Best of the Program | Guests: Steve Baker & Alex Clark | 8/15/23

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Glenn plays the hit songs that coincide with the birth year of some of our most elderly politicians. Investigative journalist Steve Baker joins to discuss what he’s seen while investigating January 6 and how the government has attempted to stop this footage from being seen. TPUSA contributor and host of “The Spillover” Alex Clark joins Glenn to explain why she believes nobody should label music and movies as “conservative.”
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I don't know if you saw the

story yesterday.

A lot of people just kind of didn't pay attention to it.

So I thought maybe

we should bring it up and maybe highlight in a different way.

There

now

20,

20 politicians in Washington that are over 80.

Wow, that's a lot, although I may have guessed higher.

So I thought we should just go and look at some of these politicians.

And I'm just going to, just to put it into context, you know, what was a song that was out when they they were a kid okay okay so chuck grassly he's 89

he was uh born uh september 17th 1933 and this was the song that was when he went away the blues walked in and met me

if he stays away a rockin' chair will get me all

they don't put rocking chair in songs no they're not enough anymore no i mean lizzo has that one yeah right but she was she's a flautist for something that starts with an F.

So that's Chuck Grassley.

When Dianne Feinstein was

born, she's 90.

The top-grossing movie was King Kong.

The original.

It's the original.

The original.

Wow.

This is.

Yeah.

By the way, 1933,

Hitler was also just appointed Chancellor of Germany.

So,

yeah.

Now, at a whopping 81 years old,

born September 8th, 1941,

was Bernie Sanders.

And Bernie

had this super, super.

Now, I love this music, though.

It's great.

It really is.

It does feel old.

A little

perspective.

Yeah, it puts it into perspective.

This is what was on the radio.

I'll explain what radio is later to the kids.

But that is Bernie Sanders.

Listening to this stuff, it's like, this is the stuff that you'd hear when

Michael J.

Fox went back to 19.

And then you're like, wait, no, that was 1955.

Yes.

That was a decade, two decades away.

Yeah.

He went back in time.

Diane Feinstein was in her mid-20s.

Mitch McConnell, this is what was playing on the radio.

So if you've ever seen the movie White Christmas,

Bingo,

that's, oh, by the way,

the Manhattan Project had just started when

Mitch McConnell was born.

Was Mitch in Oppenheimer?

Did he make an appearance in that?

I think he was Fat Man.

Okay.

Or little boy.

I don't remember.

Is it Jim

Risch?

He's a Republican in Idaho.

Here he is.

The yearly Slinky was invented.

I can't call it.

We don't have anybody young enough to be born in the year the hula hoop was invented, but slinky.

Yes.

Now, Grace Napolitano from California, this is what was happening in 1936 when she was born.

Every time it rains,

and he's from heaven.

FDR had just won his second presidential election.

He had

four total.

This was just the beginning of his second one.

Then we have Eleanor Holmes Norton.

She was born the year that Amelia Earhart disappeared.

And

this was

the radio.

We're still four years away from World War II.

We have Harold Rogers from Kentucky.

He's 85 years old.

He was

born to this music.

And the Shirley Temple film Heidi had just been released.

I'll explain, kids, what Shirley Temple is a little later.

Bill Crab

Pasquerell from New Jersey, 86 years old.

I'd like to say...

Heavenly flower.

Oh, the humanity.

Yes, he was born as the Hindenburg

was burning to the ground.

Yeah, yeah.

Maxine Waters was born with this super, super classic.

You remember the TV show The Adams Family?

Yeah.

Well, long before television was invented,

it was a comic strip.

Really?

Yes.

I didn't know that.

It was in something kids called a newspaper.

And there were the Sunday funnies or a comic strip.

And

the year Maxine Waters was born is the first comic strip of the Adams family.

Much, much, much later to be a TV show.

And then a movie.

Yes.

And

cartoons, too, right?

I believe so.

Later on, yeah.

We have Stenny Hoyer.

Not all the Stennys these days.

Now, do you recognize?

I mean, you recognize this?

This was also the year.

Don't worry about it.

This is also the year that

the Columbia Broadcasting System presents War of the Worlds with Orson Welles.

Yes, yes.

Same year

as War of the Worlds.

Stations present Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater on the Air in The War of the Worlds by H.G.

Wells.

Now, slightly, slightly younger than that is James Clyburn.

He's 83.

He was born July 21st, 1940.

when

this was out.

And you could buy a pound of bread, buy a pound of bread.

When did we sell bread by the pound?

You could buy a pound of bread for 10 cents.

But

then we have Nancy Pelosi.

She was born in 1940, so she's really kind of a spring chicken here.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

In 1940, Congress limited the work week to 40 hours.

Now,

most people would say

people work more than 40 hours.

And other people would say, what's work?

But Nancy Pelosi definitely knows.

Then Danny Davis, he is a Democrat.

Yeah.

Is this Post Malone, or who is this?

Yeah.

You want to get the best from me.

Now,

this is the year that Captain America was first penned and put in a comic book.

The Marvel movie?

No, not the movie.

No.

No, the comic book.

Okay.

Okay.

John Carter.

He's a Republican for Texas.

This is...

Now you're going to like this.

As time goes by, really.

It was...

John would remember that he was born the year General Mills introduced something called Cheerioats.

Oh, Cheerio.

I love Cheerios.

They're delicious.

And much, much, much, much, much, much, much later became Cheerio.

Cheerios.

Yeah.

I prefer the Cheerio personally.

Really?

Yeah.

This is Anna Eshu.

Her birthday, December 13th, 1942.

I gotta get

out

This is the year she was born the year FDR called for the internment of the Japanese in American concentration camps,

which she's got to be so very proud of.

Frederica Wilson, a Democrat from Florida,

she was born under

this.

And

a 12-ounce Pepsi cost five cents when she was born.

Rosa DeLoro,

she was born the year, and you're not going to find this hard to believe.

Born the year scientists discovered that LSD had psychedelic properties.

Lay that pistol down.

Yeah.

When you could sing songs about pistols.

No, it's putting the pistol down.

It's a gun control song.

You're like, you're right now.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

Virginia Fox from North Carolina, 80 years old.

1943.

She was born.

And we're now about to enter the stereophonic phase.

Ooh.

Yeah, but not yet.

Not yet.

We're still about 10 years, maybe 15 years away from stereophonic.

But

she was born the year Italy surrendered in World War II.

And then, of course, we have Kay Granger from Texas.

She was born.

Yeah.

She was born the year James Cagney won Best Actor for his performance in Yankee Doodle Dandy.

Which

is like

it's a little like Top Gun without

any kind of technology in it.

Yeah,

not a lot of planes really.

Nothing utilized.

Really, not back then.

It's interesting.

And, like, you know, part of me thinks if you're 84

and you get elected for the first time, good for you.

You know, good for you.

If you are so incredible at 84 that you just really walk in there and it's like, hey, I'm running.

And the voters say, hey, come on in.

That's wonderful.

Congratulations.

When it's re-election number 27,

it kind of becomes an issue.

And we're seeing, I don't know,

some after effects of some of these decisions.

California looking at you with Diane Feinstein right now.

Yeah.

You know what?

By the way, none of these people are boomers.

Oh, we're in silent generation?

Yeah.

Is that what it was?

Is that the one before boomers?

Silent?

Yeah, yeah.

So they weren't boomers because the war hadn't finished yet.

So baby boomers?

No.

This is the generation before

baby boomers.

Just to give you a little perspective.

Now,

look,

they tell me, I don't believe this, but they tell me that someday I'll be their age.

I mean, doctors do not agree with this analysis.

Yes, they think I'll be dead long before, but

that being said,

if I do make it, I won't be in Congress.

Right.

And I think maybe some of these really, really, really, really old people

should leave us alone.

You've had your day in the sun.

In fact, you've had more than a day in the sun.

You've had over 80 years in the sun.

And when you leave something out in the sun too long, it tends to dehydrate

and shrivel up.

Right.

And there you are.

Perhaps that's happened to many of the brains in Congress.

Yes.

So please leave Congress.

Now, I hope that this gives you a perspective of the 20 people that are running our country right now.

That does not include the executive branch.

I was going to say, yeah, Biden, we didn't even talk about.

No, no.

He's obviously on this list.

Absolutely.

But maybe, maybe that will help you understand how very, very old these

generation before the boomers really are.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Steve Baker, welcome to the program.

Good to be back, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

So I had you on, I think it was last week, and we were talking about the 12,000 hours that you have been promised your first up to view because you're working on a story for the Blaze, and you have found some pretty shocking things, but you need to verify before you even write this.

You need to verify on tape, correct?

That's correct.

It's actually 41,000 hours.

It's roughly the math is the 41,000 hours by time, 1,700 plus cameras that are available on the Capitol campus, and that would be the 24-hour day of January 6th.

That's where that 41,000-hour number comes

So they are going to court today to try to cordon off some of this tape and say you can't see it because of national security.

Is that going to prevail and will that affect you?

It's an interesting question because we have, as you know, had limited access.

There's only been five journalists given access up to this point.

The first and most public of those was Tucker Carlson's staff's access.

And And then Julie Kelly, John Solomon, Joe Hanneman from the Epoch Times, and myself are the only five up to this point that we know of who have been given that access.

And then there's been a pause button hit and we were told that the reason why this pause button was hit was because they were developing a new media guideline.

This was coming directly from Speaker McCarthy's staff.

And with this new guidelines that were going to be published, and this was supposed to be published over a month ago, and then I got a call from a staffer last week who told me very specifically he said you were first back in you you're you were the guy we know what you're working on we want this story out and you're going to be the first one back in under the new guidelines and they told me that this guidelines was going to be out last Friday well that didn't happen

and so we still haven't seen the guidelines and I'm wondering if there's not some connection to this new judicial watch file.

It's not a new judicial watch filing, by the way.

They filed this lawsuit back in February of 21, just a month after January 6th.

But the point being is that the Capitol police themselves do not want people to have access to this video.

So

that's what's coming up in court today.

That would be a decision that prevents us from getting back in.

That is a real problem.

This is the people's videotape.

This is the people's house, the people's capital.

And we're not allowed to see the videotape.

I don't buy.

It's not for

a reason that is

less than dark.

So

yesterday, we had a former Capitol Police officer on with us, and he said,

nobody knows who Julie Farnum is, and everyone should know.

Do you know her, and what can you tell us about her?

Julie Farnum was hired by the Capitol Police just October of 2020, so just three months before January 6th.

And she was brought in to basically revamp, which was what they referred to in

the January 6th committee testimony as being a failing agency or a failing division itself.

And she came from Homeland Security.

She was actually oversaw what they called their immigration vetting division.

Imagine what that was like.

Yeah.

But she did say that that was a significant intelligence position that she held, and that she was

then brought in to oversee this 12-person internal Intel Analyst Division at the Capitol Police, which she describes as an intelligent consuming division, not an Intel gathering division, whatever that means.

But I will tell you this, that there's not really anything nefarious at all.

As a matter of fact,

her testimony, even before Pelosi's J6 select committee,

is quite damning as to what was available to them.

She was very clear that they had significant intel.

In fact, they had intel that said specifically that there were going to be a large number of armed and with weapons protesters coming to the Capitol that day, that there was actual intent to actually invade the Capitol that day, and that furthermore,

there was intelligence that they intended to actually take out Congress members.

And with all of that intelligence there and reported to the January 6th Committee, this information has never been shared with the American public.

But I have the transcript of her testimony.

Holy cow.

So Farnum, she worked for Farnum, right?

In the intelligence arm of Farnham.

She worked for the Capitol Police.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah,

she would have been reporting directly to Assistant Chief Yogananda Pittman, who was the head of Capitol Police Intelligence.

Okay.

And then when she moves over to the chief of police, Pittman,

then Farnum goes where?

Farnum was with the agency for, or with the department, the Capitol Police, as their, what they call Assistant Director of Intelligence and Interagency Coordination.

So she headed up that division for about two and a half years before she went back into apparently private practice.

She's no longer with them.

She left in May of this this year.

Okay, so why would he say yesterday that we need to know her?

She sounds like a good guy.

Yeah,

I will tell you that the background that I have personally done on Farnum doesn't give me any indication that she herself had any nefarious intent, but I will tell you that, again, going back to her testimony before the select committee, that there are more clues about what

Lieutenant Johnson said in that

she absolutely called an intelligence meeting with

Upper Echelon of Capitol Police Leadership, and this was on January 4th, in which she specifically says that

both Chief Gallagher and Chief Pittman were present.

And she even says to the committee, it is my understanding that Chief Sund was not invited, quote unquote.

So who would have the power or what would the motivation be for Pittman not to pass all of this intel along?

Well, what would be the motivation?

I mean, we have to, you know, with any type of government operation, we have to start with incompetence.

We always start there.

And when we're talking about

the actual police department administrated by the largest, most incompetent government in the world, you know,

it's a fair place to start before you get into malfeasance or malevolence or anything of that sort.

But the fact that they knew, and this is very, very important for the American people to know, is not only that they have the intelligence, and it wasn't just from their own internal analysts, this intelligence of

the significant event that was coming their way was testified to by many other sources.

We know that the FBI was sharing intelligence with them.

They were receiving intelligence all the way from the New York Police Department that there was significant nefarious operators that were going to be descending on D.C.

that day.

And then, of course, we also have heard, as we heard in the Tucker Carlson-Steven Sun interview last week, that we had both the

chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Milley, as well as the

Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, wanted to shut DC down.

They wanted to cancel all of the permitted events.

And this is the other thing that Americans don't know, is that the Capitol Police themselves had issued at least six, what they call First Amendment protest permits.

for that day.

These were signed off by the Capitol Police, in which they knew that members of Congress were going to be speaking at some of those side-stage events on the Capitol property.

We're not talking about the big rally that Trump was holding at the ellipse, but these were events that were scheduled, permitted, legally so, signed off by the Capitol Police leadership.

And for some reason, none of that information was ever passed down to their

command level officers like Lieutenant Johnson.

None of that information was ever shared in their morning roll call briefings that morning.

We know from multiple testimonies, both on the record and off the record, with Capitol Police officers, frontline officers, that they knew nothing about what was coming their way that day.

We even heard those testimonies in trials.

In the first Oath Keeper trial, there was an officer by the name of Ryan Salky, and he was a brave officer.

He stood his ground on the east door.

That's where the famous Columbus doors are.

He was getting beaten, manhandled.

He was getting just drenched in all manner of pepper spray and OC spray.

And he never left his post until that door was finally breached.

And in that trial, he was asked under cross-examination if he knew about the permitted events on the Capitol grounds that day.

And he said, no.

He said, the only thing I know, and I quote from my own notes because I was there at that trial, he said, I only knew something was happening at the White House.

What conclusion do you draw?

And are we ever going to get to the

end of this?

Are we ever going to find out what really happened?

What happened to the pipe bombers?

What happened?

Where is that?

Well, exactly.

Look, Glenn, I draw the same conclusion as Tucker did in that interview last week.

This sounds like a setup.

And there's just too many missing, or there's too many elements here, too many connective tissues showing that it was for this to be just gross incompetence.

And in fact, in Farnum's

assessment, one of the last things questions that she was asked was, was this a failure leading up to January 6th?

And her answer was very simply this.

She said, I don't think it was a failure of intelligence.

I think it was a failure to operationalize the intelligence.

And of course, she would not have had the,

it was not her position to do and write the morning briefings for those officers that day.

Somebody had that information.

Obviously, it goes right up to Pittman's office, and she had a briefing with them on the 4th.

That information was shared, and for some reason, they did not disseminate that to their officers that day.

Do you know what happened with where we are on the pipe bomb?

Is that just over?

We're not looking for that.

Well,

it's still called an open investigation, which is why in recent hearings on the Hill that they won't answer questions about it, because, as you know, they always say, well, that's an open investigation.

I can't talk about it.

But I will tell you this.

We know that the pipe bombs themselves were inoperable.

They were stunt pieces.

They were never intended to go off.

They were basically diversionary tactics because the first one was found in the minutes before the first barricade breach at about 12.52 p.m.

that day.

And then the second was found just after that.

And when both of those were found, and you can hear it on the Capitol Police radio comms, which I've heard all of them.

I've heard hours and hours of their radio communications.

I've read the transcripts, that there

absolutely was chaos in that moment because now the undermanned Capitol Police, which is a whole other story in and of itself, is why a department with almost 2,000 uniformed officers that day only had a couple of hundred available on campus at the time.

And then they were

additionally diverted because those pipe bombs were found at buildings under the purview and the responsibility of the Capitol Police themselves.

It is almost like what a terrorist does when they set off a bomb and all all the first responders go there

and are distracted from what really is going on, or they're blown up at the site.

They drag them in.

I think these guys with the pipe bombs clearly were dragging the Capitol Police away, so things could get much, much worse.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

I really, really, really, really hope that one of these days

we'll realize the only expert that counts is you.

That's the one that counts.

Because look where the experts have gotten us.

Did you see the experts?

They're talking about the new song that is out.

What's that guy's name?

Oliver

Anthony?

Anthony Oliver.

Oliver Anthony, I believe.

Yeah, you have two first names.

You don't get to choose the order when you choose that problem.

All of the experts are now saying he's worthless.

He's no good.

He's just a deplorable.

Why?

And why do we care what they say?

We have Alex Clark on.

She's the host of the Spill Over from Turning Point USA.

Alex has two first names, too.

You could call her Clark.

I am.

I am.

And they're both guy names, and yet she's a woman.

Interesting.

So Clark Alex as if that is your real name welcome to the program.

How are you?

Thanks.

I'm feeling good.

I feel like America is kind of back with this song.

I'm so excited.

You like it?

I do like it.

And I was excited.

So I checked the iTunes charts this morning, Glenn, and he's not only number one on iTunes with this song, but the top 50 on iTunes right now is filled with multiple songs of his.

So because of this song, now people are going and they're streaming a ton of his songs.

So it's his song is the most viral song in the country right now.

And then Jason Aldeen's try that in a small town.

I mean, that's pretty telling about the state of America.

No, but experts will tell us that those are just four deplorables, that those are just hicks, that

this isn't saying anything except Donald Trump should be the ruler and king for the whole world forever I mean

they are dismissive this this song I think is

it cuts right to the core of how people are feeling

and they don't care they don't care

yeah well you weren't born to just pay bills and die And any genre of music, you know, especially when there is truth and there's passion and there's soul in the performer performing the song, that's going to resonate with people.

That could be said for anybody.

I mean, if you just look across history and what songs have done particularly well,

it's whatever artist has kind of captured the cultural zeitgeist of the moment.

And that is what this guy has done.

This song has tapped into the cultural zeitgeist of the silent majority.

He's talking about growing wealth disparity.

He's talking about a 1984 Orwellian government overreach.

He's talking about rampant inflation and taxes being unfair.

He's talking about people being hungry and how we have fat homeless people because all we do is feed the poor processed, low-quality, cheap food in this country, a welfare state, male depression.

This is what real people are going through.

And yet they don't seem to either hear it or care.

And I'm not sure that this guy is necessarily a conservative or a Trump supporter.

Or, you know, everybody's like, hey, he's on our side.

I don't know if he is.

I have no idea.

I know that we have tried to get him on several times, and he wants to stay away from political shows because he doesn't want to be made into just a political thing.

But everything is political now.

Everything.

Yeah, but I think that's smart for him to do.

I mean, just look at look at how Morgan Wallen has had to scrape his way back up after his near cancellation and end of his career.

I think it is a mistake for any artistic work, I think movies, music, to just be broadly and openly labeled conservative if it's just talking about culture like this.

Because I think we really need brand,

we need artists, brand new artists like Oliver.

We need movies like Sound of Freedom that are really just calling attention to common sense.

And I think that when we are very quick to call these things conservative, that alienates a lot of people in the movie, and then it prevents the message from getting out.

So, if all people see is like, oh, there's this viral song by this Oliver Anthony guy, but he's conservative.

It's a political song, like they're gonna be like, Well, I'm not gonna listen to that.

But if we're just like, hey, there's this like amazing song talking about life or whatever, it's just like very generic, then they're like, okay, I'll listen.

And then then his message is likely to really resonate.

Well, I have to tell you, that's the way I received it, and that's the way I passed it on to friends, was you got to listen to this guy.

Listen to the words of what he's saying.

I don't think he's conservative.

I mean, he might vote like a conservative.

I don't know.

But

this is an American message.

It's not like Democrats aren't suffering under Bidenomics.

It's not like they're not feeling everything

that

conservatives are feeling.

You can't tell me that they like it.

I'm sure some do, but

it's an American message for the time.

And, you know, the other is they're the ones separating themselves.

When you see the sound of freedom, that is something that should appeal to every American.

Every American.

It is the one thing that I really thought we still agreed on.

Slavery is bad.

Child exploitation is bad.

Rape is bad.

But apparently not.

You know, Disney held that movie and wouldn't release it until they were kind of had their hand forced.

Then they gave it to Angel, and Angel took it and run.

And there's no point where they say, oh, you know, I guess maybe we should have.

No.

They're releasing Snow White, where she's talking about, you know, the sexism of the story and the dwarves.

It's crazy.

Yeah, exactly.

I had the same thought that there's no way that this song could have this massive amount of success if only conservatives are listening to it and relating to it.

So you know that there are people who might be classical liberals who traditionally vote Democrat.

And I'm not talking about a leftist because that's just a whole other breed of people.

But the liberals, I'm sure that there are some that are like, you know what?

I also feel crippled, you know, by inflation right now.

My small business is struggling.

Like I relate to this guy.

And the reaction videos on YouTube, you know, people that like play the song and then they show themselves reacting to it.

The videos are men and women of all races, all shapes, all sizes.

And every single one of these people, Glenn, they're moved to tears.

They're moved to tears.

The reaction to this song being as big as it's been, I really think should give people some hope for 2024.

And I think that's a really smart decision from this guy to say, I'm not going to do any political shows.

Like, just keep speaking truth.

And, and that's how you, that's how you actually red pill people.

You don't tell them, uh, you know, you don't give a kid

like vegetables.

You, you put it in a smoothie or whatever.

You tell them they're having something else so that they'll actually eat it.

Like, that's what this guy's doing.

I think that's super smart.

What do you think of Alejandro Monteverde?

he is the guy that has

he directed um the free sound of freedom he is a he's probably one of the world's best directors that no one knows yet he i've been following him for years he's amazing um and

he was immediately they called the movie sound of freedom qannon

which

The movie was made two years before QAnon even showed up.

Where does the QAnon stuff come from?

It's just, at this point, it's just a way to use that as an excuse, I think, to shut people up and get us to stop talking about any

productive or important conversation.

I think it's the most frustrating thing for me.

I mean, as soon as that QAnon stuff started flowing around online, like, I knew this was bogus.

And I was like, I wish we would stop talking about it because I knew that this would be held against us at our throats as conservatives for the rest of time.

Like we are never escaping that crap, and it will always be held against us to invalidate any important message we have to say and say that we're just conspiracy theorists.

I have to tell you,

I know this is a conspiracy theory, but

it's a very well-run disinformation campaign.

And I don't know who started it, but boy, it sure has benefited one group of people people to discredit others and also to discredit things like pedophilia.

You know,

there's a lot of people in powerful positions, especially in Hollywood, that seem to like pedophilia.

And

it's just interesting to me that

QAnon kind of rose to prominence all about pedophilia.

Thank you so much for being

in the heck of a sentence.

It did.

It did.

I mean,

you know, look,

you're saying basically like

what exactly?

You know, obviously, because there were some high-profile criminals in Hollywood that were prosecuted for this.

Certainly Jeffrey Epstein and if I wanted to make sure that,

you know, Epstein looked like a crazy, you know, not a big story.

If I wanted to, you know, make sure I'm protecting friends in Hollywood that were pedophiles and I knew I was going to normalize pedophilia, the thing I would do is get people to laugh at pedophilia through something like

QAnon.

They're going to way to wreck your opponents, essentially.

Yeah, wreck your opponent, wreck the credibility of all that so you can go out and do what they did on Sound of Freedom and say it's not that big of a deal.

Certainly what they're doing with by promoting it all the time and talking about QAnon when I don't know anyone who believes in a lot of people.

I don't know anyone.

I don't know anybody.

I've never met a person who actually believes all the QAnon stuff, but yet is out there all the time in the media.

Sorry to interrupt.

Sorry to end the interview with that, Alex.

Yeah.

Sorry, Alex.

Thanks for being on with us.

Clark Alex

or Alex Clark, not sure.

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