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There's a few things I want to start with.

One is Hunter Biden.

The other is inflating the dollar away.

And

the fires in Hawaii.

They all, believe it or not, have the same thing in common.

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All right, so let's start with the wildfires.

It is devastating.

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They are still looking for people, at least 80 individuals.

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Now,

if you saw the drone video of this, it is

horrific.

It is just horrific.

And

some would say preventable.

Hawaii was warned.

about this for a long time.

The guy is a Clay Trauer

something like that.

So he's a German.

He moved to, you know what happens, you know what happens, Germans move, because they're like, oh, I just

was with a

guy in leather and a in a ball gag, and now I got to move for some reason.

That's what happens.

That's why Germans move.

Okay.

I didn't know that.

Well, you're Germans.

Yeah, I mean, it's weird.

It always gets weird.

It always gets weird with the Germans.

Anyway,

so this guy is a specialist in wildland fire science and management at the University of Hawaii.

He published research and tried to ring the bell several times with the Pacific Fire Exchange that said, look,

we are going to have a massive fire here because we're increasing the ignitions.

Now, in California, man increases the ignitions by doing what?

By not having controlled burns, by putting every forest fire out

and

making sure that we never have a controlled burn.

That means that all of the dead wood just falls down out of the trees, the trees are knocked down and the bushes are never wiped out.

And then naturally,

a lightning bolt will come down at some point in a storm and set that on fire.

And if it's not just a tinderbox, it burns out the underbrush.

And that's healthy for the land.

But man has decided, no no no we shouldn't go in there and take that underbrush out nor should we allow it to burn and so at some point there's just all this kindling and there's a fire strike and then the whole thing goes up that's what happens in california over and over and over again what he was talking about was people were bringing in non-native greenery, non-native grasses.

And he says the island has some not fireproof, but fire-resistant grass that is usually on the island.

They're bringing in new grasses and new trees that are not like that.

For instance, did you know the sequoias are almost fireproof?

Did you know that?

These trees are the most amazing things.

How do they last?

that long when you know there's fires all the time, right?

Naturally.

They're over a thousand years.

Some of them are 2,000 years old and they've never been brought down by a fire.

It's because their sap is a fire retardant.

So it doesn't catch on because the lifeblood of the tree puts fires out.

Isn't that crazy?

So you have fire resistant grass.

People have been bringing in this grass and bringing in new bushes.

You know, it's like people in Phoenix.

They were like, I got to go to Phoenix because my allergies are so bad, but I brought all my favorite flowers and grasses and trees.

Okay.

So he was warning and saying, this is going to go up

like a Tinderbox if we don't change our ways.

Nobody listened to him.

All right.

This is,

may I just say, this story, the Hunter Biden story, even the inflationary story, the banking story, pretty much all stories have this one thing in common.

People are warned, this isn't going to go well,

and then nobody does anything about it because the press doesn't pick it up, doesn't it?

It has a different agenda, politicians have a different agenda, and so who suffers the consequence?

You do.

And then you're left in the smoldering rubble, and everybody else is bailed out and then they blame it on global warming.

I mean, it's the same story over and over again.

What are they going to blame our economy on?

Global warming.

What will they blame, you know, the heat on?

Global warming.

What will they blame the cool on?

Global climate change.

I mean, it's everything that goes wrong.

It's global warming.

You know, racism?

Global warming.

And you know that's true.

They have actually said that over and over and over again.

So we have got to find a way to break the pattern and start listening to the warnings.

Listen to the warnings that are real.

Hey, here's something man is doing that's harming the planet.

And that makes sense.

Don't bring the stuff with you.

Just, can you not just enjoy it for what it is?

All right, so anyway,

let's go to Washington now.

Oh, boy.

So we have now a

special investigator, a special counsel.

Except he's not so special.

It's David Weiss.

Who's David Weiss?

The guy who just did the sweetheart deal.

Well, wait a minute.

Special counsel is not supposed to be the guy who's already been doing the investigation in the government.

It's a special counsel, somebody that comes from outside the government and then starts looking at what all of the other people have collected.

He's supposed to be somebody that's not connected to this at all.

This is the guy who made the sweetheart deal.

This is the guy who said, yeah, you know what?

We're not going to look there.

I tell you what, let's hold off.

What time to the statue of limitations?

Right.

Now they've expired.

All right, you can look into it now.

That's that guy.

Hmm.

Very strange.

It seems as I mean, at the very least, it's a free pass to not have to testify to the House.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, so usually a special counsel would not have to go and testify to the house.

Now he's sort of in that protected status.

So the planned testimony that was supposed to happen here in September or October is now not going to happen, most likely.

Unless the Democrats or the Republicans stand up and say, enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

Is that enough to do?

Can they force?

I don't know.

I honestly don't know.

I don't know why they enforce the law.

I don't know.

Is that the law?

Yeah, it is.

So they can require him to come, even if he's a special counsel.

No, no, no.

I'm saying,

let me see if I can find the report here.

I am saying that the law is that he has to be an outside of the government council.

That's the way it works.

Is it outside of the federal government?

Is how they're getting away with that essentially?

Yeah.

Because he's not, he, he is, he's from Delaware.

Trump appointed, by the way.

That's the people keep bringing that up.

Yeah, but it's a little swishy.

Yeah, it's a little squishy on that.

But still, it is a, it's a point.

Like, and I will say, like, looking back at it, I tried to track this down a little bit this weekend and I didn't spend a ton of time, so maybe I'm missing something on this.

But

the, the appearance that we got that this was a get out of jail free card for everything,

we all got that impression, right?

This was a deal.

All it dealt with was the gun charges and the income tax charges.

But what it meant was it's a free pass for everybody.

Like you just get off with that.

And then they went to court and the court asked Hunter Biden, what do you think this is?

And he's like, well, this is it.

All my charges are now clear, and this whole period of my life is now, you know, I'm get out of jail free for that.

And then they asked the government, and they said, what do you think it is?

And he said, no, actually, it's just for these two charges.

And this is ongoing.

The only reason we really have the impression it was a get out of jail card for everything is Hunter Biden's attorneys.

Right?

Like, I can't find a place where the government said this was a get out of jail card.

They actually did say, they actually did say the opposite.

Hunters, when in court, the hunter said,

yeah, this is a, you know, his attorneys, yeah, let's get out of jail.

And the attorney said, well, no, not exactly.

That's what I'm saying, though.

That's the only thing I've seen.

So my impression of this being a get out of jail free card from the moment that deal was made is at least mostly based on Hunter Biden's attorneys saying it, which, of course, Hunter Biden's attorneys are going to say that.

Why not?

Why wouldn't you say it?

And the media ate that up and reported it as if it was fact.

But I can't find a point where the government is saying.

I think maybe David Weiss isn't so bad.

I'm trying to say, like, maybe this is the only way I can come up with it.

And I think there are holes in this theory because of what you were talking about with like delaying and how long this has taken and how they've been able to lock it down.

But is it possible that Weiss didn't actually cut this sweetheart deal?

He just gave him the deal, which I think you could still describe as sweetheart on just these two pieces of the investigation, right?

Like you could say, just, like, for example, the gun charges, they basically shrugged their shoulders and said nothing was going to happen, right?

Okay, just don't do anything bad for a few years and you're fine on the gun charges.

The taxes, he paid him back, there's a slap on the wrist, but that was it.

And I think you can describe that as a sweetheart deal on just those two things.

But it's a ridiculous deal if it encompasses everything.

The only people we're getting that evidence from seems to be Under Biden's attorneys, which obviously I don't trust at all.

So I don't know, maybe there's an argument that he's not as bad.

So I'm just trying to look for the positive.

I know you're looking for the positive.

If we get past this,

this is the actual U.S.

code: an individual named as special counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decision-making.

All right, we don't

argue that.

Okay, sure.

With the appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably,

expediously, and thoroughly, and that the investigative and

prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of criminal law and the Department of Justice policies.

I don't think you got a problem with that one.

The special counsel shall be selected from outside the United States government.

Special counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as special counsels shall take first precedence in their professional lives and that it may be necessary to devote their full time, full-time life to the investigation, depending on its

complexity and the state of the investigation.

So

it says right in the code, shall be from outside the United States government.

Now, I guess their out would be the United States government refers to the federal government, right?

And Weiss is not part of the federal government.

He's part of the government of Delaware, right?

I guess that's their out.

Well,

he's a federal attorney.

He's the U.S.

attorney.

And he was appointed by the U.S.

government.

Right.

He's appointed.

That's part of the U.S.

attorney.

He works for the Justice Department in Delaware.

So I would, right.

I would think that's a part of the U.S.

government.

Yeah.

That's how I would count it.

Why else would you be called a U.S.

attorney?

Yeah.

You're an attorney for the U.S.

government.

You don't get your paycheck from the U.S.

government?

Right.

Is that why?

Right.

I mean, this seems to be, there doesn't seem to be a legitimate out here.

That seems to be what they're arguing.

Correct.

But I think that's what.

And if

the Republicans do not hold this, I mean, this is black and white.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no.

It may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.

So he's coming in.

This is saying we're going to appoint a special counsel that comes in, and then depending on where it is,

he may have to devote devote his full-time job to this.

So

why didn't the government

because

I think I'm with the argument that Weiss is not good at this.

He's not the right guy.

I think that's where I am.

But my question is, why didn't...

You didn't think it would be a hard sell.

Well, it doesn't sound like a hard sell.

You are trying to give him benefit of the doubt.

I'm theorizing here.

I'm looking for sunshine, and I'm admittedly reaching a little bit because I don't, it's so hard to understand how this can even happen in our country.

But I guess another piece of the evidence that keeps hanging me up is why didn't they just say, yes, it is a get out of jail free card for all this stuff.

We've looked all into it and it's over.

Why, why, why would the government in the court step up and say, no, the investigation is still ongoing?

Why wouldn't they just say, we looked into it and we didn't find anything?

Right?

Like, why wouldn't they just say that?

That it was over.

Like, we were at the end of this, and the government is the one that stopped it.

Maybe because they knew, if asked, I think they were trying to get it past her.

They're just trying to just

get a push to know.

If you ask, I got to tell you the truth.

Right.

But like, if that was the truth, and Hunter Biden's people were, they had this little behind-the-scenes arrangement.

Look, we're going to get you through here.

Why were Hunter Biden's attorneys going to the media and telling them this was an all-encompassing deal?

They should have been hiding it.

Yeah, I don't know.

That doesn't make any sense.

There's something weird here, I guess, is where I keep landing on this.

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We also have

one of the former officers that talked to Hunter Biden first.

He was, I think, a sergeant at Capitol Police on January 6th.

He said a lot of stuff, but he was hoping, see if this sounds familiar.

He thought if he would say just what he felt would not get him fired, that somebody would would pick up the ball and do some investigating and investigative reporting and would expose it all.

And

that didn't happen.

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we have Senator Ron Johnson on with us in just a minute.

He's talking about event 201 predicting COVID-19.

Did you see that story last week?

Gosh.

I mean, it's so bizarre to even hear this stuff.

They're trying to fire this up again where they're like, oh, the new variant, this is what it looks like.

And this is what I can't really believe they're trying to do.

Still in this, like, what?

Shut up.

Why?

Like, you know, we have come to that point where it is something we're all just going to, we probably will probably get COVID this year, maybe at some point.

And there's not much you're going to be able to do about it.

And you'll probably be sick and then recover.

And that's going to be the end of the story.

Just like all the other illnesses, the boring ones we used to have, that's where we are, America.

We don't need to be panicked about this 24 hours a day.

They're actually talking.

I heard somebody last week actually say, you know, America should mask up again.

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Senator Ron Johnson is with us now.

There's a couple of things I want to talk to him about.

First, I guess I want to start, Senator,

with the

special counsel that has been named last Friday.

This guy works as the U.S.

Attorney, which is then an official member of the Justice Department, and that makes him a government employee, which according to the code, you cannot, you have to hire somebody who is outside of the government.

What's happening?

Well, even more important than that, Glenn, is you need to have somebody who's independent.

Yes.

And

I can't think of another human being on earth who's less independent than David Weiss right now.

I mean, he's the guy that was in charge of engineering that sleazy, and that's what it was.

It was sleazy plea agreement, trying to pull the wool over the judge's eyes there.

Didn't get away with it.

We had a whistleblower say that David Weiss's office did not have the resource to do a proper investigation.

He's the guy that allowed the statute of limitations to expire on more serious tax charges.

This is a horrible miscarriage of justice here, but that's what we can expect from a lawless administration like the Biden administration.

Right.

So can't you guys hold the Justice Department

to the line here?

This is not just an opinion that he's bad.

He is not qualified according to the statute.

It must be an outside of government employee.

You've got to call somebody from the outside.

Unfortunately, in the Senate, we have Democrat chairmen who have no interest in looking at this at all.

In the House, I think they can.

I mean, you can start an impeachment inquiry, which would hopefully open up and give you access to more information to haul these people in front of Congress.

And first of all, find out who is lying between Merritt Garland and David Weiss.

That's one of the things.

These agencies have just insulated themselves from congressional oversight, from public scrutiny.

I would argue from management of Republican president, for example, a lot of the

obstruction of this investigation occurred under the Trump Department of Justice, which just shows you how infiltrated leftist partisans are in the Justice Department.

As a Republican president, how do you even gain control over this?

Certainly, President Trump didn't.

Yeah, you don't,

unless you know what it is and you go in and fire everybody.

And I think you can do that, but it's a constitutional question, I think.

Senator,

I want to also talk to you about something that we've been on for a couple of years.

And I saw you bring it up here recently, or at least it was reported on you bringing it up.

And I wanted to get your thoughts on this.

And that is, you said last week, this COVID was all pre-planned by an elite group of people, Event 201.

This is very concerning in terms of what continues to be planned for our loss of freedom.

We're up against a very powerful group of people.

Well, what Marie and I were talking about was the censorship and the sabotage of really treatment.

The doctors I've been working with for a few years now believe that hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives because they didn't have access to these generic drugs that worked.

Yes.

And I believe the response to COVID was all pre-planned.

One of the examples was Event 201.

Now, listen, in the age of CRISPR and gene editing, gene splicing, it makes sense for people to do simulations.

I was chairman of Homeland Security.

I held hearings on the Blue Ribbon.

biodefense panel you know in terms of bio threat i mean it makes sense to do that right but at the same time in the age of CRISPR and gene editing, it makes sense to leave open the possibility that this might have been a man-made virus.

And of course, Anthony Fauci covered that up famously in his end of January, early February 2020 email exchanges and telephone conversations where they had to turn that into a conspiracy theory,

a man-made.

origin of this.

So, no, there is so much corruption here.

There's so many odd things that point.

Again,

I don't ignore the possibility of this being certainly man-made and possibly even released.

We just don't know.

I don't think we'll ever get the evidence because Fauci did such a good job of covering this up and allowing people time to destroy the evidence.

But to me, this has been pretty obvious.

This was a man-made virus.

It is so unique.

And

certainly the censorship,

their desire to have a universal vaccine program and Rick Bright and Fauci Fauci talked about that in October 2019

seven days before the event 2001 they were bemoaning the fact that we don't have a universal vaccine program and Rick Bright even talked about you know mRNA vaccines during that process so to me it never made sense that they sabotage early treatment

you know you had false completely fraudulent studies published in the Lancet, for example, and then retracted after two weeks, but by then it had done its damage on tritroxychloroquine.

I held hearings with people like like Dr.

Corey.

Those people were savaged, even though they have evidence that stuff works anecdotally.

I've referred so many people to doctors who had the courage and compassion to treat and it worked.

And even Maria admitted that.

She got COVID, took ivermectin within a day, she was well.

I heard similar remarkable recoveries that way.

So again, the response was certainly pre-planned.

You know, COVID is a pandemic.

I think they always were looking for something they could turn into a major worldwide event where they could start controlling our lives.

I mean, I think that's just obvious in terms of how they handled this.

We didn't follow the general prescriptions of what you do with a respiratory virus.

We just didn't follow any of those.

You don't shut down the economy.

That was the first signal

together with the sabotaging of early treatment.

So, again, there's just so many things.

Anthony Fauci predicting in early 2017 that Trump was going to be, no doubt, face surprise of infection, disease outbreak.

Again,

they were just waiting, just waiting.

And of course, the last person in the world, if you knew anything about Anthony Fauci, he'd be the last person in the world you'd put in charge of a response to the pandemic.

Way too compromised, way too corrupt.

So

let me go here first.

Let me separate the two.

You're not saying that

COVID as a disease was planned.

It might

have been made by man.

I think it probably escaped the lab in wuhan um and i think and i well i know that they knew once it broke out they knew what it was and they knew that they were working on it it was a cover-up um you're saying the response was planned it was just waiting for the right thing to happen

yeah precisely and yeah again i i think it's pretty obvious that this is a man-made chimeric virus.

I mean, it's been obvious for a very long period of time.

But again, those who were involved in it, that's the last thing they could ever admit to.

I mean, Anthony Fauci funded this.

People like Ralph Barrick were working on this for years.

They were patenting things.

The fact they had the basic patents on the mRNA vaccine immediately.

And even though Fauci was saying in that Milken Institute, it would take 10 years to fully test this stuff.

All of a sudden, this thing is supposedly tested well enough within

12 months for sure.

This is absurd.

And then the denial of the vaccine injuries, the ignoring of their safety surveillance system, VAYERS.

When I first started talking about that, again, I was totally vilified in the media for spreading misinformation.

Right now, Glenn, we are up over 35,000 deaths globally.

And that's just what's been reported.

And we know the doctors are discouraged, threatened if they report these things on VAERS.

Over a million and a half adverse events.

And by the way, of those 35,000 deaths, 25% of those are occurring, or 24% are occurring within day 0, 1 or 2 of vaccination.

Veyers may not prove causation, but that correlation sure is concerning.

Why isn't it concerning our health officials?

So again, there's so many things that don't make sense coming from the narrative of the mainstream media of what I call the COVID cartel, the administration, the federal health agencies, big pharma.

you know, corrupt big pharma who've corrupted the agencies as well as our media.

So, Senator, I'm concerned about one thing, and you'll understand the tie-in to this here in a second, but I'm very concerned that there are people on the left and the right.

We are in the middle of bottom-up, top-down, inside-out.

It is

where the streets are just absolutely unruly.

Nobody feels safe.

Nobody feels there's justice.

The economy is starting to go to crap.

And people rise up and say, we need somebody to stop this.

And the top comes down with their solution, turns everything inside out, and you're over.

And the right, some people on the right now are calling for an unrestrained executive, which scares the hell out of me.

But we have, if we look at just what has happened, RussiaGate, we know started with Hillary Clinton and our

intelligence agencies and our corrupt Justice Department.

They were all in on it.

They knew it.

The impeachment was really Biden and Ukraine.

The Trump impeachment was to cover those tracks, I believe, all

lies that the Justice Department and the Congress knew.

COVID, Event 201, Fauci, EcoHealth.

Then you have January 6th, which I'm sorry, there's something really wrong there as well.

And the Hunter Biden laptops and everything else.

How do you stop this?

Because nobody seems to get punished for any of it.

Well, it's very difficult.

Just Just real quick on COVID, the problem we have with COVID is so many people pushed the vaccines.

So many people were willing to ignore the vaccine injuries.

Nobody wants to admit they were wrong.

I mean, people who took the vaccine, they don't want to delve into the fact that you maybe got a ticking time bomb there circulating through your body, or maybe you just dodged a bullet and other people weren't quite so lucky.

So we've got a society.

that doesn't want to admit there's wrong.

And unfortunately, the COVID cartel has the, they can't afford to be proven wrong and they have the power to make it almost impossible to prove them wrong.

Remember, CIOs, they're the folks that came up with the term conspiracy theorists to marginalize anybody who starts telling the truth.

So, no, it's very difficult.

Glenn, the only thing, the only way to combat this is by exposing the truth.

And it's very difficult.

I mean, Congress, we are vastly outmanned.

I mean, you've got tens, hundreds of thousands of people in these agencies.

Now, I've got five staff members on my permanent subcommittee investigation staff.

Five.

Okay.

And by the way, the Senate isn't interested in giving me any more funding.

My own Republican colleagues won't give me more funding.

Okay, so we got a real problem.

And

as I said, these agencies have insulated themselves from congressional oversight, from public scrutiny, from management of Republican administration like the Trump administration.

We have a problem.

We've got Americans we need Americans to open up their their eyes, to pull their heads out of the sand, and realize what is happening to our country.

Because part of the problem is people don't want to believe this.

They don't want to believe that government or people in government can be so malign in their actions that they'd be willing to just boldface lie to us in something that impacts our life and our health.

But unfortunately, that is what has happened, and people need to understand that.

But again, people like you, people like me that are trying to convey the truth, we just get vilified.

And again, we get called conspiracy theorists as a way to marginalize

our exposure to the truth.

Well, I don't care what anybody calls me, and I doubt that you do either, but it does make things more difficult.

I appreciate it.

I wanted to get you on because

I wanted to hear what you were actually saying and compliment you for having the balls to say it because you did open yourself up to all kinds of stuff.

So keep saying it, Senator.

Keep saying it.

You too.

God bless you.

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We're talking about David Weiss this hour and how this really,

hmm, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Now, I have heard another theory on the special prosecutor being David Weiss, and that is he is still under the control of Merrick Garland, which we say, well, Merrick Garland is in bed with Joe Biden.

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That's fascinating.

Yeah, and maybe that's the leverage they have to get Joe Biden not to run again.

Right.

Like, they get to that point where the polls are looking bad and they need a change.

And Joe says, no, I'm not leaving.

I'm going to be the nominee.

Yeah, I think you are going to leave.

Yeah.

Otherwise, we're going to open up because we know what was really going on, Joe.

It's very house of cards, but like, it's the only thing that makes any sense, right?

Like,

it's the only theory I've heard that makes everything come together.

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It's important to understand sometimes that just because it sounds, it's an all-encompassing explanation does not make it accurate.

However, it is really interesting that they want to have something to hold over their heads.

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There was a U.S.

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You might remember him because he talked to Tucker Carlson months ago.

He was suspended for wearing a MAGA hat on January 6th, but the reason why he wore that MAGA hat was to be able to help other police officers.

Somebody gave him the

MAGA hat.

He put it on his head so he could get through the crowd and they would let him through the crowd.

It was a brilliant, brilliant move.

Well, he was suspended for doing that,

but he has quite the story to tell.

He said that he was hoping that when he was on Tucker Carlson, that somebody would pick up the baton and actually be curious and they would start investigating and find what he knew.

He said now he regrets not saying everything

because he was suspended anyway and nobody picked up.

So he's going to fill in the blanks of the story.

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Tarek Johnson, welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Glenn, thank you for having me today.

I appreciate it very much.

You bet.

I have a few things that

I want to play that came from another

interview with Tucker Carlson and came out last week.

It is the former police chief.

And I want to play this before we get into

our interview here, cut four.

It turns out that she was given some type of a secret leave so she could leave, start her job on February 1st as the chief of police and not retire from the Capitol Police for months later.

Oh, so you should get the benefits.

Yeah, think about that.

Yeah.

It appears to be against departmental policy.

You know, and nobody allegedly was told.

What you're saying is that the head of intelligence for the Capitol Police, which demonstrably didn't have the intelligence it needed to protect the building, that person was first elevated to acting chief.

of Capitol Police and then given a very high-paying job right across Nancy Pelosi's district at the University of California, Berkeley.

That is correct.

And I will say that.

So that looks like like a reward to me.

Well, I do know that the unit had significant intelligence, and I know many people within the unit were pushing that intelligence up to the leadership of the unit.

So I do know that.

Many of them became whistleblowers, and many of them were punished and forced to resign.

Yep.

This looks like a scam.

I mean,

it just gets more convoluted.

You know, I do.

I feel so bad for the men and women in the police department, what they went through.

I feel so bad for the the intelligence analysts and what they went through.

Many of them, you know,

it was really, really bad.

I feel bad for the officials that were either demoted, forced to resign over this,

forced to retire early.

There's a lot of people that need someone, I think an outside entity

needs to come in and do some investigation.

That's not good.

And to build on this story,

Tarek joins us.

So you spoke to Hunter, and you said you didn't tell him everything.

What didn't you say?

Basically, what I did was I just gave some of the facts, and I was hoping that those facts would lead to a thorough investigation into Yogananda Pittman's actions before, during, and after January 6th.

And unfortunately, that did not happen.

So you're talking about the same person that the police chief chief is talking about there.

Absolutely.

And

what exactly was her role?

She was in charge of Intel.

And when I say she was in charge of Intel, she was in charge of the intelligence on January 6th and anybody that worked in the intelligence division.

She was in charge of it all.

And

her job was to get that information and she was supposed to give that to, at the very least, two people.

She was supposed to give that information to Stephen Sund, and she was supposed to give that information to Chad Thomas.

He was the former, he is a former assistant chief of the Capitol Police, and his role on the day was he was in charge of operations, which had been the bureau in charge of getting the officers ready for what they were going to face on January 6th.

And she did not do that.

So, when we found out that the FBI knew about this, the Justice department knew about this uh nancy pelosi knew about this in advance it was

we can't necessarily blame the police for not knowing it because it would have only come through her

now um if you let me walk you through i'm gonna need a couple minutes to walk you through this um

now i've been trying to get the um I would say the entire country to see Yogananda Pittman's significance in what occurred on January 6th.

And it's almost the same as the few people that were trying to explain to other people that the world was actually round and that flat.

So this is what I'm trying to get the country to see that the world is round and not flat.

Now,

a lot of people,

they want to focus on Nancy Pelosi, but you can talk about Nancy Pelosi.

you can talk about Joe Biden.

Neither one of those people could have occurred or could have made January 6th happen.

The only way January 6th can happen, you would have to get the consent and permission from Yogananda Pittman.

She is that pivotal.

Now let me explain to you why.

And I'm going to do it.

I'm going to use an analogy to break it down and make it a little bit more easy.

If you want to follow me.

Yeah, I am.

Let me know whenever you're ready.

I'm ready.

I got a pencil ready to go.

Okay.

So let's say that you have a grocery store.

And

that grocery store, you have three different heads that work in the grocery store.

You have the overall manager.

You have the operations manager.

This person would be in charge of like the grocery store, employee, security around the grocery store.

And you would have the loss prevention manager.

That person obviously would be.

in charge of you know any thefts that occurred

of things that would be in the store so let's say that

I'm gonna give these people names I'm gonna just make names up randomly

let's say the

the loss prevention manager was let's just say Pittman

let's say that the operations manager

let's give him the name of Thomas and let's call the overall manager let's call him let me think of a good name let's call him Sunday

so now

Sund is getting information and there's information out there in the community that the store is going to be, is going to get robbed of all of the

all of the Twinkies, all of the steaks, the lamb chops, everything.

Somebody's going to come in there and they're going to take all the lamb chops.

So now, you're going to go to the loss prevention manager, and you're going to ask that manager, hey, what are you getting?

And the loss prevention manager is saying, listen, I'm not getting anything, right?

So now,

Son, who is the store manager, he has to go get assistance from the local police department so he goes to police department he says hey guys I need some some assistance I need some patrols I have a security guy the guy with the the white car with the orange overhead over top of that who drives around the store at night but I need more than that I need police officers that's gonna be doing around the clock drive-bys by my store and the police chief of the local department says um mr son i understand what you want he says but um what intelligence are you getting he says, well, I'm getting this, this, and this.

And the police chief says, sir, I'm sorry, sir, the intelligence doesn't support it.

So now, let's say that the loss prevention person, that's the name I gave to Pittman,

has a report that says, well,

there's going to be a guy coming to the store around 8 o'clock in the morning.

He's going to be bringing four

of those big giant trucks that they normally deliver food in.

They're going to break into the store with about 10 guys, and they're going to take all the food out

so

now she has this report, but she either sits on this report or she downplays the report to the chief.

So the chief, I'm sorry, to the store manager.

So the store manager can't get the resources from the police department because the intelligence doesn't support it.

That's what happened on January 6th.

And to explain to you the significance of Yogananda Pittman.

So let's say that for argument's sake, and I'm not saying that this is the case, but Pelosi wanted this to happen.

Let's say Biden wanted this to happen.

And they call Yogananda Pittman and they say, listen, I'm going to order you not to give Chief Son any information related to January 6th.

You're not going to give him any information

that would support the National Guard.

You're going to downplay anything that's major because we need something to happen on January 6th.

And I'm not saying either one of them did that.

I'm just saying that I know I've heard in the atmosphere that I hear Nancy Pelosi's name a lot.

But now,

I know the position of the Speaker of the House and the line of succession that she's in to the presidency.

She's second in line.

If something happens to the vice president and the president, she would then become president.

So she's a very powerful person.

But understand this.

Even though she's powerful in her own arena, Yogananda Pittman was the most powerful person in her own arena.

So Pittman couldn't just call her and say, don't give any information to Chief Son because she could say, absolutely, not going to give chief son everything he needs and um to to do a good job and make sure that the capital is adequately prepared on january 6th nobody can make yo ilanda pitman not do that so this is the now this is what i haven't said and i'm going to have to say it now now

because i just try to give the facts but sometimes you have to because and then when you go off and you tell people what you think then they try to call you a conspiracy theorist but right um but sometimes you have to tell people what you think and then let them make a decision if they believe it's valid or not.

So

obviously it was to me in my position,

something or somebody made Yogananda Pittman feel that if she sat on or either downplayed the intelligence given to Chief Son

about January 6th and something were to happen, Chief Sun would take full responsibility for it, which he would because he is the actual chief of police.

And then Yogananda Pittman would become the chief.

That's what I believe would occurred on January 6th.

And if you look at the report,

now I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but it's 21 TD 159.

And it basically

laid out what was going to occur on January 6th.

And even if you could try to make the argument when you go back to the store, well, you could say the intelligence said it was going to be four trucks.

that the person brought when he broke in and they were going to take everything but this person only brought three trucks and he took 70% of what was available in the store.

So she's going to you're going to try to downplay it to make it seem like you didn't have the intelligence when you actually did have the intelligence.

So

so I say all that to say January 6th cannot happen without her permission.

It cannot is impossible.

She is the alpha and omega of what occurred on January 6th, and the world needs to know that.

No one

can stop Yogania Pittman from sending Chief Son the information he needed to get the support he needed from the National Guard.

She can sit on it, she can downplay it, and that's what I believe she did on January 6th, at the very least, leading up to January 6th.

And not that you're saying this at all, and nor am I, because I don't have any facts.

I just have

indications that she was rewarded with a job in Nancy Pelosi's district, a very high-level job.

She became

the Capitol Police chief.

It was her failure.

She was promoted, and then she was allowed to take this job while still getting benefits from Capitol Police,

which is against the rules.

Somebody had to make that happen.

And it may have been Nancy Pelosi, but somebody

made made that happen.

So that looks very suspicious as well, correct?

100%.

But let me even go back, even before that.

Let's go back before she left the department.

Well, she didn't really leave the department until June,

but Manger told everybody, and that's

J.

Thomas Manger, who is the current chief of the Capitol Police, he told everybody.

I think it was called a, we put out like upfronts.

And that's like basically an announcement to the department that,

you know any news.

And the news that he gave was that she was leaving the department back in February.

I think he put that out in November, but anyway, of 2022.

But anyway,

let's go back.

So, Yogananda Pittman was the chief on January the 8th.

She was made acting chief on January the 8th after her chief son was fired.

And she was the chief, acting chief until I believe it was July 23rd.

And then Manger took over on July 24th of 2021.

So she was the acting chief

from that time from January to July.

So when Manger takes over, the first thing, one of his first actions is when he took over as when he took over as the chief from Yogananda Pittman.

Do you know what he did?

No.

Okay, he made,

he put Yogananda Pittman back in charge of intelligence.

Now, why do you do that?

Why would he do something like that?

He did it to send a message to any officer that was going to try to speak against Yogananda Pittman to let them know that even though she messed up, because everybody in the world knows she messed up,

that it doesn't matter what she did.

This is Yogananda Pittman.

She's going to be your boss again.

So the people who in Intel who went and reported her,

she became their boss again.

So what do you think?

That the people that that the whistleblowers are thinking when you put her back in charge of them.

That's why you did it.

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We're talking to Tarek Johnson.

He is the former U.S.

Capitol Police Lieutenant.

He was policing on January 6th.

You might remember him.

He was on with Tucker Carlson, and he didn't say what he just said.

And why didn't you say that then,

Tarek?

I thought about it leading up to the days when I knew I would be taping for his show.

Now, I had a,

I had feelings and I had, and I was in thoughts, and i was thinking to myself and i went back and forth went back and forth um i don't want tucker carson to think i'm crazy and if i tell him you know all the the backstories about what occurred on january 6th um leading up to it on january 6th after january 6th i said that this man is going to think that i'm a conspiracy theorist so i didn't want to you know i didn't want to um try to bury myself and bury the story before he aired it isn't it weird though that i just gave him the facts some of the some of the facts.

Isn't it weird, though, that you would be called a conspiracy theorist and probably on the side of Donald Trump when you voted for Joe Biden?

Did you not?

I did.

Now,

I did vote for Joe Biden.

Now,

I voted for Donald Trump, though, in

2016, originally.

And the only reason why I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2020 was because the way I am, I am a person,

I believe, like the unity in our country is a huge deal to me.

Yeah.

Like, it means like more like my politics lean right, no question.

Absolutely lean right.

But I just want unity.

That was it.

And I didn't know if Donald Trump could do it in 2020.

That was the only reason why I didn't vote for him in 2020.

You don't have to justify it.

No, no, no.

I'm just saying.

I just wanted it out there because I know a lot of people question me, you know, and I don't know if Biden can create unity in our country, but I figure figured maybe he has the best shot.

So that's why.

But getting back to what you said, yes,

you know, and not based on a conspiracy theorist, based on my

knowledge,

on my who I voted for, I thought he was going to think I was a conspiracy theorist because of what I was saying.

Because what I was saying was

a conspiracy.

Okay, so hang on just a sec.

I've got to take another break.

Let me come back because I want to know how you know this stuff.

And

are we going to be able to prove any of this?

How can we prove this?

What should be done next?

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Target Johnson joins us.

He is former U.S.

Capitol Police Lieutenant.

And let me just recap where we were if you're just coming in.

He gave an analogy of a grocery store.

What happened on January 6th is like a grocery store.

You have two people.

You have the chief of intelligence and you have the head of the store, okay?

And the store manager runs all of the operations and everything.

You have this theft prevention person that is in charge of anything that goes down and is looking for intelligence all the time on somebody's going to come in, steal, you know, you got a gang coming in.

And their job is to know what's happening security-wise.

And they get briefings all the time.

So the store manager is starting to hear that where I hear rumblings that something is coming and goes to the security, the theft manager, the theft management person, and says,

are you hearing this?

Because this is what I'm hearing.

And they say, no.

Even though they have heard that and have good intelligence on it, they for some reason say no.

Then

the head of the store or the chief of police then goes and reaches out for help.

So the store manager goes out to the police and said, hey, we're going to need help.

I'd like some people to

patrol the area and watch over the store

because something is coming.

The police chief then says, well, what does your theft prevention person say?

Well, she said there wasn't anything.

The chief of police then reaches out to her and says,

do you have anything on this?

No, no, I don't.

Even though she does.

No, I don't.

The store manager is left going, okay, well, I must be wrong, and I can't get any help, so I'll just sit here.

And he does nothing, but it is the theft prevention person

that knew that something was happening and sat on it for some unknown reason.

Now, that reason could be, I don't know, she hates the store, or she is in with the burglars, or she has some other reason that we don't know, but we know she sat on the information.

That's what happened on January 6th.

Tariq, the name of the woman who was the theft prevention in this scenario is uh pittman right yes

and the other piece of the information is on you know not connected to this we don't have evidence not connected to this as soon as it happens the store manager he's fired and blamed

and the theft manager person

is moved in to his job.

Yes, and she also fires the operations manager too, because that operations manager would have been her direct competition to get in the chief's job or the manager's job.

So she fires him too.

So everybody who is working at the store theft management with this individual,

they start blowing the whistle.

And they say, hey, hey, hey, there's a problem here.

She had the information.

And those people are whistleblowers.

And then

when the new guy comes into town she goes back to the theft prevention and clears out all of that stuff correct correct that's bad very very bad it's horrible um and um like you said before

you before we went to break you said um what can we do well i want to know first how do you know this

I have

a lot of people

that I'm still connected to within the Capitol Police and outside the Capitol Police, and they call me and they give me information with regularity.

So I have a ton of information.

This is the thing, though, Glenn.

We don't have,

we don't have any proper whistleblower protection.

So

people can't really come out and speak because if they do, they will get destroyed.

Well, wait a minute.

How come you can't

reach out to somebody like Jim Jordan at

at the Capitol?

Do you not trust the Republican, at least, leadership or those who are looking at the weaponization of government?

I think it's hard to put that on them to investigate

something like this.

But I guess the easy answer for me to say is I don't know.

And I'll tell you that when I say I don't know, I've been,

I reached out because I was a whistleblower.

So on January the 9th, I called Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

And that's somebody that you knew, you worked with him, right?

Yes, I did.

So because

I'm a longtime Capitol Police official at that time, I was.

So I knew never to call the IG.

Why, why, why?

Because the IG is going to go back and tell the chief everything.

So you can't go try to tell on somebody

and then they're going to go tell on on you that you tried to tell on him.

That's what calling the IG would have done.

So I knew never to call the IG.

I was told that multiple times.

I was told a lot of other places not to go, but nobody could really tell me who you go to.

So I just rolled the dice and took it on my own, and I called the senator.

Now, I'm not blaming Senator Leahy for anything.

All I know is that I called him, I told him that Pittman did all this, because I believe in full, and I believe it can easily be proven that Pittman did this to our country country almost in whole primarily and we can prove it but we have to do a real investigation and to do that you have to find some kind of a way to protect the whistleblowers

okay

I have a couple of people in Washington that I trust would you be willing to talk to them if I line it up for you yes

100% okay

there's there's very few people i trust in washington but i know a couple that i think would uh be willing to um

at least help you find the right trustworthy person to go to if it is not them so you you did all the right things and then you were suspended

and uh

Then

you were suspended for 17 months and then you came back, right?

And you had four days of retraining.

So

what happened?

So I knew I wasn't going to come back.

All I wanted to do was process back in.

So and then the way that it works on the Capitol Police, they gave me one of my punishments was a 15-day unpaid suspension.

So when they told me to come back, I was on paid suspension the 17 months that I was out.

So now I wanted, I didn't want to come back at all, but I wanted to process back in, fulfill my 15 days of unpaid suspension so they can't say I didn't leave in good standing.

Because had I left before serving the suspension, they would have said I didn't leave in good standing and they wouldn't award me my good standing card and letter.

Because you have to get your good standing card and letter and it makes it easier to transverse to a new federal agency or another law enforcement agency.

And I got that.

So do you think, hang on just a second, I know you have another job and I don't want to talk about where you are.

I don't want any more trouble for you.

But

did you really think you could get back into law enforcement with the federal government?

I can.

With absolute certainty, it'll be easy for me because I got my good standing card and letter.

The reason why I did not is because I didn't want a job.

Like those jobs, if I get a job that's befitting of my skills and abilities, those are high-paying jobs and they require a lot of work.

And I did not want to not be able to focus on January 6th stuff.

Like, this is a moral thing for me.

Like, I am morally invested into this.

People are in jail.

Some probably shouldn't even be.

Or, at the very least, they have more charges and more years attributed to them that they wouldn't have if the facts of what really occurred on January 6th came out.

So, no.

Okay, so

we've only talked about Pittman, okay?

She's a security intel person.

And you claim that she knew about it, and we could prove it with an investigation.

She knew about it,

and then for some reason, sat quietly.

Do you have any idea of why she would do that?

That is because I believe that someone or something

or something gave her the impression that if Chief Son was fired for doing a bad job because things got out of hand on January 6th, she would then become the new chief.

It was basically a coup of the department.

She tried to initiate a coup of the department is basically what occurred.

And who would tell her?

Wait, who would tell her?

I mean, most Americans would say, well, no, I mean, I want to protect the Capitol.

And then you could see those who are greedy enough that they want their job and so they'll let bad things happen.

But who who would tell her that, hey, we're going to make this happen for you?

Just turn the other way.

I would say probably someone that hated Donald Trump.

And

what kind of information do you think she had?

That there was going to be a planned attack on the Capitol?

FBI sources were saying?

Yeah, she had the report that it was a planned attack of the the capital and what they were going to do it's called 21 td 159 and she would not give it to son she had the report and um like there are names that you guys um know like you guys know who ray epps is yeah you don't know who julie farnum is you know who my wait wait is mike who we didn't know who what was the first name

julie farnham who is julie farnum um you know i said like the i mean like everybody knows who ray epps is but julie farnum is she was a civilian and she was one of the high-ranking people in the intel section.

So you don't know who she is, but you know who Ray Epps is.

So people don't know to

where to look to really find out what occurred on January 6th in the intelligence because if January 6th was truly an intelligence failure, the first place you have to go is to the intelligence division and look at every single person in the intelligence division.

And that did not happen.

Because everybody should know who Pittman is.

Everybody should know who Julie Farnum is.

And who is Julie Farnum?

She was the civilian,

she was one of the civilians, one of the high-ranking civilians in charge of getting that information and

disseminating that information to Pittman.

And she was hired, from what I'm hearing, with very little to no, which

in law enforcement, I'm hearing she had no experience.

And then when it came to intel, she only had like three years of experience.

And she was hired by Pittman.

Okay.

All right.

So is it possible this is just incompetence?

Anything's possible, but

so now, even if it is incompetence,

whether it was a competence, whether it was on purpose,

how are we going to know if we don't investigate it?

True.

We have to investigate.

Okay.

We need to to know who these people are and exactly what they did.

All right.

Tarek, I want to continue the conversation with our producers and our investigators.

And I also am going to reach out to a couple of people that may be able to help you at least find the right person that you can, you and the whistleblowers can actually

show the evidence of these things and feel as safe as anyone could possibly feel now in Washington.

And I do, I would like to say this.

I'm not targeting any member of Congress.

I'm not putting fault or blame on any members of Congress.

But if you watch the last

one of the last congressional hearings with Manger, I think it was July 26th.

And one of the congressmen was trying to get,

I guess, Chief Manger to basically lift the NDAs.

And Chief Manger, or at the very least, one of the other things he wanted to know, they wanted to see Yogananda Pittman's agreement.

And Manger said no.

So obviously, Congress is not powerful enough to get Manger to do what needs to be done to effect a real investigation.

All right.

Tarek, thank you.

I appreciate it.

I appreciate your honesty.

I appreciate the fact that you are kept awake at night, and this is a moral cause for you.

Thank you so much.

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It's a pretty interesting interview.

I mean, to hear someone who's in the middle of that talking about all of the behind the scenes.

I mean, it's interesting to hear him talk because he's obviously a guy who knows a lot about these internal machinations.

And, you know, obviously as an outsider, I don't understand all of that stuff.

But you can tell he's put a lot of thought into this.

His whole life changed.

It's a whole life change.

And he's, as he mentioned, avoiding

highly paid jobs just so he can deal with this stuff.

And I think he found out some things, at least this is what he believes,

that he found out some things that

have destroyed his vision of America and fairness and honesty and integrity and all the things the police are supposed to be for.

So what's the argument here?

Is it that there's just more to meet the charge?

The charge is

that

Pittman, the intel chief, had this information.

And for political purposes or for her own benefit, someone said,

hold off on that information.

Don't share that information.

Allow this to happen.

So it's not a charge that this was all

a hoax,

but the charge I think he's making is that she

benefited directly from not sharing the information.

So who told her, don't share the information, let this happen?

That's quite a charge and should be investigated.

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Uh-huh.

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Can we talk about Hunter Biden for a second?

Oh, I'd love to.

Would you?

I was hoping somebody would bring him up today.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm a little upset.

Ver schmeckled.

I'm a little verschmeckled.

Very schmeckled.

And curious on this because tonight on Studios America,

we're going to answer the media's question.

They have a very serious question or comment they keep making, which is, you know, there's all these accusations out there about Hunter Biden, but very little to no evidence supporting them.

You mean besides the laptop?

Yeah.

Besides the phone calls?

Yeah.

Besides the eyewitnesses?

Text messages.

Text messages.

Witnesses.

All that.

I got to go through

just some of the most obvious

stuff.

Right.

Stuff that's not, there's no disagreement on.

Right.

And go through the actual evidence here that shows there really was something going on, something very wrong going on with not just

but Joe, right?

I'm not talking about Hunter.

I'm talking about Joe.

You mean besides the testimony that they were selling the

illusion of power,

which is a crime.

Doesn't matter if they're actually doing it.

The fact that you're selling that and you're creating the illusion that your father is involved is enough.

And I will say.

Yes.

And I will say, I'm going to try to be very deliberate with this.

Because

that is a crime that could extend to Joe Biden.

But is for Hunter.

But is a crime for Hunter, right?

And so I'm not talking about just Hunter, although it's important to note that that obviously this is.

But what leads you to believe that Joe was involved?

I mean, the 19 Shell corporations by every member of the Biden family, except for the one, you know, that they just recognized and Joe.

But everyone else in the family has a shell corporation.

What evidence do you have that there was money laundering going on?

That one in particular is hilarious because the media has been.

Look, I have a very low opinion of the media and what they will do to defend their guy, right?

Like,

I'm not.

That's how you would describe it.

A low opinion.

I have a very low opinion.

Wow.

I don't think my opinion was.

It's a black hole.

It is.

It is.

Okay, fine.

Very low opinion.

It doesn't escape your opinion.

Thank you.

That's fair.

And I own that proudly.

Okay, yeah.

But even I would have been skeptical if the media would hear a report about $20 to $30 million going to every member of Joe Biden's family and say, oh, there was nothing there.

They didn't show a direct payment to Joe.

It's like, guys.

Come on.

No, it's got to be said this way.

Guys, guys, guys, guys.

Come on.

Number one, we do have, and I'm getting into half the stuff.

I don't want to get into tonight.

We do have on record text messages from Hunter Biden saying that he's paying for everything that Joe wants to do that we have from Hunter Biden.

And

he says, unlike dad,

I won't force you to give 50%

of everything you make.

Right.

We've got that on record already.

Okay.

But even if you're not.

Of what evidence do you have?

Exactly.

But even if you take that as just

at its

so

base for a second,

the person we're talking about who's vice president of the United States when this is going on

is a already very wealthy man who is approaching his 80s.

What else is he going to do with his money?

Right.

Like the end of his life is his legacy that he passes to all the crack addicts in his family.

That's how it works.

There's only one crack addict.

Yeah, it's true.

I apologize to the other heroin addicts or whatever else is in the family.

Oh, no, you're right.

There were two.

You're right.

There were two.

The point is that like, this is when you're in your 80s and you're getting a payment.

You want to bring in 20, you want to use your influence to get $20 million.

That money is eventually going to your kids and family anyway.

Yes.

So instead of drawing a direct line to yourself as vice president, most likely you're going to let them have it.

And when you need something, it'll be there for you.

And by the way, that's the way most

family business works yeah you don't you don't get the money no you're still the family you're never rich on paper now joe is i know and you know what's weird he's rich on paper just for service service since 1971 there's a problem with our service then isn't there

but not really service we went back years ago i think it was one year on fox maybe and went through and calculated how much money joe biden had made inflation adjusted just from his salary as a senator.

And it's millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars.

This man is, you know, he's rich from that too.

And he's rich from book deals that they paid him $48 a copy for everyone sold, right?

Like he's rich for a bunch of different reasons, but this would explain a lot of the reasons why he's able to take lavish vacations and be on the beach when people are asking about what's going on in Maui.

There's a lot of things going on here, but there is tons and tons of evidence.

That's not even what I wanted to get into with Hunter Biden.

We're going to get into that tonight on Studios America.

I wanted to ask you, though, here we are.

We're at this place, and there's been such weird activity around this where there was it looked like there was a settlement and it was going to be completely excused.

And then all of a sudden, they went to court.

And then the government said, No, actually, it's not a get-out-of-jail free card for all your crimes.

Then the thing gets thrown out.

Then a special counsel starts.

It's so confusing.

So, where does this go from here?

Like, where?

Because I, my skepticism, and you noted it's a black hole,

says

this is all going to get out.

Nothing's going to happen to Hunter and nothing's going to happen to Joe and everything's going to go down this road.

And we're all going to wind up a few years from now going, remember when it seemed like they might actually get Hunter on something?

But like, who knew he was going to be the successor to his father as president and name himself king?

What a thought.

Remember, a few years ago, look, he might go to jail.

So, where do you think this goes from here?

So I think there's

several, there's several scenarios.

I mean, I have no idea.

No one does.

But if you ask me

as a New York Times best-selling author of fiction,

you've written thrillers that have written thrillers.

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Okay, so let me just write some ideas down here.

So your question, Stu.

Yeah, and basically, like, you're a fiction writer.

You're going to wargame how all this Hunter Biden stuff plays out.

You know, again, we're looking for drama here.

We're looking for realistic, plausible things the audience could believe,

but not necessarily your prediction on the legal machinations of this case.

Is there a

what are the paths you see forward in that sort of context?

Off the top of my head, three

different scenarios here.

First scenario, and I don't think this one is as believable

because if it was a if it was a guy my age, maybe, but a guy at 80, I don't think so.

Okay.

There is a case to be made.

I just wrote a little addendum to this ending in my head, and I'm like, well, then that would work.

The first ending is this is all about power and control, and he's boxed into a corner.

He has no place to go, so he does Emergency War Powers Act, either for a war or something, and he grabs onto power and shuts it all down.

Okay.

But he's 80.

So I don't see it.

He can't grab onto anything.

Staircase handle it.

Right.

So I don't see that one as really feasible, except

if you write it to where he's not really the president, it's a shadow,

I could see that happening and then him dying and then secession happens and you get the bad guys get who they want.

You know what I mean?

Okay, so there's scenario one.

I'd watch that movie.

You'd watch that movie.

This is just, I wanted to say, this is just a movie or a book.

This is not real and I'm not claiming that these are happening.

This is how I would write the endings that I think are possible.

Maybe not so probable.

Like that one, I don't think it's probable.

Then you have,

if I'm writing about a crime family,

then I come up to the scenario where they're like, look, this is your problem.

He's your son.

And he's getting mouthy.

You take care of him or I take care of him.

You understand what I'm saying?

And any partner would start to say, he's going to get us all killed.

And we told you that from the beginning.

And

because I think in this scenario, and I think this is true, Hunter is getting a little upset.

Yeah, this is

been reporting on this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he's upset and he's like, why isn't anybody supporting me?

No one's defending me.

Right.

No one's making the case.

They're all just saying nothing.

And he has been the guy who has already said that.

He already has lost the laptop.

We know in his own writings to his own families, I'm not like pop.

I'm not going to take 50%.

He's already,

I think,

that laptop

is not necessarily just out of control.

I think it was an insurance

card.

Look, it's out.

It's out.

And I got more, Dad.

So I think you're going to take care of me.

And so when it's not happening, and he's starting to get flighty, I could see a suicide

that was a real suicide.

I could see a suicide that just kind of happened.

And then listen to this scenario.

This just popped into my head.

Suicide happens.

So now there's no bad guy to go after, okay?

Leave me alone.

We're grieving again.

We're grieving.

I've lost another son in a flag-drape coffin.

I mean,

you could easily see, and everybody just covers and it goes away.

And Joe goes off into the sunset because he's grieving his son, and we're all going to leave him alone.

And so no crime goes punished.

I think that's a pretty good scenario.

I mean, it's a very house of cards type of scenario.

Yeah.

If you watch the series.

And the other one is

they just come, and maybe this is the reason why if I'm writing fiction, again, this is fiction.

If I'm writing fiction, another ending would be for

Weiss.

the character who is now in charge of this, but you know, in the book, you'd know that Merritt Garland is taking, is giving the orders to Weiss, make that plea deal, make this go away.

They've had now a struggle with that.

So

you think that Merrick Garland is covering for Joe, but he's not actually.

He's part of a, this is a fiction thing.

He's just part of this bigger

cabal that is out there.

And so as you're reading the book, you're like, oh man, he is in with, and he's trying to get the son off by making this the guy who is the special counsel, when indeed what he's doing is he's consolidating power.

And then he goes to Biden, who it ends up in the book he's not working for.

He's working for other shadows in the dark.

And he says, Look,

you're going to resign.

Your numbers aren't going well.

Otherwise, I use him to squeeze.

And you know, and I know what we know.

And

he already knows, I'm going to take the leash off you.

Now

I can do that, or we can all play nice, and you're going to go right away, and so is your son, into the sunset.

Which do you choose?

That's fascinating.

I mean, I think, first of all, they're all good movies, all good House of Cards episodes.

And all

strangely plausible.

Well, the last one I think is maybe the most plausible, right?

Because

there's definitely a faction of the Democratic power base that realizes what everyone else realizes.

Joe Biden's a very weak candidate and is in real trouble against anybody the Republicans nominate, even someone who they say has four indictments and he might be in prison.

Look at the polls.

He's very, very vulnerable to lose this particular race.

And

if you need a way to force him out, remember, he's still the president of the United States.

No matter how oblivious he seems, no matter how oblivious he is, he's still the president of the United States.

And if he wants that nomination, he can have it.

But if they come to him behind the scenes and say, Look, either you step out of this and say, I'm resigning after the end of my term, I'm not running again, and we let someone who is better than you get this nomination, or we hand it to Kamala or whatever.

If you don't do that, we're coming after Hunter and we're going to make your life a living hell.

And I have to tell you, if you do it soon, you have Kamala in for just a year after year.

And

everybody doesn't like her and she's a failure.

And it is your ability to run somebody else that you think

is better because by the time you get up to the, nobody's going to vote for...

Kamala Harris.

Nobody.

And she would pardon the old man, which would then mean an end to her career like it did Ford.

I mean, you know,

there are definitely people strategizing that type of thing.

That one is, there are definitely people strategizing that right now.

That's real.

I mean, the question is whether they have the power to do anything on that one, whether they actually would go through with it.

I mean, it's, look, it seems

plausible on a house of cards scenario to actually pull that off in real life is really hard, and it could go wrong a hundred different ways for the people trying to do it.

Including a massive loss by kamala harris or gavin newsom or somebody else the last scenario i think could be pulled off

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I want to play what happened at the Nordstroms in Los Angeles over the weekend.

This is amazing

robbery.

You want to go ahead and play the video, please?

There it is.

Now,

look at how many people are involved, all dressed in black, all with the same hoods.

They're just grabbing stuff.

Thousands of dollars they've grabbed.

And they're just grabbing and dashing.

The stuff you hear rattling are like giant shelves that they're pulling because they're chained to the shelves.

And so they're pulling the handbags along with the shelves toward the door.

And nobody's stopping them.

It's incredible.

Nobody's stopping them.

I was in a small town.

Stop me if I've told this story this morning.

I was in a small town over the weekend, little teeny, teeny town.

And there was a

Big Lots store.

and you know big lots is you know you're not in big lots and a millionaire you know it's yeah you're you're going in for yeah you're going in for a deal on something

and uh so

uh

tanya and i are in we're just trying to buy a little you know tv stand for our son's you know dorm room and uh so we're we go in there and and i said hey do you happen to have like a screwdriver or anything like that we can buy and the lady at the cashier desk said, Yeah, in the back corner on the left.

So go back there.

And another woman, this older woman, is coming out.

And I go to the corner and there's just nothing there.

And I said, I'm sorry, do you have any screwdrivers?

And she didn't even look at the shelf.

She said,

probably not.

Should be over there, but it's all.

And then she looks at the shelf, gone.

And

I said, oh.

And she said,

people just come in now and they just take it.

It's $2.

It's $10.

It's $100.

They don't care.

This is in Colorado.

She said,

the state has made it now.

So it's $2,000 before you can do anything.

She said, you know, that's just pretty much everything in the store under $2,000.

So they just come in and they just walk right out.

And I said, really?

Even here in this little teeny town?

She said, oh, absolutely.

I mean, and I thought of that.

Look at what you're teaching.

I mean, if I didn't have, you know, my own moral compass and I knew they couldn't do anything and I needed a screwdriver, why wouldn't I just walk in and just grab the screwdriver and walk out?

Yeah.

Why?

And who wins in that?

Who loses in that?

You're corrupting man.

You're corrupting our society plus you're not just hurting um one store you're hurting all stores no one can keep no one could lose a two dollar screwdriver every time they put it out if that's all they were taking nordstroms how are they going to keep their doors open you can't keep a store

If people are coming in and robbing you and they get away with it.

And in this particular case, what was it?

25, maybe, maybe 30 people all dressed in black, except for a couple, all dressed in black, same kind of outfit.

I'm not saying they coordinated other than wear black and hand out the masks.

And so they all are,

this just didn't happen.

There just didn't happen to be, you know, 30 guys all dressed in black with black stocking caps.

And they saw one guy go in and they're like, hey, here's my chance.

Yes, it's safe to say this is Cordon.

This is Cordon.

This is organized crime.

Yes, and that's how, I mean, that might be one of the ways that they try to shut this down eventually.

I mean, if you had a Giuliani type back in the day, back in the day, New York-style Mayor Giuliani.

Oh, he'd end this fast.

He would, and he would use the tools against, and he would use organized crime statutes to probably do it.

And you look at this and it's like, you know, they supposedly stole $100,000.

Oh, it's $100,000.

That's what I heard in a report this morning.

$100,000.

How does Nordstrom just take that?

How do they take that?

Knowing that the minute they replace it, it can be done again by the same people.

Yep, and will be done again.

There was a story in the New York Times, and it was an op-ed, talking about how it was a woman who said she went to a store in

San Francisco and that

every single thing now is that a pharmacy is behind protective glass slash plastic.

So everything she has to do when she wants to buy something, she has to press a button and an employee has to come over and unlock it.

Right.

Like we all know that from like certain items, like, you know, I don't know, high-end video game systems and around Christmas, they might be able to do that.

I was in a Dwayne Reed in New York last year.

Every

item.

Every item.

So now, you know, she's like, I didn't have privacy.

I wanted to get a pharmacy.

I want to get some sensitive stuff maybe for something I'm dealing with.

I've got to call an employee over, you know, stop them.

She's like, I didn't get everything I wanted because every time I wanted to get something, I had to interrupt the employees to come over.

Half the time they didn't show up.

Then, you know, she's like, I didn't make any impulse buys because you couldn't.

There was no impulse buys.

What does that do to the economy?

It takes away your privacy.

It takes away your experience.

She said she talked to, there was one person that was quoted in the article that said, that worked at Old Navy and said they went through a two-day period where

they were robbed 22 times in two days.

22 times in two days.

This has happened to my wife and my daughter were in a makeup store.

This is, I think, late last year, in a makeup store.

And while they were in there shopping, three women came in with giant black grocery bags and filled up three giant, hefty, you know, those like industrial grocery bags, or excuse me, trash bags with makeup.

Now, you think of how much makeup that would be.

And believe me, I actually have to pay for it.

So I can tell you it costs a lot and you fill up three of those garbage bags i mean what is that a year was a year's salary for someone probably by the end of it and they just walked out with no conflict no one trying to stop them they just walked in and walked out and my wife my wife asked like what the heck just happened she's like oh yeah we've you know these people they come in you know once a week once a month and just do this and just take it out and we just have to order more because they won't let us do anything about it and This is insanity.

I mean, I don't know what the solution is to it exactly.

It's either a massive increase in police force where you have police everywhere, which is like a police state-type environment.

Because if you can't trust anybody to not break the law constantly, that's what winds up happening.

That's not a good thing, as we know.

Can I take you back a few years?

Sure.

When I expressed

the

top-down, bottom-up inside-out.

That you would have enough players at the top that they could change things to destabilize a country.

And then that would cause the bottom to rise up and the bad ones at the bottom of the ladder to rise up and take advantage of that.

And they would be excused for it.

All happening.

All happening.

And then finally, the rest of the people stand up and say, this has got to stop.

It's got to stop.

And so

the top comes down hard and says, oh, we'll fix it.

Have you seen what the Democrats are now saying that they want?

They now want the

National Guard called.

Now, they didn't like that when Donald Trump wanted to use the National Guard in the right way to protect a federal building.

Now they want the National Guard to patrol patrol the streets.

That's what I like to call

a lockdown and military presence in the street.

What do you call those?

When a government does that, closes down.

Martial law.

Martial law.

And the point, and I think if I'm going back to your analogy correctly from a few years ago, eventually people in the middle start.

calling out for it.

Yes, they want it.

They want it.

How many people do you know that have said, this has got to stop?

I don't care how we fix it.

This has got to stop.

I feel that way at times.

Oh,

I watch that and I say, like, you know, there was the footage of the 7-Eleven being burglarized.

You see this late last week where the guy behind the counter who's filming is like, guys, just let him go.

There's nothing we can do.

And the two other people working there say, screw it, tackle the guy and start beating him with a

broomstick or whatever, some big pole.

And I don't know.

Like, I was like, what's the, is it okay?

What's the number that's okay to hit him with the, with the stick?

20 times, 30 times, like, whatever it was, I was like, fine with it.

I don't know what the number was, but like, I was like, 100 might be too much.

That is the problem.

You will have, this is what I've been warning about the Weimar Republic.

This is it.

This is what happens.

I think people get there very quickly.

You get there quickly.

We are also at the end of my prediction where I said, use the pendulum.

Do you remember that years ago?

And we were swinging the pendulum.

And I said, it's all fun and games until somebody, and then I grabbed it at one extreme, grabs the pendulum.

And it depends on who's in power.

That pendulum could be grabbed by this president or the next president.

And you have a lot of people on both sides that will be fine with it.

You cannot be fine with that.

We lose freedom.

And there is no such thing as a temporary dictator, a temporary all-powerful president.

No,

you never get it back.

You don't want that out either.

If I may quote George Washington,

we did not overthrow one tyrant to replace him with another.

The only solution is to enforce the laws as written.

We don't need any more laws.

We don't need any more power.

We need those with power constitutionally to execute their job.

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Jeez.

Up in the Hollywood Hills, apparently, squatters went into a mansion worth about $10 million,

trashed it, threw feces all over the walls,

put all the furniture

in the pools, spray-painted words like sex and F, rich people.

And I love this one.

Residents of the wealthy neighborhood were upset about the crime, but they did not want to appear to voice their concerns.

I didn't know what was going on.

I'm just finding out about it now.

It makes me a little more aware of my surroundings, though.

Does it?

Oh.

Right, because you don't want want to be the person quoted.

No.

Right.

And then what happens?

So I was trying to think of how to stop this, right?

And I think an increased police

presence is something that's actually necessary just generally in our society right now.

Not to the point of some police state, but I do think we should not be defunding police at this point.

We should be going the opposite direction.

How are you going to send them back to those cities?

I don't know.

I have no idea on that one.

Again, this might just be that red states are are safe and blue states aren't.

I don't know what they

could be.

Another way of doing this, of course, is armed security with sane laws that protect people, you know,

business owners, right?

But the problem is, of course, with ESG and all these other things, these companies are intentionally telling their armed security, even if they're armed, not to do anything.

So I don't know.

I mean, like, that would take a total change.

It may protect some stores, but not others.

The other one I was thinking of is I wonder if there's a technological solution to this.

And I I thought of this as I was going through in the airport through the Amazon store.

Have you done this yet?

There's one in Dallas, and I'm sure there's other ones around, but you walk in, you swipe your credit card on the way into the store.

You walk around, you pick up whatever you want in the store.

You don't go to a register, you just walk out.

Like that is actually how the store works.

They've been in Seattle now for a few years.

They've had them through Seattle.

They have them all over the place.

This is the first time I'd ever been in one.

And it's weird.

It's a weird experience.

You feel like you're just walking out with a bunch of merchandise you didn't pay for.

What's the difference?

Right now, first of all, what's the difference but second of all the big difference is you swipe your card on the way in right so it's almost like a membership card right you you swipe a card and if it's not valid you don't go in the store you don't they don't open the doors for you in the first place oh it doesn't open That is, in theory, I think, a way to protect against this.

Okay.

Right.

They do have, now, this particular store, it's inside of an airport, so it's really hard, but they have like a kiosk, like a kiosk turnstile type of thing that you can't go through until you swipe your card.

So no one gets in the store unless they they have a card or with someone who has a card.

And you could see a scenario where regular stores start going to this model.

Look, you prove you're going to pay before you walk in, but that sets almost a membership level on normal shopping.

And think about this as it ties into what you've talked about with central bank digital currencies.

The door's not opening.

The door doesn't open unless you have CBDC, right?

I mean, if that, I'm just trying to tie together all of your horror scenarios into one strategic thing.

And it's, and it's conveniently working.

It conveniently works.

And it conveniently, we're walking right down this road.

And it's a scary thing because, you know, we talk about cash going away.

There's a reason why cash is important.

And, you know,

it could go away.

And this type of scenario is one where you could really see it going on.

And you could, I would understand Nordstrom saying, nope.

No card, no entrance.

We're sick of this.

We're going to make it impossible for you to get in.

Now, how this protects the people who walk out with the merchandise is a totally different story, but it's no longer the store's problem, I suppose, at that point.

But I mean, you could easily see a scenario like this where they just don't let you in these stores at all unless you have a card or some way to pay.

Just give us a scan of your retina and you can come in.

It's happening.

It's happening.

Run for the hills.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Why did you come back from Idaho?