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Hello, America.

Welcome to the Glen Beck Program live from St.

George and the Blueprints of Liberty Museum

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George.

Also, something that's happening in St.

George today is

a drag queen show in the park.

And who doesn't love a good drag queen show in 110 degree weather?

It's fantastic.

We'll talk about that.

Also the president,

I don't even know what he was talking about yesterday.

He is in a complete fog and after his interview with NMSNBC on set, just got up and walked off.

It's another interesting day with Joe Biden.

And I want to cover some of the things that we might have missed this week.

We begin with the Nordstream pipeline in 60 seconds.

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Where is Stu now?

Is he like Johnny Carson?

Is he working three days a week?

I believe that's his schedule now, yeah.

That's his schedule.

Okay, good.

Well, all right.

I mean, I don't remember on the Carson show, Ed McMahon getting all the days off and Johnny going into work.

But,

Pat, thanks for joining us.

I can't wait to talk to you about the latest on Joe Biden.

But first, let me tell you about the new investigation into what should be one of the biggest questions of the last couple of years.

The investigation is now completed.

The question is,

who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline?

This was now, this investigation was led by a, quote, private enthusiast,

a Swedish engineer named Eric Anderson.

He was fed up over the,

of the lack of information, so he decided, you know, I'm going to go down and look myself, which kind of pisses me off.

We shouldn't have to wait for a Swedish, what was it, a

Swedish private enthusiast to answer one of the bigger questions of our time.

But

it's over now.

It's been over a year.

So what did the private enthusiast tell us?

Well, he's not sure now.

Okay,

that's helpful.

May I ask,

can we get some answers on a few things?

It seems like the press

and

the government, Congress, the White House, the Pentagon, they seem to be releasing all kinds of stuff about UFO.

UFOs.

I don't even know what this is.

Every day, there's another one today.

Yeah, UFOs are real and we've got alien spaceships.

Wait, what?

And I don't know if it's real or just a distraction, but could we maybe lay off the aliens for just a second and let's just talk about the real story of the vaccines and the unexpected deaths and what happened with that?

How about, hey,

who started the COVID-19 virus?

How did it happen?

Or could we get some answers on the Twitter files?

Here's one I'd like.

Epstein's client list.

If this guy were a trucker in Nebraska, everyone on that list would have been exposed by now.

How about we work a little bit on the pipe bomb from January 6th?

We don't know anything about that.

How about who's Jane's revenge?

Or what was the motive?

for the Las Vegas shooter.

Why don't we know any of those things?

Yet, we know exactly what Donald Trump said about a document that they never found.

That's not even to mention the manifesto that we never got either.

They're still keeping that from us, the trans person's manifesto who went into the school and killed six people.

And they keep saying, well, there's all these conspiracy theorists.

Well, because you're not telling us anything, you're not coming forth with information that makes any sense.

So currently there are official investigations being conducted by Sweden, Denmark, Germany, and Russia and nobody seems to have any information.

Sweden has collected evidence from the seabed but deemed the information national security and refused to release it.

You know, there comes a point in a nation's history where national security means you should release the information because nobody's believing any institution.

Why would the government investigating this

be content with the whole world

just thinking maybe it's the United States?

It doesn't make sense that it's Russia, but maybe it was Russia.

At first, the United States and Russia blamed each other.

Then the veteran journalist Seymour Hirsch wrote an in-depth article article that claimed the United States was

ultimately responsible.

What did the government respond with?

I haven't read that article.

I don't think that's true.

Oh, okay.

Well, that makes me feel better.

Then the reports started to surface of Russian ghost ships.

Well, let's call the Scooby-Doo team.

Let's get the mystery van in.

Three months ago, Joe Biden met with the German counterpart for a private meeting.

Then a few days after that, things started to be reported in places like the New York Times that it was a pro-Ukrainian group that most likely blew up the pipeline.

And six individuals chartered a sailboat and pulled something off that previously all the experts were saying could only be accomplished by a major state actor.

More on this one in a second.

So the curious, back to him, the curious

Swedish engineer in his private investigation, Eric Anderson read Seymour Hirsch's article and

his original intent was to try to prove it accurate.

But on conclusion, he decided the most likely culprits were amateurs with not a lot of experience.

He found that the explosives used and how they were placed were,

how do I say this?

Not Navy SEAL quality.

So not the U.S.

government, says the private enthusiast.

Well, you know what?

I feel so good when we're on the verge of World War III that a Swedish private enthusiast could give us the answers.

Thegrayzone.com received exclusive photos from Eric Anderson's investigation and their analysis.

I've never even heard,

but see what they have to say.

Their analysis differs from Anderson's.

They cite another independent engineer that none of us have heard of named Michael Cobbs.

And he says that the amount of explosive used around 100 pounds was very, very specific.

Not too much.

Not too little.

Goldilocks, it was just right.

He said, if we disregard disregard the chain reaction caused by the overpressure at all the other crime scenes, the scale of destruction certainly seems calculated, but by no means exaggerated.

These were no amateurs at work.

So maybe Hirsch was right.

Maybe Hirsch was wrong.

Who knows?

Because no one will tell us anything.

There is no one searching for an honest answer anywhere on earth except regular people.

Everybody in the news media, everybody in politics, they don't care about the truth.

In fact, they're pushing lies on us all the time.

Hey, are you a man?

Have you been pregnant before?

No, I'm a man and men can't get pregnant.

How dare you say that?

Now, here's what they will tell us.

After Biden met with the German prime minister, and this is the only official narrative that we have.

A pro-Ukrainian group of six individuals that are connected to the Ukrainian military charted a sailboat and set off to blow up Nordstream.

How do we know this?

Well,

apparently a tip came in from a quote Western intelligence agency.

Oh,

they said five men and one woman loaded diving gear, oxygen tanks, and a hundred pounds of explosives onto the sailboat.

Then,

without any other equipment, no decompression chamber, somehow or another, the five men and the one woman, I want to make sure that we were very inclusive, there was a woman on board, somehow they took that 100 pounds of explosive

down to the ocean floor, placed them exactly in the right place on the pipelines.

And the tip from the Western Intelligence Agency

went on to say

it was a lucky, lucky thing that they placed the explosives exactly in the right place.

A recent report from the Swedish outlet, the Expressen,

Which is probably a little more credible than the gray zone, but seeing that I've never heard of the Expressen either, who knows?

They said a lot of important clues were found when authorities located the sailboat.

Now,

on this sailboat, they found traces of explosives that match exactly what would be needed.

Not always used, but what would be needed for underwater demolition.

That's an amazing luck.

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those darn kids in the mystery van.

So it gets better.

They also found a forged passport, and it was left behind on the boat.

Now,

this is very fortunate for us.

I mean, it's probably pretty regular that a clandestine operative, five men and one woman, leave behind identification.

at the crime scene.

But they track down, the expressin did, they tracked down the person identified on the passport who of course was Ukrainian also

of course

They can't find him.

They don't know what happened.

They had a picture of him and we've got cameras all over the world We just can't darn it.

I wish we could find that guy, but we can't they did however track down one of his relatives who stated they knew for a fact that he was not out of the country during the time of the bombing.

So there's that.

We have the Expressen, which is very, very credible.

And we have this guy's family who said the opposite.

Gee, who do we believe?

So now we're back to square one.

We currently have four official investigations.

Two of them are private investigations,

and one with an extremely lucky Western intelligence agency tip that claims six people on a sailboat pulled everything off.

Dueling narrative after dueling narrative.

I don't know.

It feels like, again,

confusion is almost purposeful.

The media is doing absolutely zero real investigation and journalism.

None.

Outside, you know, of regurgitating, you know, stuff from their usual, well, insiders and unnamed sources tell us.

Really?

Is that somebody from the NSA?

Is that somebody from the CIA who's been obviously feeding you false information for years?

And yet you're still going back to the same source over and over and over again?

So chalk this one up to yet one of the greatest mysteries of all time

that

places us on the verge of World War III, that will probably take us several years to actually find out what the truth is, but don't worry, they're very, very close to telling us the whole truth.

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So this one's right around the corner.

All of these lies, all of the disinformation only makes things much more dangerous in the world.

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We have got to play the video of

Joe Biden yesterday.

Oh my gosh.

Can you imagine being in Russia and with all the things that are going bad and going wrong in Russia, seeing the video every day that comes from the President of the United States, you'd be like, this, you got to be kidding me.

I'm losing to this guy?

Here he is yesterday.

Let's say there was three cuts that I think I saw on the top of the hour news.

Could we start with cut number one, please?

Joe Biden, do we have it?

He said this court is not normal.

What did you mean?

What I meant with that is it's done more to unravel basic rights and basic decisions than any court in

recent history.

And that's what I meant by not normal.

It's gone out of its way to, I mean, for example, take a look at overruling Roe v.

Wade.

Take a look at what the decision today.

Take a look at

how it's ruled on a number of issues that

have been precedent for 50, 60 years sometimes.

and that's what i meant by not normal to stop stop stop

just because it's precedent doesn't mean that it's right

i mean well you know they stopped slavery i mean slavery had been around for thousands of years how could this country ever stop slavery the precedent was already there just because it's precedent doesn't mean it's right

and i love the way uh they love the supreme court when it goes their way uh and when it doesn't they're just out of control.

I mean, they're out of control.

They're not reading the Constitution.

No,

no, no, that's the liberal judge.

These judges are reading the Constitution.

Go on with more.

Its value system is different.

And its respect for institutions is different.

And that's

different for just a second.

It's respect for institutions.

While he damn the Constitution, or he damns the Supreme Court as an institution and says they're not credible,

he's talking about

how they don't respect institutions.

Go ahead.

It is not as embracing of

all

what I think the Constitution says we hold these truths to be self-all men and women are created equal, endowed by their Creator.

It's the uniqueness of America.

We never fully lived up to it.

We never walked away from it.

And this court seems to say that, no, that's not always the case.

The idea there's no right of privacy in the Constitution, giving states power that we fought a war over in 1960.

Wait, what?

What?

In 1960?

We fought a war over the Constitution.

There's so much there.

Personally, that wasn't the Constitution.

It was the Declaration of Independence.

And what war did we fight in 1960 over state rights?

Was that

what was that?

Was that Vietnam?

And by the way, fighting the war over state rights, no, it was over slavery.

You know, and

those states were breaking away for slavery.

Can you imagine living in that crazy head of his?

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And we're here for Liberty Village.

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So, Pat,

affirmative action yesterday.

If

I know my history, and I'm pretty good at it,

and I know what Martin Luther King was all about,

yesterday would have been a very, very good day.

Yes.

But apparently the left is upset.

Very.

Let me read you this tweet from Erica Marsh.

She tweeted out.

Oh, boy, it's not from a racist, is it?

Oh, no.

Okay.

This is a person who supports people of color, Glenn.

Okay, okay, good, good.

She tweeted, today's Supreme Court decision is a direct attack on black people.

No black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system,

which is exactly why affirmative action-based programs were needed.

Today's decision is a travesty.

No black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system?

Wow.

Wow, what a racist system.

I think blood is coming out of my eyes.

Did you see the James Bond movie with the guy in Casino Royale?

He kept had, he would,

when he get really upset, the blood would come out of his tear ducts.

It's actually shooting out of my eyes.

That seems

a little racist.

Yeah.

To say that

no black person

could get into college

on merit.

Is that amazing?

You know what it seems like?

It seems almost like the early American, very 20th century early American progressive that thought that blacks were kind of subhuman and really were really somebody that we should dispose of because they're useless.

Which is why.

Kind of sounds like that.

Which is why Margaret Sanger, who was one of those progressives,

came up with a great idea of Planned Parenthood so that they could eliminate the undesirables before they were even born.

And we don't have to worry about that.

Let me tell you.

You're only saying that because of the writings of Margaret Sanger, where she said, don't tell the black pastors that we're trying to get rid of all blacks.

Right.

That's the only reason I'm saying I'm only saying

because it's true.

So,

you know,

I know that's my fault.

I apologize for that.

I'm sorry.

America's not used to hearing truth anymore, and we're sorry to break it to you, but that's some of the things that we have for you.

By the way, I just did a podcast on what's called the Red Pill Room that is part of the

tour here for history.

We have millions and millions, tens of millions of dollars worth of American artifacts.

And I love it when people say, you know, you're just, you're just, you're just trying to make the Republicans look good.

No.

We start the red pill room with Theodore Roosevelt.

And he was a Republican and a progressive.

And he thought, you know, we don't take our cattle and just let them breed with any other cow.

We decide who they can breed with, and that's what we should do with humans.

In fact, we didn't have a blood test.

We didn't have a marriage license until that kind of thinking happened.

And Origin of the Species, which said there are subhumans, people that aren't fully baked, and it was codified.

But follow the science.

Follow the science.

This is exactly the kind of thinking, and we're returning to it.

And the people who say they're for civil rights, you know, I swear to you, I've got to do this.

I just

don't have any time.

But I'm telling you, my gut screams this to me, that the great society, you can't take Johnson, who was the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Act in 1959,

and then by 1964, have him the champion.

of civil rights.

It makes no sense.

The guy was an extraordinary racist till the day he dropped dead.

And all of the everything that was done in great society crippled the black family and the black man, crippled it, broke the family up.

Black families had a better record of staying together in 1963 than white families did.

By a lot.

Now look at it.

Yeah.

By a lot.

In fact, I'm telling you.

It turned around almost exactly because it was, I think 80 or 85 percent of black families had the father in the home now it's yes it's 73 percent don't

so it's an amazing turnaround and and why and why and why it it was because the great society rewarded families that didn't have a father so it encouraged fathers to leave the home black fathers.

These people, I really truly believe, they didn't change their spot.

How How do you go from, we want to kill all black people to, hey, let's help them out in four years.

And then every single one of your policies cripples people that are black, cripples them, enslaves them.

And then you come out and say some of the most racist stuff I've heard to date.

You know, blacks will never amount to anything unless we let them in without merit.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

And did you see the ratios at Harvard, for instance?

It's just one of the schools that have these ratios, but the admittance rate for blacks up until now was 58% at Harvard.

So 58% of blacks who apply to Harvard get into Harvard.

It was 35% for Hispanics.

I'm not looking at it right in front of me, but I think the white

number was 18%,

and for Asians, 13 or 14%.

So, can I tell you something?

I don't know if you know this, and a lot of people will be shocked by this, but I'm not Asian.

And

even though I'm not Asian,

I have no problem with Asians beating my children

in a race to Harvard.

Asians have a work ethic.

ethic,

generally speaking.

I don't want to be racist.

Generally speaking, they have a work ethic and an education ethic that whites don't have.

Nobody has.

They happen to.

And Indians are very much the same.

They come over here, they work really hard.

I don't know about you, but when I look up from the operating table as they're putting the mask over my face, I don't want to see the guy who's like, yeah,

I didn't pass any of the tests, but I got into medical school.

And then count back to 10.

No, no, no.

I want the most qualified person.

When I drive over a bridge, I don't care the color of the person's skin that designed it.

I want to make sure they were the best in their class.

I want to make sure they didn't just slip in because of their color.

What is so racist about that?

It makes no sense.

We will never go to space again

if we just take people who are not qualified and move them, move them to the top and give them the education and the most qualified not give the education.

And I don't care what color you are.

And by the way, I apologize for saying we went to space.

We'll never go to space again.

We clearly never went to space.

That was Hollywood.

That was definitely Hollywood.

Oh, my gosh.

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Yesterday, I went in.

Do we have the video of this?

I went into the

into the museum and they really, honestly, they will not let me in.

And I'm like, but it's my stuff.

And they're like, don't go in, Glenn.

You talk too much and you bog things down and then it all falls apart.

And so, But I wanted to watch the reaction, especially of kids.

I wanted to watch and see what people are connecting with and what we can do better.

So I went in disguise.

If you're watching Blaze TV, do you have the video?

There it is.

Here we go, Grandpa.

There I am.

It's going to be this way.

I'm in a wheelchair and a wig.

Okay, on a wheel ride.

And I'm wearing a COVID mask.

And for some reason, in 100-degree temperatures, I have a blanket on my lap.

But

I went through the whole museum and

I watched everybody and

most importantly, I watched the docents, some of which work for me, some don't.

They're just local people from local kids

from

St.

George.

And they were amazing, really amazing.

And I got all the way through and nobody spotted it except for one person.

And he was a teenager.

And I saw him kind of glance my way.

And then he rushed over to his mom and said, Mom, I think that's Glenn Beck.

And then it spread, and I had to beat it in the wheelchair, man.

We were like, take off.

But it's a fun experience.

Make sure you join us.

Join us here.

Are you?

Mike Gray is joining us.

Are you actually leading some of the

showing people around, right?

Aren't you doing some of them?

So here's the problem.

Generally, they would like people to get through it in about 90 minutes.

Oh, and it would be

there for four and a half, five hours, six hours.

No.

Explaining things.

A little more than that.

I did one tour.

No, I did one tour, and it was about three hours and 15 minutes.

I bet.

And the line backed up, and I'm like, but there's so much to tell.

And they're like, shut

up

and move on.

So unfortunately, I don't get the opportunity to do it.

Man, that is unfortunate

because you know this stuff better than pretty much anybody does.

What is your favorite ⁇ what would be your favorite

item that you have at the display?

I don't know.

There's so many.

One of my favorite new items

is the

letter from a little girl named Svetlana who wrote to her dad an official document.

She's like seven years old.

It's all in crayon.

And it basically says in Russian,

stop, you must stop killing people.

And it was given to her dad on his birthday, and he signed it.

And he signed it with his name, Joseph Stalin.

It's wow.

Incredible document.

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Joe Biden was right on point,

talking about abortion.

And his point of view is

interesting,

but

he's speaking from the standpoint of a very devout Catholic.

That's the thing.

And when I say very

devout Catholic, I think maybe the kind of Catholic that runs the Vatican Bank.

Other than that, probably not so Catholic.

Here's what he said yesterday.

So I'm, you know, I happen to be a practicing Catholic.

I'm not big on abortion, but guess what?

Roe B.

Wade got it right.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

I bet the Pope feels that.

Although this Pope might.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Roe v.

Wade cut in a place where the vast majority of religions have reached an agreement.

Historically, the first three months or thereabouts in all major religions was

that's between a woman and her doctor.

Can I tell you how many times have you read Jesus?

that's between you and your doctor.

Want to kill a baby?

Three months, first three months, I'm going to give it to you.

Whatever.

I mean, what's your doctor say?

Yeah.

Did you counsel with your doctor?

Because in that eventuality, whatever you want to do is

perfectly fine.

You could counsel with God.

He might have another opinion, but don't.

First three months.

Yeah.

We've all made an agreement.

He goes on.

The next three months is between, I mean, just a woman and her family.

So I guess it has to be.

Just a woman and her family.

Yeah, the doctor's been cut out of that arrangement, I guess, now.

But then he goes.

I don't use the word cut out.

Oh, that's a good point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The next three months, so we're up to the third.

The

third trimester now.

The next three months is between a woman and her doctor.

So it goes back to, forget the family, now you're back to listening to your doctor.

And then

the last three months, now we're up to a year.

We're up to a year.

The last three months have to be negotiated because you can't, unless you're in a position where your physical health is at stake, you can't do it.

So that's, if you're a year pregnant, you may not terminate this.

So if you are carrying a child at 12 months.

Yeah.

Then you can't do it.

You can't do it.

You can't do it.

You can't do an abortion effort.

Unless your health is at stake.

So if you you have like tuberculosis and a three-month-old,

you can kill the child?

Okay.

Yes.

Yes.

Now,

I'm thinking during the fifth trimester, you know,

that's between the mother and her second cousin.

And you leave the doctor out, leave the rest of the family out.

What about the 73rd trimester?

That's between the mother, her favorite sous chef,

and her hairstylist.

So,

where is it?

Is it the 90th trimester where it's between the husband and the mechanic?

No, the husband's never involved.

But the mechanic could be if it's a woman.

If it's a woman.

Okay, so it's between a woman and her female mechanic, but we can't identify the female because we don't know what a female is.

Yeah, that's a

important.

We don't know.

Unless

if you're a biologist and you can't identify the gender of the mechanic,

you bring the biologist in on it as well.

But what if you're a biologist so you can identify a woman, but you don't know what a mechanic is?

Because you'd have to be a biologist mechanic

to be able to identify one.

Right.

So it gets very dicey very dicey time goes on it does by the time the kid's 26 it's almost impossible to abort it yeah but i mean you still could sure but you'd have to figure out the whole choice right it's a

yeah it's a mechanic's right to choose at that point right right okay good

so could i just ask when did

all could you read the first part of the first three months again yeah uh roe v wade cut in a place where the vast majority of religions have reached an agreement.

Historically, the first three months or thereabouts in all major religions was that's between a woman and her doctor.

Now, can I ask when they held this meeting?

Yeah, the major religions.

All major religions get together to agree.

That was Vatican 9, I think.

It was Vatican 9.

where they not they didn't just decide catholic doctrine but they invited all other religions in and all religions

and they couldn't come to an agreement so they said you know what let's leave this to a woman and uh her doctor in this case okay yeah all right okay that's weird because usually they would say and a priest

yes but but they don't have female priests so you can't include them uh

so okay so i don't remember vatican nine um but historically,

I think where churches fell was

the first three months

is the time before the quickening.

And when you

couldn't be charged.

Well, no, it wasn't.

The quickening was when the woman first said the baby moved.

That was the,

that's what the quickening was.

That was the time that someone back historically could, I mean, I know, you know, in caveman days, all the churches agreed on an ultrasound.

But when the quickening happened, the baby moved, then the woman or somebody who, let's say, you know, beat her up or pushed her down the stairs or whatever would be held for murder after the quickening.

Before that,

you didn't have verification.

So

that I hate to bring that up to Joe Biden because he is such a good Catholic.

Oh, you know, man.

Yeah.

He is.

He goes to Mass every day.

That's how Catholic he is.

Every day.

Wow.

Yeah.

And it's weird because his son goes to hookers like three times a day.

Yeah.

Every day.

And that's

wow.

He's pretty devoted.

Worshiping.

Yeah.

He's pretty devoted to hookers.

Uh-huh.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

he's very devoted to the hookers, or anybody, really, that he's sniffing cocaine off the belly of.

He's devoted to any of those people, so right, could be anybody, yeah, could be uh Buddhist because all religions could be involved in that, right?

Well, that's good.

Um, I'm glad we I'm glad we got that uh bit of information from uh Joe Biden.

Did you see him uh yesterday kind of waddle to the uh door in

the White House.

He was making a statement about affirmative.

Yeah, he was making a statement about affirmative action.

He's in the White House, and he slowly walks away from the podium and then stands there at the door.

I mean,

I've seen

more intelligence in my dog when he's standing at the door going, I got to go outside.

At least there's something behind those eyes.

Watch this.

Yeah, you have it.

You played it in

the four-minute buzz.

But okay, so then the player is the Supreme Court is prone to question its own legitimacy.

Is this a rogue court?

Not normal, and then I need my pudding.

I don't know.

It's nummy time.

at nighttime.

And

the president brings my pills in every day.

Nice.

You are the president.

You are the president.

No, it's a nice black woman that comes in and she gives me my nummies.

So

that's great.

Then he was on MSNBC, and after the interview, he just decided to get up.

Yeah, even before the interview ended, this is fun.

Mr.

President, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Don't go anywhere.

It's a very exciting day around here.

He's just

embarrassing.

It's embarrassing me.

Well, you know, at this point, at least we can laugh about it.

I mean, because we would be crying

if we weren't laughing about it.

But

I mean, are these warning signs?

Are these warning signs

any Democrats?

Is anybody concerned on the left about the shape this guy is in?

We see this stuff every day and we comment on it, but it seems like everybody else on the left is ignoring it.

You do not have to do that.

I think I have to tell you.

The left, yeah, the left is different than the average Democrat, I think.

The average Democrat, the one that just, you know, is our neighbor.

Yeah.

I think they're just as concerned about it as we are, and they think the same thing that we do.

Kamala Harris.

Yeah.

No.

That is the problem.

Stay in.

Just stay alive, Joe.

Just stay alive.

That's the best insurance policy I've ever seen.

I think that's why he picked her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you'd be really

America.

You want her?

No.

No.

Nope.

I'm with you, Joe.

I'm with you.

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The Supreme Court has made a decision

about the web designer who designs

things for weddings and whatnot.

And so the gay couple went to him, and he didn't want to do it.

And they just ruled in his favor.

Is that amazing?

In the web designers?

Yes.

Oh, thank God.

Let me read you

the first paragraph from the AP in a defeat for gay rights.

Is it, though, is it really a defeat for gay rights?

This is a victory for the rights of all citizens.

Everybody.

Yes, we're afraid of the right.

First of all, can I just ask,

if I were going to have a wedding and somebody said, I hate Glenn Beck, and there are lots of those people.

I hate Glenn Beck.

I'm not making a cake for Glenn Beck's wedding.

I wouldn't want the guy to make my cake.

I'm sorry to be sexist or the woman, but then if I would have said woman, why would you say woman?

Because she's in the kitchen all the time, so there's no way to win.

But I don't, I mean, I wouldn't want them.

Why, other than making a point, you know, the poor cake master guy in Colorado?

Yeah.

He's going back to the Supreme Court.

That guy has spent 15

years of his life battling this.

It's insane.

And who knows how many hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars

have been involved there, too?

In one of these cases,

they lost their shop.

They had to do something else.

They lost their home.

But

this particular ruling, the Supreme Court's conservative majority ruled today that a Christian graphic artist who wants to design wedding websites can refuse to work with same-sex couples.

Court ruled six to three for designer Lori Smith, despite a Colorado law that bars discrimination based on sexual orientation, race, gender, and other characteristics.

Smith had argued that the law violates her free speech rights.

Absolutely, it did.

Smith's opponents warned that a win for her would allow a range of businesses to discriminate, refusing to serve black, Jewish, or Muslim customers.

Nonsense.

Interracial.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

First of all, first of all,

if there is a restaurant, I mean, and there were restaurants in,

there was the

Coffee Cup Cafe in someplace in Texas, and each word was spelled with a K.

Very subtle.

And it was very uncomfortable, and everything was made to be uncomfortable for blacks.

You know what?

If that's what they want to do, I want to make sure I know what business that is.

And people just won't go.

Right.

And, you know, you want to be racist, be racist.

But, you know, I ain't going to your place.

And I don't know anybody who does.

And anybody who is sitting and I'm driving by and I see you were having coffee at the KKK place.

I know who you are now as well.

Yeah.

Let the free market sort it all out.

Hopefully that business would go out of business.

But they write, Neil Gorsuch wrote: The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to think and speak as they wish, not as the government demands.

The

dissent was written by Sonia Sotomayor.

Today, the court, for the first time in its history, grants a business open to the public a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class.

No, that's not true.

No, wait a minute, it's not true.

That they are not saying, at least in the cake thing,

you can't,

I won't make a cake for you.

Right.

I won't make a wedding cake for you.

She's not saying, I won't take pictures for you.

I won't take pictures of your wedding for you.

You cannot compel speech.

That is the thing that makes us America.

And everybody misunderstands the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights is only written down because

sometimes it's tough.

Sometimes people are saying things that you don't like.

People say things I don't like all the time.

I get over it or I debate them.

You know, it's not less speech.

It's more speech.

That's why we have the Bill of Rights.

You don't ever have to go to court to to protect, I love pudding.

I mean, maybe in the case of Bill Cosby, but I think that was a little different.

You don't have to protect things that aren't controversial, that aren't tough.

You don't need the Bill of Rights for those things.

You need the Bill of Rights for that lone individual that says things that you hate.

Today in St.

George,

they've shipped in a bunch of people, bust them in from all over the West to do a trans

show in one of the parks here.

And there's a big,

there's a big counter protest that is planned.

Why?

Why?

These people are not part of the community.

They're being bussed in for a reason.

They want to stir up trouble.

They want to get all kinds of press for it.

Why waste your time going down there?

They're not from your community.

Let them come in, do their thing, and go, gee, I thought that would end differently,

and move on to another community where hopefully they'll be ignored there as well.

Or if they're in their own community where it's accepted, okay.

Right.

We are

we are

missing

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We don't have to like it.

In fact, that's the point.

There's going to be a lot of things that people say that we don't like.

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We were just talking about

Dylan Mulvaney off air.

He has come out of hiding.

I mean, I feel bad for him.

I do from for what he has gone through.

But

it amazes me how these people on the left always think

that they're the only ones that get any heat.

I've had to have security in my life at times living in my house

for,

gosh, almost 20 years now.

And

it

blows my mind when they

have any pushback at all.

They immediately think they are victims.

I don't think, I hope that you've heard me complain much.

There are times when it gets a little much, but I mean,

they tried to run me out of business.

I started my own network because I couldn't work at any of the, I had a deal with ABC.

Do you remember this?

Sure, do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had a deal with ABC and Good Morning America, and we were going to do,

what's her name, Diane Sawyer came to me and said, I want to reinvent nighttime news.

I'm going to do the anchoring at night.

And I want you to do a new show in the way you do shows

in the place of Nightline.

And had a contract started with ABC, Good Morning America.

It lasted exactly one day.

And that's because Care

threatened to boycott the mouse.

Now, if you ask ABC, they'll say, no, we just, we just, we didn't, we didn't cancel it.

What are you talking about?

We just didn't have any time or any place to put Glenn.

I only appeared after I told the story

on air about two months into that contract.

If you're a long-time listener, you remember Diane Sawyer coming on to the show to announce it.

And that was the last time I talked to to Diane Sawyer because Kara got involved.

Okay, so I'll go out and start my own network.

What's the big deal?

They

cannot, they immediately fall victim and can't think their way through anything.

And they think such a,

such an un-American movement has happened to them.

Well, gang,

that's what happens to conservatives all the time.

We're called monsters, terrorists, everything else.

You know,

it's a two-way street here.

And I don't want anybody treated like conservatives are treated, quite honestly, by the left.

I don't want to treat the left this way.

But here's Dylan Mulvaney on

Bud Light.

Listen.

I posted a sponsored video to my page, and it must have been a slow news week because the way that this ad got blown up, you would have thought I was like on a billboard or or on a TV commercial or something major.

But no, it was just an Instagram video.

And the wildest part is that they also sent me one can with my face on it.

You might have seen it.

And funny story, I had the can around my house, but then I realized, wait, I need to protect this can.

So I hid it somewhere.

And now I can't find it because I hid it so well.

But when I do find it, I feel like it needs to go in a museum, preferably behind bulletproof glass.

Okay, that's a little overdone.

But Dylan, I would love to have that can.

I think that can is a huge part of American history, and it would remain behind glass.

I mean,

we don't put our copy of the Declaration of Independence behind bulletproof glass,

but we do put everything behind glass because the left keeps throwing paint at things.

So it would remain behind glass, and I would take it seriously.

I would love in our museum to have that Bud Light can because that is a major point in American history.

No question about it.

I mean, Bud Light is still, is still experiencing the lingering effects of that decision.

And it went down, their sales went down 28.5%

again which was more than the month before so yeah it's huge the guy who's running bud the ceo is now saying he'd do it again yeah man he'd do it again and that's all because of esg they don't care about you

they if they if they decided to say we're against all of this stuff now

their shares would go down even more.

And I contend that

easily would have, they'd lose funding from banking.

They would face all kinds of boycotts.

And large, major corporations would stop doing business with them.

They would lose more.

And, you know, it's funny because the individual says, I don't want to take pictures of a gay wedding.

And that is an absolute crime.

But

isn't what's happening here here the same thing, except on a much more massive scale?

Isn't

we

don't accept any other opinion than this opinion, and we'll boycott and destroy through ESG every other opinion?

It's the same thing.

Except it's more destructive.

One side is just saying, I personally don't want to do this.

The other side is saying, you will do this or I will destroy you.

Gosh, which one sounds American and

which one sounds like totalitarianism?

Yeah.

Who's the real fascist here?

It's pretty clear.

I want to tell you:

yesterday, I had Michael Afallon on, and

he's a guy who

runs a large,

I don't know what you would call it,

a service where he is taking tours of, you know, large tours of people and doing conferences and everything else around the world and teaching history while he's doing it.

He was on yesterday.

He was talking about

how the tourist industry is going to change, that the plan is that you're not going to travel.

And we told you about the Vanity Fair article that just came out that is now being super snotty and telling the people who read Vanity Fair,

they should just call that person, but they printed something in Vanity Fair for that person to read

that says,

you're being very selfish and you're being very shallow and

you think you're You think you're educated and elite because you travel,

but the opposite is true.

You're small-minded if you travel.

It is the most bizarre thing, but they are trying to get you to now look at traveling the world or the country as a bad thing.

So let me tell you about Johnny.

Johnny is an explorer by nature, loves to explore.

By the time he was able to crawl, he was investigating the dark recesses of the master closet.

He was was always into something.

Once he could walk, they found him devising a plan to get into the attic.

He's 16 now and he's talking about going to the moon.

He's talking about hiking the Grand Canyon, cave diving in Mexico.

And his mother notices this.

She thinks, that's dangerous.

That is really super dangerous.

So she rushes to the store.

She comes home with a VR headset.

She sneaks into her son's bedroom while he's asleep and straps the headset to him while he is asleep.

When he wakes up, he finds himself on the moon.

And he never leaves his room again.

Thankfully, he has a mother who cares for him.

And so he's on an endless adventure in the metaverse.

Johnny is safe.

And isn't that what adventuring and exploring is all about?

Safety.

Now,

this sounds insane,

but this is exactly where we're headed.

Don't explore.

Don't go anywhere.

Just explore on the internet in your own room.

Let me read a line from an actual article from MSNBC that came after the Titan submersible tragedy.

Okay.

This is from MSNBC.

Quote, I think this tragic incident affords us an opportunity.

In fact, it gives us a mandate to devise safe ways for people to satisfy their adventurous spirits and educational urges.

The article goes on, as people consider safer ways to explore.

I know that's what Columbus was all about.

I know that's what the Wright brothers, they were like, yeah, sure, we can fly, we can build a plane, but is it safe?

The article goes on, as people consider safer ways to explore.

I can't help but think this terrifying scenario is precisely why the concept of the metaverse, that is, a virtual world reachable through a wearable device, will never die.

America, this is one of the choices you have to make.

This is where we're headed.

The death of adventure, the death of exploration in exchange for safety.

So you can forget the next Alan Shepard.

You can forget the next Daniel Boone.

You can forget the next Christopher Columbus.

Just put your kid behind a screen or in glasses until they become the people of Wally.

Thank God there is

no VR at the time of Lewis and Clark, because what they did definitely wasn't safe.

VR will not satisfy anything.

It won't satisfy our natural desire to explore, but it might strangle it to death in the crib.

People who would travel the world and keep them safely in their home will be the death of exploration.

The fundamental question that we have to ask ourselves is,

are giant corporations in charge?

Is government in charge?

Are we going to be told what to do and how to do it at all times?

Or do we ever grow up and not have someone who wants to be our parent telling us exactly what to do, when to do it?

And the other is,

how do we have human experiences when we're in a world of VR and that's being pushed in our era?

What are we willing to allow tech to replace in our lives?

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You know, it's amazing to me how

the right and left have flipped on so many things.

And, I mean, I understand

the right's journey.

I can't make sense of the left's journey at all.

For instance, they've always said the FBI is corrupt and dangerous and spying on people and harassing people.

And

now

the right agrees with them and they've suddenly got off of that.

And the evidence is more than ever before, at least that I can remember.

And they've abandoned that.

It's really bizarre.

But in Idaho, the GOP has just passed a resolution condemning the FBI and calling for its abolition.

That's remarkable.

We have an Idaho State Senator, Tammy Nichols, on with us in 60 seconds.

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Tammy Nichols.

She is an Idaho state senator.

Tammy, how are you?

I am well.

Thank you for having me on, Glenn.

You're welcome.

How did this bill come about and what does it mean?

Well, you know, in Idaho, we've had our fair share of things that have happened in our state going back to the Ruby Ridge siege with the Weavers back in the

early 90s.

And

in my district, District 10, we have very engaged people here that are involved in the Republican Party, involved in the conservative movement.

And we've just seen the things that have been transpiring across the nation, in our state, in regards to the weaponization of government and more specifically, the FBI.

So, several of my constituents here got together and put together this resolution to present at our summer meeting for the state GOP.

We weren't sure how far it would get.

We weren't sure if it would get any pushback, but it actually sailed right through.

We had some really good resolutions that actually passed this last summer meeting.

But this was one of them, and this is one that has really picked up steam in the media because it is so straightforward and it really hits on the issues that are transpiring in our government.

Okay, so before we get into the resolution and what has to happen and what it means,

tell people

in abbreviated form as much as you can, what happened with Ruby Ridge.

Most Americans think of Ruby Ridge and they think

whatever, because That's how it was sold to the American people.

Oh, it's some gun nut up in the woods.

Tell us what happened.

happened, Ruby Ridge.

Well, basically, and I was really young when it actually transpired, but I remember watching the news on what was going on and even thinking back then, you know, why is this happening?

You know,

you had an issue with

a sawed-off shotgun, and

the weavers went up to their cabin, just wanted to be left alone, basically, and

started being surveilled by the FBI.

there was uh issues going on they wanted him to Randy Weaver to turn himself in

and there ended up being a standoff

and Tammy if I'm not mistaken the saw-off shotgun was

entrapment

it was the FBI agent trying to get him to saw off this shotgun for him he sawed it off in a legal way And then the FBI agent said, no, can you add another quarter inch or something like that?

He did and then tried to arrest him, right?

Right.

It was used

as a tool to, yes, as an entrapment.

And so the standoff ensued.

And

the wife of Randy Weaver ended up getting shot.

There was a bunch of things that transpired, but there was a standoff that took place.

And people died.

And

it never needed to happen.

That did not need to transpire the way that that it did.

And we see that happening in different areas.

Right.

And if I remember right, it did go to court, and the FBI was excoriated, I believe, in the verdict.

And

we never seem to learn the lesson.

The FBI never seems to learn the lesson.

And it happens over and over and over again.

And it's getting much worse.

Correct.

Well, and in this resolution, we put in, there's several examples that are put in.

I mean, you have the Ruby Ridge, you have the Waco, Texas, you have different programs that the FBI have put together, like Cointel Pro

that transpired.

And we're going back, you know, to the early 50s.

So this has been going on for a long time.

And then we have more recent things that have transpired, such as parents speaking out at the school board meetings that have been put under surveillance.

So there's all these issues that are continuing.

And you're right.

Our government doesn't seem to learn the lesson.

I was just back in DC just a couple of months ago with

another organization to talk to Jim Jordan's committee and those that are on it about what's transpiring with the weaponization of government, how NGOs are being utilized to put people on lists and that the government is utilizing those lists and people don't even know they're on that.

And then we have the FBI with what they've been doing with the surveillance, with what's happened with parents that are speaking out at the school board meetings, what's happened with President Trump.

And so we have all these things that are transpiring transpiring where we just have an entity that is out of control, government overreach, and not staying within their jurisdiction of the Constitution.

We're talking to Idaho State Senator Tammy Nichols about a GOP resolution that has just passed condemning the FBI and calling for its abolition.

So it it moves from the GOP.

Will it actually become a resolution

that you think can pass?

Yeah, well, you know, as a senator, you know, my desire and how it should work is that the things that are passed at the state party GOP meetings should translate over to the legislative session.

And, you know, like in this last one, we had 26 different resolutions that passed.

So now those 26 should come over through the legislative process into actual pieces of legislation or legislative resolutions.

So what we're hoping transpires with this, and I'm a co-chair of the Idaho Freedom Caucus, and my members are very excited about this sort of pieces of legislation that could come into play.

So what we're hoping to get out of this is that we would like to see other states also run similar resolutions at their state party level.

And then also, you know, because we say in this resolution that if the FBI cannot be reformed, then we do support an abolition of this government agency.

So we're kind of trying to give that incentive first

to reform, but we don't have a very good track record that's transpired with this.

So the next step is to call for the abolition.

So how is the state going to pressure, I mean, what do you have

to use as leverage to get them to reform?

Well, Well, first, this resolution is going to be sent to our

senators and our congressmen in D.C.

So we want them to know that this is something that the state, GOP as a whole, is wanting to see transpire.

And we're going to be looking to them, of course, to help try to lead that or to start putting the pressure on the federal government to rein in the FBI.

If that is not the case, then the states ha have sovereignty.

The states can exercise their sovereignty.

And we see that happening in all sorts of other forms where states

do things that

the federal government may not like or like with drugs or with illegal immigration or any of that sort of stuff, that the states exercise their sovereignty.

And that's really what we're getting to now.

The federal government is not doing their job.

The states are the ones that give the power, the control to the federal government.

And so the states need to start exercising their sovereignty and saying, we are not participating in this anymore.

They're not welcome in the state.

If the FBI comes to the state, then our sheriffs, our constitutional sheriffs, need to exercise their authority.

But

we need to put our federal government, our congressmen, and our senators on notice that this is what we want to see transpire.

And if it does not happen, the states need to start exercising their sovereignty to say, we're not participating in this anymore, or

we are going to regain our control and our authority to say enough is enough and do that through legislation.

I have to tell you, I think this is the bravest legislation in any state that I have seen yet.

I mean,

this is powerful.

How much pushback are you getting from the people in the state?

And

are you worried about federal pushback at all?

You know, so far we haven't received a lot of pushback in our state.

Again, this is a resolution that we weren't even sure how far it was going to get, and it wasn't one that we thought was going to actually get a lot of attention.

But the more it's getting out there, I've had actually people from different parts of the country contacting me because of things that have happened to them and their

situations that they've had dealing with the FBI.

So that's been very interesting to me to see the people actually become aware of what's transpiring and that we actually ran this.

And so, yeah, I'm hoping-I mean, we might get pushed back on the federal level, but so be it, because we have an out-of-control agency that is acting with outside of the Constitution, outside of their authority.

And

we have to retain that, we have to get that back under control.

So, so be it.

I hope that you have enough people

in the legislature that

have clean lives because that's the way the FBI has gotten away with it for so long.

They'll gather information on people, this is what Hoover did, and then use it against them and

blackmail them into siding with them.

So I hope you have enough in the legislature that are

that fear their God more than they fear the United States,

the

FBI.

Yeah, you know, I, and we know that there are tools that are utilized to get people to do things.

And again, that's why we put the examples that are in this resolution so that people are aware that these are the things that have transpired in the past, these are the things that have transpired recently, and that we have a problem that we need to get back under control.

Tammy Nichols, the Idaho state senator,

a part of the Freedom Caucus in Idaho.

Thanks for being on.

And I'm a proud resident of the state, part-time, but I'm a proud resident and landowner in Idaho.

And I'm counting on you guys keeping it free.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

You bet.

I have to tell you, I would love to hear from

other states that are considering joining them.

the way to make this happen

is a bunch of states doing this.

You know, what's really crazy is, Pat, how many times have we heard about, oh, there's a constitutional crisis?

This is going to put us in a constitutional crisis.

I've heard that my whole life.

Whenever they say,

you know, Bill Clinton had a cigar in his eye.

That's a constitutional crisis.

We are in constitutional crisis right now, and nobody seems to be talking about it.

It's absolutely bizarre.

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I want to

spend a few minutes with an old friend that I haven't seen in a long time, but I've been watching your career for quite some time, John Irwin.

Great to see you.

How are you?

It has been, you know, in entertainment,

it's such a fast business.

You're making products.

And with the fast, you know, past few years

we've gone through, I'm like, I haven't had time to hang out

in years.

I know, I know.

And it seems like yesterday.

And you have, John Irwin, in case you don't know, has produced you just your last one was Jesus Revolution and Jesus Revolution.

Thank you for some of the interviews you did.

You've always been so good to promote the films.

And once again,

it shocked the industry and really performed at over $50 million.

And I'm just very grateful to the audience.

We did American Underdog before that.

Such a good movie.

I can only imagine in 2018.

Again, such a good movie.

And we just love telling true stories.

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I live in Nashville today.

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that had Jesus on the cover and talked about this hippie spiritual awakening and called it the Jesus Revolution.

I just, we love true stories that bring a rush of hope to the audience.

And I think people need it now more than ever.

When we first met, I don't even know, 10 years ago, we were talking about how bad Christian films were.

Remember, they were very preachy and, you know, just club you over the head.

You've really cracked the code and mastered it.

What did Ryan Reynolds say?

Like, you have to, before you can do something well, you have to have the courage to do it badly.

So maybe maybe there was a time, it's a privilege to be a part of anything that's sort of emerging and forging.

Um, I remember Sean Aston told me once, he's like, you guys are like frontiersmen.

I'm like, thank you, Sean.

He's like, you know, frontiersmen tend to die on the frontier.

I'm like, well,

the trail will be blazed, man.

But I think that there is a new, there's this revolution of faith and values in the entertainment industry.

in Hollywood at all levels.

I think there's just a lot of people either getting better and better at what they do or people that are great at what they do saying, enough is enough.

I have to align my values with my work and it has to happen now.

You think that is happening?

I feel it at all levels of the industry.

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It's surprising, but I just think that there's a lot of Titans that, you know,

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It does.

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It does.

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We are in St.

George, Utah, for a project called Liberty Village, which is this great project that is going to build Mount Vernon, Independence Hall,

for people of the West.

But it's going to be something that is more than just a recreation.

It is a learning center and a place for families and

young adults and kids to come to and learn about American history and what we really stand for.

I was so excited last night.

John Irwin, who is a friend,

he has produced multiple movies.

In fact, he is,

he is, you are the only one that has four

A-plus cinema scores, right?

So an A-plus cinema score is the grade an audience gives a movie as they leave the theater.

Right.

And there's 105 everybody.

There's a, I was talking to Howard that is the president of Cinema Score, and I was like,

he gave me the best quote.

I'm like, this is, this is a,

I'm grateful for this.

But,

but there's only about two a year.

So last year, I think it was Top Gun and The Woman King, and she's very rare.

And

so with Jesus Revolution, the latest film that we did, it's the fourth A-plus Cinema Score I've got.

And

that's the most

that any single filmmaker has ever gotten.

And I'm grateful.

It just means that

our obsession is to entertain the audience and to give them a wonderful experience at theater, which I'm in awe that they come to.

Just as expensive to go to my movies as it is to go to Top Gun.

And so I'm very, very grateful.

And I'm grateful to, if I hold

any record or whatever, I love it that it's related to a relationship with the audience and just entertaining them and giving them movies that they love.

So

you make the announcement of what you are

now.

Oh, yeah, we're making it here.

It's, it's, uh, you know,

sometimes I remember with Jesus Revolution, I bought that magazine eight years ago and fell in love with that story, Time magazine cover.

And, you know, you just dream of telling a story.

The story that I've dreamed about telling for even longer, double that time, I just fell in love.

with, as you did as well.

We share a mutual obsession.

I'm a storyteller.

I'm curious.

And so you get hooked on a story.

And I read book after book after book on the American Revolution and on the founding fathers and incredibly complex characters, incredible story.

It's a story of faith and entrepreneurism and just this incredible moment in time and group of people.

And I've studied it for years, all the way back to a very similar place to Liberty Village.

And I was born and raised in Alabama.

And there's a place called American Village.

And years before we were filmmakers,

we had a production company and that was one of our clients.

And I remember going there and just watching these recreations of American history.

And, you know, a light bulb went off.

And I think America is the greatest idea in the history of nations.

And it's stewarded to us.

And it's an experiment.

And it's a hard story to learn if you want to learn it.

You have to read a lot of books.

And so I thought, why can there not be a multi-season TV series that really gets it right and shares multiple perspectives and tells the story of how this country came to be.

Good and bad.

Good and bad, because you realize

when you learn the story and you learn the complexity, the flawed aspect of the characters, what we've gone through as a country, that we are stewarded with this incredible and fragile experiment that we're still perfecting and

or or ought to.

And so I just think the stories are incredible.

As a storyteller, I love true stories.

The stories are unbelievable and

inspiring.

And I just, I came out of a long time of research with this incredible sense of awe and wonder.

And I'm like, there needs to be, sometimes there's one, we were talking about there's one aspect of it, like John Adams, which I really loved, but you don't get the whole picture.

And I thought, why can't there be a multi-season TV show with some movies in between that just tells the story?

of the founding of our country and why we're here and the people that forged the nation that we're in today and all of the problems that they endured and things that they

that they suffered and things that they triumphed over

along the way.

And I just feel passionate about what George Washington called the divine hand, that this movie, that this country is indeed a miracle.

The fact that it's here at all is incredible.

And I want to tell that story.

And I've wanted to tell that story for years.

So I started talking to Angel Studios that crowdfunds shows, crowdfunded the chosen, and incredibly innovative.

They have a movie, Sound of Freedom, that's really good and coming out here soon.

Yeah, next week.

And we just started talking about a mutual obsession and the mutual love of these stories.

And very quickly, we're like, let's just do a series on this.

And so we announced it last night that that's one of the next projects that I'm launching into.

When will that hit?

The goal is next year.

The goal is next year.

The goal is to really hit the gas.

When I'm passionate about a story, I want to just go do it.

And the goal is to have the first iterations of this next year.

Now, this will be a multi-year adventure.

Oh, sure.

It's like the chosen.

That's exactly right.

But we need this story now.

I know.

I think when we need it, you know, the best thing about the chosen is

it's not your typical story of Jesus.

It shows the flaws.

It shows the apostles, unlike I've ever seen them before.

First of all, they don't all strangely have English accents, which is very nice.

But that kind of character development is

used to be very, very rare.

And if you can capture that in a series, I mean, that's a.

Well, Dallas has done, he's a great friend and great collaborator and great partner.

And he has really brought such authenticity to biblical stories.

And what happens is when you watch The Chosen, you can't help but first of all, watch it as a family.

And secondly, you can't help but talk about the stories.

You can't help but go read the Bible and just say, wow, I've never thought about it.

I'm thinking about this in a whole new way.

That's exactly what we want to do with the founding of America.

So

who is the driving character?

What is

any idea yet?

I mean,

one of my great life obsessions, as is yours,

is George Washington.

I just think that

there's never been a real exploration of his life.

Isn't that weird?

It's unbelievable to me.

That's the character that I fell most in love with and read the most books on and was just thoroughly fascinated by his leadership and his character and his complexities.

And so I would say that Washington will be the central figure in the series.

There is

down in the museum downstairs

in the revolutionary time, there are the four black patriots that we decided to highlight.

And most people, it's crazy to me that people say there's, you know,

black people didn't have a role in America.

In the Revolutionary War, they did, for sure.

Sure did.

They sure did.

I mean, Crispus Attics, the first guy that is killed at the Boston massacre.

So it starts with the first victim being him.

Then you have Peter Salem at Bunker Hill, who allows, by his bravery, allows our army to escape.

Otherwise, we would have been done.

But as we were saying, retreat, retreat, he decided to move forward.

And he shot

the commander of the British Army.

saved the day.

And that famous painting of Bunker Hill, they are now teaching in school because Peter Salem is off to the side and it looks like he's hiding behind a white guy.

They're now teaching that that's not even Peter Salem.

That's just how people looked at black people as they were cowards.

Then you don't understand the story at all.

Well, as I understand it, the Revolutionary War represented

the most integrated army until Vietnam.

Oh, yeah.

And it's an incredible story.

And a lot of what they were, I liked, you've got incredible memorabilia.

I literally held George Washington's spectacles last night.

It was the highlight of my year

that you own.

But, you know, the other thing that you highlighted was the paragraph that Jefferson wanted in the Declaration of Independence about the evils of slavery.

And so to understand how they were grappling with these issues and how they knew what they had to deal with, how to figure out how to do it.

How do we not understand that in 100 years from now, I think people will say, how did these people in 2020 not stop abortion?

How did they not see that that was murder?

Yeah, I think, and we're trying, just like they were, and how progressives don't understand,

unless you want war, you have to take it one bite at a time.

That's what Lincoln understood.

Yes.

That's what the founding fathers understood, that you have to own, what progress can I make in my time?

Correct.

That sets up what Jefferson called the work of future generations and the work of better men.

And we build on each other's work.

And that's one of the things that I think I really want to highlight in the material.

And I think a lot of the problems, in my opinion, that we're facing as a culture are just the fact that we don't understand our origin story and we don't understand why we're here and we don't understand how

unbelievable it is that this country exists at all.

At all.

all.

And I think there would be great worth in just giving an accurate and visceral and entertaining account of the founding

of the country.

I think it'll make us all,

I hope, it'll replace a feeling of disdain with a feeling of awe and wonder.

And this place is not perfect at all, but it is, again, it's just, in my opinion, the greatest idea in the history of nations.

And it's it's stewarded to us.

And the stories are, I'm an entertainer.

The stories are incredible, you know?

Fantastic.

So I can't wait to launch into it.

And it's my next great obsession.

So

are you going to be crowdfunding?

How do people get involved?

Yeah, it's angel.com slash founders, right?

Angel.com slash founders is a site that we created last night.

This thing

came to pass.

I'll I'll tell you this.

I've worked on a few projects.

I can only imagine, certainly Jesus Revolution, where you just feel,

again, what Washington called a divine hand.

You feel like a supernatural will behind an idea.

And I feel that with this, that

there's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

And

I just think that

it just feels like there's a there's a it feels like being strapped to a rocket.

And uh and and I think this is a project that that America America needs and

that the world needs.

And I just love the stories and I'm honored to tell them.

And I'm grateful that the audience, once again, I think I shared last night a lot of the headlines with Jesus Revolution read, you know, heartland faith audience shocks the industry again.

At some point, the industry can't be shocked.

This is a large, underserved audience.

And they've spoken so loudly on our films that it gives us an opportunity to tell stories like this, to tell them well, and to tell them accurately.

And I just can't wait to get started.

Especially with the 300th anniversary of a.

It's 300, right?

250.

250.

250.

That's right.

That's right.

What is it?

200?

20

quincentennials.

It's some really long, hard word.

I was thinking that it was 250 when I was growing up, but it was.

It was 200.

Now it's 250 and it's just around the corner.

And it doesn't seem like anything is being prepared.

You know, nothing is being done.

This is going to come at just the right time.

I think the founding fathers' greatest fear was, can this country endure?

And even all the way to Lincoln, can this

government conceived this way of the people long endure?

And that has been the question.

Can we hold the nation together and can we stay together as a people?

And I have not felt more...

more in my lifetime, a time when we're just as divided as we are.

And I think stories, there's a work to stories to bring us back together and

to celebrate what we hold in common.

And

I just think it's a worthy thing to do.

And I feel an incredible level of urgency to tell the story well and to tell the story right now.

And

I think we need it.

And I think we'll learn from it.

I mean, anybody who wants to create anything

that's worthy, whether that's a company or a product or, you know, or run for office or whatever, whatever, needs to study these stories.

I mean, these were some of the greatest thinkers, greatest minds, greatest writers, complex people, flawed people.

But it's an amazing story about a group of

ordinary flawed people, some with extraordinary gifts, coming together at a unique moment in time and doing something that would outlive them all.

And I think we can all learn from them.

If you would like to be a part of it,

five bucks, five million bucks, whatever you want to do, it is angel.com slash founders slash founders.

Angel.com slash founders.

I cannot wait.

Well, let's do it together.

I think we share an obsession, and it's time to bring it to the screen.

It is exciting.

And thank you for letting me hold George Washington's glasses.

That was the highlight of my year, sir.

Thank you.

I'm grateful.

John Irwin, again, the address to be involved in this series on the founders, angel.com slash founders.

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Well, I tell you, it's been a couple of really good days with the Supreme Court.

Today, they decided that the photographer does not have, does not force to take pictures of gay weddings if they don't want to.

Student loans with Joe Biden struck down.

Yesterday, affirmative action.

I mean, it has been a remarkable week.

If you happen to be conservative and a constitutionalist, if you happen to be Joe Biden, it definitely is going to mean that...

You're going to be on the war path and trying to pack the court soon, I'm sure.

Have a safe weekend.

We will see you back here Monday.

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