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Well, hello, America.

Welcome to the Glen Back Program.

We're glad you're here.

We're going to start with the world being upside down.

Why not?

We're here.

We're queer.

We're coming for your children.

Let's just talk about that for a second because NBC sheds some new light on that.

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Hell, hello, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

Do you come for your children yet?

Ah, well, I'm fine.

Children

are on vacation.

They're with their grandparents, so I don't know.

My gosh, they may have come already for them.

And we're old.

We're grandparents, and we're coming for your children.

Oh, my God.

They took them from the airport, Glenn.

My dad, right at the airport.

You know who it is?

I bet it was the grandparents of that guy that steals luggage.

You know, the guy who was in a nuclear.

Yeah.

Samuel Brinton.

I'm old.

I'm the grandparent of that guy who I can't remember that used to work

at the nuclear thing.

And I'm coming for your children's suitcases.

Over the weekend, everybody's been talking about this video that has been circulating, New York City Pride March.

We're coming, we're coming for your children.

The chant has apparently,

according to many, has been used

for years.

And

it's almost a tradition now.

Gay rights activists, they use these expressions to,

you know, to counter the slurs against LGBTQ people.

Now,

I would just like to point out to anybody who is on the right,

if you're marching, the slur is always that you're some sort of a Nazi or something.

Let's not say we're here, we're Nazis, we're coming for the Jews.

I think that would be a very bad thing to do.

Who would do that?

Who would do that?

Now,

I'm going to admit something.

I don't know if I've ever admitted on the air.

But I was young and stupid.

I was probably 25 years old, 24 years old.

And I was on the air in Houston, Texas.

And I was the morning guy.

And I was,

as I said, young and stupid and would do anything for a laugh.

I happen to have a dark sense of humor.

Not everybody does.

I was invited to be on Stu's eyes.

I look over and Stu's eyes are just wide, like, what the hell is coming?

Oh, gosh, I hate when these stories come and I don't know what how they end.

This is this is,

you know, how like they have stories of like you wake up and you're doing a speech and then you look down and you don't have your pants on.

This is the moment I have nightmares about this one.

So

I was invited to

participate in a parade at the Johnson Space Center in Houston.

Now,

I happened to be riding on a giant-like boom box,

which provided me a microphone for the boom box.

And

I was waving, all of these astronauts and everything are all around in cars, you know, in Corvettes or whatever, they're all driving.

And I thought it would be funny if I just said,

hi,

it's all a hoax.

It was all a hoax.

Oh,

that was so fun.

I died laughing until

about a quarter of the way into the parade,

somebody jumped out of a car and said, I'm with the families of the Challenger.

Could you not say that anymore?

And I'm like,

No, I didn't mean you guys.

That was real.

I meant the moon thing.

It was bad.

It was bad.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's a reason nobody knows that story until now.

It's been 40 years to get that story told.

But the only reason why I bring it up is because sometimes people are that stupid.

Okay.

So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that there are stupid people.

And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe

it used to be funny.

Okay.

Amongst yourselves.

It's not funny now.

It hasn't been funny in quite some time.

Especially when people are concerned about their children in schools.

You know, before the drag queens were doing drag queen story hour, before you were telling our children that, you know, hey queen, you can be a queen too, and they're seven,

it might have been funny in some circles.

It is not

funny now.

It is actually very scary.

So can you stop saying it?

Because if you don't stop saying it, we have to take you seriously.

You know, that's kind of a,

I don't know,

kind of a safety tip that I like.

When someone threatens you or your family, I take you seriously.

If I wo, you know what wouldn't have been funny?

Hey, NASA astronauts, I'm coming for your children.

It wouldn't have been funny.

People tend not to have a sense of humor when their children are threatened.

Especially when, you know, people are like, hey, I think people are grooming children.

All right.

So now, on the good side.

Let me give you this story from MSNBC.

Conservative politicians, pundits have increasingly referred to advocates for the LGBTQ community as groomers,

associating people who oppose laws that restrict drag performances or classroom discussions of gender identity with pedophiles.

The charge is an echo of a decades-old trope anti-gay activists have used to paint the community as a threat to the country's youth.

The allegation is that some advocates say endangers LGBTQ people, and the intense reaction to the video has scared some attendees who insist the quip has been taken out of context.

No, it hasn't.

Can we play the whole clip, please?

Okay, stop.

I think by, you know, marching in the streets like drag queens, exposed breasts, you know, naked, whatever,

I think I have it in context.

I do.

Now I miss the,

that's funny part of it because of the times in which we live.

Okay, you know, you know what wouldn't be funny?

Is

Mel Brooks' History of the World Part 1 or Part 2 when he's doing the Inquisition

and also the Nazi Roundup.

Springtime for Hitler would not be funny while people were concerned about being put into ovens.

It can be funny after, it can be funny before, but it's not funny during the debate.

Now,

I can't believe I am quoting this from NBC.

But a drag performer named Fussy Lomain.

A given name?

I don't think so, but maybe.

I'm not in with the Lomain family.

So

Fussy Lomain says, it's really scary to us.

It doesn't represent everyone.

It represents that individual.

I thought it was a dumb idea, and I started chanting on top of it with alternative verses.

Fussy Lomain,

as if that is their real name,

is right.

And more people should have felt that way.

Organizer of this year's drag march, known as...

This is a serious news article.

An organizer for this year's Drag March, known as Huckle Fairy Ken.

Given name...

who also performs in drag is as Sister Lottie Da,

declined an interview request.

Yes.

Well, she's a sister, so it was a chosen name.

You got to

choose it when you take your vows.

Oh, okay.

She was citing fears

for his safety in light of the backlash of the video clip.

But he said in an email that Coming for Your Children, Chant, was a bad joke that is being used to serve the interest.

Listen to this, to serve the interests of parasitic, predatory political propaganda and policy.

So

they are mad, because I don't know which, I'm not sure which way we're going here, but so they are mad that

this chant of theirs is being misused.

It's not that they shouldn't be.

It's the opposite.

Well, no, wait a minute.

I was going to say it was the opposite, but bad joke that is being used to serve the interest of the parasitic.

Parasitic,

you call call a parasite something that goes into a movement and eats it and becomes its, you know, destroys the host.

So the bad joke is coming from within.

Possibly.

I thought I took that as they're saying basically conservatives are using this bad joke, which is just a joke, to destroy the LGBT movement from within.

Yeah,

then that would be a very unlightened point of view from Sister Ladi Da.

Which is

so out of character for Sister Ladi Da to have such a basic understanding of this and really done no deep thought.

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And this is totally like,

I don't think it's nearly as in-depth as Sister Ladida's thesis on this topic that you can, of course, read online, I'm sure.

very, very well.

Well, I think under the nom de plume of Sister Ladida, you'd have to look it up under Huckle Fairy Ken.

Yeah, that's the.

I think.

Huckle Fairy Ken is obviously, you know, a well-known

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Glenn, are you familiar with the latest front in the LGBTQQIA2 plus rights movement?

No, I'm not sure about the new front on the LGBTQIA 2 plus.

So this is going to seem, I think, almost quaint in comparison to we're coming for your children at a parade.

But it's an interesting thing.

Basically,

the ramifications of these giant changes in society are far-reaching, right?

You have a change like, for example, gay marriage, which, you know, is now supported by the majority of Americans.

And, but what does that mean down the line?

The latest thing is if you, let's say, are a straight couple, man and a woman, and you try to conceive children and you are unable to do so,

you go to a fertility expert

and perhaps they come up with some way.

I don't know, you know, test tubes and

magic dust or whatever it is.

Right.

Yeah, whatever it is.

And they figure out a way, hopefully, for you to conceive.

They have all sorts of treatments, and everyone knows about that.

And, you know, that's how that works.

Well, the new front on this is lesbian and gay couples who are saying, well, we can't conceive either.

So we go to our doctors and ask our health insurance to cover treatments so that we can.

And they say no.

Well, that's unfair.

Why don't we get equal rights?

I can tell you why.

I can tell you why, from the insurance point of view, I can tell you why.

It's not a risk.

That's a guarantee.

Insurance is all about gambling.

They put a price on it,

hoping that you're not going to get catastrophically sick.

When the more data they have and go, okay, you've got a long history of being really, really ill.

So we're going to make you pay more because we're taking the risk.

There is no risk.

If you're married and you're same-sex couple or whatever it is and you want a child, there is no risk.

The risk of you getting pregnant is zero.

Zero.

So

what is the insurance supposed to do?

You know, you want me to cover that?

If you get married and

you want me to cover that, okay, I'm just going to look at the price of what it will take to find a baby for you and stuff it in your belly or whatever it is we're going to do.

And I'm just going to write that and you're just going to pay that as a monthly figure broken up over two years.

And that would be the right thing to do for the insurance company.

Yeah, because I think zero.

Yeah, because that's the thing.

You looked at it from the insurance company's perspective.

And I think that's true because one of the things that they do, like health insurance is designed to say, your body's supposed to work in this way.

It is not working in this way right now.

We need to give you treatment and your insurance will cover that to try to make your body work the way it's supposed to.

Well, these couples, the lesbian and gay couples, their bodies aren't working the way they're supposed to.

They're working perfectly.

They're not designed when these two people come together to produce a child.

That's how the body's supposed to work.

The problem is,

you think our society is going to go forward admitting that?

Is this a country that you're confident will actually admit that two women cannot have a child together or two men cannot have a child together.

We're sitting here currently

saying that men can get pregnant.

There's no way our society holds the line on that.

They've already said that Disney provides this treatment already, by the way.

Are you denying that pigs have wings and wishes are horses and the moon is not made of stilton?

Yes, that is exactly what I'm admitting.

There's no stilton.

And like, that's okay.

You know, that's just how.

But like, if you want to go through that process, that's something you're going to have to pony up and pay for in my world.

In this world, though, are you telling me that this country is not going to come together and force every single insurance company in America because of fairness to provide this?

All that will do is drive everybody's insurance through the roof

because somebody's going to have to pay for it.

And so we'll spread out the non-risk risk and everybody will pay for it.

And won't that be great?

That'll be socialism.

Seems to be.

But you might as well have the way if we continue to force the insurance companies to take risks that they don't want to take, then you might as well just go to socialism.

And then everybody's going to have crappy health care.

I mean, I know some people have really really crappy health care.

And I'm sorry.

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I did not know that Teddy Roosevelt had been shot.

I had no idea that he had ever been shot.

And so to see the letter with the bullet holes in it and everything, amazing.

I had no idea of that history.

I think it was pretty cool being Native American from Chico, California, that George Washington gave a medal to a Native American.

And like, I would have never thought that.

In fact, I hated America, didn't pledge I would stand, but never said it, never put my my heart on my chest because I had believed that the government, which some, everybody, you know, people are people,

destroyed Indians, you know, and they did.

But at the same time, there was Indians, like code talkers, you know, that

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There's some people who are fighting for

Native Americans, you know, black people, Chinese people, Japanese people, all the people that come to America to be an American and to live for freedom, fight for freedom.

So yeah, George Washington giving a medal to the Native American was awesome.

I think

I feel inspired, empowered, really, you know, kind of a sense of

needing to speak out and to stand for freedom and kind of figure out what my part is in all of this and go do it.

Go to work.

Go to battle, really.

Like I said, we don't know if we're going to win or not or what the outcome is going to be, but it's our duty to do something, right?

Not to stand on the sidelines, but to

be an active participant in our history and

in our community.

It is really, truly amazing.

We're here in St.

George and we're doing the History Museum, taking it on road to make sure sure that your kids know the truth this Independence Day about American history.

Hopefully,

we are going to be

putting it on the road all across America.

We'd love to know if you wanted it in your community.

But it is something that I think at this point in our history, we have to decide.

And I'm hearing this a lot.

People are saying something hit them, you know, and it's weird because it's a different section for everyone.

I think when people see the first draft of the Declaration of Independence and then the final draft, the stone copy of it from 1823,

we've had several people tear up at that.

The Black Founders section is remarkable.

Slavery is very, very powerful.

Abraham Lincoln, the Gettysburg Address, all of these things that you may never have seen before or didn't even know existed are here.

And it is, it's a wonderful experience.

I'm going to be there all day today.

They don't let me in, but I'm going to sneak in.

I've got, oh, I've got plans.

Oh, I have plans.

So I will be there today and invite you.

I think they sell some walk-up tickets.

They're letting more people in.

We have more capacity than we thought.

We wanted to make sure that it wasn't too crowded.

And it's not.

So I don't know.

You might get here and you may have to wait an hour or something to get in, but it's filling it now to capacity, larger capacity than we thought we could hold.

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You think you have enough stuff yet?

Let me rephrase that.

Are you still married?

Is your wife?

Just

said, I saw stuff.

How many?

Tanya is here, and she's been walking around in the museum, and some people recognize her, and they are all like, don't hate him.

Don't hate him.

I would if I were you, but don't hate him.

Yeah.

What do you mean you would?

I mean,

first of all, there's a hundred reasons why they would, but I think the main one they're talking about there is the purchase of all these historical documents and items, which are great if you are going to a museum.

Like if you happen to be going.

to the museum,

it's a great thing that you've purchased all of this stuff to preserve.

If you have

married to the guy

who's hemorrhaging every cent out of your bank account to purchase it, it's not as fun, I would imagine.

And

this is why she's like, you know what?

Let's concentrate on the positive.

Get into the room and start painting, big boy.

Okay.

Keep your painting going because that seems to be the only

thing purchasing all of this.

That is, I mean, I do, I paint for two reasons.

One, because it lets me escape into another world for a few hours

every day or every other day.

And the other is because I got to sell something to, I mean, we're going to be living, I swear to you,

if you listen to my wife, we're going to be living under a bridge

with

George Washington's compass and Abraham Lincoln's, you know, clothing from the day that he died.

We'll have that in our shopping cart.

But

we got that going for us because that's all we'll have going for us.

That's her version.

Yeah.

My version is, please come by my art.

Right.

Please come by my art.

Glennbeckart.com, I believe it is, by the way.

And yes, a lot of it is very expensive.

This is stuff that actually is in galleries.

And I've made fun of Glenn for this in the past because when he started painting, he sucked really badly.

And now he's somehow actually.

International collectors.

Collectors.

International collectors.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

And I would say this.

I think the normal reaction to someone who hears this, that your art is hanging in a gallery, is like, how does this Hunter Biden-like scam work?

Right.

And I think that's a normal question.

There's a message.

I would ask that.

Yeah.

In fact, I have asked that.

Yeah.

I'm just not in apparently on the scam because I've asked that.

How is this

not the same as Hunter Biden?

Because that's crap.

And I mean, but people, I think Biden's much better than Hunter Biden, quite honestly.

But

you can see all of the art.

We have G Clays, and we have posters of it, and t-shirts of it, and the originals.

So bring your checkbook if you happen to be rich.

Bring your checkbook because we're going to milk you for every cent you have.

And if you're not rich,

trying to put this thing on the road.

Right.

You can do the you can do the posters, which are very nice and reasonably priced.

Although I will say, if you think of the difference, essentially like Hunter Biden's scam

was like he comes out with art and then that fuels a bunch of Coke-filled, you know, hooker,

you know,

wasted weekends, where yours goes to like George Washington's handkerchief.

Like that, like there's some, some,

it's sort of the same thing, except less cocaine and more really nerdy documents.

There is something coming up for sale on July 7th.

I'm just saying.

I haven't talked to my wife about it yet, but I will.

If I sell some of this art as I am, it is, it's like

it's a very important, important piece.

I don't even want to tell you what it is.

I'll tell you when I get it or if I don't get it, what it was.

It's really important, and that's what all of the money goes for.

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Well, last year at this time, we were still recovering from

the

Roe versus Wade

decision being

released and overturned.

And I believe it was at about this time that we had some of our

Supreme Court justices,

you know, under attack, but good thing nobody went to jail for that.

Stu, we have how many cases?

10 cases remaining for them to release?

Ooh, that's a good question.

I think it's less than that.

I think I have it as four is the story that I was reading.

And

we still...

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

We still have the

Joe Biden loan forgiveness to come through and quite a few others.

Yeah, that's the, I mean, there's a couple big ones.

The loan forgiveness one to me is the biggest one because it would.

basically be overturning our entire republic if they were to allow this to happen.

I mean, it's almost that critical that they shoot this down.

It's the most obvious thing in the world.

Even people on the left, even Joe Biden's own administration, people like Nancy Pelosi have said this.

Even you're talking about

basically saying Congress has no power and

the president has the power to throw around hundreds of billions of dollars without even asking Congress.

I mean, that is a

legitimately, it's hard to overstate what that would mean to our country if this can be.

It's a rewriting of the Constitution.

It makes Congress completely irrelevant.

Yeah.

And like, if you think about like Roe versus Wade initially, like here, they kind of dug out a right that didn't exist with some weird justification.

That's not this.

This is taking what everyone knows is in the Constitution and completely reversing it, reversing our entire structure of government.

I mean, it is.

And everyone knows this.

Joe Biden knows this.

They know they can't do this.

Their plan was essentially to throw it out there.

Maybe the court won't pick it up.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll let us do it.

And if the Supreme Court overturns it, we'll just complain about the court, right?

Like, we know we can't really do this, but we'll have an out and we'll say, these darn Supreme Court justices, oh, they stopped us from giving you all these free loans.

Come vote for us.

Like, that's the strategy here.

They never thought they would get this through the Supreme Court.

I don't think they will.

But if that were to go the wrong way, I think it would be massively problematic.

You also have the.

It would be bad.

dictator state that would be run by an administrator, and that's Woodrow Wilson's literally his dream.

And it would fundamentally change the United States.

Yes, 100%.

There's the affirmative action one for colleges, both public and private, where

basically can you discriminate against Asians because they're really smart?

It's that case.

They're like, hey, Asians do well on these tests.

We should be able to tell them they can't come to college.

Right.

Which is incredible.

There's another First Amendment site.

We know

someone that runs a web design company who

didn't want to do a gay marriage website.

Another one of these types of cases.

That's in there.

There is

a postal worker who said they didn't want to work on Sundays for religious reasons.

There's also a religious thing, religious rights and compelled speech.

Yeah.

Supreme Court, you know, this is the web designer that, you know,

that guy is, again, the cake decorator.

It's the cake decorator type of case, again, which should not be controversial in this country.

It's incredible that it is.

We should also mention the one that came down

yesterday, which was this federal elections situation,

where

you have a situation where basically like the idea was, can this legislative supremacy idea where can a state legislature basically

overturn, you know, does it have more power than essentially the courts do and everything else to make election law?

And it's sort of in the Constitution that way without qualifiers, though.

Also, there's other things that

checks and balances exist.

And so this went back and forth.

It was a 6-3 decision

where

Amy Coney Barrett, John Roberts, and Brett Kavanaugh all went with the liberal block.

The conservative bloc, Gorsuch Alito and Thomas, wrote a dissent.

But if you look at the dissent, it's really more about whether the point was moot at this point, because the specific case they're talking about has already been dealt with.

Long, boring story.

But what's interesting to me about it is for months, the left-wing press told us how horrible the Supreme Court was and how they were going to rule in favor of these state legislatures so that they could just overturn elections on a whim.

They told us our democracy was upside down.

This court, we have to pack the court because they're going to rule that conservative states can just overturn the presidential election on a whim whenever they want and cannot be any, there would be no checks and balances.

And then when it came down to it, after months and months and months of them crying like, you know, again, the handmaid's tale is coming.

Courts.

This court raised money.

Yeah, the court goes the opposite way, and there's not one

bit

of self-reflection, not one bit of, why did we write 500 stories telling the American people that the country was going to end because they were going to go down this road?

We were totally wrong for months and months and months and months telling the American people this.

And now that the other side has happened and this court just said, actually, no, you can't just do that.

This wouldn't make any sense, which I think is probably the right ruling in this particular case.

Though I, you know, I, I, Clarence Thomas, I think, is right that maybe it shouldn't have been ruled ruled on at all.

But the bottom line here is that they were wrong this whole time.

They were totally

hyping up an issue that did not exist, and then there's no apologies at the end of it.

And there never is, Glenn.

No, because their mission was not that.

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Most people will never know that

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I think we're about to put the body, the blood, the splatters on the wall, and the chalk outline out.

And it seems like mainstream media is like, what murder?

What are you talking about?

Is that enough?

Is that really enough?

Sure, we have the whole thing on video, but really, is that enough?

That is, I will say there has been at least a couple

mainstream sources that have actually pursued this.

I mean, CBS News did a piece on it yesterday, surprisingly.

Corinne Jean-Pierre Jean-Pierre went through five minutes.

How manyone watched CBS News?

That's true.

Corinne Jean-Pierre had a really, I would say, tough press conference where, I mean, for five straight minutes, White House reporters came after her asking questions about this.

And of course, she just bumbled her way through it because she's terrible at her job.

But it was interesting to even see her have to go through that exercise.

So I don't know.

I mean, we've talked about this before.

Every once in a while, one of these things breaks through.

And a lot of times it has to do with people doing something super selfish.

It's not ideological.

And this, you know, this, this seems to be Joe Biden selfishly using the power of his office in a corrupt way to protect his son.

And maybe,

I don't know, maybe that breaks through.

Maybe the average mainstream reporter looks at this and says, this is going to be a problem later on.

We should get him out of here now while Gavin Newsom still has a chance to step in or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, here it is.

House Republicans yesterday released more WhatsApp messages.

They say they were written by Hunter Biden as he worked on a business deal with a Chinese energy company.

In messages from August 2017, the First Sun pushed that $10 million was needed and it needed to be invested annually into the joint venture with CEFC China Energy.

He called a $5 million proposal new to me and not acceptable.

$5 million just isn't enough for all the things that Hunter Biden could bring to the table, like

drugs.

The House Oversight Committee, the Twitter account, said that Hunter was messaging Guang Wen Dong.

a CEFC China Energy Associate who used the nickname Kevin.

That's the best part of the story I don't know if I've ever told you I called

Benjamin Netanyahu he was in the United States and I had to call his hotel room and and use a code name and when I saw the code name I thought it was ridiculous and so I called the hotel and I said

John Smith please

And it rang through and hello.

And I said, Prime Minister, how are you?

And he said, I'm doing fine.

And I said,

John Smith?

Really?

I was hoping for something a little more clever.

And he said, in my country, it is very clever.

Anyway, so it wasn't social

John Smith, of course, but yes.

No.

It was actually John Smith.

That was his code name at that time.

They don't use the same code name, Stu.

Okay.

I didn't give away.

Okay, I'm the one sitting on the Iranian papers.

Anyway,

the House Oversight Committee's Twitter account said that he used the messaging with Kevin,

and Hunter had said, I'm tired of this, Kevin.

I can make $5 million in salary from any law firm in America.

If you think it's about money, it's not.

Okay, listen to this.

If you think it's about money, it's not.

The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the chairman wants from this partnership.

Let's not quibble over peanuts.

Which Bidens?

Oh, I forgot.

He's got his sister-in-law, his ex-sister-in-law.

She brings a lot to the table, too.

And then the brother, who we all know is an expert in.

Well, anyway, all those Bidens are the best at bringing the chairman what he wants, and it has nothing to do with Joe Biden.

This is horrific.

Horrific.

We all now know

this is true, that Biden is selling his country out

for cash.

And if Hunter is right and it's not about cash,

what is it?

That even sounds worse.

What is it?

Treason?

I'm having a hard time getting my arms around it, but Hunter is going to be deposed tomorrow, and we will give you more on that deposition and the questions that need to be asked coming up probably on tomorrow's program.

I've been thinking about, go ahead, Stu.

I was going to say, do you think that's why we're getting these WhatsApp messages?

Like, if the Republicans had these this whole time,

I'm a bit perplexed on the timeline here.

We're hearing about about this after this deal has been cut.

Are they just trying to say, hey, don't let this deal go through because we have so much more that you don't know about yet?

Is that the goal here?

Why are we hearing about these things now?

Because I don't think these have anything to do with the deal.

He can make whatever deal, but he didn't make a deal.

on this, I don't think.

I mean, the way it was covered.

The way the press wrote about this was this was designed.

This deal was designed to knock out all all criminal questions on Hunter Biden.

Like, this is it.

This is what they came up with.

They looked at everything, and this is what they came up with, and it should clear him from all the other stuff.

Now, I don't know if legally.

It doesn't clear his dad, doesn't clear his dad, doesn't clear his uncle either, who's a huge part of this particularly.

But I don't, like, I just, I hope that, I mean, I really hope they go in there tomorrow and the judge is like, no, I'm not taking this.

I'm not taking this deal.

Go back to the drawing board because this, clearly, there's more going on here than him not paying his taxes a couple times.

This is not a minor thing, and we're talking about influence at the highest levels of our government.

And if that, if that is just ignored,

we, you know, it's going to incentivize people to do more of it.

And we still don't know what happened here.

We don't know if there was policies that were implemented when he became president later on.

We don't know what was, we don't know what influence this stuff bought.

But

I doubt it was without a price.

You don't spend $5 million, $10 million, $100 million

on something and get nothing back for it.

So yesterday on a related note, Hunter Biden settled with his baby mama.

And baby mama wanted the Biden name.

for one and she also wanted

more cash.

I got stuck as I was reading this.

I really got stuck on the

Biden name.

She felt that that carried weight in society.

Not anything good.

Would you want to strap your child with the name Biden?

I wouldn't.

I grew up in an alcoholic family.

Both my parents were all screwed up.

My mom had a good childhood.

My dad had a horrible childhood.

He

was abused by his father.

He ran away from home at 16.

He ran to Los Angeles, stayed at the YMCA where he had been repeatedly raped.

He only told me this at the end, towards the end of his life.

He never told anybody in the family ever.

None of us knew.

And

did everything he could.

He was kind of a distant dad because

he didn't want to be his father.

And

I understood so much more about my childhood with him just not being around

much more after he talked to me about that.

But now

I can at times be a distant dad because I'm working all the time and it's something that I'm trying to conquer.

And abuse has happened in my family with my sisters.

And

it has been my goal to stop all of the abuse in the family.

So somebody's got to stand up for the women in our family.

And I, and I've taught my son and my nephews,

enough is enough.

Stop and protect the women in our family.

That's a Herculean thing to try to even take on.

and change in one generation.

Your history really matters to you.

And

I know

one of the things that played into me when I was very young was my mother was an alcoholic, and then she killed herself.

I'm 14, 15 years old.

And

I remember in my 20s

feeling like that was inevitable.

That's just the way we do things.

That's, I mean, it had happened in my family, and it's just the way we do things.

The mark that the Bidens are putting on their children and grandchildren forever,

it's going to take somebody with real spine.

And I don't see anyone in that family with any kind of spine.

But to reverse the damage to that family

is going to take

a hero of epic proportions.

And what's crazy is Hunter Biden is in the position to do it.

But I don't think he'll ever humble himself enough.

I mean, look, wouldn't you be embarrassed to be in public right now if you were one of them?

Wouldn't you almost be afraid to be in public?

You'd be like, I sold out my country with my dad and he's president.

I would be really ashamed and worried about being in public right now.

They're not.

They're not.

And unfortunately, when it comes to families and repentance and everything else, it takes humility.

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You know, go ahead.

On the Hunter Biden story, one of the other parts that I think is really interesting about this baby mama situation is

how

he is just abandoning this child, right?

Like, he seems to have no care.

He doesn't even want

the kid to have his name.

What a despicable person this guy is.

I mean, forget the drug use and all the other crimes he's committed.

This kid

now has to live with

the knowledge that his father wanted so little to do with him that he wouldn't even allow the mother to use the last name for the child.

And I go back to this all the time when it comes to the pro-life, pro-choice argument.

The value of a life is not determined by the circumstances of the conception.

The fact that he was screwing around with some stripper and had sex with her and it resulted in a child does not mean that the life of this child should mean any less.

And it certainly shouldn't mean any less to the actual father.

It's hard to describe how disgusting this is.

The fact that the president of the United States will not even acknowledge his own grandson.

It is so over-the-top disgusting.

And not one person in the press has pushed the president of the United States to address this issue.

This is his grandson.

His grandson.

And they won't even allow him to use the name.

I understand why that's a proficient political calculation, but it is a disgusting, a disgusting series of choices

for a man.

I'm sorry,

I don't think it is a political choice anymore.

Maybe it used to be.

Maybe just when, you know, back in the 40s or whenever, and you had a, uh, what was called a bastard child and you didn't want to acknowledge, you know, something out of wedlock.

Now, babies are had out of wedlock all the time, usually not by,

you know, famous, disgusting animals like Hunter Biden, but it has happened.

It just shows he's living the prince life.

He's living the life of an old,

you know,

a prince of the realm, you know, 500 years ago, where kings would go out and have their mistress and they'd never recognize their baby and it didn't matter at all.

This guy is so crass and grotesque that

all he wanted was sex that night.

And that's her fault.

It's her problem that she has.

I mean, how do they,

how does the left reconcile this?

I'm left to

the conclusion that there just isn't anybody honest that cares on the left.

There's nobody that is like that really cares about women and says, no, no, women shouldn't be treated like garbage.

And I know that his dad is on my side on X, Y, and Z, but this is horrific.

They won't do it.

And they don't do it on a number of things, especially with women.

How is it helping women to have men put on a bathing suit, say they're a woman, and then swim and win first place every time.

How does that help women?

It doesn't.

Where are the ones that actually believe in something?

Yeah, no, I mean, that would be nice to see.

And I think you'd also like to see someone press the President of the United States on these WhatsApp messages.

You know,

okay, we all know that he did talk to his son about his business and he was lying that whole time.

But like,

there could theoretically be an out where Hunter was using his dad's influence and name to make money and

the president maybe didn't know about it.

This is before he was president, but maybe he didn't know about it.

Like whatever his excuse would be.

But he needs to get on the record with that, if that's true.

And he also needs to say, hey,

you know what?

Like, I've been telling everybody that this wasn't happening.

And now these messages are showing that, you know what, the whole time it was happening, maybe I, he could, this is probably a lie, but he could say, hey, I didn't know about it.

I'm very disappointed in my son, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But he should be on record because when he's caught, we need to know that he was lying the whole time.

Yeah, well, we know he was lying if he ever says that, because we know from the State Department that the State Department was concerned about his son attending all these meetings in China,

in Ukraine, et cetera, et cetera, and warned the president, then vice president, then Obama, and the vice president.

We have it on record that they warned and said, this looks very, very bad.

He should not be doing these things.

So the vice president was informed.

He knew.

He can't claim that I,

he was just on the plane, same plane with me.

We booked a ticket at the same time.

We just both got on the same plane.

It was Air Force 2, dude.

Okay, there's no way you didn't know.

Yeah.

And by the way, people are correcting me that it is

Joe Biden's granddaughter, not grandson.

Now, I don't like the fact that people are doing that because they're assuming gender there as they do that.

I was upset at you when you said grandson because how do you know it's a boy

girl?

We should not assign gender at birth, and that's my fault.

You cisgender people just really make me angry.

I really do.

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There's a couple of things that you need to know about.

First of all, Donald Trump jacked up the threats on Monday and then again yesterday, says he's going to skip at least the first Republican debate because it's Fox News.

And

I agree with him, quite honestly.

I think these guys should stop doing these debates

with the mainstream media.

I mean,

oh boy, Stu's looking at me skeptically.

Yeah, I'm curious.

I mean, look, I don't think Fox's news coverage is perfect by any means, but certainly it's more friendly than the mainstream media as a whole.

We're just including Fox News and mainstream media now.

Is that kind of where you're going with this?

Kind of.

Sometimes that feels that way.

I mean, I don't think that that's always the case.

I think they are way off course from where they used to be.

And now

it's just I kind of don't trust them.

You know, when Tucker was there, I knew Tucker was fighting and fighting

the inside and the outside.

And now,

I mean,

who do you really trust over there?

Brett Baer?

I mean, he's a nice guy.

I really like him, but really?

He is a Carl Rove?

I mean, Carl Rove.

You know, Brett Baer is a straight news journalist, so I think does certainly.

I mean,

maybe not compare him to whatever your ideal Fox is, but like compare him to NBC news coverage.

I mean, I take Brett Baer a thousand times in a row.

Yeah, I would too.

But you don't have to settle for that now anymore.

What's your vision of it in the many sources?

Who's doing this?

Oh,

I would take

the Daily Wire.

I would take

The Blaze.

So something

I do think that

what you're talking about here, because obviously, somewhat, that's self-serving, right?

We work for the Blaze, right?

We certainly like the Daily Wire.

There's a lot of outlets like that.

But what I think is that

I would put

Glenn Greenwald and put, I would build a panel of people that are going to ask honest questions.

Yeah.

I want honest questions.

I don't want gotcha questions.

I don't want questions coming from

any one point of view.

I want people who will ask the honest question.

I'll ask tough questions.

Tucker would ask tough questions.

Glenn Greenwald would ask tough questions.

Ben Shapiro would.

Yeah, and look, sometimes Fox has done a good job with that in previous debates.

Sometimes.

But I would say, like, one of the things that's most interesting to me about your idea here is that what we get out of mainstream media are questions that would theoretically interest their audience.

And often that question is, you know, something like, hey,

did you really rape Eugene Carroll at Bergdorf's in 1985?

And it's like, all right, like, I get that's what, you know, Rachel Maddow's audience probably does want to hear.

They probably do want to hear about that.

But like, I would like to hear like much more.

Like, I would like to hear from Donald Trump, hey, you know, you're talking a lot about, you know, beating the deep state, right?

And how important that is.

One of your main justifications for running.

Well, if you're out of office right now,

and you're saying this election was stolen from you, why didn't you see any of this coming?

Why didn't you stop it?

Why didn't you do something when you had the power to do it?

Right?

Like, that's a question that, like, I think that's something that, like,

like would be a real question of like how he's going to govern.

What did he miss?

Did he miss something?

Did did he just put bad people in control?

If so, why?

Like, there's a lot of questions there about Donald Trump's presidency that might be interesting to a conservative trying to decipher between two conservatives.

What we get from the mainstream media is like this pitch of why Donald Trump is so evil and why you should pick Joe Biden over him.

And I think there's very little value in a primary for that.

So here's what I, because I asked Donald Trump that question, and I don't know if it was publicly or privately, but I said,

deep state,

how did that happen?

And he said, I knew there was powerful forces.

He said, I had absolutely no idea how deep it went, but I do now.

I mean, I think that was a reasonable answer.

It's a reasonable answer, but I mean, I think it's fair to worry about that.

Oh, I do, too.

If you're putting someone back in office who missed it last time, like, I think

that's a question.

And I think the same question to go, and I'm not saying this to beat up on Trump.

He's just the one that everyone knows their story better.

I mean, like, you could ask the same question about Ron DeSantis.

You know, DeSantis is coming in.

He's never dealt with the Washington people like this.

Obviously, he was a congressman.

But, you know, is he going to be able to perform in this situation?

It's a legitimate question.

Ask him about, you know, are you on, a lot of people are uncomfortable with how he's using his power in the state, you know, as maybe it's too top down.

right for a conservative audience let's go back and forth and hear from another candidate who says you know what maybe you're doing too much from

the governor's mansion.

These are just examples.

You're not saying what right or wrong there, but like, how do you decipher between two conservatives has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump kept documents.

Like, I don't care about that.

That means nothing to me

as it regards to going to try to pick somebody in a primary.

Well, I have a feeling that the left feels the same way about those documents.

You remember, somehow or another,

this recording was leaked.

Wow.

There's so many leaks.

None, none, apparently, on the left that we should either listen to or take credible.

But so many leaks on Donald Trump.

The whole leak was him talking about a plan, apparently,

with Iran.

And he had the document.

And those were one of the, you know, they took those documents away from him because he was being irresponsible with them.

Well, guess what wasn't with the documents and guess what wasn't even listed when they charged him

that document.

So, wait, we're

we've been arguing about a conversation he had where he said he was holding up a magazine

and they don't even have the document.

I mean, I would I would say

highly unlikely if

they had the document and he had the document, he'd reach over and grab it and say look at this

but if the document doesn't exist at least in the file then you have to go to he shred it which is now a conspiracy theorist uh or or what yeah why are we arguing over this it's stupid i mean and i think too this is a situation where it's not like we don't have the murder weapon we don't have the body

right like there's we have no idea if he actually killed someone in this murder case the the the document if the document doesn't exist, who knows?

You know, maybe that's that, again, is your conspiracy theory.

You're like, you know, you think maybe he shredded it.

But if you don't have any evidence of that, what do you have here?

Again, this story, I think, is just nonsensical.

It's got nothing to do with the future of the country.

Nothing.

This is just a sideshow, a sideshow, yet another attempt to throw Donald Trump out of office.

What you could do to get him out of office, which is just beat him, right?

If you're a a Democrat and you don't want Donald Trump to be president, then win.

You don't need to.

They keep trying to do this by some other means and they

go down these roads.

Do the American people care if the president,

who literally was given this document in office to see it, instead of having it in front of him, just remembers the details?

That's what we're talking about.

He would know about this document anyway.

He could tell people about it anyway.

The question is, does he have it in his possession or not?

That's really what we're going to determine the future of this country on.

It's just stupid.

By the way, Chip Roy, who we're trying to get on, Chip Roy has come out and said that a number of Republicans don't believe Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas should be impeached over his handling of the border.

May I ask,

how low is the bar for unemployment or employment at the Biden administration?

Because it seems like everyone can keep their job and they're all doing fine.

What's her name?

The White House press secretary.

She's awful.

She's awful.

She's either reading from a book.

Why don't you just

Xerox the book and just hand it to all the reporters?

If you're going to read all of the answers, they got them there.

They can just flip to page nine.

That's all she should say.

Flip to page nine.

That answer is on page 12.

Yeah, I'm not going any further than that.

She's awful, yet everybody seems to love her.

Majorcas,

what does the guy have to do?

Does he have to start driving drug cartel members across the border and

have them sleep in the White House before we care?

No way that would be enough to get him out.

He would remain

no matter what, which is incredible.

By the way, Glenn, one update on the border situation, you know, the whole DeSantis flying people into Martha's Vineyard.

It was the worst thing any governor had ever done in history.

And we were all told about all these awful things.

Now there's a news story in the New York Times that the people who did stay, which was a small percentage of them, they booted most of them out immediately.

But the people who did stay, really enjoying Martha's Vineyard.

Build a nice life there, really liking it.

They can't believe it.

This is news.

This is news?

This is really nice.

It's why all of our presidents build houses really are.

Wow, they just dropped me in one of the greatest vacation paradises of all time, at least in America.

And

I like it.

Oh, get that on the front page.

It's not a surprise.

It's not a surprise.

However, it should be a surprise to anyone who reads the New York Times, who were told this was one of the worst things the governor has ever done.

And they're making it seem like, oh, well, they put it in the face of Ron DeSantis by enjoying their time in Martha's Vineyard.

I don't know.

Was DeSantis trying to punish them by putting them there?

He was trying to point out, hey, the burden can't be held by only southern states.

And while, you know, these people, of course, are going to enjoy it there.

There's no question about it.

I think this is a great policy for everybody.

Yeah, you want to punish somebody.

You clearly send them to Philadelphia or Washington, D.C.

Martha's Vineyard is not a punishment.

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We're here in St.

George, where we are putting on the Blueprints of Liberty Museum.

It's a pretty amazing thing to come and see.

And you will learn history that you probably didn't know before, along with all of the facts and documents and everything else.

It's really something great for you and your family to do

this holiday for Independence Day.

I will tell you that there's one place that we are a little thin, and that is I just purchased a bunch of documents for the museum to preserve them, and they are Wernher von Braun documents.

We got some from when he was, you know, a Hitler guy, and then when he was working on the space program.

I haven't made up my mind on Wernher von Braun.

I think he's a bad guy, a really bad guy,

but we whitewashed him.

But I'm trying to find things like a spacesuit.

I can't get one.

I can't get anything

because it's against the law.

And I really think that we are coming to a place to where 15 years from now, if we become a secondary or a third kind of nation, third world nation, nobody's going to believe we ever went to the moon.

And the more the government discredits itself, the worse that becomes.

We were just talking, David is a listener and he's in the studio here.

And we were just talking about JFK and

things that he knows from

friends that were involved with the JFK case.

And

there's something much more, something deeper than just Oswald.

And we know that from the documents that are coming out here in the last year.

I would just so love a presidential candidate to say, look, I'm just going to bear it all.

Here it is.

I mean, you're old enough to deal with it.

You should see it all and know the good and the bad of what we've done because I think we've done a lot of bad and I'm willing to accept that

especially you know if it's 40 years in the past I'm a little hard to accept it you know in the if you're still in office I'm having a hard time with that but we should know all of these things so we can know the good and the bad and decide whether or not it is worth preserving

and if it is how do we learn from the bad in the past so we don't do it again

One of the things is stop with all this secrecy.

You can't run a country where everything is secret.

You can't run a country if people are above the law, if they can skirt around it and do dark ops.

That's not the spirit of America.

When is that going to end?

Perhaps.

Perhaps it will end.

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Make sure that you have a very long memory of who's doing what and get the bad ones out.

Yes, your

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Hi, Tim.

How are you?

I'm good, Glenn.

Good to see you.

Good to see you.

Thank you so much for coming to

Liberty Week here in St.

George.

Well, I love being here.

Yeah.

You and your dad are across the street now

doing another

American history seminar.

Yep.

And usually when we do these, and maybe it's because of me because I'm such a loudmouth, they last three days.

But this is being done in one day.

So actually, we were going to do one-day seminars and we said there's no way we can squeeze three days into one day.

So we're doing a two-day seminar.

We found the happy middle ground.

Okay.

So you're at

wow.

You're at, then today you'd be at my part where it gets really, really dark.

Correct.

Yeah.

Correct.

How are you going to do that?

You're so happy.

Well, that's the reason I left.

It's up to my dad now.

I don't know what he's saying right now.

I can get back and the whole story's changed.

I have no idea.

Right.

You know, the amazing thing is, and people are seeing this here, backed up by facts.

We are a country that is

both Jamestown and Plymouth.

Absolutely.

And this is a choice.

We have this great map that was printed by Congress in 1870

that shows the tree that comes from Jamestown, which is nasty.

It ends in treason and murder and death and slavery.

And the tree from the Pilgrims leads to freedom.

And people don't understand

the difference between those two and that we have to make a choice every day between those two.

Yeah, so the map specifically, if people are wanting to look it up, it came out in 1888.

If they look for an 1888 map of Jamestown and Plymouth, they can find that map, and it shows the legacy.

And what's great about even the imagery, it came out at the end of Reconstruction.

So as America has gone through the Civil War, 13th, 14th, 15th Amendment rights are being restored.

At this point, you still have the Union Army in the South enforcing all of those civil rights before Democrats took over.

And when President Cleveland comes in and they revoke all of the civil rights laws passed in Reconstruction.

But up to this point, point, there's nothing.

Why did they, wait, wait, why did they do that?

Why did Cleveland do that?

Well, part of what was going on, there was a discrepancy in the presidency leading up to Democrats getting control of Congress again.

And part of that there was not enough electoral votes, and this is before Cleveland.

I think it was, was it Hayes?

I'd have to look that up.

I'm just, I'm, I'm so overloaded with my Hayes information that I can't sort through it fast enough.

Well, and yeah, we've been studying for a different conversation.

And so now I'm like, wait a second, which one is this?

But you go back that it was the last Republican before Democrats take over, and there wasn't enough electoral votes to declare presidential winner.

So it goes to Congress.

And in Congress, it still wasn't really clear that they're still divided of who's going to be the president.

And some of the congressmen from the South said, we will, we will acquiesce.

We'll say, Republicans, you can have the president if you remove.

the Union Army from the South because the Union Army is who was enforcing all of these civil rights laws.

And not everybody in the South South was against some of what was going on, but certainly the political leaders, and there were some absolutely racist, embedded thoughts in those political leaders in many of the southern states.

And so they said, we'll give you the presidency if you remove these,

the Union Army from our different towns.

Well, when the Union Army is removed, they begin revoking some of those civil rights laws that were allowing black Americans to vote.

Well, once you have removed the ability for black Americans to vote, there was at that point a lot of black elected officials in southern states, all Republicans.

But once blacks can no longer vote in those states anymore, all of a sudden Democrats not only come back to power, they have then a super majority coming back with what they're doing.

And when they get that power from the South, all of the Southern elected individuals become Democrat again.

That's when you begin to see not only Democrats having power in Congress, the presidency coming back.

That's when you start seeing them go back to some of that

racist roots where they're saying, right, Jim Crow.

This is when that kind of enters.

And this is part of the legacy of Jamestown and Plymouth.

And even to that map, what's worth noting is when you look at where Jamestown and Plymouth are, it shows there are two things

that they are rooted in.

And in Plymouth, it is built on the Bible.

And it's very clearly: there's a book that says Bible on the side, but Jamestown, it's a corner.

We have, hang on, just a second.

We have downstairs their

letter

from,

or their oath that they had to take as a citizen of

Plymouth, that it's all about God.

It's all about God.

Yeah, it's, I mean, really, when you start looking at the historical documents, there's no question at all that these were individuals who were rooted in faith.

When even we have the first printing of Governor Bradford's journal, and he identified at times that we'd spend six to eight hours a day studying the Bible, that this is who they were.

And so it shows in the map that is a foundation of Plymouth.

And then it shows the tree growing from there.

And Jamestown, it shows that the foundation of Jamestown is a coin on the side that says Maamon.

And what they were pointing out is that some of these individuals, where they had gone wrong, the Bible tells us that the love of money is the root of all evil.

And where they went wrong is they cared more about making money than they did about individuals.

I think the same thing could be said about Columbus.

He's coming over.

He's very, very humble.

He gets here.

He starts to think, oh my gosh, I'm going to be famous.

I'm going to be the governor.

I can make money.

And it goes awry.

And he's humbled again.

I mean, whenever anyone is pursuing, at least on this land, when they are just pursuing money, they're destroyed.

Unquestionably.

And I think this is also part of the dichotomy, even in human history, where even with Jamestown and Plymouth, this is not a new thought or idea.

You can go back to the famous novel by Charles Dickens, The Tale of Two Cities, right?

This was always kind of, you have two options, and what option are you going to take?

And America took both options.

But it's also worth noting, even that that early 1888 map depicts it very well.

The majority of America was far more impacted by Plymouth than they were Jamestown, which one of the things that we will illustrate for people when someone says, America's evil, we had Jim Crow laws in America.

Unquestionably, we had Jim Crow laws in America, but we always ask the question, where do we have Jim Crow laws?

Because right now we're sitting in Utah.

You know who didn't have Jim Crow laws?

Utah.

Neither did Colorado.

Neither did Nebraska.

Neither, really, when you start looking at the tree that came from Plymouth and it goes across all of the northern U.S.

and spreads into the western U.S., so all of the northern states the only the only part that really embraced the Jim Crow laws were the deep Democratic South where that racism was embedded in much of their culture so at what point did the Klan

because we have some stuff down in the museum that is horrifying yep and one of them is a little Klan card with faces of mostly black but a lot of whites as well that basically is a Klan killing card.

Correct.

They would hand them out and say, if you see these people, kill them or call us.

Yeah, it was the Republican legislature of South Carolina.

And in South Carolina, the Republicans, the one fighting for equal rights, well, that was the Republican Party was the party that all of the former slaves, the black people, were joining because that was the party of freedom and equality.

Right.

And it was because really the first platform of the Republican Party didn't have anything like, we're for lower taxes.

It was.

all about anti-slavery.

Which we also have that.

So the first Republican platform came out in 1856 and had nine planks.

So nine things of what we fundamentally believe, well, seven of the nine planks were against slavery.

So right, this is where it's not confusing at all.

The Republican Party was against slavery, which also leads into when Lincoln gets elected in 1860 on the Republican platform.

The Republican platform is still absolutely anti-slavery.

When he gets elected and South Carolina was the first state to secede, South Carolina released what was known as a Declaration of Causes.

It was like their version of the Declaration of Independence.

And what they acknowledged is that we know with this new Republican leadership that their goal is to end and emancipate the slaves, end slavery or emancipate the slaves.

And we know that slavery is no longer South if we remain in the Union.

And so they conclude this Declaration of Causes by saying we invite all other slaveholding states to join us in forming a pro-slavery confederation.

This is where

when people even talk about states' rights, we'd encourage people to go back and read why they actually said they're separating because the political leaders did not argue states' rights.

Now, we also make the distinction, not everybody in the South was pro-slavery, just like not everybody in the North was anti-slavery.

You had people from New York as a great example.

They were very much pro-slavery, but they were pro-union.

Whereas the political leaders in the South, they were so pro-slavery, they said, we don't care about the Union.

We care more about our slaves.

And this is where we would tell people, of the 11 states that seceded, five of them released Declaration of Causes, where they are literally saying why they're seceding.

And in every one of their Declaration of Causes, they're talking about slavery being the primary reason they are seceding.

Well, you're also,

if you look at the Constitution of the Southern states, you can't join the secession unless you agree with slavery, will have slavery, and agree to expand slavery elsewhere.

Correct.

I mean, so it's pretty darn clear.

And what's also worth noting about even the Confederate Constitution, it's almost a verbatim copy of the U.S.

Constitution, and then they just added several parts they thought would make it better.

And the parts they added were parts to protect and defend and expand slavery as new territories would join.

That would be a hard time.

Did they adopt the Bill of Rights as well?

Because I don't know how you square that.

Well, that's actually a super interesting question because in the Confederate Constitution, there is no Bill of Rights.

Correct.

Right, which is super interesting.

I have not looked into the conversations they had about not including the Bill of Rights, but absolutely, that would be an interesting conversation or interesting research.

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all right so uh

tell me about the role of not the bad,

but the other Adams family.

The original.

The original Adams family and Lincoln.

The connection all the way through.

This is fascinating.

So, I mean, really, John Quincy Adams story is what we're alluding to.

It's worth backing up.

John Adams is one of the founding fathers who never owned slaves and fought against slavery his whole life.

Hated it.

So John Quincy Adams grows up in this.

When John Quincy Adams is eight years old, he's at the Battle of Bunker Hill.

He and his mom are are watching off in the distance.

They watch one of their friends' family doctor, Dr.

Joseph Warren.

He is killed.

The most famous painting at the Battle of Bunker Hill is known as the murder of Dr.

Warren.

It shows him in the very front.

He's the one being bayoneted.

That's the one that has Peter Salem off on the side, acknowledging this black hero from the Battle of Bunker Hill.

John Quincy Adams grows up in that.

When he's 11 years old, he receives a congressional appointment to go with his father over to Paris.

He's the official secretary to America's diplomat, who was his father.

How old is he then?

That's when he's 11.

11, and he's the official secretary.

Correct.

When he's 14, he received a second congressional appointment, this time before the throne of Catherine the Great in Russia.

And this time he was the interpreter for the delegation.

Think about just, just think about this.

Think how

little we must think of our children when these kids,

you know, George Washington at 13, 14 years old, he's surveying, making maps all by himself in Virginia.

I mean, these guys are amazing.

They just don't expect it.

So 14, he's the official interpreter.

He's already fluent in six languages, one of them being Russian, which is why he's chosen to go.

So he grows up doing a lot of this stuff.

When George Washington became president, George Washington chose John Quincy Adams to be America's top ambassador.

When John Adams becomes president, John Quincy Adams is again America's top ambassador.

When Thomas Jefferson becomes president, because of the drama between Jefferson and Adams,

Jefferson does not ask him to remain, but he is elected to be a U.S.

senator.

When Madison becomes president, John Quincy Adams is elected or is chosen again to be America's top diplomat.

John Quincy Adams is the one that negotiates the end of the War of 1812.

Under Monroe, he's elected Secretary of State.

He then became the sixth president.

At the end of his presidency, he knew there was more to his life.

He knew he wasn't done.

Stop.

How much of that did you know about John Quincy Adams?

I know we all grow up knowing John Quincy Adams is the son of John Adams.

Move on.

Think about

what you've missed just not knowing that amount of history, but wait, it gets really good.

I really think John Quincy Adams is probably the most impressive president when it comes to resumes, just genuinely.

So after being president, he feels like his life still has purpose and meaning.

He ends up running for Congress, and the reason was he said there's a great enity, or excuse me, a great evil that has yet to be remedied, and it was the evil of slavery.

He became the leader of the anti-slavery movement in Congress.

While he's there, he fights for 17 years against slavery.

At the time, he said that Congress was nearly 80% of Congress was either in favor of or like totally fine with slavery, just status quo, leave it as it is.

So he knew he had a major uphill battle.

Hey, hang on just a second.

But it was kind of like it is now with the budget, right?

People will say if they're in the right, you know, in the, in a district that happens to agree, they'll say, oh, I am so against it, but they all do it.

That was, and that's what his number was reflecting because there were more congressmen than that that would have said, oh, slavery is wrong.

And then he got there and he's like, these people aren't really against slavery, which is where he came up with a number nearly 80% was fine with it.

They weren't actually fighting against this.

He became the leader of the anti-slavery movement.

In Congress, new congressmen are elected every two years.

His last term, John Quincy Adams, last term in Congress, one of the freshmen that was elected.

came and joins the anti-slavery movement.

John Quincy Adams is doing these impassioned floor speeches every single week against slavery.

And at this point, they've actually passed new

laws, or I guess it's a house rule.

They went to the House Rules Committee.

They passed a new rule that was known as the John Quincy Adams gag order.

It was literally to stop this guy from talking in slavery.

The rule was that you can't talk about any issue that's already been resolved, especially if it's about slavery, right?

Like, just dude, it was your Dunce Adams rule, kind of.

Totally.

Well,

he was able to fight long enough.

That got revoked, but like, this is, this is what John Quincy Adams has dealt with.

So this young freshman joins the anti-slavery movement, John Quincy Adams, just again, every week, making these impassioned pleas, we have to end slavery.

It's evil.

John Quincy Adams gets up one day.

They thought he was going to make a speech.

He had a stroke.

He clutched his chest, fell over his desk.

He ends up dying in the Capitol building.

When he dies,

the anti-slavery movement is incredibly strong in this moment.

He has led this.

There's a lot of people ready to step up.

And this freshman congressman decides

he's going to carry on the torch.

He runs for re-election.

And of course,

people have heard this.

They know the story, right?

He runs for re-election.

He loses.

He runs for re-election, loses, runs for Senate, loses, runs for state office, office, loses.

And this person didn't win another election until he became president, Abraham Lincoln.

And everything that Lincoln did to fight against slavery is what he had learned under John Quincy Adams in the anti-slavery movement of Congress.

Now, here's the question, because

Lincoln at first says, I can't do anything.

I'm a president.

I don't have the power to end slavery.

And so he concentrates on the saving of the Republic.

And people dismiss that as, see, he didn't really care about slaves.

Which is what they say because he gave a speech where he said,

if I could end slavery today and preserve the Union, I would.

If I could keep slavery and preserve the Union, I would, because preserving the Union is the most important thing.

And that's what people discount him saying, because he wasn't really anti-slavery.

That's not correct at all.

He actually was a state legislature in Illinois before he became a congressman.

And he was actually recruited by the Lovejoys in Illinois, who were the leaders of the anti-slavery movement of Illinois.

And they recruited Lincoln to run in the state house as an anti-slavery state legislator.

So Lincoln already has a track record of this.

He has a track record of being mentored to some extent by John Quincy Adams in Congress.

And then he runs on the Republican platform, which that platform is explicitly anti-slavery.

What's also a fun tidbit is in the U.S.

Constitution, it says that no states can form any confederation or make their own treaties, et cetera, has to go through Congress.

So when the southern states begin to secede and form their own confederation, that is literally a violation of the Constitution, which which then gives the president the power to step in and put a stop to it, which leads to the Emancipation Proclamation.

What's really amazing is in the museum where we're at, the Emancipation Proclamation, we have a letter that was written hastily by Lincoln and sent to the Senate and says, stop what you're doing.

It's not going to work.

I have a different idea.

Give me some time.

I'm going to go there with Tim Barton live from Glenn

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So, we're talking to Timothy Barton about history, and we're going to do a lot of history in the next few days as we're here getting ready to celebrate Independence Day.

But we're at the point of John Quincy Adams, he's dead.

Lincoln kind of replaces him as the head of the anti-slavery.

He becomes pregnant.

Why not?

He could.

He's a man, but men can get pregnant.

Anyway, he becomes president.

And

uh

john quincy adams has a son and as john quincy adams his son is now coming of age he kind of repeats the pattern and plays a very important role in

grandpa was the guy who worked on the independence of the united states the declaration of independence then you have john quincy adams who's a president and a strong abolitionist in congress and then his son yeah Well, and to speak of, John Adams is the guy that helped in the American Revolution with the Peace Treaty of Paris.

John Quincy Adams is the guy that helps in the War of 1812.

And also, a fun side note in the War of 1812 is part of our agreement with England at the end of the War of 1812.

Both nations, America and England at that point, had already banned the slave trade.

And we were adamantly, both nations adamantly opposed to the evil of the slave trade.

And John Quincy Adams, part of his agreement with England to end the War of 1812, is that we would send our navies in collaboration off the coast of Africa to turn back any slave ships and try to stop the slave trade from Africa.

Nobody ever talks about that.

That drives me out of my mind.

We had warships trying to stop the slave trade 1813.

It was so

they get over there in 1819, but then they're there from 1819 all the way until 1861.

When the Civil War begins, Lincoln recalls them back in 1861 to come join the Union Army to fight against the Confederate Navy is why the ships came back from Africa at that point.

As the Civil War unfolds, one of the things that the Confederates at this point are sending their leaders over into Europe, they're trying to find allies, and they're beginning courting France.

And France is pretty close to joining the Confederates for all available evidence.

And the ambassador for the North, the Union, was a guy named Charles Francis Adams, the son of John Quincy Adams.

And he goes to the, actually the British and the French and says, guys,

you don't want to do this because I understand they're telling you they're just fighting for their independence.

It's a little more that it's a slavery issue.

And he's being told, well, right, these guys are not saying their number one issue is slavery.

Their number one issue they're saying is freedom and independence from oppression.

And he says, no, no, this is really about slavery.

He says,

just give us a little time.

He says, if you will wait just a few months, it will become very clear this is an issue of slavery.

Well, they wait a few months.

And January 1st, 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation comes out where Lincoln says, all right, we're freeing all the slaves from all of the Confederate states that are currently in rebellion.

And when that happens, that's when France washes their hands and they're like, all right, we're out.

We cannot join in this movement because at this point, France is already coming out against slavery as well.

And they don't want to be supportive of a nation that's fighting to preserve their slaves.

But literally, you have John Adams, John Quincy Adams, and now Charles Francis Adams, who are the ones navigating to help in these wars.

And all of them are very strong anti-slavery individuals.

Wasn't Rush Limbaugh's wife in Adams?

Correct.

Yeah.

Isn't that crazy?

The descendants of, yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

So let me let me go back and talk about the Emancipation Proclamation a bit because Congress had already enacted kind of an emancipation, if you will, and the slaves could be free, but it was...

it was murky and screwed up and then they went back to write it again and we have a letter in the museum from Lincoln, just hastily written to the Senate leader saying, don't adjourn.

Don't adjourn.

I'm working on something.

Tell me that story.

So that was, he was working on what was known as the Second Confiscation Act.

And that is, the confiscation acts was a little bit of the precursor to the Emancipation Proclamation.

But the idea was because these states are in rebellion,

then we have the power and authority to go in and step in and seize some of these things, which is also, for people listening, this is where some individuals in the South are like, Lincoln was a tyrant.

Look at what he did.

And even though certainly that could be very tyrannical, depending on what your position was in the South, because there are absolutely indications that there were some people in the South that were thrust in the middle of this that had some of their property confiscated.

And literally they're like, we weren't even trying to fight you guys right now.

Or there were some Confederates who, once they were captured in a war, they were, there's some interviews that were done.

And some of these interviews are worth note, where Union officers would ask them, you guys seem like honorable people, right?

We're trying to end slavery and yet you're fighting against us.

Why are you doing this?

And they said, well, it's because you were on my land.

And we say that to give a little context because the political position of the South was very clear, but not everybody supported that.

And it's a little bit like our...

And I think not everybody was aware.

Well, and to make the full connection, it's like our political leaders today, right?

Like, do we fully support what President Biden or what Nancy Pelosi or some of our congressional leaders, even right now, the Republicans, like, do we we fully support everything they're doing?

Of course not.

But they...

If we go to war with Russia, how many people that voted for Joe Biden are going to be like, yeah, absolutely, I'm for it.

I don't think most people on either side know what the hell we're doing over there.

No, and this is, I think, where there were definitely people in the South that did not support that position.

But the political leaders were very clear.

And historically, politicians write checks all the time.

They make their people cash.

And it's not always great for the people cashing the checks.

However, with that being said, the document we have is Lincoln writing the Senate saying, guys, I know you're about to adjourn.

Stay a little longer.

I'm working on something.

It was a second confiscation act.

It was the update to the first confiscation act saying that those individuals in rebellion, that they can, at this point, they would forfeit some of their property, their possessions.

Well, this leads to the Emancipation Proclamation.

And as we just celebrated June 19th, there's many people thinking, right, well, that's when slavery ended.

Well, again, that's like we have so many dumb historical assessments in America today that's not correct.

June 19th is when Gordon Granger, a Union officer, arrived in Galveston, Texas.

He makes the announcement that, hey, the Civil War is over and Emancipation Proclamation has happened.

And there were slaves in Texas that had not heard any of that news.

They didn't know the Civil War is over, that they were freed.

So this was an incredible celebration.

Well, this is more than two years after the Emancipation Proclamation came out.

That's crazy.

What's also worth noting about this is that the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to those states that were actively in rebellion in the Civil War.

And there were some states that had already been retaken by the Union before the Emancipation Proclamation.

And there were some states that were pro-slavery, that had slaves, but that supported the Union.

And so the Emancipation Proclamation did not free all the slaves in America.

So even June 19th, when people say, this is what ended slavery.

No, it's not.

There's a reason we had the 13th Amendment.

And the 13th Amendment is what actually ended slavery in America in the sense of what we knew from African slavery.

No, slavery in America, in the sense that we knew of African slavery.

Yes, I guess you're technically right.

In America, but not in the

map of America

because there's another country, several other countries.

Several other countries.

In our country.

Correct.

That we always forget about.

Right.

So one of the things that we, as you're alluding to, we forget about is there are sovereign nations that live inside the United States of America.

And those sovereign nations are Indian nations.

And in those, so there were several tribes.

At that point, the 1860 census identified there were five major tribes.

And all those tribes, they had African slaves.

In fact, I think it was

12 or 13% of those tribes were African slaves.

It was the census data that came out from, I believe it was 1860 is when that's from.

But the American government had to do new treaties with those Indian tribes to get them to free their slaves after the 13th Amendment is passed and ratified.

And in it, we ended up paying those nations, essentially, essentially, right?

It's like we bought the slaves and then freed the slaves of the American government.

But even once America ended slavery, that's not to your point when slavery exactly ended in the territory of the United States of America because there were sovereign nations, the Indian nations, that still had slaves.

But the American government was so set at that point on ending slavery that they were going at that point actively to those tribes saying, what can we do?

Let's renegotiate.

And then there were new treaties written saying that there could be no further slavery in those tribes.

So how long was it before slavery was truly ended in the territorial United States?

The following year is when they went to those tribes, and then the treaty was written several years after.

But I believe

all of the slaves had already been freed in that following year.

So I would say really by 1866 is when practically slavery is ended in America.

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I'm going to see if I can get

Stephen Mansfield on because he's got a different look at Lincoln.

I really think it's important that we learn the good side and the bad side of everybody and of every country.

And, you know, we've done monstrous things in our country,

but we've also done some really glorious things.

Mansfield has a book out about Lincoln's battle with God.

And he really was

before he

found God or found his way, he was really kind of a dark dude, wasn't he?

Lincoln did embrace and really go a very different direction than what he's remembered for in a lot of respects, where you've identified before, you've talked about it, where Lincoln grew up in a very abusive home.

His father was a Christian, but he was an alcoholic.

He beat Lincoln.

He beat the mom.

And so when Lincoln kind of comes of age and leaves home, he decides he's going to be an atheist because he can't stand what his father did.

And if his father represents Christianity, he wanted nothing to do with it.

So Lincoln ran headlong in the opposite direction.

And Lincoln becomes an avid, outspoken atheist.

He hates Christianity.

He begins visiting brothels, has many mental breakdowns, many of them associated to.

He thought he, because he had been visiting these brothels, he thought he had contracted syphilis and was going to die of syphilis.

And

when you see Lincoln, it's very evident he was running as far away as he could from what he had heard is what Christianity was.

And that is absolutely not the story we generally get of Lincoln.

But it's also, as you're saying, we want to learn the good and bad.

I mean, really, what you're indicating is we want to learn the true story.

And if

it's, it's one thing that I think is important too to balance is if we're looking, for example, at George Washington and saying, we need to learn the good and bad, we'll learn the whole story.

And if someone says, but you're highlighting more good about Washington than bad, well, that's because you're going to find way more good in his life than bad.

Right.

And

the bad would have just led to his personal destruction.

The bad in Lincoln really stopped before he gained public office, and it's not what he did.

The good is what you remember him for.

If he were visiting brothels and everything else while he were president, it would probably play a bigger important role.

But you're not held to things of your past if you repent for them or pay the, you know, the civil price if you broke the law.

And that's where, as even we navigate history, there are some people that say you need to balance it and say as many good things as bad things.

And that's just not honest or accurate historically.

Some people had way more bad than good.

Some had way more good than bad, but you want to learn the honest story.

You notice nobody says that about Hitler.

Right?

Yeah.

Nobody says, well, you want to.

You know the good things.

Yeah, well, he invented freeways.

Okay,

that doesn't really balance anything.

Wasn't he an artist too?

Yeah, he was an artist.

I heard all artists have a dark side.

Well, no,

not all artists.

Timothy Barton from WallBuilders.com.

They do just amazing work with teachers, with education, history.

They are really, they're my good, dear friends and have done so much

unsung good.

And it's a privilege to have you on.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thank you, Timothy.

Tim Barton on the Glenbeck program from WallBuilders.com.

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What does it say about the Republican Party that the next guy down is Ron DeSantis, who is running the most openly fascist campaign I think I've ever seen.

And I'm saying that having covered Donald Trump running for president, that's the next guy down.

Yeah, I mean, I suppose if you're inside DeSantis war room, you've got to think of a way to get yourself indicted to get up ahead of Donald Trump.

That's funny.

You know, this just goes to

my point that this is what the party wants to be.

And

it's a hard thing for a lot of us who worked in the party to accept that we helped create this monarch, but we did.

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this is very purposeful by the party.

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Their second choice is a guy who is worse than Trump.

Oh, there we go.

There we go.

All right.

That's from, by the way, noted homophobe Joey Reed's program talking once again about now DeSantis is worse than Trump.

And this is what happens every single time a Republican runs for office.

And we've, obviously, Trump gets the worst of this probably over the past few years.

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And now the new guy who's behind Trump in the polls is gonna be worse than Trump.

It's the same story over and over and over again.

And why would anyone believe it?

We'll have more tomorrow here on the Glen Back Program.

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