Ep 184 | CHILLING: Veteran DESTROYED by Deep State. Are You Next? | Mike Glover | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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The FBI began targeting Mike Glover, a former Green Beret who also worked for the CIA, after he founded a company that taught people how to be self-reliant. To Mike, the message was clear: The U.S. government will destroy anyone it cannot control. Why else would officials target a veteran who served 10 tours of duty, with five rotations in Iraq conducting elite operations? But Mike tells Glenn that this is happening all across the country: “The system is flawed,” and only a reset will fix it. He offers insight into the elite operations we are never told about, lifting the veil on the inner workings of the CIA and FBI, which he believes are acting like the enemy of the people. As a former Green Beret who worked closely with the CIA, he has personally seen how government bloat and corruption make situations like the 2012 Benghazi attack even worse. Plus, he explains why he is “100%” certain that Jeffrey Epstein was working with the intelligence community. But despite all he’s seen and all the attacks against him, he’s not backing down. As owner and CEO of Fieldcraft Survival, he teaches people how to be their own first responders and even survive a total disaster. His upcoming book, “Prepared: A Manual for Surviving Worst-Case Scenarios,” is a practical guide for resilience in the face of the apocalypse, which very well could happen sooner than later.

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Meanwhile, the FBI has labeled today's guest a domestic terrorist and a white supremacist.

He's a vet, and he's an Asian, so just on the surface, it doesn't work.

And when I say vet, I mean he's a former Green Beret who in his 18-year career in the Army rose to the rank of a sergeant major in the special forces.

He served 10 tours of duty, five rotations in Iraq, conducting elite operations.

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A whistleblower revealed that the FBI had targeted his company called the American Contingency.

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Hey, Mike.

How are you, man?

Good.

How are you?

Thanks for having me on, man.

You bet.

You know, I know I'm on all kinds of lists with the government, but I don't think I've ever seen anybody

that is clearly a good guy treated like you are being treated by the FBI.

It's an amazing story.

Can you tell people who don't know the story what's happening to you?

Yeah,

it actually started a couple years ago, as I found out later through Project Veritas'

work.

This later came out, but I started American Contingency, an organization that was community-based, based on people not having the ability to network and connect in time of crisis.

It's kind of what we do at my company, Field Crowd Survival.

And as soon as that got released, according to the reports from Project Veritas, analysts at the FBI determined that I was a potential threat.

And my group, American Contingency, was a militant, violent, extremist organization.

Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Facilitating.

Wait.

So

I want to take this apart a little bit.

What is the American Contingency?

What were you training people to do?

So American Contingency's goal and objective, its mission statement since the origin, was to provide a forum for people to help each other during a time of disaster, natural or man-made, civil unrest to hurricane, anything in between.

So it was basically a forum for people to communicate.

All right.

So it was online?

Yeah, it was AmericanContingency.com is where we started the organization.

Okay, and you were then...

Your theory is when that communication goes down, you have to know your neighbors.

You have to be able to get word for help.

I mean,

that sounds like what the Mormons do.

They have an exactly right.

Right.

And their community can come together because everybody is watching over one another and taking care of each other in an emergency.

So was it?

I was just going to say, I live in Hebrews City, Utah.

61% of my population is Mormon.

I am not.

My employees are.

But that foundation actually comes from that level of preparedness with community and resilience built in people, not technology, you know, not in institutions, but in people coming together.

Correct.

You know, it's almost as if, you know, I asked on the air today,

is the government,

their actions, are they making you more independent

and safer, or are they making you

weaker and dependent on them and this entire system that is collapsing?

As everything is collapsing, they're taking away your ability to

help yourself and your community.

I mean, what you're described, there's not only the way the Mormons live, but it is also the way our country was founded.

That's the republic that you're describing.

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

I think the problem in this whole thing that we were doing was essentially we were advocating for independence.

We were advocating for self-reliance.

And a government that's business model is based off control doesn't like that.

So we are targeted, me as an individual, my organization, even my company, Phil Craft Survival, that teaches preparedness as these are potentially the bad guys here because they're pulling us away.

While we're trying to cut the umbilical cord, develop resilience and self-reliance in people, they're saying, saying, hey, this is a potential threat to the government.

And that was the overarching problem.

So is there anything that was happening online that you can look at and go, okay, well, some dork said this or whatever that

because they called you an extremist, I believe you've been a white supremacist and a domestic terrorist.

Yeah, the interesting thing is I was labeled a white nationalist, a right-wing extremist, all these things, all these labels.

They even did

a liberal organization, I would say extreme organization media group did a hit piece on me that was like 30 pages long.

Like a lot of respect for coming up with 30 pages of fiction.

But

I'm actually half Korean.

My dad was in the army stationed in Korea where he met my beautiful mother

in the army in the 80s.

And I'm like,

how do I become labeled a white nationalist when I'm half Korean?

Most of my employees are minorities.

I'm service, disabled, connected, military veteran, like fit all the parameters of all the things

in that narrative, and they're attacking me.

And that was, that hurt.

I mean, to be honest, it was like, I worked for the CIA, I worked in special operations for a long period of time in the Army, and that was devastating to see that kind of attack on us.

And I think the problem is it started as

this thing that was unbeknownst to us because we were getting suppressed on all the social media channels.

Facebook deleted American contendency and blocked us out.

Shopify deleted my business account.

They literally said you have 72 hours to collect your information, and then we're deleting your account with no,

like no way to rebut what they were proposing, that we were doing something wrong on the platform.

And not telling what we thought you did.

Not telling us anything.

And what we found out later was the government had a deal with big tech, and they were communicating all of the people they didn't want

on open channels, and they were suppressing our First Amendment rights.

They were shutting us down by destroying our business, and they tried to do it.

And by all accounts, they did.

If we didn't have the ability to flex and adapt, then we would have just been out of business.

But it was difficult, to say the least.

So it's amazing to me.

You're at Green Beret.

You've served honorably.

You have, I mean, you've done more in your lifetime to serve the country than I certainly have.

And

now your country

is coming after you.

That has to really hurt.

Yeah.

Yeah,

it's devastating.

I knew this kind of thing existed.

I experienced the politics at a high level when I was a sergeant major in special forces.

I witnessed that.

That's one of the reasons why I stepped aside because I was like,

I want to do something for myself for once.

I thought I selflessly served for a period of time.

I earned it.

I felt like I earned it.

So I stepped aside and said, I'm going to do this American dream, this entrepreneurship journey, which I grew up with with my mom owning a small business in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

The devastating thing was I had no say in it.

I had no chance to speak my case.

And, you know, luckily for the opportunities I've been given, even here being able to tell my story, most people are able to tell their story.

And I'm afraid this is likely happening across the country to a lot of people, including veterans.

Yeah.

Things have changed so much.

I mean, I remember in 2016, I mean, I've known this stuff has gone on.

I've known

that there's some sort of shadow gates that you have to walk through.

You know what I mean?

It's a collection of people that

pretty much

oversee things.

And you're not getting anywhere

unless you're part of that group.

But I don't mean it like a star chamber way.

It's just kind of a loose collection.

That's what I used to think.

I don't believe that anymore.

I mean, I used to believe in the FBI.

I used to believe in law and order.

I used to believe in our CIA or the NSA.

Even when,

what's his name, came out with all of the information on spying on us,

I still was like, well, that's probably not the core.

I really truly believe now that they see the American people as a greater enemy than they see our legitimate enemies overseas.

Yeah,

that's spot on.

I mean, when I was at Six Sauers Academy recently and I had the head of the Joint Terrorism Task Force on the East Coast, I won't name his station because I don't want to compromise him.

He's a high-level FBI employee.

I mean, he's a supervisor in charge of that segment of the organization.

He came out, drove out to the SIG Academy and pulled me aside in the middle of a parking lot at Sig Sour Academy in New Hampshire and said, Mike, I want to talk to you.

And the first thing I said was like, oh, why is there an FBI guy talking to me?

Correct.

And he said, hey, I wanted to communicate to you a couple of things.

And he said, formally, on the record, I want to say I apologize on behalf of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which I'll take with a grain of salt.

But what he said informally, he said, I'm a member of American Contingency, not because I'm spying on you, not because I'm seeing if you're doing wrong.

I'm a member because I believe in your mission.

And he said, a lot of men and women that I work with believe in your mission, but at the deep root of it all, there is a political drive to fit a narrative that we cannot combat.

He said, in the history, this is a 30-plus year veteran.

of the FBI.

He's been in hostage rescue.

He's done the tactical things.

He's done the investigative things.

And now he's in charge.

And he says he can't combat the deep state.

And he's dropped this paperwork because he's going to retire because he can't deal with it.

See, that's afraid.

That's a huge problem.

I mean, if good guys resign, they're going to be replaced with really bad guys.

And then, you know, we become the SS.

This is really not good.

Do you believe that there's enough people

in the institutions that if they would

screw their courage to the sticking place that they could gather together and

stop this, expose it

it's that look kyle serafan who is an fbi agent it was the original whistleblower blower on this whole deal he's the one who basically said the parent-teacher conference thing where the fbi was targeting parents at these conferences speaking their mind you know just exercising their first amendment rights the deal with me with an analyst basically targeting me like what they don't like on the surface a civilian would read that and go oh Mike wasn't targeted.

When you're identified by the FBI as potentially being a risk, there is an allocation of funds and resources that are allocated towards you and targeting.

I know this because I did this for a living with the FBI overseas against terrorists.

So I understand exactly how it works.

And it's not as easy as saying, oh, well, Mike was just identified for an open source kind of deal.

No, no.

An analyst who was doing open source research initially pinpointed me, and that was put in an allocation resource.

And from what I saw, no counter surveillance or surveillance assets were utilized.

But that's just my case.

How many Americans are being investigated?

Like Edward Snowden report with the NSA.

How many of these civilians in our country And

all of their rights are being violated and they don't know about it because they're looking in instead of looking out?

They should be looking at ISIS, one of the most

significant threats of our time that didn't just die off.

They still exist.

We should be focused on that, but instead we're focused on the number one threat to domestic security is white nationalist.

It's like, what?

There is no evidence of that.

There's no proof of that.

And you're coming after a half-Korean guy.

You know what I mean?

Like, who has checked all the blocks?

Here's what I'll tell you, Glenn, which is, I was dumbfounded by.

In the report from Project Veritas, they literally investigated me, went into my DD214, which is my open service record, which is probably a public record anyway, which is fine.

But then they went to veteran affairs and looked into all of my disability and all of my post-traumatic records for everything.

So I was like, wait a minute.

So what were they trying to glean from that?

Was it a red flag kind of thing?

Were they looking for all the signs and symptoms of somebody who is crazy?

And it's like, what a violation.

As a small business owner who's just trying to do good in the country, what a violation.

After all the suppression, after all it's said and done, what hurts the most, it's like, those are dudes that I work with.

I mean, those FBI hostage rescue guys are dudes that I was stood next to on targets killing bad guys for this country.

And here I am being investigated by those same guys.

And that's what hurts the most.

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we have corruption at levels I've never seen before.

We have things coming out from whistleblowers all the time.

I don't know if you heard about the whistleblower

on 9-11.

You know, it just came out, this extra news, that came out and said the CIA was running internal to the United States, internal ops.

And they knew those hijackers were here, and they were trying to recruit those hijackers to work for the CIA.

And we hear about this 20 years later.

They have 11 FBI agents,

I think five or six former CIA.

You've got

one of the former heads, I think, of the CIA, a U.S.

senator, all cooperating this.

Nobody's even talking about it in the news.

Nobody just says like

it's nowhere.

Why?

Yeah,

it's a problem because what's happening now in mainstream media that's creating the narrative, which is, I think, the most important reason why places like yours exist, is because we could actually seep through all the sabotage and the propaganda and actually get to the truth.

The overarching problem now is all of these things are going on at a great rate, and they've been going on.

I mean, the last time I checked when I got my degree from American Military University, part-timing the degree in between operations overseas was there were 17 organizations in the intelligence community.

And

that has thus increased between now and the GWAT, the Global War on Terror.

And what does that mean?

Well, it means redundancy, not a lot of communication, a whole bunch of government officials and politicians and GS service members basically competing against each other.

And what we get is we get an absence of the truth.

and we get a whole bunch of mistakes being made.

I saw it firsthand.

I mean, I was in a remote base in the middle of Yemen where the main chief of that base didn't know what was going on in his backyard.

And I'm like, I saw that level of incompetence at the highest level tactically.

And I'm like, how did the chief not know that we just dropped a bomb on bad guys like a couple miles down the road?

And he's the base, he's like the chief of base.

It started to make me question because I thought Like a special operations guy's path, his progressive development leads you to paramilitary operations in the CIA.

And you think that's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Like you do all this hard work as an infantryman, as an operator, as a green beret, and you're like, that's where I want to be until you like pull the curtain back and realize, yes, great Americans, patriots, good people doing good things, but the system is inherently flawed.

And I saw all of that.

It was a nightmare.

It was a mess.

And it made me realize I just need to get back to basics.

So I just want to go home.

So when you say the system is flawed, what do you mean by that?

Well, let me give you an example.

I worked for the CIA.

I was a contractor.

I've openly discussed that.

I was a global response staff officer for the CIA.

The guys in 13 Hours in Benghazi, in Libya, some of those guys are the guys that actually recruited me.

Amazing Americans, like some of the best people that I know.

The problem is, let's take the CIA, for example.

The CIA doesn't talk to anybody because the CIA is basically its own business.

I mean, in CIA headquarters, there's like a Starbucks there that probably does better than any place on planet Earth because that's the hub, right?

That's the business center for the CIA.

The CIA has operational control and intelligence control over any other agency, including the Department of Defense.

So in Afghanistan, early in the Global War on Terror, 04, 05 timeframe, I would get calls in the fire base where somebody would pick up the phone, or somebody pick up the phone and say, hey,

somebody from an interagency, an interagency.

And they get on the phone like, yeah, what's up?

I was in charge of force protection at our fire base.

They said, hey, you're going to get an impending attack in the next 12 hours.

Be prepared.

And they'd hang up the phone.

And I'm like,

this is a secure line, right?

Like, yeah.

Well, somebody just called from the interagency, said, we're going to get attacked in the next 12 hours and hung up the phone.

Oh, that's probably the CIA.

I didn't know any better.

I was a young staff sergeant, Green Beret, cherry to the whole entire deal.

My team sergeant, team leader, they knew better.

And they're like, oh, yeah, that's how the CIA operates.

Like, wait a minute.

So they operate by cold calling bases and telling him, hey, you guys are going to get attacked in the next 12 hours and hang up the phone with no communication.

And that's a microcosm of the scale that we're dealing with, where every interagency, the NRO, the NSA, name it, they're all competing for the same deal.

And the problem is that elicits a lot of difficult things, including corruption, that you are later going to deal with and reflect back on 20 years from now.

We saw it with the Afghan-Russia campaign.

We saw it with the rise of al-Qaeda.

I mean, Osama bin Laden.

We saw it with the Vietnam War, with Ho Chi Minh.

Ho Chi Minh was trained by the Office of Strategic Services,

the OSS, the precursor to the CIA and Green Berets.

And I love this stuff.

I was a Green Beret.

I was in the CIA.

I love this stuff and I respect these men greatly.

But because of the bureaucracy, because of the political agendas, this is the stuff that we're seeing.

Last point, I was involved in the whole deal with Libya.

I was the first Green Beret to deploy post-Benghazi to Libya to go after the terrorists that were involved

in this attack on our embassy.

There were four Americans that were killed, if we remember that, which most of us don't.

Two GRS officers and the ambassador, Ambassador Stevens, who was a great American.

And we knew, task force knew, the most elite organization in counterterrorism knew.

In 60 days who that terrorist was and where he lived, and we could target him.

His name was Abu Qatala.

We wounded up rolling him up later, years later, and he's probably in Guantanamo right now.

But we had all of the evidence to present the target packet.

And when we presented that target packet, I was in the room with my three guys and then two members of a special operations unit.

And we said, we can go kill this guy right now.

And the charge at the time, which was Alexander Pope, said,

It is not the right political climate and we can't do it.

And I just call him by his first name, Jim, who worked worked for USASOC, U.S.

Army Special Operations Command.

He stood up and he said, you have to be kidding me.

Your ambassador was killed by this man and al-Qaeda.

We have his bed down and you're not willing to execute this because you need chief of mission.

You need the country approval of the ambassador.

And he said it was too political of a climate in order to do this operation.

And he threw the packet down and we stormed out of the room.

And it was the last trip I did in a full-time capacity in the military because after that rotation, I came back and I whistle blew myself on Fox News

all of this thing that was going on in the shadows and said, we knew where he was.

We had the ability to target and kill him and we did nothing about it.

The FBI was involved in that and stagnating that whole operation.

And I was like, what the hell is going on?

And it was my first glimpse, which is over 15 years ago, my first glimpse at the corruption that existed at high levels in the government, not allowing guys like me and guys like my peers to do their job, do the right thing.

So we did some investigating on this, and we didn't have

drop-dead evidence, but it appeared as though somebody was running guns,

which eventually ended up in ISIS

in Syria.

And that's why nobody wanted to send in the troops.

Why didn't we at least fly planes

with afterburners very low to the ground?

It would have dispersed that crowd probably pretty easily.

Yeah,

there's a couple issues there.

I mean, one,

if it wasn't for the members of USASOC, the two military guys that were not very well depicted in the movie 13 Hours in Menghazi, if it wasn't for them activating this Haas's rescue operation, they wouldn't have been able to get on a private jet with the GRS guys to go rescue

these CIA and State Department employees that were basically held captive.

I mean, they weren't at that point held captive.

They were fighting their last stand.

But imagine if Al-Qaeda took that compound over, you would have the biggest American citizen Haas's rescue debacle in American history because they would be all over the continent of Africa and there would be Americans looking for them.

So, when they got overhead,

they started activating the cause.

They got denied several times by AFRICOM and SOCAS, Special Operations Command Africa.

We had all the capability, all the resources, and we didn't do our job.

Why?

I mean,

it was all political.

I mean, from what I read, from the mini meetings that I did when I was in Libya October of 2012, I mean,

I was in the USASOC headquarters during the time that this was going down, reviewing all of the things that were happening operationally because I knew I was going to be on the next thing smoking down to Libya.

We didn't do it simply because it went against the political narrative and would have shook the tree.

They were risk adverse because they didn't want to risk their careers.

That's the reason we didn't do anything.

And what did that cost?

What cost cost American lives?

I mean, it cost a lot of American lives, including, I believe, Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty, the GRS staff office.

If they would have changed the way they did things on the ground, they wouldn't have been on that rooftop and they wouldn't have took those motor rounds and they wouldn't have sacrificed their lives.

Unfortunately, for the analysts and Ambassador Stevens, it was too late, too far gone at that time.

But more important to me, as somebody who looks at this and goes, okay, what are we going to do about about it?

The bad thing happened.

Now, what are we going to do about it?

The fact we did nothing about it drives me bonkers.

It drives me sad.

I think this is the problem that Americans have on almost every front.

Nobody paid for Benghazi.

We didn't learn a damn thing.

They covered it up with some stupid film thing.

And we all knew, but nobody had to pay a price.

We go into Afghanistan.

We have

people holding on to our planes and dropping from the sky, and our Pentagon says, we didn't see a problem.

No one has had to pay for any of this.

You just get to a point to where you look at it and say, I'm sorry.

Can you actually be this incompetent over and over and over again,

where not one thing falls in the favor of the United States.

It all falls in the favor of our enemies.

But how do we possibly get better if we don't self-examine?

And,

you know, I don't think Americans would have had a problem if they would have come after Benghazi and said, we screwed that up.

We screwed it up.

Here's where we did wrong.

But they don't ever do that.

So,

how do we ever get any better?

How do we not just breed more incompetence and more corruption?

I think it's a, I mean, it's a million-dollar question, but I also, I think part of the reason this exists in our country today is because we've seen that our political system is broken.

Look,

I have, if you had asked me this a year ago, I wouldn't have said anything like that.

I would have said, hey, man, it's just people.

Human beings are inherently flawed.

You know, there's a path.

There's a way.

And now now, after seeing my peers, like one of the Lattrell brothers, like he's in Congress now, Eli Crane, a Navy SEAL that I worked with overseas, these men are fighting the fight.

There's good women fighting the fight, but they are not making any headway.

All of the things they're telling me are, look, man, this is impossible.

And what I've seen is like, we will hold, when I was in the military, if you mishandled classified documents or material of any kind, it was the end of your career.

I saw good men and women completely lose their career 20 years in for the mishandling of classified material.

But if you're a politician, you're not only given immunity, but you could go on to professionally develop and be in higher positions.

That is like a classic like officer bureaucracy issue that we see in the military, where there's too many officers in special operations, and this has kind of been an issue.

Take that and amplify amplify it by a thousand.

And that's what we're looking at with politicians.

They have complete immunity.

They could do whatever they want, whenever they want, and nobody's held accountable.

What system is in place to hold them accountable?

There's not one.

The

inspector general will line it out and give you a narrative and recommendations, but the Justice Department that works for the current administration won't go after the current administration.

So there will be no accountability held on either side of it.

And these guys make make millions, hundreds of millions of dollars while in office.

And they get out and they do their speaking engagements and they live these lush and plush lives still supported by the taxpayer.

When I was in the Army, I couldn't moonlight, I wanted to bounce at a local night establishment because I could get paid well and it's something that I was good at, right?

I was good at physical confrontation.

If I did that, I would have to get judge advocate approval at the battalion level.

And if they caught me doing it i would lose my job they would rip my special forces tab off my left shoulder if i was caught doing that and you look at these guys in in our political system and it's like on so many levels it's not just incompetence it's complete corruption and it's chaos now it's like you almost like for the first time i've looked at this and go how do you you you have to reset this yeah there's no way that you could instill some kind of policy some kind of mandate you would literally have to start up.

I don't see any other way.

I will tell you, I keep saying we need to unplug it and plug it back in and restore the factory settings.

But how you do that

is beyond me.

I mean,

how do you shut down the CIA

or the FBI

and not make the country vulnerable?

How do you get rid of all of the bad guys that are there?

Because they'll all hide.

They know the framework.

I mean, how do you do it?

It's literally an impossible task.

I mean, the problem with corruption is individuals who have their ideology are infiltrated into these organizations.

And then the staff supervisors, the people in charge, the managers, These guys are giving them the latitude to take their ideology and enact and execute it it and immerse it in the narrative of what their mission and protocol is, which, by the way, all their missions and all their protocols have nothing to do with politics.

But even at the nuanced level, let me give an example.

If a case officer is writing a cable that has good intelligence in that cable, Because of their ideology, and let's just use wokeness as an example, they will create a cable and Intel report that has certain factors or variables that are

part of that narrative and woke culture.

So when you take that in scale across 17 organizations that are doing the same thing in the military, it is literally a cancer eating every institution inside out.

I mean, I hear it from the military side all the time, where now because of this inclusive nature of everything, they can't get the job done.

When I was in the Army, there was was no gender.

It was you were a private, you were a private first class, you were a sergeant, you were held accountable by your rank, your profession.

That was your virtue, not

what you decided to be when you woke up, because everybody was equal in that sense.

So when I see all these things affecting everybody from the inside out, the only way to do it is take over every single institution with the right leadership from the onset.

And I'll give you one example of one case where I think it could work.

And

this is a hardcore case of it.

But imagine Jocko is president of the United States and Tulsi Gabbard is the VP.

Because Jocko and Tulsi Gabbard come from a military operational background and they understand how this works in institutions and culture, they would put every single leader in every important

administrative position with somebody they trust, somebody who likely has a similar background and context, and they know that decentralizing these people is proxy going to benefit the entire institution.

That is literally the only way I could see this working out.

When they say, Mike, go be the ambassador of this country because we know we could trust you to be in that position.

Navy, SEAL, veteran, commander, whoever from Jocko's side, go be and take over the CIA.

You know how this works operationally.

But instead, we have the best buddies who are political pawns, who have no context and experience, are put in charge of these organizations that literally have no,

there's no reason for them to be in charge other than they're just getting favoritism from their friends.

And that's a distinct problem.

That would be me, that would be like me being in charge of a special forces group and saying, hey, all my civilian buddies that I drink beer with on the weekends, you're going to be in charge of all these green berets and we're going to go to war.

That is the place that that we're at right now with the level of incompetence and corruption.

And like your analogy,

the great reset, I used the Nintendo cartridge where the only way you can get a Nintendo cartridge to work back in the day was pull it out and blow out all the dust and put it back in.

We have to defraggle our government one step at a time.

And the only saving hope.

is the right leader in a presidential position who has the right team that resets and basically spends four years consulting and defraggling the institution and hopefully gets four more years where he could basically get to work because it's going to take four years just to unscrew the current situation we're in.

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You know, when Epstein committed suicide,

you know, everybody was like, oh, it was a Clintons.

And, you know, for fun, you can go down that road and, you know, okay, maybe Hillary was in the cell.

But I thought it was really suspicious.

I thought,

that does not look like a suicide.

But

I didn't know who did what or anything else.

As things begin to fall together, it all falls together with this

same group of people, and they're all connected.

to the intelligence community.

Why are we not finding things out?

Because the intelligence community has co-opted our media.

All of their unnamed sources are always a former official or a current official in one of the intelligence community, and they're always lies.

And then when they're exposed, the media doesn't say, well, I'm not listening to that guy again.

So there must be some sort of co-opting going on.

And as you look at Epstein and the connection now with the banks and the connection with the intelligence community,

Was he an operative

doing horrible things,

you know, a really horrible honeypot situation?

Was he doing things for either our intelligence agencies or others?

And that's why nobody's looking into any of this stuff?

So, you know, I have a TS, I had a top secret

SCI clearance with both the CIA and the military.

I mean, they're very distinct and different classifications of clearances.

From everything that I've seen, everything that I've analyzed and assessed, all the news reports, because I've gone down the rabbit hole, 100% that was an Intel collection operation.

Yeah.

There's no doubt in my mind.

And

look, to give CIA credit, there's a lot of these types of things they do, which benefit our intelligence understanding, whether it's

framing people or putting them in a weird way.

The benefit exists.

The problem is

the CIA, because it's not held accountable for a lot of these things, because they could stamp covert action on the document.

They could literally classify anything at any time period they want where nobody, because it's a compartmentalized operation, nobody will have access to that.

It's called a special access program.

I mean, I've been involved in special access programs in the military where only a handful of people in my own organization knew about it.

And so when you're part of a SAP program, when it's covert action, when you have no obligation to communicate what you're doing to Congress, to people, and it's just something that's done in the basement of a building inside of Langley headquarters, that is a problem.

Because now we're.

How does that happen with no oversight?

You can't run a country like this where you have organizations and people that can say, we're not telling Congress.

That is no longer a country of, by, and for the people.

Yeah, it's very disturbing.

I mean, if you watch the recent congressional hearings with the head of Department of Homeland Security, the head of immigration, the list goes on.

I mean, they've been getting the gauntlet and being grilled by Congress.

The attitude from the institution, from the government, is we don't have to say anything to you.

It's like you work for Congress.

Congress works for constituents.

Constituents are the American people.

We forget that representatives are there to do a job to get accountability.

And what we're seeing from these questioning sessions is the government's attitude is: we don't have to answer any of this.

We don't work for you.

It's like we've we've gotten this all wrong.

Correct.

And that's part of the reason why I think a reset's necessary, because I think the government has lost itself in understanding what it represents.

It represents the people and

this whole we the people idea

in Washington, D.C.

has gone completely off script.

And now it's all about sole proprietorship.

And I think that's where we're seeing the problem.

When you can go into an elected position and stay for 50-plus years, come in worth nothing, come out worth hundreds of millions of dollars, there's a problem.

That's a problem.

Yeah, that's a real problem.

So,

we are getting close to running out of time.

I can't believe how fast this has gone.

I

quickly,

because I want to talk a little bit about

the American people

and anger.

What first

are you worried about?

What scenario are you worried about most when you think of the thing melting down?

Is it the banking?

Is it AI?

Is it

an EMP,

a

power hack?

What do you worry most about?

Most likely to happen, do you think?

Most likely to happen is the integration of AI on a scale we've never seen before.

Yeah.

Building and driving emotions that lead to people hitting the streets and civil unrest, and then people trying to burn down the institutions.

Look, this is worst case scenario specifically.

Civil unrest happens, cops get in gunfights with civilians, civilians get in gunfights with police officers.

Now police can't go out and police.

Now you have anarchy because then you have patriots like me who are going to protect their own community.

They come out of the woodwork, and then you have pockets of resistance across the country where the government's trying to gain control but they don't have the aptitude nor capacity to gain control and then

settle nor the trust

nor most significantly the trust and then what you will see is a decentralization of states locking down their own borders i mean i live in the wonderful state of utah who by all at least on the surface means is not subsiding to all this wokeness,

all this political drama.

But if we lock lock down our borders against people in California and Washington State, what would that look like?

And all these other states, like I started American Contingency because of CHAS, which is that little microcosm of wokeness that exists in Seattle.

We're likely to see AI on an unprecedented scale affect emotions because it learns behavior and can be deployed across the globe.

And that's not just coming from Americans

internal, that's foreign adversaries using the algorithms, the AI, to generate the emotions.

I mean, let why combat us when you could let the AI

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Yeah.

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in this first quarter, the first month of the quarter, it was up by 40%.

And that's pretty bad.

But over the entire quarter, it's up 527%.

Chat GPT come to mind at all?

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I just don't think people understand.

Well, at least I kind of hope they don't understand.

Otherwise, they're just,

I don't know, just willing to become a slave.

But I don't think people understand how dire the the situation is.

You know, it's never happened here before.

You know,

the government going completely dark,

you know,

except for the Civil War, Americans fighting each other, but that was North and South.

This is going to be every city, every neighborhood, every family.

And we don't have the supply chains.

We don't have the things to even produce medicine at this point.

It could get really ugly.

Here's the thing that I'd like to get your opinion on.

When these things have happened before,

we've had people like

Abraham Lincoln,

George Washington, Martin Luther King,

people that

At the end of the Civil War, the first attempt by John Wilkes Booth on Abraham Lincoln happened.

I have the only picture of Lincoln and Booth in the same photograph.

And Booth is up at the top of the stairs of the Capitol, and Lincoln is giving his second inaugural address.

Booth knew that if there's not hatred, The South will not fight again, and he wanted them to rise back up and hit him again.

And

when he heard Lincoln say, with

malice toward none and charity for all, let us bind the wounds of this nation, he lost his mind and he ran down the stairs and he was going to kill him with his own hands.

Hatred is needed for this.

And I don't see the figure that is a leader that is saying, love

thy enemy.

You know, the first book burnings happened in Germany because the Weimar Republic, the first trans surgery happened in 1926 with a German in Germany.

And Weimar went exactly down the same roads.

Their libraries were full of homosexual and transsexual stuff.

When Hitler got in, the people were like, somebody's got to stop this.

Well,

You have that somebody.

And I am so afraid that the American people are going to get tired of this.

They're going to get tired of nobody paying the price.

And they're going to find somebody because there's lots of them that will say, I'll solve this.

Where the answer is, no, no, no, no, no.

We all have to be really cool.

And if the Constitution isn't being executed by the government, it will be in my house and in my neighborhood, and we will stay sane.

How do we do that without

visible leadership?

Yeah, my answer to that is probably not going to be

the best American answer.

But I think the advantage and the reason America is so great is because of its people.

I think we change this one community at a time.

I think the integration of people networking and coming together, which we certainly do at my company, Phil Craft Survival.

I mean,

every weekend that I talk, we have 200 people coming, showing up, and listening to me talk about preparedness.

But it's not about preparedness.

It's about people are looking for purpose.

And when they show up and

they handshake and they have something in common that's not divisive, ripping them apart.

It's not toxic.

It's this idea like, I don't care what political side of the aisle you're on, but you want to take care of your family.

I want to take care of my family.

That's so significant and so important.

So, where we restore this entire experiment is one piece of fabric in one community at a time.

And that's going to be difficult if we don't have people who are willing to get outside of their homes and get off their damn cell phone and get back to basics.

But I think the absence of the federal government, imagine the entire thing burns to the ground in Washington, D.C.

What's left?

People and their willingness to be self-reliant, to go, oh, well, the supply chain's not coming.

The Walmart's not going to be open.

The institution isn't going to provide security, which they're all doing bad anyway.

They've all shown their ass anyway.

So now it's like, well, why don't we just cut the biblical cord and go back to basics and do this ourselves?

one community and one neighborhood at a time.

And I think that's what we're going to get back to.

I think the cities would go in.

The cities cities would go in chaos, but

the rest of the nation that still lives in a community,

they will take care of each other.

I mean, I believe in the American people.

And, you know, Reagan used to say this, government's not the solution.

Government's the problem.

Get out of the way.

We all, I don't care if you're left or right.

We all sit down as long as you're not on the fringe ends.

The average Democrat, the average Republican, when they sit down at a coffee shop with somebody that even they disagree with, they're like, this is crazy.

And it's not that hard.

We all, I mean, we can see it.

This has nothing to do with reality.

It's crazy.

We'll fix it.

Yeah, it takes, it just takes a little bit of awareness.

And I think you're right.

I don't think people were designed to be stacked on top of each other in the name of efficiency.

I I think, you know, if you look at every major metropolitan area, all the bad stats are up, all the good stats are down.

And I don't think people are designed to be on top of each other.

Those will be the first epicenters to burn.

And I hate to put that out there, but it's like, if you want.

to have some resilience built into your plan, make sure you have a bug out that's beyond the city walls where you can get to grandma's house.

You can get outside of that epicenter because that's the first place to go because likely that's where the government institution has the most power.

You got to displace yourself from that power to be prepared and to be ready for it.

How much longer do you think you're going to be able to say these things or we could have this discussion?

That's a sincere question.

Every time I open my mouth, I'm like,

this is going to get suppressed.

This is going to be shut down.

And we fight it constantly.

If I didn't have guys who work for Facebook in the background of Meta helping me like, hey, I just got deleted again.

For what?

Speaking my mind.

I'm not a radical.

I'm actually a libertarian.

I'm like right in the middle.

I'm a little right center,

but it's like I can't even speak my mind with coming up with kind of reasonable and logical solutions without being deemed extreme, which it won't be long before the entire grid is unplugged.

And we'll see, leading up to the election, we will see.

We will see more of these institutions, more of these big tech companies tied to the government being told, like the Twitter files exposed, to shut these voices down.

And that might include just my voice, certainly, and maybe even yours.

Well, I hope that doesn't happen.

Mike, thank you so much.

Keep heart.

I know you, you know, you're not a weak guy.

You're not going to give up, but you should know there are millions of people that feel exactly the way you do.

And we count on people like you to keep the peace amongst ourselves, not preach hatred, but preach self-reliance.

That is the answer.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me.

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