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Speaker 3 Floyd, my man, how are you, sir? I'm great. Good to be with you.
Yeah, good to be with with you. So

Speaker 3 we are at a time now where

Speaker 3 I think this is the, you know, right Reagan said it, now is the time for choosing. This is the time where you have to decide what side you're on.

Speaker 3 And I think there are many strange bedfellows that can be made at this point

Speaker 3 because people are standing up from all walks of life.

Speaker 3 Do you agree with that?

Speaker 5 Oh, absolutely. That's why I actually

Speaker 5 my book is called Counterpunch, but the subtitle is An Unlikely Alliance of Americans Fighting Back for Faith and Freedom. And I think you are absolutely correct.
America is at an inflection point.

Speaker 5 And we've been under such a barrage of what I call false narratives for so long now.

Speaker 5 And I mean, you deal with all of these false narratives from climate change is caused by man to Trump was a Russian spy, Biden laptop was Russian propaganda.

Speaker 5 I mean, we get all these false narratives and false narratives, their purpose is to make people feel alone, isolated, and like they can't do anything.

Speaker 3 Correct.

Speaker 5 And so, you know,

Speaker 5 I travel the country and speak at conferences, and I kept hearing from everyone, what can I do? What can I do? What can I do?

Speaker 5 So I thought I would put together a book that explained to them that they have the most power

Speaker 5 right around them. It's a lesson that I learned a long time ago.
We underestimate the power that we have to influence the people that are right around us.

Speaker 5 You know, local action can have national impact. And so

Speaker 5 It's really a time for people to get engaged. It's time for people to start building community again.
You know, they put us on house arrest. They locked us all down.

Speaker 5 They tried to do everything they could to break the bonds of community. And we've got to go the extra step and start rebuilding those bonds of community.

Speaker 3 How do you do that when sometimes your family just can't even get together?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, the first thing that I suggest is people get to know their neighbors again.

Speaker 5 Most people live on a street. Most people live in an apartment building.
They're somewhere where there's neighbors nearby, but Americans don't know them anymore.

Speaker 5 And so you can do things as simple as have coffee with them.

Speaker 5 And then I talk about several examples of groups and organizations that have organically grown up as a result of somebody just stepping out.

Speaker 5 I talk about a guy named Basil Firminos, who's in North Phoenix. Basil was upset with mask mandates, and so he texted 50 of his friends to come to a coffee shop and meet him, and 250 people showed up.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 5 And so that group,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 2 was launched.

Speaker 5 And they still meet. They meet Mondays, every other Monday.
And they've been involved in school board races, local legislative races. They are making change right where they live.

Speaker 5 And that's how we fix the country. You know,

Speaker 5 nobody's going to ride in on their white horse into Washington, D.C. and fix everything.
That's not the solution to our problems.

Speaker 5 People have to occupy right where they're at.

Speaker 3 There's something also that I think is... for me at least, the most important thing.
Jason Whitlock yesterday said, stop calling me a conservative. I'm a Christian.
I'm not necessarily a conservative.

Speaker 3 And I heard a great priest talk about this recently on a YouTube video I watched, where he said, I'm tired of hearing about a liberal priest or a conservative priest.

Speaker 3 He said, there's neither of those. If you're for gay marriage, you're not a liberal priest.
You're not a priest. If you are for,

Speaker 3 you know, transgenderism and the mutilation of our children, you're not a liberal priest. And I'm not a conservative priest for standing against it.
You're just not a priest.

Speaker 3 And I think

Speaker 3 re-establishing ourselves with our faith, and I don't know how many people really have that deep a faith anymore,

Speaker 3 but re-establishing that, no, there are, I have two citizenships, one to the United States, and my

Speaker 3 first citizenship is to the kingdom of God. And I'm not going to break those laws in either of those citizenships.
I can't do it and be a good citizen.

Speaker 3 No, you are exactly right.

Speaker 5 This is a spiritual warfare. You know,

Speaker 5 we all know that Tucker Carlson just recently was released at Fox.

Speaker 5 Part of the speculation, because we don't know everything that happened, is that he was starting to talk in terms of spiritual warfare.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 he was calling out people as evil. He gave this speech to the Heritage Foundation on their 50th anniversary, where

Speaker 5 he said things that offend the elites. And so,

Speaker 5 you know, I think that that's a big part of why he might have been removed. So you're right.

Speaker 5 It is a spiritual battle. And, you know, I encourage people to get back into scripture.

Speaker 5 I think one of the ways that you can discern these false narratives is if you're putting good things into your mind and the Bible and the scripture is full of wisdom.

Speaker 5 So, you know, turn off social media, turn off Twitter, turn off Facebook, and spend some time in the Bible. And I think it will really change your perspective about things.

Speaker 3 I think it's really hard. You know, if people went and swore off,

Speaker 3 you know, movies, TV shows that are on Netflix, people don't realize how far we have drifted just in the last 10 years.

Speaker 3 You can't watch anything anymore that, you know,

Speaker 3 you would have thought was good and wholesome 15 years ago.

Speaker 3 They don't exist. And what's good and wholesome now is still filthy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, that's, that's one of the good things about having these streaming sites is we can watch old programs.

Speaker 5 I mean, I mean, my wife and I, we watch Murder, she wrote, which came out during the Reagan years.

Speaker 3 You're right.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 7 So, but, you know,

Speaker 5 Alinsky, who was the most powerful influence on the left and wrote Rules for Radicals, he was a great tactical strategist.

Speaker 5 And what he helped the left do was maximize their influence, but he did it by ridicule and ripping people apart. His strategies are incredibly divisive.

Speaker 5 And in fact, you know,

Speaker 5 he dedicated his book to Lucifer, the most divisive person in the spiritual realm.

Speaker 5 And I actually encourage people to do the opposite of Olinski, and that is start to love the people around you. Start to love your neighbors.
Start to re-engage with your neighbors.

Speaker 5 And then find people like you that you want to work with and then get involved in your school board race. Get involved in some of these key things because

Speaker 5 we still have the Bill of Rights. We still have freedom of the press.
And if we don't exercise these freedoms, we will lose them.

Speaker 3 I think that's one of the most important things that you have said is start to love your enemy.

Speaker 3 I gave a speech a couple of nights ago in Virginia, and

Speaker 3 I said, you know,

Speaker 3 hatred comes from darkness and ignorance. And there is a hatred that is spreading all over the world that is just evil.

Speaker 3 And if we really are disciples of Christ,

Speaker 3 We have to love our enemies and we have to start looking at some of these people. Some of these people know exactly what they're engaged in.
I think a lot of other people don't really know and

Speaker 3 they've just kind of eased their way into it and they don't realize that they're up to their neck in evil now. And the Lord wants all of his kids back, not just us, not one side or the other.

Speaker 3 He wants all of them to return to him.

Speaker 3 And you're never going to accomplish that with hatred. and anger and violence.
Never.

Speaker 5 No. I mean, his message is a message of love, of radical love.

Speaker 5 And, you know, when I was growing up, we had the Kiwanis Club, we had the Lions Club, we had the Rotary Club, we had all of these civic organizations that were

Speaker 5 building the local community. And, you know, those organizations now are all in really tough shape.
They're smaller after COVID. A lot of people didn't come back.

Speaker 5 A lot of them will never re-engage. We have to rebuild community and start with our neighborhoods and start with our neighbors.

Speaker 5 And we can take back the country literally town by town, city by city, county by county. There's over 3,000 counties in America that are, in essence, red counties.

Speaker 5 And a lot of times they aren't being run that way because people just aren't aren't active in their communities. And politics encourages and invites and attracts some of the worst elements.

Speaker 3 Floyd, thank you so much. The name of the book that he's just put out is Counter Punch.

Speaker 3 His name is Floyd Brown. You can get Counter Punch wherever you get your books.
And you can also find much of his work at westernjournal.com, westernjournal.com. Floyd, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 Great to be with you.

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Now,

Speaker 3 I want to talk to you about

Speaker 3 your elections. You may have elections going on.
Texas, I know, has elections going on right now through May 2nd. Election Day is Saturday, May 6th.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 these are the ones where they get you

Speaker 3 because they're very organized. And some of these elections, many of them school board elections, they can be won by three votes because seven people have voted, okay?

Speaker 3 Nobody goes out and votes.

Speaker 3 You need to call your friends and organize your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 Literally, if you put 10 people in a car, you could be the difference on a winning and losing election in an election like what's happening right now.

Speaker 3 I want to introduce you to Stephanie Allod. She is, now don't hold this against her, okay?

Speaker 3 Yes, she's a California native, but she got to Texas as soon as she could. Stephanie, welcome to the program.

Speaker 6 Thank you, Gwen. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So you moved from California, you moved to Frisco, which is a really nice part of North Texas, and it has great schools, and you got into the schools, And then you started paying attention to what was being said because of COVID.

Speaker 3 And what happened?

Speaker 6 Right. Well, the first few years were great.
We've been here 10 years. And then I started to notice some things, even before COVID, but then after COVID, definitely.

Speaker 6 And so I went to a school board meeting just about two years ago, actually, and I just did not like what I saw at all. I felt like the parents who had taken time to be there were very disrespected.

Speaker 6 In fact, the school board president at the time said, this is our meaning, meaning theirs and not ours. And it just didn't sit right with me.

Speaker 6 So to make a very long story short, I ended up running for school board last year, and I won. So I have been a school board member for about a year now.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 you found out, and we have the tape, we're going to play it here in a second, you found out that other members of the school board were meeting without you to try to figure out how to pretty much silence you.

Speaker 6 Yes, I did find that out recently.

Speaker 3 And, well, let's play. Do you want to set this audio up?

Speaker 6 Well, yeah, from what I understand, I can, sure. So what happened last fall was that myself and another trustee put an item on the agenda related to bathroom policy.

Speaker 6 And so that it took a while, and now I know why it took a while. Once you hear what you're about to play, it'll probably make more more sense.

Speaker 6 But it took a while and I didn't really think that much about the fact that it took a while, even though we have procedures as part of the board in terms of how long things should take before they get on an agenda when trustees request it.

Speaker 6 But anyways, apparently there was some constituents of our community who were angry about the policy. So our three board officers met with them to address their concerns.

Speaker 6 And they were concerned that we had just passed a policy saying, you know, boys use boys' restrooms, girls use girls' restrooms. They were upset about that.

Speaker 6 And so this audio was the three board officers kind of responding to those concerns.

Speaker 3 Now, listen to this. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 I am so tired of having, because every time it's on a board meeting, every time it's on an agenda, the entire tape crowd now can come and speak about how terrible they are. Then agenda schools are.

Speaker 3 Stop for a second.

Speaker 3 This This woman is saying, I am so sick and tired of it. Every time we talk about bathrooms, then the entire hate crowd comes in and we have to listen to how much they hate it.
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 I mean, Marvin and Stephanie are going to keep on. But every time, but they're going to ruin every meeting this year.

Speaker 2 And I have mechanisms in place that I can push and I can use our subcommittee structure. And they wanted to vote on this in July.

Speaker 2 It's November. That's how long I've been able to push this out.
And so, like, I have mechanisms by which I can do that. And I can also put it on any agenda.

Speaker 2 They want it on regular board meetings because it's a show. If they ask for anything transgender policy going forward, it will be on a special meeting in the middle of the day that no one goes to.

Speaker 2 And if you the only way we can combat what they're doing is to make sure our board stays in the majority of good guys. That's all we can do.
Because this. But if they change the state law,

Speaker 2 they will try, but they have never been successful in passing a bathroom policy at the state level.

Speaker 2 because we need to be in the audience listening to what their narrative is so that we have a defense mechanism

Speaker 3 that is incredible in case you need a recap some of the things discussed there was we're tired of the people coming to the meetings and wrecking the meetings and stephanie and and uh and her uh fellow board member they keep coming and they're gonna wreck all of these meetings uh so then the next one says well i I can keep it off the agenda.

Speaker 3 They wanted to do this in July. It's now November.
And I have mechanisms that will keep it off the agenda.

Speaker 3 And the other one says, and if they want to put it on the agenda, we can put it on in the day so nobody comes and we won't have to deal with all of that.

Speaker 3 What was the last thing in there? There was so much.

Speaker 3 We have to make sure that the good guys remain in control of the board. The question is, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?

Speaker 3 When you heard this,

Speaker 3 Stephanie,

Speaker 3 what did you think?

Speaker 5 I mean, I was shocked.

Speaker 6 I really was because, you know, I understand that there's a divide within the board and that, you know, the existing board members didn't want me on it. I certainly understand that.

Speaker 6 That was made very clear in last year's election.

Speaker 6 But, you know, I was surprised that anyone went to this level to do this and it was very concerning to me to call you know to characterize the parents as being a hate crowd these are parents who came and spent their time and spoke in most cases pretty eloquently about their concern about this bathroom practice that the district had had and quite honestly is still practicing.

Speaker 6 So, you know, they're allowed to come and say that. And that doesn't make them a hate crowd.
They were concerned.

Speaker 6 There were fathers coming, concerned about their daughters there were you know there was a mom who came who her son had been impacted by this whole issue of having a biological girl in the boys restroom and then you know when this mother complained to the school about that, they said, well, your son can use the nurse's restroom if he's uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 And she came and spoke. I didn't, that's not a hater.
That's just, you know, someone who disagrees.

Speaker 6 And it, you know, one of the things that concerns me the most about this whole environment that we live in, especially as it relates to school board elections, is if you don't agree with the establishment, then you're, you know, you're a hate crowd, zepper, right?

Speaker 6 And you're anti-public education. It's like, it's so ridiculous.
It's so intellectually dishonest. It's like we can disagree.

Speaker 6 And that's okay. But this name-calling and this rhetoric is just, it's escalated in Frisco this year because of the board election.
And it's really sad to see.

Speaker 3 So, first of all, are there people that you've talked to? You're getting some other people like you on that are running now for the board?

Speaker 6 There are two people that I am supporting in this election. I sort of characterize it as establishment candidates versus independent voices.
That's how I characterize it.

Speaker 6 And so there are, I've supported Reed Bond and Susan Kershaw. We have two seats up for election this year, and I have publicly endorsed and supported them.

Speaker 3 Are they running as

Speaker 3 Republicans or Democrats or Independents?

Speaker 6 They are.

Speaker 6 They're conservative. Okay.

Speaker 6 They are. And they've gotten all the endorsements from all the conservative groups and a lot of the Republican politicians.

Speaker 6 But because they're nonpartisan races, it doesn't have any kind of party affiliation on the ballot.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 3 And how do you, are there any?

Speaker 3 I mean, because they're so, they hide.

Speaker 3 They hide. We're open with our view.
Look, if you want bathrooms to be shared by, you know, both sexes or all 99, I'm not the candidate for you. They're not open and honest about it.

Speaker 3 So how do you know

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 you're standing with somebody that is good?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 6 you know, you just ask questions. And I think a lot of these these grassroots organizations,

Speaker 6 you know, do the vetting. And so that's what I tell people is go look at their questionnaires, go look at who they're endorsing, and you can see some of that.

Speaker 6 There's also forums that have been online.

Speaker 6 In fact, I was interested to find out that the Frisco Chamber of Commerce, when they did their forum, that's kind of the biggest forum that we have here, they asked,

Speaker 6 do you support getting out of the Texas Association of School Boards or not? Because another district recently did. And I thought, well, that's a question.

Speaker 3 That's a good one.

Speaker 6 People said yes or no, right and so you could see where people fell the other thing I'll say just to kind of get back to the video for a quick second is that one of our state representatives

Speaker 6 did request that the TEA the Texas Education Agency do an investigation into this to see if there was any kind of wrongdoing and so it is my understanding that that investigation has occurred.

Speaker 6 So there's been quite a bit of backlash to it, including from several of our elected officials who've gotten involved and are trying to do something to just stop this stuff.

Speaker 3 So, the Texas Association of School Boards,

Speaker 3 you know, we know about the school board associations nationally,

Speaker 3 and the Texas teachers' unions,

Speaker 3 they were instrumental in killing school choice here in Texas, which is incredible to me. We have so many spineless Republicans.

Speaker 3 What role do those guys play in school boards and

Speaker 3 races like this?

Speaker 6 So the Texas Association of School Boards,

Speaker 6 all trustees become a member once they get sworn in if your district is a member of

Speaker 6 that organization. And all districts in Texas except for one are, and that would be Carroll ISD in South Lake, who recently just voted to get out of the Texas Association of School Boards.

Speaker 6 So they are in a process of exiting. Good.

Speaker 6 So basically they provide training for trustees. They provide legal and others as well, employees, things like that.

Speaker 6 They also provide legal services for districts and insurance services and things like that.

Speaker 2 But they're on the wrong side.

Speaker 3 They're on the wrong side, are they not? Are they not also pushing?

Speaker 2 Go ahead.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I've seen them push quite a bit of

Speaker 6 progressive ideology.

Speaker 6 I was not a fan of that organization when I was running because I had heard about this concept called Team of Eight.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And that is basically where you have seven trustees and a superintendent and you're supposed to be a team.

Speaker 6 And I thought, well, that just seems counterintuitive to me on the face of it because I thought, well, aren't the trustees supposed to be there to, you know, oversee the district?

Speaker 6 And isn't the superintendent supposed to report to the board? And isn't the board supposed to be seven independent voices trying to make decisions for the community?

Speaker 6 So the whole team of eight concept, I ran a platform kind of against that. In fact, I think I've specifically said, I will not be team of eight.
I will be an independent voice.

Speaker 6 So that was kind of my thoughts before I got on.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, when I got on the board, I had the chance last fall to go to a convention that was put on by the Texas Association of School Boards.

Speaker 6 And they brought in ACLU attorneys to talk to the trustees about some of these controversial issues. And I was shocked.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's one thing to present both sides of an issue, but I didn't see any Heritage Foundation speakers or, you know, anything like that.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 Exactly right.

Speaker 6 I saw the ACLU. And I was quite honestly horrified because it was, you know, you have to allow pornographic books in libraries.

Speaker 6 Just make sure they're age appropriate, which meant to me, I guess high school is okay, but maybe some books aren't okay for elementary school. But they basically told us there's no book.

Speaker 6 you know, that you should take out of the library. And some of these books are so explicit.
And then they also, you know, said, you know, boys should be in girls' locker rooms.

Speaker 6 It's that's what they want. And I mean, I heard them say it and I couldn't get my mind around the fact that that's what they were doing.

Speaker 6 And so there's a lot of that stuff that goes on in the conventions, but even just a lot of the rhetoric from, you know, this organization, they basically said that when you, you know, when you become a trustee, you serve the district and not the voters.

Speaker 6 And I thought, well, that's, you know, what the heck is that? So I have not been a fan of this organization.

Speaker 3 Stephanie, thank you. You are running again already?

Speaker 3 No, I am not running. You're not running.
Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't think so, but

Speaker 6 I have a pre-year term, so I'll be in until 2025 at least.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 6 But I'm supporting Reed Bond and Susan Kershaw

Speaker 6 to be independent voices for Frisco ISD.

Speaker 3 I just wanted to talk to you. Thank you, Stephanie.
I just wanted to talk to you for the one reason that these are the elections that count. They will organize in these.

Speaker 3 The average American doesn't even go. And literally, they can be won by one vote, six votes.
You can change everything

Speaker 3 if you just

Speaker 3 grab five people, put them in your car, go and go and vote. Do your homework.
But if you have these elections going now locally, you've got to vote.

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Speaker 3 Rick Burgess is with us now. He just did an interview that I heard with William Shatner

Speaker 3 where

Speaker 3 William kept referring to Rick as Bubba the entire time.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 Rick was nice enough not to tell him, yeah, Bubba's not on the phone. This is Rick, dude.
This is Rick.

Speaker 3 But welcome to the program, Bubba.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 I go, I answer to Rick our Bubba.

Speaker 7 Bubba and I were, you know, we're in our 29th year in four months.

Speaker 7 So at this point, if someone calls me Bubba at the grocery store, I just answer. If somebody asks me how his wife's doing, I just pretend.
My wife is not happy about this.

Speaker 7 My wife literally says, Glenn, she says, if another person asks me if I'm married to Rick and Bubba, I'm going to scream.

Speaker 7 She's, I'm only married to one of them. Right.
So, look, we're interchangeable, and you don't interrupt William Shatner.

Speaker 2 You don't correct William Shatner.

Speaker 3 I had him on my CNN program, I don't know, how long was it ago, almost 20 years ago now. And he was, he said, you know, I watch you every day.
And I said, that sounds kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 And he said, no, I watch you every day. He said, because

Speaker 3 it's as if I'm a pyromaniac and I'm just watching everything burn down in front of me.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 7 have you noticed, and I said this when it was over, you know, Speedy, all the guys on the show, they're like, why didn't you correct him?

Speaker 7 Of course, Bubba loved the fact I didn't because he ended up having to miss the interview because you interview William Shatner when he can or when he tells you to.

Speaker 7 And so I said, well, don't worry, Bubba. There's no interviewing Shatner.
He said for eight minutes what he wanted to say and we were done.

Speaker 7 And what's sad, though, is Bubba is the one who loves Star Trek. I never watched it as a kid because it wasn't my thing.
I really thought Boston Legal and that character was

Speaker 7 the most hilarious.

Speaker 3 Oh, he is a phenomenal. I mean, he never, I mean, this is not what you're on for, so we're going to stop talking about William Shatner.
But he is an awesome actor.

Speaker 3 He really is in a very stilted sort of William Shatner sort of way. Anyway,

Speaker 3 it says right here on my little little piece of paper, the topic I'm supposed to address is why are the majority of church congregations made up of women? Where are the men?

Speaker 3 But I'm not going with that because you are

Speaker 3 the founder of the man church. So the answer, where are all the men? They're at Rick or Bubba's church.

Speaker 2 That is correct.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about this.

Speaker 7 Here's what we know. Okay, we know this.

Speaker 7 Do you ever get tired of people hitting you with stats about something and you begin to scream, well, are we going to do anything about it or just keep talking about this?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 So we have been, on every, this is what, every Father's Day, every time I've ever been in church, the guy gets up and appreciated and he says, well, we've done the survey. We've done the survey again.

Speaker 7 Let me tell you, men, something.

Speaker 7 The Barner research is in,

Speaker 7 and there is no influence that's anywhere near the influence that God gave a man. Now, let me be clear, that does not mean inequality.

Speaker 7 Men and women are of equal value and equal standing before God Almighty. He created them male and female.
However, there's a headship

Speaker 7 that he gave to man, and there's a maternal connection he gave to woman that you can't just interchange. And the headship does not mean inequality.

Speaker 7 As we know, you know, that Jesus himself said, I'm here to do the will of my Father. There was a headship in the Father, but the Father and the Son are equal.
So it's not inequality.

Speaker 7 So let's drop all that.

Speaker 7 But what we hear is that Barna and all these others have researched that inside a home, if the mother and father are there, if the man becomes a follower of Christ, there is the highest it ever was, there's a 93% chance the rest of the family will follow his spiritual lead.

Speaker 7 And then I think now down it's to 78 or 82. But it drops substantially down to if mom becomes a spiritual leader of the home, it gets like the 23% that the rest of the house will follow.

Speaker 7 If it's a child, it's in single digits, that that child could influence the rest of their family.

Speaker 7 So the question that we asked at the manchurch.com, or God finally convicted me, are you just going to keep talking about this? Or why don't you quit waiting for someone else to do something?

Speaker 7 And I said, well, what are we actually doing about it? And most Western churches, if you go in, you will find that they'll say this on Father's Day.

Speaker 7 But if you looked at the budget or an investment or any game plan to reach and disciple men so they can actually do the job as

Speaker 7 spiritually leading their home, you find that it's financed dead last

Speaker 7 or there's really not a game plan at all. So here was the question we have to ask.
Do we really believe it? And in this country right now, wherever you go, when you see chaos, you see one thing.

Speaker 7 Men have left their proper place. And now we're getting into this, you know, biological men now want to identify as women.
And have you noticed they're becoming dangerous.

Speaker 7 Anytime men leave their proper place under the authority of the one and only living God, they're dangerous. They always have been.
We always will be.

Speaker 7 And so you're not going to address this nation's spiritual problem with some kind of worldly solution. And so at the Manchurch.com and here at the Rick and Bubba show, we said, well,

Speaker 7 if that will have a huge impact, if men have the most influence, if we got men in their proper place, wouldn't we solve a lot of our problems? And so

Speaker 7 we're being intentional about reaching, but then discipling men from spiritual infancy to spiritual maturity because we can't just tell them they need to spiritually lead lead their family.

Speaker 7 You've got to equip us to do it.

Speaker 3 Equip me.

Speaker 3 Give me a place to start.

Speaker 7 Exactly. I mean, I told everybody, how would I feel if I went to church every Father's Day and they told me I was supposed to be the mechanic of my home?

Speaker 7 And they kept quoting scripture and I said, my goodness, the Bible clearly says that. And then all of a sudden they just left.

Speaker 7 And I looked around and I said, anybody going to show me how to be a mechanic? I don't know anything about cars. So when all we do is challenge men, but we don't equip them, we just frustrate them.

Speaker 7 I appreciate what Promise Keepers did. That was a great movement.
I appreciate men's conferences. I still speak at them.

Speaker 7 But if all we do is challenge and we don't equip, we're just frustrating men, and we must reach them and disciple them. So at themanchurch.com, we have a whole...

Speaker 7 strategy where you can just plug in and we have now our fourth 40-week curriculum that's coming out and it is the this curriculum is designed to get men into small groups and actually equip them disciple them teach them the word of god teach them to be able to handle the word of god teach them what God's standard is, teach them the truth, not just shout at them and tell them to do it, actually show them how to do it.

Speaker 7 So we still challenge, but we also equip. And so we have multiple resources available, and we go into the churches and we set up this strategy.

Speaker 7 And like I say, we've got, like we were talking about, a new resource that we just put out that kind of says what we need to say, right? We need to be transformed.

Speaker 7 And that's the latest resource that we're putting out right now. It's a 31-day devotional.
And listen to this. You You know how Jesus is always counter-culture, Glenn?

Speaker 7 The subtitle, picture how mad this makes everybody. Embracing the death of self and the power of God.
Go out to today's world and say you need to die to yourself.

Speaker 7 That's counterculture, but that's exactly what Jesus said.

Speaker 3 Well, and it is so important now. I mean,

Speaker 3 we are all, we're making ourselves into gods.

Speaker 3 You know, I can decide sexuality. No, you can't.
Gender is assigned by God.

Speaker 3 That's not within your power. Who do you think you are?

Speaker 2 Well, God.

Speaker 3 That's who I am.

Speaker 3 And it's a real problem.

Speaker 7 Self-worship is the number one, that's the largest going religion we have in our society right now. It's the worship of self.

Speaker 3 So themanchurch.com, themanchurch.com. Now, I've got a question

Speaker 3 from the other side.

Speaker 3 First question was, you know, why are the majority of church congregations made up of women? Where are the men? In your man church, where are all the women? Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 see see what we're gonna put you on the robe you go ahead and answer that one

Speaker 7 well that's an easy question they're not invited uh so well

Speaker 7 well no here's what it is let me tell you where we established the strategy honestly if you go into the church women and children are being taken care of yeah there is a game there is a game plan for them and it's a flawed strategy the western church i don't know when this happened what was the first seminary to do this and i use the word seminary loosely they they came a strategy that says you you reach the family through the children you do a great children's program and you reach the children, then those children reach mom and then mom reaches dad.

Speaker 6 Total hogwash.

Speaker 7 They don't understand men. Men are more than willing to drop their kids and their wives off at church and then go play golf.
Go hunting.

Speaker 7 Go back to the office.

Speaker 7 And what's happened, we've designed a lot of Western churches and they're designed to reach women and children. And men are on the outskirts.

Speaker 7 They may be pandering. They may be appeasing their wife by going.
But the children soon find out this is something that mama wants to do.

Speaker 7 Daddy's just giving in if he comes with us at all, but this really isn't something he's made a priority, so then the children don't buy in back to that influence again.

Speaker 7 So we found in scripture that three times a year, God was telling Moses in the Old Testament, three times a year, this is in Deuteronomy 16, 16 and Exodus 34, 23, three times a year bring me the men.

Speaker 7 So there was a precedent that God said, there is a time when I want to speak just to the men, and I'll tell them what to now now implement into their families and into society look at the the creation Adam is the one who's told about the tree Eve's not even created yet God tells Adam what they can and cannot do and expects him to then tell the wife that he gives her and Adam of course as we know fails at that job and when God shows up he doesn't ask Eve what happened he says Adam what's happened here So God has always expected men to hear instruction from him and then implement that into their homes, into the church, and into society.

Speaker 7 And we have failed miserably at equipping men to do that. So we're just stepping up and saying, we'll do it.

Speaker 3 I just have to tell you, somewhere in New York City, there is a maybe 24-year-old intern in a cubicle at Media Matters who is now just a heap of blubbering jell-o after the last couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 And I thank you for that, Rick. I do thank you for that.

Speaker 7 Listen, Glenn.

Speaker 2 Let me be clear, okay?

Speaker 7 Let me be clear. We don't do images images of camo.
I do all these things, but that doesn't make you a man. We don't do sports analogies.

Speaker 7 We don't do the uncomfortable, here comes a sports hero who came to Jesus and he gets up and tries to tell you sports stories and force them down on scripture.

Speaker 7 That's not what makes you a man. If you're good at sports, you can climb a mountain, you can lift a lot of weight, you want a bar fight, you got camo on, you know, you can, you can,

Speaker 7 that's not what makes a man. So we don't use any of those images.

Speaker 7 What makes you a man is whether you're a follower of Christ or not.

Speaker 7 And if we had told men that Jesus Christ actually said, deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow me, enter by a narrow gate, those who choose to follow me, the path will be hard, and most of you can't do it.

Speaker 7 See, the Marines said the few, the proud, the Marines. Jesus said the few, the humble, my disciples.

Speaker 7 And if we were telling men that it's actually the most masculine man thing you could ever do is actually decide to follow Jesus, that's one of our slogans. Be a man, follow Jesus.

Speaker 7 Disciple men, change everything.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but in the Marines, you get that snappy uniform that the chicks dig.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and unfortunately, following Jesus, you get a cross.

Speaker 3 That's right. That's right.
And it's becoming more and more

Speaker 3 less fun, if you will, but more and more important every day.

Speaker 7 Oh, look, I go to bed every night sleeping, not because my life's easy, but because my life is secure. It's under the authority of Christ.
And to me, there's nothing more important than that.

Speaker 7 True masculinity is Christ-centered masculinity. When God became a man, he did it perfectly.
That should be our example.

Speaker 3 Rick, thank you so much. Thanks for everything you guys do.
Thank you for your friendship and your broadcast on the Blaze. It's just, you guys are great.

Speaker 7 Well, it's kind of you to say that.

Speaker 7 And thank you so much for allowing the platform. You've been so good to our show, and all of us just love you and glad to be part of Blaze with you.

Speaker 7 And if anybody needs our help on this, you can go to themanchurch.com. Our brand new

Speaker 7 resource is a new 31-day devotional. I just wrote the commentary to it, and I kind of talk about my story in there a little bit.

Speaker 7 It's called Transformed, and that's what we need: Embracing the Death of Self and the Power of God. You can get it at themanchurch.com or on Amazon, but it's available now.

Speaker 7 So it's kind of you, Glenn, to offer us the platform.

Speaker 3 Thank you very much, Rick or Bubba, whichever one you are. I don't know the difference between the two.

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