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Well, hello, Stu.

How are you?

I'm very well, Glenn.

Everything's wonderful.

Everything is awesome.

Everything is good when you're part of the team.

You know?

You should write that down.

We should make a song out of that.

That's a fantastic idea.

Welcome to the program.

I was in Virginia Beach last night.

I got home at about 2 o'clock in in the morning, flew in, gave a speech, flew out.

I wish I could have stayed longer.

It was an amazing event

started by this woman, Donica Hudson, that is, she thought

we should do a covenant because didn't we do those in the old days?

And they did, yeah.

They did one in Virginia Beach last night.

And it was, it's amazing how

everybody thinks they're powerless.

Everybody thinks, I can't do that.

I don't know.

Here's just a woman, exactly what Billy Graham told me would happen.

Here's just a woman who did her thing.

She didn't really know what she was doing.

She didn't even know really what a covenant really was.

And she

started feeling this and researching it.

And she's like, I should do something.

And she put it together.

And it happened last night.

I think it's the beginning of something.

I think there's a big God movement that is coming.

And it was an honor to be there last night and hold their arms up,

play

Aaron to their Moses.

It was

really a positive thing.

I'm telling you,

if we just change our attitude and we start looking at things differently, and realize

we're all God's children, even the people who are trying to persecute us,

they're God's kids too.

And just like any parent, he wants all of us back.

We're not fighting with each other.

We're fighting evil right now.

And wow, evil is pretty darn strong.

I don't know if you've seen this, but

let me just give you a couple of things that

have happened.

Oregon has its right to Rest Act.

It's going to let homeless people treat tents on public sidewalks as a private residence.

And if you harass them at all or disturb them at all, you can get $1,000.

I mean, they can get $1,000.

They can sue you for $1,000 if they claim you are harassing them.

They're, again, on a public sidewalk.

But for some reason, Oregon is like, yeah, you can build your house there.

I mean, it's only a tent

what

yeah i talked to a reporter yesterday who went to portland and was covering all the the you know the the downfall of portland yeah and was talking to people who you know had tents in these tent cities that were given to them by the city it's crazy they're some of these organizations are just putting empty tents up to try to invite people to come.

Cities, other cities from around around the area are buying bus tickets for people.

Why wouldn't you?

Why wouldn't you?

Why wouldn't you?

They want everything.

This is where they say they want.

Yeah.

There you go.

I mean, might as well go there.

It won't be our problem anymore.

It's really sad.

Here's another thing.

I didn't know Mother's Day was controversial.

I mean, to me, it is because,

you know, why?

Woodrow Wilson.

He's the one who started it.

So he started Mother's Day.

So it's always controversial to me.

But other than,

unless you're in the I'm almost insane with my hatred for Woodrow Wilson category, which is like four people.

Yeah.

You don't really have a problem with Mother's Day, but corporate America does.

Apparently,

apparently, some companies are sending out a note saying, Mother's Day is a sensitive time and a challenging time or a difficult time.

And we invite you to opt out of our emails that are related to Mother's Day if it triggers you.

What?

What?

What?

By the way, thank you, Corporate America, for reminding me that my mom died when I was very young.

You've just triggered me.

Well, like, you'd be the perfect example of someone who could theoretically be triggered.

But, like, I think it's always been expected for you as a member of society to be able to get through that on your own.

Yeah, no, not anymore.

Not anymore.

Nobody can disturb you, whether you're in your tent in the middle of the sidewalk or, you know, you're reading emails.

Somebody has to remind you that your mother is now dead.

Okay?

You bring up Mother's Day and that's all I think of is my mother died when I was 15 and it still triggers me because I'm weak and pathetic.

Okay, other than that, let's see what else has gone on.

Oh, there's some really, really, really exciting news.

The energy secretary, Granholm,

she yesterday said, we are going to make the military all-electric by 2030.

Yeah, play this clip.

It's great.

Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?

I do, and I think we can get there as well.

And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home.

She is exactly right because remember

all the charging stations that were in Iraq?

They are literally everywhere, you know?

And

you know, if you take down the power grid or something in a country because you're fighting it, you just want to make sure that you have that

always renewable source of electricity to plug your Jeep in for four hours.

But then you can just keep on fighting.

This is a really, really good idea.

I'm excited to see how this works out for us.

You know, but it's different in Afghanistan.

They don't have the charging stations.

But I understand you can plug your Jeep right into the ass of a sheep and you get all of the power you need.

You do need the adapter, though.

You do?

Yeah, you can't just use any plug.

You gotta have the sheep adapter.

Yeah, okay.

Or it won't work.

All right.

And she also went on to say, electric vehicles are quiet.

What is that?

What do you so we can sneak up on people more?

What?

Wait.

What?

Wait, so

she's arguing, though, of course, that using gas, because it's dependent on an international market, makes the price volatile.

You are are going into a country that you are trying to take over

and you know what it's like when you're at war and you're expecting to plug your cars in meaning your tanks you're saying like our military fleet is that what she's talking about you're saying she they're talking now about our domestic military fleet right but they want to change the entire military into

electric vehicles.

That's, I mean, if that's true.

This is crazy.

I think you just pop the solar panels right on the back of

the tank.

I just say we just, you know, no war.

I just say we just

stop, oh, we just ban all war.

Decimate our military so we can't do anything with it.

Yes, thank you.

That's perfect.

Thank you, Stu.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Okay, let me give you a couple of other things here.

Just think it's good to know that Vermont school district is now no longer using the term male or female, which I think is good.

I think it's good.

They've come up with something better.

They cannot say male, female, boy, or girl.

Instead,

and I don't think this is going to make kids uncomfortable at all.

You are a person who produces sperm

or

a person that produces eggs.

Okay.

So I don't think that that's

demeaning.

I don't think that is,

I mean, I'm glad we're finally getting rid of male and female because they're so outdated.

You know, when I think of a male, I just think, hey, that sperm producer over there,

he's fantastic.

You know, whoa, can you imagine the eggs she's making right now?

She's practically a chicken.

It's fantastic.

It's fan-tastic.

It is an interesting thing.

You see over and over again,

they are so confused as to what their messaging is, right?

They're so...

We saw this with the Pete Budig clip we were talking about a little bit

before we came on the air, where he's been talking about female crash test dummies.

And, you know,

he's been mocked by the right, right?

You know, he looks silly.

You know, this is his big priority to have female crash test dummies.

You know, the world's on fire.

Right.

But let's get the female crash test dummies as a priority.

And that is a completely legitimate point to mock him on, right?

Of course, he's so meaningless, and everything he's doing is a giant zilch, right?

Like, that's kind of what you'd say.

But back off from this for a second.

Back off of just the mockery of Pete Buddhajudge.

Yeah, it's going to be hard.

It's going to be hard.

It's going to be very hard.

Come on,

Jesus.

You didn't just leave it at Crash Test Dummies.

You gave me the whole Pete Buddhajudge category.

Yes.

I can't mock him for at least a minute here.

Just a moment.

For just a moment.

Just a moment.

I want to take you on the scenic route here.

I believe every moment is an important moment, especially this moment and other moments in time.

Okay.

And we should recognize our moments in time.

In time.

That's true.

I actually do think there should be female crash test dummies.

And I know you might say, well, who cares?

Sure.

But there is a reason for it.

Really?

And it's interesting to think about what that reason would be.

Which is women are different than men.

So yes, when you're testing seat belts or safety features in cars, it is valuable to have

female crash test dummies because

it's important to note the actual biological sex of a person because they are different than the other biological sex.

And yes, there are two of them.

Yeah, the one that produces sperm and the one producer.

No, men men and women.

So yeah, you know what?

It does make some sense.

But why, Pete, do you think it makes sense to have female crash test dummies?

Why do you say you could just identify as the other sex?

Listen, I am not a scientist, okay?

So I can't tell you the difference between a female crash test dummy or a male crash test dummy.

It's true.

But I think we should spend a lot of time and money just thinking about those and being to

can you can you please describe a female crash no i can't how would he describe it i would how would he know how to produce a female crash test dummy he knows seemingly nothing about the the species at all so let me ask you if you are if men could become women

Then don't we already have female crash test dummies?

Right.

Just put men in there and just say they identify as women.

And then you'd know everything you'd need to know, right, Pete?

Amen, brother.

See, we've solved yet another of the world's problems today, and we did it in 20 minutes.

Okay.

Let me take a 60-second break because that was a lot of heavy lifting.

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So I started doing business with the 500

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They published this list.

And I started getting to know these guys.

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How do you interview?

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And real estate agents also that are cut from your same cloth.

Most of them are big fans of the show.

So you already have something in common.

Yeah, and I like it this way.

Me.

Make it all about me.

Me, me, me, me, me.

Oh, I want to tell my house.

Talk about me, okay?

Oh, sometimes my humility is so hard to take.

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I keep thinking about corporate media reminding me that my mother is dead.

Okay, I'm over it.

I don't know if you heard the news.

Elon Musk has suspended an account.

Censorship.

Censorship.

This is all he wants to do.

Okay.

What is he censoring this time?

Is it some political view he doesn't like?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Happy Alice Day.

Now, most human beings will go, happy what?

Alice Day?

Yeah, Alice Day.

The waitress from the 70s and 80s TV show.

Happy Alice Day to those who celebrate.

Okay.

I don't know anybody that has ever said anything about Alice and her day.

Okay.

He said, I figured, why not use today to unveil the Yap flag?

The Yap flag?

Yap flag.

Now, I thought that was some sort of an animal over in the Middle East, but it's not.

Those are yaks.

The yap flag is the youth-attracted person's pride flag.

Uh-oh.

And it was designed almost a year ago.

I wanted to stray from the oft-used horizontal bars motif, but only a little.

I wanted to retain some familiarity.

And so the Yap flag is now out, and I am proudly.

Flying it at other people's houses and then calling the cops on them.

It is fun.

Anyway, how dare you say that?

Like, pedophilia is a problem.

I don't know a single parent that doesn't say, man, I wish my kid could have some creepy neighbor come over and just sexualize them.

Right?

Am I right?

So he deleted that tweet and he says,

yeah.

Pedophilia, not tolerated on the platform.

So it wasn't the Yap guy that deleted the tweet.

It was Elon Musk coming in saying, hey, not huge fans of pedophiles.

He's like, I don't know who Alice is, but if Alice is for the Yap flag,

I don't think we want Alice to have an account here.

So she can keep her day and she can, you know, celebrate herself far away from children, preferably in prison.

It's a great place, especially this time of year for pedophiles.

Oh, they're going to love it.

They're going to love it.

So

it's interesting to me how much evil there is in America right now.

And

it gives me a lot of hope, honestly, because

we win.

It's really like evil and Satan thinks it's going to win.

And it's like, yeah,

I got a yap flag.

Okay.

And I didn't even come up with that.

That was Americans that came up with that one.

I didn't have to use any of my demon diabolical powers.

They came up with that.

It's fantastic.

It's like every crappy James Bond villain.

They always think they're going to win.

They've got the perfect plan.

And it's like they're doing this.

And you know that point where it's always like James Bond or just some kind of crappy villain where the guy who is the superhero and they're just like, but...

you know, I could kill you now, but I'm going to walk over here and do something else for a while.

We're entering that point.

They're so arrogant that we're entering a point to where they don't understand us.

They don't get it at all.

They don't realize that they're in the minority.

And when you wake this sleeping giant,

that's the moment where you're off.

We're going to kill you, but I'm going to kill you later.

So I, because I got a meeting or something I got to do, and I'm going to make sure that nobody's watching you so you can escape if you want.

But if you don't, I'm coming back to kill you.

That's, I think, what's coming.

Billy Graham told me once, he said, it's like the Lord is planning a surprise party.

And he's not going to use any of the famous people or anything else.

He's going to use average people.

And they just have to do what they hear in their heart to do.

Just stand there with your peace, and you're going to feel really stupid about your peace.

And you're like, this is not going to change anything.

You just stand there.

He said, and then the Lord will walk in, turn on the lights.

Satan will be walking through the door.

And

the Lord will just say, Hey,

surprise.

That's what's coming.

That's what's coming.

But in the meantime, until that time, make sure you get your yap flag, Alice.

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Right?

Just said to Stu,

hey, hey, Stu, what was the name of that big report that we were waiting to come out?

Right.

And then it never came out.

And I believe we're still waiting.

I mean, it comes out in dribs and dreps, but we're still waiting for the final report.

I can't even remember the name of that report now.

Okay.

And everybody was like, wait until the Higgins report is finished.

Do you, did anybody on the staff even remember?

Do you remember, Sarah?

What was it?

Durham.

The Durham Report.

The Durham Report.

Right.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

The Durham Report.

I think I could remember more of Bull Durham than the Durham Report and what it was supposed to show.

It's amazing how these things get buried.

And there's another.

This is such a huge story.

This is so much bigger than Watergate.

What's happening now with the

ex-CIA spy

that

wanted to stop Donald Trump from being president and so crafted the letter

to say that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

And then as political operatives, they got everybody to sign it.

Devin Nunes is with us now.

He joins us, a former U.S.

Congressman, he was on the front line of all of this stuff.

Now he's at Truth Social.

He's the CEO.

Devin, how are you?

Hey, Glenn, it's great to be with you this morning.

Oh, my gosh.

How glad are you to be out of this cesspool?

Well, it's kind of like out of the frying pan and into the fryer for me.

You know,

over at Truth Social, it's just daily attacks.

Yeah.

Like bot attacks from foreign countries, then it's being attacked by the fake news or by the Biden administration or, you know, you name it.

So when you were there,

you were really leading a lot of these things and really doing hard work to uncover.

And of course, you were a conspiracy theorist and everything else.

And everything that you talked about, we've talked about

has turned out to be true and worse.

This

Michael Morrell thing.

What do you make of it?

Yeah, I remember, Glenn, when I was chairman of the House Intelligence Committee doing a long interview with you on your show.

I think we went, I don't know what it was for, but it went like almost 30 minutes or 45 minutes.

And

I remember you saying, this really can't be true, is it?

You know, we were going back and forth talking about it.

And the only thing that I would correct you on is that the whole idea of the Durham report was a fake narrative that was built by the deep state to say that, oh, Durham's just going to do a report.

Durham's just going to do a report.

Durham's just going to do a report.

And nobody really listened to me at the time, even though I was the guy that uncovered all this.

I said, I don't give a damn about a report.

I only want to see people go to jail.

Amen.

We made 14 criminal referrals,

of which you've seen Durham's been able to bring three indictments.

One pled guilty, two walked, which is a whole other problem with our two-tier justice system, because if it was Glenn Beck

or Devin Nunes being tried in Washington, D.C.,

we would have been, you know, the trial would have lasted, the jury would have met for about 12 seconds, and then we would have got the maximum penalty by the judge.

So it's really, this has been really damaging to our country that this, it was kind of the start of it, you know, when they were willing to

go one step beyond just having political operatives do stupid political operative things that everybody knows, knows, oh, it's an October surprise, ha ha,

versus, oh, this is an October surprise, and oh, wow, the Department of Justice is involved in this.

Much, much different when they're willing to weaponize the intelligence and justice system in this country.

So, what do you think it means that they're willing to openly admit this?

I mean,

explain to me how I'm wrong.

This is the intelligence community

with the Biden campaign through Anthony Blinken to

obstruct the truth to help a candidate.

That is the worst of the worst.

I mean,

that's worse than Watergate by far.

Yeah,

it's not even close.

But let's take this deep state actor.

So Morell was the guy that got a ⁇ that we questioned after Benghazi because remember, he was involved in writing the talking points.

I had forgot about this.

Oh my gosh.

He wrote the talking points and he was the deputy CIA director at the time.

Right.

And it was and it was kind of like explained by the media, the narrative at the time was, well, this is a career guy.

He just made a mistake.

And then, you know, I remember we questioned him and he says, oh, you know, yeah, I wouldn't have done that that way, blah, whatever.

Well, then, totally missed it.

And look, I'm the one who did the Russia hoax because there was so much fake news involved in all this.

So we kind of just got glossed over.

But Morell also participated early on in the Russia hoax.

So here you had a guy, the CIA knew it was fake, knew it was phony, knew it was ginned up by the Clinton campaign.

But Morell pins an op-ed in the New York Times that

was essentially alluding that Trump had these Russia problems, you know, be on the lookout for it.

Now, look, nobody paid attention to any of that stuff in 2016.

It died quickly because it was a joke.

Nobody believed it.

They tried to spin up this Russia stuff on Trump in 2016,

and it just died.

And then they went on to the Billy Bush tapes.

Remember that?

And then, remember how this all, then how this got resurrected?

It was because after the election, when Trump stuns everybody and wins in 2016, they said, oh, what the hell are we going to do now?

And Comey and Obama and all of them said, well, we're going to go all in.

We're going to to put the justice system, the Justice Department, the FBI.

We're going after Trump.

And they did that a couple weeks after Trump won in 2016.

And

we have records of that.

We know who was in that meeting.

I mean,

it's amazing.

And Susan Wright leaves that meeting and she's like, we did nothing wrong in this meeting.

It was like, what are you for?

Because, Glenn, don't you normally, like when I get off your radio show, you just pin down, talk to Devin Nunes.

We did nothing wrong.

Exactly right.

We didn't break the law or do anything wrong that would be suspicious even.

So here he is,

a CIA chief.

He is colluding with

Anthony Blinken,

who is

at the time high up in the Biden campaign.

Morel says, I didn't even think of of this until I talked to Blinken.

So

you have the campaign reaching out to the CIA, and he said, I got the idea from Blinken, and I did it, and I wouldn't have done it without Blinken.

Yeah,

so what happens in, as best as I can describe it, and this is where Morell's the least of the problems here, okay?

So Morell is outside.

He's on the outside now.

I I assume he still holds a security clearance.

Many of those 51 signers still hold a security clearance.

They're in high-level positions for likely government contractors.

They sit on boards of these big defense companies that provide

intelligence and products to our military industrial complex.

So what happens here is Morel

is the guy that they, you know, he's the go-to guy, right?

He's the fix-it guy because he did it in Benghazi.

he did it in russia oh this is definitely the guy we can do it now look he's trying to move up in the soviet style apparatchic system he just wants to be ci director so badly that's more story so he was always willing to do anything that the left wanted him wanted them to do so when blinken calls him who's at the biden penn center no less at the time wow and in 2020 so and says hey we got this coming out we need some help here

can you help us?

Oh, oh, yeah, absolutely.

Let's get a letter.

Okay, where's the letter?

Okay, here.

And then they go get 51 of probably the most respected names on the left.

Everybody knows them as left guys, left-wing guys, but relatively well-respected, former CI directors, et cetera, four-star generals, that sort of thing.

And Morell goes on

the request of Blinken to do this.

Now, and they do it.

And of course, it's all a lie.

It's all a scam.

They know it's a lie.

Now, the biggest problem here glenn that we have

blinken gets rewarded for this and he is now people don't realize the secretary of state position is often seen

and not only in the united states of america and in washington but around the world as the number three position in the entire government of the united states oh yeah big time

Big time.

You know, it's a position not, you know, it's not always in the news.

It's not something new domestically people see a lot, but

that is our voice.

It's the head of our Foreign Service.

So, and by the way, the head of the Afghanistan debacle, too, the State Department was put in charge of that, of the evacuation over the Pentagon.

It was crazy.

Well,

if you put political actors, leftists, in that couldn't find their way out of a paper bag, you get disasters.

And we've seen it over and over again.

And don't forget, okay, yeah, Afghanistan's bad enough.

What about Ukraine?

That's turning into a disaster.

What about nobody's paying attention to Sudan?

Right?

I was, I was.

No, not that they aren't paying attention.

They are just letting those Americans rot.

Just, you know what?

You're going to have to get out on your own.

We told you you shouldn't go there.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, and one of them

is a teacher.

as I understand it that was there working for the government.

So a lot of times when we have foreigners overseas, we have a school system for the children of those people that are working on behalf of the United States government.

As I understand it, one of them is a teacher.

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Well, that poor lady is only there because she was part of the servicing the Americans that were in Sudan.

Anyway, I mean, it's just that this guy's overseeing one debacle after another.

And none of these, what I've said over and over again, anyone who signed that letter, all 51 of them, not only should they never hold another government job in their lifetime, they shouldn't have a security clearance.

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I asked a congressman, I said, why, why aren't you going after these guys who have lied under oath?

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Is that really the way this works?

And there's no way around that?

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I don't know specifically what

you're referring to, but what they really have to do is not only make referrals, but they have to continue to dig and dig.

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you see, like we said, like we talked about Durham.

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Correct.

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You have to pin these people down.

Yeah.

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Imagine how if, you know, the old saying is, one generation, what they tolerate, the next one embraces.

And look at what we're tolerating.

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when we fully embrace this corruption, we absolutely are Venezuela.

It's nasty.

Devin, thank you so much.

Absolutely, Glenn.

It's good to talk to you, and I'd love to have you on more often.

You've got a great perspective on things.

Thank you so much.

Hey, Glenn, great to be with you.

Thank you.

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Let me take you back in the time tunnel.

Tunnel, tunnel, tunnel, tunnel, tunnel.

You've got to go back 10 years.

The name Jack Phillips

sounds familiar?

How about this?

He ran the masterpiece cake shop in Colorado, remember?

And he had somebody walk into his store, say he wanted a gay wedding cake, and he said, you know, I'll make anything for you, but my religion,

my religious beliefs, I can't do that for you.

But I'll sell you any other cake.

And then he was sued for it.

It went all the way to the Supreme Court.

He was found,

you know, I don't know, not bigoted.

I don't know.

They said, he doesn't have to make your stupid cake, okay?

He has a right as an artist to not be forced to make a cake.

So we all went, yay, it's over.

Well, then some other guy, an activist, came in and said, I want a Satan cake.

And he's like, I can't make a Satan cake.

I swear it, Jack must spend his whole day just turning down cakes.

I can't make a Satan cake.

I'm sorry.

And so, what happened?

They tried to sue him.

This one was dismissed quickly.

Now,

somebody's come in with a trans cake and they're suing him again.

Incredible.

10

years of his life have been stolen from him.

We're going to talk to Jack Phillips and his attorney in 60 seconds.

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Is Jack with us yet?

Okay.

Jack Phillips is with us along with Matt Sharp.

He is from the ADF Alliance Defending Freedom.

He's senior counsel, been on the program before.

Jack, welcome back to the program.

I wish we didn't have to do this all over again.

Thank you, Mr.

Beck.

It's a pleasure to be here today.

Yeah.

Can I ask you,

I think this is

the worst theft I've ever seen in my life.

These people have stolen 10

years of your life.

How are you dealing with that, Jack?

Well, we're grateful to have AD up there beside us through this whole thing.

But I just want to make it clear that the people that are suing me, I welcome in my shop.

I welcome everybody who comes into my shop at Masterpiece Cake Shop.

But I just can't express every message that people ask us to create with our custom cakes.

And that was the case over 10 years ago now when two men came in and asked me to create a cake to celebrate their wedding.

and it was a view of wedding that goes against my beliefs what weddings is weddings are and so I told them you know I'll sell you other cakes other custom cakes sell you anything in my shop cookies brownies but I just can't create a cake for a same-sex wedding that goes against my faith and they they stormed out of my shop swearing at me flipped me off went to the state filed a complaint the state sued me and that case ended up at the U.S.

Supreme Court, like you know, and we won 7-2.

The day that the court granted our case though an attorney here in Colorado called us up and asked us to create a cake that was blue on the outside and pink on the inside and then we were informed that those colors were symbolic of changing gender from changing from a man to a woman.

So we told this attorney that we would be glad to serve other custom cakes, create other custom cakes, serve them in any way that we would serve anybody else.

But the cake expressed a message that I didn't want to create.

And so that person sued us through the state.

That went forward and then I was dismissed.

And now we're in the same lawsuit with the same person in a civil case.

And we lost the first two rounds.

And so ADF has asked the state Supreme Court to hear our case.

And so we're waiting for the results of that.

Jack, I got to go back to my first question.

Sure.

How are you doing this?

10

years.

Do you, I mean, I know you're a believer.

I know you're doing things because you really, truly believe that this is wrong.

And I can't thank you enough as a citizen for doing this.

But do you ever get to a point where you're like, I can't take it?

No,

this is the right thing to do.

It's a big fight, and it is for every American because free speech is for everyone.

And we're hoping that this court will overturn it.

But again, like I said, with ADF backing this up and knowing that we have the best legal team that you could possibly have in a situation like this is

reassuring.

So let me go to Matt.

Matt, tell me what this case

is looking at, why it went civil, and why you're having a hard time or he had a hard time before you guys came on board.

Yeah, well, as you mentioned earlier, you know, the Supreme Court ruled for Jack, but focused on the hostility that Colorado was showing to Jack, where it was comparing his beliefs about marriage to being no different than those of Nazis and those responsible for the Holocaust.

And so the Supreme Court didn't get to that core question of can Colorado force artists like Jack to speak a message to support a cause or idea that violates their belief.

And that's what we're fighting for now, is we want that definitive ruling to say the Constitution clearly protects the speech of every American and includes

Supreme Court decision said?

No, they didn't go all the way there.

They just focused on that hostility and sort of

save the bigger question for another day.

And so we're litigating it now on Jack.

We've got another case, Lori Smith of 303 Creative, that's at the U.S.

Supreme Court challenging the same Colorado law.

So we're hopeful that we are going to get that ruling that's going to put an end once and for all to these

vexatious challenges against Jack and allow him to go back to doing what he loves to do.

I go back to, you know,

I think 10 years have been stolen.

Stolen?

Stole?

That's a word.

That's right.

That's the right word, right?

Yes.

It's also a bread, so we should ask Jack about it.

But

I just think

there's at some point should be a penalty for people who are intentionally trying to destroy someone's life just to make a point.

Yeah, and especially with this case.

I mean, the person doing this, this activist attorney admitted that if this case was thrown out, come back in the next day and ask for another cake that they know Jack could not do because of his beliefs.

And we're bringing that point out.

We're raising awareness that this was a setup, that this was an effort to try and punish and harass Jack because of his beliefs, and we're not going to stand for it.

Yeah,

can you counter-sue at all on this?

I mean, this is harassment.

This is harassment.

Yeah, well, that's why we're hopeful that the Colorado Supreme Court is going to shut this down once and for all and make sure that these types of claims can't be brought anymore against Jack or others like him.

And how is the, what's the makeup of the Colorado Supreme Court?

Well, you know,

you know, we've been through this process before the first time around, and they didn't show willingness to stand for the Constitution and uphold Jack's free speech rights.

But we're hopeful that they'll see what this delegation is doing to him and how this is being, like you said, the harassment and these laws are being misused to punish Jack and try and coerce him because of his beliefs.

And what happens if the Colorado courts turn you away and say, nope, we side with the,

what is it, the plaintiff.

We side with the guys who want the cake, and the Supreme Court just doesn't take his case.

What happens to Jack then?

You know, it could be ruinous for him.

It could have severe impacts, but this is where we're optimistic, that if not the Colorado Supreme Court, then we are going to ask the U.S.

Supreme Court.

And we're hopeful that whether it's in Jack's case or Lori Smith's case, as I mentioned, that's pending there, that we are going to get the Supreme Court to reaffirm that you can't force Americans to speak messages to support causes that they disagree with.

It's amazing.

Matt, thank you for being there.

ADF, you guys do so much.

And if it wasn't for you, I mean, people are having a hard time finding attorneys now because the attorney firm will be hassled.

And so that's just not worth worth the headache to stand up and defend the Bill of Rights.

So, thank you for everything you guys do.

I will say to Jack, you know, I find it very difficult to come to a conclusion on this case without tasting these baked goods for myself.

I don't know.

I mean, I think it would only be fair if we got some baked goods from time to time from Jack, but no.

He's like, You will purchase the baked goods.

We will not send them to you.

More important things than that, I suppose.

Jack, sincerely thank you for standing.

God puts you in the right place at the right time.

I'm kidding.

Yeah, thanks for allowing us to share our story and hopefully encourage other people to do what's right.

Because, like I said earlier, free speech is for everyone.

These cases are not just about me and my cake shop.

They're about every American.

God bless you.

We're hopeful for a good result.

Thank you very much, Jack.

Jack Phillips, Masterpiece Cake Shop, 10 years

of dealing with this.

This poor guy has just been beaten down.

I mean, at some point,

I mean, just as a human, you would have to say, I mean,

I just

want

to make cakes.

How much time

has

been

again, holiday stolen from him?

How much time has been taken from this man?

And there's got to be times when you're just like, I

mean, I know he is, he is sincere in his faith.

Oh, that's incredibly clear.

Yeah.

And that's why, you know, God put him in the right place.

They're picking on the wrong guy because this guy, he is clear.

How many of us have that kind of faith?

It's so hard because there's such a pragmatic cost to it for him.

You know, his life is being destroyed.

And you know, you can tell that he really cares about this.

But, you know, after six months, it would be really hard to keep going.

Just, I don't know, just make the cake.

You know, I mean, that has to.

I know if I'm running this cake shop, first of all, it's probably very much losing money because I'm eating all the goods.

But secondarily, I think it would be,

I would, that would definitely cross my mind.

If I felt the way he did, I would be like, all right, you know, this is ridiculous.

I'm going to ruin my entire life over this.

I would move to a friendlier state, right?

You'd move to a friendlier state.

You'd, you'd, you'd close down your shop.

You'd, there'd be a hundred things that would cross your mind.

And every time we've talked to him, I've never really had the sense that that has been the case with him.

He's always been just like, I'm just going to hold.

Because, I mean, when you have that kind of faith, you know that

you should expect persecution.

You're standing against evil.

Yeah.

And of course, you're going to be a target.

And, you know, hopefully Jack in a way looks at it as a badge of honor.

I mean, that guy's earning his place in the history books and he's earning his place in the afterworld.

I mean, he still believes in that sky god and the afterworld.

Boy, is he going to be surprised when he wakes up in the coffin?

Anyway,

that's how it works at all.

Oh, really?

Anyway,

Jack Phillips.

He was clear.

He was not sending us baked goods, though, I I will say.

That didn't work.

Yeah, that was very clear.

He was freezing us out.

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you know, asking you to do your most famous song.

But I mean, if you're sick of doing it, you don't have to.

I'm trying to be nice to him.

Sure.

And

he said, what song are you talking about?

And I said you know i left my heart in san francisco and he said why wouldn't i like and he just like snapped on me he got angry he got really angry why wouldn't i like that song and i'm like i don't i don't know i was just trying to be nice i was just trying to give you an out on that uh and i got that vibe from jack a little bit when you said i want free baked goods I feel like he might now, if I went in there to purchase him, he might kick me out of the cash.

He might say, I'm in another suit here.

I might be suing him.

I won't make anything for you.

Get out.

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I'm going to introduce you to Connor Fitzpatrick

He is representing the Michigan middle school students that have gotten together

and they filed a lawsuit because the school forced them to take off their Let's Go Brandon sweatshirts.

Now, if the school has a policy that's consistent, then I would disagree with them, but we'll find out.

I don't think they're being, I highly doubt they're being consistent.

And so they're going to court.

Because, you know,

would you have, I mean, the people who were so anti-Trump, so anti-Trump,

would that school kick the kids out if they had an anti-Trump shirt?

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I don't know why we still are sending our kids to school.

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They should learn in some fashion.

No.

No, you're getting

knowledge is bad.

No, but I mean, we know that this is, they are grooming our children to be activists.

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lose gender,

you know, homosexuality, pedophilia.

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And yet we all still kind of go, yeah, no, that's really, that's really bad.

Hey, don't miss your bus.

Although I think that's changing quite a bit.

And I think it's since COVID, we've seen a massive shift on that issue.

It has, but it shows you how trapped people are in the federal system.

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I mean, we are sending our kids

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It's really crazy.

Yeah.

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I mean, I'm not doing that, and I'm very happy with that choice.

Everyone should be able to make it.

I know.

It shouldn't be.

Not everybody is in that.

Not everyone can.

And it's unfortunate.

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They want to raise, they're right now in Texas, you have this possibility of challenging your taxes.

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I don't even send my kids to these schools, and I have to pay taxes to send my kids to schools they don't attend, and then I have to pay again another to the private school.

And it's like, well, this is completely insane for most people, and it shouldn't be that way.

You should be able to choose where to send your kids to school, but this is so entrenched, and it's destroying us.

Luckily, a lot of people have been able to change that in the last couple of years, but we should keep pushing in this direction.

Amen.

Amen.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program up in Michigan.

I read a story yesterday that middle school students there have filed a suit after the school forces them to take off their Let's Go Brandon sweatshirts.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression attorney, known as FHIR, and you can find them at thefire.org.

Connor Fitzpatrick is joining us with us because these guys are minors protecting their anonymity.

They're not going to be on with us, but we're going to talk to Patrick about this case.

He's fighting it up in Michigan.

Hello, Patrick.

How are you?

Or Connor, how are you?

Patrick.

Good morning.

Great to be here.

Yeah, thanks.

So, Connor,

is this

inconsistent with their dress code?

You know,

how can they file suit if there is a dress code that says you can't wear things that cause attention being brought to you or disruptive?

So the dress code provision that the school is relying on to ban these Let's Go Brandon hoodies says that you're not allowed to wear vulgar or profane clothing.

That's what the school's relying on.

But of course, these hoodies aren't vulgar.

They aren't profane.

No.

Now, they're a cultural reference to a different chant, which admittedly you can't say at school.

You can't drop the F-bomb in class.

We all agree with that.

But these students aren't doing that.

They are intentionally using a sanitized, non-vulgar, non-profane slogan in order to get their point across.

And that's squarely protected by the First Amendment.

So what is the school saying?

When you filed suit with them, what did the school say?

We have not heard anything from the school or the school district since we filed suit other than that they acknowledged my email when I emailed the lawsuit to them.

And did the parents reach out?

How did this come to be a suit?

How many kids are involved?

And

did the parents reach out to the school first and try to get answers or

some open minds on this?

So we have two students who are plaintiffs in our case, both of whom were ordered by the school district to remove Let's Go Brandon sweatshirts.

And the ironic thing about all of this is this shouldn't have required a lawsuit.

Last year, through attorneys, the parents wrote to the school district, set out the pertinent Supreme Court law and the First Amendment law, and said, Hey, you have to allow these hoodies.

They're protected by the First Amendment.

Unfortunately, the school doubled down.

They dug their heels in, and that's why we're in federal court.

Jeez.

And

your thoughts on the case and ramifications if you win or lose?

My thoughts on the case are, admittedly, I'm a little bit biased, but I think these hoodies are squarely protected by the First Amendment.

You know, a little more than 50 years ago, the Supreme Court decided the major student speech case.

It's called Tinker v.

Des Moines.

And their middle school students, like these kids, went to school and they wore black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.

And the Supreme Court held that as long as the students aren't being disruptive, as long as they aren't disrupting lessons, kids have a First Amendment right to peacefully express their political views in school.

And what schools can't do and what the school's doing here is playing favorites, allowing some students to express their political views, their social views, but stopping other students from expressing theirs.

And it's really amazing to me that, you know, once you get into college, the entire system is trying to teach you to stand up and protest and disrupt.

And it's now in our middle schools and elementary schools as well.

But here the schools are saying, no, no, no, you can't disrupt.

You can't do that.

When everything on the left is all about chaos and disruption.

So under the Supreme Court's precedent, as long as students aren't being disruptive, you're not allowed to stand up and start chanting protests in class.

We all agree with that.

And that's the ironic thing about this case, Glenn, is that the school has never contended that these kids were being disruptive.

They were going about their day, doing their schoolwork, going from class to class, and they just happened to be wearing a Let's Go Brandon hoodie.

But the school singled them out and ordered them to remove their sweatshirts based on the political message that they wished to express.

And that's where the Constitution gets involved.

Talking to Connor Fitzpatrick, Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression.

You can find him at thefire.org.

Connor, tell me if

this,

if you lose this case, what are the ramifications?

And if you win this case, does it go further than just this school?

So

we certainly hope we don't lose.

If we do, I think there's a good chance we'll take it to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals and hire if we need to.

But the overall point of this case and the overall importance of the First Amendment in public schools is that we should be encouraging young people, not discouraging them, we should be encouraging them to engage in political expression, to talk about the issues with their friends.

And if it causes a debate or an argument, so much for the better.

You know, Glenn, we count on our schools to prepare our kids for real life.

That's what we always say.

Schools should prepare kids for real life.

Well, in real life, people are going to disagree with them.

They're going to have neighbors and coworkers and even elected officials who don't think or talk or even pray the same way they do.

So the earlier they start getting exposed to views that they disagree with and start having those discussions, that's what's going to prepare them for a productive life as an American citizen.

And I have to tell you, there is no education without an honest search of all sides and without friction, you know, opposition in all things.

That's biblical.

There is opposition in all things, and it's necessary.

And you will never sharpen a knife without the opposition of the stone.

You will never educate your children unless they are occasionally offended.

I mean, I think the best teachers are the ones that will take

one side and really argue and push the kids up against the wall, and then halfway through, switch sides and argue hard the other way.

That's the only way you are ever challenged to think for yourself.

That's absolutely right, Glenn.

Our schools are not assembly lines of conformity.

We leave that to China and we leave that to Russia.

We encourage our American students to think critically about their own views, to consider the possibility that they might be wrong.

Yeah.

Because that's how you put your views to the test.

Yeah.

Thank you so much for everything you guys are doing.

Really appreciate it.

Thanks, Connor.

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

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We're glad you're here.

I don't know if you saw the Tucker Carlson

little mini monologue that he put online yesterday.

Let's play this here.

Good evening.

It's Tucker Carlson.

One of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country, kind and decent people, people who really care about what's true, and a bunch of hilarious people also, a lot of those.

It's got to be the majority of the population, even now.

So that's heartening.

The other thing you notice when you take a little time off is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are.

They're completely irrelevant.

They mean nothing.

In five years, we won't even remember that we had them.

Trust me, as someone who's participated.

And yet at the same time, and this is the amazing thing, the undeniably big topics, the ones that will define our future, get virtually no discussion at all.

War, civil liberties, emerging science, demographic change, corporate power, natural resources.

When was the last time you heard a legitimate debate about any of those issues?

It's been a long time.

Debates like that are not permitted in American media.

Both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them, and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.

Suddenly, the United States looks very much like a one-party state.

That's a depressing realization, but it's not permanent.

Our current orthodoxies won't last.

They're brain dead.

Nobody actually believes them.

Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.

This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue, and so it won't.

The people in charge know this.

That's why they're hysterical and aggressive.

They're afraid.

They've given up persuasion.

They're resorting to force.

But it won't work.

When honest people say what's true calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful.

At the same time, the liars who've been trying to silence them shrink and they become weaker.

That's the iron law of the universe.

True things prevail.

Where can you still find Americans saying true things?

There aren't many places left, but there are some, and that's enough.

As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.

That is a great,

hey, I'm not dead.

I haven't disappeared, and nobody's shutting me up

message from Tucker Carlson.

It would be more effective if he wasn't such a Nazi, right?

Right.

Right?

That's the only hole in the message.

He doesn't sound like a Nazi.

You know, he likes freeways.

You know who invented the freeway?

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

It's all coming together now, Glenn.

It's all coming together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The tone of that, I think, is really great.

You know, I mean, I know it is.

You know, you see that and you see, that's the happy warrior type of thing, right?

Where like he's not backing down.

He's not leaving his foundations or his principles, but he's also smiling.

Yeah.

You know, and enjoying life a little bit.

Right.

Well, of course, you know, you're paying for that.

$100 million and they say, get out and you're not going to work for it.

Why can't I find that job?

I need the job.

I want that job.

Right.

I think everyone should have a chance at those jobs.

Right.

A job that pays you multiple millions of dollars to not do the job.

That's the job I want.

Right.

I'm sick of doing the job.

I'm sick of living in this country that promises all these great things.

Oh, you can do it.

You can achieve.

When we have to work

for our money, I want to work a year and get paid for four.

Yes.

Now, we're not working hard or doing a real job, of course.

We should know that.

But still,

I want no work and lots of money.

Where's that job?

Low on the work side, high on the money side.

I mean,

you could argue we probably already have that job, but I want one that's even more low on the work side.

And high on the money side.

I love that he was in his golf cart with his wife and they're at his house in Florida and they're zipping around and they're like, he looks so happy.

Of course.

Of course he's happy.

They paid him not to work.

And it looks like he can work anyway.

Yeah.

His family is now set for generations.

While you don't get that deal, I'm here for you.

I say we sue all of our companies.

So wait a minute.

This would work in my.

No, you don't want this.

I don't want this.

We need to be able to work a year and get paid for four.

I mean, if I'm president, that's my slogan.

It would probably work in the same way.

Oh, it would.

Let me ask you, you know Tucker better.

I mean, other than me, you know, talking to him briefly in our interviews, I've never talked to Tucker Carlson in my life.

Do you, what kind of person is he?

Is he the person that's going to be happy taking a giant paycheck and hanging out on the beach?

No.

Or is he the type of person who's going to want to...

No, he's the type of guy.

Like I couldn't,

if I was in his situation, then they said, hey, we're going to pay out your contract i would say fine but there is there's no non-compete there's nothing i get to do what i want otherwise i'm going to work for you because i'm going to honor my contract i could not go on the beach and waste four years and i don't he's not like that either you see what he's setting up here he's setting up a different kind of show a show where he takes big issues and debates them.

That's where he's headed.

Yeah, looking for something a little bit more substantial, which is great.

It is something we really need.

I will say it really connects when he's talking about that thing where we have these debates and then five years later, we don't even remember they happened.

It's so true.

We waste so much time on nonsense.

It's really, really crazy because when, you know, all the conventional wisdom has always been, oh, online, people want it in three minutes.

Yeah.

No more than three minutes.

Explain Joe Rogan.

Explain this podcast.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, people will listen to this podcast every day for three hours.

I mean,

I don't know how you do it.

I have to do it.

But then if I had to listen to it too, that'd be six hours of my day.

And I just couldn't handle it.

No matter what they pay, because I'm still working four other days.

Right.

That's a lot.

That's a lot of work.

But I mean, I really, I don't know how people have the time, but they're looking for longer form, intelligent

questioning and honest questioning.

And look, we try to do that every day here.

But I do think that as a society, certainly on cable news,

you see a lot of this happening where you're just, I mean, he even said it.

I've even participated in it.

And of course, we have as well.

Like,

everybody has.

But it is something that we could fix.

You know, and I think that people want.

And it's being fixed.

Yeah, it is.

It's sorting itself out.

It's just just the

damn commies that are trying to prop up the old system that is worthless.

They say it's about progress.

No, it's not.

They're propping up all the old systems.

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The Supreme Court, according to the

New York Times, and this must have killed them to write this, the Supreme Court seemed united on Wednesday, quoting the Times, in the last scheduled argument of its current term.

in a distaste for how county officials in Minnesota had treated a 94-year-old woman who had stopped paying paying property taxes on her condominium after moving into an assisted living center.

By the time the county seized the property, the woman, Geraldine Tyler, owed about $2,000 in taxes and $13,000 in penalties and interest.

The county seized her condo and sold it at auction for $40,000.

It not only kept the $15,000 that everybody agrees is the county's tax money and penalties, but the remaining $25,000.

That's a problem.

And listen to how the debate went.

According to Minnesota law,

the entire value of any property that is seized,

even when the debts owed amounted to a small portion of it, all

proceeds go to the state or the county.

The lawyer for Miss Tyler said the county had an obligation to repay the balance under the Constitution's takings clause, which said that property cannot be taken for public use without just compensation.

A debt collector may not take more than what is owed, she said.

Now, here's what happened with the justices.

They started questioning the attorneys, and

Neil

Cateyall, he's the guy who defended the county's actions.

He said this is all rooted in historic practice.

You know,

you can go back all the way to England.

And Gorsuch said,

wait a minute, wait a minute.

You're going back and you're stating English law, laws on this particular thing that was enacted in 1278 in medieval England?

The guy's well, I'm just showing you historic precedents.

He's like,

Gorsuch said, the statute of Gloucester was about lands owned by the feudal lord and what happens when a vassal fails to provide enough wheat to his lord.

I don't really understand how this is helping anybody.

So

Kagan even came out and said, are there any limits to what the county can take?

She said, I mean, $5,000 tax debt and a $5 million house.

Do you take the house and keep the rest or do you have to give it back?

The attorney for the county said, well, it wouldn't run afoul of the takings clause if we did that.

Really?

kagan pressed on asking whether the government could confiscate a hundred thousand dollars in a bank account to pay off a ten thousand dollar debt he said well cash is different then amy comey barrett asked whether a car could be seized and sold to satisfy a twenty dollar parking ticket He said, well, there's no historic tradition supporting the parking ticket.

Well, no, they didn't have cars back in 1278.

Barrett responded, well, there weren't cars back then.

Exactly what I said.

Why would we read the Constitution to disfavor real property?

That seems counterintuitive.

Chief Justice John Roberts, the loser, said, I think you have things backward.

I think you're right that there is...

a difference between the value that our history places upon money and property, but I think it's the exact opposite opposite of what you're saying.

So

it looks like pretty much all of the judges immediately rejected this.

This is so important

that they rule correctly and broadly on this.

We have a problem with our counties, our police, local, that they can just seize property.

and then not give it back to you because you were suspected of a crime and you have to prove yourself innocent.

And even when you do prove yourself innocent, they don't have to give the property back.

It is, it's absolutely un-American and unconstitutional.

This is something that I think when people start to have a problem paying their taxes, which will come,

You start,

you're not paying your property tax.

If they can take your $250,000 home for $20,000 worth of taxes and they don't have to give you that money back,

you won't have a home.

You won't have a home because it will be a way for the county to take money so they can keep their services going.

And then the federal government can just pay for their sustenance after that.

Yeah.

That'll be perfect.

What a wonderful circular economy.

Yeah, this is really important.

I have to tell you, Donald Trump was absolutely a godsend.

If we didn't have

those three

appointees in Supreme Court, Supreme Court would have been completely different, and we'd really be screwed.

We'd really be screwed.

Let me give you a couple of other things here.

The House Republicans passed a package on Wednesday to raise the debt limit through early next year.

However, it comes with a catch.

You have to reduce the government spending.

Now, the Democrats said, that is

ridiculous.

That's going to put us in the poorhouse.

There's no more food in the cupboards.

Really?

The legislation called the Limit, Save,

Grow Act of 2023 passed

217 to 215 with no Democratic support.

It was that close.

McCarthy says we can't sit back and ignore the problem like the president has.

We want to sit down.

We want to work together.

That's exactly what this bill does, to put us into an ability to negotiate.

The bill comes in response to the U.S.

approaching its debt ceiling as early as this summer.

It might even come closer to May.

early June.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is warned of an economic catastrophe.

Now, listen, this is your Treasury Secretary saying if we don't come up with an agreement for the debt ceiling, it will be an economic catastrophe.

So,

what's being done?

The Republicans have a bill that they have set up that takes away some of the just grotesque spending.

Okay, you're not getting the new IRS agents.

We're not giving you $80 million for new IRS agents.

We're also going to cut way, way back on all of these green things that you're doing and that you hid in the Inflation Reduction Act.

So don't tell me you got it passed with the American people.

The American people didn't know what it was.

And you've been on the road even saying that.

So this isn't something the American people were for.

So we're going to save $4.8 trillion

over the next year if they will pass this.

Joe Biden says, I'm not signing it.

I'll veto it.

It's not going to, it's dead.

It's not going to pass the Senate and it's dead.

And he said, I want a clean budget bill.

I want a debt ceiling bill that is clean, no conditions.

Go screw yourself, man.

I'm so sick of these people in the administration spending our money.

I mean, I heard them giving, you know, for green energy, a billion dollars.

He just gave a billion dollars to China.

How?

Why doesn't any of this have to go through Congress anymore and be debated?

How can the president just release a check for a billion dollars to a country that many of us know to be an enemy of the United States?

How can he spend our money like that?

And he's saying, nope, I want clean.

I'm sorry, dude.

That's a dictatorship.

And obviously, at $4.8 trillion,

the Republicans are, in my case, I don't think tough enough, but at least they're standing up and they're being tough on this.

You're not going to negotiate at all?

And then you're going to blame the Republicans?

That's what's happening.

You have to call your congressman.

I mean, at 217,

these people will fold like cheapsuits if they don't know that you're behind them.

It's important to call in the good times, maybe even more important in the good times.

You should call your congressmen and thank them for voting for this reduction of the deficit and the debt ceiling limit.

Call them and say,

we're on your side.

Don't give in.

Don't give in.

If they fold again, there's nothing left of the Republican Party.

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If you can't stand

and accomplish anything,

these guys are they are

governmental and economic terrorists.

You have your Secretary of Treasury saying, you have to pass this.

It has to pass.

I don't believe that, but that's what she's saying.

Economic catastrophe.

They're coming to the table and say, we'll pass it,

but there are some concessions here.

You have to work with us.

The president's saying he will not negotiate.

That's terrorist stuff.

An economic terrorist.

And think of how low our standards are at this point.

Like, your first standard would be, don't go into debt, right?

Like, that would be.

No more.

No more.

Not raising the debt ceiling.

No, no, I'm not even saying that.

Your first standard would be, don't go into debt.

There's no ceiling to hit because you don't, you spend within your means, right?

Right, right.

We've completely abandoned that, obviously.

Then you have the debt limit.

And you could say, well, maybe the debt limit was set for to say, okay, well, let's come up with a really high number that we should never bump up against.

But that's not even what this is.

No.

So forget that standard, too.

This standard, the debt ceiling as it exists right now, is designed to just, hey, when we get close to this

this point we will all realize we're out of control and we need to make some changes to slow this down right and then we can even raise it the democrats won't even hit that standard they won't even say let's just come together and figure out a couple things to slow this down they are saying we want to be able to spend any amount of money at any time and what's the point of having a debt ceiling at all if you're going to have that standard.

I think the Democrats made that argument a couple of years ago.

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actually suggesting Donald Trump consider?

Yes, I did see that proposal.

Not excited about it.

This is nuts.

He's saying Trump should pick as his vice president RFK Jr.

Now,

there is some

sound thinking here.

You just read a poll to me off air that shows Biden at what?

RFK.

Let me give you this to you.

This is an Emerson poll,

and it has Joe Biden at 70% of the vote in the Democratic primary, RFK Jr.

at 21, which is really high for a candidate that is not, you know,

just in.

And not a mainstream candidate.

Not thought of as a real threat to Biden.

So 21% is high for a challenge.

And

Emerson may not be reliable on this particular poll, but let's take it at face value.

Let's say it is.

I think this speaks volumes because he's running.

It's hard to say with a straight face.

He's running as an anti-establishment, small government kind of guy.

He wants to break up the deep state.

He wants to break up the CIA.

He wants to

go after the CDC.

He wants all these experts out.

That's what he's running on.

Well, that's the same thing that Donald Trump is running on.

So that says, if this poll is right, that says 21%

out of the box without really hearing a case,

21% are saying, I want somebody to break it up.

Of Democrats, of Democrats.

That shows we have more in common than ever before.

So if that were true, and I can't base base it on one poll, but if that were true,

politically, just by the numbers, that would make sense.

But I wouldn't, I would hate to lose President Trump and receive

a die-hard

liberal.

I mean,

die-hard.

Arrest people who don't, who oppose climate change.

That is literally one of the things he said many, many times over the years.

If you don't go with the Al Gore version of climate change, you should be arrested and thrown in prison.

And he means it.

He means it.

He means it.

So, no.

I'm sorry, Mr.

Bannon.

I think that's a very bad idea.

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There's a couple of things that I want to address.

One is

Disney filed suit against Ron DeSantis yesterday

because they say he is just playing games and doesn't have a right to do what he did.

And

I thoroughly disagree with that, but I don't think people understand

what Ron DeSantis

did.

You know, I think they just see, oh, he got into a fight with Disney and he could lose.

And I think it would be very bad for him to lose this.

It's a fascinating political story for sure because what's the argument for Ron DeSantis to be president?

It's not that he fights with the media.

I mean, Donald Trump already fights with the media.

And the argument for DeSantis is that he does these things in

a more professionalized way and he scores real victories where Trump, again, I'm not saying I endorse this argument, but like Trump gets in fights.

He's thinking about himself.

He likes the press coverage, but there's no policy win that comes out of that, no real pushback, where the argument with DeSantis is competency, right?

The argument is he's running a state.

He's winning elections by big margins.

And when he enters in one of these big fights, he wins it and he scores a real policy victory.

You know, if he loses this against Disney, there's a huge dent in that idea.

And one person who will notice that is named Donald Trump.

And he will be pointing this out all the time.

He's already started.

Correct.

Now, I don't know that you can say at this point that DeSantis has lost this.

You know,

the back and forth is still up in the air.

Now, Disney's suing, but that's going to go on probably through this entire campaign.

So people need to understand

what happened,

what deal you're even talking about.

It's 1964,

and somebody is buying up all the land in Florida, just

hundreds and hundreds and thousands of acres.

And the press is starting to speculate.

And they think that it's maybe Ford,

McDonnell Douglas, Boeing, or Lockheed.

Disney isn't even in the running

because Disney was courting San uh St.

Louis

and he was serious about making another Disneyland in St.

Louis.

But because St.

Louis is known for brewing brewing companies

and he wouldn't allow beer in the park, He knew that was going to be a sticking point.

So he continued to negotiate with them while they decided on Florida.

Now, in

St.

Louis, he would have built another just Disneyland, but Walt was driven by, he didn't want the theme park.

That's not what he was building in Florida.

It was called the Florida Project.

And he did not want to build the theme park.

His brother forced him to build the Magic Kingdom first because he's like, your dream is very expensive and we're going to have to pay for it.

So we're selling tickets so you can do the other.

And so what Walt wanted was complete rights to the land.

Disney World is

the closest thing you will ever get to

like a Native American reservation where the United States has really nothing to say, Florida has nothing to say.

It's as close to its own country as possible.

And that's because Disney was selling everybody that he was going to go to San Francisco or to St.

Louis, and every state wanted him because they saw what it did to Anaheim and to California.

And Disney had said in like 64, when I do this, I will make

this the number one destination in the world.

So he held all of the cards in 64.

So he starts buying things up.

Nobody knows.

Behind the scenes, he's talking to Governor Burns, I think was his name, in Florida.

And he makes all kinds of deals with Florida without anybody knowing it in the press.

He had the right to have a nuclear power plant on Disney property.

He had

unbelievable rights.

All trash he could take care of and take care of all the trash in process because he was going to do all of these experiments to redesign American cities.

So he wanted this large scope where he could do just about anything.

That's what Ron DeSantis is taking away.

Okay.

Now, Walt died in 66, or I mean, 65,

the governor and Walt Disney and Roy Disney said, hey, Disney Florida project, it's coming to Florida.

And it was a big hoopla.

But in 66, Walt dies.

Walt's the guy who knows what he's.

what he was planning.

He's on his deathbed and he's talking to his brother and he says, please promise me that you will build Epcot.

And he said, okay, yes, I will, Walt.

But no one understood it.

No one understood it.

He was truly

redesigning cities, the way everything worked, from traffic to housing to paint to

everything, everything.

When he dies,

all that goes away because Roy is like, I don't, nobody understood that vision.

He only had it.

We can't do that.

I, no, nobody, nobody understood him.

He was so far ahead of his time.

So he dies a year after this is given this power.

Now, this power allows Disney to be their own police, everything.

Okay.

It gives them, most importantly, it gives them the power of

no inspections.

So So you want to build a ride?

There's no delay on that.

You don't have to wait for county approval or anything.

You have to, Disney approves it, okay?

And they have that because Walt was so trusted and the brand was so strong and Florida was so desperate.

Well, Disney made them the number one destination, but they should not have any of those rights.

Imagine being universal.

SeaWorld.

All of the hoops and red tape that you have to put up with if you want to build a new ride.

All of the inspections, all of the money that goes to the county and the state for all of the license, for everything you have to do.

Disney doesn't have to do that.

Is that fair at all?

First of all, the reason why they have those privileges ended in 1966.

They have kept those privileges and they've been decent stewards of their park and the land, etc., etc.,

but it has become an unfair advantage the minute other parks started to be built around Disney.

Now it's

now it's a public-private partnership.

Now the state has partnered with Disney and really

they can do anything they want because it's completely unfair competition.

So when

he's arguing with Disney and Disney starts to get involved in politics, DeSantis, it wasn't something that was like

vindictive.

It was like, okay, really?

You're going to cross into politics.

You know what?

I think you've gotten too big for your britches.

And

let me look into you guys.

What kind of special deals do you have?

DeSantis, I don't know if he even knew about the history of the, I think it's the Reedy Creek Council.

I don't even know if he knew the real history before he started looking into it.

This is something that should have been dropped a long time ago if you believe in the free market.

But they're suing him and saying that they deserve that, and that's the deal.

It was a deal in 1965.

For Walt, not Roy, for Walt.

And I think you could argue, look, as a conservative, moving closer to that for all the parks might be a good standard, right?

Like,

not just singling out one.

Correct.

Like, giving other parks the rights to be a little bit more innovative and do their own thing.

as well.

Maybe not that entire package they gave Walt, but like I think lowering red tape is a great idea in most of these circumstances.

But these other places don't have those rights.

Right.

And you can't give, just because Disney

that I know of hasn't had a lot of people die on the pirates of the Caribbean,

they should still have to go through inspections.

What about the racism of the Splashdown ride?

Well, the Splashdown, that was

the state not being involved.

I'll tell you that right now.

But, like, because I agree with you here, right?

I agree that they should not have special rights.

But we are kind of kidding ourselves if we think the reason he changed this policy or attempted to change this policy on Disney.

I think he got it through the legislature, did he?

He did, but then they passed, before the changeover happened, they passed a bunch of ridiculous, like, for the next hundred years, we get to do whatever we want type of restrictions, right?

It's hard to follow this stuff exactly, and everyone's kind of giving their own piece of this.

But the bottom line is Ron DeSantis is not doing this because he thinks the special

area is unfair on its face.

It's because of this additional controversy with the way that they were jumping into politics.

You know,

when you have something that is so really

great

and you know it and others don't really know it and haven't been bringing it up, that's why you just want to play nice.

Yeah, play nice.

You just like, don't notice me.

Don't notice me.

And they weren't playing nice.

And they thought they held all the cards.

Well, you don't because there's been a lot of politicians over the years that have wanted to reverse this.

This is not the first time people have talked about it.

Oh, yeah.

This is just the first time they actually got it done.

So, you know, it's somebody jumping up, getting in your face and saying, really?

I'll crush you.

I'll crush you.

And the state saying, huh, well, that's interesting.

I don't have to crush you.

I'm just going to take away all those favors because right now you created the political environment.

So I have the support to change that right now.

They've been trying for decades, but everybody liked you.

And so it could never be changed.

But now you've made yourself unlikable.

And I'm not holding the dogs at bay.

Go ahead.

Take it from them.

But, but

if, because I think every conservative was on board with that, or most of them, right?

Saying, yeah, you know what?

They stepped in it and they should have to pay a punishment.

And he said, I can make them pay a punishment.

But then they, right before this changeover, did something to allow themselves to have many of these rights for a very long time in the future.

And if his stance was, I will show you my power, and they said it's not going to work on us, and now they're suing.

If he can't find a way to present this to the voters as a win, it's going to look bad for him, and it's going to be an anchor in this campaign.

It's going to be bad,

but especially because people don't understand how unfair the business practice is of Disney.

Yeah.

And that it was, this is not something new.

This has been argued about for a very long time.

And so they think, oh, he's just being a bully.

No, he's letting them.

They created the situation to where that could pass.

And it will be a problem because Donald Trump will make it a huge issue.

Oh, he will make sure everybody knows.

Oh, yeah.

He'll make that a huge, huge issue.

So, and again, like so far, the answer has been, you know, you've heard rumors of like, ah, we might build prisons on Disney property.

It's like, I don't think that's the way you're going to get a win out of this.

He's got to find something to reverse what they did.

And it's, I don't know what the legal ramifications of that, but he needs to find that way.

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Let me throw this at you.

How many people

even have heard anything but maybe one news break about the April 15th shooting at a 16-year-old birthday party in Dadeville.

It's in Alabama.

There were four people killed, 32 others injured, four of them critically.

It happened at a dance studio with a 16-year-old.

It's one of the largest shootings in American history.

It happened April 15th.

Have you heard of it?

What's wild about this is all of the kids that were killed are black.

But all of the people that killed them were also black.

They have now arrested six people and they're all charged with four counts of murder.

Okay?

But this isn't getting any headlines.

In fact, the BBC

ran the story and said a community mourns and everyone in the picture was white.

CNN did the same thing.

Gosh, guys,

why don't...

why aren't you standing on this story and why are you only featuring white people in that story?

You want to talk about racism?

You want to talk about using black people and not caring?

I think this would be a strong case for that.

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