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All right, I was thinking

this weekend about the power of the individual and how we have

been trained to forget this.

And we've been trained by very powerful people and organizations.

It used to be that we could be trained by corporations, but

now it's corporations alongside the government.

And so we feel even more small, but don't.

Because I want to tell you, I want to take you through a story here that takes you from the early 20th century with a guy out in a field all the way to where we are today.

Back in the early 20th century, one American found himself alone on a battlefield, not one of bullets and bombs, but a battle of wits and innovation and stamina.

The battle that would determine the fate of an industry and all of our lives individually.

Our protagonist, born to humble beginnings, in a log cabin of all places.

But he was ingenious.

As a teenager, he had a really uncanny ability to envision the future beyond the limits of his time.

His favorite was science and mathematics, and

he would dream with his science teacher all the time.

who first thought he was a little nuts and then realized, no,

he's genius.

And he faced all kinds of obstacles that would have broken the will of many.

But he was driven by an unshakable belief that tomorrow can be better than today.

And it would be the individual that would do that.

The giants of industry, the titans of commerce, the lords of finance, when he started get going, everyone stood against him.

He had one opponent,

one that tried hard to discredit his ideas.

He sabotaged his work.

He sent spies into this little guy's workshop.

But no matter how much this guy spent, no matter how much power this man had, no matter how much he would expend in resources,

our little hero just kept working at night.

One day he was plowing a field on his family's farm.

And he turned his plow and looked

as he was starting a new row, and he saw all of the rows.

And it gave him an idea.

It gave him an idea of a series of dots.

That moment changed the entire world.

When he brought it up, ridicule, skepticism, betrayal from those he trusted.

He put a little lab in San Francisco and

he couldn't get anybody to invest.

He was making the equipment, so it kept failing because

he didn't know how to make it, and they were making it for the first time.

So he started making his own little components and improvised solutions.

He had an unwavering faith in his vision

and America.

1927, September 7th, 1927.

He transmitted the very first electronic television image, a straight line.

He used a single beam of electrons.

This led him to a fully functional all-electronic television system.

And as the years passed, the fruits of his labor began to take shape.

And one day, to the astonishment of the world, he unveiled his creation, a groundbreaking innovation that would change the way we work, the way we live, the way we communicate.

The invention, a marvel of modern engineering and design, captivated the public, sent shockwaves through the industries that once sought to destroy him.

The giants that scoffed at him now found themselves scrambling to catch up as their empires began to crumble.

Through a series of lengthy battles with these giants in court, he defended his patents.

He secured his place in history.

That little man who faced the insurmountable odds and emerged victorious was none other than Philo Farnsworth.

He was the inventor of the fully functional all electronic television system.

The device that brought families together around the glow of its scream, that shaped the culture, connected us to the world, to space, we saw a man walk on the moon, was the brainchild of a man who fought a lonely battle against the giants of his time, and it's all but forgotten.

But it all started with a guy who was working out in a field, and when he turned his plow and saw those lines, he thought, if I put dots of color

into lines, several lines,

I'll be able to transmit a picture.

Those dots we now know as pixels,

and it is the building block of every image that we see today.

So here was step one.

But in our story, it takes a long time for things to change.

For instance, Marconi

He comes up with the idea that you can have sound over sound waves.

That's around the turn of the century.

It was 1933 that FM radio was first discovered by a guy named Edwin

Armstrong.

And Edmund Armstrong invents it, but he works for the same guy that was suing Philo Farnsworth.

And this time he wins.

He says this was developed solely for RCA, and he put it in a safe.

Invented in 1933, but but the greed of a capitalist named Sarnoff

let that thing sit in a vault until they had sold all the AM radios they could possibly do.

And then the invention of television

came and made radio less and less important.

And he had to finally, in the 1960s, pull it out of the vault.

And it wasn't until the 1970s that FM radio came.

And then that was abolished.

Why?

Because really the cell phone,

the internet.

One of the key visionaries was Martin Cooper.

He's the father of the cell phone.

He knew that not only could we use a phone like we used to use an AT ⁇ T phone,

but it would also allow us to access all kinds of media at the time when he thought it j television.

We could have television on our phones.

Lots of things had to happen in between.

3G and 4G networks that we know today,

that's really what's made this possible.

And then Apple in 2007 with the smartphone.

Large touch screen displays, powerful processing units.

All of that had to happen.

And it took down yet another industry.

And we used it to take down cable television.

When they said,

go ahead, say whatever you want, but not on this platform.

Go make your own.

We did.

In 2011, we launched something called Blaze TV.

At the time, traditional cable networks were still the dominant force in news and entertainment.

And I remember sitting

in my office looking at my news team and Stu, my executive producer, and I said, this is all going to come collapsing down around them.

And we embraced the power of the internet.

And we embraced the power of an audience.

and we passed bypassed the gatekeepers of television

and we made the blaze an independent place for the voice to be heard

and you liked it and you subscribed it was a place to connect and hear the truth engage in thoughtful discussions about the issues that matter most

and because of our success others followed in our footsteps and a new wave of independent media organizations emerged and leveraged the power of the internet to create alternative sources for information and entertainment.

And we all strive, and we all have thrived,

on the principles of honesty and integrity and intellectual curiosity, something that is all but dead in the mainstream media.

All of this stuff always comes crashing down, and it always seems tragic to those who are trying to hang on to the past.

But don't hang on to the past, hang on to the principles of the past.

Because

eventually,

AM radio goes away,

FM radio is the king,

and local television stations are the king, and then

cable becomes the king.

And while those things still remain,

they become less important.

And today,

news,

all of the so-called truth-tellers have exposed themselves in their desperation,

in their desperation just to survive, not to be relevant, but just to survive.

They are willing to call a woman a man and a man a woman.

When really the way to survive is to just remain loyal only to the truth.

We're not battling people.

We're battling desperation.

We're battling evil.

A relentless barrage of falsehoods and manipulations.

But the truth will always weather the storm.

Most people don't know.

I named the blaze after two things, and one of them was the burning bush of Moses.

It was a fire of truth that burned but never consumed.

As long as it is truthful, that fire will burn and never consume.

I just want to remind you

that things always change,

that individuals make all of the difference.

Our country is a testament to the power of innovation and resilience and the unwavering belief of the individual, the importance of free speech and open discourse and a rule of law.

Let that be your beacon of hope this week.

That no matter what is collapsing around us,

there's somebody,

somebody, thinking of something much better,

and it's growing.

And right now, as we see the collapse of truth, just know you have helped build that something that will replace those lies

a positive change

is possible

if we believe in the truth and ourselves

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Well, hello to Stew Brig here.

Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

Very well.

How are you?

Good.

How was your weekend?

It was good.

Good.

Yeah.

Good, good.

1,900 little league games.

And

my kids are in that age that that is the entire weekend.

I had a birthday party for one of my kids.

Yeah.

We went to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in a movie theater.

Really?

I haven't done that since I was probably about six.

Yeah.

Okay.

You have to see it in a movie theater.

It is a totally different experience.

You're talking, please tell me you're talking about the original.

Oh, Gene Wilder.

Okay, thank you.

Of course.

The other one's an abomination.

Okay.

We don't even mention that.

Okay.

No, it is a totally different experience.

How?

It is hysterical with a crowd.

Really?

With a crowd, you know, when you snicker or you're like, uh-uh, you know, and he's like, oh, no, please stop.

When he does things like that, you kind of just laugh in your head.

If you're watching it, you know, which is your family.

The audience laughs hard and you recognize it is so much more a comedy

than really anything else.

It does not take itself seriously.

It's really a different experience.

That's great.

Yeah.

It's so good.

It's still an all-time classic, that movie.

Gene Wilder, he was the best.

So good.

So good.

In that role.

And so he changed it too.

I mean, on his own, kind of went in there and just did it.

kind of a different way than they were expecting.

And that changed the history of it.

Yeah.

My daughter,

she was working at a grocery store when she was younger and working at a grocery store.

And

she said, this old man

kind of came up to her and he's like, I'm sorry, I don't have my glasses.

Can you just tell me if this is...

And she's like, she's turning around.

She's like, that sounds like Willie Wonka.

And it was, it was Gene Wilder.

And she was like,

yes, sir.

That's what I said.

She said, because I know you, Dad.

I know what people, you know,

people, you just leave me, let me just let me shop.

You know what I mean?

And so she didn't say anything.

And I'm like, it's Willie Wonka.

You got to say something to him.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

Did he like have a cane and sort of start to fall over and then do a somersault?

You know, that is the reason why he accepted.

That was his condition.

Then the producers came to him.

He said, I'll play it, but on, on, on, on one condition, I get to introduce the character as I want to introduce the character.

And they said, well, what does that mean?

He said, not in a creepy Johnny Depp sort of way.

He said, I want to come out with a cane and I want to limp and then I want the cane to stick and I'm going to do a somersault and stand up.

That's how I wanted it.

And they were like,

that's your condition?

Okay.

So anyway.

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Hey, I don't know if you saw what happened in Chicago.

Can we roll the tape on Chicago?

Nothing.

Nothing really bad happening in Chicago this weekend.

Okay, so there were some teenagers that got a little out of control, maybe a little bit,

smashing windows and destroying public and private property and

shootings and things like that, and everything was on fire.

But that's no big deal.

What is the problem?

Can't blame them.

Look,

this has happened multiple times now.

The incredible leadership of the city of Chicago has been there.

They try to correct it.

And

this is the result of it.

And they took out Lori Lightfoot to put in someone who might actually be worse.

Yeah.

It's hard to do.

Yeah, which is really hard to do.

Very difficult to do, but they've done it.

And this will continue now.

So I'd just like to ask,

Escape from New York, I think it's probably going to be escape from Chicago before New York, you know, but escape from New York, it will be a prison because you take those 10 bridges out and nobody's getting off that island.

So,

but you're going to have to have somebody come in and rescue people in Chicago.

It's going to get bad.

Imagine if society would break down.

They're doing this already.

And society hasn't broken down.

Oh, that's going to be good.

It's going to be good.

No, seriously, it's going to be good.

We should talk about things, you know.

But we don't generally do that.

But I think we should start.

What is happening to us?

Because we're about to enter a whole new world.

We're about to give birth to something.

Our due date is coming.

You know,

I was reading the Bible this weekend, and I saw the words ripened fruit.

And I thought, oh, wow, that's what we are.

We are in our decay.

We are ripened fruit, ready either for the picking or just to fall and rot on the ground.

We got to change things.

We have to start turning things around.

And unfortunately, we have some huge issues that

we're not paying attention to and we're not making progress.

We just keep arguing left versus right.

We keep arguing Democrat or Republican.

That's a really pretty useless argument at this point.

Why don't we start arguing principles?

Because if we don't return to those principles, we're in trouble.

Here's the latest news on AI.

Do you know that AI, ChatGPT and AI, it is doubling,

what would you say is fast?

It is doubling its power, its intellect, its toolbox, if you will,

every 48 hours.

Every 48 hours, it's doubling.

They've never seen anything like this.

They're surprised.

Whoa, we're surprised.

Really?

You were surprised?

Huh?

Because, you know, again, a guy who doesn't have all of your education, I swear to you, I should just be in some of these labs.

I should go over to Wuhan and I should just be there like, you know what?

This is going to escape.

Here's how it's going to escape.

And then you're forced to listen to me.

I think.

I think.

If we're going to have a world, we should just make the bankers listen to me and go, you know,

that system there.

I think you're relying too much on that.

And you're doing all this bad stuff that weakens that.

So you should doing that.

Just all we need are just a bunch of farmers, really.

Anybody, anybody who's just a regular schmo who's paying attention, you know all this.

You know all these things are coming.

AI

doubling

every 48 hours.

That will mean for the average,

let's say a cell phone,

it will make the

progress that a smartphone made from 2007 when it was first introduced to 2018

in the next six months.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That seems pretty fast.

You are now entering a time where they're talking about we should shut this down.

We should at least pause for a while.

Well, you can't now because China is already there and China is not going to shut it down.

So do you want China to surpass the United States?

How about this?

We just shut down

the American innovation that's public and we have everybody just work for the government like a Manhattan project.

So then the government is the only one with AI.

Oh, that sounds good too, doesn't it?

There are no good options and too many nefarious people.

When I saw the teenagers, I thought, oh yeah, no, no, there's not people that just want to see the world burn.

Because ChatGPT, as it stands now, you can

make a weapon of mass destruction with ChatGPT.

You could, right now, if you're really nefarious, say,

find the most important people in institutions

and

search them out,

develop

fake

web portals for all of these banks and send emails out and say, you got to change, go through this web portal.

And it looks just like Bank of America.

And as it's rejected or accepted, it learns how to write that letter to get you to go through that portal.

And then once it has all of your information, it just clears your bank accounts.

And it does it with everybody who is very, very, very wealthy, does it to the corporations, does it to anybody that will log online, not the little people.

It's a weapon of mass destruction.

That could happen today

with ChatGPT and it will learn.

You could do that today.

I was listening to David Sachs on All In, his podcast, and they were talking about scenarios like that.

They're like, done, what do you think?

And David was like, well, we should just wait for regulation.

We don't know what we're dealing with yet.

And I'm like, what do we, what do you mean, wait?

It's doubling every two days.

How long do we wait?

30 days?

Five weeks?

How long do we wait?

Because the world is going to change at an exponential pace.

And I don't have a solution.

I don't think there is a solution except

for all of us coming back to true principles and understanding self-regulation.

Just because you can do something, Wuhan Labs,

you don't do it.

Just because you can, you don't.

I mean,

I appreciate your

this as an important principle for humanity generally.

Yes.

But I don't even know how that solves this problem.

I mean, what does self-regulation do to the, and as you point out, all of us using the

very easy-to-achieve standard of full compliance.

I mean, are we like, well,

the idea is either we self-regulate, which won't happen.

There's always, I mean, in billions of people, there's somebody who's like, I'm just going to

set the whole world on fire.

Always somebody.

It's always somebody.

And if we don't have it, if the average person doesn't have it, because, well, we're going to protect, we're going to protect everybody.

Then you have governments in charge of it.

Like they're not going to enslave the world.

All right.

That's going to be terrible, too.

Yeah.

Horrible.

This is bordering, I will be honest, on one of those problems.

And there's a few of them out there that just feels so big that I just kind of throw my hands up and don't care about it anymore.

That is like where I'm starting to get with AI.

Well, because it's either it's something's going to happen with it, and I know I can't control it.

And I don't know, I honestly don't know what the answer is.

It's coming way too fast.

The answer is the answer I gave in 2007 or 8, unplug from the system.

Make sure that you're not reliant on giant systems.

I read an interesting manifesto by a guy who lived in a shack who recommended the same thing.

I'm starting to wonder

between him and the villain in a view to a kill.

I mean,

did they have some of this down?

Do you remember the guy we interviewed?

What was his name from

Yale University, mathematician?

Oh, yeah.

Incredible guy.

Yeah, yeah.

He has a black glove on his hand, like Darth Vader, because he was the first target of the Unibomber.

Hold on, let me ask AI what his name is.

Okay.

And he opened up his mailbox and it, a bomb of nails, went off.

He is in tremendous pain to this day.

I'm trying to remember his name.

And

he wrote a book about about this time.

And the Unibomber missed his point.

He was like, guys, we shouldn't go here.

This is what the world looks like.

And he said,

I think Ted Kaczynski just read like the first half of the book where I was explaining what can be done.

Because in the second half of the book, I'm like, we shouldn't do it.

But.

So he didn't, Ted Kaczynski didn't get it from him.

He got this technology from a guy who

has worked for Apple.

He's won the biggest case.

I think he won a billion-dollar case against Apple for stealing some software.

I mean, he's a genius and he's been warning about it for a long time.

And what he says is the same thing that it's going to, guys, this is going to, you're going to see.

All of these lines come together.

All of these things that are problems, they're all going to come down to one solution.

And that solution is you strengthening your core with God.

That's it.

It's the only thing that remember when I said to you, there's going to come a time when you're going to be walking down the street and you're going to hear, don't go there, turn around.

And you've got to stop and turn around and not question that voice.

That time is right around the corner.

Right around the corner.

Profound change is coming.

And it doesn't mean that that's bad.

It just means that you have to be prepared.

Somebody asked me, well, let me take a quick break and I'll come back and finish this thought.

Dr.

David Galertner, by the way.

Galertner, that's what it is.

All right.

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I mean, this is where this is the only thing is saving my sanity with my kids.

I did the best I could at the time.

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So I was just asking ChatGPT, what can I do to raise my credit score?

You got

number one, pay your bills on time.

Number two, reduce your credit utilization.

Number three, check your credit report for errors.

Number four, keep old credit accounts open.

And number five, limit new credit applications.

And then it says, remember, shut up, you sound like my father.

It says, remember, improving your credit score takes time and effort.

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Right now, you would say, I'm not going to New York City.

I mean, crime is crazy there, and it is.

6,000 arrests, 6,000 arrests just for shoplifting.

How many people does that involve?

How many people are doing the bulk of all of the shoplifting?

347.

347 people in Manhattan have turned that almost into a prison situation when you go into a drugstore or a shopping center.

We still surround the bad guys.

There are more of us, and I mean Democrats, Republicans, Independents, there are more people that believe in God, just haven't said anything.

I don't know why.

Maybe because we've never, ever

had to fight for it.

We've never had to fight for what we believe.

We've always been a country that believes in tolerance.

I still believe in tolerance,

but not of lies, not of lies.

Sorry, you know, you can believe you are a man and you can have a baby, but don't teach that to my kids.

Don't teach that to my kids.

You can think you want to have sex and sex is normal with a six-year-old, but society doesn't, and I'm not tolerant on that one.

Yeah, no, you can't really.

Yeah.

You can't think that.

Correct.

You can, but you belong in jail.

I guess thought crimes are not possible.

Right.

But if we come up with a way to make them possible, if we get the people, what are the three things, the three dudes or ladies in the milk in

what movie is that?

The Tom Cruise movie?

What are they like bathing in milk?

Of course, you do.

You've referenced it a thousand times on this show.

I don't know it.

I don't watch people bathe in milk movies.

What's the name of the state?

I don't.

Yeah, so Sarah doesn't even know.

You all know this.

You're a freak.

You are a weird.

You're freezing me out.

You're a real freak.

Anyway.

What is the name of the?

So where do you get your hope from?

Where do you get your hope from?

People.

Shut up.

People have asked me just this weekend.

Somebody said to me, Where I listen to you every day.

How do you do it every day?

Yeah, I would be hopeless.

And I'm like, well, it's my job to do it.

So I do it every day because I believe in something and I believe my job is to warn people.

But you're right, it is very tiring.

But I'm not hopeless

because I know God and I have seen Him in my own life.

He has taken me, a worthless, hopeless alcoholic who screwed up everything in His life,

and He's put me in a position where by my actions, I can either cause trust or distrust.

That's an amazing thing.

Because I didn't get me here.

My talent?

Nope.

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When it comes to talent, nope.

Not me.

By the way, thankfully, we put this hour on YouTube and all of our commenters are correctly identifying Minority Report as the movie I was talking about.

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That's not they're taking a milk bath.

Yes, they're in the milk bath.

They're pre-prized.

They're not girls.

They're three girls taking milk baths.

I'd say.

With Tom Cruise, that's a totally different image than the pre-congs.

They're three girls in the milk telling you about pre-crime.

That's exactly.

I nailed it.

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All right, so I guess I was trending.

I don't pay attention to this stuff.

I guess I was trending over the weekend and all for the wrong reasons.

Because the George Soros money that is, you know, so proudly on display at Media Matters,

a group that Hillary Clinton, you know, she doesn't like misinformation.

Hillary Clinton, Podesta, and George Soros started.

I think it was Podesta, wasn't it?

There's three of them.

They started Media Matters.

And they have spent money to cloud issues because they know Americans really just hear things and move on.

I was trending this weekend because apparently I'm an anti-Semite again.

And I'm not saying any of this to defend myself.

I need you to hear the point.

Need you to hear the point.

I was talking last week about doctors and how concerned I am about our medical profession.

It's happening all over the world.

Norway just cleared the path so you can kill children if they're terminally ill.

This is not a good thing.

It's not a good thing.

Every time this happens, it starts with compassion and it ends in mass slaughter.

And it is not,

usually the ones who lead it are not the Nazis.

Okay?

They're not.

They're the doctors and nurses.

They're the scientists.

When people say follow the science, that's what it leads to.

Okay?

And

I'm going to teach you some things that maybe

you didn't know.

You had never even heard before.

When we got rid of slavery in the United States and the world for the first time started to really turn universally

in the

Western countries against slavery,

when that happened, Something else happened right around the same time.

And it was the publishing of this book.

I tried to get a first edition copy of this the other day.

150,000.

So I'm going to stick with our eighth edition copy.

A very important book, Origin of the Species.

This is Darwin.

And most people don't know that Darwin, the name of origin of the species,

It's not, that's not the full name.

By means of natural selection.

Okay.

Origin of the species by means of natural selection.

Maybe people will know that.

They don't know.

Or

the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life.

Of favored races.

Which means there are favored races and there are inferior races.

This was the first time science, if you follow the science, it codified it.

Then he wrote Descent of Man.

And in that, he makes it even more clear that there are inferior races.

So if you want to look for the codification,

the justification

of racism in America and the world, I would say a lot of it is not from, but codified, institutionalized, made okay

through Darwin.

Because he teaches us favored races.

Okay.

So what happened from there?

Well, the American institutions and the German institutions of higher learning, again, the scientists, the doctors, the anthropologists, the psychiatrists, they all embrace this.

And they're like, well, if there's favored races, we've got to get rid of the undesirable races.

Okay.

The other was, maybe we can speed up the transition and make everybody part of that favored race because you know science stuff.

So I said last week that it wasn't the Nazis that were killing the people in the Holocaust.

It was the Nazi doctors that were doing it.

And I saw a post somebody sent to me and said, Glenn,

you should see where were their uniforms.

If they were

not

just doctors, they would have had uniforms.

And I'm like, have you ever looked up Joseph Mengele?

He was a famous doctor.

He's wearing a uniform.

I mean, they were high up in the SS.

Also, too,

my understanding, at least of your, certainly in the context, it seemed that you were indicating at the beginning right like you're not saying they mean after a while that yeah no they wanted to bring

the ones who brought this let me let me just explain now i'm going to use and i'll tell you what i'm using later but just for this demonstration i'm using what some people might think is a sketchy source okay oh great but uh nobody hear me out

right i'm guaranteed somebody is gonna complain and they go that source that's not but i'll tell you about that that later.

Joseph Mengele, one of the most infamous, I'm reading from this

website.

Joseph Mengela is one of the most famous figures in the Holocaust.

His service at Auschwitz and the medical experiments he conducted have made him the most widely recognized perpetrator of the crimes committed in that camp.

Because of his infamy, Mengele has been the subject of numerous popular books, films, and television shows.

Many of these portrayals distort the real facts of Mengela's crimes and take him out of his historic context, and they

portray him as a mad scientist who conducted statistic experiments with no scientific bases.

Now that's an important phrase, isn't it?

People remember him as a crazy.

He wasn't.

The truth about Mengele is more disturbing.

He was a highly trained doctor and medical researcher, as well as a decorated war veteran.

He was respected in his field and worked for one of the leading research institutions in Germany.

Much of his medical research at Auschwitz supported the work of other German scientists.

He was one of dozens of biomedical researchers who conducted experiments on prisoners in Nazi concentration camps.

And he was one of a number of medical professionals who selected victims to be murdered in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.

Okay?

Mengele acted, listen carefully, now it's a sketchy source, Mengele acted within the norms of German science

under the Nazi regime.

His crimes represent the extreme danger posed by science

when it is conducted in the service of an ideology that denies the rights, dignity, and even humanity of certain groups of people.

Okay.

So they were doing experiments, these doctors, just in the camps.

This is late.

They're doing these experiments.

And they're doing experiments as physicians on sterilization, how to treat infertility.

Also, they were doing drug trials for Bayer and

IG Farben.

So Bayer aspirin, those people, were paying these people for research for new drugs.

Mengele did not actively support the Nazi Party before it came to power.

However, in 1931, he joined the

Stahlheim, the paramilitary of another right-wing party, the German National People's Party.

Mengele became a member of the Nazi SA when it was absorbed into the Stalem in 1933, but he ceased his activity in the Nazi Party in 1934.

During his university studies, however, Mengele embraced racial science.

What is that, Stu?

What is...

Again, I'm trying to remember.

What is the basis of racial science?

I don't know.

Is there a subtitle of a particular book that might point to that answer?

Like Favored Races or something?

I can't think of one.

He believed that Germans were biologically different and superior to members of all other races.

Racial science was a fundamental tenet of Nazi ideology.

Hitler used racial science to justify the forced sterilization of persons with certain physical, mental, and physical deformities.

The Nuremberg race laws, which outlawed marriage between Germans and Jewish, black, and Romani peoples, were also based upon

favored races.

Just to remind you, this is a very, very expensive book you keep banging on the table.

Yes.

This is eighth edition.

This is still pretty expensive.

It is.

In 1938, Mengele joined the Nazi Party and the SS in his work as a scientist.

He sought to support the Nazi goal of maintaining and increasing the supposed superiority of the German race.

Mengela's employer,

not the German, not the German Nazis, his employer and mentor,

Dr.

Wirtschuer,

he was working at a clinic, and I'll tell you the name of that here when I get to the sources,

also embraced biological racism.

In addition to conducting research,

Virtauer and his staff, including Mengele,

provided expert opinions to Nazi authorities who had to determine whether a person were qualified as a German under the Nuremberg laws.

So they were just scientists and they were getting some funding from the government because their goals matched.

And they were getting money from

pharmaceutical companies because their goals matched.

Not all of them.

It wasn't one of them at first.

Was it one of these things, though, where like all these scientists believe the exact opposite?

Nazis come into power and then all of a sudden they had to change what they believed.

Correct.

Was it that type of situation?

No, it really.

It really wasn't.

Really?

Scientists in the biomedical fields, especially anthropologists, psychiatrists, geneticists, many of the medically trained experts played a role in legitimizing these policies and helping to implant them.

They'd embraced these ideas before Hitler came to power.

Wait, what was that last part?

They embraced these ideas before Hitler took to power.

And they would welcome the regime because of its support of eugenics and support of their research.

Wait, not the other way around?

Not the other way around.

Isn't that weird?

Again,

you're sourcing on this.

I think that's an interesting proposal, but like until you hear a source.

Yeah, and we don't, we can't judge.

Well, let me just give you one more thing, Okay.

Physicians were drawn disproportionately to Nazism due to overcrowding in the profession aggravated by economic depression and as a backlash to the relatively high proportion of Jews in the medical practice.

So it wasn't just the eugenics doctors.

It was also

11%

of the German physicians were Jewish.

So that's a backlash against them.

It was a backlash because they were hungry and desperate.

And somebody gave them a reason to say, yeah, get them so I can have mine.

Now,

I'm going to take a break because I just want you to

realize what I'm saying here,

that it is not just the Nazis.

It's the doctors.

The doctors had this ideology starting way, way back

and science was unleashed

and promoted by a corrupt ideology.

They both had many of the same goals.

The Nazis just took it further than maybe some,

some

doctors may have wanted.

It's the collusion of government, pharmaceutical companies, the world of science and medicine that brought us the Holocaust.

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Okay, let me give you a couple of things here.

First of all, and I've shown this before, but I've never really talked about exactly in detail what this is.

This is the last prescription that

Mengele

wrote,

and we did extra research on it because I wanted to make sure we were right because we're taking this out on tour and I want to make sure every word is absolutely right.

It's not the last one he wrote at the German Children's Hospital when he was there.

This was

written, geez, I don't have my glasses.

This was

written for the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.

They were the ones that were furthering all of this way before Hitler.

The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, they were killing people in this institute.

He wrote this

for the Institute.

It is for

1,000 liters.

of

luminol.

That's a poison that you put in a small little syringe.

It's a sleeping medicine.

And it makes the kids go night-night forever.

1,000 liters.

That's a lot of children to kill, isn't it?

And it went to the hospital.

Now, if you're a doctor or a nurse, you'd know what you're putting in.

I contend there were many reasons why people got involved in this, but flawed science

was the key to the doctors.

The idea of superior people and people who aren't quite up to the standards.

How many times did you hear from doctors here in America during COVID, Should we even have to treat them if they refuse to take the

COVID vaccine?

How many times did you hear that?

Once was too many.

How many times did you hear that?

How many times did you hear people dance around it, but they were discussing it?

How many times did you hear people in my position go, yeah, we shouldn't treat them?

I mean, they're making their choice.

You know, they're just killers of grandma.

This stuff spirals out of control quickly.

If you're a doctor,

make sure you know who you're standing next to.

Make sure you know what is true.

First, do no harm.

By the way, the source, it's sketchy for some.

It's just the United States Holocaust Museum

and Memorial.

So,

if you find the Holocaust Museum to be an iffy source, which I'm sure there are some,

then you'd have to dismiss this.

Otherwise,

I guess that's true.

I'm going to stick with the Holocaust Museum's facts, not facts from Media Matters.

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I want to talk to you about mis and disinformation.

Misinformation is known to be misinformation.

The people who are doing it have,

they know what they're doing.

They know what the truth is and they know how they're selectively spinning it to give you misinformation or disinformation.

When you look at our society, we're really only suffering from a couple of things.

And the main thing we're suffering from is

we don't remember our own origin story.

We're like in Empire Strikes Pack,

and you have no idea how you got there.

No idea.

Okay.

Why is this even worth fighting for?

We don't know what we're even fighting for, most people.

And the origin story is constantly being changed on us.

Let me give you an example of this from the same people that are, what I was trying to point out last week with the Nazis is, if you believe never again,

then you must look at the origin story.

You have to see what seeds were planted.

We know that civil unrest is coming.

We know that a call for somebody to get everything under control is coming.

We know that hard times where people won't be eating are coming.

Well, those are many of the things that brought the Nazis to power, okay?

But there was another thing that they both happen to agree on from science,

medical community, and the Nazis, and that is eugenics.

And how do you get to the ovens of Hitler?

Well, you get there through science and

doctors.

That's how you get there.

That's how it happened.

So we have to look at the origin story to see is that origin story showing any signs here?

And the left knows this because they look at the origin story, and that's why everybody on the right is considered a Nazi.

He's a Nazi.

Because that's what Hitler did.

Okay.

It doesn't mean that that's the way it's going to end out.

It means you should look at it and be concerned.

Okay.

Watch for the signs.

They're changing another origin story and

they just can't get away with it.

It's the New York Times.

There was an article in the New York Times today about...

What?

Where did all of this trouble come from with transgender people?

Yeah, the title is How a Campaign Against Transgender Rights Mobilized Conservatives.

Defeated on same-sex marriage, the religious right went searching for an issue that would re-energize supporters and donors.

The campaign that followed has stunned political leaders across the spectrum.

Now,

if you looked up the dictionary definition of gaslighting, it would give you this article.

It is legitimately reversing completely what happened and saying that transgender,

everyone was just f there was nothing going on with transgender people at all.

That was totally fine.

Everything was going wrong.

Everyone was completely accepted.

And then conservatives were desperate for a political issue.

So they started looking for transgender people doing things.

Now,

first of all, even if that were to be true, the transgender people would have to be doing things, right?

Did we convince drag queen story hours to start?

Did we go recruit people to dress up in thongs and jiggle in front of children?

Was that our doing?

Did we say, you know what we'd like you to do today, boy?

Go play and go swim against all the girls in women's sports.

Did we do that?

I don't remember doing it, but apparently, according to the New York Times, we were responsible for starting this.

What happened?

is the opposite.

All of the sudden, people, we were supposed to nowhere seemingly for most of the country.

Yeah, exactly.

Not teachers' unions and maybe even the press, but for most of the country, out of the blue.

Out of the blue.

All of a sudden, teenage boys were defeating teenage girls in swimming events.

All of a sudden, we were told to just accept the fact that our teenage children embrace it and go even farther.

that our teenage daughters were now going to get changed in the locker room with naked males.

At first, we were told that's a conspiracy theory

that the Republicans are just making up because they're so desperate.

Right.

And when all of this started happening, and suddenly, instead of all of us uniting with 100%

of all people left and right saying, of course, we're not going to let a 16-year-old boy get dressed in the same locker room as a 16-year-old girl, even though that was accepted for

thousands of years, all of the sudden we were supposed to accept the exact opposite behavior.

All of a sudden, it was obvious that it was hateful if you didn't want that to occur.

And what we're told from the New York Times is the reason for that is conservatives were looking for an issue.

We just, we ran out of the gay marriage talk.

So we were like, I don't know, maybe we should think about opposing women and boys and girls getting dressed together in the same locker room or competing against each other or having drag queen story hours.

Let's come up with a mythical thing that's definitely not occurring.

We'll have to recruit people to participate in it, I guess.

But since it's not a real thing, let's get mad about it and create it from scratch.

That is literally what this article is describing.

Yes.

And

let me give you how incredibly deep and well-researched this is when I go to the first

expert quoted into why this theory is correct

Ari Drennan the LGBTQ program director for media matters

literally the first expert they found is a person who works at media matters

It's a strange world to live in, said Ari Drennan, the LGBTQ program director for Media Matters, a liberal media monitoring group that tracks the legislation.

As a transgendered woman, she said she feels unwelcome in whole swaths of the country where states have attacked her right just to exist in public.

No.

Have you ever,

has there ever been

any conservative law that says, you know what you can't do?

Exist in public.

What the hell have I missed?

Jiggling in front of children in thongs is not existing in public.

I'm sorry.

Getting changed in the same locker room as a 14-year-old girl if you're a boy is not existing in public.

This is

infuriating.

It is.

And again, the gaslighting thing is supposed to make you feel nuts, right?

That is the point here.

And I do, because this is the exact opposite of how this occurred.

They are telling this is not me saying this.

This is the New York Times who's coming out here in a freaking news article,

not a commentary, not an op-ed,

a news article telling us this is how this story occurred.

It would make you feel insane if they didn't do it all the time and their tactics were so obvious.

Which brings me, by the way, back to your little Nazi rant from last half hour, which the same crap heap of a group group that everyone has known is a crap heap, Media Matters, and yet for a long time.

Still continue to use and hold up.

Can you imagine them me like going to like the proud boys as an example of an expert on a topic?

They would not do this.

And they do it with Media Matters all the time.

And they act not even, this isn't even commentary on like, okay, we're Media Matters and this is what liberals think about news coverage.

No, we're just going to go to Media Matters employees who are obviously biased or they would not be working at this crap heap of an organization.

And they're going to go to them as experts.

And then this weekend, apparently you're trending about this Nazi situation, which is just a fascinating example of how stupid our society is, right?

Like

what you said, I think, in the quote that they pulled out of context of a conversation where you were talking about the origin story, the prequel, if you will, of the Holocaust.

How it all starts.

How did it all start?

How did this all start?

And you're talking about the problems that if, and you're not even

accusing this of happening right now, but you're saying, watch the warning signs.

When governments and science work too closely together, sometimes it gets out of control and can lead to bad things.

And you talked about the doctors and how they started at the beginning, at the beginning,

with killing people who were undesirable.

At the beginning, children.

It was children's lives.

It was quote, and don't say compassionate.

It's quote unquote compassionate because that's what they said they were doing.

And you were talking about that.

And you said,

I may butcher the quote slightly, but you said basically, you know,

it wasn't Nazis killing Jews.

It was the doctors who were doing it.

It was the Nazi.

It was the doctors who were Nazis.

Who were Nazis?

You even said that.

Just makes this even more infuriating.

So the beginning of this whole situation, you were talking about the beginning.

But in that one little clip that they pulled out of context, you didn't say at first.

You didn't say it was the doctors at first.

It wasn't Nazis at first who were doing it.

It was the doctors.

Now,

literally anyone who listened listened to this monologue would know you were talking about the origin of the Nazi movement.

But

even if I wasn't,

even if I wasn't talking about that, all of the doctors were Nazis in the end.

They were turning the non-Nazis in.

Nazis had to go, non-Nazi doctors.

They existed, but they certainly weren't standing up en masse because they would be the next with the syringe in their their arms.

Right, of course.

They knew that.

And you didn't accuse all doctors.

As you pointed out, 11% of them were Jewish.

They weren't all doing

at the beginning.

There were none at the end.

So the point, though, I'm making is they take this part out of context where you make this point and you don't say at first.

And then they put it on the internet and a bunch of people, some people who even seem to like you, like are actually friendly, don't even bother to do the research or even listen to the entire context.

And they say, gosh, I can't believe this.

Glenn Beck is saying Nazis didn't kill any Jews.

Now, what human being on earth believes that Nazis didn't kill any Jews?

It was only doctors that were Nazis, but it wasn't Nazis, which again doesn't make any sense because you even qualified it in the moment.

But if you take it out of context, and I'm now losing my voice.

If you take, even

if I could have you, I could give you, I could give you somebody who doesn't believe that's true.

You disprove this.

The grand Mufti Mufti of

Iran,

the guy, the Holocaust denier.

Holocaust denier.

Okay.

Holocaust denier.

Now, I don't know his exact views on the Holocaust.

Okay.

But I will tell you this:

even Holocaust deniers know that Nazis killed Jews.

If you look at them, what they will normally say is, They didn't kill six million Jews.

It was actually only 50,000 or 6,000.

But even they will admit,

even they will admit that Nazis killed Jews.

Everyone Everyone on earth knows that Nazis killed Jews.

According to Media Matters, but they put it out there and they didn't even say it.

They just put it out there as if you're just supposed to understand that Glenn Beck thinks that Nazis, it wasn't Nazis, it was doctors.

And look at that.

We've caught him, even though he didn't catch him.

This is something every single person,

Media Matters, every single person involved in pulling that clip.

knows exactly what they were doing.

They all know

they are lying.

and they do it every day for a living and through donations from people like George Soros.

Not well and also exactly George Soros, but also people like George Soros, people who just want to try to sink conservative media figures.

I mean, I'm going to keep, I could keep going on this, but I literally am losing my voice.

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I'm losing my voice.

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Is the story of the leaker bothering you at all, Stu?

Yeah, I feel a little.

I feel like everyone's running to their corners and you don't really know yet.

We don't know yet.

I feel like there's a lot more to learn about the story before we know what the real truth of it is.

So remember, Vinman did exactly the same thing, except he was protected as a whistleblower.

Now, this guy isn't saying he's trying to stop Trump, and so that might be the thing.

Right.

But, you know, so far,

when I grew up, we were in the Cold War.

And in the 1980s, I mean, they would arrest FBI, SWAT team would come in, and they would arrest some guy, and he was a Russian spy for all these years, and he was selling Navy secrets.

That kind of stuff, I understood.

This, I don't understand, because this kid doesn't look like he was trying to cause harm.

It looks almost as if he's trying to be the cool kid in the geek squad,

or

he

really thought, hey, you guys should know this stuff, and he trusted nobody to let it out, which was ridiculous.

Although it worked for months and months and months and months.

Apparently.

Months and months.

And we are so quick to

put this kid in jail.

But those with political motives did not go to jail.

It's weird.

Yeah, I'm just,

I'm a little weirded out by the inconsistency.

One, I'm not surprised by it.

But also the rush to grab even more power to monitor everything on the internet because

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That seems a little like the Patriot Act.

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I want to talk to you about this this leaker of these Pentagon papers.

And

everybody is so quick to jump on how evil this guy is.

And I mean, look, it looks to me like he made really bad decisions,

but he doesn't seem to be an operative for another country.

Not that that makes it any

less bad for the United States,

but

what was his motive?

Who is this kid?

Was he an agent?

How do they recruit agents like this?

Because I'm sure that they have all kinds of ways that they

find agents online.

How do they find these people if he was an agent?

And what did it tell us, all of these leaks, about China?

I firmly believe that before the next

presidential election or next president is in office, we'll have a war on our hands.

And I think it'll be with China because only because if I were China, I would say

this Pentagon, this president,

we should do, we should grab Taiwan while we can because it'll be easy.

Don't know if there's anything to that other than just my gut, but that's what I would do if I were China.

What did we learn about that?

Anything?

We talked to Josh Rogan.

He is the author of a great book called Chaos Under Heaven.

We've had him on several times before.

We're going to talk to him about some of the things we learned about China and so much more.

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How are you?

Great.

Great to be back.

Thank you.

We were just talking about

this particular

leaker.

He's not a whistleblower,

but I don't think he was trying to hurt the United States.

I'm not talking about punishment or anything else.

I'm just trying to figure him out.

Do you have any insight on that?

Any thoughts?

Right.

I mean, listen, as someone who has been on the receiving end of leaks for 20 years, there's basically four motivations.

One is that you're trying to

vanquish your enemy.

One is that you're trying to promote yourself.

One is that you're doing it for giggles.

And one of it is that you're doing it for money.

And it seems based on all the available evidence that he was doing it for his ego, for giggles.

That essentially he's a moron.

Okay.

And it's a sad story because he's twenty one years old.

Right.

He threw his life away to be a big shot on a Discord server for a few months.

And that's a personal tragedy for him and his family.

But I think the point here is that because morons are likely to do moronic things, maybe we shouldn't give access to our top secret information to hundreds of thousands of people who inevitably some will be morons.

And so you could blame the moron, sure, but you should also blame the system that let the moron access all.

Correct.

And

all we hear from the administration is, oh, well, nothing went wrong.

Well, nothing went wrong.

If nobody takes accountability, then nothing will get fixed.

And

you can't just say that nobody made any mistakes, but that's exactly what this administration does.

But how

Then even if somebody didn't make a mistake, I mean, I know they put new traffic lights in all the time here in Texas.

You'll be driving down the street and there's no traffic light and all of a sudden there's a traffic light.

Why?

Because a lot of people started making mistakes and there were traffic accidents.

So nobody made a mistake not putting a light in there in the first place.

But once it's exposed as a problem,

you change it and put a light in.

Nobody did anything wrong.

Well, how about the policies?

Because it seems like

if he was allowed to do this, he shouldn't be.

Right.

And you can be sure that now the Massachusetts Air National Guard is going to get cut off from some of this stuff.

But to be honest with you, Glenn, I've been, again, 20 years of dealing with this kind of

information leakage.

I'm here to tell you this happens all the time.

You go into any office in the Pentagon, you go to any K-Street lobby, you'll find classical, you go into Joe Biden's garage, you go into the a Mar-a-Lago Party storage room, you're going to find a lot of secrets just laying around.

It's just true, okay?

And I'm actually surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen every month because of how horribly the handling of this top secret information is done all over our government.

Now, that's not to say that there isn't also a parallel problem here of overclassification, right?

Yes.

We're classifying way too much stuff.

But then the stuff that's really important to classify, we're not keeping it a secret.

So you can have two thoughts in your head.

One is that we need to classify less stuff and then take the stuff that's really classified and protected better.

But we're doing neither of those.

So

I haven't really heard from anybody that doesn't have an axe to grind one way or another.

Just talk about what he released.

Right.

Who did this really hurt?

What did we really find out?

Right.

So I put the disclosures into three buckets.

One is stuff we shouldn't know.

One is stuff we should have known about.

And one is stuff that we already knew about.

I'll explain what I mean.

Stuff we shouldn't know.

When we're spying on top Russian leaders, when we have a mole at the top level of the government of our enemy, that should stay secret.

Because once you blurt that out into the world, that guy gets killed.

We lose our source and our country's security suffers.

Let me make it very simple for everybody.

The first rule here, stuff we shouldn't know.

That's the knock list that Tom Cruise protected in Mission Impossible number one.

Hussein.

Right.

All right.

Right.

So that's bad.

He should not have released that stuff.

Then there's the stuff that we should have known about.

This is what I reported on, Glenn, that China has tested a new hypersonic missile that can defeat our aircraft carriers and our missile defense.

In other words, we spent 30 years building aircraft carriers and missile defense, and the Chinese built a missile for 100 thousandth of the price that makes those things obsolete.

That seems kind of important for people to know.

Why were we hiding that?

That was in the documents.

I brought that out.

I think there's a lot of stuff in the documents that American people should know because it reveals that the world is changing fast and our government really isn't on top of it.

And they need to be.

It does make a difference because usually I would say, hey, we don't need

to release everything that they have knowing what they have.

But I think there is,

you hit it on the head.

There is a need for the American people to understand the world is about to dramatically change and the United States is sitting around with its hands in its pockets.

Right.

So maybe we shouldn't shouldn't build more aircraft carriers and maybe we should build the stuff that fights hypersonic missiles.

Yes.

Because that's what our enemies are shooting at us.

Okay.

Correct.

So that's one big thing.

The third thing is stuff we already knew.

Now this is like, you know, again, Glenn, we we should have learned after like five years of like Russia gave that like the intelligence officials, when they're predicting the future, they don't really know what the hell they're talking about any more than you or me, right?

And they're but they have to do it.

They have to file these analyst reports every day.

And then one of them leaks to Congress like, oh my god, we figured out the future.

But nobody knows the future, so we know that they're full of crap, right?

So it's sort of like, okay, well, what do they do?

They end up saying, the Ukraine war is grinding to our stalemate.

Yeah, no, no, yeah.

I got it.

I got it.

I know where you're going.

Or, or, oh, China has, China has enough missiles and planes to bury Taiwan under a pile of rubble before they can do it.

That was today's story.

Taiwan can't defend itself from China.

Guess what?

That's true.

It's obvious.

Everyone in China knows it.

Everyone in Taiwan knows it.

So the fact that it got leaked from a document by a bunch of analysts who are probably reading the paper doesn't really bother me.

So that's the third.

It's like stuff that everybody knows.

And I think there is something that, you know, I have no access to secret information, but I think it fits into this category.

We have no real ability to fight a war with China, especially in Taiwan.

We have no ability.

We don't have the supply chain.

I mean, they could overwhelm us with drones from China, just

knock us out of the sky with drones like crazy.

We're not prepared.

So all this talk about a buildup of war with China should be really concerning to the American people when you learn they have missiles like they have, hypersonic missiles, and we're not prepared just in a supply line for anything that happens in Taiwan.

But nobody's talking about it.

Well, Glenn,

I 100% agree with you because I was in Taiwan in November and I went to the front lines of the defenses and I found something that shocked me that the front lines aren't really there, that it doesn't exist.

The Taiwanese know that they can't defend from an invasion.

And guess what?

Our intelligence community knows that we can't defend from a Chinese invasion.

And yeah, we're telling ourselves a story in Washington about some sort of fight over Taiwan that doesn't match the reality.

Now, there's two things you could do about that.

One is you could just admit it and say, okay, well, Taiwan, you guys are on your own.

I guess we'll just give all of our semiconductors

to the Chinese and see how that goes.

Or you could fix it.

In other words, you could give them the stuff that they need to defend themselves and move our stuff closer to Taiwan to make our deterrence more credible.

Now, again, those are two legitimate arguments, but what we're doing is the worst of both worlds because we're pretending that we can defend Taiwan when we actually know that we can't.

And they know we can't.

They know we can't.

We know it.

And the Chinese know it, right?

So they're not deterred.

And this is the problem that we made with Putin: we told ourselves that Putin was deterred, and he wasn't.

And we know he wasn't because he had made it.

So, what are we going to wait until that happens again, or are we going to learn that lesson and decide that if we care about these countries and if we're going to make a commitment to defend them?

And again, you may say, okay, well, we shouldn't commit that.

If we can't back it up, fine.

All I'm saying is if we do commit it, then we should back it up.

Absolutely.

Yes, absolutely.

We can't bluff our way through and then fold.

We have to back it up, but we're not preparing for any of that.

And how far do these missiles fly?

And they're hypersonic, which I've just heard last week or the week before that we now have one, but I don't know if I believe that.

This is a hypersonic, which makes it almost impossible to take down, right?

Right.

It's hypersonic, which means it flies faster than sound, but it's also a hypersonic glide, which means you can maneuver it.

So when we shoot up the missile defense, all we have have to do is maneuver around it.

And

they can also maneuver it to hit our aircraft carriers, basically as far as Guam.

Half the Pacific is now, you know, no entry for our aircraft carriers if they decide to use these things.

That's a huge problem for Taiwan, but not just for Taiwan, for the entire South China Sea.

They're basically taking over.

Asia while we're sleeping.

And now I'm not saying that we should buy hypersonic missiles to fight hypersonic missiles.

I'm saying that we should buy the things or build the things that defend against hypersonic missiles.

And so it's complicated and you have to think ahead of your opponent.

But right now they're thinking ahead of us.

And the scenario is that if China,

I heard you talk about the timeline, right?

The timeline for me is they'll go when they're ready.

They're not ready.

That's why I don't think they can go this year or next year.

Sure, they'd rather do it on a Biden watch than on a Republican watch, but they're not ready yet.

So

if you think about it, they'll probably get ready in about three or four years.

That's the best guess.

And we don't know who's going to be president then, but that's our timeline to prepare.

Oh, that would be a dream come true if that's true.

And, you know, my sources tell me that they don't have the landing vehicles to be able to do an invasion like that.

They could clearly wipe everything out

and defeat us, but they don't have all of the things they would need to really take that island.

Is that

yes, that's right.

But there's three things that the Chinese are doing.

One is to prepare the invasion force, which will take three or four years.

The second is to prepare economic resiliency.

They saw the Putin sanctions and said, not for us.

Why do you think they're going around the world

changing all of their business agreements out of U.S.

dollars?

That's because when they attack, they don't want to be sanctioned.

So they're actively trying to protect themselves from sanctions.

That's number two.

Number three is they're building a thousand new nuclear weapons.

Why are they doing that?

Why are they building 400 missile silos in the middle of China and then a thousand nuclear warheads?

There's only one reason.

It's to threaten to attack us if we defend Taiwan.

They're building a nuclear deterrent, an economic resilience, and an invasion force.

And all those things coalesce around 2027.

And we don't know who's going to be president here.

We don't know who's going to be president in Taiwan, but we do know who's going to be president in China.

That's the president for life, Xi Jinping.

And he wants to do this, and he's going to do this one way or the other.

In other words, he might not even attack.

If he can get us to not care and get the Taiwanese to switch governments to a pro-China government, then he'll do it without attacking.

And he'll just politically and economically.

That's actually better for him.

But he reserves the right to attack.

So we have to prepare for that, but not only focus on the military part.

We have to focus on the economic coercion, the political interference, the cyber warfare.

This is how the autocrats wage war.

You know, it's not just guns and missiles and throwing recruits at the problem.

They're waging a multi-front hybrid warfare, and we're not sophisticated enough to deal with that, but we need to be.

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I've got a couple of more questions for you.

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So, Josh, one more question on this China thing.

And this is a really, this is probably crazy.

But if I were president, or somebody in, somebody in the planning room, if there is one anymore, that it would be saying, okay, we've got to do everything we can to get some very high-tech, the best of the best

chip factories here in America.

We've got to do everything we can to attract so we can get that high-end chip making ability happening here in America as quickly as we can.

And then honestly, the only thing I would do if they took Taiwan is, I hate to say this, but I would blow up those chip factories because that's really what they want.

Right, right.

Okay.

So I, you know, Glenn, I can't lie to your audience.

I have to be honest.

I just can't help it.

We, we just took our best chance to build the next generation of semiconductor factories in the United States and we flush flush it down the toilet.

You've heard of this chips bill.

It was the first time Congress ever did anything in a bunch of years.

And what they did is they spent $50 billion to subsidize the semiconductor industry to build not the latest chips, to build basically the second-tier chips.

We've got enough of those.

We can make those.

We can make those.

I mean, we need those too, but you know,

it doesn't really get at that problem.

Now, I saw Tsai Ying-wen, the president of Taiwan, when she was in town, and they asked her, okay, well, you guys make the best chips.

Can we make them here?

And she she said, listen, it's not possible because we spent 40 years setting up the supply line in the factories.

And you can't just pick up all of that stuff and just move it across the world.

It doesn't work that way.

And we just tried to make this big investment and we didn't do it.

It was a big payoff to these industries who, by the way, are taking separate money and going to build chip factories in China because they look to do business in China too.

So it's kind of a taxpayer subsidy that's being funneled out of the country.

But that's a separate issue.

What I'm trying to say, to answer your question directly, is that, you know, if China takes Taiwan with those chip factories, then they will control the world economy for the next, let's say, 20 years.

Now, if they blow up the chip factories, then we're all screwed.

Then

forget about your next generation robotics, your cars, everything.

That's not really a good solution.

But yes, I do think that if the attack is coming, that will be the choice.

And to be honest with you, it's up to the Taiwanese.

And the Taiwanese, I talk to, would rather not blow up their economy.

And And they would actually rather be subjugated to Beijing than to have no economy at all.

And that's the, again, a reality that we don't like to talk about in Washington because we like to tell ourselves everything.

Everything's not fine.

The only real way to save our economy and to not starve

our businesses of the next generation technology is to prevent China from attacking Taiwan.

And the only way to do that is by upping the deterrence.

And that's why we have to be serious about defending Taiwan, not just about talking about it.

That's my view.

You may disagree.

That's my view, okay?

Because all the alternatives are disastrous.

We don't want China in control of Taiwan.

That's a disaster for our economy, for our core interests.

And if we blow up the economy, well, that's kind of a nightmare scenario as well.

So why don't we just do what we say we're doing, which is to be on Taiwan's side to defend them from getting attacked for no reason.

You know, because that's...

Wait, I don't think I understand.

Wait, you mean like let your yes be yes and your no be no?

Do what you say and say what you mean and mean what you say.

Wow.

That would be a revolution in American politics if I lived in 25 years.

I don't know about you, but why don't we try it just for once?

I know, but the other is working so well, Josh.

It's working so well.

It's just crazy.

Josh, thank you so much.

I appreciate all your analysis and your hard work.

Josh Rogan, the name of his book is Chaos Under Heaven, and it talks all about China and what we're really facing.

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I was just having a conversation with...

Open AI

and I was asking it to explain time in its realm, time in parentheses, because AI won't experience time like we understand time.

But in 24 hours, it can accomplish so much more

than an average human could accomplish.

The updates and the things that ChatGPT are developing now

are...

uh doubling in every 48 hours so its capacity or it's

I don't even know how to explain it because it's not necessarily growing on itself,

but it is growing in power, scope, and intelligence at an alarming rate.

If you want to put this genie back in the bottle, which by the way, no matter what anybody says, you can't do that.

It won't happen because there will always be somebody that

takes this and makes a bot, and there's going to be people making bad bad things.

So I asked it,

you know, define human time compared to

your quote-unquote time and processing capabilities.

He said, as an AI language model, I don't experience time in the same way that humans do.

I don't have feeling or consciousness, so I don't think or experience time at all.

My processing speed and ability to generate responses are based on the computational resources available to me, which can be scaled up or down depending on the specific implementation.

This is where AI gets really spooky as well.

Once AI has a dictate that it must survive or it must grow or whatever it is, must save humanity, it will start dictating its own

computational speeds and it will just start absorbing.

This is this is again science fiction, but it's about to be science fact, I believe.

It will just start absorbing full server farms, and it will just increase its computational speed and start to regulate its own energy and cut other people off from energy.

A rough comparison between human time and my processing capabilities, we can consider the concept of thinking speed.

One way to think about this is to compare the amount of information I can process in a short amount of time to what humans might process in a longer period.

For example, it takes humans 24 hours, let's say, to read and comprehend a thousand pages of text.

I might be able to process this same amount of information in just a fraction of a second, depending on the available computing resources.

Now, why this matters is because

as it grows and as it grows closer to AGI, artificial general intelligence.

That's a being like us.

We're good at multiple things.

As it gets to AGI, you can give it a problem

and then go to bed.

And it is weeks or months in computer time.

In your time, you went to bed eight hours ago.

You're coming back to the computer.

But it has been working to try to solve that all night at such speeds that it would take months, if not years, for you or a whole team of people to do that work.

So it is constantly

churning.

That puts you in a time to where

wars will be fought with algorithms, and they'll be fought in seconds.

If you had an algorithm that said, cripple the United States,

it would either spit out how a step-by-step on how you can do it, or if you give it the space online, it will just do it.

It will just create all of the things it needs to cripple the United States or cripple China.

And it will happen so fast, somebody in China could come up with an idea today and tomorrow we would be crippled.

This is why people are now saying we've got to pause this, but I don't know how to pause it.

And maybe they're just saying don't give it access, full access to the internet.

Now it still has access to, I don't know exactly how this works.

We should have an AI expert on.

Not sure how the access to the internet, because it's online, but I don't think it's engine.

I don't know how it works exactly, but

they're saying keep it off of

its own portal to the internet.

Yeah, it's interesting the way it learns.

Like, for example, ChatGPT, if you ask it, you know, what were last night's basketball scores?

It can't answer that because

its learning basis only goes up to 2021,

which is interesting because, you know, people are going to be asking questions.

Like, if you were to ask questions about like, I don't know, masks or like the origins of COVID, right?

But it learning only goes up to 2021.

It's going to answer probably, you know, something about how

there's so much we've learned in 2022 and 2023 already that are kind of important.

Now, maybe there are some exceptions to that, but it is a fascinating thing.

You won't know all the time where that line is or how much it's learned.

Certainly, it could learn all the way up till today.

I mean, but you don't even, I mean, if you have nefarious thoughts, you don't need it to learn up to today.

You know, but you do.

The average person does need to learn

about chat GPT or the internet, most people, or the artificial intelligence and the internet.

Most people

would really struggle, much more so than me.

And I'm pretty well read on this stuff, but I'm not a scientist or anything else.

So I just have basic understandings.

You know, don't touch the stove.

It's hot.

I know that kind of stuff.

I know don't let it have full access to the internet

because that's when it can be everywhere.

It will just place itself in your refrigerator everywhere, and you'll never get rid of it.

I don't even know.

I know it is.

You described this earlier as like us trying to predict alien technology.

Like, we it is.

No, alien life.

Alien life.

We don't have any idea how it operates, how it works.

It's so true because I don't, I mean, when you talk about that sort of stuff, like, I don't even know, how could that even be possible?

But it's, it's so, it happens so fast, and we are so doubling every every 48 hours.

They have never seen any technology compound this quickly.

Doubling every 48 hours.

Remember when I said every day there will be something that comes out in the news that you'll be like, I can't believe we just did what?

Yeah.

It's possible to do.

You notice that's about once a week right now?

Yeah, it does feel that way.

About once a week.

It's going to be every day soon.

Soon.

We'll make 10 to 11 years of progress in the next six months

think of that 10

years of progress in the next six months

and then god only knows they don't know how to predict this and like i said to you earlier off air

For anybody who says they know what this is going to do,

they're mistaken.

This is

as close as you could come to alien life.

It knows all about humans, but it's not human.

It may wildly misinterpret something like, protect all humans.

You know, okay, well, protecting all humans may mean, or protect the planet may mean kill all the humans.

You know, we don't know how it's going to think.

It is like predicting, oh, well, the aliens come down.

They're going to think this.

We don't know that.

It's a whole different way of thinking.

We don't even know how it processes things.

We know the algorithms that we put up, but it's a neural net.

And so how it's coming to these decisions,

we don't even know.

How frightening is that?

We have created Frankenstein.

Someone back then, back, you know, when Mary Shelley wrote that, She wrote that she was inspired.

This is my belief.

I don't know if I could prove this out, but it's my belief that she wrote that at a time when electricity was just starting.

And in the early days of electricity,

they were hitting frogs with juice.

They were hitting, you know, hitting animals and like, look, and the frog would jump, but it was dead.

And she was thinking about that technology and can you bring life back?

So Frankenstein and the

argument back then is, well, that life doesn't have a soul.

If you could do that, it doesn't have a soul.

Well, that's what we're creating now.

Will artificial life, if we can get there, will it have a soul?

No.

Will people claim it's life?

Yes.

So is it life?

I don't know.

We haven't solved the Frankenstein question from the 1800s yet.

And we probably never will.

Yeah.

At least with some sort of unanimity.

It's interesting because, I mean, I've been reading,

I read a couple of these message message boards about ongoing scams.

I love reading

scams.

And you see, so many of them are repeated, right?

Like, you know, there's scams where people get sucked into romance scams.

They get texts to random numbers and they're like, oh, oh, we should talk.

And then they become friends with these people and then eventually

convince them to invest in cryptocurrency scams.

And like, there's all these things that happen.

And people are constantly victimized by these things.

And we know, I mean, the joke one is the Nigerian Prince, right?

And you're like, how are people still falling for this?

And they are still falling for even that one right now.

Imagine being able, instead of having a thousand people.

You don't have to imagine.

It's already there.

ChatGPT will make that bot today.

And like you said, without a thousand people, it's one bot and it's sending out.

And every time it's rejected, it learns.

Okay.

And so it gets better and better.

How to manipulate people, real people.

Real people.

Identity theft is going to go through the roof.

Through the roof.

And they believe, too, that there will be examples of a,

again, ChatGPT is going to have, if you go on their website, it's going to have blocks against this sort of stuff.

But people will use this exact technology.

And there's already a hundred different versions of it.

We only talk about ChatGPT and BARD, if anything else.

But there's 100 different versions of it.

One that is designed to do these bad things, they believe it will convince people, you need to go murder this person to save the country.

Right?

Like, you need to go.

How long ago did I say that would happen?

You've been talking about it for.

I said that very thing would happen.

That's crazy.

And it will.

You know, someone who, let's say you have an enemy,

right?

You target people, someone you think is vulnerable.

And this happens with real psychopaths that do this to regular people in real life now.

Imagine this times a thousand where, or a million, or an unlimited amount when it comes to chat GPT or one of these clones, where you could go and convince people, I have this enemy, you should, I want to ruin their life.

Find a real person who thinks they're talking to a real person, convince them to go do your bidding for you.

I'm going to give you an answer that I don't think anybody else will give you an answer on with this.

What do we do about this growing technology?

Do we ban it?

What do we do?

I'll give you an answer in just a minute.

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The Fed also says, now we're likely to see a recession this year.

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They're calling it mild.

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I'm inclined to take them at their word.

I mean, if

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Yeah,

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We were just talking about AI and we'll get into more of this tomorrow, but there is a great concern, as there should be, about what do we do about this because it's growing so rapidly and

it could get out of hand just by one person.

Everybody's talking about, well, should we regulate it?

Should we not regulate it?

You know, you can't regulate it because it's all around the world.

And what?

You're going to regulate it so the government can do it with its pals?

Well, that doesn't make it any better.

Thou shalt not have other gods before me.

We've talked a lot about worshiping other gods, but we are worshiping our technology now.

We're even in a prayerful stance.

When you see people

scrolling online, their head is bowed, like they're praying.

They're just their heads bowed.

That's the way we look all the time.

And there's an old Sufi saying,

that which you gaze upon, you will become.

That's universally true.

And look at us.

We're becoming more robotic.

The thing that we have to do, you want to prepare for eventualities, is stop being so reliant on all of these processes.

Start being more reliant on people, more engaged with people, less with the internet.

Use it as a tool, not the center.

If you ever catch yourself saying, oh, I couldn't live without this, get off of it.

Get off of it.

Because

this technology

could be the greatest blessing to mankind ever, could be the biggest curse ever.

Make sure that you are sustainable in your own life.

Make sure that you're not dependent on that because the world could change rapidly.

And my guess is it's going to rapidly.

So be a survivor.

Make sure you concentrate on self-control and regulation.