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I forgot about that.

Yeah, that's a good one to learn.

We learned don't search how to get rid of dead bodies.

We had Sarah search for us instead, but you don't want to miss a minute of today's show.

Really, really good stuff.

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You know sometimes

Sometimes you can have too much faith in people you can think they're just not this stupid but you're usually disappointed

The husband of the Massachusetts realtor You know have you been following this a little bit.

Okay, so

This guy, Brian Walsh, he was a guy who

was selling fake war hauls.

He was in trouble trouble with the law.

I think he was maybe under house arrest for a while.

And his wife got another job.

She had to move to Washington, D.C.

She came up for the holidays and

then she was called back to Washington and nobody's seen her since.

Now,

there is one thing.

Now,

they have

taken him in.

He's not been arrested for murder, but they took him in because he

misled the police.

He said, The only thing I did on the day of her disappearance was go out for ice cream with my kids.

Unfortunately for him,

he was spotted at Home Depot.

He was a noted ice cream purveyor.

Yes.

Home Depot.

Yes, yes.

He, you know, he was

going to Home Depot, and he showed up wearing a mask and a hat and gloves, and he bought $450 worth of cleaning supplies.

And what's weird about this, too, is he got lost apparently several times and then lost on his way to his mother's house because he didn't bring his cell phone.

So anyway,

he's always concerned about cleanliness.

Cleanliness.

We're in the middle of a raging triple demic right now.

Exactly right.

You've got to wear the gloves.

You've got to have the mask.

You've got to have the cleaning supplies.

Exactly right.

So he goes home and he's cleaning up something and he completely forgets.

Oh, I forgot I stopped for cleaning supplies.

Sure.

And so they brought him in for that

for misleading police.

But there is something else that he did that is kind of curious that you would think, no, no one would do, no one would do this.

The day before she disappeared, he Google searched how to dispose of a 115-pound human body.

100 now, specifically 100 pounds.

Yeah, 115 pounds.

Now, I think we should Google search this because I'd like to see.

I'm not Googling that.

Yeah, Sarah, you Google it real quick.

Really quick.

Sarah can Google it.

Google it.

Just Google it real quick and tell us what it says because I'm not Googling it either.

I'm pretty sure Sarah's search history goes directly to the feds as it is, so you might as well.

So tell us what it says here.

I mean, does it give,

does it say like, step one, go to Home Depot,

buy cleaning supplies.

Don't bring your cell phone.

What does it say?

Right away, the stories just turn up of the story you're talking about.

Oh,

yeah.

I'll change it to 120.

See if maybe that would help.

The weight is not necessarily specific.

How about just,

you know, dispose of a human body, how to dispose of a human body.

See if that.

Because I don't think the way it weight would just be like dig a bigger hole right right I put how to dispose of a hundred twenty pound body.

Yeah and scrap metal recycling comes up scrap metal recycling Yeah, safe handling and disposal of harmful products.

Okay, okay more recycling.

What is the most valuable thing to scrap?

But there's nothing on how to get rid of it.

Nothing to get rid of, but there is dead animal disposal.

Oh, there you go.

Ah, there you go.

dead animal disposal now we need to actually contact the fez and say we think something happened with our producer and a hundred and twenty pound person has disappeared we don't even know we don't know where they are we don't even know their name can you just check their computer yeah i just want to make sure her computer is and check for scrap right for scrap okay i think like you're you're you just go for like i mean there's a bunch of movies i can think of that's the only way i think if i was going to dispose of a is that the topic he wanted to get into How did it actually do it?

Because I think I would go, you've got Fargo.

You could go the Fargo.

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of movies that you can go, but you know, it might also show up on your Netflix history if you're watching all of these movies where they dispose of bodies.

You know, I'm just saying.

Which Netflix movies feature a disposal of 115-pound female bodies named Joan?

It was in their Netflix search.

Don't know.

I just like that genre.

That's all.

Yeah, that's it.

Wow, that's really sad, though.

Okay.

Well, it kind of makes me happy.

They're going to find out who did it.

Yeah, because justice should be served.

It wasn't really bright.

Oh,

this would be a good plot to a movie where you commit the murder, and then I go into your house, Glenn, and I say, hey.

What's your computer like?

And then I just go over and start searching terms that would lead them to you.

I mean, at some point that's really going to happen or here's what we do uh it's the old strangers on a train we just go out and ask somebody to murder somebody that we want to get rid of and we'll murder somebody that they want to get rid of so I search how to dispose of a 200 pound body but nobody in my life that runs 200 pounds has disappeared

Of course, somebody that runs 110 did disappear, but I could say, I didn't for that.

I was searching for 200 pound bodies, guys.

That would be

an interesting conversation.

And he'll search for 110 and the person missing in his life, 200.

200.

You're just trading the murders.

Yes, that's all we're doing.

Okay, let me give you something that I think is absolutely amazing.

It's an 11-year-old boy

named Jude Kofi,

and he was spotted from this local

television story on local news.

His dad is from,

where are they from?

Well, the story has it in.

They're from like the Sudan, I think.

They live in Colorado.

And this kid, he's autistic.

And he went down to the basement where there was an old piano.

He had never had any lessons or anything else.

And all all of a sudden, dad's hearing a piano playing downstairs.

And he's like, what the heck is he goes down and his kid is playing the piano?

No lessons.

No lessons.

Plays the piano.

You're going to hear in this clip him playing the piano.

No

lessons.

This is just him, this autistic kid, playing the piano.

Somebody sees it on TV.

If you've wondered, where are all the good people?

Listen to this.

To 11-year-old Jude Kofi of Aurora, Colorado, this surprise was music to his eyes.

Obviously, whoever said the best things come in small packages was never gifted a grand piano.

Jude's father, Isaiah.

So one day it just shows up at the house?

Yes, all for free.

Who does that?

The answer in a moment.

But first, the reason.

About a year and a half ago, Jude's dad heard a noise coming from the basement.

There was an old keyboard down there, but no one knew how to play it.

Certainly not his autistic son, Jude.

Or so he thought.

Isaiah then got Jude a larger keyboard to see what more he could do.

And boy, could he do.

The kid never had a lesson.

No one taught him any of this.

How do you explain that you're as good as you are?

It's a miracle.

You think it's a miracle?

That's what I prefer.

Bill Magnusson prefers that too.

Is he special?

He's beyond special.

His Mozart level is coming from somewhere beyond.

Bill is a piano tuner.

He saw a local news story about Jude, heard him play, learned how his parents immigrated from Ghana, how they're raising four children, and sending money back to Ghana.

What resources are left over to help this special little soul?

Yours.

Yeah.

Using an inheritance from his father, Bill bought the piano, spent $15,000.

He has promised to tune it once a month for the rest of his life.

Very nice.

And he's even paying for Jude to get professional lessons.

We're family now.

Somebody to just love your son like that by making sure that his future is secured?

We are super thankful.

Yeah.

Press the pedal.

Caring for other children as your own.

The defining note of humanity.

Isn't that amazing?

Isn't that amazing?

Really cool.

That is, I mean, I just think that is one of the greatest stories I've heard in a while.

Chill listen to the words to this.

It's one of my favorite bands out of California.

What if all they lost was all they had?

What if they were broken, just looking for a hand?

If you could help or walk away,

if that choice was up to you, what would you do?

What if it were you?

Where did it all?

Where did all the good people go?

Where did all?

Where did all the good people go?

I keep looking around.

I don't quite feel like I belong.

Where did

Where did all the good people go?

This group called Poor Man's Poison.

They

live in the farmlands of California.

I just love their music.

Very American sounding.

And their messages are really just great.

What if all you gave was all you had?

What if you were humble,

just holding out your hand?

What if kindness prevailed and you were someone's second chance just giving back?

That doesn't sound so bad.

We keep asking ourselves, at least I do, where are they?

Where are they?

They're everywhere.

They're everywhere.

We don't see them because

they don't generally make the news.

But all the good people, that's you, that's me.

The people who are looking for a second chance at life that have the ability to do something.

That guy was a tuner of pianos.

His father had just died.

He inherited money.

And he saw that story and he thought, this kid has got to have lessons in a piano.

So he takes his inheritance from his father, buys the piano, says that he's going to tune it every month for for the rest of his life,

and he's helping him get piano lessons.

I don't quite feel like I belong.

Where did it all go?

So, where did all the good people go?

Where did it all?

I just want to bring you the news today that the good people are here.

We're surrounded by them.

We're surrounded by people.

The problem is there's not enough examples that we see and we should start looking for them.

We should start sharing those stories.

And we should start recognizing that

We've been given the opportunity, whatever it is,

whatever it is.

I wouldn't have thought of get this kid a piano.

I'm not a piano tuner.

But he did because that's his gift.

You are the good people.

Where have you gone?

Nowhere.

Just maybe a quick reminder or two.

Wake up and see the ways that you can help all around you.

You're listening to the best of the Glen Beck program.

All right, I want to show you the guardians of history.

Things are so bad with our history right now.

Things are being taken down and things are being put up that are absolutely inaccurate.

The latest is the Wall of Remembrance, the Wall of Remembrance for the Korean War.

If you've been to Washington, D.C., it's a lot like the Vietnam Wall, but this is for the Korean War.

And this is really a cool memorial.

It has these soldiers, the statues of these soldiers going through

kind of like a Korean forest, if you will.

Well, they decided that they wanted to put a wall up with all the names.

$22 million

this cost us.

And I don't know, is it one or two decades to get this done?

When it was first proposed that, hey, we like the soldiers, let's put up a wall.

The Parks Department said, no, wall, no, wall, we don't want names.

We don't want it.

Why?

Because when the Vietnam

wall went up, there were names that were missing.

Some of them, somebody has to make the decision on who is actually a Vietnam War veteran.

For instance, one of the examples was a nurse.

She's flying over to go to Vietnam, but she's not engaged in Vietnam yet.

Her plane crashes in Europe.

Should her name go on the wall?

Some people would say, well, yeah, she was enlisted.

She was on her way.

Others would say, no, that wasn't combat.

That was in Europe.

And it had nothing to do with the military.

This must be an impossible task.

Impossible.

That's why the Parks Department said, we don't want anything to do with a wall.

We learned our lesson.

We've seen this movie before.

Correct.

Yeah.

Congress didn't care.

Congress said, no, no, this is great.

We're going to put them all.

The Parks Department said, okay, if you do that, we want it in the bill that it is the Pentagon that makes the list.

We have nothing to do with it.

Okay?

So they were so adamant about it that the Pentagon, it was written that the Pentagon is the one, and the Pentagon could not take any outside advice or counsel.

Okay, let's just think about this for a second.

The Pentagon has to look through 56,000 names that they said died in the Korean War, but there were only 36,000.

So they have it wrong in the first place.

They went with that one for about 20 years.

Then they were like, like, oh, whoops.

I guess there's some other people there that died that really weren't even there.

Had nothing to do with it.

They got it down to 36,000 names.

They couldn't take any outside of ICE, so they've got a couple of problems with the wall now.

In fact, about 1,500 problems.

There are people that were...

were there that were not listed, people that weren't there that are listed.

I like this one, Frederick Bald Eagle Bear.

He's an Army corporal who was killed as he rallied his infantry squad to fend off an enemy attack.

He's part of the Lakota tribe.

Well,

because the Pentagon's records were all on cards, you know, computer cards,

that I don't even know if you have the computer to use it anymore, and

could not use hyphenated names.

The guy who is called Frederick Bald Eagle Bear,

he's listed

as

Eagle BF Bald.

Not good.

Not good.

Eagle BF Bald.

Yeah, not good.

Also,

I might want to point out that there's some other people that,

you know, they have their name up there.

And they, well, one of the guys was killed in a motorcycle accident in Hawaii.

Another guy who drank antifreeze thinking it was alcohol.

And another guy who

lived for 60 years after the Korean War had eight grandchildren he didn't die in a war at all his name is up on a wall 22 million dollars they now say the whole thing has to be taken down no and redone wait they can't hmm they can't correct there's no way to correct put some putty in there what yeah whiteout uh yeah no it's uh it's not good the whole story is in my morning briefing you can get it at glennbeck.com it's an amazing story in its entirety

But this is our history is under attack from so many angles.

This one, just sheer incompetence.

You want to give the government the keys to truth and history?

Really?

Because they're not doing a really good job here.

Their own department, the Department of War, the Department of Defense, the ones that keep all the records.

They

don't.

Nope.

I have no idea who these people are.

Now, let me tell you a good step, but it's going to need your support.

Friday,

Bron DeSantis

began a process of transforming Sarasota's new college of Florida into a little more conservative.

Now, this is a progressive college.

It's been floundering for years, but it is a, it's the new college, like the new school in New York.

It's a progressive college that's been teaching garbage forever and struggling.

So, because it's a state school, the governor said, well, it's floundering.

We could shut it down or we could reform it.

You know what?

Let's reform it.

So he appointed six new board members.

And they're a little more conservative.

The dean at Hillsdale College is one of them.

A senior fellow at the Claremont Institute is another one.

And Christopher Ruffo

is also on the board of directors.

Christopher is going to be joining us in about an hour.

So Christopher Ruffo, who is he?

He's the activist that has been exposing everything that, all the poison that is in our schools.

They hate him.

They

hate him.

You have to hang hang on that H that long to describe how much they hate him.

They

hate him.

Okay, so here's what the Florida Education Commissioner said.

It's our hope that New College of Florida will become Florida's classical college, more along the lines of a Hillsdale of the South.

Oh, they

hate all of these people.

Turning New College into a Florida version of Hillsdale is flipping the entire thing upside down.

And DeSantis has just said, it is time to take

charge of our schools.

Our schools are completely out of control, and it is time to take them back.

A

men.

How many governors have the balls to do this?

I said this to you last week.

In Florida, there are signs that come up, and I think they may be coming from the administration.

I don't know, but it says the free state of Florida.

And when you listen to DeSantis talk, he talks about always the free state of Florida.

Amen.

That should be a goal for all of us.

Why are we not the free state of Texas?

We are

relatively much more free than places up north, but we're not the free state of Texas.

We should all be striving and pushing our governors and our legislatures to pass things that make us free men and women, unencumbered by this nonsense that is being jammed down everyone's throat.

So

here's what I want you to do.

I want you to read up on this.

You can find the story.

Just look for

Sarasota's New College.

You can get the story at Glennbach.com or just look for Sarasota's New College, Florida's New College, and support this in every way you can.

They are going to be coming

with switchblades and automatic guns.

They are going to be, it won't be a.22.

They'll be coming with...

proverbial.45 caliber weapons to this fight.

And it will have an endless, what do they call it, clip

of ammunition.

So we need to be prepared to stand up and

fight back.

But that is fight back the right way.

You know,

earlier I was reading to you the

Thomas Paine, American Crisis, and in it, He says, in fact, I want to read it to you exactly.

In it,

he says, I have as little superstition in me as any man living, but my secret opinion has ever been and still is that God Almighty will not give up a people to military destruction or to leave them unsupported to perish.

Here's the important part.

Who have so earnestly and so repeatedly sought to avoid the calamities of war by every decent method which wisdom could invent.

Neither have I so much the infidel in me as to suppose that he has relinquished the government of the world and given us up to the care of devils.

And as I do not, I cannot see on what grounds the king of Britain can look up to heaven and ask for help.

I cannot imagine how the progressive movement that is pushing the slaughter of innocents can look up and say, Lord, help us.

Knowing that, as Lincoln said, God is not on our side.

He doesn't pick sides.

He wants all of his children to be redeemed and rescued.

So they are in error, I believe.

But

God does not want them slaughtered.

God does not, he wants peace and love and understanding, and we must do everything we can to remain peaceful, kind, loving, doing all of the things that we can in our power.

And He will pick up the slack.

But if we don't, if we are conniving or anything else, He cannot bless us.

So,

do everything in your power and not one thing more.

The The best of the Glen Bank program.

Florida, Ron DeSantis announced on Friday, is taking back education.

And he is changing the Board of Regents for the new College of Florida, which is a progressive university that's been floundering in lies for a while.

Did I say that out loud?

And

so the Dean of Hillsdale is now part of the Board of Regents.

Christopher Ruffo is also a part of that.

You might know who Christopher Ruffo is.

He has been the guy who has relentlessly been exposing

DEI and

CRT and you name it.

He has been

the

linchpin and leading force against all of that.

He joins us now, Christopher Ruffo, a known Nazi supporter.

I'm sorry, with some more research, I and the Washington Post would like to retract that last statement as being utterly false.

Christopher, how are you?

I'm doing very well.

How are you?

Good.

I can't keep up with all the retractions.

You just got another one from the Washington Post, and who else, Du?

Jonathan Shade as well.

Yeah.

Chris, can you walk us through the litany?

Yeah, so this is something that just keeps happening.

And even in the last 48 hours, I've gotten a major retraction from the Washington Post.

They wrote this ridiculous hit piece against me about my appointment to the Board of Trustees at New College.

The editors admitted to me and then had to retract four false statements.

And there was only four paragraphs in the story that were about me.

So they were actually

one complete brazen lie per paragraph.

And then the following day, which was yesterday, I spent all day hounding Jonathan Chase from the New York magazine.

And he too ended up retracting a completely false statement.

He made up a quotation, attributed it to me, and then I said, well, where did I say this?

He couldn't prove it, had to retract it.

But here's the thing, Glenn.

Both of these publications have done the exact same thing twice.

Last year, the Washington Post had to retract multiple false statements about my reporting on critical race theory.

Also, last year, Jonathan Chase, the same author, made up a quotation that he attributed to me that was totally false, had to retract it.

I'm starting to think that these things aren't a coincidence.

What do you think, Black?

Well, don't go too far out on a limb on that.

You know, they know, the press knows, they can say anything and retract, and the retraction doesn't matter.

The charge is out there, and the print is out there, and it's online, and it will be forever online.

And that will be the part that is passed around about you.

I mean, we are dealing with really nefarious powers at work that know exactly how to smear and discredit people.

So let me go, let me take you to Florida here.

How did this unfold with New College?

And what exactly are you trying to do and the governor trying to do with education in Florida?

So New College is Florida's smallest public university.

It's on the beach actually in Sarasota, beautiful location.

But it's had struggles for years.

It's failed to meet recruitment targets.

It's at about half capacity.

They can't get students in.

They accept almost anyone, but very few students choose to enroll in the college.

They've had this kind of broken culture for a number of years in which even professors and staff members are kind of at odds with the students who are a very kind of left-wing progressive activist.

It's almost like Evergreen State out in Washington State that famously imploded a number of years ago.

And the Florida legislature in recent years has considered actually just abolishing the college, totally defunding it and transferring its assets elsewhere in the system.

But Governor DeSantis had a kind of bold and dramatic alternative.

He said, let's bring in a new board of direct a new board of directors.

Let's get some really smart people that have the kind of strength that's required to do a reform effort.

And let's turn it around 180 and transform New College, the spludgling, struggling public university, into what they're calling the Hillsdale of the South.

So a classical institution of learning, of higher education.

And that is our task.

It is a big vision.

It's not going to be easy, but I think all of us on the Board of Trustees are excited to make it happen and to show conservatives.

It's time to stop seeding territory.

Thank you.

It's time to actually start taking back territory.

Thank you.

And it starts here with New College.

I will tell you, Christopher, the biggest mistake we made was seeding the colleges and just saying, you know what, when they get out into the real world, no, they're out in the real world now and they've changed the real world into this fantasy gobbledygook that they got from these universities.

We have got to start taking them back.

I have two kids ready to go to college.

I don't know where to send them.

And I'm terrified of sending them anyplace.

One of them wants to be an actress.

Good Lord, I've done everything I can.

I prayed on my knees for days on end.

Please make that wish go away.

She's really good.

She wants to do it.

I can't send her into, you know, the lion's den.

We need to take back education.

Absolutely.

But I think that I'm maybe a bit more optimistic.

I think there are really two key strategies that people need to adopt.

First is you have to make your own kids as strong as possible so they can actually go into the lion's den.

You know, when my kids turn 18, I have three kids at home and

I want to feel confident that wherever they go, they're going to have their own principles, they're going to to have their integrity, they're going to have the strength and sophistication to navigate those environments.

But of course,

the kind of even maybe more important solution in the larger sense is for us to create alternatives in education.

And look, we need to create alternatives in K through 12.

We need charter schools.

We need universal school choice.

So vouchers so parents can start.

their own home schools or religious schools, whatever they want to do, matches their values.

And then higher education, you know, has been really kind of seeded to the left since the mid to late 1960s.

That's when everything turned.

And look, conservatives have not figured out how to do it.

I think that the problem, what I'm observing as I'm talking to people and navigating this new enterprise, is that the adults are scared of the kids.

Really and truly, they're scared of the students.

They're scared of the media.

They're scared of all the laptop people typing away

at the newer.

You got to get over that.

It's like you have to get over that.

And I think that what we want to demonstrate with this is that we have the strength, we have the courage, we have the backbone.

We're going to hang very tough.

We're going to make a better university.

It's going to be more competitive.

It's going to be more rigorous.

It's going to have higher quality academic offerings.

And I think that what we've seen with Hillsdale College, where I've been fortunate enough to teach a course recently, is that the American families are hungry for this kind of education.

They are.

They want that classical liberal arts education.

They want students to kind of fall in love with learning.

And they don't want to have this poisonous left-wing ideology and left-wing bureaucracy drenching everything in their way.

I don't want my kids to be taught what to think.

I want my kids to be taught how to think.

You know what I mean?

How to find the answers, how to question, how to reason.

That's what I want a university to do, and that's what they should be doing, pushing you in every different direction so you see that you know

you should question everything and know how to question and know how to prove something uh using critical thinking but that's not what we're getting from our universities um so how how how are you

because it's a very progressive school how are the professors and uh everybody else taking it at the school do you know are you going to just shut it down and then

rehire

You know,

the students, of course, are very rambunctious.

They're in a kind of agitated mode.

They're ready to protest and ready to make their voices heard.

I like that.

I think that's healthy.

I'm excited to engage with them as I go to visit the college in the coming weeks.

But, you know, what I've heard behind the scenes is that professors are chattering.

that this is actually a very good opportunity.

You know, a lot of people don't like what's happening in universities.

People who are in science and math departments that are more apolitical, people who are kind of in the political moderate section, they don't like what's happening just as much as we as the conservatives don't like what's happening.

But they're not strong enough to create a defense for themselves, so they just give up.

We're going to create that space for people.

And I've looked at the CVs for a lot of the faculty at New College.

I've done an analysis actually of all the full-time faculty.

There are some incredible scholars there, people who are substantive.

They have Ivy League University degrees.

They've written on the classics, Greek, Latin, history, political science, an incredible math department.

And so there is a very, very strong core of faculty and staff that are absolutely ready for this change.

I think they're going to, you know, once they kind of put down the New York Times and have a chance to talk to us, the new Board of Trustees in person.

I think they're going to be reassured that we're going to create a better university.

There are going to be hard changes.

We're going to restructure it.

We're going to bring in a totally new curriculum.

We're going to be abolishing the DEI programming immediately.

But after those changes, after that period of tumult and conflict,

I think it's going to be a great place.

And hopefully, when your kids are approaching 18, you'll consider sending them to new college.

So, Christopher,

I'm just sitting here listening to you and seeing the opportunity and the impact that you have made.

And it's kind of

fun to watch you

because when I first reached out to you, I reached out to you as the contributing editor of City Journal to talk to us about what was happening in Seattle.

And you were just at the beginning of all of this.

And

now look at the impact that you have made and the impact that you're going to make.

And this is just really the beginning.

How do you,

do you ever think about like, holy cow.

I mean, I took something on that should have been deadly.

Everybody probably told you, don't, don't do that.

And

look what's happened.

Yeah, it is.

You know, I appreciate that.

And it's been fun that we've been able to check in really since the beginning through this whole process.

And it's been really fun.

And I've learned a lot of lessons.

As you know, it's sometimes

challenging.

It's difficult.

But I love it.

I wake up every day excited about what I'm doing.

I wake up every day optimistic about the possibilities.

And then I've been able to do something that I didn't plan on, but has been really fruitful.

I've been able to connect my ideas, my policy work, my journalism, my activism with people like Governor Ron DeSantis who have said, hey, this is a good vision.

Let's let this guy loose

and see if we can actually use these ideas.

And so I'm really kind of blessed and fortunate and feel very lucky to have able to not just sit in a think tank

in New York City writing white papers, but actually say, hey, let's use these ideas.

We believe in them enough to actually do them.

And I think that's the key thing.

It's like, I believe in this enough where I actually want to do it.

I want to stake my own,

take a risk with my own time and reputation.

Because I think at the end of the day, we're fighting for something that

most people want,

but really most people feel there are few champions for.

And I'm trying to do that.

I'm trying to serve that purpose for people.

Christopher, I

I'm sure that we've asked you before, but I would love to do a

do at least an hour podcast with you because I think you are fascinating.

You are really somebody who is changing things.

You're not just talking about it.

You are actually changing things.

And I would like to discuss in greater detail what the what the challenges are ahead and also where you get the,

I feel good in the morning,

where you get the bright spots in education because there's a lot to move.

So

we'd love to have you on it as a podcast.

Thank you so much.

Let's do it.

Let's do it.

You got it.

Christopher Ruffo, contributing editor, City Journal, Senior Fellow of the Manhattan Institute, and now on the new Board of Regents for New College of Florida,

because Ron DeSantis is taking on education in a big way now in Florida.

What is my governor doing?

What are other governors doing?

It's a really good plan.

I mean,

you can steal it.

I mean, I'm sure he would give it to you.

You could just steal this plan and do it in your own state.

I'm just saying.

No, no, no, no.

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