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This is a really interesting conversation.

I can't wait to talk to you, Bayard.

Thanks so much for coming in, by the way.

Thanks for having me.

You flew in from San Francisco.

Last night.

Did they make you, do you you have to have a passport now to get into Texas?

No, no, it's still free flight.

Good.

That's good to hear.

You run American Giant.

This is a company we've talked about for a while here on the show, and we've

been really impressed.

I, as just a selfish person, just really like your hoodies.

So that's something totally separate from what you do.

But you run a company, and you...

You manufacture clothing.

And this used to be sort of a foundational part of America.

It was something that,

I don't know, it's how the country was built.

And more and more, as we go on, we hear all the time: you can't do it anymore.

It's impossible.

You can't have, you can't make your clothes and source everything in America and all those difficult steps.

You can't have Americans make the clothes, certainly, because it's impossible.

Yet you seem to do it.

First of all, how do you do it?

And secondly, why did you think that was important?

Yeah.

Well, you know, it's easy to forget now, but 40 years ago, about 95%, more than 95% 95% of the clothes that we bought were made in in in America which is hard to believe today because that those numbers almost flipped yeah and and in some ways as you're sort of mentioning it it that's the trajectory of manufacturing generally that we've we have deprioritized the making of things in the US over the last 40 years and and I've been involved in manufacturing consumer products for most of my career and if you spend enough time doing that and I too sort of participated in a lot of the offshoring stuff and you do it and and eventually I think two things begin to become really clear.

One is you get really disconnected from the product you make.

And that, I think, particularly for me, translated into

a lack of

proximity to it, stewardship about it, intimacy about the product that we were making.

And that was super important to me.

But just as importantly, you see

the factories and the towns that you're leaving.

And my point of view is that that's happened too much over the last 40 years, that there's a lot of communities, urban and rural, that need good, viable, dignified jobs.

And we've made a decision to shift too much of that stuff overseas.

And I felt we could do something about it in apparel.

It was a relatively easy thing to reshore and to make domestically.

And so I decided it's something I wanted to do.

I didn't know if it would be a big business or not, but I knew it was the kind of business that I wanted to run.

So I made that decision about 10 years ago and started the company.

It's interesting because I think Over the last couple of years, we have learned way too much about your business.

I don't want to know.

I don't want to know that much about your business.

I want other people to do that.

I've got enough to worry about in my life, but we've learned so much about supply chains.

Somewhat infamously, I bought a car in August 2021 that just showed up a few weeks ago, right?

It was over 14 months waiting for a car to show up.

I think one of the interesting parts about trying to manufacture something here in America is not just what might happen to your employees.

It goes down the line.

This sort of stuff affects people all over the country in all sorts of different lines of work.

When you step back, how do you think about that?

Well, what's interesting about what you just said is that I think as we've become disconnected from the people and the places that make things, you really do begin to take for granted

all the skill and talent and complexity that goes into the making of the things that we consume.

And

my feeling is that we have gotten to a place where we order something online, it arrives on our doorstep a couple of days later, and when that breaks, that highly complicated supply chain breaks, bad things happen.

And I think that there is the, to me, there is a real importance with reconnecting us back to how we make things and what goes into making a car or a sweatshirt for that matter.

They're complicated things.

And the symphony of activity that has to come together to make that happen is remarkable.

And to me, there's an importance of having a lot of that back and closer to consumers so they understand what goes into making those things and the position we've gotten ourselves in with this highly complicated, really fragile supply chain that's got us dependent on, you know, borders and tankers and oceans and

international relationships that all get pretty difficult when things don't go precisely as planned.

Yeah, you know, we were just talking about the Tubble Twins books a second ago, and they have one about iPencil, the famous economic essay.

And

it's basically the story of how a pencil gets made.

And it sounds like the most boring pencil.

Who cares?

But so many people have to be able to do so many things to make that happen.

The symphony is a really good word to describe it.

Yeah.

I mean, the pencil, the paint, the metal,

the wood, the graphite, all the things that are required to go into that, right?

And, you know, we've got a privilege as a company to be around that all the time.

And it does, I don't know, I just, there's something very satisfying about reconnecting with the fact that the American workforce and capability is alive and well.

We've just sort of abandoned it in a lot of ways by just chasing what we call internally cheap and cheapest means of production, lowest regulations wherever we possibly can.

And in some ways, that's the great irony, right?

That we, as a country, we've put in place so many fantastic principles about human rights and worker safety and minimum wage laws and all these things that protect workers and celebrate workers, and yet we let our largest brands skirt those and go overseas and chase the cheapest means of production with the lowest regulations.

And

that balance has got to get corrected, I think.

Yeah.

And it not only affects Americans, it affects people overseas as well.

I mean, China is a good example of this, right?

We've seen, you know, from a geopolitical sense, all the effects that have gone on with China over the past few years and

with COVID and all of these other things that have gone on.

But the manufacturing piece of this is is really important, right?

We are sending almost all of our manufacturing to China and India, and they don't have standards for their workers.

We see how they treat their own people.

Is there a part that we should really be rethinking here, not even just from a global competition sense, but just from a humanitarian sense?

I think so.

It kind of comes down to

whether we believe our values are truly universal values or not.

And I think there is an inconsistency with holding domestic manufacturing businesses to very high standards, but then allowing all the work for those factories chase the means of production elsewhere.

And I think

the case for globalization is a pretty obvious and elegant one if your optimization is around growing shareholder value and hitting quarterly earnings reports.

It's a lot less clear if you think about constituents beyond just your quarterly earnings statements.

And if you think about brands that live through their values, that employ Americans, that transfer good skills down throughout their workforce.

So, I think there's a big conversation to have there.

I think that we, you know, there's a fascinating thing happening now with textiles in Xinjiang, which is the far western province in China that grows almost all of the Chinese cotton.

There's awful things going on there with minority Muslims and forced labor.

And it's just a good example of Apple's in the middle of this with the things that are going on with Foxconn.

A good example of businesses that are trying to strike this uncomfortable balance with what they're Instagramming about versus the way that they're actually making the things that they sell.

And I think

that is an uncomfortable place to be.

And I think that we've all got a role to play, right?

I mean, consumers have a role to play, brands have a role to play, policymakers have a role to play.

But I do think we need to come together a little bit and have the conversation around what do we care about.

And to the extent that we care about it a lot, do we want to apply those standards universally, both to our supply chain decisions, our trade agreements,

what our consumers have access to and understand?

So I do think it's something that we need to start to think about more thoroughly.

We are sort of told that this supply chain thing is not over, that we're going to be facing delays, and this is just kind of our new normal.

This is how it's going to be in America.

Now, maybe we should learn to be more like Europe and just expect delays all the time.

First of all, I mean, is that what you're seeing out there?

And is that the right way to look at this?

Should we just be accepting this new normal?

Yeah, I hope not.

I mean, you know,

that's a good pitch for American manufacturing, right?

I mean, we've actually been lucky enough enough to navigate.

So we make, most of the stuff we make are t-shirts and sweaters.

That's the bulk of our line.

We make blue jeans, we make flannel shirts, make other things.

Almost all of that comes through a southeastern supply chain, Carolinas and that area, from cotton all the way through.

So for almost all of the pandemic, we've been able to navigate our supply chain stuff without a hitch.

And that's not just proximity and not having to deal with challenges of overseas COVID restrictions and other things.

It's also that we've got deep relationships with the supply chain that we work with.

And so we were able to work in real concert with our yarn providers and our knitters and our spinners and our dyers.

And so it's been, you know, I think that's a good example of some of the importance of having an onshored capability across the manufacturing sector so that you're not so exposed internationally to

the breaks that are inevitably going to continue to come, in my opinion.

Yeah,

it's understandable.

And I think there's a There's that weird line that I think we all have to walk here because, you know, look, I have some sympathy for these companies when they say, hey, like, we can't pay American workers what, you know, what the new, you know, minimum wage is even here in the United States.

We can go over there.

We can save 80%.

People need cheap clothing and they need to be able to, and I understand, some of that I have sympathy for at some level.

But like, you can't just abandon the American way of doing things.

How do you?

get to a point where you can pay, I mean, you guys pay your employees a good wage.

And, we're told that that's just not possible.

How do you do that and still make a company work?

Yeah, so it's sort of an incomplete conversation, right?

So I get asked a lot about minimum wage jobs and how I think about minimum wage.

And my response to that basically is it's an incomplete question.

We all want to pay American workers as much as we possibly can, right?

I mean, that's the objective.

We all want people to be living good, dignified lives with good incomes.

But if at one point we are enacting minimum wage laws and raising minimum wages at the same time that we're saying, let's all the manufacturers, the customers of that manufacturing jobs go overseas and avoid those minimum wage jobs.

All we're doing is penalizing a domestic workforce ultimately.

And so I think the way you do it is that you begin to think about trading partners through the lens of people that share our values.

You know, there's the current administration talking a little bit about this concept of friend shoring, which is in some ways a carry forward from the Trump administration, about

doing business with countries that share our values and not doing businesses with countries that don't.

You know, if you think about the American marketplace,

it's the biggest, most valuable marketplace on earth, and yet the cost of entry to it is basically zero.

We allow everybody to participate in our marketplace.

And I think that we ought to ask the question whether that's the right thing to do.

And if you make it so that it is a bit more difficult to avoid what I think are basic American values in your manufacturing choices,

you're going to encourage reshoring in a way that is going to address the labor question that you're getting at, I think, really effectively.

It's a really interesting question.

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Talking to Bayard Winthrop.

He is

the big wig.

What's your official title of it there?

It's owner.

Founder, I guess.

Ah, you got the big one.

The founder is the best one to have.

I think that's the best one to have.

Of American Giant, a great clothing company if you don't know them, if you've never had one of them.

I mean, look, it's around Christmas, a great time to pick up something from American Giant.

And I think, as you kind of hear, as we talk,

you have a different perspective on the country than I think a lot of these big companies do.

Is it

how much of this has to be?

Because

we come in here every day and we talk about issues and things that really matter to us.

And what I think a lot of people engage with is, you know, you have these beliefs about the country, the foundations,

that this is a special place, it's an exceptional place.

But putting that into practice, really living that life is really hard.

What do you say to a company that's on the fence here, that's thinking like, hey, maybe I'll pull some of my manufacturing back to the United States?

You're the one who's experienced this.

What do you say to them?

Well, yeah.

So I think a couple of sort of just sort of framing reactions to that.

One is for public companies, it's really hard because public companies are in the cycle, like a lot of our elected officials, where they're thinking very short term.

They're thinking quarter to quarter to quarter.

And quarter to quarter to quarter, increases in labor rates or the cost of thread matters a ton.

And so it's a tall ask for public companies.

Private companies, it's a different matter.

And I think to those companies, I think

to the extent that they can start and begin to use American labor for small parts of their offerings across the manufacturing sector, it has a huge impact.

We had the benefit in some ways that 10 years ago, when I started American Giant, I made a decision that we were going to make it all domestically.

And that was kind of, that was the framework that I lived within.

And so that made every decision that followed pretty easy.

It became about how do we do that as well and as effectively as we can.

For companies that have, that used to be domestically made, like basically all apparel companies, and that now have offshore, to reshore again, I think

there's a perception that the American workforce and manufacturing capability is not there.

That's wrong.

There's a tremendous amount, even in textiles, which has been hit the hardest about offshoring, there's a tremendous amount of viability within textiles.

And it's a big part of what that industry is lacking are customers that commit to it.

And so if you had big brands that said, look, we're going to be here.

We're going to order our line of t-shirts or our line of v-neck t-shirts, some small piece, but we're going to stick to it for a while, that would be a huge boon to manufacturers because these businesses need that reliability.

So I think that's what I would say is try it.

Try it with socks.

Try it with T-shirts.

Try it with something.

Give the supply chain a shot.

Be a part of the solution, right?

Your customers will give you credit for it.

They'll appreciate it.

But it's a more complicated question for the public companies, I think.

And that's not to say that I think a lot of them are interested in being a force for good, but it's just we've created a system that makes it harder to do that.

And so I think we've got to look at other ways to create space for those businesses to make better decisions.

We've got about a minute and a half left here.

What's your level of optimism for America?

I'm pretty optimistic.

Really?

I have trouble with this.

I am.

So I hear what you're saying.

But here's why I'm optimistic.

I think that there is a growing sense among just the average Americans that are feeling frustrated with what's going on in D.C.

I feel like they're frustrated with what's going on with tech.

They're frustrated with what's going on with a lot of the big, in our case, big apparel brands, that are making decisions that seem to be self-serving and they're less about the country and less about the average Americans.

And I think as people gather their voice and they make decisions about directing their dollars towards things that they care about, they get more active during the election cycles, I think you're going to see a change.

And I share some of your pessimism, but it's short-term pessimism for me.

It's It's long-term optimism.

I just believe in the country and I believe in our ability when we're seeing something that we think is nonsense, we eventually throw it out and start fresh.

And so I think it's going to take a bit of patience, but I'm feeling optimistic about it.

Yeah, you know,

I think, you know, when I really think about it from a

grand scheme here, like, I think

at the end of the day, it's a great country.

It's still a lot of the great things happen.

We've, you know, changed the world, right?

That's right.

So it's a lot to be optimistic about, but then I read the news.

And so I need to stop doing that.

No more news for me.

And maybe keep some context around it.

Remember that, remember history, remember the Civil War, remember JFK, remember all the things we've been through that have been so difficult.

And this one seems pretty rough, but I do believe that average Americans eventually get fed up enough to act.

And I think that's what is required.

And I think it's happening right now.

I think there's just increasing activity going on that I'm excited about.

And

I think in a weird way, COVID has kind of jarred us all out of our slumber a little bit and got us thinking about more complex issues that are relevant to Americans.

And I think people are getting conscious about it.

It's very true.

By Winthrop, he's the American Giant founder and CEO.

You can go check out all their stuff at American-Giant.com.

People are looking for

the last-minute holiday, I guess, last-minute holiday gift here.

What's the go-to?

Well, we're known for a sweatshirt.

So it was called the greatest hoodie ever made, and that's probably the easiest one.

It is, too.

I have one.

It's awesome.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, no, it's great.

And it's made by Americans in America.

This is not like a new avatar sequel.

This is real.

This is actually happening.

North and South Carolina.

Very, very cool.

Very cool.

Byrd Winthrop, it's American-Giant.com.

Thanks so much for coming in.

Really appreciate it.

Appreciate having me.

All right.

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Lost his voice again, I hear.

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Really?

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It sounds like it would be okay.

I don't know why.

They say the experts, though, say that there's some consensus on it.

I don't know.

You know, these scientists.

I just blow off whatever they say.

Exactly.

It's always the right thing to do.

All right.

We have

the election last night to discuss.

Yeah.

Because it went about like we expected, really.

It did.

It did.

It seemed like it was basically around where the polls said it would be.

It was basically around where the last election was.

Raphael Warnock currently with over 95% of the vote tabulated, 51.4% of the vote.

Herschel Walker, 48.6% of the vote.

About 100,000 votes separating the two candidates.

You know, really the the runoff game is about turnout.

And you see, when you look at the red counties, I mean, you look at the counties really across the board, they kind of came out about percentage-wise the same way.

I mean, you don't see much of a change.

What you do see is that

the turnout was a little bit better in blue areas than it was in red areas.

But it was really close.

It was a really close race the entire time.

Democrats outspent Republicans by massive amounts.

Massive amounts.

There's some.

I thought it was four to one.

Yeah, four to one in spending, something like three to one in just whether you'd see an ad or not.

What's incredible is $1.4

billion

have been spent on just four races in the state since the beginning of 2020.

In Georgia, $1.4 billion.

I guess we're supposed to give Stacey Abrams the credit for that.

But like, you spend like that, and it's just absolutely incredible.

I can't imagine how sick of politics people in Georgia are right now.

Oh, yeah.

I was just watching, was it Georgia, Georgia, Georgia Tech, I think.

And during that broadcast, I don't know, all of the ads were about mostly Warnock, but a few Herschel ads, too.

And I was sick of it.

Just from watching that one game.

I can't imagine if you live in Georgia, you must have been so bombarded by that.

Well, and I think we all have that

part of the election cycle where we get sick of election ads.

That happens to everybody.

But if you think about Georgia, they had

it twice.

They had it here, right?

With a runoff.

They had it in November with the main election and the whole lead up to that in

a purple state with really tight elections sort of across the board, with the exception maybe of governor.

Then, remember, they also had a runoff in 2021

from the 2020 election.

So they've had these four elections since November 2020.

Every one of them has been incredibly expensive.

Non-stop ads all the time.

When does normal life come back for these poor people?

I guess now.

I guess this is the beginning of it.

Unfortunately, their normal life has Raphael Warnock as their senator.

And it's,

look, it's tough.

Really, all...

All of these, there were several winnable races here that Republicans did not pull off.

And, you know, Herschel Walker, I think, for being a first-time candidate,

did maybe better than expected.

You know, he was not, he wasn't a disaster as far as the debate went.

And, you know, he had some of the big scandal stories, but I don't think that was what turned this election.

It just, it's tough to win

in Georgia now.

It's no longer the Republican stronghold it once was.

It probably should be fairly considered a straight purple state at this point.

And you have to try to find the right candidates for the right markets.

And maybe a purple state.

You got to think a little bit differently

as you roll your candidates out there.

But, you know, Walker, I think, look, I think he can be proud of his efforts here.

It's just a really devastating thing that a state like Georgia would have such a radical like Raphael Warnock.

Sure is.

Yeah, they don't deserve that.

America doesn't deserve that.

Right.

But here he is.

He's in, and this time it's for six years instead of two.

Yeah.

So that hurts.

Because I think a lot of people were like, ah, I mean, look, it's 50-50 anyway at the worst.

This is, this is an argument as to why maybe the Republicans didn't win here.

I think if the Senate, if the control of the Senate stood on Georgia, let's say they would have picked off another one of these races and it was only 49 seats for Democrats.

They needed the 50th.

I think

Walker may have won because I think there's an attitude from Republicans where it's like, well, we already lost the Senate.

What's the point?

And of course, the point is

the

starting line for every election here for the next two cycles.

You know, we talked about this when it comes to, when it came to the 2022 election, the starting line in the Senate was 36, 29 with Democrats in the lead.

Those are all the seats that were not up for election.

So they started with a seven-seat lead.

And of course, with Kamala Harris as the vice president, it's really an eight-seat lead

seat lead.

So they had a lot of ground to pick up to try to take control of the Senate.

It's why it was so difficult.

So now we go into the 2024 campaign, this seat that could have been one that the Republicans had already banked, that was going to be in that same starting line calculation, unfortunately is now gone.

And the same thing with all these other close races, like, you know, Arizona and Pennsylvania and all these races that we've been talking about that the Republicans wound up losing, that's where it really hurts.

The 51-seat majority thing will help with with committees.

It will help give them a little breathing room around Joe Manchin or Kirsten Sinema in a particular vote, maybe.

It's not all that important, though, because the Republicans got the House.

They can block a lot of those 50-seat bills.

But when it comes to the judicial nominees, that's going to be big.

That's going to be a big one.

And it was why they really needed to win.

I'm really worried about the packing of the Supreme Court.

Like, that would be bad.

That would be

catastrophic.

That would be bad.

I'm kind of hoping they don't get around to that.

Yeah, I hope they don't.

The filibuster thing, they theoretically still don't have the votes for because they needed.

It wasn't a one-seat thing.

Do they eliminate the filibuster?

Right.

They could.

Could.

They don't currently have the votes for it, but you know,

I always say this to people.

If you are sitting back and saying, you know what, Joe Manchin will save us.

You are

really playing with fire because Joe Manchin will not save you.

No, he will not.

There were two bills, two bills that the

Democrats wanted to get through with 50 votes.

And we heard a lot of widening.

We heard a lot of op-eds.

We heard a lot of comments from people like Joe Manchin.

Oh, inflation's too high.

We just can't spend anymore.

And I don't know.

I guess there's some

people who are listening in West Virginia know these people in West Virginia who for some reason fall for this nonsense over and over again.

I doubt there's many in this audience that do it, but they probably know people who are conservative and say, well, Joe Manchin's pushing back.

He's the Democrat that cares.

He's the guy that's going to care about inflation and the economy.

And it's like, what wound up happening?

They still passed two bills.

They still got it done.

Yep.

They didn't care about inflation at all.

We still all had to pay the price for that.

Yes, some of the bills were slightly smaller than maybe they would have been without his whining and constant op-eds and all the credit he takes for being a maverick.

Maybe we saved a couple of dollars.

Really?

Is that really, is there any

real value in that?

There's no reason West Virginia has a Democratic senator.

That is

absolutely ridiculous.

It is.

Ridiculous.

It's as bad as Alaska having a very, very

irritating Republican senator.

And they now have a Democratic congresswoman.

Oh, yeah, right.

So it's it's

equally.

But I think even Alaska, though, has, I don't know,

there's something in the water in some places in Alaska.

It's probably from fracking.

It's probably fracking's fault.

But like they kind of bend their own way at times.

You know, and West Virginia can as well, they've elected far too many Democrats over the years with this sort of like reputational, our Democrats are different thing.

But like Donald Trump won West Virginia by 50 points.

Like, there's no reason

to have a Democratic senator in that state.

And by the way, just a quick reminder, we can rectify that situation in 2024.

That can happen.

This does not have to be reality.

In fact, this would be one you'd really expect Republicans to be able to pick up if they don't completely screw it up.

But that was the talk about this election.

How many times have we talked, Pat, over the past couple of years?

Republicans have a great opportunity here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, if they don't screw it up.

Which they manage to do virtually every time.

Yes.

Here we are, and they've screwed it up.

But I mean, at least we got the house.

Or they got the house.

And that's one of the things that's really irritating me right now about the coverage of the election is how Democrats are acting as if they just went to 17-0 and won the Super Bowl by 45 points.

Guys, relax.

You

had control of the the government and now you don't.

Right?

That is not, I understand you think you outperformed everybody's expectations in the last two weeks.

And I'll grant you that that is what occurred.

You underperformed everybody's expectations from the summer.

So I don't know why you're that thrilled about it, but okay, you did win a couple seats that were that were borderline.

They've won a lot of close races.

The house is closer than people expected.

There's something to take from that, right?

You might be encouraged by and been happy about it, but they lost the house.

They had unified control of the government.

And Nancy Pelosi said she expected, she completely expected to maintain control in the House.

She did.

And you didn't.

And now she's gone.

So that's a loss.

That's a loss.

And like, look, a 51-seat majority is not something that Democrats have bragged about this century or even last century, right?

Like this,

they were used to getting, remember, Barack Obama got Obamacare through with 60 senators, which eventually fell to 59.

So they had to pass, they had to pole vault the bill through.

They lost a seat in Massachusetts.

That bill was so popular.

But Scott Brown came in after that, but they had 60 seats.

They didn't have to listen at all.

Now they're bragging about 51.

They're bragging about losing the House, bragging about losing.

I mean, this is like the Betto O'Rourke approach to politics.

And acting as if it was a catastrophe for Republicans.

It wasn't.

We have to step back and say,

look, it wasn't that bad.

And here's the one real positive, I think.

You know, I think it was Van Jones, of all people, who made this point last night.

And he's getting beat up by the left over it, but he's right.

The Republicans are going to look, hopefully, at themselves and at least take a moment to say, what did we do wrong?

How did this get screwed up?

What do we need to do next time?

What candidates can we recruit?

Holy crap, we need to do more.

We've grown into 2024.

Republicans have the advantage in 2024 in the Senate, and they can pick up seats.

Democrats seem to be in the state where we're like, wow, this all worked.

The CRT thing worked.

Wow.

You know, hey, let's just keep grooming kids into all sorts of weird sexual behavior in middle school.

People seem to like it.

And they're not going to examine their approach at all.

True.

And that's a really good thing for Republicans.

To the advantage of Republicans.

Yeah.

But we'll see.

We'll see.

Again, they could easily screw it all up.

Oh, yeah.

They're good at this.

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So, you guys, you and Glenn talked about the Brunson Adams Supreme Court case yesterday, a little bit.

Talked about it a little bit yesterday.

Yes, a lot of people are very excited about it

because

they believe that since Congress didn't do their job in investigating the 2020 election, at least this is my understanding of it.

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representatives could be removed from office, including the president of the United States and the vice president of the United States.

That kind of seems unlikely to me.

Seems like a bit of a long shot.

And it doesn't seem like there's a mechanism to do that, really.

Yeah, and you know, through a lawsuit.

A lot of hurdles to get over here.

Honestly, I said to Glenn, I was like, you know, like, it's interesting because it is kind of like burning up the online world right now.

Talk about this.

It is.

You know, and so it's interesting to kind of get familiar with it.

If the Supreme Court picks it up, then you're going to have a deeper conversation.

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you can believe it's a little bit further along.

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desire or claim of

a threat to the Constitution, that you have to investigate it, but there's no clear hurdle as to what that amount would be.

You know, I guess the idea is that some voters or some representatives voted for an investigation.

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Of course, like, you know, then you could have this happening all the time, right?

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And the idea that like, even if all of, there's several other hurdles, we don't need to get into the whole thing, several other very difficult hurdles for any of this to actually be reality.

But even if it was, like, would it be a good idea?

Like, think of the concept of throwing out all these people.

A lot of them we can't stand, so like, we're all like, yeah, throw the bums out.

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how does that feel then?

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But that's the long and the short of it.

Interesting, though.

Interesting.

I'm surprised that they haven't been thrown out just based on standing.

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Amidst all the rightful focus on government censorship and election interference, another big story is brewing at the Supreme Court.

The justices heard oral arguments the other day in a case centering on

a web designer who has religious objections to making websites for same-sex couples.

This comes up over and over again in Colorado because essentially they're trying to persecute Christians for their beliefs.

And

this is all about an agenda, not about actually designing a website.

Of course not.

Because there's a million people you can turn to and they'll design your website.

No problem at all.

Is it controversial to say, to step back a minute from even that point and say, you don't need a website for your wedding?

I know you think you do.

You don't.

This is, it doesn't matter if you're gay or straight.

You don't need

a website for your wedding.

I could get married.

Yes.

And in fact, I did.

Right.

Did you have a website?

In 1985, I did not have a website.

Really?

Yeah.

Isn't that weird?

Yeah, that is a little weird.

In 85, I think it was much more normal to have websites for your wedding.

But now it just seems a little bit over.

Look, post some pictures on your Facebook page or whatever.

You know, you got Instagram, throw them on there.

You don't need an ⁇

that's probably not the point they're making at the Supreme Court, but I just want people to know they don't need

to have a website for their wedding.

You should have told these guys that a long time ago.

We would have solved the whole thing.

Yeah.

And we just wouldn't have this issue at the Supreme Court right now.

Right.

Like, and I do think there is part of that point that is really germane to this case, which is you can make an argument, like, you need food.

Right.

So if you want to have these conversations about a lunch counter, we've obviously talked about this before in the past.

You shouldn't be able to say, well, I'm not going to serve eggs to you because you're black.

And we all understand that that is a completely ridiculous position.

No place should ever do that.

But like when we're talking about a service that honestly,

can you even make an argument that you need it?

I can't come up with an argument that it's a necessary.

To me, there's a better argument to go to the Supreme Court and say, we shouldn't allow people to make wedding websites.

I think we should delete the entire industry if there is one.

So like, I mean, it is, though, I think, important when you talk about this, when you're talking about art, when you're talking about something like a cupcake, when you're talking about a wedding cake, when you're talking about a wedding venue, these are not life or death matters.

This is not whether you can get water into your home.

Right.

Right.

Like, these are totally different things, and there should be a completely different standard for them.

And by the way, with the cake maker,

Jack Phillips.

Yeah, he's been persecuted almost out of business since, what, I don't know, it's been probably 10 years.

It's been a long time.

First of all, he had this same-sex couple that wanted the cake, and he didn't want to make it, and they tried to force him to.

And then they came along, and it was another one.

It was a, I don't know, a trans issue, I think, the second time.

And they knew full well that the guy had these religious convictions, but they specifically went after him.

They targeted him.

Yeah, they targeted him, and they're just persecuting him now.

And that's the part of this.

The process is the punishment.

And the sad thing is the Supreme Court has not yet made a broad enough ruling that will prevent the religious persecution of this poor guy.

Yeah.

We were just talking off the air, and I was like, you know, I'm pretty confident in this because Roberts,

he's terrible.

But actually, in this one, it's one of his better issues.

I think that is true.

However, he is responsible as well for making these rulings so narrow.

Stop it.

The Jack Phillips thing is a great example of that.

Phillips won.

Yeah, he won.

He won.

But it should be over already.

It was not enough.

But they made it super narrow so that they could continue to bring these cases forward and continue to ruin people's businesses and lives over and over and over and over again.

And that's what's going on now in the Supreme Court with this woman who wants to design wedding websites for some unknown reason.

Like, it's just one of these things where they are.

Same situation.

They know, obviously, what they're doing.

They're targeting someone with Christian values that they know won't want to do this.

So they can harass them and harass them and harass them and ruin their lives.

Because even if she wins, her life is largely destroyed.

Her business is on the edge

if it's not completely destroyed.

And

even if the end result is not a good one for the left, they get to run someone through the ringer.

And this, though, I think is going to be the time, I hope, where they come with a really broad ruling that shows that this stuff is ridiculous and should not continue.

These laws should be thrown out.

And it's like, we're all against discrimination.

I am against a company who would say, you know, who would discriminate against someone and not sell them something.

But like, part of this is just recognizing that sometimes the country sort of sucks.

It's a great country.

Yeah.

Sometimes people don't do the things you want them to do.

I know it's surprising to hear.

It is shocking.

It's shocking.

A lot of people are shocked by it.

And Colorado has a law now

that protects same-sex couples or trans people

because of their status.

What isn't protected, according to the lawyers for Colorado, for the state of Colorado, is religious liberty because it doesn't have status.

Wait, what?

I mean, you're going against the U.S.

Constitution there.

Yeah.

So I think this time they really need to rule on the merits of the Constitution and the First Amendment and

end this torment.

Make this

shoot this down.

It's got to stop.

Because there's really double protection here.

You can't compel someone to say something that they don't believe.

You can't compel.

I was thinking about this example with the Kanye West thing that's going on right now.

Let's say Kanye West gets to the point in his career, very, maybe very, very soon, where his entire business is customizing raps for birthday parties and events.

Like, you go to Kanye's BirthdayRaps.com and Kanye will work your name into a rap because, given his career arc, that's probably where this ends up pretty soon.

And let's just say that's going on.

And then a Jewish person comes to him and says, hey, can you do my bar mitzvah?

You know, can you give me a song for that?

Should Kanye West have to do that?

We all agree that his views are terrible on this and

abhorrent.

No, but you should be able to pick and choose what you do in your business.

He shouldn't have to say something praising Jewish ceremony.

Let's

the free market worked that out exactly and you know what you go to somebody else right and everyone realizes if they there's

you could go on what's that site uh fiverr.com which is has a you know like a bunch of people who are independent doing things all around the world uh you know for uh as little as five dollars that's how they started and so you could have them build you a website they you can get someone to voice over your podcast you can get someone to design you know to do audio editing for you video editing whatever it is.

All this is available to everybody.

They will never ask a question about

your marriage situation.

They won't take a stance.

There's thousands to choose from.

And that's just one website.

You go to a bunch of other freelancer sites.

You can go to another local.

Everyone knows this has nothing to do with the website.

It's about targeting.

religious views for destruction.

That's what it is.

How do we destroy people's closely held views on religion?

And you know, you don't even have to agree with those views.

As I said with Kanye West,

he is protected by the Constitution to not have to

issue compelled speech.

You can't force him to say something he doesn't agree with.

You can abandon, you can make him, you can destroy his career by not frequenting his business.

You can complain about it loudly.

You can say all these things about Kanye West that are really bad.

You can use your freedom of speech to criticize him.

But you can't make him say he hurts Jews because he doesn't.

And maybe

he says he does, I guess, on that one.

He does say, I love the Jews.

And I love the Nazis.

Not a great point.

But the point is that you can't, even there, right, Pat?

That is not necessarily a religious view, though maybe he believes it is.

But like, even if you're just like, you know what, you shouldn't have to be able to go to a conservative and force them to say that they like liberals, the same way the opposite side.

That's nothing to do with religion.

And you're protected by the Constitution there.

Add on the religious aspect, which is also protected by the Constitution, two

separate

areas of the Constitution that specifically protect this sort of behavior.

And this is what, the 10th time we've gone through this charade?

At least.

It's insane.

At least.

And, you know, it's

just the

just the practical application of uh the free market should deal with this

if if you don't want to serve somebody in your restaurant you shouldn't have to and it used to be you didn't have to

the signs that used to say no shirt no shoes no service okay i and then a lot of times underneath parenthetically it was like we reserve the right to refuse service to anybody yeah well you certainly can't do that now.

Right.

You can't refuse service to anybody.

Apparently.

But if you did, let's say you just, you had a thing where no minority could come and eat at your restaurant.

Well, let the free market run them out of business.

By, you know, when that gets around in the community, I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of people who object to that.

and don't go frequent that restaurant.

That's how you take care of it, right?

If you're a libertarian, that's how you take care of it.

And that's how you just let the market work.

And you don't need to be a libertarian.

That's just American.

That is.

Right?

You know, and but it's not anymore.

They want to change that.

They want to change the foundations of our country, but those countries, those foundations exist.

That's the brilliance of capitalism.

Yep.

It solved these problems.

This all started a million years ago almost

with tribes.

that were trying to figure out how to not kill each other every time they needed something.

If one tribe had one resource and the other tribe didn't, they needed to get that resource.

And the way human beings dealt with that problem for a long, long time was to attack.

They would take their weapons and they would go attack the other tribe and take the stuff they needed.

That's how it worked for a long time.

Right.

And then trade bubbled up.

And trade became the way that both parties could get what they wanted.

One party had one resource, one party had the other.

They would swap.

And everybody was happy.

And then currency came along to make that exchange much, much more smooth.

And capitalism bloomed from there.

And it created a situation.

I mean, you can really argue that the basis of capitalism, why it exists completely, is for you to do business with people you don't like.

Everyone can do business with their friends.

That's easy, right?

It's easy to be able to find your political allies and the people you hang out with.

You could trade something that you have to a relative fairly easily.

The reason why capitalism exists is so you can go into a restaurant and you have some hardcore Biden supporter who's behind the grill who makes you a good meal anyway.

That's the entire system.

It's the brilliance of the system.

And

we are now at the point where the left, this shouldn't surprise anybody, the left is trying to overturn that.

They're trying to make it known like, no, actually, you have to agree with all my political viewpoints for you to even have a business.

They're trying to fundamentally chip away at what built this country.

That should surprise none of us, but it is going on all the time.

And

if we allow this to continue, especially when you're attacking religion, it's another fundamental value here.

We have

multiple pillars of this country under attack at the same time.

It's a really important case at the Supreme Court right now.

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And really, this is a long time coming.

Shark Week.

It lacks diversity, as you know.

It's almost all about sharks, I've noticed.

Yeah, but the people who talk about the sharks.

Yeah,

there is a lack of diversity there, too.

In addition to not talking about anything but sharks during Shark Week, you know, like they're not devoting any time to blowfish.

It's really

a problem.

There's almost

no duck-billed platypus

representation in Shark Week, which is a real problem for me.

But not only that, apparently men are overrepresented.

Are they?

They're usually white.

And a lot of times, get this, and this is maybe the most egregious.

Okay.

They're named Mike.

There's too many Mics who are shark experts during Shark Week.

And I think it's time Discovery did something about that.

What?

Too many Mics?

Yes.

Yes.

Is that serious?

That's serious.

They're really complaining that too many people are named Mike.

Yes.

Yes, they are.

Why?

Do you

not see the problem with that?

No, I do not see the problem with that.

In fact, it's completely immaterial.

Is the coverage good?

Do they talk about sharks?

I mean, I would say, like, I can understand you not liking the idea that too many of your race or gender would be represented on Shark Week because my guess is that a lot of people are eaten.

Like, it's like

they're telling stories of people who were attacked by sharks.

Yeah.

Perhaps you don't want to be represented all that well in that particular programming, but apparently this is a big issue.

Well, the woman who did the big study, Lisa Whitenack.

Oh my gosh.

Ignoring her own problematic name there,

loved sharks as a kid and apparently watched Shark Week religiously.

But then she did this study that found out that lots of the scientists that talk about the sharks are white

and they're men

and they're named Mike.

Yeah, that's it.

You know, I will say, it's too many mics.

Of the three claims there,

the one that is most believable to me is Mike.

I feel like there probably are a lot of people named Mike.

A lot of people who are named Mike happen to get into the

shark industry industry.

Yes.

Being an expert on sharks.

Why would this matter?

I honestly don't know.

I do not know.

Now, we've been told for a million years that STEM,

you know, STEM projects and jobs and science and math

have been overrepresented by men.

So, in theory, I assume all those problems aren't sorted out.

They're still complaining about it constantly.

So, I would assume that probably there's more shark experts.

And certainly, I have found in my general research, Pat, over my lifetime that it's usually dudes that are interested in sharks.

It does seem like

most women aren't usually

a good example of a woman who is not interested in shark week whatsoever.

Women are necessary.

There's no interest.

I feel like watching a giant animal rip the flesh of another

being apart is more of a male concern.

It seems like it, yeah.

Women tend to like things more like, you know, I don't know, Hallmark movies, right?

Like, I just don't don't think that, you know, sharks

are really on the interest set of most women.

But when the team examined hundreds of Shark Week episodes that aired between 1988 and 2020,

their research claims

that the programming emphasized negative messages about sharks.

There's another issue.

Lacked useful messaging about shark conservation and overwhelmingly featured white men named Mike.

Negative messages about sharks?

This can't be real.

Lou, check it.

Does that say Babylon B on the piece of paper?

Washington Pubs.

Okay, well,

Babylon B is more credible.

Yes, absolutely.

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Joe Biden went to Arizona before he left.

He was actually asked a question by Peter Deucey that made a lot of sense.

Deucey asked him,

if you're going to a border state,

why don't you go to the border?

Border state and not just at the border.

Because there's a more important thing going on.

They're going to invest billions of dollars in a new enterprise.

Oh,

more important things going on.

Really?

Are there more important things?

I mean, I guess.

Are there?

Abortion is the only other thing I can think of that's really more important, and he's on the wrong side of that, too.

But the border's pretty important.

The border is where people are pouring across to the tune of 2.3 million last fiscal year.

That's just the ones that we encountered.

How many more were not encountered in places where the border agents aren't and they don't see you and they don't have any contact with you?

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more.

I'll bet it was 3 million, 3.5 million is probably the actual figure on that.

I mean,

we don't have any idea how many actual people sneaked across our border last year.

With drugs,

with human trafficking.

I mean, and that's not important to this guy.

Clearly, not important.

He doesn't care.

Doesn't care at all.

But

here's what he said last year about the border in October.

October 2020.

I've been there before, and I haven't, I mean, I know it well.

I guess I should go down, but

the whole point of it is I haven't had a whole hell of a lot of time to get down.

I've been spending time going around looking at the $900 billion worth of damage done by

hurricanes and floods and weather and traveling around the world.

But I plan on, now my wife Jill has been down.

She's been on both sides of the river.

She's seen the circumstances there.

Both sides of the river.

She's looked into those places.

You notice you're not seeing a lot of pictures of kids lying on top of one another with,

you know, with

blind, with,

you know,

looks like tarps on top of them.

Does he know anything about anything?

No.

Is there any topic he has any knowledge on about at all?

Is there any moment where he's like, you know, here's a well-considered, sober opinion about an issue that's well-informed?

Does that ever occur?

Why would you think that anybody cares that Jill has been there?

Who cares?

She's not an elected official.

She can't do anything about this.

Right.

Why would I care if your wife has been to the border or not?

That doesn't help me.

That really doesn't.

My second cousin, twice removed, Steve, lives in San Diego.

And he's seen the border.

And he looked at it one time and he saw somebody come across.

So there's that.

It's so weird.

Really weird.

You know, and I will say.

Really weird.

Look, do I actually care if Joe Biden goes to the border?

No, because he would probably screw it up.

Whatever came out of that would be negative.

But I like the fact that it makes him squirm, though.

That's what I like about this.

I don't really need him there.

I don't really need him at the border.

He's not going to do anything positive.

He's going to hide anything negative that's going on.

I don't know if there's any real reason for him to go there.

It just shows the the lack of interest.

No, he doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

And, you know, look, again, this is a message that's been sent by the country to Joe Biden is that he doesn't have to care.

Right.

And Debbie Dingle, another.

Which just seems like a fake name.

Debbie Dingle.

It does seem like a fake.

It seems like you made that up.

Did you make that up?

I did not.

Okay.

Here's Debbie Dingle is a real person.

A real person, a real representative talking about Biden and the border.

She doesn't care either.

Would you like to see him visit the border?

I don't care if he visits the border or not.

He doesn't need to visit the border to know we've got a problem.

He's got people that report to him every day about what the problem is.

And sometimes we fixate on these little issues.

Do you think the president doesn't know we've got a problem at the border and what the issues are?

I know he does.

But not necessary to see it firsthand.

That's a little issue.

I think he knows it's got to be addressed.

He's gotten the reports.

He's seen the photos.

So

I mean, at some point, he may or may not go, but I think he knows what's got to get fixed and you've seen him begin that process.

No one would care if he went to the border if he was actually dealing with the border.

Yeah.

Right?

Like I as a just

actually care if he goes.

The point is that he does he's he is not apparently aware that there's a problem there.

Or if he he thinks the problem there is that there's too many border guards on horses whipping people.

That's what he thinks the problem is.

That's the issue.

So I can understand why you'd want him to go because maybe he'd be if you have this really optimistic view of Joe Biden, maybe you'd think, wow, he's going to be awakened by these, you know, these images.

I don't just

something to disregard.

He's not going to be.

He would just, but he's not admitting that there's a problem.

He's not acknowledging it.

He's not dealing with it.

That's why people are asking about it.

Right.

And he's got more important things to do.

And he explained that while he was in Arizona yesterday.

Here's what he's doing in Arizona.

And today, TSMC has announced a second major investment.

They'll construct a second fab here in Phoenix to build chips, three nano chips, the three nano chips.

Chips that are three nano.

And you know what I'm saying?

No.

Here you go.

Nano, no, no.

I don't know.

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, and that's funny to the audience.

Here's the leader of the free world.

Doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.

Nanochip, three chips, three, and then he takes off the S because then he decides three isn't plural or something.

Three chip.

I don't know.

I know what he's saying.

A master class.

No one.

Dementia?

Yes.

It's a masterclass in dementia.

Like, seriously, if you

were at some institute and trying to teach young and up-and-coming medical professionals about

these sort of terrible ailments and say, hey, here's one of these.

If you guys want to see what dementia looks like in the mid-stages, here it is.

Here it is.

Here's him trying to say nano chips.

Here's the thing that happens when the medication starts to wear off.

Because

this is what we see when he's, I don't know, out past 11 o'clock in the morning.

He starts to degrade.

He starts to disintegrate.

And he doesn't know what he's talking about.

He can't read some of the time.

He certainly can't do numbers.

And he is just lost.

And that's why when he goes to a podium and he's at a microphone, and if Jill's not standing right there to lead him off the stage, he has no idea where to go, what to do.

That's why he's always turning around and shaking hands with the air or looking around like, I don't.

Where do I go?

I don't know what to do now.

Where's my sister, Jill?

I mean, he doesn't even know.

I mean, he's described Jill as his sister.

So that's how out of it he occasionally is.

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What time was I

see that?

On Blaze TV at 8 p.m.

Eastern.

8 p.m.

Eastern.

Blazetv.com/slash Glenn.

7 o'clock my time, if I'm not mistaken.

That's true.

Yes, good job.

Good conversion skills on the fly, too.

But on that show, we do these little, like, you know, Veep Thoughts is one of them where we do this like little incoherent moments from Kamala Harris and now Veep Thoughts and we feature her words.

We came up with, we were like, you know, you see these gaffes from Biden and we're like, we should do one on the Biden thing and kind of a hail to the gaffe sort of sort of moment.

And we have these little interludes where it's like, you know, and now the president of the United States and we just let him say his piece.

And this has been the president of the United States.

Like they were super simple.

But I have to stop the production crew from making them because there's so many of them.

It's the, it would be the entire show.

Right.

All we would be doing is making hail to the gaffe moments over and over and over again.

Now, of course, the nano chip one will start the show today.

There's no doubt about that.

But still,

you could get to the point where that's all you talk about.

Every speech he makes, there's three or four of these things in it.

At least.

At least.

We have one.

Okay, let's listen.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States of America

will construct a second fab here in Phoenix to build chips, three nano chips, the three nano chip.

Nano chip chips and the three nano.

You know what I'm saying.

This has been the President of the United States of America.

Oh!

May God have mercy on our souls.

We do not know what you're saying.

We don't.

No.

No one knows what you're saying.

Three nanos?

No, I'm sorry.

We don't get that.

Well, there's the nano.

There's nano light and there's nano dry.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

All right.

I didn't realize that.

Yeah.

In the chip industry.

It tastes great, but it's less filling.

Okay.

The nano light.

Yeah, nano light.

And the nano dry.

Nano dry.

What does that do for me?

That dries out your mouth, so you need to drink something.

It's very dry.

Okay.

Do I

do nano regular when they get the nano after the nano dry?

That's going to help, but it's not going to bring you all the way back.

It's like nano dry is like the baked chips, like the baked lays.

You're green.

you're like, gosh, these, these taste okay, but they're pretty dry.

Pretty dry.

And you're like, why don't I eat regular chips?

And then you can also have the chip, the nano-light, but that has some sort of additive that really messes with your digestive system.

So I don't know if you want to try that.

I don't want that.

Just go nano-regular.

Just eat in moderation.

You know, that's all we're asking.

All things in moderation.

Right.

Including

moderation.

Yeah.

Moderate your nano chip intake.

Okay.

That's all we're saying here.

I know it's the holidays.

You want to indulge a little bit.

It's understandable.

But just take a moment and think about how many nano chips you've ingested lately.

Well, follow the advice of the president and

just do the.

Well, you know what he's saying.

Yeah.

The three nanos.

I'm saying that's all.

This is three nanos.

That's just, it's so embarrassing.

It is embarrassing.

It's embarrassing, honestly, for the country.

Yeah.

People all around the world look at this guy and they're like, that's, wow, that's the, that's the, uh, that's the big, those are the big guys in the block.

Those are, yeah, that's the superpower, that guy, however, isn't it?

I will say, though, that there are, I think there's a pretty good number of Americans that never see any of this stuff because they watch CNN, who doesn't show it.

MSNBC, they don't show it.

And so you think he's doing fine.

He's doing fine.

He's great.

We have seen like news broadcasts in Saudi Arabia and Australia and Europe all mocking him the way that we're mocking him.

And And that's just like, look, let us make fun of him.

I don't want you doing it.

Oh, the Australians are all over it.

Oh, yeah.

They think it's hilarious.

Gosh.

And I can't believe it.

They played him almost every night.

I would do the same thing.

I would too.

You know, if we had, you know, if Macron was doing this every night, we'd certainly be making fun of him.

And it's so much worse because he is the leader of the free world, which they mention every time they play this stuff.

Here's the leader of the free world, and then they highlight nano chips and

just asinine things, he says, on a regular basis.

I wish it was just funny.

It's really good.

We did this

the Biden triangle of emotion

because I felt like every time I see a Biden clip, I have a combination of three emotions, which is like, you know, I feel sad.

Okay.

I feel like I feel it's funny.

Yeah.

And it's scary.

And sometimes it's all three things.

Yeah, it is.

Sometimes it's right in the middle of the triangle.

Sometimes it's leaning to the scary side.

Like that one, I don't know, maybe put it on like the funny side.

I just want to mock that one.

Unlike when he was over making a speech and being like, hey,

we got to get Vladimir Putin regime change.

Like, whoa,

wait, what?

We are now advocating publicly for regime change in Russia in the middle of a war?

Wait, what?

Like, that one was scary.

The nanochips thing was just kind of funny.

He's an idiot.

It's a little sad.

Yeah.

Not really scary.

But you have that combination of emotions every time you watch one of these clips and you realize this guy's the, like, it's sad for our country.

It's scary for our country that the fact that like this guy has a lot of control over our lives.

Now, that's bad.

It shouldn't be that way in America, but it is true.

I mean, and he's signing executive orders like they're going out of style.

And hopefully they are.

You know, with the Supreme Court, I would say they are.

Yeah.

I do hope that's the way this turns out.

But you're right.

It's what he's doing.

You know, I hope that this Supreme Court slaps down this student loan thing.

I want the ruling to go on forever.

I want it to be a thousand pages of just slams.

And I want this stuff, this to be destroyed so no president tries to do it again.

You have to send a message with this.

And, you know, I don't, look, I have no faith in the liberal justices, but this should be a 9-0 ruling.

I do, I do have some hope.

Maybe you get Kagan.

Maybe it's a 7-2

because this is egregious.

The man just took a trillion dollars and tried to spend it without asking Congress.

Yeah.

You can't.

It's not okay.

You think the SBF is bad?

Jeez.

What is this?

He just took a trillion dollars of our money and was like, ah,

we'll just forgive all the debt.

No big deal.

Completely unacceptable.

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It's a shot per minute?

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So, yeah, it winds up being,

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It's probably my favorite book that Glenn has written.

Really?

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I love it.

He's written a few fiction books over the years.

Many of them have been very, very successful.

That one's sort of stood the test of time, though.

Yeah, because it's fiction.

That's what really happened.

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That was really weird, Stu.

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It was really weird that you would call that fiction.

It was in the fiction section at the

mistake.

Who put it in the fictional section?

That's just wrong.

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Representative Catherine Clark, incoming House Minority Whip, claimed on Sunday that one of her kids awakened from nightmares over climate change.

Do we have that?

I think we have that.

But they've also given us a model to become our own leaders.

And let me tell you what it means to me coming in as a different generation.

I remember my middle child waking up with nightmares over concern around climate change.

I mean, if that's true, whose fault is that?

Right?

Hers, probably.

The school she was sending him to.

the fact that they get that propaganda at school every day of their lives.

And the fear-mongering that has been done by the left has freaked children out.

I mean, if that's true, that she actually had nightmares about climate.

I think it

probably true in her case, of course.

I don't know.

It's probably true for a lot of kids.

Michael Schellenberger talked about this.

You know, he wrote a book called Apocalypse Never, which is a great book.

I know you've talked to him about it as well.

I love it.

Awesome book.

And he, you know, he's a big-time environmentalist.

He was

very liberal.

Won all sorts of awards for his environmental leadership and activism.

And, you know, kept looking at this and then eventually got to the point where he said, wait a minute, a lot of this stuff isn't true.

Here's what is true.

And he has great, like, if you care about the climate at all, I can't recommend that book enough.

But I asked him, like, well, why did you write it?

Like, it's got to be hard, right?

To go through, you have this reputation built

as an environmentalist.

You have all these friends on that side of the aisle.

Why write a book that tells the truth about climate change and puts things in perspective?

Why would you do that?

And his answer was that

his daughter's friends, he saw what was going on with his daughter's friends.

And his daughter's friends were literally, as he pointed out, terrified of climate change.

They were convinced.

They've been told

the earth is going to last for 10 years.

They were convinced that's how they would die.

Oh, man.

And so, like, imagine what that is doing to a teenage girl who's already dealing with God only knows what.

Right.

You know, he's like, you know, I, of course, talked to my daughter about it.

And so she was not down that road, but a lot of her friends were.

And if you think about just the life of a

teenage

life of a teenage girl is not,

there's a lot going on there, right?

Like, you know, high school and

boys and, you know, all the other stuff that goes on trying to make it through that era for every kid, boy or girl, is difficult.

You know,

add on the Greta Thunberg

approach.

We're all going to die from climate change.

We should all be acting right now.

This is the most terrible thing that could ever happen.

Oh my God, people are dying all over the place.

And then the media not only takes Greta Thunberg and

takes her claims seriously, but promotes her so that she is influencing generations of other kids to be able to do that.

As if she's some kind of expert.

Right.

She's not.

Knows nothing about this.

And she's a kid with lots of issues.

The family has tons of issues.

It's like, you know,

you put someone like that in the spotlight, and

you're risking all sorts of things.

And she's done real damage

to kids.

Kids believe this stuff now.

Well, the damage was originally done to her, and now she's doing it to others.

Yep.

Because it was her parents who got her off on this freak train to begin with.

Oh, yeah.

I think it was the second show I did on Studios America.

The show's been going on for three years now, by the way.

Three years of Studios America.

And I think it was the second episode of the show was about Greta's parents.

And just went through.

First of all, there's some really funny stuff.

And

it's a weird cast of characters.

Let's go.

But

they did.

They put their kids.

We put her, you know, who's she obviously has emotional problems, right?

Like, you know, she has emotional and plus, isn't she, she's

all sorts of struggles

when it comes to just day-to-day life.

Autistic, maybe?

Possibly.

Yeah.

I don't remember all the details of it, but I, you know, she's dealing with a lot.

And to put her in this,

to praise this idiocy that she's talking about and bringing to the public.

And now there's kind of been this movement.

Okay.

All right, we're all set.

I guess we're all set now with the Greta thing.

You know, she hasn't been getting all the press lately.

I don't know if you've noticed this.

She seems to be too old today.

She's getting too old.

She's no longer the cute little kid.

Now she's like, you know, in a teenager, they want to ignore.

She's been critical of some of the wrong people, right?

Like, you know, she look, she legitimately believes she's going to die from this.

This is real to her.

Yes.

And so

when

the power players in the Democratic Party and on the left use her, her.

They use her to win elections, to get control of the economy, for all of these other reasons.

She really believes it.

Of course, she was a child, so she probably believed lots of other things that weren't true, but she believes it.

So now she's started to criticize people on the left, and now they don't want to promote her anymore, and they don't want her in

front of the cameras as much.

But they're not doing what she thinks needs to be done, and that's stopping all

CO2

and just stopping the economy.

Starting to stop the economy and stop industry.

And when people say, like, hey,

we can build solar panels and that will grow our economy.

And she correctly calls that out as nonsense.

No, you can't.

No, you can't.

If you want to do that,

we got to shut down the economy completely.

And yeah, there's going to be lots of economic pain, but we need to, or else I'm going to die.

Right.

Is her point.

Now, she's not correct about the conclusion there, but she's correct that you can't do it the way this happy-go-lucky way that left promotes.

Ah, we'll just create some new jobs.

We'll just make solar panels here.

Everyone will have clean energy.

Go out and buy an electric car.

It's no big deal.

And what's amazing is that sometimes they admit that.

Yeah.

Sometimes they say, Yeah, the Paris Accords, but it's just all symbolic.

Wait, what?

You want everybody to abide by the Paris Accords, but it was all symbolic?

Yeah, that won't be enough.

Oh,

okay.

Well, what will be enough?

Shutting down our society.

That's what the end goal is of this, just to bring the United States of America to its knees so that everybody else in the world can catch up to it.

That's the only way they'll catch up to us is if we shut everything down

because we're too far ahead of them.

It's legitimately what they want to happen.

I mean, look at this.

This is a bigger movement than, as everybody on earth freaking knows, this is not about

the

climate.

Elon Musk is the ultimate example of this.

They said forever we have to go to electric cars.

They said we must go to electric cars.

We have to.

It's the greatest existential threat we've ever seen in our entire lives.

This is,

we absolutely must do this at any cost.

We are all going to die.

Millions of people are going to die in Bangladesh if we don't do something about this.

And then he said, you know, maybe we should have free speech.

You're like, this guy's the devil.

Yeah, sure, he built an electric car company

and he's building spaceships to

escape the planet in case global warming really hits us.

And he's building, you know, a technology that can help

AI that would help scrub the atmosphere of carbon.

And all of these incredible projects he's working on.

But he said conservatives should be able to tweet that they like low taxes, so he's Satan.

I mean, has there ever been a more clear example?

They don't care about the climate at all.

None of this means anything to them.

It's all BS.

And especially since they know full good and well, just like we do, that the electric car, by the way, is not an answer for our problems.

The electric car, with all the mining you have to do, with all of the preparation to build the car, with everything that comes together and that stinking battery that's in the car, worse for the environment than carbon-oriented cars.

I mean, it is not the answer.

No, I mean, not at all.

I should tweet this at Studios America if you want to follow it.

I'll tweet it later on today.

But there's a,

I watched a TED Talk from an environmentalist, and you know, TED Talks are, you can always get into them.

You know, I don't care what the topic is.

So I clicked on it, and the guy's talking about electric cars.

And I'm like, oh, this will be interesting.

Let's see what he has to say.

I think I saw this too.

Yeah, I like watching sometimes the other.

You want to watch the other side.

You understand what their arguments are.

Are they good?

Are they bad?

What's the evidence they have?

But he was surprised he went the other way.

Yeah, he was like, you know what?

Actually, it's not time for electric cars.

We're not ready for them.

And he goes through it.

They're harmful to the environment.

He shows the details on it.

And I, depending on, you know, there's a bunch of different variables he outlines, but it's something like over a hundred thousand miles of driving an electric car before you even break even.

And that's if

you have, if you're fine driving an electric car that only goes, you know, 120 miles, which most people aren't.

I mean, most people don't want that.

They want a longer range one, like some of the cool cars that Elon Musk has built can go a lot farther than that, and certainly very fast.

And you go down that road and

you never make it up.

His point eventually he gets to is like, I think for the environment, hybrids are a good answer.

He's like, I think hybrids are much better for

the amount of technology we have right now because you can save some, but still make it useful for people.

And you don't have the cost of all the batteries.

You have a much smaller amount of battery.

Those two technologies are working together.

It's a big deal.

It's a big problem.

Yeah.

But like, you know, it is true.

There has been tons of research on this at this point.

And

it's kind of a joke, right?

It's kind of a joke, honestly.

And if you believe this,

seriously, they've been telling us this is the most important thing in the world for decades.

And a guy comes along with his own money and builds a company that does 30, 40 years of advancement in this field

without them really having to touch it other than some generous government subsidies that were involved.

We should know, but still, he did most of this work himself.

And

he said, I want to keep my company open during COVID, and I don't really like masks.

And they're like, holy crap, this guy's Satan.

We should excommunicate him from society.

They're trying to.

They're trying to.

They really are.

It's amazing to watch.

And to this representative who talks about the nightmares of her middle child, I love the Joe Bastardi response on Twitter.

If this is true, then it's because someone is guilty of child abuse.

Given life has never been better on planet Earth.

Tell your middle child, we're in a climate optimum with 1 112th the amount of death per capita from climate as 1930.

I love that.

I mean, people don't, people have no idea about these statistics.

They just buy what is sold to them all the time by the left.

Thank God and fossil fuels, he said.

And that is, I mean, so true and so accurate.

And we've talked about it.

You know, people don't, people aren't starving on this planet the way they once were when it was a little bit colder on this planet because it's warm enough to grow more food, which seems kind of like a good thing to some people.

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Thank you very much.

Thank you for regaling us with your vocal talents.

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It was really good.

They really love it.

They ask for it all the time.

Do they?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

There's been a lot.

I'd like to see some of those communiques.

Well, you know, they were all tweets, and Elon Musk deleted them.

Oh, that bad.

Shirk.

Why?

Well, like, he didn't want the truth to be out there.

Right?

He didn't want the truth to be out there.

All right.

Well, the truth of things is that Splash Mountain needs to go away at Disneyland.

at Disney World.

Finally, somebody's saying it's finally somebody's doing it.

It's been around since 1989, this racist ride

at

all their theme parks, and they are closing it permanently, finally, on January 23rd.

How many people have died because of Splash Mountain?

You know, just the horror of how racist it is.

Oh, okay, not from like the actual fall.

No, not from the actual fall.

No, nobody's died from that that I know of.

But you got to believe hundreds, if not thousands, have died because of the horror when they realize it's based on Song of the South.

I had no idea it was based on Song of the South until this story came out.

Is it just a freaking ride where you go down a hill and splash in water?

That's what it is.

No one cares that it has anything to do with Song of the South.

No, right?

That's exactly right.

So fans of the ride created their own petition and gathered about 100,000 signatures saying, hey, please don't end Splash Mountain.

And they're going to anyway.

Now, Splash Mountain itself never included depictions of slaves or any racist elements.

And it's based solely on historical African folk tales that families of all ethnicities have been enjoying for nearly a century.

So it wasn't racist in any way.

It actually really wasn't based on Song of the South because they didn't do anything, Song of the South-ish, that was, you know, bad in it.

I mean, I think some of the language and maybe the treatment of minorities in Song of the South, you know, it doesn't fit certainly with what's going on today, but that wasn't included

in the ride.

Right.

The ride really had nothing to do with that.

It had nothing to do with it.

It's a bunch of rabbits and

foxes.

It was what my recollection.

They basically cheaply branded this ride with a popular

movie at the time, right?

Like they were just like, hey, well, Song of the South, people like that.

Right.

Let's pop, let's call it a Song of the South ride.

But it wasn't.

It was just a water ride.

And in 1989,

you could do that because we weren't as sensitive as we are now.

Now, we're just, I mean, we can't handle anything.

No.

We really can't handle anything.

And like, you know,

we get to this point where every there was i think mindy kaling is the uh was the person who recently said this but she was on the office uh as well as steve core of course steve corell said this before you can't even make the office now here's one of the greatest shows of all time they think you couldn't they think you could not she said it now too um steve corell said it years ago you couldn't do it and you know it's sad that you couldn't do it right like one of the greatest television shows of all time how much do we have for one minute we should come back and talk about this a little bit because

I'm fascinated by this because I love The Office.

I love it.

And, you know, people say, well, after Steve Carell left, it sucked.

Honestly, still really good.

It wasn't as good, of course.

I think that's true.

But it was still good.

It was one of those shows that you'd be like, well, it's just not as good.

If you compare it to the first few seasons when Steve Carell is on there, right?

You are correct.

And then do another thing, though.

Compare it to the other shows on television.

Yeah.

And then you're like, holy crap, this is a great show.

It really was, even to the end, really, really funny and had, you know, it's great moments.

But so much of it now would need to be deleted.

I mean, they have deleted some of it, but that's amazing.

I'll tell you about a couple moments from this and Mindy Kaylee's comments coming up as well.

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Yes, that's true.

So

this situation going on with Mindy Kaling of the office, she was, of course,

Kelly on the office.

You would

remember her.

Kind of the bubbly,

sometimes idiot

in the office who is constantly obsessed with hooking up with her on and off boyfriend.

Okay, yes.

So she's also a very accomplished

actor and also like producer and writer.

She wrote a lot of the most famous office episodes.

I didn't know she wrote any of them.

Yeah.

She did.

She's one of them.

Yeah, she wrote a bunch of the big ones.

And she's also went on to produce other shows and has you know a really big career she says uh this about the office she says the office just couldn't be made today why that show is so inappropriate now she said the writers who i'm still in touch with now we always talk about how so much of that show probably couldn't we couldn't make now tastes have changed and honestly what offends people has changed so much now

and i think that's actually one of the reasons the show is popular because people feel like there's some kind of fearless something kind of fearless about it or taboo that that it talks about on the show

and i think there's two ways to make a comment like that right like there's a the way of steve corell made this comment that's very similar one years ago where he said you know look i just don't think they would make it i don't think it would get green lit i don't think we could do have was he lamenting that fact or is it lamenting or is it Thank God, because we've now made brave changes to embrace all of the LGBTQ or whatever, you know,

whatever sentence and series of abbreviations you go into after saying something like that is is the typical way this goes.

Now, Kaling's definitely liberal.

I mean, Corell is liberal.

Everybody in Hollywood is liberal.

Just about.

We basically know that.

Now, Carell in 2018, they talked about potentially doing a reboot of the series.

And Corell said, I'll tell you, no.

The show is way more popular now than it was on the air, and I just can't see it being the same thing.

And I think most folks would want to do the same thing, but it wouldn't be.

Ultimately, it was probably left best to leave well enough alone and just let it exist as what it was.

It's really sad.

Carell continued, you'd literally have all the same writers, the same producers, the same directors, the same actors, and even with all those components, it still wouldn't be the same.

But I love the show.

It was the most exciting time.

These people are my friends, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

However, he talked about how it was not,

just content-wise, wouldn't it exist?

And I'll give you an example of this.

There's a podcast called Office Ladies, which is hosted by Pam from the office.

These people's names, who knows, and Angela from the office.

Those are the two hosts of it.

And they go through and they do an episode-by-episode recap and talk about behind-the-scenes stuff and all the things that went on.

And I don't know.

They're very pleasant people, generally, and likable people.

And

it's like you can listen to a hundred podcasts a day like we do, right?

We do podcasts a day talking about the news, and there's a lot there to just, you just feel terrible about.

And it's like nice to remember a show that I really liked and two people that I like talking about things things that I like, you know, and it's like it feels a it's like a it's like I really like it.

It's just enjoyable to listen to anyway.

So they were talking about an episode from the office, which I do remember.

And there's one storyline in the office in this particular episode where Steve Carell is trying to hook up or date

a woman.

I think they meet in a bar and him and Dwight meet these two Asian women in a bar.

And I guess they're friends or something.

And the plot line is: Steve Carell can't tell them apart.

So

they go to the bathroom and they come back, and he can't remember which one he was.

It would be a problem.

Right?

He can't remember which one he was with.

He can't tell them apart.

So

it escalates, it escalates, and he doesn't know what to call one of them.

He doesn't know which one to sit next to.

It's like a very awkward, very office moment.

And it kind of

crescendos to the point where he takes a magic marker and marks one of their arms so he can remember which one he's with.

Which

is

very, very offensive

in a way.

If you're not an adult, if you can't think for yourself, it's offensive.

Yes.

And here's the thing.

Was the point of that storyline,

all Asians look alike,

or

was the point of that storyline that Steve Carell is a Neanderthal and is a...

Of course, that's the the point.

That's the point.

It's making fun of people who would go through this thought process.

It's making fun of not Asian people for looking alike, but Steve Carell for being an idiot in this role.

Yeah.

It's always Sunny in Philadelphia still does this to this day.

And they do all sorts of things.

They've had episodes.

This is still running.

Still running.

It's the longest live-action running sitcom in history.

No.

Yeah.

Wow.

I ever say that.

I question it, but I'm succeeded by The Simpsons?

The Simpsons, yeah.

The Simpsons.

Yeah, they do say the live-action thing.

And I think, too, it hasn't had as many episodes, certainly, as other sitcoms, but it's been airing for a very long time.

Wow.

And so, like, they've had episodes.

There's a famous episode where

it's called D-Day,

which is focused on the character D.

And D is a...

You know, she's someone who wants to be very famous, and she has these really bad characters.

And the point is she's very shallow and she wants, she thinks she's really good at being hilarious and a comedian and she's not.

And so she has these terrible characters.

She tries to bust out.

And many of them are based on really just shoddy racial stereotypes.

Right.

And they're not even like, they're just awful.

Like the point is that these people are shallow and

moronic and bad people dealing with things in bad ways.

But are you still doing it?

Mock them and laugh at them.

They're still doing that kind of stuff.

They are still doing that kind of stuff.

But that episode in particular was pulled because at one point she darkens her skin.

And that was called Blackface and blah, blah, blah.

You know how that thing goes.

Now, it's always setting in Philadelphia.

South Park can get away with this stuff at some level.

They're deep cable shows.

Right?

These are not network shows.

The office, I don't think you could get away with it at this point.

But

anyway,

the office ladies episode I was talking about got to the point where they're talking about this episode where Steve Carell tries to date the Asian woman, can't tell them apart, marks them with a marker.

And again, I really like both of these women talking.

I really like this podcast.

But

they talk about it like,

you know, I'm ashamed.

that we did this.

Oh, geez.

I'm ashamed that

we indulged these stereotypes.

And they have this like moment of regret about these jokes.

And like, even at the time, we felt uncomfortable.

And I just, this was wrong.

It was wrong.

And it's really, it's the only time I've really heard them do this type of thing.

It's why it stands out to me.

But it's like, stop.

Stop it.

Yeah.

Stop it.

There was nothing wrong with

mocking in these.

I mean, like, we have shows that mocked Hitler's Germany.

Hogan's heroes, the producers, we mocked

the Holocaust.

And you know, one of the reasons why everyone outside of Kanye West and whatever room he's in seems to agree on the Holocaust, one of the reasons why it's been so shunned by society is because of that mockery.

We were all able to come together and say, this is a completely ridiculous thing.

And let's all mock it and ridicule those views.

That was something society used to do well.

Now we all are terrified of it.

And you know, the other thing is that the office ran till 2013.

Okay, so it went from 05 to 13.

So we have changed so much as a society so quickly.

It's not even 10 years since that went off the air, and you couldn't do it today.

That shows just the light speed that we're changing.

Yeah, Pat.

This is a great thing.

I just, a great example of this.

It's always sunny in Philadelphia.

I just mentioned it.

They've had several

episodes pulled from their catalog.

You can't, if you go to Hulu or wherever it's playing,

these episodes won't be there because there's something in there that was too offensive, supposedly.

One of the episodes that got pulled is from like season 13 or 14 of the show.

They're only on like season 15 or 16.

So like,

it was just a couple of seasons ago where this was all approved

2019 or 2020.

Yeah,

maybe it was 2018.

It was somewhere right around there.

And they pulled the episode, and it's just like one of the more recent seasons.

This is not even going now from things that happened in 2005, and we update what we're thinking, and we get nervous, and we pull Splash Mountain rides because of Song of the South.

This is stuff that was approved by corporate boards two years ago,

and now we're deeming too

offensive for people to even view and judge for themselves.

Outrageous.

Completely ridiculous.

Outrageous.

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Oh, man.

There's no doubt about that.

Oh, wow.

So beautiful.

We're saying things currently that will get this episode pulled, but man, is she spicy?

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All right, we're going to get into this

Rachel Levine situation.

But first, Stu just found an interesting stat that we were talking about from the climate change situation.

Yeah, you mentioned the Paris Accord.

I meant to look this up.

If the Paris Accord...

The Paris Accord is just symbolic.

That's really what they'll admit it, and of course it's true.

If

the climate impact of all the

indicated cuts in carbon

actually all went through.

All countries do everything they're supposed to.

Which, of course, we know is not going to happen.

but all countries do everything they're supposed to to the T.

It would save,

if everything is right, all the science is right, no margin of error, everything, they nail it exactly, it would save us 0.048 degrees Celsius by 2100.

48 one hundredths of a degree by 2100.

Thus saving the planet, right?

No.

No.

48 one-thousandths of a degree.

Oh, yeah, 48 one-thousandths.

Right.

Not 48 one-hundredths.

It's not

a half of a degree here.

We're talking about 0.048 degrees.

That is outrageous.

So, anyway, just to bring it up.

But speaking of science,

I mean, it's scientifically proven that Rachel Levine, Admiral Levine, is perhaps the most beautiful woman on the planet.

And she had some things to say about science.

And here's what she said.

So I encourage all of you to think of yourselves as ambassadors to your communities.

Okay.

Ambassadors for science, ambassadors for compassion,

and ambassadors for care.

These conversations don't have to be limited or restricted to a medical setting.

Offered yourselves as informational resources, not just for youth, but for school teachers, principals, school boards, professional organizations, recreation centers,

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Our task is to educate the public in as many forms as possible.

And we need to have these conversations that question the assumptions that are underlying today's attacks on trans people.

Pushing back the veil of ignorance demands this extra effort.

And this is the challenge before our profession.

For almost 40 years now,

I have considered an honor to be a doctor.

I believe in our role as healers.

I believe in our role as truth-tellers.

Truth-tellers.

And the truth that we need to confront now is that medicine and science are being politically perverted around this country.

Are they?

It destroys human lives.

We have reached a tipping point for the role in medicine in civic life for the health and well-being of LGBTQI plus youth and other Americans.

LGBTQI plus

those who attack our community.

I mean, that is so outrageous because what she's saying is the exact opposite of what's actually happening.

The reverse of reality.

She or they, whatever pronoun he, she, or they use,

is the one who's denying science and manipulating everybody else, trying to get us to believe that version of science, which is just not reality.

And she, by the way, did not say

the science was being manipulated.

I believe she said that it was being perverted.

Perverted.

Which is a perfect word to describe what is going on here.

And I will say, it was hard for me to really get through what she was saying there because she's just so hot.

The problem here, if you're listening on radio.

I mean, that's really superficial, Stu, but I understand what you're saying.

I got to admit.

I understand what you're saying.

We're here telling the truth.

We don't want to pervert the truth here.

We do not.

And, you know, if you're listening on radio,

you are not seeing the video along with this.

And to your credit, you were probably able to focus on what she was saying.

I can only focus on how hot she is.

It's the only thing that really connects with me here.

She's so incredible.

I mean, she puts, you know.

You're just being honest.

Kate Beckinsale puts her to shame.

Right.

Margot Robbie.

Margot Robbie.

Spit on her.

Disgusting.

Yeah.

It actually physically sickens me to think about Margot Robbie right now

when I consider the beauty of Rachel Levine.

It's transcendent.

It's transcendent.

It is.

It really is.

Yeah, you're right.

I am revolted by

making

it.

Oh, man.

No.

It's disgusting i just threw open my mouth a little bit so yeah me too

all right well that was fun hopefully glenn returns tomorrow

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