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You know, a lot of people have been debating whether or not the overturning of Roe v.

Wade

was worth it.

And I mean, I know I've heard you say this, Stu.

I've said it on my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens right before this particular program or anytime you want on

demand.

But of course it was worth it.

If it saves babies' lives, it's worth a few seats in Congress.

What?

Yeah.

Wait, I don't understand.

Staggering.

But elections are important.

And they are.

They are important.

They are.

What's more important than an election?

Could it be

human life?

Yeah, babies' lives?

Yeah, yeah.

It's fascinating.

I mean, first of all, you got to start at the beginning.

Was it really the cause of what happened during the election?

And maybe we should go even a little more basic than this, Pat.

And I would love to get your take on this.

The right is, generally speaking, really frustrated with the results from this election.

And I think with some good reason, I think everyone kind of expected and hoped for better results than we got.

Yeah.

So I get that.

But we got caught up in the furor of the last few months because before this, nobody thought the Republicans were going to regain the Senate.

Yeah, you know, in fact, after Dobbs was overturned,

there was high hopes on the left that they were going to win the House.

Right.

And look, they almost did.

There's no doubt about it.

This was not a blowout by any means.

But like Republicans cleared the hurdle they needed to clear, which was get the House so you can stop the worst instincts of the Biden administration.

They had to clear that hurdle for this not to be a catastrophe.

Unfortunately, they did.

They did that.

Right.

They got the house.

Now,

you can look at this and say, okay, well,

this wasn't the biggest wave election that we were hoping for.

I mean, when you look at wave election, it's a little bit weird to look at it as far as just seats gained, right?

Because,

look, you know, yes, 2010 was a wave, right?

Where you got 60-something seats, but they were starting from a much worse position.

Like, they started at like 100, I don't know, 179 seats or something before that election.

They were, they had been devastated in 2008.

So they got that.

Yes, they made major gains in 2010.

They made solid gains in 2014 as well.

And this one, you know, a much smaller gain when it comes to seat total.

But look, the main thing is you got control.

That's what you had to do.

You had to make it so it was not unified government behind Joe Biden so they could get two bills passed.

Which means, and just getting control, committee chairmanships.

Yep.

It means being able to stop bills.

You don't have to pass any of the Biden agenda and the investigations that are going to come from this.

Right.

And you might say, well, that's not enough.

But you have to understand what was the upside here.

The best case scenario.

The best case scenario was

control of the House and the Senate.

But still, you weren't going to be able to do anything with that.

Now, the one.

You want to stop certain things.

The only thing that they...

Judicial appointments.

And that's a big one.

But that's really the only thing that they had a chance for that they didn't get.

Now, I think, and we've talked about this on the air before as well, there was a possibility if they did well in this election and got to 54, maybe 55 seats, which was maybe the upside of what people were hoping for, if they were able to do that, there was a chance in 2024 at a filibuster-proof majority, which would be very, very difficult now.

That would be, you know, because they only got to maybe 50, maybe only 49 seats in the Senate.

And this last race with Herschel Walker is really important.

But that being said, they cleared the lowest hurdle.

And, you know,

the theory here from this politico op-ed is basically like, look,

is there some evidence that

abortion and the overturning of Roe versus Wade was one of the reasons Republicans underperformed?

And I think you can look at this.

If you look at the evidence, there's some evidence pointing to that being part of it.

Like, you know, the New York Times did a thing about this, and you'd expect the New York Times to blame abortion here.

But

they had some relatively compelling evidence showing where certain states where abortion really wasn't on the ballot, there was no risk of abortion rights going away.

In those states, Republicans tended to perform pretty well.

New York is an example of this, right?

There was no,

obviously New York's not getting rid of abortion rights.

You know, they want you to be able to abort, I think,

teenage years.

Is that the current line for New York?

I'm not sure.

Yeah, I think 17.

17.

Okay.

So once you can vote, they can't abort you.

Right.

Because they want their voters.

Yes.

So, but up to 17, 364 days, they can abort you.

And that's not going to change in New York.

So abortion really wasn't much of a topic there.

And there, Democrats did very poorly.

Republicans did very well.

There are other pieces of it.

In Virginia, a state that didn't have a gubernatorial race, nothing really on the ballot for abortion, Republicans did pretty well.

Florida.

Florida, yes, Ron DeSantis is a big part of this story, but one of the things they did was pass a 15-week ban.

So that storyline's kind of already gone.

They've already had their abortion debate.

They had a 15-week ban.

And so that one wasn't really on the ballot.

Republicans did very well.

Texas, there wasn't going to be much of a change in Texas.

Republicans did very well.

In purple states, where abortion could go either way,

Democrats tended to do much better in places like Pennsylvania, Arizona, for example.

And so that was part of the theory.

Do I buy that entirely?

Not really.

I think it might be part of the story,

but do you think, Pat, that this was the determinative factor in this election?

Determinative?

Maybe not.

No.

I think it factored in.

Factored in.

Maybe one of many things.

I don't care.

Candidate quality is another one.

That was an issue.

If we would have had a better candidate than Dr.

Oz in Pennsylvania, for instance.

I think they easily defeat John Fetterman.

Yeah.

I mean, remember, Dr.

Oz was the better of the two candidates in the race.

He outperformed the gubernatorial candidate by almost 10 points.

So

that was not, again, that's a big, I think that's a bigger part of this.

But let's just say, Pat, for argument's sake, let's say for argument's sake, it was actually

all abortion.

Let's say the only reason Republicans would have had a wave election, they would have had 230 seats in the House, and they would have had 53 senators.

And the only reason that didn't happen was we overturned Roe versus Wade.

Yeah.

I'm giving that to you on a silver platter.

Do you take that trade?

Do you take the trade where you overturn Roe versus Wade, but you lose three or four seats in the Senate and 15 seats in the House?

Okay, let me think.

Yes.

Wait, you didn't take much time on that.

I want to to make sure you get that enough time.

Okay, wait.

Yes.

I'm not rushing.

Okay, yes.

Okay.

So, yes.

Yeah.

It's absolutely an acceptable trade-off.

100%.

I would trade how many elections would you trade to overturn Roe versus Wade?

Right.

I mean, in theory, all of them, right?

Yeah.

Now, of course, eventually you lose enough elections and the Constitution gets amended with abortion in it.

So you can't lose forever, I suppose.

But like, in theory, I don't care how many.

An election?

Yeah.

Who cares?

Honestly, who cares?

You're talking about 63 million lives.

Right.

Right?

Worldwide, it's 1.5 billion.

I mean, that is staggering.

Even hearing that number is so incredibly despicable.

But still, here in the United States, where these elections might do some difference.

And Roe versus Wade counts.

63 million lives

should be here or not because of abortion.

And the fact that we can decrease that number by almost...

I mean,

the first month, they talked about potentially 10,000 abortions

avoided.

And this is before a lot of states changed their laws.

It took them time after Roe versus Wade, and there was a waiting period and all these other things.

Even with people changing from state to state and wanting to go, about 10,000 lives, they believe were saved in that first month.

Incredible.

Yeah.

Has there been a more impactful Republican policy ever?

Most of them are terrible and don't do anything.

Right.

Like if they, if the entire policy from beginning to end was to save 10,000 lives, it would be the best thing the Republicans have ever done.

No question.

And it's like, it's inexplicable to think you should care about some Senate, some Senate seat or some

congressional seat if this is what is on the table.

And, you know, Pat, I remind.

I remind the people in the media trying to sort this out.

The point of being, of winning an election, is not to get Nancy Pelosi another year of $200,000 salary.

It is not so

some Republican, so Matt Gates can go to a nice dinner with

a lobbyist.

I don't know.

I'm just picking Matt Gates because I wanted to pick a Republican, but you get my point.

The point is for things like this

to win policy issues like this to make a difference, to save human lives like this.

You trade,

I can't even think of what the number would be when it comes to House seats or Senate seats to get that done.

It was a 50-year goal of the party.

And we didn't even think it was possible.

That's true.

Right up to, and including the day of the announcement.

Actually, it was leaked.

But

up until then, there was no way did I think Roe v.

Wade Wade was going to be overturned.

I didn't shoot that high for the Republican Party at any time in my lifetime.

I never thought they would do it.

This was like a miracle to us.

Yeah.

This was a miracle.

And yeah, for that miracle, I'd trade a few Senate seats.

What on earth do you try to win elections for?

Yeah.

Why do you do it?

Why do we care?

Why do people donate?

Why do people knock on doors?

Why do people show up at the polls?

For their babies.

To win issues.

To save little kids.

And is this the only issue?

No, but it is the most important.

Is there a more important issue that

you could care about than babies' lives?

I mean,

it seems ridiculous to have to say it.

I know.

Like, yes, I care about my tax rates.

Yeah.

Yes.

But as much as your babies?

No.

Right.

Do I want them to be 37% instead of 39.6?

Sure.

Of course.

That would be wonderful.

And yes, I care about those things.

They are important.

But I mean, we talk about like, hey,

you know,

CRT being taught in schools, at least the kids are alive.

Yeah.

Right?

I mean, yes, CRT being taught in school, really big issue.

We should really care about that.

Make sure we do not teach overtly racist content in our public schools.

Sure, important.

But you know what?

I think we got to make sure the kids are alive to hear it first.

Yeah, that's a good safety tip.

Yeah.

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You know, the expression,

if it saves one life,

how much more does that apply to 10,000?

10,000 lives, they estimated, were saved.

It was in the first month.

Yeah.

So

that's a pretty big deal.

That's a lot.

And, you know, we do look at these other topics, and they are very important.

But like the border, for example.

What do we care?

Why do we care about the border?

Well, we don't want, for example, people crossing the border and committing crimes.

Like, what if someone murders someone, like some criminal, drug dealer crosses the border, murders someone?

Well, yes, that's incredibly important.

But, like, if we don't let the person be alive, we don't even, it never becomes an issue, I suppose.

We don't, that person didn't even get a chance to create a life in which others mourned when they died.

I mean, it's such a fundamental issue and so obvious

that it's,

of course, you take it.

And

when it comes down to, I think like there's a real,

this is something that is being created right now by the media pet.

What they want to do is communicate to people on the right, Republicans in power, that if you go hard on the abortion issue and you try to say, hey, we shouldn't be killing any babies, sorry.

If you do that, it's going to cost you politically.

And they know that these politicians are incentivized to keep themselves in power.

So they're hoping they will create this fear among Republicans that they will run from the abortion issue.

And that's because that's what they care about.

They have this cult, this cult where ending babies' lives is the most important thing you could ever talk about.

And it cannot go away.

That right to end babies' lives can never go away.

Got to be the most important thing ever.

And like, I will be honest with you.

Like, I mean, you know, Florida passed a 15-week abortion ban.

And like, look, is that better than the situation that we had before?

Sure, 100%.

It's better.

It's better than what we used to have.

And I'm glad they passed something.

But like, did we fight 50 years to eliminate 6% of abortions?

No.

Was it a 50-year battle so that 94% of abortions could remain in place?

Was that what we were doing?

Because if that's what we were doing, we were really kind of wasting our time, maybe.

Maybe not, actually, now that I think about it, still a lot of lives.

But still, that can't possibly be the end goal of this.

Yeah, I know.

I understand that maybe that's all you can get done in Florida.

It's at least seemingly used to be a purple state.

It doesn't seem like it is anymore.

Now it's pretty much Alabama.

Yeah.

But hey, like, you know, look, I don't know that a 15-week the Lindsey Graham bill of like, let's just do 15 weeks so we don't have to talk about it.

People keep asking me uncomfortable questions about babies' living, so please let's just pass.

I don't like that.

I don't like being asked questions about babies' living.

It makes me feel uncomfortable.

How dare people ask a U.S.

senator about babies' lives?

How dare they?

If we just banned 6% of them, then we don't have to talk about it anymore.

Okay, thanks, Lindsey.

By the way, can I remind people that Lindsey Graham is a senator from South Carolina?

If Lindsey Graham was the senator from Maine, I'd say, all right, we got a Susan Collins.

I got it.

You know, of course.

Do we, should we really have a...

Let me have you in another example, Pat, you might think of.

Did you know?

That Mitt Romney is up for re-election in 2024?

Yes.

Did you know that?

I do know that.

Did you know we have Mike Lee as a senator in Utah?

Were you aware of this?

It shows what they could have.

They could have somebody really good.

Instead, they have someone with one of the lowest conservative review scores in the entire Senate in Utah.

Well, his name is well known.

So what?

How about getting somebody who actually cares about conservative values in that seat?

And that's something that, like, I

understand when people say, well, Susan Collins, like, you know, that's all we can get in Maine.

And that may very well be true.

And honestly, there have been times, like, for example, some of these bills that went through the Senate.

I was happy to have Susan Collins in there instead of a Democrat.

And when it was a 50-50 Senate,

you could have easily lost that if you had a Democrat in that seat.

So sometimes you got to deal with crap.

You know, no offense to the Collins family, but her voting record is crap.

And so sometimes you got to deal with that in a state like Maine.

You don't have to deal with that in Utah.

You don't have to deal with that in South Carolina.

You don't have to deal with that, Pat, in Texas when you have John Cornyn as one of your two senators.

There's no reason for such things.

And yet, so many states have that.

South Carolina, Utah, Texas, you just mentioned, Alaska.

Why?

Yeah.

Why, why?

Murkowski, really?

You know, we couldn't do so much better.

When one out of five babies are aborted in this country, I mean,

it's a Holocaust.

Let's just call it what it is.

That is, you know,

what else has taken taken 63 million lives?

Yeah, like, for example, you know, we talked to, I know you talk about them as well, pre-born, you know, pre-born.com/slash do.

You can go there and donate if you, if you wish.

This is not a paid commercial.

Uh, but like, they're doing incredible work on this front.

And they point this out when they talk about this issue, that one out of five babies never gets the chance to see the outside of a womb.

How on earth can that be a thing in a civilized country?

How can that possibly be true?

And yet it is.

That is not okay.

And you know what?

You got a trade.

I'm so

sorry we lost District 18

if that's what happened.

But I'll take that trade any day.

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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn, and joined by Jeffy.

To chill off that a little bit.

Hey, Jeff.

How are you doing?

I just wanted to stop in.

I want to stop in because in light of uncertainty around Twitter

and out of an abundance of caution, I want to come on and say that I'm pausing my Twitter account at JeffyJFR

right now.

Wow.

Really?

Wow.

Now, we should be clear.

We didn't ask you.

Yeah, well, they've reinstated Trump and the Babylon B.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Matthew Griffin.

And

Stan, Project Veritas.

Not only that.

Security concerns, Stu.

Security concerns.

You have security concerns.

I do have security concerns.

And what about them asking Twitter employees to work?

Right.

I mean, they not only work, they asked them to work extremely hardcore.

Yeah.

I'm pausing.

You can't abide it.

There are lines in our society.

You can ask someone to work, and

the proper way to ask them is to ask them to work occasionally.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Moderately

and

not always all the time.

You know what I mean?

I think it's too much to ask for them to work while they're at work.

Yeah, while they're at work.

It's too much to ask them to work that whole time.

Yeah,

you can ask them to come in.

You can't ask them to come in once a month.

Okay, once a month.

All right.

For a meeting.

Okay.

The rest of the time they should be at home.

Why can't we do the meeting on

Skype or Zoom?

I'm not saying you should do this.

I mean, just for the savings, as far as the climate goes, you should not ask them to come in.

Right.

But at all.

I'm saying legally,

you are able to ask them to come in once a month.

Now, there should be still food available for them if they decide to go to the house.

Of course, the chef never gets a day off.

That's true.

The chef never gets a day off.

No, no, nor should he or she.

None of the people complaining about their work conditions ever care if the chef gets a day off.

No, they do not.

They don't care about that at all.

In fact, they'd rather the chef not have a day off.

No.

You should be there.

If they want to come in at midnight and work the overnight, there better be prime rib being

carved right in front of them.

I'm still better be there with my coffee.

Yes, exactly.

Okay.

Okay, so now we should point out, for people who don't know, Jeff Fisher, host of

Chew in the Fat, is a man known throughout all of society

as a man who takes deeply difficult, principled stands

on an everyday basis.

Yes.

And the fact that he's willing to

pausing my Twitter account.

He's pausing his Twitter account.

Wow.

What a sacrifice.

I know.

What a sacrifice.

Okay, that's good.

I'm going to come back.

I'm going to start tweeting.

Yeah, Jeffy JFR is my Twitter account.

Oh, you're done now?

Jeff JFR.

That's a big enough stand.

Yeah, I'm good for it.

No problem.

That was a good enough.

Well, it's kind of like CBS, their stand.

Thank you.

CBS took a stand on Friday night that they were going to do the exact same thing that I just did.

Oh, wow.

And they lasted 40 hours.

Copycat.

And that is

pathetic.

40 hours.

What?

This is so weird.

Like, first of all, again, this guy should be a liberal icon.

We lose sight of this because he says, like, you know, things about free speech that I guess is now exclusively a right-wing issue.

Free speech each.

Which, by the way, thank you for that left.

Like, thank you for giving that one to us.

We'll take it.

We'll take it.

We're excited about that.

But, like, because he says things about free speech, he's now some conservative, I guess.

The guy who created the largest electric car company in the world.

And

created a space rocket company so we can leave the Earth and live on Mars.

In this case, global warming gets really bad.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

That's a big part of the reason why he's doing it.

So that guy.

That guy who's been berating us about climate all this time is a right-wing hero because he he wants people to be able to tweet their jokes.

But not Alex Jones, my friend.

Not Alex Jones.

That's true.

He's a hard no on Alex.

This is ridiculous.

Elon.

Elon is,

I generally speaking, like the guy because I like the fact that he's sort of a billionaire in the way that I would want to be a billionaire if I were a billionaire, which is just doing all the crazy things you want with no care of the consequences.

You know, like,

so what?

Like, I'm going to make, you know, I'm selling flamethrowers now.

Sound flamethrowers.

Okay.

That's not what you're.

Okay.

Like, I like that.

You got any perfume?

Did you purchase anything?

I did not.

I did not.

He comes up with a joke, and the next day, it's like a feature in his car, right?

Like, it's like, like,

there's some parts of that that I think are just funny.

And, like, it's like how you'd want to do it.

I think I'll bike Twitter now.

Yeah.

It's going to be 44 billion.

Yeah.

It's all right.

Like, look, no one hates the Dallas Cowboys more than the person speaking.

I literally despise everything about this team.

However, I will say that one of the criticisms is like, oh, Jerry Jones is just so involved.

He's involved with this team.

He's always making these moves.

He's got to not be involved.

Screw you.

I paid how many billions of dollars to own this thing?

I'm going to do whatever I want.

If I want to sign Megan Fox to be a wide receiver because I think she's hot, I'm going to do it.

Actually, I'm not opposed to that.

I'm not opposed to that.

See?

I'm not opposed to that.

I should do that.

Right.

What do you mean I don't want to be?

And that's the same thing with him.

So I like that about him.

Yeah.

But like,

this whole thing that he's, he's the icon of free speech.

I mean,

like, I don't know.

I don't know if that's true.

Right.

Like, I,

he, because he really, his stance was basically like, well, the Sandy Hook stuff was really bad, so therefore I'm not going to let him off.

For the kids, right?

He's, he's saying that.

That's why I won't.

He's been a hard no on Alex no matter what.

Right.

And, you know, look, it was really bad.

I, you know, I tend to agree with that analysis, though, I mean, he has apologized for it.

He's been sued for billions of dollars.

I don't know.

What else is he supposed to do?

That's the argument to the people that are arguing to Elon to let him back on.

It's like, dude,

I thought you were free speech.

What are we doing?

He's apologized.

He said he's sorry.

You've got other liars.

I don't know, Joe Biden, Donald Trump.

On Twitter, you've let back on.

What's going on?

Yeah,

people from across the spectrum don't necessarily understand his line, which is, again, it is a difficult job.

Right.

To run one of these tech companies, if you're going to have this rule where you say, oh, well, I'm going to moderate certain content.

You're never going to get that line right.

It's never going to happen.

Correct.

It seems to me there's a pretty bright line.

If you're running for president of the United States, you should be able to get an account.

Like, honestly,

if you're just some guy who wants to just

run for president just because you want to tweet terrible racist things,

pretty much you should just be able to be on a loud on Twitter.

A public official should be on there.

We should know what they're thinking.

Absolutely.

I don't know why the Democrats don't want Trump on.

I mean, it's like the best thing that could happen to Democrats is having Donald Trump on Twitter.

Absolutely.

I think that's a hidden, they really want him on.

You'd think?

I think it is.

I think, you know, publicly, oh, we hate him and we don't want him on Twitter.

But secretly, they want him.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I think so too.

I mean, their life revolved around his family.

And you know,

the whole thing about Alex Jones is some of us don't like what he says.

So what?

Well, that's free speech, right?

You have to be able to say things other people don't like.

Otherwise, there's no effort there.

There's no issue with free speech.

If everybody says beautiful, wonderful, fabulous things that everybody loves, there's no reason to get excited about free speech because nobody will ever deny you that.

And a lot of people claim that Alex had a lot of theories right.

Well, not that one, but yes, a lot of people do

claim that.

Some people do claim that.

But like, for example, think about this from our perspective for a second.

If your political opponent is doing things on social media that embarrass them or anger other people, other voters, moderate voters, you would encourage that behavior.

Like if AO, if you had a Switch right now that said AOC could stop tweeting, would you pull it?

I would be no.

I'd ask her to tweet twice as much.

The more AOC can tweet, the better it is for conservatives.

More Instagram lives.

Yes, keep talking about how you don't understand what a garbage disposal is.

Absolutely.

Keep going and blabbing as much as possible.

If AOC is the face of the Democratic Party, it's nothing but good for conservatives.

And like, look, I know a lot of people love Donald Trump.

There's tons of them.

We also understand that a lot of people hate him.

And a lot of moderates won't even consider voting for Republicans if he's the guy.

That's just true.

And so if you're a Republican, you, you know, I mean, a lot of Republicans say, please stop the tweeting.

Please, you're great.

You've got great policies.

You're doing great things.

Look at what you're doing on the border.

Keep doing that.

Stop the tweeting.

Stop just doing this.

It doesn't help.

Like, they just gave that to conservatives.

They said, okay, now I can't tweet anymore.

Yeah.

Now, look, it's sort of a silly debate because he just posted stuff on Truth Social, and then all the reporters screenshot it and post it on Twitter anyway.

Well, not CBS while they were taking their stand.

CBS.

And that was a solid 40 hours ago.

And not me when I took my stand.

Wow.

Congratulations.

I didn't report what Trump was saying.

You were that was brave.

Are you thinking about writing a book about the period where you paused your Twitter account?

That's a good idea, actually.

That is.

That is.

You too.

There is that.

Take a stand.

That's what reporters do, is they take these brave stances and then they write books about those brave stances.

That's a good idea.

Yeah, like that's what they did with Sam Bankfriend Freed.

Like, they all took these brave, like, this man.

A leader among men.

A man who is here to save our world, our planet.

Oh, what?

He screwed everybody out of $50 billion.

Oh,

we have a podcast about the rise and the fall of Sam Bankman Freed, hosted by the same reporter who built him up eight months ago.

Now that reporter is going to make millions of dollars telling you the story they should have told you originally.

Oh, that's just agonizing.

How do they even pull this crap off?

How much did you lose on FTX?

I had nothing.

I had nothing in FTX, thankfully.

Nothing.

Nothing.

I had not one dime in FTX.

I did not even have an account.

$8 billion.

Did you?

$8 billion.

$8 billion.

$8 billion.

Wow.

Oh, $8 million.

Hello.

A billion.

Oh, eight billion.

You have eight billion.

You had eight billion dollars in FTX.

And you're still here doing doing this, really?

It's interesting.

You did not live the lifestyle of a billionaire.

No, you know,

he tried to hide it.

Good for you.

You know, you're still, you know, you're like,

what's his face?

You know, from Omaha, the Omaha Oracle.

Oh, yeah, we have

Buffett.

Warren fat piece of crap Buffett.

He drives the same vehicle he drove in 1947,

and he lives in the same mud hut that he built in 1948.

He does live in the same mud hut.

It's only been remodeled a hundred times.

Slightly.

Yeah, slightly.

Now it's an 85,000 square foot mansion.

But it is.

But it's the same mud hut that he built in 1948.

Okay.

That's exactly what they do for Lord, man.

That's unbelievable.

It is.

All right, so I do have some good news, though.

Okay.

For you, Pat, and maybe for you, Stu, you know, it could bring you back to what you consider as the dark side now.

Researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health, and I love them, they've released a new study saying health effects associated with the consumption of unprocessed red meat.

Oh, yeah.

It's not as bad as everybody said it was.

Yeah, in fact, it may have little or no ill

health benefits.

We're back to eating meat.

No bad benefits.

First of all, Jeffy,

you don't even stop eating meat for the broadcast.

You literally eat like

steak fingers in the middle of your podcast.

Had you paused red meat?

There's little or no health risk.

Yeah.

Okay, so I'm just saying I haven't had any red meat today.

I eat it.

So now either way.

I think that's brave.

By the way,

this was the state of the science beforehand.

If you go back, remember we interviewed the guy,

Aaron Carroll, I think is his name.

He wrote a book called The Bad Food Bible, which is a great book

if you like reading about this sort of stuff.

But it goes through all of the dumb health advice we get on food, about these foods you're not supposed to eat, and goes through the actual evidence on them.

And there's a whole chapter on meat where it goes through all of the evidence and it shows little to maybe slightly positive effects for eating some red meat.

Like if you overdo it, yes, it can be a problem.

Well, that's everything, though.

Yeah, that is kind of, and that's kind of the whole

moderation.

Yeah, that should be the title of my book, Life Story.

It's everything in moderation.

Because it's the youngest you've done in your life.

That's how I live my life.

I would.

Pat.

Everything in moderation.

That's how I've lived my life.

I would 100% read a biography

from Jeffy.

Oh, my gosh.

It would be incredible.

Seriously, Jeffy.

You should do moderation.

You should do an autobiography of your life and tell real stories from your life.

I love it.

And it should be entitled Everything in Moderation.

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Big week, Thanksgiving coming up.

I know I'll be just over, going absolutely hardcore, Twitter style, when it comes to eating food this week.

Is there any like,

is there a special treat that one would recommend if you were going to like, let's say, go to someone's place that's making Thanksgiving dinner, you wanted to bring along something that they would enjoy as part of the meal, maybe maybe a dessert of sort.

Is there any recommendation

you might have?

As far as a dessert item.

Yeah, like that you could bring to like a big Thanksgiving gathering that everyone would be like blown away with.

Let me see.

You know, is there anything like hot cookies?

Oh, you know what?

Kexi cookies are a really good way to go.

Really?

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And you could get like the sweet potato pie cookies.

So delicious.

Made with real sweet potatoes.

Marshmallows, chocolate in there.

oh man fenta and then now we got the ginger cookies these are traditional in in my family for generations i think dating back to the late 30s really my wife has made these for christmas but now they're for everybody it's so good uh anyway plus we got a big sale coming up we'll tell you about uh that happens on friday black friday sale oh cool but if you want to get them right now uh kexi.com very cool thanks for asking that's that would that would be a recommendation that i might have you might have because i don't like pumpkin pie that much anyway you know the pie thing is, like, I'll always eat a slice of pumpkin pie and a slice of weep apple crumbs, the other big one we always have at Thanksgiving.

Okay.

And I'll always have some of them, no matter what, whether I feel like it or not.

I have to do it.

Yeah.

I feel like I owe it to the pie.

I don't know why.

I mean, like, God made pumpkins for a reason.

I can't, I mean, carving weird faces in them wasn't it.

It's almost like you're poking your fingers in the eye of the pilgrims if you don't.

Right.

Yeah.

Right?

It's like that.

That's how I feel.

Yeah.

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We still have all kinds of things to talk about.

I can't think of any of them right now off the top of my head, but I know there's a bunch.

Actually, our governor.

of the great state of Texas, Greg Gabbitt, has declared Joe Biden in violation of the U.S.

Constitution over the southern border, which is good because he's planning to take action at the border that the federal government just won't do.

He's actually talking about building the wall,

but by doing that with state funds rather than federal government funds because the federal government's not doing their job.

And so he has declared it an invasion, which allows then states to take over and handle the border themselves because the federal government isn't doing it.

That'll be interesting.

I know that this has not been

treated well in the courts, these efforts in the past.

I hope this one is treated a little bit better.

Yeah, hopefully, it'll come before a judge that Trump appointed, and maybe there'll be some common sense involved.

We'll see.

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So, this is what

the Biden administration says about the U.S.

border.

The border is secure.

Okay.

The border is secure.

The border, the border is secure.

Okay, that's Alejandro Mayorkas,

who is trying to sell us on the fact that the border is secure.

Now, only 250,000 people breached it last month.

Yeah.

They came in contact with the border agents anyway, and that's about

three to one

not coming in contact as come in contact.

So what does that say about the actual numbers of people that cross the border?

750,000 in a month, perhaps?

Give or take.

Give or take.

Yeah.

And this all comes from a man whose last name sounds like a flavor, a brand of Greek yogurt.

Yes.

Doesn't it?

Couldn't you go buy Majorkis?

I'd like the Majorkis.

Yeah.

Do you have phage or majorcis?

It just feels like one.

It does.

That's all I think about when I hear the guy's name is Greek yogurt.

I don't know why.

But it is, I think it probably should be thinking more about the border.

Probably.

He does not do a good job.

No.

This seems to be one of the top targets of Republicans.

And it should be because

it's asinine what they're saying about the border.

And that's why Governor Greg Abbott just sent a letter to President Joe Biden declaring Texas was escalating its border security efforts by invoking Article 1,

Section 10, Clause 3 of the U.S.

Constitution, which enables states to protect their own border against invasion, and in this case, by the Mexican drug cartels.

And

I'm sure the federal government will fight Texas every step of the way.

But

Abbott has even said he's going to build a border wall, a border wall like former President Trump was talking about building on the southern border.

Yeah, I mean, one of the things that was sort of lost in the election win with Ron DeSantis doing so well in Florida was how well Republicans did in Texas.

I mean,

Greg Abbott won by 12 points over Betto O'Rourke, a very well-funded opponent, even though obviously Betto is terrible in every way.

Yeah, he still had a lot of money.

Tons of money, lots of notoriety,

big-time name recognition, incredibly favorable treatment from the local media in every city in Texas.

Even in Texas, he gets great coverage.

And still, Abbott blew him out.

And, you know, it's interesting.

You look at

those two options.

What do they have in common?

Well, they took big stances on the border.

Yeah.

Both DeSantis and Abbott both were sending migrants up to random places to

make a statement.

Now, of course, the Arizona governor did that as well, but he was not running for

re-election.

But

he won his last election by, I think, 14 points,

Deucey, in Arizona.

But both in Texas and Florida, big wins for Republicans.

Big wins.

People love the fact, I certainly do, that they are giving New York a taste of what it's like to be a border city.

New York City has a taste, just a tiny little bite-sized taste, like the fun-size candies you get at Halloween.

Yeah, not even like the snack size, but the fun size.

The the fun size.

It's a little teeny, one bite and it's over.

They've had what, 24,000 illegals sent their way, which is, you know, I mean, that's significant, but they're having a cow over it.

They can't handle it.

They're trying to get Biden to declare an emergency for them because they're in such dire straits because a few thousand people have been sent their way.

I mean, try to deal with what Texas and Arizona and California have dealt with for 40 years now.

And that's a border that is nowhere near secure and a border that brings across a lot of drugs and even

some

people on the terror watch list, which it was 98 last month alone.

98 people on the terror watch list crossed the border.

Just the 98.

Yeah.

Nothing to worry about.

I mean, it would take thousands in order to do any harm, right?

No, wait.

There were 18 on

9-11.

So

I guess maybe they could do some damage.

I know the number is really far.

It's the highest crazy.

It's the highest they've ever encountered.

And

it used to be that, and it probably still is, where Democrats say, oh, that doesn't happen.

No, they're not.

There's no terrorism coming across the southern border.

Really?

98 in one month.

It's really amazing.

And it's got to stop.

And that's why Governor Governor Abbott is trying to take some measures in order to

calm it down a little bit.

And, you know,

Title 42 is about to end, too.

The COVID restriction on border crossings.

That's going to

transpire, expire, not transpire, but expire.

Is it December?

I think it's coming up here very shortly.

And so they won't be able to keep people in Mexico due to COVID.

That's over now.

So it's it's going to get even worse.

How ridiculous was that whole scenario where, okay, so

the pandemic occurs.

Of course, Mexico does basically nothing.

They take almost no steps whatsoever at the beginning of this, and they were absolutely ravaged by COVID.

I mean,

they weren't even testing.

Theirs was worse than ours.

Much.

Yeah.

I mean,

the official number is lower, but they were doing almost nothing to monitor it.

So we don't know how bad it actually got, but there were times where the entire country was testing positive at like 25%.

It was like insanely high.

And, you know, it's kind of what you'd expect in some ways of a country with an

inferior health system.

And not to say that ours was a magical success here, but we, you know, had

more luck than a lot of Central and Southern America did.

So the border was a pretty important part of keeping the virus under control.

You didn't want people crossing the border without bringing the virus into the country, especially if we got it under control.

And I guess, you know, at the time it was like, okay, well, let's say we do all these restrictions and it works perfectly and COVID goes away because everybody is masking up and

this is pre-vaccine, but like, you know, masking up and staying away from each other and social distancing and not going to work and not eating inside and all the things they wanted us to do.

Well, what happens when you leave the border wide open?

Nothing.

It doesn't do us any good at all because then you have people bringing in the virus anyway.

And we start this whole thing over and over again.

But the Democrats never cared about that.

In fact, they fought against the COVID restrictions on the border over and over again.

And while they were making sure our teachers and our

first responders and all these things were getting fired from their jobs because they didn't take the vaccine, they were not requiring the vaccine for illegal immigrants being allowed into the country.

Yeah.

Now, why on earth we actually do have a legitimate constitutional right to tell citizens of other countries if they're going to come into our country, we can put all sorts of crazy restrictions on them because we are a sovereign nation.

And so you might not like, you know, vaccine requirements as I do not like vaccine requirements, but we absolutely have the right to put vaccine requirements on people visiting this country.

We do not have to let anybody in here if we don't want to.

We are a sovereign nation.

Now, you might think that's a dumb idea, which I would agree with you, but like we have all sorts of vaccine requirements for people visiting the country way before COVID was a thing.

Like we, we, we want, we don't want people bringing in, you know,

all sorts of different diseases that are hot spots all around the around the world.

We don't want people bringing them in here.

So we require that.

And that's totally our right as a country.

But yet the Democrats were like, no, just let, we've got a pandemic going on.

We're ruining the lives of all of our citizens.

But if you want to come in here illegally, you don't have to get the vaccine.

Don't worry about that at all.

Just come on in.

I just don't understand it.

I just don't understand it.

Obviously, what they're saying is not true.

Yeah.

They don't actually care about these things.

They've got other things at play, and they've been working these same agendas for a long time.

But

it's really weird to watch it play out in real time because they don't even try to square the circle.

They don't try to close the loop here.

They don't try to make any of this make sense.

No, they really don't.

They don't.

They really don't.

did you get the boosters uh i got a booster oh you did so last year three up to three shots two okay so you got the i got fully vaxed yes and i got one booster and before the omicron thing and i will say look okay look i don't i i literally don't care if you get your vaccine at all i don't care what you do with your life i don't care what medicine you take whether and you shouldn't care if i do um i no one no one cares and my you know i don't there's There's no reason to talk about this.

People have made their mind up or they've already had it at this point.

I mean, we're so far beyond the point where this makes any point to talk about.

But

I did get the

Johnson and Johnson one initially.

So I had the one shot

and got the one booster before Omicron.

And I don't know.

I mean, who knows what happens with this stuff?

I will say I did sit in here with one Glenn Bank

with COVID, unknowing to me, in this little tiny room we sit in.

And him blabbing and screaming and yelling two feet away from me for

for three shows and you did nothing three shows he nine nine hours of radio okay and i did not get it so if there's any i don't know if that had anything to do whatever who cares at this point but get it or don't well you had it too so you've got natural immunity and yes i got it before the vaccines even came out right and like look everyone the vaccine thing is just so beat to death at this point in my mind but it's like you know nothing worked fully right like you had I think when you look at death and

both natural immunity and the vaccine seemed to work really well against death and

hospitalization.

Yeah, it did.

Once Omicron hit, both the vaccine.

And we should note, also natural immunity were out the window.

Glenn got it twice.

He got it the first time, and then he had natural immunity.

He had a really bad case the first time.

I mean, he was in real, a really, really rough spot the first time he got COVID.

Yeah.

And then he got it again the next year.

And it wasn't nearly as bad.

It wasn't as bad because he had problems, but it just wasn't.

It cut through all of the stuff when it came to transmission.

I mean, it cut through all of it.

Yeah.

But I mean, regardless.

It didn't matter as much because it was much milder.

It was much milder.

So

look, you know, this is the thing.

And, you know, I talk about this.

There's a lot of people around here who are, you know, totally against getting the COVID vaccine.

And like, that's, you're right.

As a human being, you should be able to make your own freaking decisions.

And the reason why I think people get so crazy and passionate about this stuff is because you're asking them to do something they don't want to do and forcing them to do it, threatening them with their livelihood to get it or not.

That's always the issue.

Not whether or not you got it.

It's whether or not the government forced you to get it.

Yes.

I mean, which should never have happened.

But medicine should not be a political issue like this.

It's dumb.

Just get it if you want to get it.

Right.

You know, how many medicines are you taking, Pat?

I don't know if you're like me.

I'm getting old.

I'm in my mid-40s right now.

So I have a giant pack of pills that you're taking like every day.

Vitamins and nutrients and minerals and medicines.

And I don't even know what the, some of it, I don't even think it's real.

I think my wife is just slipping in like Pez candies in there at this point just to fill up the box.

Yeah.

But the bottom line is like.

We don't need to discuss every freaking medicine we take.

Why?

That's what you do when you get older and you're a guy.

Every time you see your old friends, you're like,

my liver pills.

Oh, you guys taking that new liver pill?

Oh, it's wonderful.

It's doing it doing it.

My liver feels better than it has since I was in my 60s.

That's what every conversation becomes.

That doesn't have to be our society.

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Yes, yes.

Wonderful.

Now, I just had a theory I wanted to run by, you guys, and you're going to think I'm

trying to be silly, but I think I might be on something there.

First off, let me say that I do believe

as far as the Paul Pelosi attack that they were both in their underwear.

Yeah, I think strongly.

I do believe this.

I do believe that.

I do believe that to be true.

And just to cut to the chase here, I think that there was something going on between the two gentlemen and

the assailant came over, you know, to, you know, to have a sexy time.

We'll just say that.

And

that's why, Paul,

that's why, that's why, that's why Paul Pelosi didn't sound irate or screaming or anything and kept his composure when he called 911.

And obviously, when the cops did finally show up, once again, like everyone says, he didn't run out the door

and get behind the cops.

He went back to the assailants.

So, yeah, I think

I think they were making a little gay.

All right.

Thank you very much.

I mean, look, I don't think there's

look, there was an initial report that said they were in their underwear.

There was one initial report that was retracted within an hour or two.

And really, there hasn't been much more about that.

Look, the bottom line is we have, we're going to have video evidence of this, and eventually we'll probably know a lot more of the answer.

I will say

we've got the cops body cams, right?

Yeah, eventually we're going to see that.

Eventually, we'll see that.

I think.

But there's also, there should be security cameras from the house.

Probably see that as well.

Exactly.

Now, if they were in their underwear together, you would think that he wouldn't have broken into the house, right?

Paul Pelosi would have let him in.

It wouldn't make much sense to even break the window.

Now, you know, look, everyone points, oh, well, the glass is on the outside.

All these things are, there's a million theories out there.

I will say, one of the things that feeds these theories, right or wrong, is, for example, what happened with the NBC reporter who came out and said, hey, it looks like Pelosi opened the door and then walked back over to his attacker where then they had this interaction.

That whole thing that he said and was, by the way,

not a live off-a-cuff thing.

It was a produced report built with graphics.

And all sorts of, I mean, you know, look, not everybody in the audience goes through TV broadcasts every day, but like when you want to get a graphic made, when you're doing a recorded piece, this goes through all sorts of layers of checking.

It doesn't just get on the air.

You have to go.

There's people who look at it, especially at a place like NBC News.

There's people who approve it.

When we were at CNN, good God, to get a recorded piece on the air, whenever we would go to, you know, we would go to get something

done in the edit room.

I mean, they had the editors basically reporting to

higher authorities when they thought we were doing something that wasn't accurate and then we would get called in and we would say well can you back this up and we'd have to take out the documentation and show them that we could yes back this up there's all sorts of layers so this goes on then this guy gets suspended and then while he's still currently suspended

we have the

other reporting coming out that yes this is what happened he he came to the door and then he opened the door and he went back toward his record reporter now or his attacker now the reporter at the time gave an explanation for why why this could occur that was not

egregious or not.

Conspiratorial.

He said

the police did not know

his mental state at the time, indicating like maybe Pelosi had already been hit in the head with a hammer already.

And he didn't know what anything was going on.

Right.

Like, totally believable.

But when you, and that may be the cause, but when you go and then you silence a reporter for no reason, give no explanation, think of the things that reporters demand explanations of all the time.

When people get fired, they demand explanations.

If someone makes an accusation against a man in power, some woman who the guy says he doesn't even know,

he's forced to make a statement because the media demands it.

Yet the media never gives explanations for the crap they do.

When they have the Me Too person in their organization, they say nothing.

They say nothing.

And no other media organization bothers them about it because they know next time it's probably going to be them.

So they all work together to make their lives easier and destroy everybody else's lives.

So now this poor reporter who did nothing but report the facts of the situation, now backed up by multiple other mainstream media sources, he's still suspended and his reputation's been destroyed.

I would not be surprised to see Miguel Almaguer

fired from now on.

Sometime in the near future, we'll just hear, yeah, he's been let go.

And there's no reason for it.

Absolutely no reason for it.

Crazy.

It really is.

I mean, and it just, like you said, it just leads you to believe that there's something else going on.

Stop contributing to the conspiracy theories.

Tell us what really happened then.

Show us the video.

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What do you think are the odds that Herschel wins in Georgia?

I would say

I mean, I think it's pretty close to 50-50.

I think he has a chance.

I think

the sort of common knowledge, the common take on this is that because Kemp isn't there to help him, he'll wind up losing.

But, you know, I mean,

the

independent or libertarian, whoever else was running, isn't there either.

Isn't there?

Right.

And he took, what,

2% of the vote, I think?

Something like that.

2.1%.

But so the other thing is now the Senate not on the line.

So perhaps there's not quite as much focus on that.

I think

in a normal race where people,

it's still a leaning red state.

I think you saw that in the gubernatorial race.

Kemp did a good job.

I think he's a pretty good governor and has a pretty good record.

I mean, people would remember that he got yelled at by President Trump for opening too early.

Right.

That's right.

People forget that.

So he had a good record through COVID.

He's had a good record as a governor and he won easily.

I mean, blew out Stacey Abrams.

So

I think in a normal race, that's sort of still where there's still a lean to the red for Georgia.

And in a lower turnout race with the Senate not on the line now, I think he's got a chance.

I think,

you know, he might be the slight underdog, but I think he has a real chance of winning that race.

And if the Republicans get, I mean, one thing I will say to Republicans who are frustrated, maybe in Georgia and saying, oh, gosh, I don't know if I want to go out and bother here.

I understand that.

But remember, this is a Senate term.

This is six years.

This is a seat in the bank when 2024 comes.

Right?

That's a big deal.

It's a seat you don't have to win in 2024.

It's already there in 2024 and 2026.

Yeah.

When you're fighting for control of the Senate, that's an election you've already won for both of those two cycles.

When we talked about this.

And Warnock is such a rapid so bad, too.

You want him in there for six more years?

The guy ran over his wife.

Well, it's her foot.

Wait, he ran over his wife's foot?

Yeah, he did.

Intentionally?

I believe so, yes.

Yes.

Apparently it was intentional.

They were in a little.

I mean, this is, I don't know, this is bad.

This is all the people talk about in this election is who did what to the

ex-wife.

I know, which is a bizarre way to go.

But, you know, if we remember this election, Pat started in the bank, 36 to 29 Democrats would lead.

They're up by seven coming into the election.

Wow.

So that padding makes a big difference.

Yeah.

So really, I mean, making sure Herschel Walker can get this seat is still a massive focus.

It's only

a few further away, something like that.

And it's a big deal for 2024 when Republicans have a little bit better chance of winning back the Senate.

Yeah, in fact, they should.

Unless things go terribly wrongly, terrible for them in the next couple of years,

they should easily win back the Senate in 2024.

The map favors them in a big way.

The question is, what happens over the next couple of years?

If we have economic problems, if we kind of see the situation we have here, and of course, we should know good candidates are picked in the primaries, which is vitally important, as we've seen here.

If that happens, Republicans will be heavily favored.

They were the underdog coming in to this.

If you took out Joe Biden's performance and just said, okay, what's the state of play here?

You'd say, okay, Democrats have a big edge going into this race just because of the map.

Nothing to do with any rules they broke, nothing to do with any

underhanded tactics.

Just the fact that they start up 36-29 and a tie is a loss for Republicans.

50-50 is a loss.

Yeah.

So, you know,

there's a real situation there where.

So they actually had to, in reality, win 12 seats, right?

11 seats.

No, they had to get to 12, right?

If they were 29, if they were at 29.

Well, they have to get to 22.

They'd have to win 22 seats to get to 51.

22 seats.

Jeez, man.

Yeah, they're right.

I'm thinking 40.

No.

No.

50.

Yeah.

So, yeah, my math was ever so slightly off.

Well, maybe we're thinking in the film.

Maybe that's why Republicans didn't win because their math was off as well.

Yeah.

Thinking we'll get to 20.

Well, we'll get to 40.

We'll be fine.

It'll be good.

Yeah, no, no, you got to get above that.

And that's going to be big with judges here.

I mean, over the next few years, unfortunately, there's really no path for Republicans to block judges.

Even if they got to 51, it would be difficult because people like Mitt Romney or Susan Collins could just approve them or Lisa Murkowski

and will just approve them.

So you weren't safe unless you got to 54 or 55,

really, to block most of these people.

But look, the bottom line, and I think people are super negative about the election.

They should should be in a lot of ways.

It was an underachieving election.

But the bottom line is Democrats are bragging about losing.

They have a worse situation in January than they do right now.

And they are bragging about this as if this was some incredible achievement when their own polling in the summer showed that they had a really good chance, almost a 50% chance of winning the House and an 80% or 90% chance of winning the Senate and a chance of that looking really good.

In fact, maybe maybe 53, 54 seats.

Nancy Pelosi herself said they were going to hold

the House.

Even the House, she said they were going to hold.

They did believe that, and they didn't get what they wanted.

You know, it's such a weird way that we judge elections, Pat.

It's like the only way we judge elections is what was the preconceived notion a week beforehand.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, if we look at the preconceived notion three months beforehand, this was a great result for Republicans

because the thought was they were going to lose the House and the Senate.

Yeah.

Now, a week before, it looked like they were going to win at least the House and

maybe the Senate, although that was still a 50-50 type of scenario.

I think the final 538 model had it at 59.41, but a week beforehand, it was 50-50, basically, for Republicans to win.

And the House is disappointing because the margin is so bad.

I will say the margin, look, they got control.

That's what they needed to do.

They should have been able to get to 230 seats without really that much difficulty.

And they blew some really close seats.

And what, and you know, it's funny because when you look at the actual final vote count,

they did pretty well.

I mean, you could see a red wave appearing in the popular vote count in the House, which, by the way, we should note means nothing, just like the popular vote count in the presidency means nothing.

But it is a set.

Usually you get a sense of how the election went by looking at the popular vote count in the House.

And Republicans are going to win that probably by almost four points, which is a pretty solid margin.

The issue

was that they did it in the dumbest possible way, which is if you look at like a typical race, they'd be expected to win by 20 in a bright red district, they won that race by 30.

In a typical race, they were supposed to lose by 30 in a bright blue district, they didn't lose by 30, they lost by 20 or 10.

But that didn't change anything.

And then in the purple districts, where maybe it was a toss-up, they lost by like two.

So they wind up losing a lot of those purple districts that they had a a chance to win, or like a race where they were an underdog by eight points and wound up losing by five points instead.

Well, they picked up some points, but they didn't change the seats.

And so they didn't really get all that much for that four-point victory.

They did it in an incredibly inefficient way, which is an interesting story.

Like that's the thing with New York, where they wind up, you know, winning some seats, but they wound up doing very well in bright blue districts, keeping it really close.

We saw that with the gubernatorial race where Kochl, which you'd expect a governor in

New York to win by 20 points, only won by five.

But what does that do for you?

Nothing.

Not much.

Nope.

I mean, it makes you feel good.

And it probably helped them win some of the congressional seats, right?

So it maybe did some damage there, that was really positive.

Did some damage in the state house as well.

But at the end of the day, making a blowout election, a close election, is not all that much of an accomplishment.

You don't get too excited about that.

You know what?

There's something to say for the change in Florida because Florida was considered purple until fairly recently.

I mean, Ron DeSantis won by 0.4%.

Right.

Last time.

And then this time he wins by 20%.

So that's a major change.

Plus,

they got Republicans all throughout the state

and did really well.

I mean, there was a red wave in Florida.

And some of that, the Hispanic support support Republicans were looking for actually occurred in the future.

Actually, it happened in Florida.

You know, Republicans were trying to flip three seats in South Texas and were unable.

I think they've got one of the three, but made some real inroads there.

But in Florida and Arizona, you saw some pretty significant gains when it comes to the Hispanic vote and California as well.

The other thing that was great about Florida is we used to mock and make fun of them.

They were the butt of the joke about elections for years.

i mean anybody remember the 2000 election i mean florida was they were incompetent they didn't know what they were doing they had the hanging pregnant chads remember all that now they fixed that and like the next day when you're supposed to know uh all of the election results they knew the election results so they've really fixed a lot isn't that interesting process how does that happen how does such a

mysterious concept of how to change you know count some votes the night of the election.

Right?

I mean, what is California at?

70% right now?

In the year.

Right now.

Yeah, right now.

What are we?

We're going on

two weeks.

Two weeks.

It'll be two weeks tomorrow, right?

And are they.

Two weeks tomorrow?

That's incredible.

It really is pathetic.

You know, and what would you expect in the year 2022?

I mean, it's 2022.

You can't

have those election results the night of.

Right now, we have 218.

Some people have 219 called for Republicans.

Yeah, the New York Times has 218 called for Republicans.

And this was updated this morning.

So this is up-to-date information.

California's third district.

Right now, the Republican leads by 10,068 votes.

How much with the...

With 71% of the vote counting.

Oh, my gosh.

So that could go either way.

Pathetic.

It's still uncalled because of that.

Weeks.

Two weeks.

Later.

How is that possible?

How is it it even possible?

They have up to a month to do it.

It's in state law.

It's unreal.

So

why are they in a rush?

They're going to stay there all night when they got a month?

Why would they?

Why would they?

And of course,

votes can show up late as long as it's postmarked on time, which is completely ridiculous.

Now, if you're in Alaska, you know, maybe you forgive it a little bit.

There's still a House race that's uncalled in Alaska, though the Democrats are going to win it.

Well, Alaska is the size of Asia.

So

it's a six miles.

And there's like four rodents.

So I can understand why it takes a while for votes to come in there.

California, there's no excuse.

There's no excuse.

Get the votes there by election day.

Yeah.

Period.

Yeah, absolutely should be the case.

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A little football over the weekend.

The Philadelphia Eagles came through in the last few seconds there.

That's true.

They played a good eighth of a quarter of solid football in that game and wound up winning 17-16.

I mean, that's a sign of a championship team, though, that play crappy and still win.

Oh, gosh, I hope so.

That's a nice way to go.

I don't know if I could take two Super Bowl wins in the same year or same lifetime.

I mean, I thought I'd get one if I was lucky, and finally that came in 2017, the glorious greatest game of football I've ever played.

And now they're doing

it.

I don't know if they're.

Look, I'd love to see it.

They're 9-1, so they should make the playoffs.

Hopefully, they're the number one seed.

They got a two-game lead.

That'll be nice.

I got to hear from the Cowboys fans who somehow blew out Minnesota 40-3 yesterday.

So I'm surrounded by Cowboys fans here, so the rest of the nation can understand the torture that goes into that life.

The Green Bay Packers, what?

Hey, I don't even know what to say about them.

They're bad.

You're a big Packers fan, and they did not look good on Thursday night.

They haven't looked good all year, really.

I mean, they beat the Cowboys, which was nice.

I don't know how they accomplished that,

but they've lost to everybody else, virtually everybody else.

What are they, four and eight or something?

Four and seven, four and eight?

I don't know.

They're not doing well.

No, they're not doing very well.

Maybe it's three and eight.

They are four and seven currently.

Four and seven right now.

I will say this, Pat.

Our football is still a lot better than the world's football.

They had the World Cup is going on, I guess, in Qatar.

And they were like, hey, two days before, they're like, hey, no beer at the stadium.

And everyone's like, wait a minute, what?

What?

First of all, Budweiser has been supporting this event for like 100 years.

It's like they're the biggest sponsor.

And secondly, like, how can you watch soccer without alcohol?

It's unwatchable even if you're hammered.

Imagine going to a soccer match sober.

No one's ever seen a soccer match sober before.

It's never occurred.

And I'm talking even little league soccer.

Even if your kid is playing, you know it.

You're hammered hammered in the stands just to try to find some level of enjoyment of this terrible kicking sport.

And it's so frustrating.

I've tried to watch a little soccer because people are just, or you got to watch it in order to appreciate it.

Pat, that's the only thing.

You have to watch it to appreciate.

So I've tried to watch a teacher of soccer matches.

I did not appreciate it.

It frustrated the heck out of me.

You kick the ball, they kick it back, then you kick it really far down the field.

Then somebody else kicks it way far back.

Yeah, well, what about the subtleties of the game?

Yeah, the subtleties of the game don't lead to goals.

Yes, it's interesting to see a play broken down that leads to something, right?

But like the fact that the ball went from the middle of the field to slightly one side of the field or the other,

it's a subtlety that's not interesting.

Not exciting.

By the way, U.S.

plays Wales today at 1 o'clock Eastern Time, I believe.

Oh, wow, I am going to rivet it to that match.

Riveting.

Can't wait to watch it.

Can I have beer?

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A 22-year-old gunman killed five people, injured 25 more in an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Man, has Colorado been beset with mass shootings or what?

It's got to be the worst state for them.

It's got to be.

At least the big, you know, sort of headline-grabbing versions of it.

Really, really sad.

Because the Batman movie shooting that happened at one of the midnight showings, that was there.

Of course, Columbine,

you had a shooting at Colorado Springs last year and another one this year.

The suspect in the shooting at Club q was identified um i won't even say his name um but he was identified by police they don't they don't necessarily have a motive yet

he's not talking to police

um

huh i wonder if that'll continue that's interesting uh after entering the nightclub though he immediately opened fire before at least at least two people inside the club confronted and fought him.

I mean, that's really something.

A couple of heroes here.

Yeah, and a couple of people who did this without being armed.

Right.

And it sort of puts in the focus of how horrible the Uvalde situation was when you had actual law enforcement heavily armed

doing nothing.

Really, really makes that situation seem even more frustrating when you do see that this is the way a lot of times it does stop.

Obviously, we have seen many, many shootings be stopped by citizens with weapons weapons themselves, which has been

something that the media doesn't usually like to talk about.

But we also have seen it just people rushing, rushing a shooter and some of them, you know, paying for it.

They lost their lives doing that, but they've been able to stop it as well.

But these, uh, these people

accosted him.

One of them took a handgun from him and hit him in the head with it.

And that

stopped the shooting.

Yeah.

And they held him down until I guess police showed up.

Which police, I guess, got there pretty quickly, too.

So

just

a great effort from two people who just happened to be at the club, as far as we know.

Yeah.

Now, of course, the media is trying to make this into,

you know,

this is basically the conservative ideology in action.

Which it is not.

We might want to note that conservative

individuals, we say law and order a lot.

Murder would fall outside of that particular paradigm.

Seems that way.

yeah.

You know, usually you'd say murder bad.

You know, it was mentioned actually in a very important book to many conservatives

called The Bible.

And yeah, they specifically say,

I don't know much about it.

Yeah.

It's an old book, but it's in there.

It says, don't murder.

Really?

It says like, you shouldn't do it.

I think it's...

And a lot of conservatives, you'd think, follow that.

You know, the word sort of thing.

You ever hear the word shalt?

I have.

It says, thou shalt not.

Not murder.

So don't do that.

Don't do that.

And everyone knows not to do it.

It's not part of the conservative ideology, even if you don't necessarily agree with whatever was going on in the club.

If you go and murder people at the club, you are way, way, way worse than anything that's ever happened in any club.

Right.

You are

the lowest form of human being possible.

Committing the worst crime you can commit.

And here's the thing.

Once you go through a trial, I hope the ending is you are executed.

That's what I hope happens.

If you happen to be the person who goes in and does something like this in a club, no matter what they're doing in the club, you are an enemy to all humanity.

My guess is 99.999%

of all conservatives would agree with that statement, too.

I think so.

It's interesting because police are trying to decide whether this was a hate crime.

As if

it's a strange concept to me.

Like, other shootings are done with a lot of love.

Yeah.

Love and care.

How many?

Love and tender care.

Yeah.

They're not hate.

That has nothing to do with it.

I'm shooting out of love here in this particular shooting.

And look, it is

the media, every single time there's a mass shooting tries to say it's conservatives until the facts come out and that's disproved.

Like they just try to grab the new deadlines.

They do it every single time, no matter what the cause is.

Yes.

They always do the same thing.

And I think like when you see a situation like this where

a LGBTQQIA2 plus

club is targeted, like, you know, a lot of people are going to, that's not, that's going to be a lot of people in the middle.

Even some conservatives are going to be like, God, I hope this isn't someone who thinks drag shows for children are bad and is trying to make some statement.

It's understandable to think about that.

Though, if you do remember, the Pulse nightclub shooting, which was universally promoted as a conservative trying to kill gay people, wind up now.

Yeah, it wound up not being that case after all.

After all of the evidence came out, that was actually not what happened at the Pulse nightclub shooting.

So

look, we don't know where this is going to go.

Obviously, the sensible thing to do is to wait and understand the details of the case before you form.

Of course, the left is not going to do that.

They're not going to do that.

They only do that in cases like, you know, Pelosi, right?

Where they

don't know, we don't know what's going on.

They're like, you got to wait until all the details come out.

You got to wait.

You got to wait.

You got to wait because this could be bad for us.

Well, I prefer to wait for both.

Like, I'm not guessing at what was going on in Pelosi's house.

I want to know the information.

I want to know what the investigation shows.

I want to know what the video shows.

And the same thing here.

I do want to know what this person's motivation is.

I will never say his name because I don't want someone

to chase the glory in this way.

But these things do happen, and whatever the motivation is,

I know of no conservative who would do anything but shun this type of activity and want it punished to the fullest extent of the law.

And apparently, the guy's just crazy.

He held his mother hostage last year with some kind of bomb threat.

And there was a standoff with police last year.

And so the guy's obviously just nuts.

Was that a hate crime too?

Or was that done with love?

I don't know.

Well, it was his mom.

So that was a loving

crime.

Why, why?

Let me ask you this, Pat.

Why?

Why?

Why?

Why was this person?

Not in jail?

Not in jail.

Yeah, it's a good question.

I feel like when it, like, again, I keep coming back to, and and I use you often as the example when I think this, of this, but like you drive 27 miles an hour in a 25 mile an hour zone and you get pulled over for a speed.

Right.

Right.

Yes.

And you get, you never get off.

They never say, yeah, we have a little written warning for you.

Virtually every time.

Every time they give you a ticket.

I feel like if I did something like got in a standoff with police over a bomb threat, I would be in jail for a really long time.

Like I would expect to be in jail for a long time.

Yet it seems like everyone else who does this is just out.

Oh, he's out.

He can go.

You know, go buy a gun.

Yep.

You know, and it's not, this is not a criticism of our Second Amendment rights, which are incredibly important, but like we do have limitations on them when you commit felonies.

Usually like, you don't allow that anymore.

But this guy, I don't know, we don't even know if this guy bought a gun or if it was legal or what.

But like, why was he outside and able to do anything?

Why was he able to enter a club?

Yeah.

It seems like a pretty egregious crime when you're holding your mother hostage and threatening her with some kind of bomb material.

Yeah.

It seems serious.

And like while the Republicans are going out of their way, and I think this is smart to say the Hunter Biden investigation, well, that's about Joe Biden and his financial crimes, and they're serious.

And I think that's a smart focus for them to be on.

But it's like, I think to myself, let's just say I decided to have kind of a crazy weekend.

And I just lined up prostitute after prostitute and did drug after drug off of their naked bellies and decided to film myself on my cell phone camera.

Naked most of the time.

Naked most of the time, doing drugs,

hooking up with hookers.

And then I decided, you know what I'm also going to do?

I'm going to record that on my phone.

I'm going to store it on my laptop.

Then I'm going to drop my laptop off at a computer repair shop.

And then leave it there forever.

Leave it there forever so it gets leaked to the press.

The FBI has a copy of it.

I feel like I might get in trouble for such things.

I know that's not the big story when it comes to Hunter Biden, but I feel as if I myself might

run into a little legal trouble if I did all that stuff.

And also, by the way, one of the women I was hooking up with, I impregnated and just left them.

So they had to have the

doesn't seem to be any consequences for this guy for crimes.

No, right.

Like, I understand that, like, someone hooking up with a hooker or doing drugs is not as big a deal as billions of dollars being shuttled between Joe Biden and his...

I understand those are bigger issues, but like, why aren't there consequences?

Why,

like,

some of this stuff happened in red states.

It's not like it was all bright blue states.

Why aren't there consequences for like the boring stuff that Hunter Biden was doing, like hookers and

blow and all the other things he was doing?

Like, I feel like I would get in trouble for it.

Do you think you'd just get away?

Do people, we should have asked Jeffy when he was in here.

Do people get away with that?

Like if you're, if you are hooking up with hookers, you're doing drugs, you're committing financial fraud, you've got gun crimes, you're lying on federal forms to acquire a firearm, do people just routinely get away with that?

I don't think so.

I feel like I would definitely get in trouble.

I'm pretty sure you would.

And so would I.

But I guess if you're a president's son, that gives you.

Maybe that's, is that it?

Yeah, I guess so.

Is he just special in some way?

He's special.

Because, you know, they talk about this all the time when they talk about, you know, well, we need to, we need to keep, there's, our prisons are, there's a higher proportion of African Americans in prison.

And we need to make sure that we, we, we have to stop that.

This is the prison industrial complex.

And you know, this left-wing argument that comes all the time.

What they leave out of that argument is a large reason why there is a

a problem with this is because you're enforcing the gun control laws liberals passed.

When you say anyone that

doesn't go through all the perfect processes

for

gun crime, when they don't go through that process correctly, a lot of times what you're doing is you're scooping up 18-year-olds in cities

who

want to be kind of fake gangbangers and probably are never going to use the gun, but went and got a gun in some illicit way, and then they wind up in prison.

These are all left-wing laws that wind up gun control, scooping up African Americans and putting them in prison for long periods of time because the left has decided that's what they're going to do with these laws.

And, you know, Hunter Biden doesn't get punished for them.

I mean, I understand why someone who's saying, wait a minute, why is Hunter Biden getting away with this?

And my teenage son who got messed up, mixed up with the wrong crowd for a couple of months and got caught with a gun.

Oh, it's a legitimate point.

It's a legit point.

It is.

It is a legit point that many on the left have.

It's a different,

it's a different society for those of us who are not among the elite.

It's sad, but apparently true.

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You know, know, the shooting that doesn't seem to be getting any attention is what happened at the University of Virginia, where

three black football players were shot and killed.

What was five injured or something to that effect?

And the media is not interested in that one at all.

They just don't care.

It's just another black on black crime, and I guess you just ignore that.

It's unbelievable, really.

Unbelievable.

And

they're not even talking about the gun used or whether there should be gun control because of this.

I just don't hear virtually anything about it.

It's really amazing.

It really is.

And these things come and go.

They come and go as

they do because of how they serve the left-wing cause.

If they serve the left-wing cause, they stay around for a very long time.

If they do not, they go away almost immediately.

That is absolutely the state of our media right now.

If,

I mean, like, the most egregious example of all time, I believe, Pat, tell me if you think there's a better one.

The most egregious example of all time is the 2017 baseball shooting, where a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer took an A, you know, I think it was an AR-15, I don't remember, but took a long rifle to a baseball field to murder 10%

of elected Republicans in Washington, D.C.

Obviously, he didn't succeed, but he certainly tried.

He was shooting at 10% of them.

Yes, that's what he was trying to do, kill every single player on the field.

And he almost killed

Scalise.

He survived.

They all survived, thankfully.

But, you know,

and that story came and went.

Think about this.

I mean, like, we still, like, look, there are terrible things that have happened in our history.

The Gabby Giffords thing is one of them.

It was a terrible, terrible tragedy.

It was not done by a right-winger.

It was done by an insane person who believed Gabby Giffords had

some world effort against grammar or something.

It was something to do with grammar.

It's a weird conspiracy theory about grammar.

Very bizarre.

Very strange.

Had nothing to do with right-wing

ideology.

That thing is still out there.

I mean, look, there's a real strong argument that a big portion of the reason why Mark Kelly is going to be a senator and not Blake Masters is because there's a lot of built-in sympathy for this family who went through a real tragedy.

Yeah.

But it had nothing.

That story is still

talked about constantly.

They're doing another series with her about this now.

Jeez.

Where, you know, Steve Scales never had anything like this.

And this was a,

they tried to even convince people it wasn't a politically motivated shooting.

They tried to do everything they could to convince people.

He specifically asked for the Republicans.

Where are the Republicans?

Where are they?

And went there with the purpose, with the intent of shooting them.

And that's not politically motivated.

Right.

Think of the Nancy Pelosi thing.

The Nancy Pelosi thing was, let's just say it's absolutely as described on the surface, right?

A person who, let's just say, we don't even know this, but really didn't like Nancy Pelosi for political reasons, broke in, wanted to hold Pelosi hostage.

Let's just say it was the left-wing dream of this scenario because this is what they would want to happen.

Even if that was true, it's nowhere near the sort of story impact as trying to murder 25 Republicans at the same time.

Right.

Right.

All while they're on the baseball field in a pre-planned attack by somebody.

It's nowhere near that story.

It's bad, but it's not that story.

You know,

it's similar to the Kavanaugh threat that went on.

And nobody talks about that either.

Kennedy Clinton today.

They didn't even talk about it on that weekend's Sunday shows.

Brett Kavanaugh was almost murdered.

A person was arrested for attempted murder of a sitting Supreme Court justice.

And that weekend, it was not brought up on any of the Sunday shows.

That's amazing.

Absolutely incredible.

It's like,

you don't want to keep fighting.

the same battles.

You don't want to keep fighting and saying, hey, the double standard exists, I swear.

It does.

This is a, you know, scientific consensus has science has been settled on this one, Pat.

Pretty much.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's despicable.

I mean, to the point where Lori Lightfoot, who you might recognize as the mayor of Chicago, talking about the shooting in Colorado Springs, and she made the point that

she's sick of this stuff.

That's not the word she used, but

she claims to be sick and tired of people being shot.

Wow.

Why don't you do something about your own town then?

And it was obviously mentioned on Twitter multiple times.

Hey, how come you're not sick of this stuff in Chicago where 615 people have been murdered this year alone?

615.

And it's about 50 to 60 to 70 shot every single weekend.

So you might, I don't know, they're very selective about what they're sick of and what they're not sick of.

And yeah, that's very selective.

It's really pathetic.

I mean, it's like,

do any of your advisors say, Lori, Lori, come on, come on,

no, no, no, no, you can't criticize anything.

Right.

You know, come on.

I understand you got to do this thing where we all tweet about the story in the news today, but like, come on, you can't possibly think it's appropriate for you to talk about other people having murder problems.

We are literally known as the murder capital of the world.

You can't.

It just doesn't work.

You just can't do that.

It really doesn't.

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Joe Biden turned 80 yesterday.

Wow, it's great.

Great accomplishment.

80.

Oldest president, of course, in the history of the country, by a lot.

They used to complain because Ronald Reagan was 77 at the end of his presidency.

They were all freaked out about that.

Those days are long ago.

80.

Yeah.

Oh, and it's fine.

The New York Times is talking about how, oh, yeah, he's still, according to experts in aging,

he still has a lot going in his favor.

They don't say what, but

he has a lot going for himself.

A lot going in his favor.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I guess he probably has excellent doctors around him.

Well, maybe.

We're paying for incredibly solid health care for him, which is good.

Sure.

He can still walk sometimes, sort of.

Sort of.

Kind of shuffles around, but he's still mobile.

So I guess he's got that.

He can shake hands with the air

when he has no idea where he's going or where to turn or how to get off the stage.

He does that a lot, which is cool.

And I will say, like, you know, I think it's pretty easy to say, okay, well, 80 years old is too old to be president.

A lot of people are making that argument, which, you know, it's something to talk about.

But not everybody is like Joe Biden and completely out of it.

I mean, Trump is almost 80.

Yeah.

You know, and I think

much better shape.

Much, I mean,

he's not exactly in the best physical shape in the world, but mentally.

Mentally, he's much more

on top of it.

But I mean, I won't even use him as an example.

We talked to Alan Dershowitz last week.

Now, Alan Dershowitz, we should point out,

this got lost because it came out either the day before or the day after the election.

I can't remember.

But the central accuser in the entire Jeffrey Epstein saga,

Virginia Juffrey,

basically released a statement saying, I might have misidentified Alan Dershowitz.

Yeah.

Oops.

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

She's been accusing him for years.

Accusing him for years.

He was really magnanimous about it, though.

He might be.

He was.

Because I think he sees it as a bigger story

than just himself.

But I mean,

he was basically canceled for this.

And I think it was also partially because he had occasionally defended Donald Trump, which people did not like on the left.

But they took the opportunity to take these accusations seriously and run him out of all sorts of institutions he had been part of for decades.

And does he get his reputation back?

I don't know.

Because I was in election hell and completely missed the story.

I didn't even see it.

And so

if we didn't see it, where we're watching the news every day, I got to imagine the average person did not see it.

But the reason I bring Dershowitz up is we had him on the air the other day.

He went through this entire saga again,

talked about all sorts of constitutional issues as it relates to the president, these ongoing investigations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He's 84.

And like, I wouldn't agree with Alan Dershowitz on policy.

Wow.

Right?

Like, he would not be, but he is absolutely

mentally agile enough to be president of the United States.

Now, I would, he would pass all sorts of liberal things I wouldn't want, but he's absolutely, like, I mean, the man talks circles around pretty much everybody in the world.

Yeah.

And he's 84 years old.

So it doesn't have to be this way.

It just is this way with Joe Biden.

Right.

He's 80 years old and he has the mental acuity of 180 year old.

And that's a problem.

Yep.

You know,

you wonder how these things, how bad things happen.

I mean, the guy is, look,

he's on the edge here.

He does not,

you know,

is it possible, possible, that

they came to him and said, hey, you did pass a bill for the student loan

relief.

They signed it remember and he said oh yeah and then went out in front of the american people were like we signed a bill to res to stop uh student loans from needing to be paid and it passed by a couple of votes like is that possible that they just lied to him and said hey joe you remember you signed that bill i doubt it or is he just lying i think he's just lying i think the more like

things up yeah it's not the scarecrow that's the best outcome yeah the the thing we can all root for is our president is lying to us that's the best possible answer for some of the stuff.

He's just a bad politician lying to us all the time, knowing that, I mean, he knows, I mean, everybody

knows that the student loan relief program was completely unconstitutional.

Every single

person in the media, every single person in Washington, they all know with 100% certainty that this is an unconstitutional plan.

They all know it.

They did it to try to buy some votes before the primaries, and they all know that if it gets in front of the courts, it will be destroyed because it

obviously is not the way you're supposed to pass a law.

If it was, if it were, why on earth did Donald Trump do any of the things he tried to pass?

Why did he try to repeal Obamacare?

Why didn't he just say, yeah, yeah,

you don't have to do it anymore?

Why didn't they just do that?

Well, they had to go through Congress to try to do it, and it failed.

Right.

And they were unable to do it.

Why do they do these things this way?

Well, they followed the rules, largely.

Sometimes they didn't, and they got shot down in the courts, and they should have been shot down in the courts.

But like, we all know that you can't just pass a $1 trillion bill without asking anybody.

Like,

what kind of, you can't just say one day, we're just going to spend a trillion dollars.

Obviously, that has to go through Congress.

Everybody knows that.

Why did the Biden administration try to push for a stimulus package or try to push for Obamacare?

Why didn't they just do it?

Because they couldn't do it.

Everyone knew they couldn't do it.

And

it was the same thing that happened with DACA and many other things.

They just decided to do it anyway, and then eventually got shot down in the courts, at least giant chunks of it did.

They don't care.

It's like one of their main donors,

SBF or whatever his name is, Sam Bankman Freed,

who supposedly had $16.5 billion,

even more than that at one point.

I think they said he was worth $30 billion, and then he went down to $16.5 billion.

Then he lost 99% of his wealth from there on, or

96% of his wealth, whatever it was.

And I mean, I think a lot of people probably knew FTX was just a paper tiger, too.

You know, the overseer of Enron,

the guy who oversaw the Enron process,

said the collapse, said he's never seen anything like this.

Yeah, this is incredible.

That's amazing.

I have 40 years, over 40 years of legal and restructuring experience.

I've been the chief restructuring officer and/or in several of the largest corporate failures in history, including Enron.

Never in my career have I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here.

That's amazing.

Goes on to talk about how

they valued the cryptocurrency.

Now, this is incredible because they claimed $5.5 billion they were holding in cryptocurrency.

So that was what their claim was, $5.5 billion.

The actual number,

$659,000.

Oh my gosh.

How on earth?

How on earth?

I had not heard that figure yet.

How on earth?

Wow.

They say

the FTX group did not maintain centralized control of its cash.

Cash management procedural failures included the absence of an accurate list of bank accounts.

Can you imagine?

This company was running.

They didn't even know what their bank accounts were.

Wow.

Goes on to talk about how,

you know, in the Bahamas, FTX group funds were used to purchase homes and other personal items for employees and advisors.

They did not include appropriate books and records, security controls.

Are you supposed to?

Should you do that?

I think you should.

I think they asked you to do that.

It's weird.

Now, that might be a little bit too much.

Yeah, that's too much.

I don't want to.

They talk about how

they were transferring large amounts right before all this came out, which is always a big red flag.

I think my favorite example, though, is this, Pat.

You got to get a good accounting firm.

You know, you can't, you're running a big multi-billion dollar company.

You got to have a good accounting firm.

You know,

the blue chip ones.

Yeah.

Now, they did have an accounting firm.

Prager Metis.

It was a firm.

This is a quote from the document from the new CEO, the guy who unwound Enron.

Prager Metis, a firm with which I was not familiar,

which is a bad sign.

If the guy who's like in charge of all these things has never heard of your accounting firm, I was not familiar with, and whose website indicates that they are, quote, the first ever CPA firm to officially open its metaverse headquarters in the metaverse platform Decentraland.

What?

They were a metaverse accounting company.

Oh my gosh.

So it didn't really exist.

It didn't exist.

I guess it existed, but I guess they were bragging about being in the metaverse.

And like, you know,

let's pick the one in the metaverse, man.

Let's do that.

They, you know, they, there was a, I saw an interview with one of the, I talked to the

first mainstream reporter ever assigned full-time to crypto.

It's a lady named Laura Shin.

She was a, she wrote a really good book about the founding of Ethereum.

She has a really, you know, deep history.

She's talked to all these people.

She talked to Caroline Ellison, the girlfriend who's running Alameda.

She knows all these people and has talked to them all.

And she said, like, they did, they spoke a good game.

I mean, they talked a good game.

But you go back and you look at some of their quotes now

where they just look completely insane.

Why would anyone entrust money with these people?

She talked to.

Sure, Enron executives executives talked a good game.

Yeah.

And

they did talk a good game.

They actually did.

It's a different story in that Enron was a story of people who got over their skis, but were very, very intelligent, smart people

who were very accomplished and did a lot of amazing things in their lives.

This guy's like not, he's not in that category.

He's just, I mean, it seems like

for all the things you could say about Enron, and I read the book back in the day, the smartest guys in the room, which the

yeah, and that was the accusation.

The documentary was called Smartest Guys in the Room.

And the documentary gives this, like, oh, it was George Bush.

It's like a totally different story than the book.

But you read the book and you realize there definitely were people in Enron who bent the rules and tried to take advantage of it and tried to hide things.

There were also a lot of people who were just really good and

were doing really good things and were really smart and really accomplished and, you know, maybe weren't completely aware of all the things going on in the company at the time.

Yeah.

With FTX, I'm sure that the situation exists at some level, but the people at the top seem to be very, very involved in this.

To the point of like, there's an interview I had recently seen with some capital advisor guy who talked to Sam Bankman Freed at the beginning of the FTX thing when they were still forming it.

And they were saying that like they would start.

This is when, I think before FTX even existed, it was like the Alameda days.

And they were talking about how

at the end of the day, they try to make the book square up, but sometimes it doesn't.

Like, they can't make it square up.

So they just go on to the next day.

Like, yeah, there's a hundred thousand dollar gap, which at that point was a lot of money for them.

And yeah, we couldn't make it work.

So we just went on to the next day and kind of just

couldn't really figure out what happened.

They were so little.

Oh, that's kind of important.

His brilliance, quote unquote, was the fact that he didn't care about it.

He'd show up to meetings in shorts and messy hair.

There's real stories of major executives coming up.

I've never seen him with well-kept hair.

No.

No, that was his his shtick.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

I'm too smart.

I don't have to care.

I'm not part of your corporate world.

Like these people would come in to invest billions of dollars and he would fall asleep on a beanbag chair outside the office and they would let all these executives in, walk right past him asleep in the beanbag off a chair.

shuttle them into the office, make them sit there for 20 minutes while he was sleeping through the window.

They could see him sleeping in a beanbag chair.

And then he'd like wake up and stumble in and just start.

And like this was part of his magic he was so smart he didn't care about your conventional thinking past oh man that's not who he was no he was above all that he was so smart in one famously recorded um conference call he made a presentation to uh to investors while playing video games at the same time Like, so the entire time they knew he was playing video games, he was like, you know, not looking at the scams, he's looking at the, playing the games, but like talking at the same time and made a presentation.

Look, he could play video games and still make a presentation.

We must give him a billion dollars.

These idiots who, you know, honestly deserve it, but the average customers don't.

They got screwed.

Yeah.

And they were believed it was real, largely because of the institutional investors who put money into it, the big Super Bowl commercials.

Like, I don't know, like, I have a belief like that.

Like, you see someone, they've invested all this money in a Super Bowl commercial.

You think there's something there.

Apparently, there wasn't.

Wow.

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We were just talking about SBF,

Sam Bankman Freed, because he was quite a genius,

a wonder kid.

Big Democratic donor, too.

We haven't even included that.

Donor, yeah, yeah, yeah.

40 mil.

He was going to second only to George Soros.

George Soros was one, Sam Bankman Freed, two, and he was promising a billion dollars if Donald Trump was the nominee to fight against him.

He was going to donate a billion dollars to Democratic causes.

Thinking that's probably not going to happen now?

Yeah.

That's why the left is really mad at him.

They thought they had a billion dollars in their pocket, but no.

Now they don't have nothing.

That's why

George Soros now.

Or, you know,

what's his face, Warren Buffett, Warren, fat piece of crap Buffett.

Maybe he'll come forward with a billion dollars if Trump runs.

I don't know.

But it's not going to be Sam Bankman Freed because he doesn't have it.

I'm pretty sure pretty sure they have not yet indicted him they haven't even charged him with anything yet have they not yet but they i mean i he's in big trouble i i mean yeah it takes a while to unwind this stuff and understand what's going on right i mean so they don't charge them necessarily immediately but i don't see how he avoids this he doesn't really think he's done anything like criminal though does he yeah he he's made some mistakes yeah he basically said you know i blew it i didn't realize i was too focused on other things didn't realize yeah yeah you know how much risk we had i mean he's trying to worm himself out of it, but look, this is, I don't think it's gonna happen.

Really?

Yeah, I think he's itched.

Even with Democrat help, but even with Democrat help, I think he's still gonna get charged.

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