The Bizarre Attempt to Convince Glenn to Endorse Fetterman | Guests: Salena Zito & Alex Stein | 10/28/22

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Okay, let me just give you, I love this.

This comes from the Federalists today.

Everything that Democrats claim is a threat to democracy.

Okay.

Have you noticed that?

Everything seems to be.

Well, here's the list.

Donald Trump, of course, right?

Threat to democracy.

Then Republicans, just generally, just generally, threat to democracy.

Well, first it was mega-Republicans, and now it's just Republicans, okay?

Ted Cruz,

a threat to democracy.

Josh Hawley,

threat to democracy.

Ron DeSantis, of course he is.

He's an extreme threat to democracy, quoting.

Dr.

Oz, an impaired Fetterman who doesn't pose a threat to our democracy, is better than a polished Oz who does.

That's what's at stake here.

Yeah.

Oz is a threat to our democracy.

They're doing their best to find a path through that.

Is this crazy?

Who buys this stuff?

I don't know who buys that.

I will say we have Selena Zito on today.

Oh, who's like the reporter in Pennsylvania on this stuff?

I've not read it yet.

I'm interested to talk to her about it.

I read a new piece.

Yeah, she has a new op-ed piece.

She is one of my favorite reporters because she actually

doesn't live in the big cities.

She lives in Pennsylvania and she just never takes the freeway.

She never takes an airplane.

She will drive to wherever she is to report on something because she wants to get a feel for the real people.

And so when she's doing a story, she just kind of hangs out where all of the real people are.

That way she's not an outsider.

You know, she kind of has a bead on the pulse.

You're describing this like she's an alien.

That's journalism.

What you're describing is journalism.

I know.

That is an alien.

That's what made me laugh.

It's like, the typical reporter now literally just looks at Twitter, searches for their keywords, puts a bunch of tweets in the story, and sends it to the editor.

Right.

And the editor says, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You can't say that.

You got to put in, they're a threat to democracy.

Right.

They insert it.

Selena actually goes and talks to people, and it's why her reporting has been so good, especially in the past couple of years.

And accurate.

Yeah.

Accurate.

Really accurate.

So she's joining us.

Talk about the fallout from the Federman debate.

And she's like the only voice.

I've been waiting to talk to her all week.

She's the only voice I will trust on what's really happening on the ground.

Also, a threat to democracy now is Tudor Dixon.

She's, quote, a huge threat.

to our democracy.

Ron Johnson is a threat to our democracy.

I like this.

Legitimately conducted conducted elections.

The American, Time magazine, American democracy cannot survive unless the far right is marginalized.

Here's how to do it.

Oh, good.

That's an article in Time magazine.

Thank you, Time.

All right.

Appreciate it.

Should Republicans win, they will certainly attempt to end our democracy as we know it in their states.

Obviously, that's definitely the main thing we're looking for.

You know, if anything, the American right has been against the Constitution all this time.

The whole time.

The entire time.

We hate it, and we just don't like it, even though we talk about it all the time to fool you guys.

But generally speaking, we just dislike our system so much.

It's not you guys on the left that are constantly criticizing it and lighting cities on fire.

That's not it.

Do you remember, Stu, when we talked about, let me see if I can pull this up real quick.

Do you remember when we talked about the Fabian

society?

What do you recall from that?

Oh, gosh.

Yeah, start with a window.

Do you remember the window?

Stained glass window?

Oh, wow.

You didn't learn a damn thing.

Well, I wasn't listening to the show.

I should point that out.

No, I do.

It's been a long time.

I watched the show.

I did.

I watched the show a lot.

I've learned a lot back then.

And then other meaningless information has entered my brain and has won the battle against that particular series of shows.

Apparently.

You'll start talking about it all right.

Okay, so listen to this.

So you remember the Fabian Socialists?

Let me just recap.

Fabian Socialist

was started by George Bernard Shaw and a couple of other.

They started the London School of Economics.

Everybody loves the London School.

Oh, the London School of Economics.

Yeah.

You know who's involved in it now?

George Soros.

So it was started.

This school was started by the Fabian Socialists.

And

the shield or their

logo, if you will, is an actual wolf in sheep's clothing.

Not real subtle.

I think we got it here.

But listen to this.

The window expressed, they're talking about this stained glass window, which I didn't know.

I was doing some research on this the other day.

It was stolen in 1978 and it was gone till like 2002.

They didn't know where it was.

And then it shows up at Sotheby's and they sell it.

And I'm wondering, wait, how do you, it was stolen.

Usually stolen stuff doesn't get auctioned.

Doesn't get auctioned.

I have no idea.

Anyway, the window explicitly reflects the goal of the Fabian Society to portray an outward role contrary to its real character, to use deception in pursuing its ultimate aim.

Specifically, a wolf's in sheep clothing is the image that appears in the shield above the world being wrought in the Fabian mold.

The biblical reference comes from the New Testament

where Jesus was warning about false prophets that come in sheep's clothing, but apparently ravaging wolves.

Authors G.

Edward Griffin in his book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, had given voice to this reality that this shield image highlights the distinguishing figure of the feature of the Fabians as compared to the communist.

Fabians desire to create a socialist state using subversive tactics opposed to the communist method of revolution and violence.

We talked about this in 2008, but that's what you're seeing now.

They're just so desperate, and they no longer have the media to give it credibility.

Before,

they used to be able to say, That's a threat to democracy, and the media would parrot that, and everybody would go, That's a threat to democracy.

Now, we're on to the game.

All of the wolves and sheep, we're like, guys,

we see the teeth, we know you're not a sheep.

We know now, and it is it's phenomenal to see, once you wake up, how clear everything becomes.

It's really, I mean, this is biblical.

This is,

I don't know, we're living in an incredible period of history right now.

It's also helpful when they put the actual wolf in sheep's clothing in their logo.

That really is helpful to help us see it clearly.

But still, people in England don't.

People still don't.

I mean, it was the,

you know,

Monster from Jekyll Island, that book, that was the first to really reveal, hey, by the way, look at the window.

It's crazy.

Let's see.

And you know what?

Selena Zito talks about that.

Let me just give you this.

She talks about that in the Fetterman thing.

Where is she?

Here it is.

The painful story of how John Fetterman arrived at Tuesday night's humiliation.

Listen to this.

This is amazing.

Most of the voters watching had surely seen him speak at small rallies where he struggled on the best,

but he seemed okay.

But now they were fully realizing that he was just repeating memorized lines and could not actually comprehend when others tried to converse with him.

Many of those watching had no idea how bad Fetterman's health was, causing disbelief that no one had reported this sooner.

Many were angry that Democrats and reporters knew about this the whole time.

One reporter who did mention Fetterman's inability to converse, NBC News reporter Dasha Burns, was viciously attacked for her dispassionate reporting, not just from Fetterman's campaign and supporters, but also blue check journalists on Twitter and her own NBC News colleague Savannah Guthrie.

Unfortunately, the accurate story about Fetterman instead became a false story about Burns and even an attempt to destroy her career.

This included a veiled threat from Fetterman's wife, who used her large platform to demand an apology from Burns while threatening consequences for her reporting.

One has to wonder what those consequences would have been.

And so the truth about John Fetterman's cognitive abilities remained buried, a secret, but a secret well known to journalists with personal access to him since late July and to those who have observed him failing to comprehend anything his supporters say to him on the rope line.

They said and wrote nothing.

The question is, why?

Were they afraid they would receive the vicious cancel treatment and threats that Burns got?

Were they afraid they would hurt the political team that they were not so secretly rooting for?

Either reason is a stain on the journalistic profession.

Those culpable should really never again mock anyone who questioned the honesty of the press.

Then she goes into how the Democrats were doing the same thing.

This is the way it used to work.

This is why they try everything to silence you.

They do everything they can to control social media.

Because social media really is, talk radio was the only defense.

before social media.

It was programs like this and Rush Limbaugh that allowed you

to talk, allowed the voice of middle America to be heard.

No other format allowed that.

We also, because of Rush Limbaugh, had millions and millions and millions of listeners,

and

that hadn't happened before.

So that was the beginning of the end.

Once,

I mean, I worked, you know, 30 years to gain an audience, learn enough to be able to have people want to hear what I have to say and trust that I'm not a complete idiot.

I am an idiot, but not a complete idiot.

But the audience now has an audience.

You can have an audience.

You most likely do, even if it's a couple hundred on Facebook.

you have an audience every day that's what they've got to stop

because that's the regular person whether they're the crazy guy that nobody talks to down you know on the corner that everybody's like hey kids don't talk to him uh and don't definitely don't take any candy from him he's a teacher um

you know you got that guy

Never, nobody ever heard him, but that guy who's like, you know, pedophilia is not that bad.

He's now got, you know, 5,000 people because there's 5,000 people that believe that.

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I'd rather know who they are.

But the media needs to build those voices up to scare you, to scare you, so you go, somebody's got to stop this.

And you go running into the arms of the people who are trying to silence everybody, not just the pedophiles, everybody.

But now,

because the genie's out of the bottle and with Elon Musk yesterday taking over Twitter, last night, 11 o'clock, he tweeted, the bird is free.

Things are going to change.

You don't trust the media anymore.

What's sad is a lot of people now are getting their news from TikTok.

TikTok.

I've never seen anybody with a clue on TikTok.

By the way, that's another thing.

Did you know that TikTok, the algorithm here, shows us stupid people?

The algorithm for America shows us stupid people, shows us doing stupid things.

We all laugh.

Do you know what the algorithm is for TikTok in China?

The algorithm there highlights young people doing amazing things.

Now, is that a coincidence that they know by showing people doing amazing things in China, it will shape their culture into people going, that's how you become famous, a star, or that's how you succeed.

And ours is, I just ate 12 boogers from my friend's nose.

And that's what makes you a star in America.

I mean, that video in particular was pretty good, but I know what you're saying generally.

Yeah, I mean, I've never seen anybody like that before.

I mean, I was like, he's not going to eat another one.

Oh, he just did it.

Is there possibly a warning sign when I think it's 24% of all young people get their news

directly from the Chinese government?

Do you think that that could have any negative consequences in our future?

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Oh, you don't even remember?

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Hello, hello, you sick twisted freak, and welcome to Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.

Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glenn.

So, Stu.

It's Friday.

What is the biggest story of the week or the thing that is

that everybody should everybody should go?

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

And it doesn't have to be, it could be any story.

Hmm.

Any story.

Any story from the week.

May I jump in here first?

Yes.

John Fetterman's debate.

That was going to be my answer as well.

Oh, crap.

Yeah.

Sorry, I was just giving

time to think of something else.

No.

The Fetterman debate, which I just took from Pat as his idea, but I'd like to comment on your idea if I could.

Sure, go ahead.

Just to give you an update, there's been a couple polls that have come out since the debate.

Oz up.

One has Oz up three.

Another one just released has Oz up two.

That should be six to eight.

I wanted six or seven.

That's what I want.

I was hoping for six or seven.

Now, these are the first couple.

So sometimes after these big cultural events happen, people don't necessarily watch them live.

They see all the clips afterward and everything else, all the conversation afterwards.

So sometimes it takes a little bit to build.

The good news, Oz ahead.

Bad news, I would like to see more.

That's what I would like to see.

But I mean, you had to be just perplexed that this even occurred, weren't you, Pat?

I mean, I can't even believe they let the guy on stage.

I know, and I think they really regret it, even though they're trying to paint it as...

He did just a marvelous job.

Oh, he did so much better than anybody even I did.

Do you remember how they treated Ross Perot's running mate?

General Stockdale.

Stockdale.

Who was fully competent?

Oh my gosh.

But not a politician.

Right.

And they were talking all this politic mumbo-jumbo between the two of them.

And he went, I don't even know why I'm here.

And they, because what he was making a comment on is, I don't do this.

This is ridiculous and everybody knows it.

But the media spun it like, yeah, like you wonder what he was doing.

He didn't know what he was talking about.

He was an admiral, by the way, not a general, but

he was a really well,

accomplished guy with an incredible history.

And they just rattled.

I used to call him Lieutenant Colonel Stockton.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

He had a lot of titles.

He did.

Anyway,

it was amazing what used to happen.

Yes.

And now

they're acting like this is normal.

Yes.

Yes.

And you're supposed to welcome him with open arms.

Oh, what do you hate?

Disabled people all of a sudden?

It's so transparent.

It's so ridiculous.

Yes, I just hate all disabled people.

That's it's like, honestly, it would be like taking your driver's test from a blind man.

Right.

I don't what you don't like blind people now?

Turn here.

Not drive.

Right here.

Now, turn.

It's a house if I turn now.

Turn now.

Okay, not a good idea.

That's a good example, too, because you love blind people.

They're fine.

Nobody has a problem with a blind person.

No.

You just don't want them driving.

Correct.

Correct.

I don't want my Uber driver

to have a giant white stick with a red stripe at the bottom off of the bumper.

He just has trouble processing road signs.

That's all.

That's all.

That's no big deal.

He just just said, I mean,

he's still thinking about how to drive.

He can still move his arms back and forth.

Hey, his feet work fine.

It's just he can't see what the road signs or the dots on the road mean.

He can't process them.

He can't see them.

He just can't process them.

I mean,

can we go lower?

Can we have a lower bar for standards?

Think of that.

Can we?

I think lower.

We can and probably will

very soon.

I can't.

Look what they've gotten us used to already.

You got a president who's compromised.

You've got a Speaker of the House who I think is compromised.

We talked about Dianne Feinstein.

You've got John Fetterman.

I mean, come on.

Yeah.

By the way, speaking of Nancy Pelosi,

our prayers should be on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

Apparently, there was something that happened.

There was a break-in at the house.

Yeah.

And he was beaten.

And was beaten badly.

And he's in the hospital.

They expect him to fully recover.

But yeah, I mean, he's...

What, 82 or something?

That's bad.

Yeah, that's bad.

I have no idea about what the motive was, whether it was a normal break-in or something else.

Who knows?

I mean, we know what the left is saying.

In fact, I'm looking at Twitter.

They're saying it already, that, of course, it was some conservative who broke in to do this.

No.

We don't know anything about it.

And if it was, we won't be like them.

There's no conservative.

Right.

We won't be like them.

We won't predict the news here.

We will just wait for the facts to come out.

But either way, I mean, it's

obviously a terrible, terrible incident.

I mean,

Nancy doesn't live exactly in a bad neighborhood.

This is, you know, everything there now is a bad neighborhood.

Yeah, that's the problem.

I mean, everything is bad now.

And, and these people that, that think that their friends are on the left, you're seeing it.

We saw it with The View this week when, you know, they weren't protesting Ted Cruz.

They were protesting the show, The View, for not covering climate change enough.

And Whoopi screams, you know, hey, let us do our job.

And they, they just disrupted the whole show.

She should have said, hey, we're a bunch of idiots and we don't understand anything, so don't ask us to talk about something complicated.

Is that what it made sense?

You really want them talking about climate?

No, you don't.

Trust me.

No matter what side you're on, you don't want these people

about it.

They don't have a single fact in their heads.

Ever.

I mean, combined.

They don't have a fact in their heads.

It's like, how can we combine the absolute dumbest people in our society on a show?

How do we do it?

Hey, we tried Jersey Shore.

Let's try this.

We've talked about this multiple times.

You remember how

tied up or buttoned up you used to have to be on CNN and Fox?

Oh, my God.

If you would have screwed up the facts every night.

Just one time.

I mean, just one time would have been enough probably to get you off the air.

Oh, that was made very clear to us.

Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah.

I'm the only person to ever lose money working at Fox News because I paid a million dollars a year for my own research team because I checked everything.

It had to be checked, double checked, triple checked before you went with it on this.

He's like, you cannot do it.

And we were lucky.

We worked at CNN, which hated me.

And they would not let the show air live.

And

so we had to tape it.

And sometimes it would take three hours to tape a one-hour show because they'd stop it and say, give me the facts on that.

And we're like, we've already, everything's footnoted.

That can't be true.

Okay, here it is.

And so we'd argue back and forth.

We never changed a word of the script, but they would check everything.

Whereas the witches in the coven on the view just spew out nonsense every single day, and nobody even calls them on it.

And that's a branch of ABC News.

Do you know that?

I do.

ABC News.

That's Barbara Walters show.

Unbelievable.

Yeah.

So anyway,

nobody's listening.

Nobody's watching.

I'd love to see the ratings of The View over the last 10 years.

I don't,

I mean, I don't know why.

I guess because it's on television, I don't know anybody.

Do you know anybody who watches television?

I don't, especially not The View.

Yeah.

I don't know anybody who watches it.

But I don't even know anybody who watches prime time television.

Oh, no.

I don't.

I mean, the only time I turn on, you know, the cable or the satellite is to watch Tucker and football.

Yeah.

That's the only time I watch is for football.

It's crazy.

It is.

So how do these people, I mean, is no one telling them?

Guys, you're losing everybody.

Everybody.

Apparently not.

Apparently not.

Apparently not.

I mean, it's a little difficult to, it's sort of the...

the story of television right now where their their ratings against their opponents daytime talk shows are pretty pretty strong.

Yeah, but

their ratings versus their old ratings are very, very much down.

I mean, their audience is much smaller than it used to be, but as it compares to the other shows, it does pretty well.

Yeah, you want to look at, I don't want to get all technical here, but you want to look at QM.

You want to look at how many eyeballs are watching.

Well, it definitely seems like it's fallen off in dramatic fashion as far as cultural impact.

I mean, there were times where we did this show where it was like the big topic for multiple weeks at a time, the view, where someone would say something stupid usually, and it was like a big deal, and everyone was talking about what they said on the view.

I mean, when's the last time Joy Behar said anything of consequence?

Well, I'd have to go back to the 1400s for Joy Behar of saying something of consequence.

But I mean, when she was like, I'm getting pretty old.

But like, you know, like Elizabeth Hasselbeck, remember when she was on that show?

And like, people, like, there were like big...

blow-ups all the time.

It was a big news story.

Seemingly, every other week, there was a big blow-up on that show.

I guess occasionally when Megan McCain was on there, there were some stories that

evolved every once in a while, but really, I can't remember the last time we heard anything.

The only time we have an eclipse are when Whoopi says something clearly, demonstrably false.

And that's been the one consistent thing since the big show.

She's done that multiple times.

She's a horrible human being.

But I'm not judging her.

Not judging her.

No, no, no.

She'll die.

She'll burn in the fires of hell.

Yeah.

For all time.

But who are we to judge?

Nobody.

You're not a judge.

No one's judge.

You're no one's judge.

I was very disappointed in her when she justified Blackface from her then boyfriend.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was.

We don't bring that up anymore.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Stay with us, Pat, because I want to talk to you about Elon Musk and Twitter.

That may be

the biggest story of the week as well, but we just don't know it yet.

We'll talk about that coming up in just a few minutes.

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So, Elon Musk, he's got a big task.

He's got to figure out how this company that has had more free advertising than any other company in the history of the world, Twitter,

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Also started my morning off with an iced matcha from the push.

Then I had a meeting so quickly scheduled one of these little pod rooms which were so cool.

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Took my meeting, got ready for lunch.

Look how delicious this food looks.

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And then before leaving for the day, had some red wine on

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And just unwinding.

Just

an awesome trip.

She's unwinding from the stress of

unwinding.

Yeah.

Yeah, what a grueling.

What the yoga session.

Grueling, grueling.

Well, and the lunch.

I can't imagine.

Well, they have chefs there, really cut-top chefs.

It looked really good.

And

I can't imagine what he's going to cut.

what could you possibly cut to save money

it's it's wow it's amazing and you know companies are struggling with this now you can't get remember when we used to say yeah wait until they get in the real world yep that's not a thing that's not a thing anymore they got into the real world and they changed it we folded yeah we folded yep you know uh you know i've got to have my uh i've got to have my latte and i need a yoga room there are companies that i know big companies that i know that are you would be privileged to work at.

They're now having to have happy hours and bring in lunch or breakfast just to get people to show up to work.

Unreal.

It's crazy.

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Really.

It is incredible.

I remember we had an executive in at one point from one of the oil companies, a former like CEO of an oil company, one of the big ones.

And he was like, look, you know, we look at this climate thing as like we understand

all this activism is going to happen.

But in the end, you know, people need oil and they're going to wind up, reality is going to hit them in the face.

And it's interesting because I had that view for a long time with like, you know, younger generations who would eventually

like I know I had views when I was 18 that were completely ridiculous that I would look at today and say, oh, God, that was wrong.

But when reality sort of hit me and I grew up and I became an adult and I saw these things happen, I was able to look at reality and adjust my viewpoints.

I don't know that that happens with these generations that have been like drill, it's been drilled into their head, all these crazy things from birth.

So here's what's happening.

It's just on steroids.

The generation, the World War II generation, they were steeped in hard work and everything else.

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The generation that is in their 30s now,

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And the, what is it, the Z generation, whatever, the new generation, Gen Z,

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And they're going to be the ones doing it.

They clean up the mess.

They clean up the mess.

Yeah.

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By the way, Gen Z, they are hardworking and much,

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Oz

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Hello, Selena.

How are you?

Hello, Sunshine.

How are you?

Very good.

You sound tired.

Been working hard?

I have a Tallulah bankhead thing going.

That's called

Spending a Lot of Time on the Road and Talking a Lot of People.

Yeah.

Thank you for that, by the way.

You're the Washington Examiner National Political Reporter.

You are also a columnist for the New York Post and the co-author of The Great Revolt, which explained what happened in 2016.

You get it because you actually talk to people.

You wrote an amazing article

that has just come out, The Painful Story on How John Fetterman Arrived at Tuesday night's humiliation.

I read it on the air

just last hour.

I want to get to that.

But I first want to get your reaction on

what are people saying?

What are the voters saying?

What's really happening on the ground there?

Well, you know, it's a funny story.

I drove all the way out to the debate from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg.

I got there, realized that the only people I would be watching the debate with was other reporters.

and I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to learn anything here.

Drove all the way back halfway across the state and stopped in a bar and

just sat back and observed people watching the debate.

And I think the most

powerful thing about watching those reactions was the watching the realization on their faces that they had no idea that

John Setterman was in this bad of a condition.

Well, they understood because he would do a rally here and there, spoke a couple times.

They understood there was somewhat of a problem, but they didn't, they thought it was speech-related as opposed to cognitively related.

And when he was put in a position where he had to answer questions and provided all the tools available to him and he still struggled, they now realized nobody has been telling them this I mean I have Dasha Burns has but that's about it all the other reporters have just omitted that this is an issue and so as they were talking among each other

they were really frustrated and angry at my profession for not being

demonstrating exactly what the problem is and being honest about what they've seen over the past couple months, but also really mad at other Democrats like Senator Bob Casey, who has stood on the diaus with him in about a half a dozen events, maybe more,

and talked about how terrific shape he's in.

And

he even had the audacity to go on national news after the debate and said, he did a terrific job.

Then you add that with the Philadelphia Inquirer saying that he won the debate.

CNN saying he won the debate.

And you add all that together, and there's this sort of invisible and quiet thing going on with voters saying, y'all are gaslighting us, and we're tired of it.

So is it going to change the way people we are so set in our camps now

that I wonder if anything would change anybody's mind?

Yeah, absolutely.

Will this change their mind?

I saw it.

I saw it happening in real time.

Look, one of the things that was so important about the book, The Great Revolt, it was that it was understood this coalition and this conservative populist coalition that formed long before

Donald Trump ever stepped on the stage and remained intact.

You look at Pennsylvania in 2020.

So what happened?

Joe Biden won.

Joe Biden won barely.

What people did not talk about was that there was a significant red wave down ballot in the congressional races, in the statewide row office races, in the state House, in the state Senate.

That coalition remained

together, once again proving that this was not about Trump.

but it was about their lives, their communities, and how they are impacted.

And I think that remains to be the underlying

or the story that is consistently missed

in reporting.

And I'll give you an example of that.

The other day, did you see the Kentucky coal miner who went to the basketball to watch this?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

By the way, that's something I see all the time.

To me, that was like, yeah, I mean, that's what people do.

But, you know, everyone was like, oh, my God.

But it ran, that image started to

be shared across social media at the exact same time that the Washington Post wrote a story that said why rural Americans are so angry and resentful and why they're voting Republican.

And I thought, this is the perfect example, these two moments together, of how my

profession does not understand the very people that they're covering.

That coal miner was not angry and resentful that he had to go to the game like that.

He was appreciative that he had a job to go to and the ability to leave that job and go sit in a basketball game.

Yeah.

So so you bring up in your well, so wait a minute.

Let me before I go on to this.

The polls show that Oz is now up two to three points.

In normal times, I would have expected that to be six, seven, eight.

But who knows?

What are you thinking about?

Is Fetterman going to win?

Is there going to be enough space between them?

Look,

here's the challenge for Federman.

And by the way, I would say it's been a challenge.

I've been reporting this since mid-September.

Dr.

Oz, who I was incredibly skeptical of

in the beginning when he first announced he was running, has actually proved and matured as a very good candidate.

Someone who goes into those places, as I call

the middle of somewheres and

talks to the voters that nobody thinks about and he listened to them.

I have logged on thousands of miles on the back roads with Oz, watched him in rural areas, watched him in

majority, minority areas, just listening to voters where, by the way, no other reporter would be.

So he's not there to get a photo op.

No one's there.

I'm there.

And he's actually doing it because he wants to understand what the issues are.

So that was a long way of telling you that I have always thought that John Fetterman was losing voters incrementally, but losing them.

Remember, he was up 12 percentage points.

But he also has no ability to gain voters.

And it's not just based on his

on his illness.

You know, I've been doing, I don't know if anybody's reading it, but I've been reporting that

as mayor, the whole sort of elevated story that you saw in the Rolling Stone and The Atlantic and the New York Times, these glossy, beautiful pieces about how he saved this

borough in southwestern Pennsylvania.

I've been covering him since 2005.

He didn't save that town.

He was barely ever there.

He didn't attend the events.

He really had very little power to begin with.

Crime went up, population declined, and the heart and soul of that town, the hospital, where there was the only sit-down restaurant for people to go to in the cafeteria, was

torn down.

I hope people go to SelenaZeo.com and read the reporting that I've been doing.

I know I'm not on social media,

but that reporting has

been there for months.

I saw the story on that when it came out.

And how do the people of the town feel when they're hearing, hey, he saved our town?

Well, that was the beauty of that story.

That wasn't me telling everyone that.

That was them saying that.

They talked about how their town didn't get better.

They talked about no jobs coming in.

They talked about the people that have fled to get out of there because there's no hope and there's no opportunity.

And they talked about it always being just about him and never about them and they talked about him going after one of their neighbors a um a young black man who was jogging and he put a shotgun to his chest and kept him there because he thought he was some sort of um because he thought

yeah and and by the way that young man's life has been destroyed That young man's life has been destroyed, and he has never been apologized to.

Or the time that he went up to a local bar, a nightclub, owned, by the way, by a black entrepreneur and changed the wording on the signs at 2 o'clock in the morning and a camera caught it

saying that it was closed and not opened because he deemed it unworthy to be opened in the town.

These are the stories that people of Braddock will tell you.

Not the stories, not me saying this.

This is them saying this.

That's why I think that reporting is so important,

let alone that he didn't pay his taxes in the poorest school district, in one of the poorest school districts in the state, he didn't pay the school tax.

And, you know,

it frustrated me every time all these glossy stories were put out there, you know, with him standing in front of a steel mill.

At the same time, his parents were paying for his education.

I mean, paying for his family's lifestyle.

You know, it's amazing to me.

He reminds me of,

in many ways, Karl Marx.

Karl Marx was a horrible human being that never paid a dime of his own way.

He practically bankrupt his parents.

He lived off his parents and then his family for his whole life.

Never really accomplished anything.

Oh, my gosh.

That's astounding.

I can't even imagine not wanting to have purpose in your life in that way, other than the purpose of power, which is what I believe that it is this has always been about.

Okay, so Selena, hang on just a sec, because

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And I want to talk to you about the press and the Democrats that have stood by.

It's what you brought up in your latest article on the Washington Examiner.

And I'd love some answers on

what do you think is really happening there?

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Okay, so we're talking to Selena Zito.

Selenazito.com is her web address, but she writes for the New York Post and also the Washington Examiner.

When in 2016, when you nailed what was happening, you were the only one that the media went, how did she get this so right?

And you wrote a book about it.

You went to work for CNN as a contributor there.

And I know you, Selena.

I know

you probably walked in at first hoping that people will actually listen and get it.

And then they didn't.

And thus they're down the toilet even more.

Why are they not looking?

Why are they not exposing things like Fetterman?

Are they afraid?

Or are they afraid of being ostracized by

their own group?

Or is it that they just won't do it because they're on the bandwagon?

So

I have an entire chapter about this in my book, and I think that it's probably the one that people should really, really read.

It's called a culture craving respect.

And the problem with my profession is the same problem that you see in corporate America, in major news organizations, but also in institutions and governments, but also even in

sports organizations, in that the people in the boardrooms

are all come from the same, they all live in the same super zip codes.

What do I mean by super zip codes?

The wealthiest counties in the country.

They all went to the same great schools.

Now they may have come from Iowa, but they left that far behind once they got to D.C.

or New York.

And so what happens is when they go to whether it is write a story or do a commercial or make a boneheaded decision like the NFL did and

let Colin Kaeperdick do whatever he wanted despite having a contract that said you cannot do this is because they don't they are so disconnected from the people who read their stories who buy their tickets who sit in their seats that is the larger problem right that's where the problem begins it began at the same time where more companies kept buying up smaller companies so there's less co local connection to the people who buy your products but also local news organizations started to shudder

and and so people had to gravitate to buying their items and or reading their news from places that don't know them They don't know anyone that sits in a pew every Sunday.

They don't know anyone that says a prayer before dinner.

They don't know anyone that owns a gun.

They don't know anybody who used a gun.

And so

because of that, when they plop into a place,

they seem like a freak show.

They look at the paper and say, y'all are a freak show.

I have one minute.

I have one minute.

The reporter that her job was threatened, I mean, she was just beat up by everybody from NBC.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And she folded.

Was that a message?

Did everybody who was covering this know clearly how bad Fetterman was?

Yes, they did.

I

watched them watch the same things I've seen.

They knew.

They always knew.

Sasha Burns is a very good reporter, and I will sing her praises forever because she has kept on that story, and she continues to keep on the story.

I would keep an eye on her.

And I think it's interesting that it's a young woman and a 63-year-old grandma that only have the nerve to write this stuff.

Okay, one last question, 10 seconds.

Fetterman going to win or Oz?

What?

I think it ends up being Oz.

I hope you're right this time.

Thank you so much, Selena.

God bless, and we'll follow your reporting.

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You're welcome.

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this is what it says on my sheet here from my producers.

A comedian attempts to convince Glenn to endorse John Fetterman.

Go at it, Michael.

And I know you're doing this just because you think Fetterman in office would be fun.

No, that's not correct.

That's not correct.

Actually, and I also want to point out something else.

I had a correction issued from Vice magazine, which had said correction in a previous article, Michael Malis was identified as a comedian.

Right.

So I am not,

Michael.

Well, that's why I'm on this show

where humor goes to die and common sense.

All right, all right, all right.

So why, why are you going to try to convince me to vote for John Fetterman?

I don't think, I'm not going to convince you to vote for him because you're not in Pennsylvania, but I will convince you that it's a good thing that he defeats Dr.

Oz and for a couple of reasons.

Would you agree with me that it is a superior situation for America that we went Obama, Obama, Trump than if we had gone Obama, Romney, Romney in the elections?

Yes.

So if you went back in time to 2012 and you told yourself, Glenn, quit now, you're going to be a mess in 10 years.

But other than that, you should prefer, and get rid of Stuke because he's out of control, but you should prefer.

that Obama take this election because it's going to work out in the long term.

You would have thought you were crazy, but that would have been the correct result right okay so wait wait wait wait wait am i no no no no i'm leading the you're on the road sir

no i could i may i speak

yeah it's yeah go ahead all right um i stopped i stopped uh trying to figure out uh long-term strategies after trump because i realized You know what?

It'll all work out for the best.

Just do the next right thing.

And you'll never convince me that the next right thing is to have John Fetterman in.

I can convince you very easily, and this is why, because the only power the Republican base has over the Republican Party is to refuse to put rhinos into Congress.

That is their only power.

We saw it in 2016, where establishment candidate after establishment candidate was the stop Trump candidate.

We're seeing it now in 2022, where Mitch McConnell is pulling money from New Hampshire when Bolditch has a chance against Maggie Hassen, if it's a wave election, and he's putting into whatever North or South Carolina, which is definitely going to go to Republican, because Mitch McConnell wants that vote that's going to be more loyal to him than towards the MAGA wing and to the American people.

So, if you are going, hold on, let me just finish.

If you're going to take losses somewhere or other, it's better to have that loss be a Democrat who can't even talk than, let's suppose, a Barack Obama who's charismatic or Nancy Pelosi who is a good parliamentarian.

Okay, except I don't think he would serve out his full term, and that might put his wife in the...

That's fine, but the point is, Oz would

say one more sentence.

If you're on the debate stage saying that your goal is to work with the Democrats and your goal is to tighten up background checks, you know perfectly well how this person is going to govern.

But this is this is wait, but your point being that the anti-Trump candidates, right, were the establishment people, but

this is Trump's pick.

right?

This is Trump's guy.

Trump endorsed Romney twice.

Trump only cares if someone returns his calls.

Silence, exactly.

You have nothing to say.

Okay, well,

I don't know why I have all of you.

John Servant in office would be very, very bad.

That'd be very bad.

Would be

very bad.

Why do you want a confident Democrat?

Do you want someone who's good at being a Democrat?

No, no, no.

No.

If we have to have an incumbent Democrat, one that is terrible, in some ways, would be preferable because maybe they'd be easier to beat.

This is also a strategy that's been attempted by the Democrats multiple times and it has not worked out particularly.

We have Joe Biden on the same strategy.

I don't want another incompetent person in there.

Would you rather have Obama in the White House right now than Joe Biden?

No.

Oh,

interesting.

It's hard to think about that.

Isn't it a good thing that Dianne Feinstein, according to the New York Post, was told three times by Chuck Schumer that she has to retire, and she agreed three times, and three times she forgot about the conversation?

Isn't that a good thing?

Yes, it is.

It is.

Isn't it a good thing when the Democratic Party is regarded as a laughingstock as Jon Stewart made the Bush administration for eight years instead of some organization that people can look up to and admire?

Look, Michael,

Michael, listen to me.

Listen to me.

These are all good things if it's not a good night on election night or a bad election day on the next morning, having you on saying these things will go, you know what?

You're right.

It is a good thing that Betterman's in there.

You're right.

Save that.

Save that.

Because I'll need that.

Is there any situation where you would prefer that the Democratic candidate win over the Republican candidate?

I think this, and this is speaking for myself here, I usually am incredibly, I hate partisanship.

This particular election, I'm more partisan than normal because I want there to be an ability to stop what they are doing.

The fact is like Dr.

Oz, as I've stated a thousand times, is not the candidate that I want as a Republican senator.

However,

these votes matter, and the fact that we may have Supreme Court justices that they're going to be able to push through and things of that nature, I think are really important.

So control of the Senate matters to me.

If we can get up to 54, 55 senators, then you're looking at a potential filibuster-proof majority in 2024.

Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

So I do think there are reasons for this, yes.

So despite you just saying you're not a partisan, you're saying the only, just to be clear, the only times you're comfortable with a Democrat taking a seat is if there's 60 Republicans?

No, no, no.

I'm comfortable with a Democrat.

Like if Joe Lieberman decided to run, I'd be like, you know, okay, he's pretty good.

Is he?

Joe Lieberman.

He voted for Obamacare.

Just because he criticized the Democrats?

You're happy with Joe Lieberman?

No, that's the older Joe Lieberman.

He's good on some things.

He was good on some things.

I at least agreed with him

at times, and he did have his own mind.

I'm going to say why Fetterman is good on some things.

Okay.

And you're not going to disagree with me.

The only time there's an effective anti-war coalition in Congress is when you have a Republican president, and that's when the Democrats become anti-war.

In every other circumstance, both parties are tripping over themselves to support imperialism and the war state.

And that's one thing Federman would be good for.

I don't think

I think.

We have Democrats in office now.

They're all throwing how many billions of dollars of the United States.

Like I said, if you had a Republican president, that's the only time there's an anti-war coalition in Congress with that.

Yes, I know.

Republican presidents have led many, many wars.

Right.

And the only time they have opposition is with the left wing of the Democrats.

Yeah, but having opposition, but the war still happens isn't a positive.

No, I know, but what he's saying, no, no, no.

But what he's saying is if we had, and I don't think the same would be true with Donald Trump, and I think this is changing.

I think there are a lot of conservatives are actually changing

where they're like, what?

What is, can we learn our lesson here?

This doesn't work.

Get out of these.

You're not learning your lesson because you keep voting in rhinos.

And Oz is the king of that.

He had his show for 10 years.

He had never stood up for conservative principles on his show once.

He's Oprah Winfrey's puppet, and Oprah Winfrey single-handedly got Barack Obama the nomination.

It would be nice if I'm surprised Oprah Winfrey has not come out and helped Dr.

Oz at all.

It wouldn't help.

Well, she supports

Pennsylvania.

Otherwise, she won't be black.

What's that?

She has to support Biden or else she wouldn't be black.

That's true.

You're right.

You're right.

I always forget that you're not really black, Claus.

It's in the Constitution if I'm so microphonic.

Let me ask you this.

What were your thoughts when you watched him?

Because

it wasn't funny at all.

It was really sad, but it made me also angry to watch the.

It was extremely funny because he opened up the debate by saying, hello, good night.

And this shaved chewbacca that they...

His wife blocked me because she's like, oh, John Fetterman said, I don't remember the Statue of Liberty.

I said, he he doesn't remember anything, you sadistic witch.

It is despicable.

It is despicable that his family and his team put a broomstick up his bum and put him in front of that mic when any other candidate could have served that purpose because they're not really voting for Fetterman.

You're voting for a Democratic vote, right?

Like, you don't really need the staff will run

the Senate office.

So even if he can't even talk, it doesn't really matter.

We saw that with Storm Thurman third the end when he was literally 100 years old.

Yeah,

you're seeing that with what's your name?

You're just talking about in California.

Yeah.

You're seeing the same thing.

That is the biggest

threat to democracy.

They keep saying, oh, there's a threat to democracy.

They don't actually care about deliberation.

They only want people in there.

They'll take them brain damaged, you know, on a stretcher, almost dead.

They, Stu just said he will support the Republican in any circumstances until they're dealt with.

Not what I said at all.

What I said was, I'm not a partisan, which, by the way, true, I'm not a registered Republican or Democrat.

I voted third party all the time.

My point is only in this election, what I'm rooting for, not necessarily what I'm voting for, what I'm rooting for is an end.

Freaking the end of Democratic control of the Senate.

This should not be a controversial viewpoint on this particular program.

It's not.

Hang on just a sec.

I am with him on this because we are at the end of the Republic.

And I know that makes some people happy.

It doesn't make me happy.

I'd like to, before we burn it down, I'd like to see, can we get it on the track enough and find, you know, find an Elon Musk that will come in and go, yeah, we're firing all you people.

I am just shocked that we got Stu to admit on air that he's a member of Andrew Yang's Forward Party.

This is where you're an anarchist.

But here we are.

This is where you're an anarchist.

You come up and you just stir it all up and then you leave.

This is why John Fetterman's wise wife blocked you.

By the way, real quick, what do you think the changes are going to mean?

Anything substantial with Twitter?

Yes, I think that for a long time, corporate journalists and academic professors who were, I, you know, refer to as members of the enemy class, they were taking loss after loss after loss on Twitter because for the first time they had accountability.

They're not in their offices where they kind of protected against criticism.

And now without having that shield in front of them, they're really going to have a come to Jesus moment with their depravity and malfeasance.

And it's going to be absolutely glorious to watch them throw tantrums for the next couple of years.

So does on Monday, he said the change, some changes are going into effect, the first changes.

Babylon B, Donald Trump, who's back?

I hope Trump waits until after the midterms because this is just going to give the Democrats an issue and distraction from inflation and abortion and all this unspending.

So we can worry about Trump on November 9th.

I really hope he has that presence of mind to keep his mouth shut just for another two weeks.

Michael Malas, thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Michael.

It was a pleasure, guys.

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He's such a jerk.

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He just loves to stir up.

He's going to be on the coverage.

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Yeah.

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stop with the clever voting.

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It doesn't ever work out.

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No, no, no.

John Roberts, I'm waiting for John Roberts.

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I remember that right after the

what he's going to do.

Shut up.

Right.

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I don't.

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Yeah, just do just it.

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Yeah, people get so like, what if we elect this person who will then lose to that person who will then be thrown out of office and then my cousin Jimmy will get the seat?

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I never know what's going to happen with Alex Stein.

It's already been a rough day.

Wouldn't you say?

It's been an adventure.

The roller coaster write-up of it.

Already.

Already.

Well, today's Unorthodox 2.

It's an honor and a privilege, but then you got a gala going on here, so the place is

wild you got 10 different people running in and out with chairs superman outfits i mean it's nuts at blaze right now we told them that they had to wear the superman outfit to be able to bring the chairs in so that makes sense yes that's super true chairs look really heavy so uh alex is the host of conspiracy castle

uh he is a blaze tv contributor prime time

99 Alex Stein.

I just did something with you on television last week, and I played some of the clips of you where you go in and you'll go into city council meetings and you I don't know how you pull this off with a straight face for as long as you do because they're absurd.

What you're saying is absurd and everybody just acts like it's not.

Well, I mean,

we live in an absurd world.

So people, you know, are having trouble deciphering what is real and what is fake.

And, you know, my comedic hero is Andy Kaufman.

So really, I'm just kind of a hack.

I'm just, you know, basically mixing absurdity and reality.

And in the culture we live in today, you can't tell what is going on.

You can't.

You can't.

So, you were just up at a campus.

You were going to give a talk with what's his name?

Gavin McInnes.

Yeah, Gavin McInnes.

And they actually spat on you.

Literally, literally.

And it was a pretty, this girl, she'd been practicing.

That was not a first-time spitter.

Can we play the video here?

I just want to say, you guys

are poor representation of the youth of our nation.

Let's go!

Let's go!

Let's go, baby!

On play baby!

I am insane, yeah.

Why is everybody like

here?

I should have been a born!

This is so scarred!

This is the future of our country.

These are the brightest bulbs.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh, that was that.

She had a lot of spin.

Yeah.

So she's

got to get you an audio person.

Yeah.

That's that's a good idea.

Yeah, the audio.

Well, no, no, no, it was crazy like that.

It was just the mic was a little too close to my mouth.

Yes, we did realize that.

We know what costs the question is in this business.

All right, you guys control me.

I'm the troll.

No trolling me.

Mike was not perfect.

I was in a war zone.

If I'm in Kabul, Afghanistan, I'm sorry if the audio is not perfect, Stu.

I apologize.

Okay, so you were at Penn State

and they wanted you not to be at Penn State.

They don't understand freedom of speech at all.

Are you going to do anything about it?

I mean, not the spitter.

I mean, the spitter is just.

No, she's a young kid.

I mean, I'm not going to go after her.

That would be punching down.

But no, I am going to file a civil rights lawsuit against Penn State University because they said they had a lot of kickback, Glenn, before the event saying, oh, it should be shut down.

It should be shut down.

And the university administrator said, oh, well, we're going to go on with it.

We believe in free speech.

We're state universities.

They're publicly funded.

They have federal money.

So they're held to a different standard than these private colleges.

Once they shut it down, you know, that made them liable to a lawsuit.

But this is the problem.

When you're in that group, Glenn, you're a fascist.

You're a fascist.

I said, well, define a fascist for me.

And I think Benito Mussolini defined fascism as the merger of corporation and state.

I'm anti-establishment.

I don't want corporation and state together at all.

But these kids do.

So it's all projection.

It's Sololinsky's Rules for Radicals, where you accuse the enemy of doing what you're actually doing.

And this is a clear-cut example of these kids being confused and not even knowing.

It's like the dog that chases the car.

Once it catches up to the bumper, it doesn't know what to do with it.

So

this is the future.

And we we used to say, yeah, we'll wait until they get into the real world.

That's over.

They are in the real world now.

And we're the ones having to change.

I saw a poll recently about freedom of speech, and everybody says they're for freedom of speech.

But there's a good now, I believe, majority of people under 40 that are saying, yeah, but I mean, some free speech.

should put you in jail.

Yeah, which is ridiculous.

And if you look at on Twitter right now, now with Elon Musk taking it over and giving us the impression that we're going to have free speech, people are going nuts.

They're so excited.

But then the people on the left, Glenn, are melting down.

And that's where I'm like, why are these people, these blue check marks, afraid of letting human beings say however they feel?

And that's the problem is they don't want you to be able to say how you actually feel.

Well, so today is going to be interesting the next few weeks really on Twitter because I just have this great urge just to go, I've

remected is the best.

Oh, yeah.

And, you know, people will push the boundaries of free speech, which, you know, there has to be responsibility.

With every right, there's responsibility.

Let's not do that.

That's not necessarily good for society.

Well, my favorite is a guy, or excuse me, a woman, Rachel Levine.

And Rachel Levine, who was born Dick Levine.

And if you say Rachel Levine is a man on Twitter, you can get kicked off Twitter.

As a matter of fact, Babylon B, that's why their account got suspended for just saying basically a fact.

I mean, Rachel Levine, although she's one of the most beautiful administrators we've ever had, she's a man.

That's a dude, baby, as Austin Powers said.

I don't know if that's how he said it, but if you say that.

That's a man.

That's a man, man.

That's it.

You're sharper than me, Glenn.

But I'm just saying, it's just, you can't even point out the elephant in the room.

So when you say the ivermectin, you say the sudden adult death syndrome, you say any of that type of stuff.

On Twitter, you're subject to removal.

Although that ends today, in theory.

Well, Elon Musk said...

We'll see.

Elon Musk said the bird is free.

At 11 o'clock, he tweeted last night.

The bird has been freed.

Well, you know, and I take it back to the midterms, too.

It's like, you know, now that they give us the impression that we have free speech, oftentimes I think they can even censor us more.

It's like we see potentially we're going to have a red wave in the coming up election.

But because of all the legislation that the Biden administration and Biden administration has put in for the past two years, we can't even get in office and change everything.

So that will all lay on the laps of conservatives.

So when the economy crashes and everything goes to crap, they're going to say, well, you guys had all the control.

You guys did it all.

You know, this is all a Republican conservative problem.

I said this a couple of weeks ago.

You watch.

They've been denying that we're in a recession.

They've been denying that there's any kind of problems.

Jobs are fine.

We've all been saying, no, they're not.

This is going to get worse from here.

Now, Biden is already setting up.

I'm telling you, if you give the Congress and the Senate to the Republicans,

it's going to get worse.

Yeah, and you look at our economy.

I mean, the idea that anybody can buy a single-family home, people can't.

I mean, people can't afford the groceries.

People can't afford, you know, to fill up the gas tanks.

So, you know, people are struggling right now and they're asking for help, but all they can do is give an

80 more billion dollars to Ukraine.

I mean, it's just absurd that these people, they don't want to help us.

I think everything they're doing is a controlled demolition of the American system, especially the idea that why are they taking us off energy independence?

The oil and gas industry can lift up this entire world.

We could basically supply it just here in Texas.

Why are we not doing that?

Why are we not taking advantage of the things that would make our country, which was the most powerful country in the world?

I don't know if that's the case any longer.

How old are you?

35.

35 years old.

I I was just sobering up when I was 35.

Well, you know, do you say that, Glenn?

That changed my life.

I quit drinking when I was 31, and that was the biggest change in my life.

That was, and everybody out there, I'm not trying to be a, you know, a

negative Nancy.

I know everybody wants to have their fun, but alcohol and drugs is a lifestyle that will only make you more depressed and it will only ruin your life.

Destroy it.

Just destroy it.

And once you can take a step back, because you can't see it, you know, you can't see the force for the big tree in front of your face.

If you're out there and you're struggling, take a break, take a month off, take a couple of weeks off.

But, you know, in society with the fentanyl and the drug crisis, everybody has a problem they want to medicate.

So I think, sadly, the drug problem is only going to get worse.

I was reading Ryan Holiday's new book, which is about discipline.

And one of the things he talks about, because he doesn't drink at all, and he talks about

how the best way to make a decision as to whether you should continue a habit that's questionable to you is to think about it as if it came out today and you knew everything about it, would you still make the decision?

Like if alcohol was released in stores tomorrow for the first time, with all the information that we already know about it, would you start drinking tomorrow?

Yes.

Yeah.

Margaritas are fun, too.

Everybody wants to have a margarita.

Yes, I would.

No, but I think that's a really wise way of looking at that because you know, most of these things, they become like drinking is cultural, right?

Like, I, you know, I drink certainly a little bit more than you guys at this point, but not a lot.

You know, I'm not, but a social drinker.

I'll have a drink or two if we go out to dinner or whatever.

And often you go out and it just feels like, all right, everyone else is ordering a drink.

I should order a drink.

And that's just dumb cultural pressure.

Penn Gillette said the same thing.

You know, he just came to that point where he was like, you know what?

I don't care anymore.

I'm not going to be embarrassed about not ordering a drink.

I think you guys are on the other side of this where maybe, you know, you've had a Glenn certainly, I don't know, Alex as well, but like you had a real problem with this.

It was ruining your life.

It was destroying your life.

I mean, look at what it made you today.

So you had that and you came on the other side and you said, hey, all right, like now I can look at this and see see how absurd these things were because you went through that pain.

Most people don't go through that pain.

I never had any, never had any negative consequences from drinking other than a couple of bad headaches and a vomit or two.

So like you get, but you realize it's just a dumb decision overall.

It doesn't improve your life.

It doesn't make it give you any long-term prospects of growth per se.

It's just something we do because it's culturally there.

If I would have bought stock in Jack Daniels or Makersmark,

I would have made a lot of money.

Buy stock in it all you want.

I'm convinced.

I'm convinced.

Just me alone drove that company.

Well, to your point, Stu, and I always say this, you know, and I stole this from Charles Barkley in the 80s.

I'm not a role model, so I don't want to give anybody necessarily advice.

But the first piece of advice I will give everybody as I say that, do not worry about the opinions of others.

That's what we try to do.

Nobody cares.

Even your person that's probably, you know, they say, you know, what is your biggest fan is a stranger and your biggest, you know, enemy is probably somebody real close to you.

So, worrying about the opinions of strangers, just be yourself.

You know, I saw an interview with Larry King right before he passed away, and they said, What is some advice for future broadcasters?

And he said, Kid, just be yourself.

And I think that, you know, you could extrapolate that for everybody.

Just be yourself.

That doesn't mean be a jerk or, you know, be an ale, but just be yourself and be unapologetically yourself.

And I will tell you that,

especially with drinking, I don't know if you were like this, but you didn't really have a problem with it.

Not necessarily drinking.

When I stopped drinking, misery loves company.

Nobody likes your good friends.

I lost most of them and I ended up with stew.

This is not a commercial sobriety.

Most of your friends, they like you the way you are.

And when you say, hey, I'm cleaning up, but you do whatever you want.

It doesn't bother me.

I'm just making this choice for me.

A lot of my friends,

they weren't for it.

It's a scarlet letter for whatever reason because you're not on the same level.

You're not the one getting intoxicated.

It's weird.

Yeah, it's really, really strange.

So where are you going from here?

What's the next?

Well, I'm headed to Florida, but I got another speaking engagement in the spring at University of Tennessee under the same group, Uncensored America.

So we'll see.

I'm sure the, you know, I'm sure the college kids will be out in full force with their pitchforks.

But at the same time, Glenn, you know, people say, oh, it's so scary.

It's really not that scary.

Getting, you know, people yelling at you,

I love it.

You know, I love confrontation.

So, for me, it's like if I could do this every weekend, Glenn, I'm ready to get on the plane.

Let's go on primetime 99.

Let's yell and scream in my face.

Only because you know, you look at all those kids, you see every single one of them, you're like, oh, those kids are insane.

Well, the only person more insane than those kids was me, primetime 99, Alex Hines.

So, I'm even crazier than they are.

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So did you watch the Fetterman debate?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it was embarrassing.

The only person that liked the debate more than any conservative is Dr.

Oz.

I mean,

he's a real champion.

I think that took great restraint from Oz because Fetterman was a jerk.

from the get-go.

He's not only having a hard time processing things,

the one thing, he's a lot like my grandfather,

my dad's father, who was a jerk in real life.

And then when he had a stroke, he was just mean.

And I kind of got that from Fetterman, too.

I think he's kind of a mean guy.

Oh, for sure.

And his wife, Jersey Giselle, she's not very likable either.

But, you know, what I've noticed on Twitter now with all the blue check marks, they're saying if you tease Fetterman, they're saying, oh, well, you cannot make fun of him.

You're an ableist.

You're an ableist for making fun of him.

And that we need more stroke victims, you know, in politics.

It's just, you know, there's a big elephant in the room.

And if we point to the elephant, you're racist or you're bigoted.

What does it tell you about the Democrats

that

they already have Feinstein?

They have Nancy Pelosi, who is, you know, arguably

not safe.

You have Joe Biden and now Fetterman.

I mean, they say they believe in the individual and democracy.

I don't think so.

I think they would line up a whole bunch of zombies if they would just vote the way everybody told them to vote.

Well, that's obvious.

Did you see the runway footage of Chuck Schumer talking to Joe Biden?

And he said, you could, you know, hear him wording that the debate didn't hurt us that much.

These people do not care about these actually candidates.

I mean, if they would, they would put the best candidate forward.

But the fact that John Fetterman is one of the most important Senate seats in Pennsylvania and he is their best choice, that's just kind of a shocking, sad realization that Lurch is going to be running the country.

I mean, come on.

I really think

he looks like Frankenstein from Young Frankenstein.

I really, if Gene Wilder was around, maybe somebody can do this just, you know, with Photoshop, but I'd like to see Fetterman dressed in the tuxedo on stage doing putting on the Ritz

from the movie Young Frankenstein, don't you remember?

Putting on the Ritz!

You don't remember?

Somebody look it up.

It is John Fetterman.

And Glenn, one of the movies that was shot here was Adam's Family Values, which is a great movie.

And he looks like a character out of Adam's Family Values.

I mean, he literally looks like.

Something like a lurch situation going on.

Yeah, I mean.

I mean, the guy, his tie wasn't.

I mean,

how do you even consider a guy who lived until what?

He was 40 or 50 in his parents' basement.

Well, and I brought up this was too.

How did he even become the lieutenant governor?

How did that even?

I don't know.

How did he become mayor?

In the town that he was mayor, they lost 40% of their population.

Their population went down to 1,700 people.

So, I mean, the guy is, and it's similar to Beto Arour.

I mean, these people, they can lose elections and somehow they fail upwards.

It's insane.

I love him.

He's always talking about gun violence and all the things he did.

Dr.

Oz never did anything to stop gun violence.

You were a mayor of a city of 1700 people.

How much?

I've lived in a small town growing up that was like 10 times that size.

Like, well, how, there's no gun violence there.

How much gun violence was there in this town?

Well, I know that there was a black man running through his neighborhood.

He didn't have a gun, but Fetterman did and held him at gunpoint.

He stopped doing that.

That's true.

He did stop that one time.

Well, and speaking of gun violence, I think if Paul Pelosi might have had a gun, his situation would have been a little better in San Francisco.

Either him or somebody around him.

I mean, like, that is a terrifying situation.

We don't know anything about who did it.

We all know what's happening on Twitter where every Republican that has ever been born is already being blamed for it.

So congratulations, everyone.

I apologize.

Yeah, but like, in reality,

how is there not more protection on Nancy Pelosi's home?

That's absolutely inexcusable.

Of course, there should be.

It only takes one idiot, right?

It only takes one person.

Even if she was not famous, she's very, very wealthy.

You should have some security there.

And these are to protect yourself.

These are the same people that said January 6th is worse than 9-11.

So, I mean, come on.

If you're going to protect yourself, if they believe that, she would be protected.

If they believe that, then she would be protected as if her house was Fort Knox.

Alex Stein, thank you.

Always a pleasure.

It's an honor and a pleasure.

It's good to have you here.

And you'll be joining us on election night.

Yes, sir.

I'll be there.

And we got some bits, some wild stuff coming.

So make sure to tune in, guys, because we're going to be going insane for the Ukraine.

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Ah,

let me give you a couple of things.

First, an update on the missing ABC News employee who disappeared.

Rolling Stone Magazine

wrote

an article

about

this guy's disappearance.

They don't know where he is.

He was picked up by the FBI in April, and nobody saw him after that.

Here's the latest.

According to Rolling Stone, who first reported the FBI's raid and Meek's mysterious disappearance, immediately thereafter, Meek was allegedly suspected of possessing classified documents in his personal computer, which, by the way, you cannot arrest a journalist and you can't take their computer on that, at least without letting the attorney general or assistant attorney general know about it.

But now, according to a more recent report published by the Daily Beast, which is complete, which has even far less credibility than Rolling Stone.

The battle of the absolute bottom of the barrel of journalism here between Rolling Stone and Daily Beast.

Meek's disappearance, his abrupt resignation from ABC News, and the FBI's raid on his apartment are not connected.

Sources who spoke to the Daily Beast, we don't know who they are, revealed that Meek is not only safe and living with his mother, but he also resigned as the network's investigative

producer to avoid embarrassment.

Meek reportedly told friends at ABC that he left for personal reasons and in an effort to save colleagues in the company any embarrassment.

How come any of the colleagues have, why are the colleagues saying that they have no comment on this?

They don't know.

Why are his friends saying what happened to him.

We haven't seen him.

And like,

because the only other theory we came up with at the time was like, okay, maybe he's going through some real, you know, personal harm.

Like, you know, he's, I don't know, has a drug problem or has

just throwing out whatever.

One of those types of things.

That wouldn't embarrass ABC News.

No.

There'd be no reason for that to hide embarrassment of ABC News.

Like, that has nothing to do with it.

The only thing, I mean, what would embarrass ABC News?

A scandal with their reporting.

Yeah,

he's making stuff up.

Right, something like that.

And if that's true, this makes this story even worse because ABC News is hiding the scandal.

Correct.

They're hiding the scandal.

And the FBI

picked this guy up as he's writing a book about how disastrous things were in Afghanistan.

The FBI still has not responded.

We can't get any family members to respond.

We're getting a dog that just never lets go of a bone next week.

I'm asking him now.

Hopefully he'll be on next week.

But I know somebody who will not

rest until this is figured out.

By the way, Twitter taken over by Elon Musk,

the sink thing.

We don't even know what that was, Elon.

It was very strange.

The really bad

joke joke?

Yeah, like a bad dad pun.

Him coming to work and let that sink in.

And then he walks in the door with a sink.

Whoa, that is.

Because I thought this guy was like this rock star rebel.

And then I saw that and I was like, maybe he just

got a doubles pickleball match around the corner.

And

it was very strange.

It was very strange.

Because it's not him.

No, this is a guy who gets flamethrowers and puts rockets in space and goes zero to 60

seconds.

He's the real life Tony Stark.

Yeah.

Okay.

It was just so bad.

Yeah.

Who would vibe?

Again,

he's a quirky character, so maybe he just loves his pipes.

I don't know, I don't know.

Here's Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden on the tarmac outside Air Force One.

Schumer telling him that the Pennsylvania debate didn't hurt him too much, and they're picking up steam in Nevada, and that should

that it would be hard to believe that Georgians would go for Herschel Walker.

Listen, it looks like the debate didn't hurt us as much in Pennsylvania as it tonight, so that's good.

And

the

You know, you can barely understand him here,

but

it's hard to believe that Georgians would go for Herschel Walker.

Why?

Why is that hard to believe if you just put a guy who cannot speak or think on the stage and it didn't affect things?

Why do you think it's hard to believe that Georgians would go for Herschel Walker?

Yeah, a state that's been red mostly all of this time.

And also they're running

a statewide hero.

Herschel Walker is one of the most beloved figures until this race.

Everybody in Georgia loved him.

Now only half of the people love him.

But

look,

there's a reason why he got that seat and why the Republicans were so excited to run him.

He has a great reputation

in the state.

And also is much more closely aligned with traditionally what the state likes to do.

Family values,

you know, lower taxes.

There's a red state profile that is only recently changed.

So it's not at all surprising that they would vote for Herschel Walker.

Here's another eco-terrorist that have targeted a girl with a pearl.

It's a famous painting in The Hague in a museum.

Roll this, please.

Don't worry, there's.

I think there's only about eight.

Hey.

Yeah, but there's some diagnosis here.

What are are you doing?

What is Teeth Mana doing?

Whoa.

How do you feel?

You're stupid.

How do you feel when you see something beautiful and prices being apparently destroyed before?

I feel you're stupid.

Should be arrested.

This is.

This has got to stop.

This is just.

These people.

There's been some really good think pieces on this.

People saying, like, how can we destroy art?

And

am I the only one who just says, you know, I just don't care about art that much?

I got to be honest with you.

I don't, I don't care when you're making these statements.

Like, they shouldn't do it, but like, honestly,

you know what?

I'd be much more.

If you burned down my local target, I'd be more upset.

If they weren't targeting.

I'm not getting the ones with glass on them.

No, it's not even real.

It's not even real.

How do you feel when it's supposedly being destroyed?

The same way I feel that the environment and the earth is supposedly being destroyed.

It's not.

Here's Biden.

He went up to Syracuse yesterday and

he wanted to make sure everybody knew the economy was roaring.

By the way, I know what you're thinking.

He was in Syracuse.

The answer is Dreamsicle.

His favorite ice cream.

That's what he was having.

Oh, good.

Okay, so here he is on food prices.

And by the way, the food prices, the main driver of food prices is not the price of beef and eggs, et cetera, while they're up.

It's packaged goods.

Packaged goods.

You're going to see people not buying Kellogg's raisin brand, which you're going to see them buy another raisin brand, which is going to be a dollar cheaper.

I mean, so what's happening is there is real movement.

If you eat too much brand, there is real movement.

There is, yeah.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

I mean, it does not.

But Fetterman had a comment on this.

I don't know if you heard the Fetterman

comment.

I did not hear it.

No.

Yeah, here he is.

Have you ever had a dream

that

you could do anything?

So, I mean, I think once Federman

weighs in on things, it becomes very, very clear.

It does become clear.

That's a very strange.

So his point is, I want to make sure I understand fully.

Yeah.

Okay.

So beef, eggs, they're up, but they're not up as much as packaged goods.

And the solution to that is to buy packaged goods from other brands that are a dollar cheaper.

Yes.

Yes.

The packaged goods, because those are up, but not the name brand.

So, you know, buy something else that's not made by, you know, one of these corporations.

Fetterman's point made more sense.

It did.

It did.

It did.

The podcast this weekend.

There are two of them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's, I mean, I am working my fingers to the bone.

And then I come home and do you care?

No, you don't care.

You didn't watch.

No, don't.

You didn't watch the podcast.

Anyway, I did two podcasts.

One with Carrie Lake is a must-watch that came out.

Why are you looking at me like that?

I'm not.

I'm just listening to you talk about your interviews.

I'm excited to hear them because actually both of them are really interesting figures.

And the other one is

Vodi Bockham.

He is a guy that I discovered, you know, not that I discovered.

It's not like he was in Caved someplace.

Covered Vodi Bockham here.

He's a fascinating, fascinating guy

who is a preacher, kind of run out on the rails here in America because

he was speaking the truth about social justice and everything else.

He got an offer to run a university in Africa.

So he's over there in Africa.

He is truly

a deep thinking guy.

In fact, he was nominated to be president of the Southern Baptist Convention.

He talks about that a little bit and how interesting that was

because there's a battle in all of our faiths, all of our faiths, and they're going woke or they're going to stand, which is it?

He will help you

navigate those waters.

Here he is from the podcast talking a little bit about dealing with a hostile government.

Listen.

And they become abusive, really abusive to things that I hold sacred.

Not that I like,

but sacred.

How do you square that circle with

obeying your governments?

Yeah.

Here's what's interesting.

We're not necessarily called to obey our government in everything.

Nobody can command what God forbids, and nobody can forbid what God commands.

Okay.

COVID regulations, notwithstanding,

that was inappropriate.

The government does not have the right to tell the church that she can't meet, for example.

And I think we have, for example,

in Acts chapter 4,

we have an example of this when, you know, Peter and

John are told not to, you know, preach or teach anymore in the name of Jesus.

And their response is, right, whether it is right to obey you rather than God, you be the judge, but we cannot stop speaking about what we heard.

When the Apostle Paul is in in jail in philippi

he's been jailed there and eventually they find out that he's a roman citizen and you know

okay you go no i'm not going you bring the magistrate here right he jailed me illegitimately right

um

so

as christians um our position is not that the state just, you know, has the right to do whatever the state wants to do.

As Christians, on the one hand, no one has the right to command what God forbids or forbid what God commands, right?

And out of deference to the state, we're willing to accept whatever punishment we have to accept when we say no, right?

But on the other hand, as citizens, we have rights.

And here's the other thing, as Americans, we're in a very unique position.

And again, all of Christ for all of life, right?

Most Americans look at like Romans 13, you know, I think that you're alluding to,

and they say, well, you know, according to Romans 13, you know, we have to submit to them.

Guess what?

As an American, do you know what my governing authority is?

It's not an individual.

It's God.

God is ultimately my governing authority, but as an American citizen, my governing authority is the Constitution.

Yes.

Correct.

That's my governing authority.

And everybody is held

to that governing authority.

So one of the problems that we have is

we don't know what it says.

So when this person says something that's completely out of line with that, well, we go, oh, I guess I'm supposed to do it.

No,

what you might ought to do is confront that based on the fact that they are not obeying what we're all, you know, agreed to obey, which is our Constitution.

We have more on this.

This is a fascinating conversation with Vodie Bacham, and you can get it now at The Blaze, or you can listen to it on my podcast.

I think it's episode 191.

Vodi Bachman, it'll be out everywhere tomorrow.

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Nancy Pelosi's husband, I just tweeted out prayers for Nancy Pelosi and her husband.

It's horrifying.

No matter who did this, meth head, left, right, crazy, not, don't, I don't care.

They need to be found and they need to be jailed.

There is no room in our society for this kind of behavior.

None.

None.

And I don't care if it's an unknown old man in a subway or Nancy Pelosi's husband.

Enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

All right, we'll be back.

Pray on this one because

the press press is going to use this one way or another.

And God forbid it turns out to be somebody who doesn't like Nancy Pelosi's policies.

This is

really

not good.

Pray for the nation.

This is a threat to our democracy.

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