The Spark of World War III? ‘Putin’s Brain’ Dodges Car Explosion | Guests: John Solomon & Rebekah Koffler | 8/22/22

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Glenn and Stu discuss Alexander Dugin and his fourth political theory regarding chaos, as Dugin’s daughter died in a car bomb explosion. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to mock a New York Times article suggesting it’s time to get rid of the Constitution. Author of “Fallout” John Solomon joins to discuss the possible connection between the FBI raid at Mar-A-Lago and the old Russia collusion probe. A San Francisco father was investigated after a Google automated algorithm flagged photos of his child as child pornography. U.S. intelligence expert Rebekah Koffler joins to unpack what the attempted assassination of Alexander Dugin means for Russia. Glenn urges his listeners to pray for President Biden and his administration as tensions heat up overseas.
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Right.

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No, no, no.

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Yeah, that's okay.

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It is Monday.

There's several things that are going on today.

Donald Trump is looking like something is coming.

He's going to be filing something

in the courts.

A major announcement coming from his camp, he says, within hours.

Also,

we have the Dugin situation.

I don't know if you saw this, but Alexander Dugin, a guy I've been warning about for a very, very long time.

I believe this guy is an anti-Christ-style figure.

He is Putin's mind and heart when it comes to Ukraine.

He's the guy who started all of this, pushed for all of this.

His daughter was killed in a car explosion.

A car explosion that was meant for him.

At the last minute, he said, honey, I'll take your car, you take my car, and she was blown up.

People are blaming this on Ukraine.

I highly doubt it.

It is most likely an internal affair,

an anti-Putin, anti-nationalist movement.

But we will see and we'll talk to some experts on that.

Also, as we go through that, I want to tell you about the weakness of President Zi.

There is something going on in China that you should be aware of.

And I want to start with the New York Times and their amazing op-ed that it's time to get rid of the Constitution and just have the administrative state make all the laws and enforce everything.

It's time to get rid of the judicial system as we know it.

This is an incredible statement from the New York Times.

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I want to to start with a positive today.

I want to start with something that I think you need to understand.

When you look at the world, you know, Stu and I were just talking about Alexander Dugan.

And I don't think people have gotten the message yet on Alexander Dugan, but we've been talking about him.

I've been talking about him for what?

Four years, five years?

Yeah.

At least.

And what he's been trying to do, not only in Russia, but all over the world.

Right.

He's a guy who's seen as someone who's on the right, a figure of the right.

I've heard everyone calling him a figure of the right, but I don't think that's appropriate.

Certainly not in the American understanding of the right.

No.

He is a capital T traditionalist.

So I'm a small T traditionalist.

I believe in traditional values.

I believe in.

But he is a capital T traditionalist, which is an actual movement that is,

his movement is the,

what is it, the fourth political theory and it is based on

strangely strong man and chaos uh he believes that chaos is the way to be able to have russia rule the world and he is currently working and pouring money all over the world including here in america if you ever hear him on the air with a host you should question what you believe about that host

this man is I believe, one of the most dangerous men, if not the most dangerous men, in the world.

He believes he has to bring on Armageddon to be able to have Russia become the global leader.

So he is extraordinarily dangerous.

He is also looking for the collapse and the destruction.

of America as we know it.

So he is not a figure on the right.

He, he, he's a, he's a, he's a fascist.

He believes the only thing that Hitler did wrong was he didn't go far enough.

These are from his writings, by the way.

You're not just, you're not like.

No, it's not projecting onto him.

No, he's terrifying.

So anyway, they killed his daughter yesterday, and they're blaming it on Ukraine, which is very, very convenient, seeing that he's the guy who designed the Ukrainian policy.

policy, I just don't think Ukrainians are this stupid.

I mean, I think they're corrupt.

The government is.

I think that

they are playing a very dangerous game.

I think they're most likely screwing us, but we're helping them do that.

But they are not stupid enough to go into the heart of Russia and kill Alexander

Dugin or his daughter, as it happened in this case.

Yeah, because they supposedly swapped cars at the last moment.

Correct.

Which is

another bizarre twist in the story.

I think what's interesting, too, is that, you know, there's a lot of people in this audience that heard you talk about Dugan and understand the warnings that you were giving about him.

But what was kind of interesting about how all this played out is that when the Ukraine-Russia conflict sort of hit that peak and Russia went in, there was, I think, a generally speaking, an understandable response by many on the right who, you know, look, Biden and the government were involved immediately.

We've seen this stuff play out so many times.

It's understandable to see it with a lot of suspicion.

We've looked at Ukraine and we've seen a lot of corruption.

You should look at it.

You should look at it.

You know, Zelensky being kind of propped up as this ultimate hero that was going to save the universe and all of this, I think, elicits an immediate and understandable piece of skepticism, particularly from a conservative audience that's seen this play out so many times.

And all of that may be very well true, right?

Like where you have this situation where there is real corruption in Ukraine and there is all sorts of problems with the media narratives about it.

And the fact that we're sending $60 billion over there and the people who are involved in sending that money,

are we going to waste a lot of it?

Yes.

Are there other things playing out?

Yes.

100%.

All of that can be true.

At the same time that what you talked about with Alexander Dugan is true.

Yeah, Yeah, I think where we as a country have gone wrong here is we have assigned the labels good,

bad,

and it's really not.

It's more like

instead of black and white, it's more like black and charcoal gray.

You know what I mean?

Yeah,

yeah, it's there is a difference there, but

not an awful lot.

And there's been a lot of kind of immediate skepticism of

this whole situation.

And

some on the right have taken immediately the side of Russia, which I, you know, I don't hear that a lot from our audience, but I do see it a lot on social media and some writers doing that.

And what's interesting about that is that this is exactly what you were talking about when you were talking about Alexander Dugan initially.

His philosophy had a lot to do with Russia and had a lot to do with Russia's position in the world, but it also had a direct path of attack on the American right to try to plant ideas on the American right to tie into what we do have in common with big T traditionalism, traditional values,

but encapsulating his entire worldview on the back of traditional values, which is not something the American people believe in.

Because people will only hear, I'm for religion,

I'm for

traditional values.

I'm backing the family.

Uh-huh.

And what else?

What was that about Hitler?

You know, you forget about those things and you don't look at those things, especially when there is an emergency or you're looking for team members.

He is a very dangerous

team member.

But I don't fear it because of this audience.

And let me explain this.

I have said,

Really, right after September 11th, I said this, I was overwhelmed with a feeling, and I have had this feeling time and time again.

And I really wondered what it meant, but I said it because I knew it to be true.

And what I said was, this audience will turn a corner.

It'll be a pivot point.

This audience will be responsible in the end for saving America or saving at least remnants of it.

But you are going to play a big role in a positive way.

And I've often wondered what that meant.

Well, it dawned on me Friday when something happened.

And then I started thinking about it and I started piecing it together.

I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There was a story that was out from the New York Times, the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

If you want to understand it,

You need to understand the 2010 election.

And what does that mean?

The 2010 election was the Tea Party movement.

The Tea Party movement, when we started going to Washington in droves and demanding change inside the Republican Party.

That's what set up the

political landscape that gave us the members of the court that we have now.

So you have to understand the 2010 election.

And then I thought, well, the 2010 election, I remember, oh my gosh, I remember the 2010 election.

Wasn't that the year of the Tea Party movement that started and had the first big march?

You remember it?

Where the streets of Washington, D.C.

were packed with people, just packed with people.

The right had never done anything like this before.

And I can say this, I had nothing to do with that, but you did.

You did.

And what was the date of that march?

September 12th.

September 12th, otherwise known to this audience as 9-12.

That march happened on that day because six months before that, I had gotten on television and I had said, gather around and gather all your friends because there's something we have to talk about.

And I launched the 9-12 project and I said,

I'll tell you in six months what I'm going to do.

You show me in six months what you're going to do.

And that six-month mark was 9-12.

And you showed America what you were going to do.

If you read Barack Obama's latest book, he talks about how the Tea Party movement was the obstacle that he could not overcome.

He said it was he was thwarted every step of the way because of the Tea Party movement.

Do you remember we were facing the goals,

the

Agenda 21 goals?

We exposed it.

I wrote a couple of books about it, and it became a giant conspiracy theory.

And then it was like, oh, no, wait, it's on the websites for the United Nations.

Then it disappeared, and it came back as the sustainability goals of 2030.

This audience, because you paid attention to Agenda 21 and spoke out,

this audience bought us an additional nine years.

Imagine how demoralizing things would have been when we pulled out of Afghanistan had you not been there to save

20,000 people and bring them across the border.

How demoralizing if no one would have banded together, worked together, and got those people out without the government.

Now, here's what happened

on Friday that made me realize you already have changed the course.

There was a story in many of the financial papers

that reported that pushback is getting so intense on ESG

that, quote, proponents are pushing for a name change, end quote.

That made me think of Common Core.

Wait a minute, Common Core, whatever happened to Common Core?

Oh yeah,

we started talking about it, and this audience spread the word and stopped Common Core.

I have such great faith.

in not only God, but you.

What I have said for a very long time, this audience is going to play a really big role.

And not understanding it while I said it, I understood it Friday right at the end of this broadcast.

I have been waiting all week, all weekend, to tell you this.

You've already changed the course.

You've already bought us enormous amounts of time.

Keep it up.

You're changing the course of America.

Keep it up.

Well, the time has come for kids to go back to school.

The parents are just rejoicing.

Actually, we are.

Time to get back to all that reading, writing, and indoctrination for the kids.

Whoops, wait a minute.

Wait, they're going back to school.

Did you know, do you know what the homeschooling rate is this year?

What is the percentage?

of students that are going to be homeschooled this year.

It's traditionally been about 3%.

What What is it this year, Stu?

It's going to be higher.

I don't know how much higher.

20%.

No.

20%.

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Ain't that good news?

That's incredibly good news.

It seems

impossible.

Yeah.

It seems impossible.

I wonder if it just an increase of 20%?

Is it a no, I got it from David Barton.

We were out in Gettysburg this weekend,

and he said that I haven't had a chance to check on it, but he said, because

he's in the homeschooling community.

He's a big figure in it.

Oh, yeah.

Huge.

Yeah.

And he said, do you know what the percentage is this year going in?

And,

you know,

I was thinking.

6%, 10%,

20%.

It is.

I just listening to a report that was talking about it being significantly higher, although they didn't give a specific amount.

Maybe that's it.

They're calling an educational awakening.

Yeah.

Isn't it interesting that people are talking about awakenings, the great awakening, educational awakening, and it is so different from being woke.

Being awake is much different than being woke.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, but isn't that, I mean, it's incredible because

they were trying to make us feel like, you know, you're just not awake.

Right.

You're not awake.

You're not seeing the structural racism.

Correct.

Right.

You're not seeing how boys are actually girls and girls are actually.

Or

awakened.

Turned into woke.

It was just a woke.

Turned into woke.

It's always been such a clunky phrase, but now it's just a thing.

And now that's where we are.

Then we need to be awake,

not woke.

I think it's such an inspiring thing that parents have taken this on.

Because look, life is hard.

My kid had assignments due this week and

doing them over the weekend.

You have a few minutes here and there to actually do something on your own and to jump into your kid's schoolwork and to, you know, it's hard.

But like.

Did your mom help you with your schoolwork?

I mean, I'm sure at certain points she did.

At certain points, but it's like every day.

And I feel like I just like,

you know, Rafe and Cheyenne will be like, oh, I got to do homework.

And then they bring it down.

They're like, you know, can you help me out?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, kids, I already went through this.

I don't know why I have to go through high school a second time now.

Yeah.

No, it's true.

There is a bit of that, depending on, of course, the age of your kid, too.

Okay.

But the point, though, is that I think parents are just getting so much more involved in this.

And, you know, again, you don't want a pandemic.

No one wants a pandemic.

No one wants millions of people to die.

However, I will say

on the other side of that, where you try to pull positives out of a very negative time.

This is one of them, I think.

I think parents

were forced to look at what their kids were learning.

They were forced to really contemplate what was going on at schools.

It wasn't just a drop-off thing and come home and hope they're okay.

It was everybody seeing every little bit of it.

And that changed, I think, the country.

I think it changed the direction of the country.

Yeah, and I think it also showed us how important local and state government is.

You know,

I really think while you wouldn't want it, the idea of life is not what happens to you, but how you adapt to it and how you, what you learn from it.

I think COVID was a huge blessing for our families and for our children in some ways.

In other ways,

you know, suicide rates went up and all kinds of problems with it.

But if we learn from it now,

it can be a very big, big blessing.

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Mr.

Pat Cray.

Hello, sir.

How are you?

Oh,

words.

You know, words.

More than words, really.

More.

So, Pat,

do you remember both of you guys wrote the episode where I said, oh, they want to tell you who they are.

You remember that?

They're going to take their masks off and they're going to tell you who they are.

Well, another mask has come off today.

New York Times op-ed.

The Constitution is broken and should not be reclaimed.

When liberals lose in the Supreme Court, as they increasively have over the past half century, they usually say the justices got the Constitution wrong.

But struggling over the Constitution has proved a dead end.

The real need is not to reclaim the Constitution, but instead reclaim America from the Constitution.

Finally, somebody says that.

Somebody says what we're all

thinking.

What they're all thinking.

Just the old thing.

It is.

It's fresh air to witness progressives offering bold new proposals to reform the courts and shift power to elected officials.

It's very bold.

It's almost called

a revolution.

Yeah.

But even such proposals raise the questions, why justify our politics by the Constitution or by calls for some renovated constitutional tradition?

It has exacted a terrible price in distortion and distraction to transform our national life into a contest over reinterpreting the founding charter consistently with what majorities believe now.

So they are saying we've got to throw the Constitution out.

After failing to get the Constitution interpreted in an egalitarian way for so long, the way to seek real reform will be to use procedures consistent with popular rule.

We're a democracy, remember.

In a second stage, Americans could learn simply to do politics through the ordinary statute rather than staging constant wars over who controls the heavy weaponry of constitutional law from the past.

If the legislators had just passed rules and protected values majorities believe in, the distinction between higher law and everyday politics effectively disappears.

One way to do this is to get a more democratic world by packing the Union with new states.

I mean, have they not just taken every mask off?

Yes.

Congress could also simply pass a congressional act reorganizing our legislature in ways that are more fairly representative of where the people actually live and vote, perhaps even reducing the Senate to a mere council of revision without the power to obstruct our laws.

In doing so, Congress would be pretty openly

defying the Constitution, you think,

to get a more democratic order.

And for that reason, we would need to insulate the law from judicial review.

So there would be no judicial review.

Fundamental values like racial equity, environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics, but as they typically are, but by ordinary expressions of popular will.

And this basic structure of government, like whether to elect a president by majority vote or limit judges to fixed terms, would be decided by the present voters, as opposed to one from some foggy past.

Politics of American future like this would make clear our ability to engage and constant reinvention of our society under our own power without the illusion that the past stands in the way.

Wow.

Is that fantastic?

Yeah, it really is.

That is everything that we've accused them of doing.

And there it is, admitted in an op-ed on the New York Times.

This is why they continually call us a democracy because they're trying to push this garbage.

Correct.

And every time we've said that, they've said, oh, that's ridiculous.

We love the Constitution just as much as the next guy.

No, you don't.

And they never have.

Never have.

Never have.

If this doesn't show you why you need to be out in November,

we cannot

handle another two years under these people.

Can't.

We've got to go out and vote.

Every single, I don't care.

I don't care who you're voting for.

If I were living in Kentucky and he was my only choice,

I would be voting for Mitch McConnell.

I would

hate myself for it,

but I could not give it to a Democrat.

Yeah, the majority in the Senate is so important, and it looks like it might be slipping out of their hands, too.

I mean, they may have screwed up a tremendous situation again.

I say we said, How many times do we say it?

They've got a red wave here unless the Republicans screw it up.

And they always do.

They almost always do.

So, I was talking to a constitutionalist, a scholar,

over the weekend, and

we were talking about gutting the, you know, taking the power of the purse back, but they can't do that without the Senate.

They have to have the Senate as well.

And that is not good.

Well, and justices are important, too.

Until the New York Times dream comes true, where we don't have to care about what happens in the Supreme Court.

All these appointments go through the Senate.

And, you know, just getting to 51 can at least give you a chance to block the worst of them.

Yeah.

That's at least something.

Yeah.

And of course, the House

will block a lot of the laws, and you can at least do some stuff there as well.

But these justices can get through without the House.

So the Senate is vitally important, and that's why you can't throw away winnable races.

And look how many Trump-appointed federal judges have saved the day on numerous issues.

So many times you'll see Trump-appointed federal judge has blocked the Biden administration again.

Over and over and over, they've done that.

Today, a Trump-appointed judge permanently blocks Biden oil and gas leasing pause in 13 states.

This is a Western district of Louisiana.

Now we just have to get them the money to be able to explore because you have BlackRock and

others blocking the way.

And if we can get that out of the way and get back to the free market, and Vivek, I talked to Vivek this weekend.

Vivek Rameshwami, he said,

remember, he told me four weeks ago, he said, Glenn, if we could get to $1 billion

as an index

by Christmas, that will shock the world,

the financial world.

And he said, so my real goal, and the faster we do it, the better.

And he said,

he's talking to us because he doesn't want just a bunch of rich people.

He wants wants the average person to go out and say, I want part of my portfolio to be DRL,

which is you take some of your money and you invest in American energy companies.

So then the energy companies, which have told him off the record, please give us backup.

If you give us backup,

we will drill.

But we have no way to do it right now.

We are totally alone.

And I talked to him on Friday or Saturday.

I texted him.

I said, we did $100 million the first week.

How many more investors did you get on the second week?

What are we up to on our road to a billion dollars?

And he said, we're now at 250 million.

Wow.

So they did 100 million the first week, 150 the second week.

Nice.

That's great.

That's great.

And because of that, the ESG people are freaking out.

Freaking out.

And anyone can invest in this.

Obviously, this is not investment advice.

You got to make your own decisions on this stuff.

But it's D-R-L-L.

It's listed on every, you know, every investing website that you might use if you invest in stocks and such.

It's just a fun.

It's an ETF about energy.

Yep.

And it's non-woke.

And it's American energy.

It's American energy.

By the way, have you seen the latest that

the Swiss, you know, the Coco people

that

they don't, I mean, if you had a miss and you were snowed in and she was making you hot chocolate, would you riot?

No.

No.

No, I wouldn't.

And if your power went out, how would you keep warm with the Swiss miss?

I could maybe think of a way.

Okay.

All right.

It would involve chocolate.

Yes.

No matter what the scenario is, it involves chocolate.

Anyway,

the Swiss now are saying,

begging the government, I'm trying to think what it was, the head of the police force, I think, the national police force, is begging the government not to become draconian,

but consider every other option because they think the Swiss

could Switzerland could go into chaos this summer because of the power outages.

And it will be so cold that there will be riots on the streets of Switzerland.

That's not good.

So that's in the winter?

That's in the winter.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

You know, there's so much civil unrest all over the world that we don't even talk about.

And then you hear about Switzerland maybe falling into chaos.

Switzerland.

Switzerland.

Yeah.

Send us your misses.

We'll be fine.

You know, it's what's crazy is the other thing that Pat just said, so true.

There are so many uprising all around the world.

It's intentionally not covered.

It's intentionally not covered here.

Yeah, because a lot of it is against their stinking agenda.

Yes.

A lot of it is farmers' stinking agenda.

We cannot comply to your climate change garbage.

We can't do it.

The Swiss are saying the same thing

this winter when it gets cold.

Drill.

Find the countries that will drill and drill enough of this ESG stuff.

And that's why the media is not covering it.

You know, there was another story today out about,

here it is, the

let's see, an Atlanta man arrested for spray painting swastika on LGBTQ Rainbow Crosswalk.

There was another one, a New York City man accused of threatening Fox News anchors, avoids prosecution twice.

Twice.

Okay.

So they're not upholding anything.

However,

the other part of this is

they are not reporting on the attacks on the churches.

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How are you, sir?

Great to be with you, Glenn.

It's good to be with you.

We are living in insane times i remember we we you know we we've talked for years now

did you did you ever really believe that it would ever get like this

i didn't know i mean we've had this great american experience for 246 years and i think back to that speech you gave at cpac in february and i think all the things you said somewhere along the way we jumped out of the roots of this great country and we're in a place now that doesn't resemble uh the america that we all grew up in it's a very troubly time.

So I think a lot of people in the last couple of weeks have learned a lot about what to do and what to expect when you're served a warrant at your house.

It's actually a good way.

It's God's way of teaching us the Constitution, I think.

What happened with Donald Trump is, again, I believe, a horror show.

There's no way he's selling secrets, you know, nuclear secrets to Finland.

This is ridiculous.

It does now seem to appear to be

a shot across the bow because he was trying to release documents that showed who was involved in the Russia hoax.

Is that true?

Well, listen, there is this long six-year battle between the FBI and Donald Trump.

And of course, it starts with Russia collusion, which we now know was a completely contrived and political investigation that had no predicate, no merit whatsoever.

As the presidency is coming to an end, as Donald Trump's leaving office on January 19, 2021, he declassifies the documents the FBI never wanted out in public.

They didn't want these documents out.

These are the way they handled their informants, what they knew before they signed the CFISA warrants, what they were telling the court versus what they knew internally.

That just inflamed the FBI

all the more.

And for the last year, as I've reported, the FBI secretly grabbed those documents.

The president declassified them.

He ordered them to be released.

In the last hour of the Trump presidency, I'm told at 11 o'clock on January 20th, 2021.

The FBI and the Justice Department grabbed those documents.

They made up an excuse: hey, we left a couple Privacy Act pieces of information in there from the declassified documents.

Let's grab them.

We'll fix that and we'll release them.

They grabbed them

for 19 months.

They've kept them from the American public despite a lawful order of a sitting president.

So he had the documents, but they hadn't been redacted?

They were redacted.

They were completely ready.

They had been declassified, all the declassified markings.

At the last minute, the Justice Department raised an issue that maybe there was a piece of information there still covered by the Privacy Act.

Let's go look at it real quickly.

It looks like it was really just an excuse to grab the documents.

Right.

So now, did he have those at Mar-a-Lago?

Do we know?

Is that what they were going after?

Not that we know of.

No one has told me.

I haven't found anyone who told me he had the documents here.

And of course, I've asked the president, do you have the documents?

He's told me no.

That's why he gave me permission as a journalist to go to the non-public section of the National Archives and try to find these documents.

That's what led us to the discovery just three weeks ago that these documents had been grabbed by the Justice Department and a secret hand grabbed them and put them into the Justice Department.

So you haven't been able to find them?

No, well, we know where they are now.

There's two sets.

There's a classified set at the National Archives.

I can't see those because I don't have a security clearance.

Nor does anyone else in

Right.

Exactly.

I could have done the sock thing, but that's probably not advisable.

And then the second part is there is a set at the Justice Department, and I'm taking multiple actions to try to force the Justice Department.

And I hope to have some really good news later this week.

I've been negotiating with the archives.

They've been working with the Justice Department.

I have a sense, an inkling that we might get these documents in the near future.

All right.

So, what was it that the FBI, do you think, was looking for?

It's a great question, right?

The first possibility is maybe what they said is all that it is, right?

This is a dispute between the archives and former President Donald Trump, and they actually went to this unprecedented means to go get documents back by raiding his home.

I haven't found any other.

great explanation for people.

And I think that when history looks back, if that's all this was, if this was a dispute over documents, there is a civil process that could have been followed.

And that means they will have criminalized a dispute over paper.

And with some serious issues involved, and I think there's another part of this, Glenn, that we haven't been able to dig into, and I'm really working on it hard now.

It is impossible for this sort of a dispute to go on and it become criminalized without the Biden White House knowing.

There's just no way the way the system of government works.

So what was the Biden White House's role?

in these conversations.

I think that's the next big shoe to drop.

I don't know what it is yet, but I'm determined to find out what it is because the way government works, you've got these issues of privilege, you've got these issues of a dispute between the current administration and the past administration.

The Biden White House had to be in the loop.

And I don't think their story yet

adds up.

I have to tell you,

just on common sense and the way the world has traditionally worked in America, there's no way a decision that large

that would come back to the White House eventually and affect the presidency, not just Biden and Trump, but the entire presidency.

There's no way the Justice Department doesn't call and at least give a heads up.

Am I wrong?

I'm 100% with you.

And there's, I think, another issue here.

Remember that

the grand jury subpoena, which I broke the story a couple weeks ago, was executed on June 3rd in a collaborative way, by the way.

Both sides were still working together then.

That didn't address the issue of executive privilege.

What does that mean?

It means somewhere earlier in the process, somebody had to waive executive privilege in order for a grand jury

subpoena to be issued for presidential documents.

Donald Trump isn't going to be waiving it.

I think we're going to find out that the Biden administration waived executive privilege for Trump and that they were deeply involved in this.

That just is the only plausible explanation for why there wouldn't have been a privilege claim back in June when the grand jury first showed, you know, for the subpoena was first executed.

So, John, I'm doing a special on Wednesday on the history of the FBI

and how corrupt it has been through.

I mean, it really was corrupt from the very beginning.

You know, we had Hoover doing all kinds of stuff that was really, really dark and bad.

Are we at or beyond the Hoover days?

Well, listen, one of the big stories I did when I was at the Washington Post and I worked with 60 Minutes, for 40 years, for 40 years, the FBI would go into, let's take it out of politics for a second.

They would go into a case and say, that guy on trial for murder, I can assure you that the bullets we found in his bedroom drawer matches the bullets that were shot out of that gun.

And for 40 years, they testified that hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of murder defendants were convicted based on the FBI scientists.

The story I broke in 2007 showed the FBI knew all along that that science was junk science.

It wasn't true, that they couldn't make such a representation, and yet they continued to do it well past the, well, they did during the Hoover years, well past the, all the way into the Mueller years.

So the history of the FBI, whether it's the church hearings, which really went into the Hoover era, or what we've learned, 9-11, the

mistakes in the Oklahoma City bombing, the problems with the FBI lab.

This is an agency that has a very big reputation, reputation, but it also has a very big history of abuses time and time and time again.

Any way to rein that in?

It's a great question.

You know, some of the policymakers I've been talking to in Congress, for the first time, I've heard Republicans tell me privately, you know what, it's time to break up the FBI.

Maybe

make them like Scotland Yard and put the domestic intelligence into a different agency.

There is clearly a moment of reckoning for the FBI on the immediate horizon.

The real real question is, if you just take the counterintelligence division out, you put it somewhere else, the mentality still exists that there's not a regard for the Constitution.

And that's the part, whether it's inside the FBI or outside of it, the lack of regard for the Fourth Amendment, for our liberties in the face of a big government, that's the part that hasn't been crushed out.

I'm not sure just dividing the FBI solves it.

Well, especially the intelligence arm.

The intelligence agencies are completely out of control.

The The things I've read about the intelligence agencies, and I've heard from people on Capitol Hill, is they really don't answer to anybody right now.

Yep, they have their own mindset, their own mentality, they feel.

And because so much of what they do can stay secret no matter what, as we're seeing in this search warrant today,

we never get a visibility to know if what they're telling us, the excuse they're giving us, is real.

And it's only years later, usually through lawsuits and FOIAs, that we find out, well, the official story of the intelligence community didn't match what we were told at the time.

It's that secrecy that I think creates so much concern.

There was an opportunity in the middle of Russia collusion while Republicans were still in control of both to do something, to create a permanent advocate so that all intelligence cases that occurred in secret, there would be someone advocating on behalf of the American whose liberties were about to be violated.

They whiffed on that.

Paul Ryan whiffed on that.

Mitch McConnell whiffed on that.

But I think there are a lot of people today that would go back and say, you know, if I had a do-over, I'd probably create that public advocate who goes into the court and argues on behalf of you and me and everybody else.

So,

John, what do you think Donald Trump is talking about when he says that, you know, he said over the weekend, it might be within hours, it might be Monday

that I'm going to be filing something and big news coming.

What do you think that might be?

My reporting indicates that the president is considering filing a motion to remove a magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, Reinhart, who, by the way, just a few minutes ago ruled that the entire affidavit cannot be kept sealed.

He believes he used the word unprecedented.

I'm glad he recognizes what he approved is unprecedented.

But he is rejecting the Justice Department's request to keep the affidavit secret.

But I believe.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

He rejected the

Department of Justice?

This just broke just a few minutes ago.

It's up on Justin News right now.

Judge Reinhart this morning said the Justice Department's request to keep the entire affidavit for the search warrant uh under seal is rejected that this is an unprecedented case it requires transparency so people can understand why the fbi was authorized to raid a former president's own so that just happened this morning that's a uh something that the president was cheering on and how long will it be before we see that well there are two options either they have to deliver the unredacted version of the um affidavit on thursday or a more likely scenario is the justice department will slow walk this go to a district judge then go to an appeals court, maybe even go to the Supreme Court.

Oh, my God.

I guess as they're going to go that route.

But meanwhile, the president, to answer your question, I think the president is going to ask that a special master be appointed, a court-appointed, independent person, take the documents from the FBI and go through them and say, these are privileged.

These aren't.

These are overly expansive.

They shouldn't have been collected like your passports

and not leave the FBI on an honor system given that all we know.

So I think that's what we're going to see the president do.

That would be great.

John, thank you so much.

Great to talk to you.

It's always an honor to be on your show.

Likewise, thank you.

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What did you think about John Stossel and what he said, or John Solomon and what he just said?

Pretty amazing.

You know, it does seem that the overreach is clear, and

the courts may back up some of the Trump side of this, which is

always a pleasant surprise, I suppose, when you go into this level of scrutiny.

But I do think that there's a chance that

this stuff really backfires on them.

I think you've always had the right be the one who is defending the FBI and a lot of these institutions and say, look, we understand, and we've said this a million times, we understand that there are some problems in some of these institutions.

They need to be rooted out.

It seems like the right after this is getting to the point where they're just giving up on that.

Like we can't.

Hang on just a second.

Would you call John Sullivan back just a second and say, sorry, Glenn has one more question I forgot to ask him.

I want to ask him about the whistleblowers because he's in a position to know.

Are we seeing more whistleblowers than usual?

Because that's the feeling I get.

reading some stories and hearing from Congress that FBI agents are coming forward and going, this has got to stop.

And that, to me, is very heartening.

Yeah, and you're also hearing this from people you wouldn't normally.

Was it Grassley that came out with a big list of,

was it 14 whistleblowers at least on this one story?

That's not the typical, this isn't like, I don't know, a hardcore Trump ally.

You know what I mean?

He's just a normal kind of institutional Republican.

He's been there for 500,000 years, and he's the type of guy you wouldn't necessarily think would be like making erratic claims about this type of thing.

No, he's kind of old school, reasonable, reasonable, just consistent.

Yeah.

Just consistent.

But he's been saying that,

and if they're not,

if you are in the FBI, I plead with you, plead with you

to have zero tolerance for anything unconstitutional and whistleblow.

Come to us, come to Project Veritas, come to anyone, anyone.

but please blow the whistle because you're all going to be painted with the same brush.

You know,

what happened with the police

in many cases, now this is not the case with

BLM, it just gave fuel to BLM.

is the the for a long time, the police officers would close their ranks and they would protect their own.

You can't.

If there's a bad guy, you've got to rat them out.

Otherwise, you're all going to be deemed bad.

And

I would like to be in a position where I trust the FBI.

I don't know if I'll ever be there again.

I don't know if I'll ever be there.

And that's probably a healthy thing.

I mean, there should be some general skepticism.

Yes.

You know, many of our

people more on the libertarian side of

the right have pointed this out many times, that conservatives tend to have a real skepticism of government except for law enforcement and sometimes the military.

And that's not always the best thing to do.

You should have the skepticism of government on all of these facets.

You just shouldn't wildly blame law enforcement for being wrong.

I want to be in a neutral position.

Right.

Judge things by

the facts.

Right.

That's all we were asking here.

And the problem is, if the intelligence and justice department have gone bad, who do you call?

Because Ghostbusters out of business.

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that didn't really happen no the last time

all the equipment was you know buried in someplace in the middle of the country probably better than what actually happened yeah you know

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we uh we need the trust in our institutions and our FBI.

Please, if you're in the FBI, set the record straight and get rid of all of the bad things in your life and

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The CDC, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has released a study over the weekend suggesting that people should wear a mask to protect themselves from monkeypox.

Now,

there's no evidence that this is an airborne virus.

No.

So, why would we wear a mask to avoid monkeypox?

Well,

they have said it's an airborne virus.

We've seen how little does work, but why would we do it at all?

Because we've had, we know now that monkeypox,

the CDC came out last week and said monkeypox is something that is being spread mainly through men having more than 10 partners, and it is a sexual disease.

It is being spread sexually.

It's not a sexual disease, but it is being spread sexually.

Right.

Okay.

It's a sort of long-term intimate contact needed to spread this.

So they didn't say that everyone should wear a mask.

Uh-oh.

I'm wondering if that's like

a face condom or what exactly.

How do you?

I mean, unless they're just lying to us and one of those two things is wrong, either the mask or how it spread, if you're trying to logically figure it out,

you gotta do some pretty complicated common core math and show me your work on how you got there.

I did have a

question about monkeypox.

Yeah, I don't think I should answer it.

No, probably not.

But like they keep saying,

we were talking about this phrase, men who have sex with men, which is the phrase now used.

It's not

gay people or bisexual people.

It's men who have sex with men.

They keep saying that phrase over and over again for some reason.

Well, because gay sex, I think, could be sex between two women.

Well, that's usually there's an L in the LGBT, right?

They keep saying like, this is happening in the LGBTQ.

I don't know what words mean anymore.

I don't know what words mean anymore.

This is my question.

So what about men who have sex with trans women?

Could they be affected with that?

That's completely different.

Is it though?

That's completely different.

Because here's the thing.

It is to be.

They're biological men

that have transitioned to be women.

I think this is what I would be thinking about.

Do you think monkeypox will

label somebody who's now claiming to be a woman?

Monkeypox will essentially approach the trans woman and say, I was thinking about infecting this particular man.

Yeah.

And then I realized, actually, this person's identifying as a woman, therefore it's totally safe to have sex with this person.

Right.

Okay.

Monkeys are not animals, man.

Well, but it's not.

Okay, wait.

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We have a really important story to share with you.

It broke over the weekend, and it involves Google and a dad.

Yes.

So a dad in San Francisco.

This is February 2021.

If you know anything about San Francisco, this was like mid-lockdown.

They were still in full-fledged lockdown.

So the dad, stay-at-home dad, has his son, and I guess son's having some issues in a sensitive area, if you would.

And a rash of some sort, some redness, some swelling breaking out.

And now, of course,

it was not monkeypox.

is the pre-monkeypox era

so this child is really having some discomfort you're of course not allowed to go outside for any reason so they are doing a virtual doctor's visit okay while they're doing this virtual doctor's visit uh the doctor requests uh photos to understand what's going on so the

not going anywhere

Really dark with the doctor, is it?

No, no.

Okay, good.

I'm just asking for the listener.

Right.

Well, if you survived the monkeypox update, I think you already are here.

This one's a lot more tame.

Yeah, this is more tame.

So

he takes some photos to give to the doctor of his child's area.

Yes.

Sends the photos.

The doctor recognizes what the rash is or what the issue is, sends antibiotics, gets it knocked out immediately.

Everybody's happy.

Got it.

So I just want to recap this story.

It's during COVID lockdown.

Dad's locked in the house.

The doctor has these virtual visits.

The doctor, a good guy, asks the father, a good guy, to take a picture of the sensitive areas of the son who is a good guy, so the doctor can diagnose and give the right prescription.

Which he does, and it works, right?

Everybody's happy.

Apparently not.

Not according to the people over at Google

who have an algorithm running over all of his photos that are in the cloud.

Oh.

And this photo that was apparently uploaded automatically to the cloud

sets off some alerts that say this could be child porn.

Now, of course.

But it's not child porn.

Not child porn.

Now, was Google monitoring this guy because they suspected child porn?

No.

This is an automated algorithm that's scanning the photos of

every single person who uses Google Cloud.

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Now, you might say there's some utility to this, right?

If it was childborn, it would probably be really good that this was alerted and maybe

some child could have been protected from some horrible, horrible insurance.

So they should have reached out maybe to the doctor.

Right.

Well, but the doctor could be that he was on the receiving end, so to speak.

Right.

So,

but what needs to happen here?

The algorithm sets off these alarms, then it goes to a human, right?

And a human would have to determine at some level.

So this happens, apparently.

It's egregious enough for the people at Google to alert

the police and shut down his entire account, shutting down his access to his email, deleting all of his photos from the beginning of his child's life all the way through, deleting all of his documents.

Okay, now wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

If you were trying to catch somebody who was in child porn, the last thing you would want to do is tip them off that the authorities are onto them.

Right, right.

Right.

So, Google just they call the police, then they just delete everything.

At least from his access point.

Right.

So

he cannot access any of his stuff.

Now, of course, this means he can't access the photos to prove he's innocent

because now he no longer has access to the photos that he took that were his.

What happened to the doctor's office that received the photos?

Well, nothing at this point.

Okay.

So

this goes on.

He goes to Google.

He appeals it and says, look, my kid was sick.

The doctor asked for these photos.

I sent them.

They reject his appeal.

Then, months later, he gets a letter from the San Francisco Police Department.

San Francisco Police Department has alerted him that they have begun an investigation and have looked at all of these photos.

He gets in touch with them and explains to the San Francisco Police Department, hey, look, this is what was the situation.

The police department sees it.

sees all the evidence and agrees with him and says, okay, obviously no crime here.

He did not commit a crime.

He was, this is not childborn.

He was sending them to a doctor.

So now you have the dad, you have the doctor, you have the police department all saying the same thing.

And the boy.

And the boy.

This is not a crime.

There was no abuse here.

Seems all appearances, all the evidence that we have, a good dad trying to help his son through a difficult moment in his life.

The only standout here is Google.

So now the story escalates to the New York Times.

The Times comes in, documents all of this, has actually apparently looked at the photos now and has also determined this is not childborn, right?

So we're sure on this one, it seems.

Every point.

I think that people at the New York Times might be able to know what childborn looks like.

They may very well be able to do that.

Maybe

he wanted to.

So they've gone through all of this.

The dad wanted to sue Google because,

you know,

they shut him out.

They keep saying no.

Now, even with

the word of the police department, they still said no.

So he wanted to sue Google.

He realized it was too expensive.

He didn't have the money to do it.

So he is just basically now in this constant state of trying to get them to change their mind.

Even with all of this, the Times contacts Google and gets a comment on the record where they say, yeah, we're not reversing it.

After all of this, the police department is on the record saying, we have a copy of all of his data, but on a jump track.

And they are saying they want to work with the dad to get him access to his own information back.

But at this point, Google is still denying it.

Now, imagine when Google and the United States are in bed together more than they already are.

Imagine the ESG

aspect of this.

Dad's put on a list by Google.

Google shares information with the government.

The government shares information with the banks.

Dad doesn't just lose all of his pictures, all of his

contacts, and his Google phone.

Dad would lose all phones.

Dad would lose his banking.

Dad would lose absolutely everything because he would be too much of a risk.

And who do you go to?

Who do you go to?

The New York Times?

Who do you go to to say, hey, I need to get my name off of this list?

It doesn't.

Now let me add one additional thing to this.

I told you last week that the World Economic Forum has said that bullying and everything else online and disinformation, misinformation, malinformation is too big of a problem globally.

So they are now pushing for high-tech and governments to endorse a system that would look at your tweet or your whatever in question

and the algorithm would decide whether or not that is good or bad.

If it's bad, it then makes a tree of everything that you do.

So it goes back and it looks at who is influencing you.

And if those people, it deletes you, then it goes to all of the people, contacts, all of the people in your social media realm, and it looks for anyone else that is spreading that information and on each of those people there's made a tree

and they lose their access all the way down this according look it up at theworldeconomic forum.com or org could you look it up which one is it but look it up at the main page of the world economic forum uh it was there at least last week where they are talking about making a tree that would i mean seven degrees from kevin bacon if this happened to this guy i guarantee you it's only a matter of time before they get my name and your name

because it trees out.

And there's and the World Economic Forum says that it's not enough to get the problem that is manifest itself on social media.

They need to see where that idea originally came from because they now need to silence ideas

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If that's not terrifying,

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Yeah.

In fact, one of the things that came up in this investigation was that they said, well, we've also flagged a video from six months ago.

Yes.

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John, I'm sorry to call you back, but

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We were talking about the FBI and the warrant and what happened to Donald Trump.

I have been hearing from Congress that they're seeing tons of whistleblowers come forward.

And that gives me kind of hope.

You're in a position to know.

Are we seeing whistleblowers?

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is it more than just one or two?

Yes, it is.

That's a great question, and it's true.

We've been writing a lot about it at Justin News.

Fourteen separate Justice Department and FBI whistleblowers, including at least one in the very senior ranks, have come forward to either Congressman Jim Jordan in the House or Senator Chuck Grassley in the Senate.

And their allegations are, as we were discussing earlier in the show, that there is this politicalization, particularly in the Washington field office where the current raid is being, what was conducted by, of cases.

The two examples that Chuck Grassy has put out there that are very clear.

A analyst wrote a document trying to take legitimate evidence against Hunter Biden and claim it was disinformation that caused a part of the Hunter Biden investigation to temporarily close down during the election.

That's one example of a bad politicalization going on in the FBI, according to the whistleblowers.

The other is the same office, the Washington Field Office, opened an investigation of Donald Trump, not the one we're talking about now, but an earlier one, without having a proper predicate, meaning there wasn't evidence, much like the case in Russum, to open it up.

That's what these guys are talking about, these men and women who are coming forward, 14 of them.

You're right on the money, Glenn.

Okay, so this is, that's a good sign.

We're seeing more than usual.

It's not just,

it's not maybe just the political guys on the other side.

Yes, no, I think that's right.

This is a greater heartburn among career people.

Good.

Thank you for that.

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God bless.

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Hello, America.

If you've listened to this program over just even the last five years, you know the name Alexander Dugan.

Alexander Dugan, I believe, is a, is, if not the most dangerous man you don't know,

is at least one of the top two most dangerous men you've never heard about.

He is a guy that has a new philosophy.

Let's bring on Armageddon so Russia can rule the world and we can go back to a capital T traditionalism.

He is a guy who believes capitalism is failed and evil, but he also believes that

Nazism

failed because Hitler just didn't go far enough.

He is a frightening man.

His daughter was killed yesterday in a car bombing.

Make no mistake.

They were not targeting his daughter.

They were targeting him.

Who did it?

The media, of course, will immediately jump to Ukraine.

I don't think it is in their best interest.

I think this is probably an anti-nationalist movement in Russia.

But I don't know.

We're going to talk to an expert who knows about Dugin, has written about Dugan, and we've had on the program before talking about Putin's playbook.

That's the name of her book, Putin's Playbook.

What does all of this mean?

Rebecca Koffler joins us in 60 seconds.

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yesterday there was a car bomb.

Do you agree with me that it was clearly meant for Alexander Dugan and not his daughter?

Well, hey, Glenn, it's such a pleasure to be back on your show with you and your audience.

Yes, that is the conventional wisdom that it is the father, Alexander Dugin, and the mastermind of the ideology of Eurasianism that underpins Putin's entire doctrine and strategy, which includes the destruction of Ukraine.

It is him who was the target.

However, there's also an alternative hypothesis is that both of them were targeted because originally they were supposed to be driving in one car from the lecture and the

big event that Dugin was speaking at.

And it is at the last moment that the father, Alexander Dugin, switched cars.

So, and because his daughter was just as vocal in the anti-West,

narrative that underpins Russia's current anti-U.S.

policy.

She possibly was also the target.

Okay, because she's also in the media,

but he is the leader of this, I just think it's a cult, all around the world.

He is infecting

even America with some of his capital T traditionalism, and people just don't understand how dangerous this is.

Do you believe that

it would be in the best interest of Ukraine to try to pull this off?

Okay,

so it is hard to tell.

On the one hand, Ukrainians could perfectly be justified

to

target this person.

Correct.

Again, Dugin has advocated for the destruction of Ukraine.

Right.

He's actually calling, if I'm not mistaken, he's actually calling for

the

the elimination of Ukrainians, if you will.

I don't remember the word he used, but it was, it seemed like a death Holocaust kind of thing.

But he's calling for more than just occupying, and he is

also

the

idea planter or the seed behind

Crimea and now this incursion into Ukraine, correct?

100%.

So, yes, it is possible that there's motives

why Ukrainians would want to target.

Now, to pull something off like that is not a slam dunk.

So, a lot of the resources and planning must have gone into this operation.

But let me tell you

about Dugin a little more because he's not only anti-Ukraine, he is anti-America.

I have a whole chapter in my book dedicated to Alexander Dugin because he's considered to be Putin's brain.

His writings, he's a political philosopher, ultra-nationalist.

He was the thought leader behind Eurasianism, as I said,

which underpinned Putin's policy of the so-called Russian world.

Okay, and I would like to give you some quotes about Dugin, who called on Russia to counteract U.S.

policy at all levels and in all regions of the world.

And specifically, he said that Russia, and I quote, must weaken, demoralize, and deceive in order to win.

It is especially important to introduce geopolitical order into America's internal reality.

to encourage separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively actively support dissident movements and extremist racist groups and sects and to destabilize internal processes.

So, this is who we are talking about.

You know, the mastermind of a very dangerous ideology, and

now his daughter is gone, and the Russians are up in arms about it.

The Russian media erupted over the weekend, blaming the United States and blaming Ukraine for what they characterize as a terrorist attack.

It is

interesting to me that his plan on how to destabilize America,

while they say the right is in bed with Putin,

the plan that Dugan gave to Putin

would be everything that the left is involved in.

And I don't mean necessarily Democrats, I mean the left of, you know,

racial division, et cetera, et cetera.

So the media in Russia comes out with this.

I don't know if we have any credibility to be able to say we didn't do this.

I hope to God we didn't do this.

What would be a Putin response?

Right.

So

when the Russians blame the United States,

first, they're not saying that we directly actually orchestrated this, but what they are implying, given our support to Ukraine and the fact that we admitted that we provide targeting information to Ukraine so that they could effectively defend their country against the Russian invaders, they by in the same manner they accuse us of having orchestrated this.

So the response is going to be,

I'm concerned, is further escalation because again

Durgin is a symbol and his daughter has turned into a martyr right now, or has been turned by the Russian media.

And remember, this attack and the explosion,

basically the way that this was done is the explosive device was put under the seat of her car and was remotely detonated.

So

this explosion comes on the heel of a series

of attacks in Crimea.

And remember, the Russians believe Crimea is the red line for Ukraine, despite the fact that Crimea is Ukrainian territory, but because the Russians annexed it in 2014 and they consider it part of Russia right now.

So in combination, all of this

escalation is going to put pressure on Putin to ratchet up

his military assault on Ukraine.

And in fact, President Zelensky himself warned yesterday that around Wednesday, this coming Wednesday, in two days, he's concerned about the Russians staging some something really nasty, some provocations,

because on Wednesday it's Ukraine's independence day when Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union.

So I share that concern whether it's on Wednesday or shortly after.

We know that there are plenty of opportunities, specifically one of the extreme

risks,

moderate probability, but extremely high risk of a disaster that exists right now.

It's related to the nuclear powered plan in Zaporozhye that both sides are accusing each other of shelling, and that is at the risk of erupting in,

you know, in possible, hopefully not soon, but there's definitely that risk.

So we're talking to Rebecca Koeffler.

You actually lived in the Soviet Union, if I remember right.

Absolutely.

I was born and raised there.

I came to the United States in 89 as already as a young adult.

So I went through the whole indoctrination system and everything.

So she is the author of Putin's playbook and a U.S.

intelligence expert.

The idea that we had anything to do with it or that Ukraine did, I find hard to believe because both sides would have to be insane to do it, and it would be very difficult.

We could pull it off, but Ukraine pulling it off, I think, would be very, very difficult.

The idea that this was some anti-ultra-nationalist

group trying to kill him seems difficult

because it would only make him into a martyr.

But who would have in Russia who would have the ability and the desire to do this?

Okay,

so I personally don't find the report

that it's, you know, the National Republican Army, which is supposedly an anti-Putin partisan organization that staged this.

This is not credible to me.

And the intelligence is inconclusive as far as who specifically did this, because it's very, very fresh right now.

I am almost certain that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this.

The FSB, which is the domestic security services in Russia, has attributed this already to a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vosk, who apparently, according to the FSB, that is now

you know, remember, FSB cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean that their analysis and their preliminary investigation isn't correct.

But this is what they have assessed: is that Natalia Bovsk

entered Russia on July 23rd with her 12-year-old daughter, Sophia Shaban, and reportedly rented an apartment in the same building as Daria Dugina,

Dugin's

daughter, that was killed.

And so, and then apparently, Natalia

fled to Estonia.

Now we need to

do more digging.

I'm certain that U.S.

intelligence is involved in the analysis and in the investigation on our own, you know, here obviously not in Russia.

But at this point, it's very difficult to tell.

Yes, Ukrainians do claim that there is an anti-Putin movement going in Russia.

But remember, Ukrainians are just as adapted to disinformation as the Russians are.

And they're fully invested in waging this disinformation in order to dislodge Putin psychologically.

They know how it's done.

So both sides are

invested in this.

And this is going to go on forever.

In the meantime,

Glenn, we keep pumping in weaponry

into Ukraine.

We just announced announced another $775

million

of assistance.

We're hoping that it will help Ukraine to change the battlefield conditions.

But again, they're fighting a highly, you know, a much more superior adversary.

And

there's no end to this.

So, Rebecca, would you do me a favor?

I'd like to stay in touch with this this week as this story develops, and we'll check back with you tomorrow if there's any developments.

But this is extraordinarily concerning to me and Americans need to understand who Alexander Dugan is because his tentacles are in America and he is also, he has fans

on the right in America.

And I think he's an extraordinarily dangerous man.

Thank you so much, Rebecca.

Absolutely.

Good.

Yes, you got it.

All right, Rebecca Koffler.

The name of her book is Putin's.

Hang on just a second.

Let me just.

Playbook.

Putin's Playbook.

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And I think they already have in many cases.

I do not want you to be under-prepared or underinformed.

So I'm going to give you some information here on why this Dugan thing really bothers me.

And

I just,

we'll do that here in just a couple of minutes.

I need more than two minutes to be able to talk about it.

It's incredible, too, that I guess the footage that came out of there after the explosion goes off.

Alexander Dugan standing there in the streets watching his daughter, you know,

burned to death.

I mean, I guess she was already dead by the time

the car caught on fire, per se, but this is...

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Warning at the highest, highest possible level of warning.

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Dugan is extraordinarily dangerous.

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You should read his book, The Fourth Political Theory, and you will understand this guy wants to bring about literally biblical Armageddon.

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I believe this war with Russia, this proxy war, is going to end up being Biden's biggest failure and largest criminal scandal in American history and could possibly be the end of the Western way of life if everything goes wrong.

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I want to talk to you about the game that we are playing in Washington.

I planned on talking to you that today,

but if I have time, I will work it in at this time because it is about what's happening with Zelensky and Biden and

the Ukraine.

But as you may have heard,

Alexander Dugan, a man who I have been warning this audience about forever.

And thank you for listening.

His daughter was killed.

It was supposed to be an attack on him and possibly him and his daughter.

At the last minute, he decided to switch cars.

And when they started the car, the car that now his daughter was in blew up.

They are blaming America in Russia, blaming America and Ukraine.

I think that's nuts, but it very well may be.

It could have come in from something in Russia.

I think Russians have a much better motivation to kill him

than

anyone else, but I don't know, and we may never know, quite honestly.

I want to talk to you

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what could possibly come and why

we need to be very careful, very prayerful, and prepared.

Zelensky has warned now of a nastier phase of war as Russia says Dugan, the bombing, was a contract killing from Ukraine.

If Putin escalates this war, and I don't mean to the point of nuclear weapons, I mean escalates this war in any way where it is horrific,

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I don't think he's thinking clearly.

He has low approval ratings right now, very low.

He has lived in a time where he has seen over and over again a strong reaction, a no fooling around, no joking, I'm serious kind of reaction to a war or to an enemy has always made a president become very popular, at least over the short term.

That's the world in which he comes from.

He also has been wrong

on every foreign policy decision I can think of over his entire career.

He has never been right.

Those around him and those advising him

also have

a special love for a war at this time

because it is the ultimate way to change the world.

If you have war, you can change the world.

And they're already doing it and blaming everything on the war with Putin.

Imagine if we had a devastating war.

That's how worlds change.

That's That's how everything changes.

With the great reset,

that would work perfectly.

One last thing before I tell you what I believe could happen.

Not only is he and the people around him have all those lovely qualities that would make it very dangerous.

I gave a list of like 10 things about five years ago, and I put them up up on a chalkboard, and I said, this has to happen.

And I said,

I can't tell you which order they'll happen, but these things have to happen.

In the last three years,

every single one of those things has happened except one,

and that is global war.

And I said, I know that this will be the last step,

but all of these things have to happen in whatever order they happen.

And the last step will be global war because everybody will just want it to stop.

I am afraid that our

president

will pick the worst of all of the scenarios.

The Pentagon comes in, and this is

happening.

Something has really ratcheted.

And

the president

reacts, so overreacts

that

we are looking at worst

possible case scenarios.

He decides, you know what, you're going to do that.

I'm going to launch a tactical nuke.

Now, normally, I would never say that could happen.

But in today's world, I don't say it can't happen ever.

I don't even say there's probably not a good chance of that happening unless it's a good thing.

I urge you to humble yourself,

to beg the Lord for forgiveness on anything that we have done.

Put yourself on his side and beg him for protection of this country.

I hope this isn't it, and I don't think it is, but I won't, we don't know.

But I have been saying for a very long time: the next war will be fought in such a way that it will sneak up on you, and we'll have an Archduke Ferdinand moment.

That nobody knew who the Archduke Ferdinand was, and we went into World War I over it.

Nobody in the world really knows who Alexander Dugan is.

I hope he's not the guy, and this isn't the reason.

But you need to know who he is

because I think he's just become

much stronger in Russia.

And

he's already strong and strong in the rest of the world.

And he is wildly dangerous.

Let me give you one other piece.

I told you last week about China and what they're doing to our dollar and replacing our dollar.

Zelensky has asked China to rebuild Ukraine once it's all over.

Now, why would our country give $60 billion

only to have the country that is on the side of Ukraine, or I'm sorry, on the side of Russia,

why would they ask them to rebuild it?

It doesn't make any sense.

Now,

my hypothesis, and this is purely war gaming, this is

everything I've told you in this last break.

I have no information other than I can look at the landscape and let's war game.

So,

why would Zelensky ask China?

Isn't that a slap in our president's face and in our face?

Well, when you look at that gay marriage past in Ukraine at the height of the war, when they are still moving women and children across the border, we give them

$60 billion worth of stuff, and then all of a sudden they call a session of all of their lawmakers together.

Public and politicians in Ukraine were against gay marriage.

We give them 60 billion.

In the middle of a war, they come together and say, we're going to work on gay marriage.

And they pass a gay marriage bill.

I'm sorry.

What pressure did Samantha Power and USAID put?

I'm guessing that it was her, but who put the pressure on to get that done?

What else have we attached to that money?

The destruction of the biolabs?

The Biden connection to Burisma and Pravat Bank.

The connection was the guy who started Pravat Bank

and was the head of

Burisma.

He's also the guy that got Zelensky elected, who convinced him to run and put all of the money in for him to get elected.

And after we gave Zelensky the money, the guy who was Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's connection there, one that Joe Biden had the State Department take off his no-enter America stamp on his visa and allow him to come in to America.

That guy was just stripped of his citizenship.

Why?

Why?

I heard last night, and I'm going to have more on this tomorrow, that much of the arms that we have sent over to Ukraine, lost.

Don't know where they are.

Now, how is that possible?

I hope

that none of these things are true, and I hope that none of these things happen.

But I always like, this is me, you may be different, I always like to look at

what

might happen.

And when people have said, we're going to destroy you, we're going to destroy America,

and others are dirty and they're not held accountable.

Instead, they're given green lights and billions of dollars.

I tend to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Pray for your country and pray for guidance and peace.

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I think the United States is in perhaps one of the most dangerous positions we've ever been in.

And let me show you why.

It's because of thinking like this.

This is our Department of Energy Secretary, Gran Holm, what she said this weekend about oil and energy.

Listen carefully.

This invasion by Russia

is

such an example of why countries need to move away from the volatility of fuels from countries who do not have our interests.

Stop.

Now,

I want to play the other side.

I told you last week the brick companies are

all moving towards a a new currency.

And people say that's never going to happen.

Replace currency, replace oil and energy with currency.

This is exactly what they would say if you were in Russia or any of the brick companies, countries.

Listen again.

Imagine they're saying it.

This invasion by Russia

is

such an example of why countries need to move away from the volatility of fuels from countries who do not have our interests.

Got it.

We have to move away from the volatility of the dollar and the Western system because it's run by companies or countries that we may disagree with.

By the way, Fauci has just announced that he is resigning.

He is resigning in December.

100%

guarantee

that at the top of the list to make him resign is

the Republicans are going to hold hearings.

And I will have to face people with the Republicans in charge on what I did and how I lied.

So he's going to be there until, oh wow, just a few days before the Republicans possibly take over.

This is not because, you know, I've always dreamed of retiring and going playing golf, and I guarantee you.

And will the Republicans still hold him accountable?

Will they still call him to Capitol Hill?

I hope they do, but most Americans will say, the guy is old and he's retired and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make?

People died, to quote Hillary Clinton.

All right, we will see you tomorrow.

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