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All right,

I want to start with a positive today.

I want to start with something that I think you need to understand.

When you look at the world, you know, Stu and I were just talking about Alexander Dugan.

And I don't think people have gotten the message yet on Alexander Dugan, but we've been talking about him.

I've been talking about him for what?

Four years, five years?

Yeah.

At least.

And what he's been been trying to do not only in Russia, but all over the world.

Right.

He's a guy who's seen as someone who's on the right, a figure of the right.

I've heard everyone calling him a figure of the right, but I don't think that's appropriate.

Certainly not in the American understanding of the right.

No.

He is a capital T traditionalist.

So I'm a small T traditionalist.

I believe in traditional values.

I believe in, but he is a capital T traditionalist, which is an actual movement that is,

his movement is the,

what is it, the fourth political theory.

And it is based on,

strangely, strong man and chaos.

He believes that chaos is the way to be able to have Russia rule the world.

And he is currently working and pouring money all over the world, including here in America.

If you ever hear him on the air with a host, you should question what you believe about that host.

This man is, I believe, one of the most dangerous men, if not the most dangerous men, in the world.

He believes he has to bring on Armageddon to be able to have Russia become the global leader.

So he is extraordinarily dangerous.

He is also looking for the collapse and the destruction of America as we know it.

So he is not a figure on the right.

He's a fascist.

He believes the only thing that Hitler did wrong was he didn't go far enough.

These are from his writings, by the way.

You're not like...

No, it's not projecting onto him.

No, he's terrifying.

So anyway, they killed his daughter yesterday, and they're blaming it on Ukraine, which is very, very convenient, seeing that he's the guy who designed the Ukrainian policy.

I just don't think Ukrainians are this stupid.

I mean, I think they're corrupt.

The government is.

I think that

they are playing a very dangerous game.

I think they're most likely screwing us, but we're helping them do that.

But they are not stupid enough to go into the heart of Russia and kill Alexander Dugan's Dugan or his daughter, as it happened in this case.

Yeah, because they supposedly swapped cars at the last moment,

which is another bizarre twist in the story.

I think what's interesting, too, is that, you know, there's a lot of people in this audience that heard you talk about Dugan and understand the warnings that you were giving about him.

But what was kind of interesting about how all this played out is that when the Ukraine-Russia conflict sort of hit that peak and Russia went in, there was, I think, a generally speaking, an understandable response by many on the right who, you know, look, Biden and the government were involved immediately.

We've seen this stuff play out so many times.

It's understandable to see it with a lot of suspicion.

We've, we've looked at Ukraine and we've seen a lot of corruption.

You should look at it.

You should look at it.

You know, Zelensky being kind of propped up as this ultimate hero that was going to save the universe and all of this,

I think, elicits an immediate and understandable piece of skepticism, particularly from a conservative audience that's seen this play out so many times.

And all of that may be very well true, right?

Like where you have this situation where there is real corruption in Ukraine and there is all sorts of problems with the media narratives about it.

And the fact that we're sending $60 billion over there and the people who are involved in sending that money,

are we going to waste a lot of it?

Yes.

Are there other things playing out?

Yes.

100%.

All of that can be true at the same time that what you talked about with Alexander Dugan is true.

Yeah, I think where we as a country have gone wrong here is we have assigned the labels good, bad,

and it's really not.

It's more like

instead of black and white, it's more like black and charcoal gray.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's there is a difference there, but

not an awful lot.

And there's been a lot of kind of immediate skepticism of

this whole situation.

And

some on the right have taken immediately the side of Russia, which

I don't hear that a lot from our audience, but I do see it a lot on social media and some writers doing that.

And what's interesting about that is that this is exactly what you were talking about when you were talking about Alexander Dugan initially.

philosophy had a lot to do with Russia and had a lot to do with Russia's position in the world, but it also had a direct path of attack on the American right to try to plant ideas on the American right to tie into what we do have in common with big T traditionalism, traditional values,

but encapsulating his entire worldview on the back of traditional values, which is not something the American people believe in.

Because people will only hear, I'm for religion,

I'm for

traditional values, I'm backing the family.

Uh-huh.

And what else?

What was that about Hitler?

You know, you forget about those things and you don't look at those things, especially when there is an emergency or you're looking for team members.

He is a very dangerous

team member.

But I don't fear it because of this audience.

And let me explain this.

I have said, really, right after September 11th, I said this, I was overwhelmed with a feeling, and I have had this feeling time and time again.

And I really wondered what it meant, but I said it because I knew it to be true.

And what I said was, this audience will turn a corner.

It'll be a pivot point.

This audience will be responsible in the end for saving America or saving at least remnants of it.

but you are going to play a big role in a positive way.

And I've often wondered what that meant.

Well, it dawned on me Friday when something happened.

And then I started thinking about it and I started piecing it together.

I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There was a story that was out from the New York Times, the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

If you want to understand it,

you need to understand the 2010 election.

And what does that mean?

The 2010 election was the Tea Party movement.

The Tea Party movement, when we started going to Washington in droves and demanding change inside the Republican Party.

That's what set up the

political landscape that gave us the the members of the court that we have now.

So you have to understand the 2010 election.

And then I thought, well, the 2010 election, I remember, oh my gosh, I remember the 2010 election.

Wasn't that the year of the Tea Party movement that started and had the first big march, you remember it, where the streets of Washington, D.C.

were packed with people.

Just packed with people.

The right had never done anything like this before.

And I can say this, I had nothing to do with that, but you did.

You did.

And And what was the date of that march?

September 12th.

September 12th, otherwise known to this audience as 912.

That march happened on that day because six months before that, I had gotten on television and I had said, gather around and gather all your friends.

Because there's something we have to talk about it.

And I launched the 9-12 project and I said, I'll tell you in six months what I'm going to do.

You show me in six months what you're going to do.

And that six-month mark was 9-12.

And you showed America what you were going to do.

If you read Barack Obama's latest book, he talks about how the Tea Party movement was the obstacle that he could not overcome.

He said

was thwarted every step of the way because of the Tea Party movement.

Do you remember we were facing the goals,

the

Agenda 21 goals?

We exposed it, I wrote a couple of books about it,

and it became a giant conspiracy theory.

And then it was like, oh, no, wait, it's on the websites.

for the United Nations.

Then it disappeared and it came back as the sustainability goals of 2030.

This audience, because you paid attention to Agenda 21 and spoke out,

this audience bought us an additional nine years.

Imagine how demoralizing things would have been when we pulled out of Afghanistan had you not been there to save

20,000 people and bring them across the border.

How demoralizing if no one would have banded together, worked together, and got those people out without the government.

Now, here's what happened

on Friday that made me realize you already have changed the course.

There was a story in many of the financial papers

that reported that pushback is getting so intense on ESG

that, quote, proponents are pushing for a name change, end quote.

That made me think of Common Core.

Wait a minute, Common Core, whatever happened to Common Core?

Oh, yeah, we started talking about it, and this audience spread the word and stopped Common Core.

I have such great faith

in not only God, but you.

What I have said for a very long time, this audience is going to play a really big role.

And not understanding it while I said it, I understood it Friday, right at the end of this broadcast.

I have been waiting all week, all weekend, to tell you this.

You've already changed the course.

You've already bought us enormous amounts of time.

Keep it up.

You're changing the course of America.

Keep it up.

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John Solomon, welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

Great to be with you, Glenn.

It's good to be with you.

We are living in insane times.

I remember we.

We've talked for years now.

Did you ever really believe that it would ever get like this?

I didn't know.

I mean, we've had this great American experience for 246 years.

And I think back to that speech you gave at CPAC in February.

And I think all the things you said, somewhere along the way, we jumped out of the roots of this great country.

And we're in a place now that doesn't resemble the America that we all grew up in.

It's a very trumbly time.

So I think a lot of people in the last couple of weeks have learned a lot about what to do and what to expect when you're served a warrant at your house.

It's actually a good way.

It's God's way of teaching us the Constitution, I think.

What happened with Donald Trump is, again, I believe, a horror show.

There's no way he's selling secrets, you know, nuclear secrets to Finland.

This is ridiculous.

It does now seem to appear to be

a shot across the bow because he was trying to release documents documents that showed who was involved in the Russia hoax.

Is that true?

Well, listen, there is this long six-year battle between the FBI and Donald Trump.

And of course, it starts with Russia collusion, which we now know was a completely contrived and political investigation that had no predicate, no merit whatsoever.

As the presidency is coming to an end, as Donald Trump's leaving office on January 19, 2021, he declassifies the documents the FBI never wanted out in public.

They didn't want these documents out.

These are the way they handled their informants, what they knew before they signed the CFISA warrants, what they were telling the court versus what they knew internally.

That just inflamed the FBI

all the more.

And for the last year, as I reported, the FBI secretly grabbed those documents.

The president declassified them.

He ordered them to be released.

In the last hour of the Trump presidency, I'm told at 11 o'clock on January 20th, 2021.

The FBI and the Justice Department grabbed those documents.

They made up an excuse.

Hey, we left a couple Privacy Act pieces of information in there from the declassified documents.

Let's grab them.

We'll fix that and we'll release them.

They grabbed them

on them for 19 months.

They've kept them from the American public despite a lawful order of a sitting president.

So he had the documents, but they hadn't been redacted?

They were redacted.

They were completely ready.

They had been declassified, all the declassified markings.

At the last minute, the Justice Department raised an issue that maybe there there was a piece of information there still covered by the Privacy Act.

Let's go look at it real quickly.

It looks like it was really just an excuse to grab the documents.

Right.

So now, did he have those at Mar-a-Lago?

Do we know?

Is that what they were going after?

Not that we know of.

No one has told me.

I haven't found anyone who told me he had the documents here.

And of course, I've asked the president, do you have the documents?

He's told me no.

That's why he gave me permission as a journalist to go to the non-public section of the National Archives and try to find these documents.

That's what led us to the discovery just three weeks ago that these documents had been grabbed by the Justice Department and a secret hand grabbed them and put them into the Justice Department.

So you haven't been able to find them?

No, we know where they are now.

There's two sets.

There's a classified set at the National Archives.

I can't see those because I don't have a security clearance, nor does anyone else in the world.

Normal Nebraska.

Right.

Exactly.

I could have done the sock thing, but that's probably not advisable.

And then the second part is there is a set at the Justice Department, and I'm taking taking multiple actions to try to force the Justice Department.

And I hope to have some really good news later this week.

I've been negotiating with the archives.

They've been working with the Justice Department.

I have a sense, an inkling that we might get these documents in the near future.

All right.

So what was it that the FBI, do you think, was looking for?

It's a great question, right?

The first possibility is maybe what they said is all that it is, right?

This is a dispute between the archives and former President Donald Donald Trump, and they actually went to this unprecedented means to go get documents back by raiding his home.

I haven't found any other great explanation for people, and I think that when history looks back, if that's all this was, if this was a dispute over documents, there is a civil process that could have been followed.

And that means they will have criminalized a dispute over paper.

And with some serious issues involved, and I think there's another part of this, Glenn, that we haven't been able to dig into, and I'm really working on it hard now.

It is impossible for this sort of a dispute to go on and it become criminalized without the Biden White House knowing.

There's just no way the way the system of government works.

So what was the Biden White House's role in these conversations?

I think that's the next big shoe to drop.

I don't know what it is yet, but I'm determined to find out what it is because the way government works, you've got these issues of privilege, you've got these issues of a dispute between the current administration, the past administration, the Biden White House had to be in the loop.

And I don't think their story yet

mad up.

I have to tell you,

just on common sense and the way the world has traditionally worked in America, there's no way a decision that large that would come back to the White House eventually and affect the presidency, not just Biden and Trump, but the entire presidency.

There's no way the Justice Department doesn't call and at least give a heads up.

Am I wrong?

I'm 100% with you.

And there's, I think, another issue here.

Remember that the grand jury subpoena, which I broke the story a couple of weeks ago, was executed on June 3rd in a collaborative way, by the way.

Both sides were still working together then.

That didn't address the issue of executive privilege.

What does that mean?

It means somewhere earlier in the process, somebody had to waive executive privilege in order for a grand jury

subpoena to be issued for presidential documents.

The only Donald Trump isn't going to be waiving it.

I think we're going to find out that the Biden administration waived executive privilege for Trump and that they were deeply involved in this.

That just is the only plausible explanation for why there wouldn't have been a privilege claim back in June when the grand jury first showed the subpoena was first executed.

So, John, I'm doing a special on Wednesday on the history of the FBI and

how corrupt it has been through.

I mean, it really was corrupt from the very beginning.

You know, we had Hoover doing all kinds of stuff that was really, really dark and bad.

Are we at or beyond the Hoover days?

Well, listen, one of the big stories I did when I was at the Washington Post, and I worked for 60 Minutes, for 40 years, for 40 years, the FBI would go into, let's take it out of politics for a second.

They would go into a case and say, that guy on trial for murder, I can assure you that the bullets we found in his bedroom drawer matches the bullets that were shot out of that gun.

And for 40 years, they testified that hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of murder defendants were convicted based on the FBI scientists.

The story I broke in 2007 showed the FBI knew all along that that science was junk science.

It wasn't true, that they couldn't make such a representation, and yet they continued to do it well past the, well, they did during the Hoover years, well past the, all the way into the Mueller years.

So the history of the FBI, whether it's the church hearings, which really went into the Hoover era, or what we've learned, 9-11, the

mistakes in the Oklahoma City bombing, the problems with the FBI lab.

This is an agency that has a very big reputation, but it also has a very big history of abuses time and time and time again.

Any way to rein that in?

It's a great question.

You know, some of the policymakers I've been talking to in Congress, for the first time, I've heard Republicans tell me privately, you know what, it's time to break up the FBI.

Maybe

make them like Scotland Yard and put the domestic intelligence into a different agency.

There is clearly a moment of reckoning for the FBI on the immediate horizon.

The real question is, if you just take the counterintelligence division out, you put it somewhere else, the mentality still exists that there's not a regard for the Constitution.

And that's the part, whether it's inside the FBI or outside of it,

the lack of regard for the Fourth Amendment, for our liberties in the face of a big government, that's the part that hasn't been crushed out.

I'm not sure just dividing the FBI solves it.

Especially the intelligence arm.

The intelligence agencies are completely out of control.

The things I've read about the intelligence agencies, and I've heard from people on Capitol Hill, is they really don't answer to anybody right now.

Yep, they have their own mindset, their own mentality they feel.

And because so much of what they do can stay secret no matter what, as we're seeing in this search warrant today,

we never get a visibility to know if what they're telling us, the excuse they're giving us, is real.

And it's only years later, usually through lawsuits and FOIAs, that we find out, well, the official story of the intelligence community didn't match what we were told at the time.

It's that secrecy that I think creates so much concern.

There was an opportunity in the middle of Russia collusion while Republicans were still in control of of both to do something, to create a permanent advocate so that all intelligence cases that occurred in secret, there would be someone advocating on behalf of the American whose liberties were about to be violated.

They whiffed on that.

Paul Ryan whiffed on that.

Mitch McConnell whiffed on that.

But I think there are a lot of people today that would go back and say, you know, if I had a do-over, I'd probably create that public advocate who goes into the court and argues on behalf of you and me and everybody else.

So,

John, what do you think Donald Trump is talking about when he says that, you know, he said over the weekend, it might be within hours, it might be Monday,

that I'm going to be filing something and big news coming.

What do you think that might be?

My reporting indicates that the president is considering filing a motion to remove Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who, by the way, just a few minutes ago ruled that the entire affidavit cannot be kept sealed.

He believes he used the word unprecedented.

I'm glad he recognizes what he approved is unprecedented.

But he is rejecting the Justice Department's request to keep the affidavit secret.

But I believe that.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

He rejected

the Department of Justice?

This just broke just a few minutes ago.

It's up on Justin News right now.

Judge Reinhart this morning said the Justice Department's request to keep the entire affidavit for the search warrant under seal is rejected, that this is an unprecedented case.

It requires transparency so people can understand why the FBI was authorized to raid a former president.

own.

So that just happened this morning.

That's something that the president was cheering on.

And how long will it be before we see that?

Well, there are two options.

Either they have to deliver the unredacted version of the affidavit on Thursday, or a more likely scenario is the Justice Department will slow walk this, go to a district judge, then go to an appeals court, maybe even go to the Supreme Court.

Oh, my God.

I guess as they're going to go that route.

But meanwhile, the president, to answer your question, I think the president is going to ask that a special master be appointed, a court-appointed, independent person, take the documents from the FBI and go through them and say, these are privileged, these aren't, these are overly expensive, they shouldn't have been collected like your passports, and

not leave the FBI on an honor system given that all we know.

So, I think that's what we're going to see the president do.

That would be great.

John, thank you so much.

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rebecca coffeer thank you so much for joining us on uh short notice as uh as yesterday there was a car bomb uh do you agree with me that it was clearly meant for alexander dugan and not his daughter

well uh hey glenn it's such a pleasure to be uh back on your show with you and your audience um

yes that is the conventional uh wisdom that it is the father alexander Dugin, and the mastermind of the ideology of Eurasianism that underpins Putin's entire doctrine and strategy, which includes the destruction of Ukraine.

It is him who was the target.

However, there's also an alternative hypothesis is that both of them were targeted.

Because originally they were supposed to be driving in one car from the lecture and the

big event that Dugin was speaking at.

And it is at the last moment that the father, Alexander Dugin, switched cars.

So, and because his daughter was just as vocal in the anti-West

narrative that underpins Russia's current anti-U.S.

policy, she possibly was also the target.

Okay, because she's also in the media,

but he is the leader of this.

I just think it's a cult, all around the world.

He is infecting even America with some of his capital T traditionalism, and people just don't understand how dangerous this is.

Do you believe that

it would be in the best interest of Ukraine to try to pull this off?

Okay,

so it is hard to tell.

On the one hand, Ukrainians could perfectly be justified

to

target this person.

Correct.

Again, Dugin has advocated for the destruction of Ukraine.

Right.

He's actually calling, if I'm not mistaken, he's actually calling for

the

elimination of Ukrainians, if you will.

I don't remember the word he used, but it was it seemed like a death Holocaust kind of thing.

But he's calling for more than just occupying, and he is

also

the

idea planter or the seed behind

Crimea and now this incursion into Ukraine, correct?

100%.

So yes, it is possible that there's motives

why Ukrainians would want to target.

Now, to pull something off like that is not a slam dunk.

So a lot of the resources and planning must have gone into this operation.

But let me tell you

about Dugin a little more because he's not only anti-Ukraine, he is anti-America.

I have a whole chapter in my book dedicated to Alexander Dugin because he's considered to be Putin's brain.

His writings, he's a political philosopher, ultra-nationalist.

He was the thought leader behind Eurasianism, as I said,

which underpinned Putin's policy of the so-called Russian world.

Okay, and I would like to give you some quotes about Dugin, who called on Russia to counteract U.S.

policy at all levels and in all regions of the world.

And specifically, he said that Russia, and I quote, must weaken, demoralize, and deceive in order to win.

It is especially important to introduce geopolitical order into America's internal reality, to encourage separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively support dissident movements and extremist racist groups and sects and to destabilize internal processes.

So this is who we are talking about.

He's the mastermind of a very dangerous ideology and

now his daughter is gone and the Russians are up in arms about it.

The Russian media erupted over the weekend blaming the United States and blaming Ukraine for what they characterized as a terrorist attack.

It is

interesting to me that his plan on how to destabilize America,

while they say the right is in bed with Putin,

the plan that Dugan gave to Putin

would be everything that the left is involved in.

And I don't mean necessarily Democrats.

I mean the left of

racial division, et cetera, et cetera.

So the media in Russia comes out with this.

I don't know if we have any credibility to be able to say we didn't do this.

I hope to God we didn't do this.

What would be a Putin response?

Right.

So

when the Russians blame the United States, first, they're not saying that we directly actually orchestrated this, but what they are implying, given our support to Ukraine and the fact that we admitted that we provide targeting information to Ukraine so that they could effectively defend their country against the Russian invaders, they by in the same manner they accuse us of having orchestrated this.

So the response is going to be,

I'm concerned,

is further escalation because again

Dugin is a symbol and his daughter has turned into a martyr right now, has been turned by the Russian media.

And remember, this attack and the explosion,

basically the way that this was done is the explosive device was put under the seat of her car and was remotely detonated.

So

this explosion comes on the heel of a series of attacks in Crimea.

And remember, the Russians believe Crimea is the red line for Ukraine, despite the fact that Crimea is Ukrainian territory, but because the Russians annexed it in 2014 and they consider it part of Russia right now.

So in combination, all of this

escalation is going to put pressure on Putin to ratchet up his military assault on Ukraine.

And in fact, President Zelensky himself warned yesterday that around Wednesday, this coming Wednesday, in two days, he's concerned about the Russians staging

something really nasty, some provocations,

because on Wednesday it's Ukraine's Independence Day when Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union.

So I share that concern, whether it's on Wednesday or shortly after.

We know that there are plenty of opportunities, specifically one of the extreme

risks,

moderate probability, but extremely high risk of a disaster that exists right now.

It's related to the nuclear powered plan in Zaparoja that both sides are accusing each other of shelling, and that is at the risk of erupting in,

you know, in possible, hopefully not soon, but there's definitely that risk.

So we're talking to Rebecca Coffler.

You actually lived in the Soviet Union, if I remember right.

Absolutely.

I was born and raised there.

I came to the United States in 1989 as already as a young adult.

So I went through the whole, you know, indoctrination system and everything.

So she is the author of Putin's playbook and a U.S.

intelligence expert.

The idea that we had anything to do with it or that Ukraine did, I find hard to believe because both sides would have to be insane to do it and it would be very difficult.

We could pull it off, but Ukraine pulling it off, I think, would be very, very difficult.

The idea that this was some anti-ultra-nationalist

group trying to kill him seems difficult

because it would only make him into a martyr.

But who would have in Russia who would have the ability and the desire to do this?

Okay,

so I personally don't find the reports that it's, you know, the National Republican Army, which is supposedly an anti-Putin partisan organization that staged this.

This is not credible to me, and the intelligence is inconclusive as as far as who specifically did this, because it's very, very fresh

right now.

I am almost certain that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this.

The FSB, which is the domestic security services in Russia, has attributed this already to

a Ukrainian woman named Natalia Vosk, who apparently, according to the FSB, that is, now,

you know, remember, FSB cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean that their analysis and their preliminary investigation isn't correct.

But this is what they have assessed, is that Natalia Vovsk

entered Russia on July 23rd with her 12-year-old daughter, Sophia Shaban, and reportedly rented an apartment in the same building as Daria Dugina,

Dugin's

daughter, that was killed.

And so and then apparently Natalia

fled to Estonia.

Now we need to to do more digging.

I'm certain that US intelligence is

involved in the analysis and in the investigation on our own, you know, here obviously not, you know, in Russia.

But at this point, it's very difficult to tell.

Yes, Ukrainians, you know, do claim that there's an anti-Putin movement going in Russia, but remember, Ukrainians are just as adept at the disinformation as the Russians are, and they're fully invested in waging this disinformation in order to dislodge putin psychologically they know how it's done so both sides are you know invested in this and this is going to go on uh forever uh in the meantime you know glenn we keep pumping in uh weaponry into ukraine uh we just announced another 775 dollars

um million dollars

of assistance we're hoping that it will help Ukraine to change the battlefield conditions.

But again, they're fighting a highly, you know, a much more superior, you know, adversary.

And

there's no end to this.

So, Rebecca, would you do me a favor?

I'd like to stay in touch with this this week as this story develops.

And we'll check back with you tomorrow if there's any developments.

But

this is extraordinarily concerning to me.

And Americans need to understand who Alexander Dugan is because his tentacles are in America.

And he is also, he has fans

on the right in America.

And I think he's an extraordinarily dangerous man.

Thank you so much, Rebecca.

Absolutely.

Good.

Yes, you got it.

All right, Rebecca Coffler.

The name of her book is Putin's.

Hang on just a second.

Let me just playbook.

Putin's Playbook.

No, no, no, no.