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You know who's great, Stu?

Is

Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago.

And I have to say great and attractive.

Oh, more than attractive.

Absolutely beautiful.

We seemed to have left that out, and I was worried about people who wouldn't know our opinion on her appearance.

And you definitely wanted them to know?

Oh, yeah, it's very high.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

And we will talk about that and share with you her latest in about 60 seconds.

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Well, Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago,

so profound and such a peacemaker.

I've noticed that too.

Yeah.

And attractive.

Physically beautiful.

Yeah.

And you really feel that way because you've brought it up several times.

Have I now?

Yeah.

Because I, you know, it's the first thing that hits my brain when I'm beautiful.

Okay.

And sometimes I just blurt it out.

I hadn't realized that I had already said it.

So I apologize for that, Pat.

No, that's all right.

I mean, you feel strongly, obviously.

You feel strongly about it.

Yeah, I mean, it's a bit redundant, you know, because I just keep saying it.

But I want people to understand it's difficult to consider

the regime,

the administration of

Lori Lightfoot without

factoring in that, you know, people notice right away how pretty she is.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, if I didn't know better,

if I didn't realize that you're happily married,

I might think that you got kind of a thing for her.

I'm a bit concerned that my wife might be listening

because, you know,

look, it's difficult.

I'm a guy.

I'm a straight-out all-American male.

And, you know, you see someone like Lori Lightfoot and you're a campaign.

You're a cis male, right?

You're cis.

I am.

Yeah, I am cis male.

Now, I was not born a cis male, of course, had a transitioned, actually, I transitioned in 1989.

Did you?

But then I transitioned back in 1999.

Now, it was not, I'm not saying I rejected my initial transition because that would be that's when people do that, and even if you recover it in the news, you're called a hater and you get thrown out of the media.

So I just transitioned twice and just happened to end up in the same spot, which is just happenstance.

You just thought you tried out for a decade or so and then you went.

No, Pat.

No, no,

no.

I was born a person.

That's what I forgot.

Transitioned once and then transitioned back

individually,

not retracing my steps.

I just decided to,

because of the way I was born, to transition back and then...

Because of the way you were born.

And mainly, I will say a good chunk of the reason I transitioned back was Lori Lightfoot.

Oh, wow.

You know, just so attractive.

Wow, even back.

Oh, you think she's good looking now.

Imagine her back in 1999.

I can't.

I can't can't imagine it.

Oh, I can't.

I can't either.

Nor do I necessarily want to.

But anyway, you were talking about the very attractive mare of Chicago.

And her peacemaking ability right now.

She talked about how toxic our discourse is right now.

Here's what she had to say yesterday.

And then we'll show you an example of what she's talking about from last week.

The toxicity.

in our public discourse is a thing that I think we should all be concerned about.

That's true.

And it's ironic, obviously, obviously, that we're having this conversation.

It is ironic happen on Independence Day.

You know, we're not like a lot of other countries where

independence, their version of Independence Day, is marked with

troops and tanks.

And no, what we do in the United States is we come together as a community.

Here's her coming together last week.

He said, Thank you,

Clarence Thomas.

F you, Clarence Thomas.

So that's

ironic, I think, is the word she used.

Yeah, that's a good word.

It really is.

That's a good word.

Ironic.

And I might throw in

hypocritical.

Really?

Yeah, I might.

In what way, Pat?

In the way that she's talking about the toxicity in our discourse after having

been toxic in her discourse just last week.

But if she would have handled it a little bit differently and said, you know what?

Just last week I was saying F you to Clarence Thomas.

And I've decided that's too toxic.

It'd be a little different.

It would be an interesting approach, wouldn't it?

Yeah.

You know, there is that.

There is something to that.

And I think politicians, whether they meant it or not, used to exploit moments like that.

They used to make a big deal out of it.

Yeah.

You know, when your side did something wrong, you call them out.

You know, I mean, not to bring up the example that's been brought up a million times, but that

sister soldier moment of the Clinton administration where he kind of called out like

his people who were his own supporters.

And I think it earned him some level of respect at that time from people across the aisle who said, Wait a minute, thanks for calling those idiots out.

And I think that there's something to that.

There used to be, you know, and especially when you're doing it yourself, you're calling out yourself for your own behavior.

You're right.

She makes a statement.

She says, look, the toxicity is a problem.

Now, look, there is, you know, I don't like

the state of our debate in this country.

And I'm a person who just told you, and to show you how much effort I made on this, I'm a conservative.

Lori Lightfoot's a Democrat.

And I've said nothing but how attractive she is the entire show.

That is an example of coming across the aisle and saying something positive about someone on the other side.

So I obviously lead the way on this.

Obviously.

Obviously.

But like, you know, and I'm a person who's, you know, sold Nancy Pelosi sucks pens, right?

Andrew Cuomo is awful mugs.

Some may say that was toxic.

Maybe some may say that.

And I don't necessarily love that that's how we do things here.

I don't think it's the greatest thing in the world.

I do constantly engage in it, but I don't necessarily think it's the greatest way to run a country.

But there is.

Literally no evidence whatsoever that our political toxicity has anything to do with the shooting.

This person seems to be completely nuts.

He's got tattoos all over his face.

He has been talking about, fantasizing about and rapping about school shootings for God knows how long.

This does not seem to be one of these things where he's like, I just don't agree with the minimum wage policies of this country.

That doesn't seem to be an example of this at all.

The response every single time, especially from the left, about guns after every shooting strikes me as particularly toxic.

They tend to blame,

they put the blood on the hands of their political opponents.

That's pretty toxic, but I don't think that's what she's referring to here.

This is not an example of some person, at least as we know right now, and maybe we'll find this out, there has been some rumors of some of his postings having some quote-unquote right-wing.

And

that encompasses everything to the media.

When someone does something bad,

everything they post is quote unquote right-wing.

So I don't know yet if this is accurate, but it doesn't seem to be politically motivated.

It seems to be random.

It seems to be a very troubled person doing some very troubling things.

It does not seem to be a politically motivated crime.

No, it does.

What does our toxicity have to do with that?

Nothing.

Nothing.

So it's just like these standard talking points that the very attractive Laurie Lightfoot keeps trotting out after she just

violated them

on stage in front of tens of thousands of people last week.

And how is it that you don't at least acknowledge that?

Do you not remember what you did last week?

And she's done many times before,

as a matter of fact, she's contributed to the toxicity a lot.

I mean, when the pandemic was going on, she's telling everybody, hey,

stay in your house.

Don't go anywhere.

You can't go to gyms.

You can't get your hair done.

That day she goes out and gets her hair done.

And then when she's questioned about it, she's all pissed off.

Well, look, I care about my hygiene.

I know the rest of us don't.

I will say, you know, obviously she cares about her.

Obviously, she cares about her hair.

She's very attractive.

This is a person who is highly a specimen.

Should be a supermodel.

Well, yeah, I mean, I would say she is.

She's a supermodel without even trying.

She just walks out every day on stage, auto supermodel.

She's on auto mode, Pat.

And look,

she needs to get her hair done.

She needs to get her hair done.

You know, she's not like us, Pat.

No, she's not like us.

She's not like us.

She's important.

Yeah.

We're just dumpy guys.

You know,

Our hair gets cut.

It doesn't get cut.

When the pandemic happened,

all of our, you know, all the haircutting places around here, all the salons and barber shops were closed.

And so I sat there for months and months and months without a haircut, like most people did in that period.

And, you know.

Unlike most people, we have to be on camera every day doing our shows, Studios America, Pat Gray Unleashed.

And did we look a little terrible at times?

Probably.

But you know what?

No one cared because no one goes to us for our looks.

They do go to Lori Lightfoot for her looks.

That's why.

Why do people move?

Do you know that for a fact?

Absolutely.

Why do people move to Chicago?

It's non-stop violence.

Why would you go?

Lori Lightfoot.

You go for Lori Lightfoot.

That's why you go there.

You move to Chicago specifically to view Lori Lightfoot and just hope you see her.

Because you could view her from afar, actually.

But I mean, it's the same thing as watching the Super Bowl live or on television.

You want to be there in person.

You really do.

And Lori Lightfoot.

Lori Lightfoot's speech is the equivalent to the Super Bowl, in my mind.

And you saw this yesterday with her incredible points.

It's amazing that people like Lori Lightfoot are actually in charge of cities.

She has been a catastrophe, right?

Is there anybody who argues with this?

Anybody, any Democrat in Chicago that would argue with the fact that Lori Lightfoot has been a catastrophe?

Yeah.

This is not of someone who has.

Now, look, her attractiveness aside, she's not been a good mayor.

No, she's not.

Look what's happened in Chicago while she has been the mayor of it.

I mean, they had the, what do they call it?

The

golden mile or the, what is it called?

All those great shops on Michigan Avenue.

It's a great city.

Chicago is a great city when you're not getting shot.

And they were all vandalized and they were broken into on a regular basis for the whole summer of 2020.

And then she's got the shootings that happen every single day.

And then every weekend, you've got in the dozens of people who've been killed, oftentimes, killed and wounded by gunfire.

Just normal course of behavior.

Over and over and over.

That's what's so stunning about it.

You know, it is,

and it's so bizarre the way that the left approaches this.

You know, there is this constant churn of violence in these cities, who have been run by Democrats for decades and decades, and in some instances, a half century or more.

Honestly, most instances now.

And it just keeps churning and churning and churning.

No one seems to do anything about it.

No one seems to care about it.

The media doesn't seem to care about it.

And you have these three giant buckets of quote-unquote gun violence, which, you know, again, that's kind of a weird way to look at it.

You're seemingly blaming.

the tool used rather than the person using the tool, but let's go with it for a second here.

You have these gun violence, these giant buckets.

You have the gang violence that goes on,

generalized crime in these cities every single day, which is a huge chunk of the problem when you're talking about gun violence.

Then you have another huge chunk of the problem, which is suicide.

About

half the gun deaths in this country are suicide.

And you have these two huge things that the left doesn't really seem to want to do anything about.

They don't care about it.

They never talk about it.

And then you have this one tiny little fraction.

which obviously doesn't matter if you were involved in one of these things.

I mean, some of the details coming out of this Highland Park shooting are just heartbreaking.

I mean, absolutely awful in every single way.

And if you're involved in something like that, obviously there's no way to

make that pain feel any better.

But it's like, it is a, when you're talking about a nation, it is a very tiny fraction.

of what we're talking about when we're talking about gun violence or violence overall.

And just because the left believes this is the way to convince people that your gun should go away,

this is the one they go after all the time.

And, you know, because often they're guns that are purchased legally much more often than the typical murder, right?

They go through the system.

They go, they pass through all of these laws

and still are able to often get these guns.

Where, you know, the typical gun, we've talked about this before.

The DOJ did a study about state and federal prisoners.

And they asked them, all the people who got caught for gun crimes, they said, hey, where'd you get your gun?

They did a survey of them.

They found that 1.3%

of them got it through a retail purchase.

1.3%.

So a lot of them were stealing them from friends,

stealing them from

friends or relatives,

giving gifts from friends or relatives.

People just gave them the guns.

Sometimes they found them on other crime scenes.

Sometimes they were bought off the black market, all of these other ways, but none of them regulated.

None of them that any of these laws would actually touch.

None of them.

I mean, 1.3%.

So they're trying to micromanage the criminal behavior of 1.3% of people who are already criminals by punishing 99.9% of the regular people out there that buy guns and don't use them for the nefarious purposes.

It doesn't make any sense.

It wouldn't make sense in any other context.

But here we are because of people like Lori Lightfoot, Lightfoot, the very attractive Lori Lightfoot, and other politicians throughout America who use these things for their own advantage.

Obviously, Pat, no one could make the statement that Lori Lightfoot made yesterday with a straight face if they actually meant it.

Right.

You just were on stage saying, F the Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas.

And the next day you're like, you know what?

We need a civility.

Come on.

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We should note that not every mayor is as attractive as Lori Lightfoot, and there are other mayors in this country that are not known necessarily for their physical beauty, but are known for their wonderful policies and everything going on in their cities.

For example, the Philadelphia mayor is, he wants just a couple of new policies.

Common sense, common sense gun reform.

Can we get some of that?

I know we just passed a giant bill about it, but like, why don't we have more done?

You know, why don't we do something, Pat?

Thank you.

Do something.

Something, something.

Something.

For example,

the Philadelphia mayor went to Canada a couple of weeks ago.

He said, quote, I was in Canada two weeks ago.

Yeah.

Never thought about a gun.

The only people who I knew who had guns in Canada were police officers.

That's the way it should be be here.

Yeah.

That's pretty consistent with the Second Amendment, right?

That's pretty consistent.

Yeah.

Would you say?

I don't know.

And I know when I go out, the only thing I think of when I'm in the United States of America is guns.

When I'm out and about, all I can consider are guns.

Are there guns on that person?

Does he have a gun?

This is how the woman thinks all the time.

This is how they thought about COVID.

Yeah.

And this is how they think about guns.

They were like, oh my God, that person's a disease vector is how they've spent the last two years.

And now that they're finally going outside, they're worried that everyone's going to shoot them.

Even though these situations, while it's a problem, very, very rare, it's important to say.

Now, there were 51 shot and seven dead in New York over July 4th weekend.

Now, you didn't hear anything about that because I guess it didn't happen at a parade.

I don't know exactly why you didn't hear about that, but that happened.

And one of...

By the way, there's another city where it's very difficult to obtain a gun.

Yeah, very difficult.

And the state, who is now like intentionally passing unconstitutional laws, which

literally in the opinion from the other day from Clarence Thomas, it talked about how you can't just name like the entire island of Manhattan as a special exempt zone from the carry permits.

And then they just basically did that.

They're like, well, you can't carry, you can carry a gun, of course.

I mean, the Supreme Court said, but you can't carry it where other people might be

or where there might be light or darkness but other than that you can carry it wherever you might be um a new york mayor by the way not shot a new york mayor's aide was not shot this weekend which is uh news in and of itself i suppose but uh she was robbed uh excuse me he was robbed uh by uh by an uh some person at gunpoint uh forked over his wallet and cell phone and then was assaulted when he refused to abide by the demands so life in the big city is going well, Pat, I guess, is my summary here.

Yeah.

And I think these policies, if you just continue to roll them out for a couple more decades,

give the Democrats 12, 15 more decades, and these problems are going to start to subside.

Well, that's the thing.

Give them a chance.

Yeah, again, we got to give them a chance.

Give them a chance.

Yeah, you know, you're going to find out what's in these bills when you pass them.

And now that they're passed, just give them a couple of centuries of constant and unchallenged leadership, and everything should be fine.

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Yet another poll

that bodes so well for our brain-dead president, Joe Biden.

He's really not doing well in these polls.

But, you know, here's the problem:

they just haven't communicated their message well enough yet to the American people.

If If they could just communicate what they're trying to do to raise inflation, gas prices,

to allow free flow of illegals and drugs and terrorists across the U.S.

border, if they could just communicate why they're doing all of these things, it would be so much better for them.

So you think putting Joe Biden out in front of the people more often for him to, you know, fall over on a bicycle in public issues.

That's exactly what needs to happen.

Yes, exactly.

Really?

See, for him to stumble and stammer and not be able to get his train of thought going and say the wrong numbers.

You notice this thing with numbers?

He cannot give a number correctly.

He can't do it.

It doesn't matter if it's written on a teleprompter in 80 font.

It doesn't matter.

He just can't give you a number.

I don't know what the deal is with that because he can get through some things some of the time, but he can never get through numbers.

If he has to say them, he's screwed.

Yeah, it's what he does.

There's like a mental block of some sort.

And I think the mental block is turned from a block into a giant wall

that is impenetrable.

Yeah.

Because he really can't do it.

Now, let me give you some actual numbers here.

Joe Biden, when he started

in office, he was around mid-50s approval rating.

I think he was as high as like 59, wasn't he?

58 or 59?

Some polls.

The Monmouth poll, I think he peaked at 54.

Okay.

But he has constantly fallen from those levels.

And to give you a sense,

it's very typical for a president to start their administration in somewhat of a honeymoon period.

You've heard that phrase before.

You get this sort of burst of everyone in America, generally speaking, the American people like the country.

They're willing to at least give a new president an attempt at success, right?

Like they're going to say, hey,

and I'm the same way.

Like, I

was very confident Joe Biden was going to be a terrible president.

Now, I don't know that I thought he was going to be this bad.

I thought he was just going to be terrible.

I can tell you, I did not think he would be this bad.

I knew he was going to be bad, but there's no way you could have ever predicted how bad he would be.

Yeah, I think that's true.

I mean,

I don't know.

I'm trying to think of what I expected to be different.

I didn't think the withdrawal from Afghanistan would be botched as badly as it was, for instance.

I didn't think inflation would be almost 10%

or the real number being close to 20%.

I didn't think gas prices would be $120 per barrel, which they're down from that now, but $120

a barrel.

Yeah, to use that, and the reason why, because you might say, how could you not think Biden was going to be this bad?

Here's my two-part answer to that.

One

is we went through the Obama administration, where you have a guy who I think arguably was more committed to the ideology than Joe Biden is.

A guy with 60 votes in the Senate, a filibuster-proof majority, who, of course, did spend lots of money and launched a bunch of new programs.

And we didn't see inflation like that at that time, right?

So, like, you think, okay, Biden

has less support in Congress, is less convincing of a speaker.

You know, obviously, everyone loved Obama back in the day on the left.

And so, you'd think he'd get less done.

And

while he might be as bad as Obama, it might not be worse than that.

Secondarily, I would say, you know, as a guy who

went through the Obama administration, who was in the Obama administration, Biden was obviously a guy who was far left, but never seemed as committed to that ideology as Obama was or many people around him.

Instead, what he has done is tried to run this as if AOC is president.

I mean, like, really, he has been, not only has he been a bad, incompetent president, which I largely would have predicted pretty easily, I think, he has been much farther left than even

the president he served under.

At least, I don't know if that's actually accurate.

At least he has governed that way.

And he's governed that way with razor-thin majorities.

You know, he's tried to pass $6 trillion of build-back better spending with 50 senators.

And then he talks about how frugal he's been.

He didn't get that done.

He's unbelievable.

And he tried to get 3.5 trillion done.

Then he tried to get 1.8 trillion done.

He's tried over and over and over.

He spent 1.9 trillion on COVID nonsense that we did not need at that time.

He then got the Republicans to come along for another $1.1 trillion of infrastructure spending that we did not need.

And he's gone through all of this and he's been...

While the general direction of incompetence, I think, was predictable with someone like Joe Biden, who has never really succeeded at anything in his entire life.

I mean, the guy's been a complete failure at everything he's attempted in his entire life.

So this is what you get when you select someone like that.

But like, he has been

much, much more incompetent than I could have imagined.

I mean, I honestly believe if you picked a random stranger off the street and put him in office, he could not be worse than Joe Biden is.

And that's, you know, I mean, a lot of this might just be because at times he's completely tuned out.

But I think that if that stereotype were true all the time,

things would be going better.

You know, if he handed this off to leftists who were generally professionalized at what they were doing, you know, some of these advisors who were around him, if he handed off the presidency completely to those people, I think things would be going better.

Because at least those people would be able to do things in some relatively competent fashion.

Afghanistan is the perfect example of that, Pat.

We all knew what the left wanted out of Afghanistan.

They wanted to get out of there as soon as possible.

They don't prioritize our defense.

We all know the way that they act.

And a lot of us were on board with, hey, eventually this needs to end.

But the way they did it was...

was just pure and utter incompetence, fueled by an ideology that blinded them from any of the downsides.

And that sort of thing is, it's almost impossible to predict.

It's almost as if you've hired someone who's intentionally trying to destroy the country.

That's what it feels like at times with Joe Biden.

Which there's a question we ask almost every day on Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens immediately before the show live and then anytime you want on your podcast.

But if you were trying to destroy the country,

What would you do differently?

Yeah.

And I can't think of anything.

No.

I mean, they've covered all the bases and then some.

I mean, after, it's one thing to spend $1.9 trillion on stuff we didn't need when you come into your administration.

Almost every administration seems to get one bill like that at the beginning.

Like, you know, the stimulus plan with Obama, everyone seems to have that one bill that they get passed at the beginning, the tax cuts for Trump.

Like, everyone gets one through, it seems.

So he gets the $1.9 trillion through fine.

Like, obviously, it's not fine at all, but like, we kind of expect that.

And,

but that was really before inflation started hitting in a noticeable way in the statistics.

It was happening.

I think it was bubbling under.

You saw, you know, things like cryptocurrency react to it, right?

And have that big run.

That kind of led those numbers, but it didn't lead the spending.

The spending was there.

It started, obviously, in 2020 with the COVID stuff initially.

And then once the country had already started bouncing back, people were going back to work.

We spent another $2 trillion on it.

So that was really the thing where democratic economists economists were coming out and saying, guys,

I'm with you on a lot of this stuff, but you got to stop, right?

People who were in the Obama administration, the Treasury Secretary of the Obama administration came out and said, hey, guys, you do this now.

We're going to have massive inflation.

But okay, they get that through.

Then the inflation happens.

They do the infrastructure bill.

And then he still

wants multiple trillions of dollars of spending after we've seen the results, after the inflation inflation has happened, after everybody's already paying the price for this, they still want to spend multiple trillions of dollars.

So there's this weird intersection where President Biden stands in the middle of every single day between complete and utter incompetence and an odd ideological lock that's immovable by facts.

You know,

everyone goes back to, you know, Chairman Mao, right?

Who's like, yeah, look,

things aren't going so well, but we just keep pushing through.

Yeah, sure, 10 million died.

Let's keep going.

And eventually this will turn around.

And they just keep going and going and going and going and going.

That sort of ideological dedication to this ridiculous spending and these terrible ideas is fascinating from Biden.

And then his execution of it is always terrible.

So those two things combine to the lowest approval rating ever recorded from any president up until this day of the presidency.

This is now he's he's surpassed Trump, who was the other guy who had a low approval rating.

And again, the asterisk is always there with Trump because he started without the honeymoon period.

His approval rating was literally the entire time he was president, never above 50%.

So he started much lower than these other presidents because he came in, obviously, as a pretty divisive figure.

He just never, approval rating was never never his thing, right?

That's not how he won the presidency.

That's not how he governed.

He never tried to be this like broad-based, hey, everybody come together guy.

He was a guy who said, look, this is what I believe, and this is what I'm going to do.

And that's what a lot of people on the conservative side liked about him, right?

He just didn't, he didn't care.

Well, that's not what Biden ran at.

He ran as the opposite of that, a guy who was supposed to bring the country together.

He was this big uniter.

He was going to bring everybody together.

So he started at 54%.

By summer, he was down in the mid-40s.

Then you had Afghanistan go on.

He dropped down to 42%.

And then since the end of the year, 42%, 40%, 39%, 39%, 38%.

And then yet again, another new low.

This is the Monmouth Bull, 36% approval rating.

This is, again, lower than any other president at this point in their presidency in recorded history, going back to, I believe it's Truman.

So

pretty incredible.

If he could just communicate better what he's done, though, his message just needs to be communicated better.

And then I think he'd skyrocket.

You do?

Yeah.

Now, do you think he could clear these numbers?

Because let me give you the breakdowns by party.

All right.

Okay.

3% approval by Republicans.

Now, that is...

Three?

3%?

Oh, I've never seen that.

I don't think we've ever seen that.

You might say that's not so good.

Okay.

Now, I'm going to say right off the bat, that doesn't seem good.

It doesn't.

I'm going to allow you to believe believe that.

Okay.

But

it's not two or one, which are the other lower options.

Or zero.

It could be 0%.

That's a good spin on that, Stu.

So it's 3%, which is much better than the alternative

of 0%, 1, or 2.

Okay.

It's bad.

50% higher than 2.

Now, independents, though, must absolutely love it.

They love it.

Absolutely love it.

Now, you might say,

in a stereotypical world, what you might get is a 0% approval rating from Republicans, 100% for Democrats, and 50% from independents, right?

That might be what you'd expect.

Independence, 29%.

Now, that is catastrophic level.

Adismal.

It's catastrophic.

It is.

A lot of these people are Democrats who just kind of say their independence.

Like, you know, I'm a registered independent.

Obviously, I'm conservative and do not vote for Democrats, but I am a registered independent.

I've been that for my entire life.

So I would fall into the category of independent.

And so this is true for both sides.

There's a lot of people who register as independent.

They're not necessarily in a party, but they have real leanings.

Those people are included in that 29%.

So there's a lot of Democrats essentially in there, and they are counting in that 29%.

But this actually might be the most disturbing one, and it's not going to sound that bad, but only 74% of Democrats approve.

And those numbers, to give you context of that, is about where Nixon was among Republicans when he left office.

Wow.

Only about 70% approval rating for Nixon when he left office among Republicans.

So your party basically doesn't abandon you, right?

You're always going to have most of those people with you.

It's impossible to get it lower.

Not impossible.

I shouldn't put it past Biden, but it's very difficult to get it any lower than this.

This is basically your bottom.

It's really hard to get your approval rating down to 74% among the party that elected you.

That just doesn't happen very often.

And here we are at 74%.

You start getting that into the 60s.

I don't know.

There will be that talk.

And I think a lot of it depends on what happens in this election coming up as to whether he's the candidate in 2024.

And they definitely, already they don't want him.

Yeah, we should get into some of that maybe too.

They don't want him.

There's some big stories that have come out recently on this.

A bunch of celebrities called the White House and they had this little call that they've been doing where, hey, guys, what if you guys do some TikTok videos?

You guys can post some TikTok videos.

Here's what we'd like you to say in your TikTok videos to support the administration.

Now, this has been going on for a while, but now those celebrities are like, why?

Why are we going to do that?

What are you doing for us?

Like, they're fighting back.

But, like, if this election goes as badly as it may for Democrats,

you're going to see, I think, a real push for someone like Gavin Newsom to be the candidate instead of Joe Biden.

I don't think they're going to push for Kamala.

No, I don't think so either.

Why?

Because she's a black woman.

The only reason.

And they're racist.

Yeah.

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Americans believe we're on the wrong track.

Well, 88% of us do.

Just only 88%.

It's not like it's 100% of people.

There's still 12% who think we're doing great.

Even if you're a Democrat, you can't be.

How can you be?

You just got to be like screwing with the pollsters.

There's a certain amount of people who will just say the thing you're not supposed to say to a poll.

It's factored in all the time.

No matter what question you ask, you will not get 0%.

And that is true, but I have never seen 88%

say that we're on the wrong track.

That's what I mean.

That's unbelievable.

I'm saying that 12%, I think, is lying.

Oh, yeah, I know.

I think they're just like, nah, come on.

It's incredible.

We know what you want us to say.

Obviously, things are going terribly, but hey,

I had that conversation with my kids this weekend and that.

You know,

I think they hear a lot of

bad news.

They think things aren't going well.

And they don't watch the news, obviously.

they're nine and ten years old but you get a general idea that people are a little upset with the president we live in texas so biden's approval is not even the lofty 36 percent he is nationally i mean even people do not generally like biden here in texas but it's like you have to have to keep reminding them yeah you know we have a really

things are not going great and joe biden's not a great president but We still have the best country in the world.

It's still the best place to be.

Like trying to keep that July 4th spirit alive a little bit is a bit challenging, honestly.

And I think that's a bit unfair.

It still is legitimately the best country.

I do not want to go anywhere else.

I love it here.

There's a lot to love.

But man, it's a challenging time.

It is.

And it's hard to be excited about the future with this sort of leadership.

It is.

And that's why his approval rating's at 36% in the new Monmouth poll.

But there's even discontent among his extremist base, like the Hollywood elites.

People like Deborah Messing, who is unpleased with him right now.

Now, people might say, wait, wait, you might say, wait, who is Deborah Messing?

Like, that might be your commercial question.

Like, wait, why are you saying this name as if I should know what it is?

And, of course, Deborah Messing was one of the stars of Will and Grace, a foundational

educational program that aired in this country.

And the Joe Biden, yes, 90s and maybe the early 2000s.

Okay.

But Joe Biden said this about Will and Grace, just to give you an idea of how important Will and Grace was.

Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

Ever.

Yeah.

Now,

anyone has ever done so, like the Founding Fathers, for example.

Yes,

Will and Grace was by far more informative and educational than the Founding Fathers.

What about some of the religious scholars and leaders from history?

Popes and leaders of churches.

Right.

No, Will and Grace.

Will and Grace

far exceeds them.

Albert Einstein, you know, one of the

great

not to the Will and Grace level.

No.

Okay.

I mean, Will and Grace, you have to know its importance.

Now,

I don't want to misgender anyone here.

I want to be very careful, but was she Grace?

Am I to assume that she was Grace in Will and Grace?

Yes.

Accurately?

Oh, indeed, she was.

All right, good.

So she, Deborah Messing, the former Willing Gray star, was among dozens, dozens.

I want you to hear that word again, dozens

of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call,

dozens of celebrities and activists who joined a call with the White House last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning of Roe versus Wade.

The mood was fatalistic.

And, you know, sometimes you need to stop and say, we've been saying that maybe things aren't going so well.

Think of how great it is that there was a fatalistic call

dozens of celebrities in the White House.

Does that make me a bad person that I love it so much?

I love it.

I have to love it too.

In your face.

I love that.

And I know, again, we were talking about Lori Lightfoot, the very attractive, by the way, Lori Lightfoot earlier, saying that we need civility right after saying F Clarence Thomas.

And we also

want civility and also feel great about that phone call.

And I, I just,

I mean, I, I, it almost makes me feel romantic.

I love it so much.

Yep.

You know, it is like, I want to have a sip of wine.

I want to just sit back and maybe some candlelight lit.

Right.

It's a romantic evening with this story.

The mood was fatalistic, according to three people on the call, which is also

co-organized by the advocacy group Build Back Better Together.

Could they have worse names than these are Build Back Better Together?

It's just a collection of words.

Did AI write that?

I don't even understand.

It's so clunky.

It is.

Build Back Better Together.

We've obviously covered the history of Build Back Better and very, very, there's quite a bit of evidence that it was created overseas and just translates poorly.

It's just like, you know, a bunch of foreign leaders used this before Biden picked it up.

And it seems like it's just they just translated and stole a sort of

great reset-esque phrase from other world leaders and just like, oh, build back better, build back, better,

build back, better,

it's just terrible.

Well, they all start with B.

Yeah, I know, but

somebody's like, whoa, that's perfect.

And it ends in er.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

And then you add in together at the end.

It's like a build back better together.

Who would name their organization?

This is as you say.

Like a four-year-old.

Right.

Like someone who had a giant dartboard of words and just started throwing darts blindly at it.

The first four words it hit, they put in the name of the organization.

It's just terrible.

Deborah Messing, by the way, is Grace from Will and Grace, and that has

been important

shows.

Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

One thing

I don't want to call it our precedent here because sometimes we are critical.

We can be critical critical of our leaders.

And I want to be very careful when we do that.

But I don't like the way he seemed to allow for a possibility that someone was more educational.

He says almost anyone else has ever done.

It's not strong enough.

Which acts as if someone could have possibly, maybe he's not thinking of it at that time.

He's allowing for the possibility that someone taught us more than Will and Grace.

And I find that to be offensive.

Me too.

I hope that's not what he meant.

Me too.

You know, maybe he's just trying to allow for something like the alt-right that might have a different opinion.

But I feel like Will and Grace was definitely number one in our education over the past few centuries, at least.

There's no question.

Okay.

No question.

So Deborah Messing from Will and Grace said she gotten Biden elected.

I always just say that one more time because as you know, she's hasn't.

Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

Can you picture these lunatics sitting at home saying, Deborah Messing thinks she got Joe Biden elected?

What kind of insane person you have to be to be as, to have the lack of influence of Deborah Messing and think you got the president elected?

I mean, you have to be completely off your rocker to think that.

And yet she does.

Deborah Messing said she'd gotten Joe Biden elected and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all.

Yelling.

God, I love this.

I love this phone call, Pat.

I love this too.

She's yelling at the White House, yelling that there didn't even seem to be a point to voting.

Others wondered why the call was happening.

That afternoon, participants received a follow-up email with a list of basic talking points.

This is how your society operates, everybody.

This is how.

Why is the media all saying the same thing at the same time?

Why are all these celebrities doing the same Instagram posts at the same time?

Because the White House is telling them to do it.

And this is why they think that everything we do is

coordinated.

Coordinated and planned like this, because that's how they operate.

We do not on the right.

And a lot of people argue we should because it's obviously somewhat of an effective tactic because people are idiots and they fall for this stuff.

There's people out there like Deborah Messing.

Yes.

Who got the president elected and has taught us more than almost anybody ever has.

Well, Willem Grace probably probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

I don't like the use of his word, the word probably there.

Probably and almost need to be removed from that statement.

See another gaffe from Joe Biden because they definitely taught us more than anyone ever.

That afternoon, they got the follow-up email, which gave...

These dozens of celebrities and activists a basic list of talking points and suggestions of Biden clips to share on TikTok.

This is a real story I'm reading you right now.

This is just word for word from CNN.

My gosh.

Wow.

The call three days after the decision, eliminating federal abortion rights.

It's not really what it did, but encapsulates the overwhelming sense of frustration among Democrats with Biden.

It offers a new window into what many in the president's party describe as a mismanagement permeating the White House.

No!

How dare you say that?

Top Democrats complain that the president isn't acting with or perhaps is even capable of the urgency the moment demands.

And that's interesting because they think

he should overturn the Supreme Court's overturning of Roll versus Wade.

That's what they believe.

They're so stupid.

Yeah.

They believe that he has some sort of mechanism where he can make this all go away.

Well, he can't.

Well, there is a bit of fan service you can do in these situations, and it's happening in New York right now.

For example, the ruling comes out in the Supreme Court where Clarence Thomas writes the opinion, hey, you can't just say the Second Amendment is some secondary right that you don't have to respect.

People get to carry their guns around.

And in the ruling, they say specifically, you can't just turn like, yes, there can be

special exceptions, certain areas,

a courthouse, a bank, there can be certain areas where you don't have guns, but

you can't just say Manhattan.

is a protected area, right?

Which is what they are essentially trying to do.

And so that overrule happened.

The rule was tossed out.

And so Kathy Hochl went immediately to the legislation.

They passed a law that basically did that.

That basically said, well, of course, now you can carry a gun.

We agree with the Supreme Court on that.

Well, we don't agree, but we're going to honor their ruling because that's our system of government.

Let's now pass a law that basically designates any place you would possibly carry a gun as illegal to carry a gun.

Exactly what the Supreme Court said you can't do.

And so the fan service part of this is their activist friends, their supporters, their idiot Deborah Messings, will say, good, they're doing something about this.

Now, Kathy Hochul knows that eventually this will get overturned in the courts.

It will probably get overturned pretty quickly in the courts.

And she knows this will eventually happen.

But what she can do then is blame the court.

She doesn't have to take responsibility for any of the things that occur.

She doesn't actually have to govern.

She doesn't have to actually come up with a plan.

She doesn't have to actually do anything.

She just puts it on them to tell her no.

And then she could say, well, I tried.

I tried to do something.

And that darn Supreme Court stopped me again.

And let me try a new law.

And again, that one will be overturned because this is how our system of government works.

But there are a lot of Deborah Messings in the world.

Not always as influential.

as Deborah Messing, but as dumb as Deborah Messings.

Well, they couldn't possibly be as influential as Deborah Messing because...

Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

That's true.

Yeah.

So a lot of people don't have that sort of influence, but they are as stupid as Deborah Messing.

So she will cheer something like that on.

She'll say, oh, wow, finally, someone's doing something.

But it doesn't mean anything.

And this has been a very common refrain.

We're starting to see this, you know, you see it in the world of sports all the time.

The NFL suspends someone for 58 seasons.

And then, of course, it it just gets overturned in some arbitration hearing.

And the NFL can say, well, we tried.

We did what we could.

They overturned it.

What are we?

Hands in the air.

What are you going to do?

It's very typical tactic.

And going into an election, this is exactly what Kathy Hochul is doing in New York.

And it is probably what a bunch of states are going to do.

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So good, Pat, this article.

I mean, I don't praise CNN this often, but

this is just fantastic.

Two dozen leading Democratic politicians and operatives, as well as several within the West Wing, tell CNN that they feel this goes deeper than questions of ideology and posture.

Instead, they say it goes to questions of basic management.

Multiple Democratic politicians who have reached out to work with Biden, whether it's on specific bills, brainstorming or outreach, often don't hear anything back at all,

which is probably better than him actually answering because he's so incompetent.

Potential appointees have languished for months waiting to hear if they'll get jobs

or when they'll be done with vetting.

Invitations to events are scarce.

Thank you calls barely happen.

Even some aides within the White House wonder why Biden didn't fire anyone from the West Wing or at the Food and Drug Administration to demonstrate some accountability or at least anger over the baby formula debacle.

Now, of course, they did respond to that with Operation Fly Formula, one of the most successful operations in the world.

In the history of the world, I believe.

Not as successful as Will and Grace, which had real impacts.

Well, because Will and Grace.

Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

And you can't approach even

level, but

it was successful.

It was.

Nonetheless.

Inside the White House, aides are exhausted from feeling forever on red alert, batting at a swarm of crises that keep growing enough for the White House press secretary, Corinne Jean-Pierre, to make an offhand joke about the constant 11th hour decision-making in the building when under fire at a recent daily briefing.

When Corinne Jean-Pierre is critical of what you're doing, considering her job performance,

that is really saying something.

She

is terrible, man.

I mean,

I hate to say it.

We never like these people on the left

that lie every day for the White House, but she's really bad at it.

She's exceptionally bad at it.

I swear, this had to be a hand-picked choice of Jen Saki.

Because Jensaki was not good at her job, but she looks like the greatest communicator in all of of human history after comparing her with Corinne Jean-Pierre.

Corinne Jean-Pierre can't get through one

briefing without reading for multiple minutes at a time.

She just looks down at a binder and stares at it, reading unrelated responses to the questions given.

I mean, Peter Doocey runs her in circles every day.

I mean, it really is embarrassing.

Again, I like the fact that the administration gets embarrassed over their terrible policies, but it is,

it's somewhat disquieting to watch the leadership of your country act this way so incompetently at every turn.

Yeah.

You'd like them

to not be so awful.

You know, kind of.

Isn't that a weird thing to ask for?

No, I don't think it is.

What if they weren't terrible?

What if there's an alternative world in which they didn't screw up everything they touched?

I'm just throwing that out there as a possibility for future ideas for Democrats.

What if you didn't screw up all things?

Yeah.

You know, all the things.

What if all the things weren't screwed up all the time, all the time?

I can't imagine what that would be like now because it's been two years of this almost

solidly screwing everything.

I mean, they're the opposite of the Midas touch.

Right.

Everything they touch turns to crap.

Yeah.

Like instead of screwing up all of the things all the time, what if you targeted screwing up some of the things some of the time?

That would be better.

Instead of all of the things at all times, it's better than it is all the time.

So, yeah.

These are just ideas.

We're throwing them out there.

I don't know if they've considered any of them.

No, clearly they have not.

No.

But, I mean, look,

you have to understand that they could still turn this around with real power players behind them like Deborah Messing.

Oh, yeah.

Who was, I don't know if she was on Will and Grace, Pat.

And Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done.

right that's fascinating that guy that got elected to to the white house yeah like that guy

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Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's going to tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

Since we were just talking about our wonderful president,

I thought we'd share a little something from the past from Joe Biden.

This is kind of interesting because something was said more recently along these lines, and the person who said it was vilified, demonized.

They still

bring it up, and it happened, I don't know, three or four years ago, four years ago, maybe five.

Joe Biden, back in 1993,

talking about Confederate flag waivers,

and here's what he had to say about them.

The senator made a very moving and eloquent speech as a son of the Confederacy,

acknowledging that it was was time to change and yield to a position that Senator Carol Mosley Braun

raised on the floor of the Senate,

not granting a federal charter

to an

organization made up of many fine people

who

continue to display

the Confederate flag.

Oh my.

Wait, oh my.

Many fine people?

I've heard that display the Confederate flag.

Where have I heard that before?

I can't.

Somebody else said that.

I don't know what that exactly is.

Many fine people.

Almost exactly the same phrase.

Wow.

Somebody just unearthed that and it started, you know, circulating on the internet.

And appreciate whoever it was that sent that to us because that's incredible.

That is really incredible.

Okay, wait.

You said the exact same thing 30 years ago, and now it's the worst thing you can possibly say.

And, like, the same thing applies to Trump that applied to Biden at that time, which is, you know, like

the point was more broad than saying they're both, they're a fine white supremacist.

That's not what they're saying.

No, they're saying that, you know, some people use that flag for, I mean, look, the freaking Dukes of Hazard used the flag, right?

Yeah.

It was not seen

as a

right or wrong, was not seen as a white supremacist symbol its entire time.

It was seen as something as it became something of a southern heritage symbol.

And like that,

so a lot of the people that put it up, even though maybe they should have seen it another way, you could argue it, but they put it up because they just, you know, like the South.

That was it.

It wasn't some big, you know, they weren't glorifying slavery.

And I think that's what Biden is referring to here, right?

Like, he's referring to people who didn't use it that way.

No, I think he's an absolute racist.

Right.

Which is how.

He's you're talking about white supremacy right there.

Exactly.

And this is because that's how they deal with it.

That's how they said it, but that's what they did with Trump.

They acted as if they didn't understand.

There's this idea of plausible deniability.

Not is this actually what happened, but can I come up with a scenario that will allow me to convincingly argue that I think that's what he meant?

You know, that's what's happening right now with the January 6th stuff.

It's like,

well,

Donald Trump said he wanted people let into the area around his speech,

even though they were armed.

And his,

what he said, this is the accusation from the testimony in the January 6th thing, which I know you weren't listening to, so let me recount it quickly.

She said,

Cassie Hutchinson said, hey,

the word I got was that he said he wanted people let in that were armed.

And his answer was, well,

these are my people.

They're not going to harm me.

Now he's thinking about they're armed, but they're not going to hurt anybody.

So what?

Hey, security, relax.

These are my people.

They're not coming after me.

I think everybody that hears him in the context of that moment with that phrasing understands what really occurred there.

That that is what he's saying, if it happened at all.

That he's saying, look.

These are my people.

I'm not worried about you letting them in.

I know you're trying to protect me, but I'm not worried about that.

Just because they have guns does not make them dangerous.

I'm a guy who believes in the Second Amendment.

Everybody understands.

Everybody.

I think everybody on the left understands that's what Donald Trump meant with that.

What they are saying publicly is

he didn't care about anyone else.

He didn't mind people with guns being around because they were going to go kill Mike Pence and

people in Congress, not him.

So he didn't care about them.

He wanted to lead them down.

He wanted them to be armed because he knew they were going to target those other bad people that were trying to steal the election from him.

Which is bullcrap, and they know it.

Everybody knows that's not what he was saying there.

Everyone.

But they have plausible deniability because they've been able to come up with this ridiculous justification of another way he could have been thinking in that moment.

And then they all act as if they actually believe that's what he meant.

And it's the same thing here.

You know, over and over again, the same thing is applied.

The good people on both sides, our fine people on both sides, was an example of that.

They knew

right after that in the speech, he said, I'm not talking about the white supremacists.

So they knew he wasn't referring to that.

Right.

But they acted as if he was.

And then a bunch of dumb people down the line don't look into it and think that's what really happened.

I mean, that is a, it's a real problem.

And it's been, I would say, it was always around before Donald Trump, but it was really brought out from the media.

when they tried to deal with Donald Trump.

It set off this thing where they said, well, we don't have to try anymore.

We don't have to act like we're trying.

We don't have to look like we're trying to do journalism anymore.

This is too important.

There's something going on here.

This guy's too bad.

He's a different creature.

We have to treat him differently.

Stop acting like we're journalists.

Just go for it.

And that has set that.

That's really what they've done.

Yeah.

Set off a really bad series of events.

I think

it's really damaged.

our institutions.

Oh, look, Trump has, you know, has had problems with his institutions as well.

It doesn't always care about them.

There's no question about

this has gone on.

This is not just the media doing it.

It's everybody doing it at the same time.

But the media seems to lead it because they're the ones that are supposed to be the responsible party here.

We all know politicians act on their own behalf.

They act in their own best interest.

We know that about politicians.

The media is supposed to be the ones coming out and saying, hey, this is what's true and this is what is not true.

They're trying to help us dissect when politicians make claims, which ones are true and which ones aren't.

And they've given up that responsibility.

They've ceded it completely.

Yeah.

I mean, it's good for our business, I guess, because then there's someone else to call it out and say, hey, this is true and this isn't.

But man, it's not, I don't think it's good for society overall.

No, that's

just one of the things that I guess we've accepted along the way is the media has just

flipped to a biased organization as a whole.

And

that's just the way it's going to be now.

Just like the Democrats have flipped on certain things,

like when it comes to

the pandemic, they've completely flipped on Big Pharma.

Big Pharma used to be the big boogeyman.

They were terrible people.

They were overcharging the elderly.

They were responsible for driving people into poverty just because they wanted to be healthy.

All of a sudden now, they're heroes.

Big Pharma is, it doesn't get any better.

So for Democrats.

Weird.

I mean, so weird.

I've done the show for 20 years plus now.

You've done, you know, radio for even longer.

The entire time I've done it, the Democrats hated big pharmaceutical companies, hated them.

Absolutely.

Made documentaries about how evil they were.

Every movie that came out was about how a pharmaceutical company was screwing people over.

Yes.

They literally hated all of them all the time.

And then all of a sudden, they love them all the time.

Yeah.

And honestly, the same thing, the opposite has happened on the other side, where I don't know that Republicans ever loved pharmaceutical companies, but they certainly were more defending them.

I think they understood that, yes, they charge a lot of money

for their product.

But they do a lot of great products.

But they do research and development, and almost all of that is done here in the United States by the pharmaceuticals in America.

And so, yeah, the price is a little higher.

Basically, every major development in modern medicine has come from the United States and many of these companies.

That doesn't mean they're angels.

It doesn't mean they're perfect.

No.

They have done plenty of stuff that they've gotten in trouble for.

They've literally, you know,

they've gone through trials and done things that are wrong and put out medications that at some point have hurt people.

And all that stuff's true, but they've also done a lot of really good things.

Yeah.

And I think I'm pretty sure, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the correct attitude toward them is to look at them and watch them on their merits, not to love them or to hate them, but just to say, okay, look, these guys are doing a good job with this right now.

These guys are doing a bad job with this right now.

That's kind of the sensible way.

It doesn't, it seems like the left just seems to be absolutely despising them for 40 years and then absolutely loving them and treating them like they're God.

A wholehearted embrace now.

It's so weird.

Did you ever think you'd see that day?

No.

No, absolutely not.

It's so strange.

I don't, I don't.

And what's even more interesting is that it was, it was Trump who was working with all of these companies to bring about this vaccine.

He seemed to have forgotten that little aspect.

Yeah, like they ignored everything about him.

Yeah.

Except this, but then they don't even give him credit for that.

Nope.

They act as if he had nothing to do with it.

I just will never understand it.

I was doing a podcast the other day, and they were like, well, what do you think some of this, how did politics, you know,

what were the things that you noticed about politics that were strange during the pandemic?

And like, I can't come up with a better example of that than that.

There's just, it's the straight, forget the reality of it.

What's true and what isn't for a second?

It's the strangest thing I've ever witnessed in politics.

Like,

the left absolutely despised everything Donald Trump touched

since he came into public view.

And

they told everyone in the country to not take the vaccine because

Donald Trump helped it.

He was going to force a vaccine through without the proper safety testing.

Andrew Cuomo formed a separate council to double-check Donald Trump's work because they were so scared it was going to be a scam.

And then Joe Biden won the election, and all of the sudden, it was the best thing that had ever existed.

And it was perfect.

And on the other side, all of Trump's supporters, and not all, but many of Trump's supporters who stood with Trump as he campaigned on vaccine development can't stand the vaccine and never want to hear about it again.

Even as Donald Trump sits back and is like, I think it was this great thing that I accomplished.

And they're like, shut up.

This guy they love, they don't want to hear word one about it.

I don't care what is true and what isn't.

It is the strangest and fastest

change in a a political major political side?

Completely completely switched to the opposite side.

Yeah, it's really legitimately fascinating to watch that happen.

And I, I, you know,

that will be one if, if, that will go down in just this in a, in a political science study for the ages.

No question.

Because you realize that people like Kamala Harris were telling you this was like poison as of like October 2020.

And by January, she was getting the jab.

Everything was fine.

Everything was fine.

It's the best thing ever.

And this is going to protect you.

You won't get the virus if you get this.

In fact, you're going to lose your job.

Right.

Are you a first responder who dedicated your life to solving this crisis?

You're out.

You're out of the streets.

In fairness to Trump supporters who flipped on this as well, it was partially the mandate that made them flip.

Yes.

You know, it's being told that we must or else

I don't want to.

And that's very true.

Look, there is, and everybody has their, their, you know, there's, it's, it's not pure, right?

Like, you know, a lot of people who are big Trump supporters got vaccinated.

I mean, you know, I mean, look, Trump did very well with elderly, yeah, with elderly supporters.

And, you know, you're at 90 some odd percent.

So we know that a lot of people who are big Trump supporters did get vaccinated.

But I think, and this is why I think your point is so valid here, Pat, is that so much of the attitude and language and approach of the Biden administration infuriated people who were very open to getting the vaccine?

Yeah, I was open to it in the beginning.

Yeah.

And it's like...

And then wound up not getting it.

Because people were just like, get out of my face.

What are you talking about?

It was a violation of their personal liberty.

And it felt like giving in to a terrible government

program rather than just like, okay, this, you know, this medicine works or it doesn't.

Yeah.

Which is how you're supposed to, this is how medicine's supposed to be.

You know, you're supposed to make medical decisions based on whether you think it's good or not, not how the government is forcing you into it and threatening you to be fined or be thrown out on the streets from your job.

Yeah.

That really hurt.

Really hurt.

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We were just talking about the weird thing with Democrats and Big Pharma now.

Well, Pfizer has just signed a new $3.2 billion COVID vaccine deal with the U.S.

government.

So

they've got a a new vaccine for the new Omicron variant.

Yeah.

And apparently it's been adapted to that.

It's fascinating that the vaccine they keep telling people to take now is

sort of ancient, right?

Like it was created two and a half years ago.

Like we've went through a million variants.

It is a

strange part of this.

And separate from Pat, the vaccine of whether you want to take it or not, at some point, does this go back to a normal health care item?

Like at some point, is the government not paying?

Like we all have either health insurance or Obamacare, which solved all of our healthcare problems.

Oh, right.

So at some point, does this go back to like,

if you want the vaccine, you put it on your insurance?

Like, at some point, does that happen again?

Or are we just now, I think it might, they just go into, we're just auto into they pay for every piece of care?

Like, did this just happen?

Sure.

Like, in front of our eyes here?

Yeah.

I think it goes back to normal because eventually we're going to treat this as part of normal life.

I mean, I think that we're there.

We're probably there.

This is why I'm questioning Texas.

Right?

Like, why are we spending billions and billions more from the government to these companies?

If you want it, get it.

But, you know, you're responsible for your health care, right?

That's how everything else is.

This is the Glenn Back program.

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Because they are suffering right now.

They're not making a dollar.

Well, except for the fact that Russian oil exports are higher now than they were before the invasion of Ukraine.

Other than that,

it's going really well.

Russian crude oil exports by countries and regions,

they've exported less to Europe, but

unfortunately, India and China have made up the difference, and then some.

So they're actually exporting more

thanks to India and China.

So they are

lowering the price, obviously, to get these.

They've lowered the price.

The money isn't necessarily as good as it was before.

And if prices come down, they could be in some trouble.

But this is also, we should point out, not just

fueling the Russian war effort and keeping their society afloat, but also really helping China because they're buying tons of oil at a discounted price.

They're running their economy on discounted oil,

which we can't buy and then Europe can't buy.

So China has a not only do they get the benefit of not being the target of our ire right now because Russia is, they also get the benefit of this incredibly important part of their economy coming at a heavy discount.

Nice.

So it's working really well for us.

It worked out well for China.

For China, I'm sorry.

Yes.

That's right.

It really is a fact.

Not so much for us.

And now Russia has taken 20% of Ukraine.

So they now control 20% of Ukraine.

Now, again, look, do you want to control a bunch of stone buildings that have collapsed?

Which is essentially what they now control.

They control rubble.

They control a bunch of rubble.

They've destroyed.

And look, this is terrible everywhere.

Every part of this is bad for everyone.

So there's not anything to celebrate here with the exception of China that seems to actually be doing pretty well.

I guess India as well, who used to really be an ally.

I mean, maybe our biggest hope in the developing world.

Here's a country that

has essentially embraced capitalism at some level.

They're kind of what we wanted China to become, right?

This huge, huge company or a country with massive production possibilities, with a huge base of consumers

that actually almost as many as China now.

Yeah.

And actually incredible.

Yeah, it really is.

People always think of China as the biggest by far, but really

1.4 billion to 1.3 billion, I think.

Very close between the two of them.

And here's a country that had leadership that loved us.

I mean, go back and watch the footage of Trump visiting, and I think it was 2019.

They loved the guy.

They loved Donald Trump.

They loved the guy.

I mean, he got along really well with their leadership there.

And they were a real hope for the future.

And honestly,

ever since Biden's been in office, I can't believe they don't love Biden, a guy who said this about their people.

The largest growth in population is Indian Americans moving from India.

You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.

I'm not joking.

What's not to love?

He's not joking about that.

There really are a lot of Indian people, people from India, working at 7-Elevens in Delaware.

Has there ever been a stereotype about that by any chance?

I mean, it's not.

Did they throw poor Apu out of The Simpsons?

Yeah, they were.

Because he was the successful small businessman, and that was a negative stereotype of Indians.

That's what we're supposed to be told.

Idiotic people.

His country is so stupid sometimes.

And

I hate to go down that road, but it's so true.

You're banning Simpson's characters.

Right.

Because why?

Because Apu, what was Apu in the show?

He was one of the most responsible, intelligent people on the show.

He ran a small business, well, that lasted for multiple decades.

And they threw him off the show because he had an Indian accent.

Yet Joe Biden could get elected in the same year that occurred as president of the United States.

That makes a lot lot of incredible guys.

That makes a lot of sense.

Really is incredible.

We were talking a few minutes ago about the big pharma situation that also doesn't make any sense with Democrats loving big pharma now and how well Pfizer and Moderna are doing in this country.

And Pfizer is doing

even better because they just signed a $3.2 billion deal with the U.S.

government for 105 million new doses of the new COVID-19 vaccine that's retooled retooled to fight Omicron.

So they adapted it for Omicron.

They also adapted it for

Delta.

But they didn't do it in time, right?

By the time they did it in time, the government didn't approve it in time.

So by the time they were going to approve it, it was already kind of gone.

Yeah, and it was fading.

If I remember, this is going back a few months here, but the part of the analysis was it helped, but it didn't help so much that it was worth going through the process of getting it approved and getting it produced, which again is a problem, right?

Like you might not want to take the vaccine, whatever.

Whether you want to or not,

it would be sensible if the government wasn't getting in the way of this.

It would also be sensible if the government wasn't forcing it on you.

Right.

Like, that's the nice sweet point.

The company makes the stuff, and you decide whether you want to take it.

Wait, that's a concept.

I know.

I have the choice.

Yeah.

The freedom to choose.

It's a similar concept to the

choice?

Yes, kind of like that.

Okay.

It's a similar concept to the Taco Bell toasted cheddar chalupa, which Taco Bell just made, and then you decide whether you want it or not.

We didn't get the government, it wasn't like, wait a minute, first of all, we're going to come to every Taco Bell and force people to buy it.

Or they didn't come and say, you're not allowed to put a chaloopa on the menu.

They didn't do any of those things.

It's just there, and you go through the drive-through and buy it if you want.

That's how I thought.

this country was supposed to operate but apparently apparently not and i i really i don't know

at this point, like at some

cancer, you know, I think there's a story today out, I think Axios has it, that COVID was the number three cause of death in the United States in 2020 and 2021 behind heart disease and cancer, which is kind of like where it looked like it was going to settle.

And it did

right there for those two years.

And

as far as I understand, And I thankfully at this particular moment, I'm not afflicted with either of these ailments, heart disease or or cancer.

I know, Pat, you had a cancer situation at one point.

Did the government pay for all the drugs that you used?

Did they pay for all the treatments?

Did they step in?

They paid for none of them.

Exactly none of it.

Exactly none?

Exactly none.

Not approximately.

It was exactly none of it.

Now, I can understand, and maybe this is controversial, but I can understand that

in March 2020, Operation Warp Speed, where they're getting in, they're funding these things to try to get the solution as fast as possible because we have nothing to fight a brand new novel virus, right?

The government stepping in for that is not a crazy function of government to me.

And that's pretty much as a guy who wants the government to do nothing.

I want them to do defense and, you know, every once in a while decide some court cases.

Like, that's basically all I want them to do at the federal level.

And like, this is the type of thing where, like, I think there's room for the government to be involved in clearing out all of the nonsense, right?

Clearing out all of the layers of bureaucracy.

Everyone turned into a libertarian there for a while when they were like, oh my God,

just clear out all this crap.

Stop the 12-week delays before looking at this stuff.

Get it done, right?

And I think our society operates pretty well when we look at things that way.

So you can even understand.

the early funding of these types of treatments, all of the treatments, not just the vaccine, but all the other stuff that, you know, monoclonal antibodies, you know, like a lot of different things things came out and were helpful at different periods during the pandemic.

But at some point, we've settled into a situation where now it is just part of our lives.

Everyone understands that you may get COVID one day.

You may get sick.

You may miss some work.

Most people will be totally fine afterward.

Some people will have longer-term consequences that are damaging.

Some people will die, sadly.

Some people will go to the hospital.

We all understand the risk groups.

We've all kind of come through two and a half years of this where we've gained a quite quite a bit of knowledge here.

And at some point, does this transfer back to a normal health problem, which you have insurance for?

Like, that's how you deal with cancer.

That's how you deal with heart disease.

That's how you deal with all of these other ailments.

And for some reason, we're still paying billions of dollars from the government for this.

I don't think there's going to be a problem with demand.

over the vaccine from Pfizer.

Now, Pfizer makes plenty of money.

They make the little blue pill.

They don't necessarily, we do not need to feel bad for Pfizer.

Okay.

I don't think that's a, even if you're on the left and all of a sudden you suddenly love Pfizer and they're your heroes, they do okay.

They did okay before the vaccine.

Pfizer makes plenty of money.

In a moment where you're talking about, hey, can you guys spend a quick billion dollars to develop a vaccine that you have no idea whether it's going to work?

Okay, in the middle of a pandemic, you could make the argument that's a time for some government funding.

Now,

like, even if you eliminate half the country who is more skeptical of the vaccine at this point, you know, say the right, none of them on the right are going to take it.

Nobody on the right is going to take it.

Only the left is going to take it.

Pfizer can still make plenty of money off their vaccine.

They're not going to, they're not going to struggle.

Everyone on the left is apparently like they're wearing like concert t-shirts for Pfizer at this point.

Yeah.

You know, they've become fanboys.

They're like bronies for Pfizer.

So at this point.

Well, they're involved in the they're involved in the

copyright.

Not the copyright, but the

I've drawn a complete blank to what it's called, but they.

Aren't they part of the patent?

It's a patent.

Yeah.

There's some conflicting information on that.

Yeah.

Glenn went down this road for a while, and I can't remember how he, because he did a special on this at one point, and there's some stuff that makes you that he that leaned one way, and then there was pushback on it.

I don't remember how it turned out, honestly.

But I mean, look, the bottom line is that Pfizer is going to get their money, whether it comes from the government or from insurance companies.

Yeah, everybody's going to make their money.

Yeah, everyone's going to make their money.

Like, and you could say, oh, I don't think that's good, and that's fine.

But like, if government stops paying Pfizer for this vaccine, people will still get it.

They can just, it's no longer a question of whether it's going, you know, whether people are going to want to buy it or whether it's, we're way past that.

It's, it's like, none of this stuff makes sense.

The reason why Operation Warp Speed made some sense at the time is is they tried a ton of different things.

Some of them, by the way, completely failed.

Like, that was the point of the government.

The only thing that, this is what I always say, the only thing that government actually can do well better than, not better, but like when they're useful.

The only time government is useful is when you don't care about inefficiency.

Like, and a good example of this is the military, right?

The military might try to develop 50 different weapons and 49 of them might not work.

And that is an acceptable thing for most people in America because we realize that getting that one that does is worth the 49 that don't, right?

We are okay with that because we want our defense to be good.

The problem there is not one of profit or loss.

The idea there is to say we need it no matter what the cost.

We need the best weapons to defend against a foreign attack.

We need to have a nuclear deterrent, right?

There's no profitability argument for a nuclear weapon.

You're doing that in a way that you know is going to be efficient.

Holding a standing army is incredibly inefficient, right?

Most of the time, our soldiers don't do anything related to war.

And it's an incredibly inefficient expenditure for our government.

But we know they need to be ready in case we need them.

The same thing here.

You throw it out.

Like normally, you wouldn't want to try to develop 20 different vaccines knowing that 18 of them wouldn't work right.

You wouldn't do that.

That wouldn't make any sense for a company.

So, okay, maybe there's an argument, but we're past that.

We have multiple vaccines on the market that have been approved.

Can we move on with our lives?

Why are we still spending money on this?

Doesn't make any sense.

It's a good question.

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Yeah.

The government intervention, whether it's a positive or negative thing to the American people.

Yeah.

And so the question is specifically about your most important concern.

Whatever your most important concern is for your family, is the government helping or hurting that?

And you go back through history and you see, okay, there are times it's usually a little bit negative where like people you know and in when if the summer of 21 where covet cases are at an all-time low the vaccines have just rolled out that's a period where people were pretty excited about generally speaking what the government was doing for that particular problem which was the biggest concern of most of a lot of people at least at that time and so even then it was 34 said it was hurting the government was hurting their most important concern and 31 said they were helping 38 31 34 31 34 okay close really close close yeah that's changed a little bit as of december 2021 it was 46 saying it was hurting the federal government was hurting and only 25 said it was helping that's at the end of last year

a little update to that number new numbers out from monmouth on this question is the federal government impacting your most important family concern positively or negatively

positively

8

Negatively, 57%.

It's 57 to 8%.

Slightly underwater.

Minus 49.

There, Pat.

Wow.

They've gone from minus 7%.

And the rest are like, it's neutral or

government.

What?

What is that?

That's by far the lowest it's ever been.

The only time it's ever really been close to that was

back in the Obama administration.

It did drop as low as 14% in one poll.

But remember, Obama was president among two of the biggest wave elections we've had in a long time.

The 2010 election was the biggest wave election we've had in a century.

And that is what the opportunity

for Republicans is here.

They could have a historic election here.

Historic wave election we have.

Or they could completely blow it.

That's entirely possible as well.

All right, let's go to Sarah in Missouri.

Hey, Sarah, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stew.

Good morning.

Good morning, Pat and Stew.

Hey, how are you?

Good, good.

We're a sunshiny day here in Missouri.

We're loving the Pat and Stew Show.

Thanks.

What can we do for you?

Well, I was listening to you guys this morning, obviously, and I was just asking, thinking, you know, I wonder if the pharmaceuticals will ever be held accountable.

And like I say, they're making boatloads of money and when will it ever be turned back over to them and

do you think the mainstream media will ever hold them accountable so they'll have to

I don't know I guess speak the truth I very much doubt it they've actually appreciate the call thanks Sarah they've actually been protected by the federal government from any sort of

lawsuits They're immune to those now.

And this is something that the Republicans largely fought for because the Democrats wanted them to be able to be sued if things went wrong.

Again, remember, you have to reverse how people felt about these things back then.

Republicans were saying, you got to protect these guys so they can come up with this and not be terrified of lawsuits.

And it switched around.

And Democrats were saying, we're going to sue you, bastards, when Trump screws up this vaccine.

Right.

Now it's totally reversed, but that is, those protections were built in.

But Biden keeps saying the gun manufacturers are the only industry that's protected from lawsuits.

No, no.

No,

it's not not really true with the gun industry, but

it's not.

That is, there are lots of protections for those types of industries in those circumstances.

They're limited circumstances, though, typically.

So it depends.

Like, if there's something really egregious, they can still get hit with some of the stuff.

It's just that we have to prove it.

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Yeah, what day does that happen?

What happened on that day?

Well, that was the day the Supreme Court decision came out on Roe versus Wade.

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It's not.

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The day democracy almost died.

Yeah, this is.

The day democracy almost died.

Well, this is the day it was restored, apparently, because no longer does the Supreme Court make your laws for you.

You are now able to influence your laws at the state level.

I seriously believe this to be the best Supreme Court decision of my lifetime.

Yeah, I can't argue with that.

I mean, maybe you could argue and say they should have gone as far as Clarence Thomas did.

in the actual opinion.

Just not even from a basis of what he was talking about overturning, but just the legal aspects of that, I think, are more sound.

But still, especially

I never expected this.

And I know you didn't either because we've talked about this before many times.

It's not going to happen.

No.

And all of these people that are whining and crying about Roe v.

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It's not going to happen.

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And the thing is,

Stu and I were

skeptical about the Supreme Court because we completely lost faith in the Supreme Court.

At least I had.

Pretty much lost faith in the Supreme Court, even though everybody said, oh, this is the most conservative Supreme Court in the history of the planet.

And I didn't really buy into that because they hadn't, up until this point, up until this session, really, really, they hadn't made rulings that warranted believing that, that these guys were really

and women were really conservative enough to overturn Roe v.

Wade, to do something like that.

The big difference there is Amy Coney Barrett, right?

This does, people, you know,

it was a 6-3 decision in the Supreme Court for this ruling.

However,

John Roberts really wasn't on board with it.

He was on board with what I expected to be the best case scenario.

Which was ruling.

it was a narrow ruling that said okay 15 weeks are is a go which would have been an improvement look i would yeah

take me take take me back five ten years i would have loved to get that that would have been credible just to allow states to limit it to 15 weeks which is something the overwhelming majority of americans support by the way as uh there was just a poll that came out today

from Harris and Harvard.

I'm just appearing how the American people support Roe v.

Wade.

Well, kind of.

Yeah, that's not, yeah, not really.

First First trimester abortion.

By name, they support it.

Yeah.

They don't know what it is,

frankly.

72% of the country would support Mississippi's abortion ban at the center of the Dobbs case, which was 15 weeks.

72%.

Who's in the mainstream here?

Remember, up until a few weeks ago, the mainstream Republican position, what they were pushing for legislatively was a 20-week ban, not 15, but 20.

Mississippi went farther.

I talked to the woman who wrote the bill.

She went that far.

She went to 15 weeks because she,

and it was a woman, by the way, also a maternity nurse who wrote the bill.

But she wrote the bill and she did it because she once had to deliver a baby at 15 weeks and the baby struggled to survive and she always remembered that child.

And so she went for 15 weeks

because she wanted to give these babies a chance.

And so that was what they went for.

Obviously, it wound up being an overturn of Roe versus Wade.

But even the Republican legislative position was a 20-week ban in most states.

And

that is a more restrictive ban is supported by 72% of the country right now.

Right now.

Another couple of fascinating things.

Women more pro-life than men in the poll.

And only 25% agreed that the Supreme Court, as opposed to state or federal lawmakers, should set the standards on abortion.

And what's fascinating about that is it shows that people don't know what Roe versus Wade is.

Roe versus Wade is the Supreme Court making the rules instead of state and federal legislators.

They just took the process of lawmaking out and said, no, this doesn't count because it's a constitutional right.

Now, the overturning of Roe versus Wade means that federal and state legislators can argue this out

for the first time in a long time, Pat.

Yeah, they gave up their power.

This never happens, that they gave up their power and gave it back to the states.

That's an amazing thing.

And one of the weaknesses of conservatism, honestly,

as a movement, because you're depending on people getting into power and then trying to limit their own power, and almost none of them ever do it.

And here we have a Supreme Court that did.

They said, you know what?

We don't want this power.

This isn't ours.

We don't want it anymore.

Well, stop saying it's ours.

It's not.

And honestly, the biggest difference there is Amy Coney Barrett, who comes in and is that fifth vote to actually have a spine.

And one of the reasons why, Pat, we never thought we'd see this happen is because we knew we couldn't depend on John Roberts, and we were right on that.

We actually couldn't.

In the biggest moment, he failed.

It was 5-4 without him.

Yeah.

Essentially.

Roe v.

Wade, he was not in support of overturning it.

No, he said he only basically wanted the 15-week ban and a limited scope.

Now, Kavanaugh also had a concurring opinion.

So he voted the right way, but wrote a concurring opinion that sort of indicated he wasn't really willing to go this far on other things and was like, this is, I'm limiting this decision to X, Y, and Z.

And he was the other guy we were worried about.

And so he almost, I mean,

this was a close call, boys and girls.

This was a close one.

Yeah.

But he was able to at least vote the right way.

And thank God for it.

I mean, it's all this allows us to do is to make our argument.

Now, our argument can be heard and not dismissed.

It doesn't mean we win the argument.

It just allows us to make it with some effect of potential legislation at some point in some of these states.

And that's the way, I mean, I don't think that's the way this should end up.

I think it should be illegal.

And already in some of these states,

the states have been blocked from the abortion bans.

Texas was, I believe, banned.

They blocked it.

They did go through with it.

For now.

They then did go through with it.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because they were trying to ban it.

that did not,

because it was an I think the Texas situation, there's a bunch of different situations, so forgive me if I'm getting these confused, but I think it was Texas that had an older law that was so old that came back into effect.

This happened in Wisconsin and Michigan as well, where

they had laws passed from way before Roe.

It was illegal when Roe happened, and then they never bothered to change the law, even though those two states would probably allow abortion.

They never changed the law through all the Roe period, thinking, oh, well, this is going to be like this forever.

Obviously, now it's not.

So, those old laws from some of them from the 1800s take effect and go back into effect.

So, Wisconsin and Michigan are having that issue now.

Texas, of course, wanted that law to go back into effect.

The activists tried to block it and were unsuccessful.

Was it Utah that was also blocked?

I think Utah was blocked as well.

Yeah.

Florida is being challenged.

It's really amazing, too, to see these judges who are clearly just

acting on the basis of they want abortion.

There's no legal basis at this point.

After the Supreme Court makes this decision, there's no legal basis for them to say you can't have a 15-week abortion ban in Florida.

Right.

There's really, I mean, that was a 6-3 on that one.

And still,

they're trying to block it.

This one they're trying to do through the state Supreme Court, and they're trying to say, well, they voted in a privacy

clause and the state constitution.

So Florida may have some finagling they need to do to alter, and some of these other states as well, to alter their state constitutions if

these liberal activists are successful in challenging them.

But generally speaking, you're going to see a lot of states restrict abortion, and you'll see a lot of them go to 15 weeks, too.

I think people are forgetting it's not going to be ban or abortion Disneyland.

There's that position kind of in between where you have,

you know.

But abortion Disneyland is kind of where we were.

That's where we were.

You could pretty much, and the Democrats insisted that there not be any restraint on it at all.

It's just abortion on demand for whatever reason you want, anytime you want.

Yeah.

And that's right up to birth.

D.C.

had legal at any point in women's pregnancy.

Virginia was up to the 25th week.

South Carolina was the 20th week.

Iowa the 22nd week.

Washington State, legal at any time.

New Jersey, anytime.

Legal at any time during the pregnancy.

New Mexico.

Fully formed infants can be aborted.

Legal at any time.

New Mexico.

Colorado, legal at any time.

Vermont, legal at any time.

Alaska, legal at any time.

New Hampshire was the 24th week.

I have a selection of these laws that we just happened to go through, but like you go through this and you say all of those laws are for.

How many states do you recall, just offhand, is it just those?

I mean, I think I pull, let's see, one, two, three,

four,

five, six.

I have seven here that were at any time.

Of course, it could be more than that.

Time.

I think California is at any time.

Yeah, California was.

Didn't they go for like a week after?

That was one of the

potential outcomes of a new piece of regulation.

Yes.

They are saying that's not true, but there are a lot of critics saying, actually, it kind of is legally allowed.

Let's see this one go through the courts, which is a real problem.

Incredible.

You're going to kill your baby after a week, a week after it's been born.

I feel like there was a point where we united on you can't kill people after they're born.

There was a point where we were like on the same side of that.

Yeah, wasn't there?

I mean, that seems like ancient ancient history now and so provincial.

Yeah.

Oh, you can't kill a baby after a week after they're born?

What kind of Puritan are you?

I mean, we've been arguing that you should be able to abort Jeffy in the 200th trimester.

Yes.

Up to maybe the 500th trimester.

But that's just one person.

Yeah,

that only applies to Jeffy.

We'll have to test that in the Supreme Court.

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You know what?

This just seems to me like an excuse to drink beer on the air.

Some people have said, are you just trying to drink at work?

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This is an experiment.

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Very offended.

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In fact, so offended, I won't even give you a reason why it's not just drinking at work because I'm so disappointed

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Qualify it with an excuse.

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Did I hear something about a complaint we got from a show we did last week?

I'm glad you pointed that out.

Yeah.

Because I wanted to call you out on this.

I was upset personally.

Were you?

And I'm glad I was not the only one.

We got an angry letter from a listener

who was very concerned

that

you, Pat Gray,

were mocking Native Americans last week.

Oh, I would never.

On this program.

Never.

Now, when I got this letter, I said to myself, When did we do that?

We were not, I don't ever remember mocking Native Americans.

We wouldn't knock.

What are you talking about?

They're like, You were making all these jokes that were offensive, and they were about Native Americans.

And I was thinking, I was just going through my

archives in my head of like, wait, did we do something?

Did we say something?

Did I screw something up?

Like, what, what happened?

And I finally traced it back.

Oh, boy.

Which was to Indian Reservation by Paula Revere and the Raiders.

Yes, I guess, understandably, by the way, one of our listeners did not know know you were reciting song lyrics, a real song.

Oh, wow.

So they would have really taken offense to the

bow and arrow, the

took away our native tongue, taught their English to our young.

Yes.

Yeah.

The beads we made by hand.

And all the beads we made by hand are nowadays made.

Made in Japan.

Japan.

And then you always add in.

Or more,

like, more nowadays, China.

And so they didn't, they were not familiar with Paul Revere and the Raiders.

This is a thing that Pat has done on the air for like a hundred years, as long as I've known you, literally as long as I've known you.

Yeah.

Where you quote this as if it's like factual and just because to kind of mock the absurdity of the song.

Right.

And it's even more absurd now because none of that song could not be released today.

Oh, no way.

Especially not from authentic Native Americans, which they weren't.

I mean, it's from 1970, so it's 50 years old.

It is 50 years old now.

But yes, Pat is not actually part of the Cherokee tribe in case

there is anyone else like Elizabeth Ward who might be confused over this.

That is not the case and does not actually have those lived experiences.

All right.

We will see you again tomorrow.

Filling in for Glenn once again.

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