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Well, Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago,

so profound and such a peacemaker.

I've noticed that too.

Yeah.

And attractive.

Physically beautiful.

Yeah.

And you really feel that way because you've brought it up several times.

Have I now?

Yeah.

Because I, you know, it's the first thing that hits my brain when I'm

okay.

And sometimes I just blurt it out.

I hadn't realized that I had already said it.

So I apologize for that.

No, that's all right.

I mean, you feel strongly, obviously.

You feel strongly about it.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a bit redundant, you know, because I just keep saying it.

But I want people to understand it's difficult to consider the

regime,

the administration of Lori Lightfoot without

factoring in that, you know, people notice right away how pretty she is.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, if I didn't know better,

if I didn't realize that you're happily married,

I might think that you got kind of a thing for her.

I'm a bit concerned that my wife might be listening

because, you know,

look, it's difficult.

I'm a guy.

You know, I'm just a straight out all-American male.

Right.

And, you know, know, you see someone like Lori Lightfoot and you're a camp male, right?

You're cis.

I am.

Yeah, I am cis male.

Now, I was not born a cis male, of course.

Had a transitioned, actually.

I transitioned in 1989.

Did you?

But then I transitioned back in 1999.

Now, it was not, I'm not saying I rejected my initial transition because that would be that that's when people do that, and even if you cover it in the news, you're called a hater and you get thrown out of the media.

Yeah.

So I just

transitioned twice and just happened to end up in the same spot, which is just happenstance.

You just thought you tried out for a decade or so and then you went.

You know what?

No, Pat.

No.

I was born that way.

I was born a person.

That's what I forgot.

Transitioned once and then transitioned back

individually,

not retracing my steps.

I just decided to...

because of the way I was born, to transition back and then...

Because of the way you were born.

And mainly, I will say a good chunk of the reason I transitioned back was Lori Lightfoot.

Oh, wow.

You know, just so attractive.

Wow, even back.

In 1999.

Oh, you think she's good looking now.

Imagine her back in 1999.

I can't.

I can't imagine it.

Oh, I can't.

I can't either.

Nor do I necessarily want to.

But anyway, you were talking about the very attractive mayor of Chicago.

And her peacemaking ability right now.

She talked about how toxic our discourse is right now.

Here's what she had to say yesterday.

And then we'll show you an example of what she's talking about from last week.

The toxicity in our public discourse is a thing that I think we should all be concerned about.

And it's ironic, obviously, that we're having this conversation

that happened on Independence Day.

We're not like a lot of other countries where

independence, their version of Independence Day, is marked with

troops and tanks.

And what we do in the United States is we come together as a community.

Here's her coming together last week.

He said, Thank you,

Clarence Thomas.

F you, Clarence Thomas.

So that's

ironic, I think, is the word she used.

Yeah, that's a good word.

It really is.

That's a good word.

Ironic.

And I might throw in

hypocritical.

Really?

Yeah, I might throw in.

In In what way, Pat?

In the way that she's talking about the toxicity in our discourse after having been toxic in her discourse just last week.

But if she would have handled it a little bit differently and said, you know what?

Just last week, I was saying F you to Clarence Thomas.

And I've decided that's too toxic.

It'd be a little different.

It would be an interesting approach, wouldn't it?

Yeah.

You know, there is that.

There is something to that.

And politicians, whether they meant it or not, used to exploit moments like that.

They used to make a big deal out of it.

You know, when your side did something wrong, you call them out.

You know, I mean, not to bring up the example that's been brought up a million times, but that

sister soldier moment of the Clinton administration, where he kind of called out

people who were his own supporters.

And I think it earned him some level of respect at that time from people across the aisle who said, wait a minute, thanks for calling those idiots out.

And I think that there's something to that.

There used to be, you know, and especially when you're doing it yourself, you're calling out yourself for your own behavior.

You're right.

She makes a statement.

She says, look, the toxicity is a problem.

Now, look, there is, you know, I don't like

the state of our debate in this country.

And I'm a person who just told you, and to show you how much effort I made on this, I'm a conservative.

Lori Lightfoot's a Democrat.

And I've said nothing but how attractive she is the entire show.

That is an example of coming across the aisle and saying something positive about someone on the other side.

So I obviously lead the way.

Obviously.

Obviously.

Obviously.

But like, you know, and I'm a person who's, you know, sold Nancy Pelosi sucks pens.

Right.

Andrew Cuomo is awful.

Some may say that was.

Maybe some might say that.

And I don't necessarily love that that's how we do things here.

I don't think it's the greatest thing in the world.

I do constantly engage in it, but I don't necessarily think it's the greatest way to run a country.

But there is literally no evidence whatsoever that our political toxicity has anything to do with the shooting.

This person seems to be completely nuts.

He's got tattoos all over his face.

He has been talking about, fantasizing about and rapping about school shootings for God knows how long.

This does not seem to be one of these things where he's like, I just don't agree with the minimum wage policies of this country.

That doesn't seem to be an example of this at all.

The response every single time, especially from the left, about guns after every shooting strikes me as particularly toxic.

They tend to blame,

they put the blood on the hands of their political opponents.

That's pretty toxic, but I don't think that's what she's referring to here.

This is not an example of some person, at least as we know right now, and maybe we'll find this out.

There has been some rumors of some of his postings having some quote-unquote right-wing, and they

encompasses everything to the media.

When someone does something bad,

everything they post is quote-unquote right-wing.

So I don't know yet if this is accurate, but it doesn't seem to be politically motivated.

It seems to be random.

It seems to be a very troubled person doing some very troubling things.

It does not seem to be a politically motivated crime.

No, what does our toxicity have to do with that?

Nothing.

Nothing.

So it's just like these standard talking points that the very attractive Laurie Lightfoot is going to be trotting out after she just violated them on stage in front of tens of thousands of people last week.

And how is it that you don't at least acknowledge that?

Do you not remember what you did last week?

And she's done many times before.

As a matter of fact, she's contributed to the toxicity a lot.

I mean, when the pandemic was going on, she's telling everybody, hey,

stay in your house.

Don't go anywhere.

You can't go to gyms.

You can't get your hair done.

That day she goes out and gets her hair done.

And then when she's questioned about it, she's all pissed off.

Well, look, I care about my hygiene.

I know the rest of us don't.

I will say, you know, obviously, she cares about her.

Obviously, she cares about her hair.

She's very, very attractive.

She's not a good Pat.

This is a person who is highly

a specimen.

Should be a supermodel.

Well, yeah.

I mean, I would say she is.

She's a supermodel without even trying.

She just walks out every day on stage, auto supermodel.

She's on auto mode, Pat.

And look,

she needs to get her hair done.

She needs to get her hair done.

You know, she's not like us, Pat.

No, she's not like us.

She's not like us.

She's important.

Yeah.

We're just dumpy guys.

You know,

our hair gets cut.

It doesn't get cut.

When the pandemic happened, all of our, all of our, you know, all the haircutting places around here, all the salons and barber shops were closed.

And so I sat there for months and months and months without a haircut, like most people did in that period.

And, you know, unlike most people, we have to be on camera every day doing our shows, Studios America, Pat Gray Unleashed.

And did we look a little terrible at times?

Probably.

But you know what?

No one cared because no one goes to us for our looks.

They do go to Lori Lightfoot for her looks.

That's why.

Why do people move?

Do you know that for a fact?

Absolutely.

Why do people move to Chicago?

It's non-stop violence.

Why would you go?

Lori Lightfoot.

You go for Lori Lightfoot.

That's why you go there.

You move to Chicago specifically to view Lori Lightfoot and just hope you see her

because you could view her from afar.

But I mean, it's the same thing as watching the Super Bowl live or on television.

You want to be there in person.

You really do.

And Lori Lightfoot,

Lori Lightfoot's speech is the equivalent to the Super Bowl, in my mind.

And you saw this yesterday with her incredible points.

It's amazing that people like Lori Lightfoot are actually in charge of cities.

She has been a catastrophe, right?

Is there anybody who argues with this?

Anybody, any Democrat in Chicago that would argue with the fact that Lori Lightfoot has been a catastrophe?

Yeah.

This is not of someone who has his...

Now, look, her attractiveness aside, she's not been a good mayor.

No, she has not.

Look what's happened in Chicago while she has been the mayor of it.

I mean, they had the, what do they call it?

The

golden mile or the...

What is it called?

All those great shops on Michigan Avenue.

It's a great Chicago city.

It

when you're not getting shot.

And they were all vandalized and they were broken into on a regular basis for the whole summer of 2020.

And

then she's got the shootings that happen every single day.

And then every weekend, you've got in the dozens of people who've been killed, oftentimes, killed and wounded.

by gunfire.

Just normal course of behavior.

Over and over and over.

That's what's so stunning about it.

You know, it is

it's and it's so bizarre the way that the left approaches this.

You know, there is this constant churn of violence in these cities, who have been run by Democrats for decades and decades, and in some instances, a half century or more.

Honestly, most instances now.

And it just keeps churning and churning and churning.

No one seems to do anything about it.

No one seems to care about it.

The media doesn't seem to care about it.

And you have these three giant buckets of quote-unquote gun violence, which, you know, again, that's kind of a weird way to look at it.

You're seemingly blaming the tool used rather than the person using the tool, but let's go with it for a second here.

You have these gun violence, these giant buckets.

You have the gang violence that goes on,

generalized crime in these cities every single day, which is a huge chunk of the problem when you're talking about gun violence.

Then you have another huge chunk of the problem, which is suicide.

About

half the gun deaths in this country are suicide.

And you have these two huge things that the left doesn't really seem to want to do anything about.

They don't care about it.

They never talk about it.

And then you have this one tiny little fraction, which obviously doesn't matter if you were involved in one of these things.

I mean, some of the details coming out of this Highland Park shooting are just heartbreaking.

I mean, absolutely awful in every single way.

And if you're involved in something like that, obviously there's no way to make that pain feel any better.

But it's like, it is a, when you're talking about a nation, it is a very tiny fraction of what we're talking about when we're talking about gun violence or violence overall.

And just because the left believes this is the way to convince people that your guns should go away,

this is the one they go after all the time.

And, you know, because often, they're guns that are purchased legally much more often than the typical murder, right?

They go through the system,

they pass through all of these laws

and still are able to often get these guns.

Where, you know, the typical gun, we've talked about this before.

The DOJ did a study about state and federal prisoners, and they asked them, all the people who got caught for gun crimes, they said, hey, where'd you get your gun?

They did a survey of them.

They found that 1.3%

of them got it through a retail purchase.

1.3%.

So a lot of them were stealing them from friends,

stealing them from relative, from friends or relatives,

giving gifts from friends or relatives.

People just gave them the guns.

Sometimes they found them on other crime scenes.

Sometimes they were bought off the black market, all of these other ways, but none of them regulated.

None of them that any of these laws would actually touch.

None of them.

I mean, 1.3%.

So they're trying to micromanage the criminal behavior of 1.3% of people who are already criminals by punishing 99.9% of the regular people out there that buy guns and don't use them for the nefarious purposes.

It doesn't make any sense.

It wouldn't make sense in any other context.

But here we are because of people like Lori Lightfoot, the very attractive Lori Lightfoot, and other politicians throughout America who use these things for their own advantage.

Obviously, Pat, no one could make the statement that Lori Lightfoot made yesterday with a straight face if they actually meant it.

Right.

You just were on stage saying, F the Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas.

And the next day you're like, you know what, we need a civility.

Come on.

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Yet another poll

that bodes so well for our brain-dead president, Joe Biden.

He's really not doing well in these polls.

But, you know, here's the problem.

They just haven't communicated their message well enough yet to the American people.

If they could just communicate what they're trying to do to raise inflation, gas prices,

to allow free flow of illegals and drugs and terrorists across the U.S.

border.

If they could just communicate why they're doing all of these things, it would be so much better for them.

So you think putting Joe Biden out in front of the people more often for him to fall over on a bicycle in public issues.

That's exactly what needs to happen.

Yes, exactly.

Really?

For him to stumble and stammer and not be able to get his train of thought going and say the wrong numbers.

You notice this thing with numbers?

He cannot give a number correctly.

He can't do it.

It doesn't matter if it's written on a teleprompter in 80 font.

It doesn't matter.

He just can't give you a number.

I don't know what the deal is with that because he can get through some things some of the time, but he can never get through numbers.

If he has to say them, he's screwed.

Yeah, it's weird.

He can't do it.

There's like a mental block of some sort.

And I think the mental block is turned from a block into a giant wall

that is impenetrable.

Yeah.

Because he really can't do it.

Now, let me give you some actual numbers here.

Joe Biden, when he started in office, he was around mid-50s approval rating.

I think he was as high as like 59, wasn't he?

58 or 59.

Some polls.

The Monmouth poll, I think he peaked at 54.

Okay.

But he has constantly fallen from those levels.

And to give you a sense,

it's very

typical for a president to start their administration in somewhat of a honeymoon period.

You've heard that phrase before.

You get this sort of burst of everyone in America, generally speaking, the American people like the country.

They're willing to at least give a new president an attempt at success, right?

Like they're going to say, hey,

and I'm the same way.

Like, I

was very confident Joe Biden was going to be a terrible president.

Now, I don't know that I thought he was going to be this bad.

I thought he was just going to be terrible.

I can tell you, I did not think he would be this bad.

I knew he was going to be bad, but there's no way you could have ever predicted how bad he would be.

Yeah, I think that's true.

I mean,

I don't know.

I'm trying to think of what I expected to be different.

I didn't think the withdrawal from Afghanistan would be botched as badly as it was, for instance.

I didn't think inflation would be almost 10%

or the real number being close to 20%.

I didn't think gas prices would be $120 per barrel, which they're down from that now, but $120

a barrel.

Yeah, to use that, and the reason why, because you might say, how could you not think Biden was going to be this bad?

Here's my two-part answer to that.

One

is we went through the Obama administration, where you have a guy who I think arguably was more committed to the ideology than Joe Biden is, a guy with 60 votes in the Senate.

A filibuster-proof majority, who, of course, did spend lots of money and launched a bunch of new programs.

And we didn't see inflation like that at that time.

Right.

So like you think, okay, Biden has less support in Congress, is less convincing of a speaker.

You know, obviously everyone loved Obama back in the day on the left.

And so you'd think he'd get less done.

And

while he might be as bad as Obama, it might not be worse than that.

Secondarily, I would say, you know, as a guy who went through the Obama administration, who was in the Obama administration, Biden was obviously a guy who was far left, but never seemed as committed to that ideology as Obama was or many people around him.

Instead, what he has done is tried to run this as if AOC is president.

I mean, like, really, he has been, not only has he been a bad, incompetent president, which I largely would have predicted pretty easily, I think, he has been much farther left than even

the president he served under.

At least, I don't know if that's actually accurate.

At least he has governed that way.

And he's governed that way with razor-thin majorities.

You know, he's tried to pass $6 trillion of build-back better spending with 50 senators.

And then he talks about how frugal he's been.

They didn't get that done.

That's unbelievable.

And he tried to get 3.5 trillion done.

Then he tried to get 1.8 trillion done.

He's tried over and over and over.

He spent 1.9 trillion on COVID nonsense that we did not need at that time.

He then got the Republicans to come along for another $1.1 trillion of infrastructure spending that we did not need.

And he's gone through all of this and he's been...

While the general direction of incompetence, I think, was predictable with someone like Joe Biden, who has never really succeeded at anything in his entire life.

I mean, the guy's been a complete failure at everything he's attempted in his entire life.

So this is what you get when you select someone like that.

But like, he has been

much, much more incompetent than I could have imagined.

I mean, I honestly believe if you picked a random stranger off the street and put him in office, he could not be worse than Joe Biden is.

And that's, you know, I mean, a lot of this might just be because at times he's completely tuned out.

But I think that if that...

stereotype were true all the time,

things would be going better.

You know, if he handed this off to leftists who were generally professionalized at what they were doing, you know, some of these advisors who were around him, if he handed off the presidency completely to those people, I think things would be going better.

Because at least those people would be able to do things in some relatively competent fashion.

Afghanistan is the perfect example of that, Pat.

We all knew what the left wanted out of Afghanistan.

They wanted to get out of there as soon as possible.

They don't prioritize our defense.

We all know the way that they act.

And a lot of us were on board with, hey, eventually this needs to end.

But the way they did it was just pure and utter incompetence, fueled by an ideology that blinded them from any of the downsides.

And that sort of thing is...

It's almost impossible to predict.

It's almost as if you've hired someone who's intentionally trying to destroy the country.

That's what it feels like at times, with Joe Biden.

There's a question we ask almost every day on Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens immediately before the show live and then anytime you want on your podcast.

But if you were trying to destroy the country, what would you do differently?

Yeah.

And I can't think of anything.

No.

I mean, they've covered all the bases and then some.

I mean, after, it's one thing to spend $1.9 trillion on stuff we didn't need when you come into your administration.

Almost every administration seems to get one bill like that at the beginning.

Like, you know, the stimulus plan with Obama, everyone seems to have that one bill that they get passed at the beginning, the tax cuts for Trump.

Like, everyone gets one through, it seems.

So he gets the $1.9 trillion through fine.

Like, obviously, it's not fine at all, but like, we kind of expect that.

But that was really before inflation started hitting.

In a noticeable way in the statistics, it was happening.

I think it was bubbling under.

You saw things like cryptocurrency react to it, right, and have that big run.

That kind of led those numbers, but it didn't lead the spending.

The spending was there.

It started, obviously, in 2020 with the COVID stuff initially.

And then once the country had already started bouncing back, people were going back to work.

We spent another $2 trillion on it.

So that was really the thing where democratic economists were coming out and saying, guys.

I'm with you on a lot of this stuff, but you got to stop, right?

People who were in the Obama administration, the Treasury Secretary of the Obama administration came out and said, hey, guys, you do this now.

We're going to have massive inflation.

But okay, they get that through.

Then the inflation happens.

They do the infrastructure bill.

And then he still

wants multiple trillions of dollars of spending.

After we've seen the results, after the inflation has happened, after everybody's already paying the price for this, they still want to spend multiple trillions of dollars.

So there's this weird intersection where President Biden stands in the middle of every single day between complete and utter incompetence and an odd ideological lock that's immovable by facts.

You know,

everyone goes back to, you know, Chairman Mao, right?

Who's like, yeah, look,

things aren't going so well, but we just keep pushing through.

You know, yeah, sure, 10 million died.

And, you know, let's keep

let's keep going.

And eventually this will turn around.

And they just keep going and going and going and going and going.

That sort of ideological dedication to this ridiculous spending and these terrible ideas is fascinating from Biden.

And then his execution of it is always terrible.

So those two things combine to the lowest approval rating ever recorded from any president.

up until this day of the presidency.

This is now he's he's surpassed Trump, who was the other other guy who had a low approval rating.

And again, the asterisk is always there with Trump because he started without the honeymoon period.

He's his approval rating was literally the entire time he was president, never above 50%.

So he started much lower than these other presidents because he came in, obviously, as a pretty divisive figure.

He just never, approval rating was never his thing, right?

That's not how he won the presidency.

That's not how he governed.

He never tried to be this like broad-based, hey, everybody come together guy.

He was a guy who said, Look, this is what I believe, and this is what I'm going to do.

And that's what a lot of people on the conservative side liked about him, right?

He just didn't, he didn't care.

Well, that's not what Biden ran at.

He ran as the opposite of that, a guy who was supposed to bring the country together.

He was this big uniter.

He was going to bring everybody together.

So he started at 54%.

By summer, he was down in the mid-40s.

Then you had Afghanistan go on.

He dropped down to 42%.

And then since the end of the year, 42%, 40%, 39%, 39%, 38%.

And then yet again, another new low.

This is the Monmouth Bull, 36% approval rating.

This is, again, lower than any other president at this point in their presidency in recorded history, going back to, I believe it's Truman.

So

pretty...

incredible.

If he could just communicate better what he's done, though, his message just needs to be communicated better.

And then I think he'd skyrocket.

You do?

Yeah.

Now, do you think he could clear these numbers?

Because let me give you the breakdowns by parties.

All right.

Okay.

3% approval by Republicans.

Now, that is...

Three?

3%.

3%?

Oh, I've never seen that.

I don't think we've ever seen that.

Have we?

You might say that's not so good.

Okay.

Now, I'm going to say right off the bat, that doesn't seem good.

It doesn't.

I'm going to allow you to believe that.

Okay.

But.

It's not two or one, which are the other lower options.

Or zero.

It could be 0%.

That's a good spin on that, Stuart.

So it's 3%, which is much better than the alternative

of 0, 1, or 2.

Okay.

It's bad.

50% higher than 2.

Now, independents, though, must absolutely love it.

They love it.

Absolutely love it.

Now, you might say,

in a stereotypical world, what you might get is a 0% approval rating from Republicans, 100% from Democrats, and 50% from Independents, right?

That might be what you'd expect.

Independents, 29%.

Now, that is catastrophic levels.

Abysmal.

It's catastrophic.

It is.

A lot of these people are Democrats who just kind of say their independence.

Like, you know, I'm a registered independent.

Obviously, I'm conservative and do not vote for Democrats, but I am a registered independent.

I'm, you know, I've been that for my entire life.

So I would fall into the category of independent.

And so this is true for both sides.

There's a lot of people who register as independent.

They're not necessarily in a party, but they have real leanings.

Those people are included in that 29%.

So there's a lot of Democrats essentially in there, and they are counting in that 29%.

But this actually might be the most disturbing one, and it's not going to sound that bad, but only 74% of Democrats approve.

And those numbers, to give you context of that, is about where Nixon was among Republicans when he left office.

Wow.

Only about 70% approval rating for Nixon when he left office among Republicans.

So your party basically doesn't abandon you, right?

You're always going to have most of those people with you.

It's impossible to get it lower.

Not impossible.

I shouldn't put it past Biden, but it's very difficult to get it any lower than this.

This is basically your bottom.

It's really hard to get your approval rating down to 74% among the party that elected you.

That just doesn't happen very often.

And here we are at 74%.

You start getting that into the 60s.

I don't know.

There will be that talk.

And I think a lot of it depends on what happens in this election coming up as to whether he's the candidate in 2024.

And they definitely, already they don't want him.

Yeah, we should get into some of that maybe too.

They don't want him.

There's some big stories that have come out recently on this.

A bunch of celebrities called the White House and they had this little call that they've been doing where, hey, guys, what if you guys do some TikTok videos?

You guys can post some TikTok videos.

Here's what we'd like you to say in your TikTok videos to support the administration.

Now, this has been going on for a while, but now those celebrities are like, why?

Why are we going to do that?

What are you doing for us?

Like, they're fighting back.

But, like, if this election goes as badly as it may for Democrats,

you're going to see, I think, a real push for someone like Gavin Newsom to be the candidate instead of Joe Biden.

I don't think they're going to push for Kamala.

No, I don't think so either.

Why?

Because she's a black woman.

That's the only reason.

And they're racist.

Yeah.

They're racist.

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Since we were just talking about our wonderful president,

I thought we'd share a little something from the past from Joe Biden.

This is kind of interesting because something was said more recently along these lines, and the person who said it was vilified, demonized.

They still

bring it up and it happened, I don't know, three or four years ago, four years ago, maybe five.

Joe Biden back in 1993 talking about Confederate flag waivers

and here's what he had to say about them.

Yes, the senator made a very moving and eloquent speech as a son of the Confederacy,

acknowledging that it was time to change and yield to a position that Senator Carol Mosley Braun

raised on the floor of the Senate,

not granting a federal charter

to an

organization made up of many fine people.

Oh.

who

continue to display the Confederate flag.

Oh my.

Wait.

Oh, my.

Many fine people

that display the Confederate flag.

Where have I heard that before?

I can't.

Somebody else said that.

I'm with that exact same phrase.

Very fine people.

Almost exactly the same phrase.

Wow.

Somebody just unearthed that and it started, you know, circulating on the internet.

And appreciate whoever it was that sent that to us because that's incredible.

That is really incredible.

Okay, wait.

You said the exact same thing thing 30 years ago, and now it's the worst thing you can possibly say.

And like, the same thing applies to Trump that applied to Biden at that time, which is, you know, like

the point was more broad than saying they're both, they're a fine white supremacist.

That's not what they're saying.

No.

They're saying that, you know, some people use that flag for, I mean, look, the freaking Dukes of Hazard used the flag, right?

Yeah.

It was

not seen

as a,

right or wrong, was not seen as a white supremacist symbol its entire time.

It was seen as something as, it became something of a southern heritage symbol.

And like that,

so a lot of the people that put it up, even though maybe they should have seen it another way, you could argue it, but they put it up because they just, you know, like the South.

That was it.

It wasn't some big, you know, they weren't glorifying slavery.

And I think that's what Biden is referring to here, right?

Like he's referring to people who didn't use it that way.

No, I think he's an absolute racist.

Right.

He's talking about white supremacy right there.

Exactly.

And this is because that's how they deal with it.

That's how they said it, but that's what they did with Trump.

They acted as if they didn't understand.

There's this idea of plausible deniability.

Not is this actually what happened, but can I come up with a scenario?

that will allow me to convincingly argue that I think that's what he meant.

You know, that's what's happening right now with the January 6th stuff.

It's like, well, Donald Trump said he wanted people let into the area around his speech,

even though they were armed.

And his,

what he said, this is the accusation from the testimony in the January 6th thing, which I know you weren't listening to, so let me recount it quickly.

She said,

Cassie Hutchinson said, hey,

the word I got was that he said he wanted people let in that were armed.

And his answer was, well, these are my people.

They're not going to harm me.

Yeah.

Now he's thinking about they're armed, but they're not going to hurt anybody.

So what?

Hey, security, relax.

These are my people.

They're not coming after me.

I think everybody that hears him in the context of that moment with that phrasing understands what really occurred there.

That that is what he's saying, if it happened at all.

That he's saying, look.

These are my people.

I'm not worried about you letting them in.

I know you're trying to protect me, but I'm not worried about that.

Just because they have guns does not make them dangerous.

I'm a guy who believes in the Second Amendment.

Everybody understands.

Everybody.

I think everybody on the left understands that's what Donald Trump meant with that.

What they are saying publicly is they he didn't care about anyone else.

He didn't mind people with guns being around because they were going to go kill Mike Pence and

people in Congress, not him.

So he didn't care about them.

He wanted to lead them down.

He wanted them to be armed because he knew they were going to target those other bad people that were trying to steal the election from him.

Which Which is bull crap.

And they know it.

Everybody knows that's not what he was saying there.

Everyone.

But they have plausible deniability because they've been able to come up with this ridiculous justification of another way he could have been thinking in that moment.

And then they all act as if they actually believe that's what he meant.

And it's the same thing here.

You know, over and over again, the same thing is applied.

The good people on both sides, far fine people on both both sides, was an example of that.

They knew

right after that in the speech, he said, I'm not talking about the white supremacists.

So they knew he wasn't referring to that.

Right.

But they acted as if he was.

And then a bunch of dumb people down the line don't look into it and think that's what really happened.

I mean, that is a, it's a real problem.

And it's been, I would say, it was always around before Donald Trump, but it was really brought out from the media when they tried to deal with Donald Trump.

It set off this thing where they said, well, we don't have to try anymore.

We don't have to act like we're trying.

We don't have to look like we're trying to do journalism anymore.

This is too important.

There's something going on here.

This guy's too bad.

He's a different creature.

We have to treat him differently.

Stop acting like we're journalists.

Just go for it.

And

that has set off.

That's really what they've done.

Yeah.

Set off a really bad series of events.

I think

it's really damaged our institutions.

Now, look, Trump has, you know, has had problems with his institutions as well.

It doesn't always care about them.

There's no question about

this has gone on.

You know, this is not just the media doing it.

It's everybody doing it at the same time.

But the media seems to lead it.

Because they're the ones that are supposed to be the responsible party here.

We all know politicians act on their own behalf.

They act in their own best interest.

We know that about politicians.

The media is supposed to be the ones coming out and saying, hey, this is what's true and this is what is not true.

They're trying to help us dissect when politicians make claims, which ones are true and which ones aren't.

And they've given up that responsibility.

They've ceded it completely.

Yeah.

I mean, it's good for our business, I guess, because then there's someone else to call it out and say, hey, this is true and this isn't.

But man, it's not, I don't think it's good for society overall.

No.

It's

just one of the things that I guess we've accepted along the way is the media has just

flipped to a biased organization as a whole.

And

that's just the way it's going to be now.

Just like the Democrats have flipped on certain things,

like when it comes to

the pandemic, they've completely flipped on Big Pharma.

Big Pharma used to be the big boogeyman.

There were terrible people.

They were overcharging the elderly.

They were responsible for driving people into poverty just because they wanted to be healthy.

All of a sudden now, they're heroes.

Big pharma is, it doesn't get any better.

So for Democrats.

Weird.

I mean, so weird.

I've done the show for 20 years plus now.

You've done radio for even longer.

The entire time I've done it, the Democrats hated big pharmaceutical companies.

Hated them.

Absolutely.

Made documentaries about how evil they were.

Every movie that came out was about how a pharmaceutical company was screwing people over.

Yes.

They literally hated all of them all the time.

And then all of the sudden, they love them all the time.

Yeah.

And honestly, the same thing, the opposite has happened on the other side, where I don't know that Republicans ever loved pharmaceutical companies, but they certainly were more defending.

I think they understood that, yes, they charge a lot of money for their

product.

But they do a lot of great products.

But they do research and development.

And almost all of that is done here in the United States by the pharmaceuticals in America.

And so, yeah, the price is a little higher.

Basically, every major development in modern medicine has come from the United States.

The United States and many of these companies.

That doesn't mean they're angels.

It doesn't mean they're perfect.

No.

They have done plenty of stuff that they've gotten in trouble for.

They've literally, you know,

they've gone through trials and done things that are wrong and put out medications that at some point have hurt people.

And all that stuff's true, but they also done a lot of really good things.

Yeah.

And I think I'm pretty sure, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the correct attitude toward them is to look at them and watch them on their merits, not to love them or to hate them, but just to say, okay, look, these guys are doing a good job with this right now.

These guys are doing a bad job with this right now.

That's kind of the sensible way.

It doesn't seem, it seems like the left just seems to be absolutely despising them for 40 years and then absolutely loving them and treating them like they're God.

A wholehearted embrace now.

It's so weird.

Did you ever think you'd see that day?

No.

No, absolutely not.

It's so strange.

And what's even more interesting is that

it was Trump who was working with all of these companies to bring about this vaccine.

He seemed to have forgotten that little aspect.

Yeah, like they

everything about him.

Yeah.

Except this.

But then they don't even give him credit for that.

Nope.

They act as if he had nothing to do with it.

I just will never understand it.

I was was doing a podcast the other day, and they were like, well, what do you think some of this?

How did politics, you know,

what were the things that you noticed about politics that were strange during the pandemic?

And I can't come up with a better example of that than that.

There's just, it's the straight, forget the reality of it.

What's true and what isn't for a second?

It's the strangest thing I've ever witnessed in politics.

Like the left absolutely despised everything Donald Trump touched

since he came into public view.

And they told everyone in the country to not take the vaccine because

Donald Trump helped it.

He was going to force a vaccine through without the proper safety testing.

Andrew Cuomo formed a separate council to double check Donald Trump's work because they were so scared it was going to be a scam.

And then Joe Biden won the election and all of the sudden, it was the best thing that had ever existed.

And it was perfect.

And on the other side, all of Trump's supporters, and not all, but many of Trump's supporters who stood with Trump as he campaigned on vaccine development can't stand the vaccine and never want to hear about it again.

Even as Donald Trump sits back and is like, I think it was this great thing that I accomplished.

They're like, shut up.

This guy they loved, they don't want to hear word one about it.

I don't care what is true and what isn't.

It is most the strangest and fastest change in a political, a major political side.

It's a sound

completely switched to the opposite side.

Yeah.

It's really legitimately fascinating to watch that happen.

And

that will be one if

that will go down in just this in a political science study for the ages.

No question.

Because you realize that people like Kamala Harris were telling you this was like poison as of like October 2020.

And by January, she was getting the jab.

Everything was fine.

Everything was fine.

It's the best thing ever.

And this is going to protect you.

You won't get the virus if you get this.

In fact, you're going to lose your job.

Right.

Are you a first responder who dedicated your life to solving this crisis?

You're out.

You're out on the streets.

In fairness to Trump supporters who flipped on this as well, it was partially the mandate that made them flip.

Yes.

You know, it's being told that we must or else

I don't want to.

And that's very true.

Look, there is, and everybody has their, their, you know, there's, it's, it's not pure, right?

Like, you know, a lot of people who are big Trump supporters got vaccinated.

I mean, you know, I mean, look, Trump did very well with elderly, yeah, with elderly supporters.

And, you know, you're at 90-some-odd percent.

So we know that a lot of people who are big Trump supporters did get vaccinated.

But I think, and this is why I think your point is so valid here, Pat, is that so much of the attitude and language and approach of the Biden administration infuriated people who were very open to getting the vaccine.

Yeah, I was open to it in the beginning.

Yeah.

And it's like.

And then wound up not getting it.

Because people were just like, get out of my face.

What are you talking about?

It was a violation of their personal liberty.

And it felt like giving in to a terrible government.

program rather than just like, okay, this, you know, this medicine works or it doesn't.

Yeah.

Which is how you're supposed to, this is how medicine's supposed to be.

You know, you're supposed to make medical decisions based on whether you think it's good or not, not how the government is forcing you into it and threatening you to be fined or be thrown out on the streets from your job.

Yeah.

That really hurt.

Really hurt.

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