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Yesterday, I was diagnosed with having COVID, so I am broadcasting from home, my man man cave,

today

because it's January 6th, and there is just too much to talk about on January 6th.

The record really needs to be set straight.

And if you missed last night's interview with Donald Trump, I think it was one of the better interviews he's done, and you will feel very optimistic.

I wanted to point out a couple of things that came out in the interview that

maybe you missed.

We'll do that coming up.

And I I want to hear from you about the Trump interview if you watched it last night.

The number is 888-727-BECK.

But we start with January 6th in 60 seconds.

So, you know, we were just listening to Chad Prather on Blaze TV.

He does a show on Blaze TV and podcasts.

He's very, very funny.

But he also

did a great monologue on how many many things we were supposed to die of.

All the fear-mongering that has gone on for a long time.

In fact, can we play that real quick?

Here's Chad Prayther.

Listen.

They have us under the tyrannical thumbs.

Look at all the crap they've been peddling

for years now.

Just health, technology, all the things they've used to scare us.

In 2000, Y2K was going to destroy civilization.

In 2001, we were all going to die from anthrax.

In 2002, West Nile virus was going to kill us all.

In 2003, SARS was going to wipe us out.

In 2005, it was the bird flu we were worrying about.

In 2006, E.

coli was definitely going to get us.

In 2008, none of us were going to survive the market collapse.

In 2009, it was swine flu that was going to kill us.

In 2012, the mine calendar ran out.

Remember that?

The end was at hand.

In 2013, North Korea was going to start World War III.

In 2014, none of us were going to survive the outbreak of Ebola.

In 2015, Donald Trump was going to get us into a war with the entire world.

In 2016, if the Zika virus didn't kill us, then ISIS ISIS would.

In 2018, it was climate change that was shutting us down.

In 2020 to present day, of course, you know, it was the novel coronavirus and all of its subsequent variants that had our number.

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Excuse the way I sound today, but I've been diagnosed with COVID, which is

much less than it was the first time I had COVID before there was a vaccine.

And I'll get into this here in a minute because I think it's important that you understand what's really going on with COVID.

And it looks like I think we're going to end up being the ones that were right this whole time.

But we'll get into that a little later on in the program.

It is January 6th.

And I really wanted to start with

letting America know

who we are.

And I don't mean you, you know who we are.

I mean letting people know in the media and the left, I shouldn't say the left, Democrats, Democrats, because I don't think I think there's a ton of Democrats right now that are tired of all this stuff.

They're not leftist Marxists, they're not.

And I feel like they're trapped and they don't know what to do because they don't necessarily trust our side, but they don't trust their side.

And so we have to lead by example.

I want to shock our detractors today.

CNN predicted today will be about division, and President Biden and the left will deliver solemn remarks, while former President Trump of the right is going to spin justifications for the actions of January 6th.

No, I'm not going to do that.

There is no justification for January 6th.

There isn't.

It was wrong.

Period.

Enough said.

Like every major conservative voice, I have and continue to openly and clearly condemn what happened on January 6th.

At the heart of the conservative movement, we honor our institutions.

We don't believe in resorting to violence.

We were the victims.

We were the ones trying to stand up and say, please stop the riots on the street all during the summer.

We don't believe in employing chaos to achieve our goals.

That's not who we are.

We treat each other peacefully and decently.

Most of the country is not like the coast.

It's not like LA.

It's not like Portland.

And it's not like New York or Boston or Philadelphia.

It's really more like Florida.

Florida is kind of a purplish state.

And everybody kind of gets along.

You know, everybody's like, hey,

I don't care who you voted for.

You know, don't tell me what to do.

And I won't tell you what to do.

We believe in treating each other decently.

And any outlet trying to paint a different picture of us or you is desperately clinging to a division that just doesn't exist.

Today is a really important day as a reminder.

Look what happens when somebody loses control.

Look what happens when somebody raises up, rises up in violence.

The left has been begging for us to do it, and I think they're, well, we'll get into that here in a second, but they need us to be violent.

They want us to be hateful.

And when we're not, their understanding of us collapses.

Well, let it collapse.

Let it.

Because

those that say

we are violent,

they don't understand us.

They don't know us.

That's not who we are.

To anyone who wants to drown us in division, no.

I won't be a part of it.

For anybody who wants the anniversary of January 6th to be a reminder of how low we went, we say January 6th will be the day that we go high.

It'll be the day that we promote peace, understanding, civility, and our constitutional rights.

For anybody who works to stoke our our anger

to turn us against one another

let January 6th be a reminder they failed and they'll always fail because anger and hate and division are fickle motivators peace is eternal and peace always wins you want us angry

go ahead I'm not gonna bow to you You want us divided?

Well, that's fine.

I'm going to love my neighbor anyway.

You want us to condone violence and chaos?

No, we won't.

And we'll be clear.

So, today we should look at January 6th as a marker in time to now use this as a day to unite.

Because

on January 6th last year,

99.9% of the country agreed.

It's exactly what it's exactly what happened with BLM.

When we first saw the police officer put his knee on the neck, we were all like, that's wrong.

That's wrong.

But they used it to divide us anyway and to hype up that half of America agreed with the police officer.

No, that wasn't true.

And the same thing with January 6th.

So do something nice today.

Do something for a neighbor.

Give your server an extra big tip today.

Smile at the stranger that that you pass because that's who we really are about.

That's who we are.

We'll define today and we'll define it with kindness and love and just being an American.

That's the important thing today.

But it's also important to set the record straight.

You know, just because you love somebody doesn't mean that you don't point out where they have it wrong.

And I'm not pointing out to the New York Times where they have it wrong because that would take far too long.

But the great arbiter of all truth, the New York Times, published an article yesterday with the headline, Election Falsehoods Surged on Podcasts Before Capitol Riots Researchers Find.

What is this story about?

Well, I'll tell you, this story is clearly just targeting podcasts and radio.

That's all it is.

Now that they are still losing because they can't silence us, I was told, go online.

We don't want you here.

You'll have to build your own thing.

Well, I did.

Now they see how effective it is, and now they can't have us online.

Here's the sub-headline.

A new study analyzed nearly 1,500 episodes showing the extent to which podcasts pushed misinformation about voter fraud.

Now the article opens mentioning me clearly from the outset.

They're accusing me of spreading election falsehoods.

It says it in the headline.

It's a pretty serious charge, accusing me of lying to this audience about the election and voter fraud.

So with that in mind, I want to read the opening paragraph of this article from the New York Times.

Weeks before the 2020 presidential election, the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck outlined his prediction prediction for how Election Day would unfold.

President Donald J.

Trump would be winning that night, but his lead would erode as dubious mail-in ballots arrived, giving Joe R.

Biden Jr.

an unlikely edge.

Now, the next line is a quote that something I said on radio in 2020, quote,

no one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time, ⁇ End quote.

Now, since the New York Times is the great arbiter of all truth, I'm almost certain that the article didn't go through any fact-check, PolitiFact, Snopes, any of Facebook's army of fact-checking referees.

The New York Times has one of those get away with our version of the truth Scott free cards that they can play at any time.

But as usual,

it's context that is left on the cutting room floor.

Context.

It's inconvenient when it comes to character assassination attempts like this one.

But here is why context always matters.

Because when something is taken blatantly out of context in order to serve your narrative, it is the equivalent of a lie.

Before I get to the context with the New York Times conveniently left on the cutting room floor, I should note that there's a new study this article references, and it's from the Brookings Institution, a century-old D.C.

think tank.

Now, if you don't know who the Brookings Institution is, let me tell you, it is noteworthy that the former Brookings Institute analyst named Igor Danchenko, do you remember who he was, Stu?

Igor Danchenko.

No, I don't remember the name.

You know the name, though, right?

I mean, it sounds familiar, but I don't remember what it was tied to.

He was the man who claimed to have knowledge about cooperation between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin.

He's the guy that's just been indicted.

Igor Denchenko.

Okay?

That's right.

He's the guy who passed the information to Christopher Steele.

Now he's been charged with lying to investigators about the information.

That guy came from the Brookings Institute.

It's also noteworthy that the donors include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Facebook, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Comcast NBC Universal, BlackRock Financial, the United Nations Foundation, the Embassy of the State of Qatar, and dozens more.

So

it's not really a credible operation.

But the study was ready to be released on Tuesday of this week, and it's almost as if they were coordinating something because the

New York Times article about the study came out yesterday.

And actually, we know the New York Times got their hands on the study long before it was released because they reached out to one of my colleagues on Monday asking us if we wanted to comment.

We didn't comment on this because it's not my first rodeo with the New York Times, but I did provide them with full context.

And I want to show you that full context in just a second because this is an effort to take all of us down.

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So, let me give you the quote again that was in the New York Times.

No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time.

And they're saying that I was saying

that

Joe Biden is going to claim he wins, and

then we can't believe it.

That's what they're claiming I said.

Okay.

Scary, if that's what I meant.

The New York Times hopes that's what I meant, but then when we corrected them, they ran with the story anyway, even though they know that's not true.

Because here's what the Times forgot to mention: the quote was pulled from a segment in which I was talking about the report from the Transition Integrity Project.

You remember that?

The project got a ton of media coverage, mostly because it predicted the end of America in all election results scenarios, except except Biden winning in a landslide.

So here's what I said on September 10th, 2020, when that came out.

Listen.

Brooks has conducted war games to play out a range of Election Day and post-election day scenarios.

Virtually all the outcomes save one, a Biden landslide, have ended up facilitating a nightmarish fallout.

Well, what about a Trump landslide?

I've been telling you, only a landslide will do it, a landslide of Biden or a landslide of Trump.

Otherwise,

they have set this thing up that no one's going to believe the outcome.

No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time.

So, now wait a minute.

So, am I hyping the Republicans up to go out for violence?

Or am I saying that it will take a landslide for either Biden or Trump?

A landslide will be the only way that you'll be able to believe it.

That's an incrediblely incredible.

I mean, usually they'll take something out of context and try to make it look like it was something that it wasn't.

This is, you're actually commenting on what was essentially a left-wing report.

It's not.

And

we told them when we talked to them, you run with this.

That's liable.

That's liable.

And you better attorney up, New York Times, because that's liable.

That's not what I said.

You knew it.

We talked to you about it.

We gave you the audio.

So you knew the context.

And you did it anyway to

libel me.

So anyway.

That's such a strange thing.

It's such a strange thing, too.

I mean, like, you know, they are obviously trying to go after now podcasts.

They've gone out and tried to ban everybody from social media.

They're done with that.

They're going after podcasts and other things now.

And that's, you know, very much in the normal left-wing playbook.

Right.

We're used to that.

But, you know, of all people, like, you've done dozens of events where all you do is preach about Martin Luther King.

I listened to, just to go back to listen to some of it, to your January 6th morning program before the actual events of that day occurred.

And you're saying, don't go out and cause mayhem in the streets.

You literally are advising the morning of January 6th not to do what wound up happening, and you did that for 10 years previous as well, consistently all the time.

And then you try to make you out to the face of the insurrection.

It's completely insane.

It's as if they have never listened to the show in their entire lives.

Well, they haven't.

What more importantly, you cannot listen to the New York Times.

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Let me go to Eric in Indiana.

Hello, Eric.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on.

Big fan, longtime supporter.

Thank you.

Hey, I hope you feel better soon.

Thank you.

Nice to meet you.

It is.

That's okay.

It's your turn to talk here.

I just didn't want to talk over you.

Yeah, I listened to the interview last night, Glenn, and I just thought it was fantastic.

And it's the first time since Independence Day, 2012, where I felt truly hopeful for returning to constitutional values.

I just thought that last night was about the future.

It was about unifying.

And like you said, where they're just constantly trying to divide us.

I mean, members of my own family, I'm vaccinated, but my daughters aren't.

They won't meet with my daughters.

And so we're divided.

And no doctor told them to do that or anything you know literally the president did and so i just think that trump's interview last night was so unifying and so so inspirational that i'm i'm fully on board now and like during the um 2016 primaries um here in indianapolis i went to the ted cruise convention where he announced uh carly fiorina as uh as his running mate you know and you know trump had said things like horse face and lying ted and i never liked that stuff you know and i was always a supporter because I do feel like he had a role as a drain the swamp kind of guy, a hit-in-the-nose, you know, fight back against the media kind of guy.

But I never saw him as the healer that you had talked about in the past and others had talked about.

But, man, that interview last night really turned me around.

I'm telling you, it wasn't since, like I said, 2012, you know, the Tea Party stuff.

I was there in D.C.

on Independence Day.

I was there in D.C.

on September 12th.

And man, that was such an awesome movement.

I had such high hopes.

And it wasn't until last night, man, that

Trump brought that back for me.

And this morning I called my dad.

I just said, I'm on board.

I said, we got to get this guy re-elected.

And I think you're right.

I think he's running.

I mean, watching that interview again last night, I mean, he's running.

I am excited.

I am fired up this morning.

Yeah, that's great.

I'm really glad to hear that, Eric.

You know, that was my intent.

I talked to him before we went down there, and I said, look,

you know,

everybody is just

talking to you, and we're relitigating the past.

I don't want to talk about the past.

I want to talk about about the future because I think people are looking at what's going on.

Here's the really bad thing about September 11th.

Eric, thanks for your call.

The bad thing about not September 11th, January 6th.

January 6th, they are now, the press is using this as a distraction on all of the really important problems: our schools, our corruption in our FBI, the Justice Department, the Department of Education,

gas prices, meat prices, inflation, spending out of control, all of these things that are happening, Putin, China, they all go to the back burner because they're focused on January 11th.

Sorry, January 6th.

I can't get this date right.

January 6th.

Because they're focused on that, do you know how many good, decent Democrats are feeling alone and feeling like, gosh,

it's just me that's going through all of these things.

I guess that's not important.

This must be the really important thing.

They're really being screwed by the left and

by the media.

And that's tragic, really tragic.

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At the end, my wife said, you know, that's the first time

I've ever seen an interview with him where it seemed like just two people hanging out having a conversation.

And I felt that way as well.

It was just a different interview and very, very, very hopeful.

In fact, can we play,

if you wonder if he is running or not, can we go to

the

sot where where

he is saying it was at the very end, and I don't know if you missed this,

but it was at the very end where he said,

where is it?

Where he talked about, you know, making America great again.

Play that, please.

It's so sad, our country right now.

I don't think we've ever been lower.

And despite all of the witch hunts and the phony Russia, Russia, Russia impeachments, it was a beautiful time.

We had the greatest economy in history.

We then had the ternavirus come in, and then I rebuilt the economy.

I really rebuilt it twice.

The second time harder than the first.

But we had the greatest economy, the greatest everything.

It was a glamour pit.

It was a beautiful period.

And now I see what's happening with energy, with inflation, with the military, with these clowns.

And I said, you know what?

Let's put out a book talking about how beautiful it was because we're going to make it that way again.

What does that mean, Stu?

We made America great once.

We'll make America great again.

Again.

My God.

Okay.

To me, there is no way

he's not running.

We'll play more of the interview coming up in a little while.

I was thinking about what kind of person it would take to not run if you were Donald Trump right now.

The nomination is his.

He doesn't have to do anything to get it.

He's

dozens of points ahead of anyone else who would be challenging him.

Now, of course, anything can happen.

You know, you never know what the future will bring, but he would have to basically,

you know, it would be a very strong man to say, no, I don't want this nomination, unless he just thinks it's just too much of a disruption to his life.

It's his.

He doesn't have to even work for the nomination.

It's his.

So he becomes a one-and-two shot, and the other person is Joe Biden, probably,

who is

terrible and is running the the country into the ground.

I know you think maybe Hillary runs.

I'm sure other people will run

as a challenge, especially the way this is going with Biden.

If it continues to go this poorly, he probably won't even run for re-election and they'll have to run somebody else.

So, you know,

how could you resist it?

I mean, unless you just didn't think it was important.

Oh, I think you could resist it for another reason.

In the interview last night, he said,

you know, I really had two jobs: try to get the country back on track and survive yeah

and it it's true i mean

he was fighting for his survival every day since you know the minute he came down the escalator he was fighting for his own survival and and i don't think he saw that coming i thought he would i think he thought that you know he'd still get the good press blah blah blah and you know they would be harsh on him but not like that and uh it's because he's an outsider but he was really clear you know we had dinner afterwards and um

you know when the when the president former president says what are you doing for dinner tonight

the right answer is i don't know mcdonald's uh because that's what i said and he looked at me he actually said you and i We could eat together for a very long time.

And I said, yes, we could.

Anyway,

we had dinner with the first lady, and

I think that's what wounded him deeper than anything else, was the attacks on her.

So unfair and so cruel on her.

And I think, you know, for him to go back into the arena,

would you, I mean, you know what it was like, Stu, when we were at Fox and literally every day we were fighting for our life.

Do you just immediately say, oh, yeah, I'd go back?

No, and

that's why I said I think the only decision for him is if it disrupts his personal life, right?

I mean, like, you think of a person like Ron DeSantis who's thinking about potentially running.

He's got a million things to think about, right?

It's not just whether it disrupts his personal life, but it's like, can I win?

Who would I be running against?

You know,

do I, you know, how do I play this?

When's the right time to announce?

None of those things are factors with Trump.

All he has to do is say yes, and it's his.

There's no poll that shows anyone can even come close to challenging him.

So it's just really like, okay, let me make a personal decision based on myself and my family.

What's the best thing and the country?

What do I think is the best way forward?

With everyone else,

there's a million political calculations to factor in.

You also,

and the number one thing you have to factor in, if you're anyone other than Donald Trump, is, is Donald Trump going to run?

Because if you're Ron DeSantis and you you announce, and then two weeks later, Trump announces, you are now,

you know, you're the second fiddle on the ticket.

You're at best running for vice president in most circumstances.

There is, if I were thinking, which it would be crazy for me to think this, but if I were thinking, I'm Ron DeSantis, let's say it that way, and I'm thinking I might run for president.

There's no way, no way, until I have a hard, fast, public no from Donald Trump that he's not running.

I mean,

it'll be a cruise to

the nomination.

And what, of course, makes this difficult, you know, and Donald Trump knows the media.

He's obviously

very, very good at understanding what gets attention in the media.

He knows the second he gives a hard, fast no, a lot of his power drains away.

Right?

Like, you know, he'll, I think, be a kingmaker in the Republican Party for as long as he wants to be.

But, like, you know, the media circus around Donald Trump starts going away when he says, I'm not running anymore.

He's now, now the focus goes to Ron DeSantis or whoever else is going to run.

So there's no incentive for him not to keep it alive, even if he wasn't running.

But I mean, again, everybody inside his inner circle, people

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Have you heard the name Ray Epps?

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And we're going to talk to somebody who has been investigating Ray Epps coming up in just a few minutes.

Let me go to Linda in Florida.

Hello, Linda.

Hello.

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Hi.

Yes, go ahead.

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Yes, it is.

Okay.

I have a question for you.

I've been thinking about this,

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Mr.

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well, you know, his presidency was uh gone but um i my question to you is i did not get to see the interview last night with mr trump but um in in your interview and how you

had um you know

you know gone through the question and so do you see where um you know mr trump will be

different in in how he handles

of course if he runs i will definitely definitely vote for him.

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Because I believe that people that voted for him in the past, there may be a good chance that a lot of people will not vote for him.

because of the way he acts and how he portrays himself.

And I know that that's the acting in him because that's what he's done.

Right.

I don't think I could speak to how he's going to run.

Donald Trump is going to be Donald Trump.

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We're going to go into Ray Epps and who this guy is.

It's really

it's

you know

let's say there is nothing to Ray Epps.

Then why is the the FBI and everybody else behaving the way they are?

It's like they want a conspiracy theory.

I don't know how you explain the Ray Epps situation,

but we have a guy who has been on this with the revolver for a while

and he's probably the best on this issue.

We're going to introduce you perhaps to Ray Epps if you don't know the name

and why his name is so important.

Then also next hour, we're going to go into

Congress and we're going to talk to one of our leading congressmen about

the situation of the January 6th Committee.

Do you know that some people still have not had trial, still in jail, no trial?

It's been a year.

It's been a year.

And no one has been charged with sedition.

So,

what exactly is going on?

I mean, I think time served is probably pretty good at this point.

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Well, it's January 6th.

Today is a day that all of the media has been celebrating

over to be able to mark the one year anniversary of the worst terrorist attack, the worst event in American history since the Civil War.

Average Americans know that's absolute bullcrap.

Average Americans and me, we were all horrified by January 6th, thought it was an abomination, thought it was

dangerous and stupid politically.

But the New York Times and others are making this into something that it is not.

So let's get some of the facts down.

We have a guest.

He is a former professor at Duke University, former speechwriter for the White House, and the founder of Revolver.news.

He's been following the story of Ray Epps.

Why can't we get any answers on this one?

We go there in 60 seconds.

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He is a former professor, Duke University, former White House speechwriter, and the founder of Revolver News, the anniversary of January 6th.

So let's get an update from Darren.

Hi, Darren.

Hey, thanks for having me again.

You bet.

So I wanted to talk to you because

the press is making it

that there's all kinds of conspiracy theories, that the right is buying into conspiracy theories about this.

I don't know what the truth is.

I just know that there are a few things that don't make any sense.

First of all, it's the worst one

and yet nobody has been charged with sedition or anything like it.

And then you have players like Ray Epps.

Can we play the audio here of Ray Epps?

Listen to the audio.

In fact, tomorrow,

I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.

Well, let's not say it.

We need to go.

I'll say it.

We need to go in

to the Capitol.

Let's go.

I'm going to put it out there.

If I'm going to go to jail first James tomorrow,

we need to go into the Capitol.

Into the Capitol.

So here he is

talking clearly about going into the Capitol.

He is stirring people up the night before.

In this last clip where he was saying that, you could hear them saying FBI Stooge, FBI Plant.

But he was on a most wanted list, and then nothing happened.

Can you tell me the story about this?

Yeah, I mean this here's a remarkable case, this individual Ray Abson, just to give a bit fuller context for what his involvement was, he's not only ubiquitous the evening before

January 6th, going to multiple different groups with multiple different agendas and really corralling them and focusing them on this new and utterly bizarre mission to go into the Capitol.

And you can hear a little bit about how people's reaction to this.

What are you talking about?

Fed, you're a Fed.

He remained persistent.

He went to every different group and he focused them on this mission to go into the Capitol.

And what's important to say is that this isn't just some random drunk on the evening of January 5th that we never heard from again.

He followed up on this stated mission the next day on January 6th.

He's a veritable where's Waldo.

And if your listeners go to Revolver.news and read the first Ray Epps report, we have tons of video evidence documenting his every move on January 6th.

He's everywhere, and he's telling the crowds, after Trump's speech is over, we're all going to the Capitol.

That's where our problems are.

Our enemy is the Capitol.

And sure enough, at 12.53 p.m., crucial to note, Trump is still speaking at this time.

But at 12.53 p.m., Ray Epps is not at the Trump speech.

He flew all to D.C.

all the way from Arizona.

He's wearing a Trump hat, but he's not at the Trump speech.

What's more important to him is he's right there by the metal barricade, and he whispers into someone's ear, and two seconds later, that someone engages in the first and decisive and fateful breach to the Capitol grounds that starts the whole thing off.

This is the same guy who the previous evening was telling everyone we need to go into the Capitol.

Initially, as you point out, the FBI thought he was important enough to include him as one of the 20 most wanted January 6th offenders.

They said we need to identify him.

Well, then the internet identified him and the Feds FBI cricket until Revolver.news ran a piece basically implicating the FBI in January 6th.

And the day after this came out, the Fed quietly scrubbed Epps' name and his face from their public database.

And since then, the only thing that any official FBI agent has said about Ray Epps is to deny all knowledge of his existence.

So we have the tape.

Are we ever going to get an answer on this?

Is there any

movement on this?

Yes, that's an excellent question.

I'm really glad that you asked that because obviously this is very important to me.

It's very important to the country.

And we're not going to get any answer from A.G.

Merritt Garland, who's been a mop-up boy for precisely these types of said infiltration operations going back decades.

We're not going to get any answers from the sham

exercise in political theater that is the January 6th Committee.

The only place we're going to get answers, I think there are two possibilities if we're going to get ultimate answers at all.

One possibility, and this might sound crazy, but I've become very familiar with the way that these said operations work.

And a lot of times, the higher-up handlers of people like Ray Epps, they think of them as parm.

And Ray Epps may have been tricked in some capacity.

Maybe he was told that the reason that he was doing what he was doing was for something that turned out to be not the case.

Maybe he feels like he was misled.

Maybe he didn't really fully understand that he was going to be used as an instrument in an agenda to label half the country as domestic terrorists.

But for whatever reason, Rayeps or many of the other actors who are clearly feds or Fed informants, they can step up.

They have the power to expose their handlers and to break the case wide open.

So that's one option.

The second option is the defense attorneys for the defendants in January 6th cases.

And on this, I'm cautiously optimistic.

One defense attorney for Kelly Meggs, who is an Oathkeeper defendant, has, on the basis of Revolver.news' reporting, issued a subpoena demanding the testimony from Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes, who is the founder and leader of the Oathkeepers militia group, who's also curiously uncharged.

And so one of two things can happen.

Either the subpoena goes through and they actually do have to testify under oath, in which case that can be extremely interesting, or

in the case of agents and informants, the government has the power to block subpoena.

And if the government steps in and intervenes and somehow blocks the subpoenas, that would be unfortunate, but the very act of blocking it itself indicates that there's something they really don't want us to hear, which gives us additional information as well.

So I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with the defense attorneys really embracing a potential entrapment case, understanding that the fact that you had instigators who are very likely feds is exculpatory information on the part of their clients and their defendants in these cases.

Darren, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done at Revolver.news

on this subject.

I don't know how it ends.

I don't know who he was.

But if you are looking for somebody somebody who was the instigator and had a plan, he seems to be the number one candidate.

You know, not people on talk radio or podcasts who are saying, hey, we've got to

fight, fight, fight.

Let me ask you what we do know about him.

Where does he come from?

What does he do?

What's his history?

Well, he has an interesting background, like

people who end up becoming sort of jobbers and contractors for this type of work, he does have a military background.

He's a Marine.

He also has a background as the president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers Militia Group.

And those familiar with Revolver.news' reporting will see that the Oath Keepers is the most heavily prosecuted quote-unquote boogeyman militia group associated with 16.

And it's a whole other thread that we've investigated and reported on that a lot of the oath keepers people who are underlings who are being hit with very serious charges, they're being hit with conspiracy charges.

And when you look at the charging documents, the charging documents cite the words and the actions and the behaviors of Stuart Rhodes, who's the founder and head of it, who, for whatever reason, is not only uncharged a year later, a year later, he hasn't even been subject to a proper search.

The only search that he's been subjected to was a single cell phone four months after January 6th.

And so it just happens to be the case that Ray Epps was the president of the Arizona chapter of this very same militia group.

And we have all kinds of footage of him powing around with Stuart Rhodes as well, which is

an interesting connection to say the least.

There is at least really heavy smoke.

Whether Whether there is a fire there, and he is the center of it, I don't know.

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there are questions that must be answered by the government on this.

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Let me go to Darren Beatty.

He is a former professor at Duke University, former White House speechwriter, and

he started Revolver.news.

And we've been talking about the January 6th

debacle and what's coming of this investigation.

First of all, how many people have yet to be charged and are in jail a year later?

Do you have any idea, Darren?

I don't know the exact number, but the number is

definitely greater than zero.

There are definitely people who've been wallowing away under atrocious conditions, some cases, solitary confinement and such.

And that really goes to show the other side of the coin to the fact that people like Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes are on charge.

The other side of the coin is that just, you know, very small fish are being given the most draconian, almost third-world Abu Ghraib-type treatment imaginable on the basis of extremely trivial offenses, if they're offenses at all, and not even given the opportunity for a speedy trial or anything.

And there are several cases that I'm familiar with of people put in those positions and taken a long time to be granted bail if they're granted bail at all.

And so it's really, it's shameful, and it really goes to underscore how bizarre and inexplicable and really even scandalous the selective non-prosecution is for people like Ray Fs, who happens to be the only person in the mountains of footage that exists on 1.6 calling explicitly for this mission to go into the Capitol, and he remains untouched.

Tell me about the pipe bombs.

The night before, somebody apparently

put pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC.

What do we know about that now, a year later?

You know, that's a very interesting question.

I'm glad that this is sort of the interest in this has resurrected on the anniversary because there are a couple of things to say about this.

One is just curious, I'm not making so much of it, it's just an interesting incidental detail, is that the authorities caught wind of these pipe bombs basically just as that initial Ray-Epps breach of the metal barricade to the Capitol occurred around 12.53 p.m.

And so

whether it was intended to be this or not, it was almost a perfect diversionary tactic to get already scarce law enforcement personnel away from the Capitol, away from that initial breach site, in order to attend to this bomb scare at the RNC and ENC.

So the timing there is really interesting, and I'll just leave it at that and allow people to infer as they will.

What else is important about this is that, okay, the FBI is

put on this act the same way that they put on the act with EPS, saying, we need your help identifying Eps.

Please help us.

We just have no idea who this is.

Then Eps is identified like two days later and they do nothing with it.

They did the similar charade with this pipe bomb.

They released this grainy video.

They clearly have more video than they're giving out.

But for whatever reason, they're so interested in catching the people, and all they'll release is this ridiculous grainy footage that's clearly nowhere near all the footage that they have.

They haven't released the forensics, they haven't released if they have any fingerprints, nothing.

They give us this grainy footage, and this acts like, oh, please, please help us

identify this person.

Well, if you want us to identify it, then release all the footage that we know that you have.

At Revolver.news, if people go there, they can see our extensive report on the pipe bomb that goes into details at how we know that they have more footage than they're releasing.

And just another really interesting tidbit about this.

The individual, the representative of the FBI that's calling for the public to help identify the so-called pipe bomber, his name was Stephen D'Antuono.

Now,

the interesting thing about this individual is that before he was in his position at the DC field office, he ran the Detroit FBI field office.

The reason that's significant is that means that he was the guy that ran the infiltration operation in this so-called Michigan kidnapping plot.

He was the head of the Detroit field office as that was happening.

And we now know that this basically was a trial run for January 6th in the sense that it involved the same plot, basically, in this case to storm the Michigan state capitol.

It involved one of the e-militia groups also impeded to 1.6, namely the three percenters.

And now we know for a fact that 12 out of the 26 so-called plotters were either federal agents or federal informants.

And the guy who ran that infiltration operation is the same guy calling for the public, saying, Please help us identify these pipe bombers.

It's like you can't even make this up.

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It is fascinating.

I wonder if we're ever really going to know what happened.

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You know, it's really telling when you talk about Ray Epps

and you look at, what, about 600 people have been arrested, Stu?

Yes, 6 or 700, I thought it was.

Yeah.

6 or 700.

Okay, so you have this number of people that have been arrested, and none of them have been charged with insurrection or sedition or anything like that.

It's criminal trespass, et cetera, et cetera.

It's an assault on a police officer.

All those things, I'm totally cool with.

You go to jail.

You do that.

You go to jail.

It's consistent with my view on the riots with BLM.

You burn down a building.

You go to jail for that.

Not on a political charge.

You go to jail for breaking the law of burning down buildings, robbing stores, et cetera, et cetera.

So I have no problem with that.

But when you look at the charges in the last year that have come out, they don't match with the fairy tale that this was the worst terrorist attack or the worst attack on America since the Civil War.

It clearly was not because no one, you know, the New York Times is running stories now of people they interviewed.

And one they interviewed today was a guy who was a Democrat, but was there.

A registered Democrat.

Three months in jail.

Go ahead.

Registered Democrat, a lifelong Democrat by his telling,

that was not planning to go to the Trump speech, decided to go kind of last minute.

He's within a train ride of New York, of Washington, D.C.

He went down to the speech, kind of got caught, what he said, I got kind of caught up in the herd.

We all sort of went towards the Capitol.

He said he didn't even know Congress was in session, and he was really,

you know, overt about that.

He said, the one thing I really want you to believe is that I didn't even know they were in session.

Like, he's like, it was just like, I thought we were at a speech, and we went in there.

And there wasn't like, I think if I walked in and there was somebody right at the door saying, get out, turn around, I probably would have, but there wasn't.

We kind of all just walked in.

I was walking around taking pictures of the Capitol.

And, you know, it seems he did eventually have an altercation with a police officer

where he sort of undersold how serious it was.

They found more video of it, and they wound up putting him in jail for three months for that incident.

Why was he doing that?

He's a Democrat.

Yeah, he was, you know, he was a Democrat.

He did have some social media postings about

believing in some of the theories on the election.

And he had seemingly, you know, Trump had a lot of Democratic supporters.

You know what I mean?

He

basically basically said he sort of turned,

he was a Democrat, but wound up liking Trump a lot, basically.

Here's the one guy that's going to talk.

He sort of explained that in the interview.

But what was interesting is like, you know, if you went to a bar and you were causing a ruckus in a bar and a police officer showed up and you threw a punch at a police officer, let's just say, you might go to jail for three months for that.

And that's what they, the overwhelming majority of

these charges are, which are people who did something that they probably shouldn't have done, certainly shouldn't have done in some cases,

and wound up with mild punishments that are pretty much what you'd expect in a normal circumstance.

It's not sedition.

There may very well be some people, it does seem that really had these ideas.

You mentioned Epps before, who was actually, we don't know his whole story, obviously, but was actually saying those types of things in advance.

You may see those charges.

Right.

You'd have to think those charges, though, are

more time-consuming to actually put together, right?

Like, yes, having a person say something on tape is a big piece of evidence, but if it's tied into some larger, bigger conspiracy with bigger players that were really trying to overturn the election or stop Congress, that's going to be a more complicated case to prove than someone walking in and getting in a fight with an officer.

The bottom line, though, is that

the problem here is this fairy tale that this is the worst thing since the Civil War.

Paraphrasing, I think it was Yuvalvin who said, like, it's very easy to overestimate January 6th and to underestimate January 6th.

It wasn't nothing.

It wasn't like a bunch of people touring the Capitol.

It also wasn't the worst thing since the Civil War.

And we have to recognize that.

It is what it is.

And 99% of Americans all said the same thing on January 6th.

Stop it.

This is...

I was in a room full of people as we were watching it unfold.

I immediately, I think I immediately got online and said, this has got to stop, got to stop.

You did.

I mean,

you know,

this idea that somehow or another it's a grand conspiracy,

and yet, you know, Sean Hannity is reaching out to the president saying, you got to stop him.

You know,

Don Jr.

is doing it.

I mean, where's the conspiracy here?

They obviously thought it was terrible and wanted it to stop, and that was happening not only in public, but behind the scenes.

But I will say, to your point, Glenn, yes, you did say right after the event that this was

was a bad thing.

But it's amazing like looking at, you know, the New York Times tried to, you did a hit piece on you and some others saying you're this big lead insurrectionist because of you talking about a left-wing report in 2000 in September, well before the election even happened, let alone the insurrection.

But you also said this consistently for years and years and years, that we needed to act like Martin Luther King and understand that if we have outbursts of violence or anger, they will be used against us.

You have to avoid them at all costs.

You did that for a long time, these events.

The event you did in Birmingham was all about that specific thing leading up to this.

Then I remember you on the day before January 6th, so January 5th, talking about the event that was coming the next day.

I believe we have that audio.

I know people who are going to Washington.

I know people who feel passionately about what's happening in our country.

But I don't know any of them that want to start a war, want to start a fight, want to be beat up in the streets or beat people up in the streets.

That's just not who

we've ever been.

Now, there might be some people

that are going in support of, you know, Stop the Steel that do feel that way, but they're in the vast minority.

But those people, if they engage with Antifa or whatever, those are the people that are going to be seen on television.

And that will be the poster child of whatever we're doing.

There's a couple of things that you should do if you are going to march in activities like this.

And the first thing is you have to really kind of channel your inner Martin Luther King and know that the people that are there against you

are there to make you do something

that you either don't want to do or really, really, really want to, but your better angels keep you on that path, and so you don't.

They are there to poke you with sticks.

They're provocateurs.

If you are going to go into

a political activity, do not engage people that are on the streets yelling at you.

Don't debate them.

There is no reason to debate them.

They are not, you're not going to change their mind.

They are not shouting things at you because they think, whoa, that person looks like he's going to be open-minded and maybe he'll come over to our side and he'll understand what we're talking about.

That's not what they're there for.

They are there to harass you.

It's a deliberate technique intended to take your participation and sideline it.

Don't pause

to stop.

Don't do anything.

Just keep you and your friends marching.

Now,

it sounds simple

to decline to engage with morons from Antifa, but it is actually difficult in practice because

they are trained in direct action techniques.

They have studied this.

You haven't.

They have studied direct action techniques.

They can get police officers who are really well trained, just a snap.

And police officers have been trained in direct action techniques.

They know what Antifa is doing.

They're prepared mentally for it.

It could catch you off guard.

Don't let it.

Don't let it affect you or anyone around you.

And make sure everyone around you is working together.

You grab arms and link arms and you pull each other out of that.

Otherwise, you are going to be the only thing

that the media will show, and it will delegitimize everything you came to support.

Okay, so that's the day before.

Yeah, that's the day before.

And what's interesting about that is obviously you were more warning against a street

battle of some sort because that was just what you thought might happen.

There might be a group protest, the anti-protesters, and then it could start a fight.

They only throw you off.

Only throw you off the scent because

I was in the planning committees.

Right.

But I mean, again,

you are the subject of

the paragraph one subject of a story about the lead insurrectionist podcasters.

And you, the day before January 6th, said to channel your inner Martin Luther King.

Wouldn't it be interesting if you also happened to say it the morning before the January 6th events occurred?

This is the morning of January 6th.

Here's more audio for you.

You have to be able to fight with wisdom.

You have to be able to.

You can't just go out into the streets and cause mayhem.

That is not what Martin Luther King did.

It's not.

You know, and we're missing a lot of Martin Luther King ideas that actually changed the world because it's the same thing that Gandhi did.

But how many of us, how many of us are willing to say,

you know what, I'm no longer putting my money into this product or these people.

I'm not going to do it.

And a real sacrifice.

And when I say a real sacrifice, I mean I'm not going to put my money into, you know, Netflix or I'm not going to put my money into big mobile or whatever it is.

How many are willing to make just that sacrifice for their freedom?

So that's the morning of January 6th from this program.

And

you're saying we should emulate MLK and Gandhi on January 6th.

You're saying that before any of this stuff happens, and they put you in the first paragraph of an insurrectionist article in the New York Times.

Of course.

I praised it.

Yeah.

I praised it the next day, didn't I?

No, you did not.

Do we have enough time for another clip or not?

Because we do have one from January 7th, if we want to go into that.

Go ahead.

When people have lost their jobs,

are living in states where

there's draconian draconian measures.

They've been told to shut their business down

and they've been told to pipe down because you want to kill grandma.

Meanwhile,

people like Cuomo are actually killing grandma and grandpa.

When people have done everything

they can and actually started, in

my example,

Started from the premise that yeah, Donald Trump probably was working with the Russians

Yeah, well if he was doing something he should go to jail and then actually did the work and Found out the exact opposite was true and the more you found out the more you realized The entire government seemed to be in on it

The FBI knew that this was a plan from Clinton.

They knew it

and they did nothing.

And when you expose it, no one goes to jail.

When people feel as though their voice is being silenced,

that even their own representatives from their own party treat them like garbage,

when when they've been called racist bigots,

when they've been called conspiracy theorists over things like the Hunter Biden laptop

that now the press says, oh, I guess there is something there, but we all feel that nothing will ever happen.

What are they supposed to do?

Now, here's, let me make this very clear.

They are not supposed to get violent.

We have a right of free speech, of petitioning our government.

We have a right to demand answers.

But we don't destroy the Capitol.

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If you missed last night's Trump interview on my Wednesday night special, you really missed something great, I think.

Very, very hopeful, positive, looking towards the future.

Stu and I will go over that coming up later in the second half of next hour, go through some of the audio from the Trump interview, but we want to spend one more break here on January 6th and set the record straight.

The House Republicans are wondering why

the Democrats are blocking so many records

related to January 6th, and they're demanding some answers.

Will they get them?

Talk to a guy from Illinois, the congressman from Illinois, Rodney Davis, who is leading the charge.

I have COVID,

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It's weird.

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Yeah, that hit you really hard, right?

Yeah, that hit me really hard.

I mean, I was, I was not, I didn't have my energy back for a couple of weeks.

You know, there's no way on the last COVID I could have done a show.

No way.

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So, anyway, I appreciate your prayers.

It is appreciated.

Now, if anybody can get me some ivermectin, that would be.

Actually, I don't think that works for this new Omicron, does it?

I don't know.

I haven't seen much on that.

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It's fascinating to me that on 9-11,

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Within a week, now we have the worst attack on the Capitol in all of American history, a year ago today,

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we still don't have any idea what's gone on.

We have not found the ring leaders.

I think because there weren't any ringleaders,

they're still talking about we're going to prosecute everyone to the fullest extent, even if they were just at the Capitol walking around.

Nobody's been charged with insurrection or sedition.

So what's really going on here?

And how is it that a year later we still don't know?

And why is it that Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats are not releasing the tapes and any kind of record leading up to January 6th.

We're going to talk to a guy who's demanding that answer from Nancy Pelosi and others, and he's in Congress himself from Illinois.

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So we have Rodney Davis on with us.

He's a congressman from Illinois.

He has just written

a strongly worded letter, which I've always loved when it comes to the United Nations.

But I don't know if he's going to get any answers on this.

I hope he does.

He's written a letter to Nancy Pelosi, and he's here to tell us the answers he's demanding along with other Republicans.

Congressman, how are you, sir?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet, you bet.

Okay, so what are the things you're asking for in this letter from Nancy Pelosi?

Well, number one, Glenn, you know, Republicans condemned the violence that took place a year ago.

That was unanimous.

But here we are today, still left wondering, what did the sergeant-at-arms of of the house, the lead, the lead law enforcement official appointed directly by the speaker, what did he do in preparation leading up to January 6th?

There has been conflicting testimony, and all I've ever asked for as the lead Republican on the Respective Oversight Committee is just to get the communications.

We want to know what preparations were made.

And the only person standing in the way of us getting the communications from her own appointee who controls the House security operations is Speaker Pelosi.

Okay, so you're not asking for anything special.

You sit on the oversight committee.

You are the lead opposition.

So you, of course, are going to ask for these things.

You've just asked for

the emails and the transmissions back and forth on preparations for January 6th.

Now, I've talked to Donald Trump.

He said that he offered the National Guard to Washington.

I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said but he said he was turned down nancy pelosi did did they turn help down

well that's what we don't know and and it's ironic glenn that you've got you u.s citizens who no longer work for government volunteering to turn over thousands of communications texts emails letters etc to the january 6th select committee but speaker pelosi will not even turn over the communications of her own appointee who's in charge of security on the House side of the Capitol.

And he's a government employee.

He was.

The current government employee that she appoints will also not turn that information over to us.

The question is, what is she hiding?

And we can get a lot of answers based on conflicting testimony in front of the Senate investigation almost, you know, just under a year ago.

And we ought to be able to get the answers because the American people deserve to know why the security posture was so bad.

And And frankly, Glenn, I don't think it's any better today if we were to go through another event like we did.

I don't think so either.

I mean,

unless you're coming in disguised as COVID.

Congressman, let me ask you,

are you going to be able to get any of these answers?

I mean, it seems that bad people do bad things all over the country now, and nobody's ever held accountable.

Is there any teeth that can be engaged to get the Speaker to comply?

Unfortunately, the House is a very majority-driven institution.

And remember, the Capitol Police Chief cannot make a single security decision without going to Speaker Pelosi's appointed sergeant-at-arms.

That's her own political appointee.

You know what I'm going to get this information?

It's when I'm the chairman of the House Administration Committee when Republicans take over Congress in in November of 2022.

And I have laid out that I am serious.

I want all of these communications at that time.

And if they are destroyed or they no longer exist when I get there, I will hold as chairman of the House Admin Committee anyone who's responsible for that criminally accountable.

And you will be able to do that.

Absolutely, I will.

And I dare them to

try and not preserve those communications.

And I dare them to test me on that.

So, Congressman, explain what the end game here is.

I mean, I just can't figure out unless they really, truly believe they're going to have power till the end of time.

This is all going to come out at some point.

What is the end game here that you think they're playing?

I wish I could get into their minds and find out what their end games are, but all they do is play political games.

And this is where the speaker likes to deflect that

she has no jurisdiction over the Capitol Security.

We all know that's BS.

Her own legislative counsel, general counsel, is the one that's telling the sergeant-at-arms that he cannot turn this information over to us after conflicting testimony in the Senate between then sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving and then Police Chief Steve Son, who are no longer in their jobs.

The current sergeant-at-arms will not turn this over.

Their end game is to delay and deflect.

And then when we do take the majority, my goal is to make sure that we get the answers we need because my job as the lead Republican on this House admin committee and as the future chairman of that committee is to make sure the security posture of the Capitol never fails again.

Congressman, I was

I talked to the president last night, did an interview with him,

and I gave him a list of all of the agencies that need to be cleared out from top to bottom.

And it's going to take enormous courage to clean this nest of vipers out.

And

it's going to take partners to do it as well.

The

people that have power, all that anyone wants, I think both Republican and Democrat, all that people want is that if you actually did something, that you pay a price.

Like I have no problem with people who broke into the Capitol, did damage, or whatever.

I have no problem charging them and having them go to jail for a few months.

Not political, but because they broke other laws.

The same needs to go for the people in Congress.

Do you believe the Republicans have the spine and the cleanliness, if you will, to be able to take this up against them?

You know, I can't speak for anybody else in Congress except for myself, Gwen, and I can tell you that I will do everything within the power of my committee as the chair of the House Admin Committee to hold them criminally accountable, especially if they do not abide by our preservation request.

So yes, I do believe the Republicans as a whole can hold the Democrats accountable, but I can only do what my job is, and my job on this particular committee is to make sure that the capital is safe.

And also when we take over, I'll I'll make sure the Capitol is open again so that people and student groups can come back and see what the Capitol and the entire complex is all about.

One last question.

I don't know if you have the answer to this or looked into it.

We can't seem to get any information.

It's like Gitmo.

We can't seem to get any real information from anybody about how many people

are still being held that haven't been either charged or tried.

We don't know the conditions that these people are living in who were arrested last year.

Is there any way to get that information?

Well,

yes, when we take over the House and we have Chairman Jim Jordan of the Judiciary Committee, we have Chairman Jamie Comer of the Oversight Committee, and me on House Administration, you know what we're going to do?

We're going to ask for those officials responsible for what we've seen even the judicial branch say, hang on a second, something's not right here at the D.C.

prison facility.

We're going to have to have them come in and testify.

The Democrats don't want to hear from them.

And remember, the only office that has been declared off limits for this January 6th Select Committee is Nancy Pelosi's office.

When you look at

the Capitol Police, it is run by Nancy Pelosi.

It is a it's it's the tool, if you will, or the police force for the House majority leader.

I cannot think of a reason why our founders did it that way.

Maybe they just trusted that, you know, people would always be on the up and up.

But do you have any idea what's going on with the Capitol Police and their new approach to being an intelligence arm of our government?

Well, the intelligence division of the Capitol Police is one of the main divisions that failed leading up to January 6th.

Evidence clearly shows that they were given direct intelligence from the Norfolk FBI office that said an imminent attack on the Capitol may be forthcoming.

The police chief of the Capitol Police at the time didn't even have that intelligence.

I spoke with him the day after and multiple days after.

And this is a problem that has yet to be fixed, in my opinion.

But here's what

that Capitol Police chief can't make security decisions on his own.

It's got to go through the political appointee, the sergeant-at-arms.

One last question.

Should the Capitol Police be something that could be FOIA?

Because

we can't even have a Freedom of Information Act that they respond to because they fall into a different category that is controlled by the the Speaker of the House.

I don't think that's good for the Republicans or the Democrats or Independents to ever have that.

Should this police force be able to be FOIA?

Well, you know what?

I'm glad you brought that up, Glenn, because long before January 6th, when I took over as a leader public on the House Administration Committee, I introduced a bill to reform the processes that the Capitol Police follow, make them more transparent, make them more accountable.

And I did not get that bill even in one committee hearing or be able to have one markup of it, be able to debate the need to open up and make the Capitol Police more transparent.

And I'll do that as the chairman.

Representative Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois.

Rodney, when you become the chairman, you call me and I will do everything I can to rally the troops to make sure you can change this with the Capitol Police.

I think with them being a secretive operation, it is a very, very dangerous thing to the Republic.

So thank you so much for your hard work.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

Take care.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

Rodney Davis, Congressman from Illinois.

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I'm going to let you kind of take the reins here a bit, and I'll sit back a little bit.

But we want to talk about Donald Trump, the interview that happened last night.

I thought it was an exceptional interview.

And I'm not saying that because I did it.

I think it was exceptional because Donald Trump, his answers were hopeful and clear.

Yeah, I think we're going to play some of the audio here of that in just a few minutes and kind of go through

what he was

going on about because your focus there was very much on the future and what what is coming next.

There's an article in Rolling Stone today.

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From wind power killing all your birds to fake California gas prices, Trump talks everything but January 6th in the Glenn Beck interview.

Which is fascinating.

Of course, you said multiple times on the air that you were not asking him about that because you didn't want to rehash the past.

You were going into the future.

They may have missed those shows, though.

Yeah.

Well, I will tell tell you, my producers wrote up a bunch of questions for January 6th, and I decided beforehand,

you know, to have them just in case I wanted to go there.

But I really wanted to focus on the future, and I was hoping that I would get a few extra minutes at the end that we could tag on

on that, but didn't think it was even necessary.

You know, the right and the left look at January 6th very differently.

I don't like the way that Donald Trump handled January 6th,

but

I don't think he plotted it.

I don't think he planned it.

I don't think he wanted people to be hung in the streets or anything like that.

That's just not who he is.

But

they can harp on it all they want.

I think America is much more interested in looking to who is going to lead us to the next level here.

Yeah, I think that's what people are looking forward to.

Now, look,

I think there's interesting things

on January 6th that we still need to learn.

We were just talking to the congressman about what those things might be.

What information don't we have?

And I think in a real

world with a real civilized, competent government, there could be

a real

use for a committee of sorts to look into the events of January 6th, to learn things that would actually help us prevent the next type, of next riot that might happen in the future.

You know, all my money would be on it, it's coming from the left, but whoever it's coming from, I would want to prevent it.

And if we had an actual, competent, honest government to look into these things, there could be value there.

The problem is that that is not what we're looking at now.

That's not what we're looking at at all.

You know, there is no reason to look at the investigation of January 6th and come to the conclusion that it's anything other than politics.

And I think it's been clear since the beginning

that

the left wants to turn January 6th into a date that we memorialize like we memorialize September 11th.

That we can look at every year, we can rehash these events and we can memorialize them and think about all the bad things that have happened and every person on the right who is at fault for it.

And the people who are responsible for the bad things and the crimes that went on absolutely should be held accountable.

You know, look, we're conservatives here.

We're the ones that don't want bottles bashing off the side of police officers' heads.

We're the ones that complain about that stuff.

You look at the footage from January 6th, and you can find a lot of examples of people doing things, particularly to police officers, that are completely unacceptable to any conservative I've ever spoken to in my entire life.

Now, I cannot say the same for every liberal.

I cannot say the same for people like Colin Kaepernick, who wears socks,

you know, calling police officers pigs.

The left has been saying you can do all sorts of terrible things to police officers.

I've never heard anyone on the right say things like that.

And I think that's why January 6th was so shocking.

Some of that stuff did go on and it was completely unacceptable when it did.

But you can overstate what happened on January 6th just like you can understate it.

And we have to make sure we get that balance correct.

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There were important things that happened on January 6th.

We've talked at length about them, but there are other things to talk about.

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But like the other information we've had about Omicron, it does seem to be considerably less terrible than his previous bout with COVID that he had back at the end of 2020.

The interview went into some of the stuff surrounding COVID, particularly Anthony Fauci, how to think about him, how to think about his time in the Trump administration, and where we should go from here.

Here's Glenn and Trump talking about Anthony Fauci.

I think when

this was coming out of China, it was perfectly reasonable to shut everything down because we didn't know.

They were welding people into their homes in China.

We had no idea, and they weren't being opened.

And by the way, they weld them in, and they never opened them, and that was the end of them.

Fauci,

I wanted to give everybody the benefit of the doubt in those early days.

We have done a ton of research.

I did one of the biggest chalkboards I think I've ever done.

They were using federal government money to do

Wuhan.

Yeah, and Wuhan.

I stopped it.

I was the one that stopped it.

Well,

you did, but I don't think Fauci cared about that.

Fauci's now claiming he's science.

Did you ever, did you ever

Would he still be working for you today?

No, not now, but he's a great promoter.

He's not a great doctor, but he's a great promoter.

But you have to understand, everything he wanted, I didn't do.

As an example, he wanted to keep it open to China.

He ultimately was wrong about that, and admitted it, and admitted that I saved tens of thousands of lives.

He wanted to keep it open.

I saw what was happening in Italy and France and Spain.

And I closed it to Europe very early.

You know, in China, it was January I closed it.

And in Europe, it was shortly thereafter.

We saved thousands and thousands of lives.

He wanted to do that.

And then his big one of them all is

the masks are useless.

They don't mean anything.

And then all of a sudden, he wants you to wear 10 masks.

You know, wear as many as you can.

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Cover your ears.

Do everything.

So I didn't really do much of what he said.

And

he wasn't a big factor for me, in a sense, because of that.

It's always important to cover your ears with your mask.

Always remember that Anthony Pauci told you that.

It's an important thing to remember as we go through this Omicron wave.

Now, of course, Joe Biden promised he was going to come in and not shut down the country, but shut down the virus.

That obviously has not occurred.

A gigantic failing of what he promised before the election.

However, I don't know if it's his biggest failure.

Perhaps his biggest failure was Afghanistan.

And Glenn talked to former President Trump about that as well.

In 18 months, not one American soldier was killed.

And I wanted to get out more than anybody, you know that.

I got it down to 2,500 soldiers.

We were going to take everything out.

All the equipment was starting.

And I said, I don't want to leave a nail, a screw, a bolt, a tank, a plane.

Everything comes out.

Even the tents that we used as the hangars, they said, sir, it's cheaper to leave it.

I said, we're taking everything.

And we were going to keep Bagram.

Very important, because Bagram bombed the other five places.

And I said, bomb them from air, use it as practice.

But we're keeping Bagram because it's right next to China, one hour away from where they make nuclear weapons.

And to watch these people give up everything, and now China is occupying Bagram.

I mean, an absolute, an absolute disgrace.

Joe Biden has been on that.

And I think people forget about it because there's a new one every single week.

One of the other big stories of the past year has been the rise of conservatives in particular, but people from all across the political spectrum understanding what's going on with our education system.

We obviously saw the big election results in Virginia that highlighted that perhaps to a level that we hadn't seen in quite a long time when it comes to education.

Glenn also asked about what we should be doing with education going forward with former President Trump.

Is it time to get rid of the Department of Education and give the schools back to the states and to the parents?

So I wanted to do that.

We would have done that, or we would have done a very big form of it.

You have people in Washington, D.C.

that don't even care about the kids.

They're bureaucrats, they're working in Washington, and they're telling people in Iowa, and they're telling people in Idaho and in other places, faraway places, where every place is different.

They're telling them exactly what they're going to study.

You don't need that.

There should be a little coordination, like you have to learn English, you have to have some basic math.

But what they were doing was terrible.

And then what happened is it started getting into the whole cancel culture thing and all of the different things that you've been reading about, which is totally true.

What they were doing, it's totally true.

You know,

they tried to say, yeah, with the Yunkin race, which was very good, which we helped them a lot.

It would have been a big, I'll tell you what, that would have been a terrible result if we didn't.

But that was a good race.

And people really saw what was happening with the schools.

So I think it's a great thing to get the heck out of Washington.

You know, some of these states do a great, terrific job.

They can't move because of the federal government.

They can't do what they want to do.

And look at where we stand internationally.

We spend three times more for education per student than any other country in the world.

And we're in 38th place.

It's terrible.

So you give it back to the states where the states, and some of these states will do a fantastic job.

Not all of them.

You have some that are badly run themselves.

They're not going to do so well.

But you'll you'll have states that are doing a phenomenal job.

They'll be doing a job like Norway, like Sweden.

I hate to say this, like China.

So we are here on January 6th, and

we all know that the January 6th media sort of tale here is about how

Republicans and Trump supporters believe the election was stolen and they ransacked the Capitol.

That is just the new

theft of the election narrative that we're getting from

the media.

The old one was that the election really was stolen, but that election was 2016.

As we know, of course,

the Trump administration and the incoming Trump campaign worked closely with Vladimir Putin to arrange the election in 2016 so that our hero, Hillary Clinton, would be denied to be the first female president of the United States.

That was at least what we were told for multiple years.

Now I guess that's in the background.

But Trump was asked by Glenn about Russia, about Putin, and what is the really important thing we should be thinking about when we're talking about

a global situation that does seem to be on the brink of all sorts of trouble.

Here is Glenn talking to President Trump about Vladimir Putin.

One of the first things that Joe Biden did was to stop the Keystone pipeline and then say to Russia, you can build your pipeline.

That's something that Reagan, forever we've been saying, don't do that.

Poland begged him.

Ukraine begged him.

Don't do that.

You had...

I stopped it.

You had stopped it.

It was done.

Correct.

If you would have done that, people would have said, see, there's Jesus.

He's friends with Putin.

He loves Putin.

It's like crazy.

I watched, this is being taped in, what is it, November or December,

and it would be airing in January.

But I think it was this week, I watched Putin look at Joe Biden.

I didn't see respect or fear.

from him, a fear of the United States or respect for the United States.

True.

You know Putin.

you know how he thinks, you know how to deal with him.

Is he going to move into Ukraine, do you think?

Well, it's looking like that.

You know, when Biden told him about, well, he was talking about sanctions, when Biden says sanctions, Putin's saying, sanctions, if they're only going to sanction, then there's no sanction that's going to stop me from taking over a country.

And by the way, it's a massive piece of land in an unbelievable location.

You know that.

But he didn't say there could be be very serious consequence.

A sanction is not a serious consequence, no matter how strong it is.

Not when it comes to taking over a country.

And there was no fear.

One of the things that has been interesting about the reaction to this interview from Blaze TV subscribers and people who have listened to the interview in its entirety is that it was able to bring them back to optimism a little bit.

I think the last year, I mean, certainly the last couple of years have been really tough on so many people.

And especially for conservatives going into a Biden administration where it seems we are just in a non-stop catastrophe.

Every single issue this guy puts his fingers on turns to garbage.

And it's hard for the American people to look at that and have any hope for the future.

Glenn asked him about this a little bit and kind of starts talking about how we're going to deal with energy.

But I think the hope of the future is is really the overarching,

I don't know, the unifying theory of this particular interview.

You can get the entire thing at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

Here's Glenn back with President Trump.

Are we going to be in three years

in trouble if our banks are putting the small gas oil fracking coal people out and fundamentally changing the structure for green energy?

can we recover from that quickly?

No.

Because the green energy is not strong enough to fire up those plants.

I'm saying though, let's just pretend that you're going to be president in three years.

Can we turn this around

and get on track?

Quickly.

Quickly.

We can.

Yeah, we can.

I mean, we have to have optimism, and this is more than optimism, this is fact.

We were energy independent 11 months ago, totally energy independent.

And now we're going to OPEC to beg them for oil.

We're going to OPEC Saudi Arabia, Russia.

We're going to Russia.

We're making Russia so rich.

You know, when I ended the pipeline in Russia, everyone said, oh, I'm so nice to Russia.

I got along great with Putin and with President Xi and with all of them.

But there was never anybody tough like I was on that.

And with the tariffs on China, we took in billions and billions of dollars.

and frankly brought a lot of businesses back home because it no longer made sense for them to do things in China.

But when they did the pipeline, and look at Russia, their primary thing is oil and the cost.

What we're doing is we're making them rich.

It's interesting that Donald Trump did not seem to have a problem entertaining the idea that he might be president in three years.

Didn't push back on that one at all.

The entire interview, it's about an hour.

It's available at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

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And you can kind of take the entire thing in, and really they go over pretty much every single issue

dealing with the future, looking forward.

The Rolling Stone today, as I mentioned, is all upset that Glenn didn't ask him about January 6th.

Well, I mean, what are we getting out of that?

What's the point of that?

The point is not to look back and rehash every single argument from last year or five years ago or 10 years ago.

The much more important thing is to look forward and see where this country can go in the future, whether that's under President Trump or somebody else.

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It is January 6th.

There's no need to downplay what was wrong with that date, and there was a lot wrong.

140 officers were injured or assaulted on that day.

But as we look at this and we look at the grand scheme of things, it's impossible to take seriously that the left cares about that.

They never care about police officers being assaulted.

This is just not in their DNA.

In the George Floyd riots, 2,037

Police officers were assaulted or injured.

2,037 in the George Floyd riots, 140 in the Capitol Capitol riots.

It does not mean we downplay what happened at the Capitol.

That was bad.

But we should also not downplay, minimize, memory-hole what happened during the George Floyd riots.

Both were terrible.

There were 710 arrests at the Capitol.

However, there was 16,241 arrests when it comes around the George Floyd

riots.

Almost all of those people

had their charges dropped.

Not the case with the Capitol riots.

The damage is, of course, about $1.5 million at the Capitol and about $2 billion

when it comes to the George Floyd riots.

Both events were bad.

Both events were problematic.

They had different impacts and different symbolism attached to them.

But both should be rejected.

This sort of activity is always wrong.

And we know that.

I don't know that the left does, though.

This is the Glenn Back Program.