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This is it.

Last show of the year.

Welcome to today's podcast.

You're listening to

the best of the blend back program.

Well, it's the holiday.

This is the last broadcast I'll be doing before the holidays.

And, you know, we've usually

that means when we go on vacation, but Pat is here with me.

Hi, Pat.

Hi, Glenn.

Usually that means we screw off and we don't get anything done.

But we are dedicated to you.

And

so none of that's going to be happening.

I wanted to go through some of the news.

And as a surprise guest,

is Carl the Elf.

Hi, Carl.

Hey, Glenn, how are you?

I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty good.

It's a surprise to have you here in the studio.

I didn't know that you would

make it.

You literally scheduled me to come in here.

I thought elves were all about magic.

Yeah, it's not magic.

Waking me up early for a very long commute.

Okay.

Your commute was long?

Yeah, the North Freaking full.

I don't know.

Yes, I have it, but at least it wasn't congested.

Okay, Carl.

Yeah.

I just have to do some news with

Pat, if you just want to join us for this.

Have you heard, Pat, that Joe Biden has warned of a winter of severe illness and death?

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Well, that's Merry Christmas, everybody.

Merry Christmas.

Are you sure that wasn't you?

Is he listening to this show?

Is that what's going on?

President Biden said yesterday that Americans unvaccinated against the coronavirus are facing a winter of severe illness and death, which is, you know, the kind of the fun stuff that you like to hear from the president.

Yeah, it's good that the Republicans are the fear mongers, right?

Right.

Right.

Carl,

are you vaccinated?

Nah.

You're not?

Nah.

I mean, look, I'm begging for death at this point.

Yeah.

You're begging for death.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

Are you guys slaves to build toys all year?

I am.

I know what that life is like.

I didn't.

It sucks.

Yeah, I didn't think you were slaves.

I mean, you're up there in the North Pole.

You're always...

seemingly very happy.

Well, I guess you could call it indentured servitude that doesn't end.

There's another way of looking at it if you want to

make the holidays nice and warm.

Okay, all right.

Well,

thank you for chiming in on that.

Here's the next story.

And I hate to bring this to you, you know, so close to Christmas, but the FDA is going to permanently allow abortion pills by mail.

This is coming from the New York Times.

They have lifted all the restrictions that would make the abortion medication more accessible.

19 states have already banned telemedicine visit for abortion pills.

And so women are going to have to travel to get their mail, I guess, in other states.

Wasn't that long ago that you couldn't get RU-486 anywhere in the United States of America.

You're going to be able to get them in junior-high vending machines.

Right.

Yes.

They'll have them.

Good.

Excuse me.

Well, I mean, look, the mail, whatever.

Yeah, the post office might be bringing you some abortion pills, but we've been delivering these things for a long time.

I've been hitting up the ladies with abortion pills off the sleigh.

I kind of got a backroom sort of dealing operation, if you want to call it that.

I think this is probably not something Santa would.

Why are you for abortion?

I'm a little, well, first of all, I'm a little pissed off the post office is cutting into my business, but

I am for abortion for one simple reason.

And I know women's choice is something we can all agree on.

But

sounds sarcastic, Carl.

Look, I don't care about women's choice.

What I care about is less toys to build.

The more abortion pills I drop off as a jolly old elf means I gotta make less etch sketches.

That's what it means to me.

Right.

You know,

I look,

you know, this is why I don't get disappointed in your COVID reporting.

You know, if Frouchie's right,

you know, I've got basically, I'm taking March off, and that's what I'm looking at.

March and April, I might be off from making toys.

So there are

too many people for you.

Too many kids.

Yeah, I mean, how many do we need?

You know, four, four or five, I think, would be, would it be okay?

Per family.

No, total.

I think.

Look, how many do we need?

Eventually, if you have five,

maybe one of them, you know, something happens at some point.

So you got four left, and that's enough to propagate the species.

At some point, I believe elves should take over the whole situation anyway.

You know, why, why, you know, you humans, like, you're doing a good job running things?

Have you looked around lately?

Well, but you don't seem like you're carrying a well, neither does Joe Biden, but you don't seem to be carrying a happy message, one that we all want to get behind.

What year do you think this is?

It's 2021 back.

Right.

It is, we haven't had, it's been a non-stop catastrophe for how many years?

Well, but look at what you guys are doing.

You,

you full-sizers down there

have been screwing up this planet.

You've got disease spreading all over the place.

Everybody's aborting each other.

I mean, look, everything you've done

screwed up this

world.

And what have we tried to do?

Make it a happy place.

And our efforts of bringing you, you know, little rocking horses isn't working.

Like, you guys suck.

So you think the little rocking horses used to work?

That's what.

Yeah, at one point it made it like, you know, you had a decent place to live.

Things were going relatively well.

And we'd bring you, you know, I don't know, some stupid toy to make the kids smile for five minutes.

Now, they're basically gonna, you know,

you know, we're teaching them that the color of their skin is the most important thing about.

So, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait.

So, when was it great here?

I just, I just want to hear because, you know,

you seem to have rose-colored glasses on.

When was it really, really great?

Where everybody had nice houses and,

you know, were happy.

You trying to, is this gotcha journalism?

Are you trying to, if I say a year, you're going to tell me the worst thing about that year and then that was the thing I was rooting for?

Well, but I mean when when was that?

I mean, you know, things have been bad for quite some time.

I'll tell you when the good times are in the future when people like you are gone.

That's when we'll be celebrating.

We will be dancing and dancing at the North Pole at that point.

You seem to be almost somebody who likes eugenics.

eugenics huh yeah yeah uh that's that's not my thing you're the one that's basically in the nazi party uh i i'm not talking about eugenics i'm just because i mean that's you were talking about giving abortion pills to kids and i mean and you know and and you're remembering things i remember remember kids you know used to have polio and everything else

yeah no that's true there there was some polio stuff we used to root for that

we were like pro pro-polio up at the North Pole.

Well, yeah, because, you know, there was a time

when it seemed like, you know, we were not going to be able to get abortion pills through the mail.

Now,

it's a lot easier to wipe these kids out.

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

So you were,

were you behind polio?

I don't want to say behind it.

I mean, I was part of an effort.

To what?

to create polio.

I didn't know that the elves were part of the creation of polio.

When is our vacation?

I know your vacation is coming up after this show.

Yeah.

When is my vacation?

My vacation is nowhere because kids keep coming.

There's more and more of them.

I want none of them anymore.

So

they're all sticky.

Their hands have like, they've been like eating a a candy cane, and then they get the residue on their hands, and everything's sticky.

And I just look, I want a vacation, and this is the way I can get it.

Have you thought about maybe asking Santa for a vacation as opposed to killing all the kids?

Oh, you mean the guy who's imprisoned me for a thousand years?

I don't know.

Carl the Elf.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Carl the Elf.

Gosh, it's too bad he can't stay.

This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

Steve Dace,

Blaze TV show host, the Steve Day Show, which follows this program every day on the Blaze TV Radio and Television Network.

Steve, how are you, sir?

Good morning to you guys.

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thanks for having me, brother.

Are you in the Christmas mood?

You probably are.

I've been in a Christmas mood since, well, I'm a Christmas flap,

and I've been in a Christmas mood since about three seconds after Halloween.

That's when Christmas begins for me, November.

I'm usually that way.

I'm just, I don't know.

We've had so many bad things happen with our family.

I'm going on vacation, and I just don't believe it.

I won't believe it until I'm back.

Because I said to everybody, nobody's answering the phones.

No phones.

No internet.

Everyone, the entire United States could burn to the ground, and no one is to recognize it until we are off of vacation.

Amen.

Sounds like you have teenagers.

Yes, I do.

My wife said to me, I had a dream last night.

She woke up and she said today,

I had this weirdest dream.

I dreamt that we had a lion in the house.

And I said, we do.

It's called our teenager.

But anyway, Steve, you have a new book out, Do What You Believe, or you won't be free to believe it much longer.

Tell me about it.

The last year,

you know, on our show here on Blaze TV, we kind of have a theme for the show every year.

And the theme for our show this year was that the answer is us, that if we want to turn around the direction of this, just sitting around and waiting to vote ourselves out of it isn't going to be sufficient.

And we're going to have to learn some of the old arts of resistance and non-compliance and civil disobedience that the founding generations of the country perfected in order to found us.

And what's transpired as the year has gone on, and it's become more and more clear that the political system,

unless you happen to be governed by Ron DeSantis or a handful of other people, is largely ineffective or unwilling to confront the authoritarianism that is beyond creeping now.

It's a shadow that is threatening to overtake us, is we're going to have to do this.

And you've seen it recently.

I mean, just a few months ago, the airlines, Southwestern American Airlines, were facing unprecedented shutdowns and cancellations because of pilots and employees refusing to go along with their jab mandates.

And now those CEOs are now saying, we shouldn't even be wearing masks on a plane anymore.

It's amazing how the turntables here in a few days.

Right?

Yeah.

You look at the Justice Smollett, the Kyle Rittenhouse cases.

Those are cases where in our current political media industrial complex, the truth was unattainable to achieve.

Yet, when facts and evidences are presented to regular people that are sober-minded and not filtered through those mechanisms, suddenly we get to a place of truth and justice.

And I think that shows that really the answer we're looking for here are people who understand where their rights come from, which is God.

We understand

that America, as Chesterton said, is the only country ever founded upon a creed.

And that ultimately stop waiting for some magic savior with an R after his name to show up and outsource your citizenship to him or her, but to take these matters peaceably but confrontationally into our own hands with the mechanisms we have.

And that's what our book lays out is a battle plan for doing exactly that.

Yeah, some of the chapters, first we have to correct some stink and think in the Declaration of Independence, choose this day the inconvenient truth about America, which is what?

That we're far worse off than we think.

That what transpired the last year and a half didn't break or wreck anything.

It's a harvest of things that were already broken and wrecked.

So that the forces that want to really undo, what we're really talking about here is the unraveling and undoing of Western civilization.

You know, I'm really essentially.

Go ahead.

Go, go, go.

No, I mean, that, which has essentially been

a 500 post-reformational

understanding of the world in the Judeo-Christian context of how to conduct human affairs, where rights come from, where good and evil come from, who defines that, what institutions are in charge of such endeavors, the role of family, etc.

What we're really up against is a complete and total unraveling of that.

That's why a lot of the theories and morals that the opposition articulates that they call progressive, they're not progressive.

This is paganism.

This is a pre-Judeo-Christian understanding of the world.

And they're really regressive.

They want to take us back to the dark ages, all right, so that even things like gender distinctions are all but gone and erased.

And

those are the stakes we're playing for here.

And it's not as if we just got up one day and we're like, holy cow, how did we get to this place?

We were actually creeping to this place for a long time.

We were complacent.

We did not confront it.

And now we're in the position now where it's here, it's spectacular, and it has us cornered.

That's the inconvenient truth.

So,

you know, I've been worried about this for a while.

You know, if you look back at Germany, Germany lost all of its

icons, all of the, you know, even the eagle of Germany was lost in the 20s, and it was lost for about 10 to 15 years.

Then Hitler came in and he twisted all of those symbols.

So the iron eagle came back, but it wasn't the same.

And I kind of feel like this is happening to us in real time.

We are slowly forgetting everything.

We're living our life in such a way now, because of COVID, in many places, we would have never...

We would have never thought we would do this.

Now we're just doing it and we don't even notice it anymore.

It's just kind of like, yeah, that's the way life is.

That's very dangerous.

See, this is why what you just described is why we have this phenomenon right now with people like Dave Chappelle, with people like Bill Maher,

with people like Andrew Sullivan.

I mean, Andrew Sullivan's the Bill Buckley of the gay rights movement.

It was its first respected celebrity intellectual.

He can't get booked on CNN or MSNBC anymore.

Why?

Because if you go read half of Andrew Sullivan's Twitter feed every day, about half of it is stuff I would tweet.

And I'm the guy that puts the fun in fundamentalism, okay?

Because

what happened is a lot of the old liberals thought that they were just freeing themselves from our gods.

Yes.

Okay.

And what they're learning is that the new leftist actually all along intended to introduce the new gods instead.

Okay?

So, no, you're not going to free your conscience from the mandates, the biblical, the mandates of the Ten Commandments or what the Bible preaches or traditional Judeo-Christian understanding.

We're actually just removing those restraints so we can put the new restraints in instead.

So you really didn't get rid of some form of what you viewed as theocratic authoritarianism.

You actually just set the stage and helped us bring in real theocratic authoritarianism.

It's just all going to be that the power emanates from the state.

And this is why we're now finding some strange bedfellows from some of these old liberals who are like, wait a minute, I thought I had a right to my own conscience.

And it was really those Christians and those and those conservative Jews who were stopping me from fully actualizing that.

And now what they're learning is, you don't have a right to your own conscience.

At least with us, we were willing to argue with you how far your right to conscience could go, but that you at least had one.

With the new left, you don't have those rights anymore.

You must comply.

There is no individuality.

It's why Dave Rubin's not gay anymore.

He might as well change his name to Donald Trump, okay?

It's why Jason Whitlock's not black anymore.

He might as well change his name to Steve Bass or Glenn Beck, because it's not about any of those identities we were sold before.

It was about a means to an end to use those things in order to deconstruct the old ways so we could introduce to you the new one.

So that's why it's so important to me that we're reaching out.

I just did an interview with Andrew Yang.

There's a lot I disagree with Andrew Yang on.

There's a lot I agree with him on.

And these intellectuals that have had been part of this movement to the left, they're now saying, whoa, whoa, whoa,

uh-uh, not here.

I agree with the Bill of Rights.

These are the people now finally coming to the table that we can disagree with and

not have to round

one side or the other up in the end.

And I think it's really important that we welcome this diversity to the right because there, you want to talk about a very small tent.

It's the left.

I agree because I also don't think that the traditional political Venn diagram is applicable at the moment.

We aren't having

an argument about the direction of the country.

We're having an argument about whether to have a country.

What is a border?

What is a citizen?

What's a boy?

What's a girl?

What's a team?

What's a law?

What's anything?

We're up against a movement that really transcends politics.

It is a rival religion.

And it behaves in very cultic ways.

That's why there's not a lot of critical thinking, but a lot of group thinking with talking points instead.

It's what I've kind of dubbed on my show, to use an old stained glass window term.

I call it the spirit of the age.

And that's why there's so much zealotry, so much fervor.

That's why they seethe a lot.

These people that are caught up in this, sadly, when they speak to you, that they can't critically think or reason with you.

It's because they have given up on reason and have essentially just glommed onto a cultic spirit of the age that they think is ultimate truth, is a form of salvation.

This is absolutely spiritual.

And that's why, you know,

we run a great promotion for our colleague, Allie Stuckey, on our commercials here on Blaze TV.

And she keeps saying this line, I always hear her say, these people, they absolutely think they're the good guys.

They do.

They think that they're here to deliver us, that we're the ones that are misbegotten, that

we are the troglodytes here, unevolved.

And so, this idea that there could be a national divorce and our states go their way and their state.

No, no, no, no, folks.

They think that they need to save us from going our own way.

And so, that's why what we're really talking about now is authoritarianism versus liberty.

That's really the paradigm now.

And that's why there is ability for us to work with people that we have a whole host of disagreements on.

And I don't plan on changing my mind on most of those things anytime soon.

But right now, we're having a fight, Glenn.

am i entitled to have my own mind see that that is the thing that you know i i keep starting in uh conversations with people that i know i'm going to disagree with with this do you believe in the bill of rights as written

you give me nine of those you know first ten do you agree with the bill of rights if you do then all we're usually talking about are policies and that's normal it goes back to you saying you know know, what is a law?

What is a nation?

What is a border?

If you understand the Bill of Rights, that gave us the playing field.

And it gave us, this is all out of bounds.

Well, nothing is out of bounds right now.

And I'm, you know,

I can argue policies, but we are not talking about those now.

It's not really about spending.

It's about, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You are spending and building a structure for an entirely different system, and you're not including us in it.

That's exactly right.

This isn't political, it's spiritual, and it's not cultural, it's existential.

This is a completely new, fundamentally new way of life.

Yes, it is.

And this is the end of Mel Gibson's apocalypto, and neither side can agree on who the savages are.

Okay?

So one belief system,

it's a worldview steel cage match now.

Two of them have entered.

only one of them is coming out and either we are going to be permitted the luxury of going back to those culture war political issues that that we thought at the time were existential and you know so serious and now we've reached a whole different meta level and realize kind of seems pretty trite compared to what we're talking about now either we're going to be afforded the luxury of returning to that political paradigm and then being angry at the Andrew Yangs of the world again, or we're not going to to have a country.

Those are really the stakes.

So, Steve,

if you would have talked to me two months ago, I would have been very, very pessimistic.

Then Afghanistan happened, and I saw people stand up.

Then the school boards started to be flipped.

Now people are starting to say, you know, shut up, Fauci.

I'm starting to see that spirit of America come back.

Are you optimistic?

I'm optimistic.

I'm more optimistic.

I don't know.

I'm a total depravity kind of guy, so I don't know that I'm ever actually optimistic, okay?

But

I am more optimistic than I was a few months ago.

Yes.

That I do think that

here's how I would define it.

We don't have as many people

as we probably need, but we have more people right now, but we have more people than the system can tolerate at the same time.

And so that's where we can build a groundswell of momentum here.

And I think there's a window here that we can use things like mass resistance, non-compliance.

New York State right now, I believe, has 40 of 62 counties that are refusing to enforce or implement the new governor's attempt to return to COVID standards

mandates.

Fantastic.

See, that's what we're talking about is who they can issue all the decrees that they want.

The school board doesn't have a sergeant-at-arms.

OSHA with the jab mandate doesn't have police officers that they can come arrest you if your company won't enforce it.

If enough people refuse to comply, these things become unenforceable.

They're trying to impose these things through infrastructures that don't have enforcement mechanisms.

They've just relied on us to go along with it.

And we need to show them that it will be painful for you to try to inflict these things on us, that this pain will not be a one-sided transaction any longer.

Just like you want to inflict pain on us, we will return the pain on you for trying to inflict it.

Steve Dace, Blaze TV host, Steve Dace Show follows this program every day.

He is the author of The Faucian Bargain and the author of Do What You Believe or You Won't Be Free to Believe It Much Longer.

This is what he's been talking about, this new book that is out now.

Steve Dace, thank you so much.

Talk to you again.

You got guys again.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas.

Thank you.

You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.

I just want you to be on high alert.

In fact,

I think it warrants the duct tape alert because what you are about to hear will honestly just

could make your head explode.

But you might pray for that.

So maybe you don't wrap your head in duct tape.

Biden is now warning, and I quote, of a winter of severe illness and death.

End quote.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

I mean, these guys just won't give up on their fear-mongering.

And I think, like to make a prediction,

by the end of the year, and I think it's going to happen sooner rather than later because it already is, but America is just going to start mocking.

I mean, universally, mocking these warnings, mocking these people.

And they're just going to be like, yeah, really?

Got to wear a gotta wear a mask, huh?

Not gonna do it.

By the end of the year, meaning in like just a couple of weeks, are you saying in 2020?

In 2022.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's coming.

Here's what I'm already saying to them.

ABCDEFU.

That's what I'm already saying.

Really?

Really?

Really?

And mom and your sister and your job.

Are you quoting?

Broke ass car.

That stuff you call art.

Are you guys familiar with this song?

It was number one in the country last year.

Yeah, but I didn't think I would hear it from you

of all people.

I never thought I would quote a song like that either, but this is probably the song your kids are listening to and you don't know.

Do we have a piece of it edited?

You, any mom, any sister, any job, any broke-ass car, and that's

car.

F you, any friends that I'll never see again.

Everybody but your daughter.

I swear I'm once you made the best one and

did even shot.

It's a good song.

It's super catchy.

As a programmer, strictly as a guy who used to,

a music guy who used to program top 40 stations, I would have this in what was called power rotation out of the box.

You'd hand it to me, I'd put it in, I'd listen, I go,

every 90 minutes.

Every 90 minutes.

Every 90 minutes.

It is a.

It's a smash hit.

It's not only a smash hit, it is an anthem.

It's an anthem.

And

those happen

occasionally, rarely, but it is an anthem that becomes a movement of the age.

You and your mom and your sister and your top and your broke ass car and your

car.

You and your friends that I'll never see again.

Everybody but your dog.

You can all fing wash and cross.

Nice stuff.

They spared the dog, too.

I feel good that they spare the dog.

Yeah, she spared the dog.

Spared the dog.

It's something you can just powerfully relate to, I guess.

It is.

And I wish you couldn't.

I wish I couldn't.

But

you can see the appeal.

Wait,

you're singing it.

It's your like Pat Gray's anthem?

I thought you were saying it was good.

It just feels good.

No, it just feels good.

That's my anthem.

I could quickly adopt that as my anthem.

Oh, big time.

Yeah.

Big time.

And your kids have got

not that I want them to, or they should be.

This is what they're listening to.

But that's what they're listening to.

They're listening to that, and you don't know it, and they would never sing it around you.

But I guarantee you, they know everyone.

They're singing to all their friends, and they're screaming it in the car when they're not with you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's weird.

We were at a place where,

like, I didn't like the,

let me put it this way.

I like the Brandon chant

much better than what that, what it means.

Yes, I, as a parent of two small kids, going to sporting events and hearing the actual chant associated with Let's Go Brandon over and over again.

It was not fun.

I did not appreciate that.

I like Let's Go Brandon much more.

But I think society, I mean, Pat, you remember me in the day

before I sobered up and changed and found the Lord and everything else.

It was an art form.

The F-word was an art form.

You know, I could say...

It came up a few times in conversation.

Yeah, and I could pretty much

talk about anything

and

probably more F-words in it than actual other words, and you'd still understand exactly what I was talking about.

I feel like I wasted all of those years.

Well, maybe I was just a pioneer because everybody is talking like that now.

Yeah.

Doesn't it seem like that?

Yeah.

Like you hear that everywhere.

Yeah.

Everywhere.

Seems like we're just getting dumber and dumber as a society.

And I think that's, it's like, what was it?

The idiocracy,

the

movie that predicted the future blatantly.

But everyone kind of breathes and gets dumber and dumber over time.

And then that's how they talk all the time.

All they're doing is swearing and

it's just constant insults.

But there is nothing better at times, at times, than that word.

It just.

word is an effective word.

It's a very effective word.

There are only a couple of words that are more effective

that they don't get into songs all that often.

Yeah, right.

You know, but it's kind of like it's becoming almost like the C word in England.

Like in England, it doesn't mean what we think it means.

Right.

The C word.

Yeah.

Do we all understand the right C word?

Because I know there's lots of C words we're not supposed to say.

Yeah, C is the one you got to stay away from the most, seems like.

Hang on just a second.

I'm getting it from my Scottish friend.

Is it only Scotland?

So, in England, does it mean the same thing that it does here?

Means the same in England, not in Scotland.

And I know this because

the guy who is my assistant is Scottish, and

he was having a conversation with his now wife,

but they were dating, and he

called her that.

And she was like,

What?

and he was like what what's the problem

Didn't go well

didn't go well

does it mean like uh you know idiot right

can he just

let me see him at least I know he doesn't want to be on the microphone, but does it mean idiot?

Is that a proposal?

What does it mean?

Open his mic.

Go ahead.

What's it mean?

It's just a friendlier way of saying, yeah, that idiot over there.

A friendlier way of saying that idiot

doesn't seem seem friendly, but yeah, and it, I mean, it doesn't seem like idiot either.

Yeah.

That's how we use it.

I mean, we use it in all

questions in anybody.

Oh, I see over there.

Yeah, I know, I know.

And,

and, you know,

when I, cause I, you know, I, you know, I watch the BBC a lot because I think the BBC is, no, it's not necessarily better.

Well, yes, it is.

But it's just that it doesn't have any American politics in it.

It's got loads of British, but I don't care if they burn to the ground.

So it's like, yeah, that's funny.

Yeah, but it's interesting.

Like over there,

and they have a word for cigarette as well that means something else over here

that occasionally makes it into those shows.

And it's jarring because you just don't hear it in any kind of thing.

And especially because it's usually preceded, one a drag off of,

and you're like, no, no, no, I'm good.

Thank you for that.

I was watching, I've been watching The Wire, the show on HBO that aired in the early 2000s.

Yeah.

Basically, based off Jason Whitlock's recommendation.

Because I've heard, obviously, I've heard of The Wire, and it's one of the most renowned shows of all time.

And he was saying it's his favorite show of all time.

And so he kind of talked me into going through it.

And it's very good.

But what's interesting about it is there,

it's about drug dealing in the streets of Baltimore in the early 2000s.

And they, like, particularly the anti-gay slur is all over the place, like,

crazy.

And, like, it's, it's interesting, just in that time, that has gone from a word that was just continually used in pop culture, not necessarily in a positive way, like, hey, these guys are good for using this word.

I mean, they're bad characters, but like, it was just in there all the time.

And you go back at, you know, there's episodes of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia that just have the N-word in them.

Straight out N-word said full.

Like, it's so shocking that, like, that's, that's happened pretty fast.

Really fast.

Well, but it is, it is, to me, it has always been shocking because, you know, Pat and I came from music radio.

That stuff was in rap all the time.

All the time.

All the time.

And so it was,

to me, it was always shocking to hear it in music.

And then it was just weird that you could hear it in music, still can, hear it in music, hear it in, you know, with, you know, half of the population or what is it?

20% of the population being free with it, just throwing it out anywhere and can.

And everybody else is like, like, okay, that's really a bad word.

It's just weird.

It developed in a very strange way.

There's that controversy that happened around here in Texas with supposed racism in high schools.

And it was what was kind of the basis of the recent CRT stuff that happened here.

Where the teenage girls were singing the lyrics of a rap song.

Yeah.

And that was part of, you know, the criticism of this town and that like the white girls were singing the actual lyrics of this song.

No criticism levied at the artist

for recording the song this way.

No one said, hey, maybe don't put it in the song that you know is going to attract young people who may not be able to decipher the ins and outs and nuances of how this word is supposed to be used.

No criticism to them for making millions of dollars off the word, but let's criticize the high school kids for just singing along to lyrics of a song that Universal or some other big company is making millions of dollars off of.

Remember when I stood up for Don Imus

against Al Sharpton?

Because Al Sharpton, I mean,

Don just said some things he shouldn't have said, but it's by far not worse than what's in rap songs.

Oh, God.

And I'm talking to Al Sharpton.

I'm like,

when are you going to talk to the record companies?

When are you going to boycott them?

And the answer, of course, is never.

He actually did.

Oh, he did?

He did say he would do it.

And he did.

He did.

I went and marched with him.

I said, I'm not going to.

I said, you're not going to going to do it.

He said, yes, I will.

And I said, you know what?

Then I'll show up with my cameras and I'll be there to cover it.

I don't agree with it, but I will, I will cover it and I'll be there.

And I walked out.

He'd had a march and I walked around the corner and he was there, you know, with a block full of people.

And one of the guards was like, no, no, no, no.

And Sharpton said, no.

Come here.

And he looked at me like I was an alien, like you're here.

And I said, of course I told you I would be.

I said, I can't believe that you are doing this.

And he said, well, I told you I would.

And I said, yeah.

But there was a time where that was a position of

race activists, right?

That everyone should get rid of the N-word.

It should not just be the same.

You know, I don't know if anybody knows this.

It kind of goes to all men are created equal.

I mean, we should all be playing by the same rules.

We should all be playing by the same rules.

That's old school.

What you're saying is old school.

Who was the rap star?

Was it Drake that invited the white girl up on stage to sing one of his songs with him?

She sang the word and then he berated her for it.

Really?

What?

Yeah.

What are your songs, man?

I'm just singing the lyrics.

What am I?

Do you

put N-word in there in place of it?

Kendrick Lamar, I'm being told it was.

Not Drake.

All right.

But still, that's a.

That's insane.

I hope she went away going, you're a total psycho.

I would think so.

Well, how about when in the uh Jesse Smollett trial, they were reading the texts and they and Jesse Smollett said the lawyer, the white lawyer, couldn't read Jussie's text because the N-word was used in the text.

Jeez.

Requoting texts in a legal trial.

Hang on just a second.

Let's just all enjoy for a second the holiday season

and knowing that Jesse Smollett is going to go to jail.

Yeah, there you go.

Yes, it's a good.

It's like chestnuts roasting on an open fire, you know, it just feels good.