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Hello, America, from the Middle East.

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So, and it's Friday, and yesterday was such a colossally bad day.

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From the Middle East,

where we have been trying all week to get Christians out of Kabul,

I can't give you an update today.

Things have been so chaotic since last night.

Last word, we had 5,100 Christians and refugees out.

We're trying now, we're in another phase, kind of looking for a land bridge.

But there are other people that are trapped at the airport, not on the tarmac.

I think we have cleared all those.

We have repositioned the airplanes that have been working for the Nazarene Fund.

And I have to tell you, the teamwork on the ground is absolutely phenomenal.

I want to make it really, really clear that it is not just us that

is doing all of this by any stretch of the imagination we are working with so many different groups and I will talk about that a little later on and how you can help

but I I first

I just want a super shout out to President Joe Biden who

is

the worst president And he may, in my, you know, if you've listened to this program,

I

hate Woodrow Wilson.

Hate him

with all the intensity of a white-hot son.

Maybe, as Pat would say, a thousand white-hot sons.

I think that Joe Biden may surpass him as the worst president of all time.

Last night in the speech, I just, I want to go over a, I don't know, just a couple of things.

First, let's start with his message to ISIS K.

To those who carried out this attack,

as well as anyone who wishes America harm, know this.

We will not forgive.

We will not forgive

yet.

We will hunt you down and make you pay.

Okay, all right.

Okay, stop, stop, stop.

I just, I have a couple of questions.

We'll never forgive.

Great Christian message there for you.

But he wants to talk about ISIS-K, ISIS-K, not the Taliban, because of course the Taliban, they're helping us.

And their big enemy is, you know,

ISIS-K.

It's like special K, but it doesn't come in a box.

Wish it did.

If I were president, all of them would be coming in a box.

But ISIS-K is against the Taliban, and the Taliban has been protecting us.

Bull freaking crap.

That is not

true.

You are going to hear this bullcrap that ISIS is

against the Taliban and the Taliban is so nice and they're just trying to protect us and they're guarding the gate.

That's bullcrap.

All of that is PR bull crap.

These guys do hate each other.

But have you heard an idea in the Middle East called the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

They'll try to blow each other up very soon, but first they want to kill and humiliate us.

So

don't even start with this was ISIS-K because you don't know

who it was.

And by the way, let's say it was...

I'm sorry, there were three Taliban checkpoints before you got to the main gate where our checkpoint was.

Is the Taliban, they're so super good, they're so reliable and so good and so able to beat us, but they couldn't recognize suicide bombs when they saw them through three separate checkpoints?

Now the last point on this one.

We're going to hunt you down and we're going to make you pay.

Well, maybe that's true after we ship them probably a billion dollars on the airport and just leave it there like we did with Iran.

But how are we going to hunt them down?

Joe, how are we going to do that?

And this is kind of an interesting one because people are like, oh, we'll just bomb them.

We'll just have a drone up in the sky and we'll just drone them to death.

Hmm, will we?

Well, first of all, let's just remind you that they now

have more blackhawks.

The Taliban has more blackhawks than 85% 85% of the world.

Don't worry about it.

They're cave dwellers with black hawks.

Now, the second thing,

usually you need some sort of an intelligence network to be able to find out on the ground who did it.

Unless we're just going to take the Taliban's word for it,

because I know they're so trustworthy.

We have no connections on the ground.

If we did,

none of them trust us anymore.

None of them would ever work with us.

We probably actually made people want to help the Taliban and blow us up the way we have betrayed them.

There won't be a Middle Eastern contact for as far as the eye can see.

So, what intelligence network are you going to use, Joe, to find out who did that and where they are?

This guy is a moron.

A moron.

When a guy like me can figure this out,

you are a special kind of moron.

Now, let's go to cut two.

The military recommended something.

Did you personally reject a recommendation to hold or to recapture Bagram Air Force Base?

Here's what I've done.

Let's

answer the last question first.

On the tactical questions of how to conduct an evacuation or a war,

I gather up

all the major military personnel that are in Afghanistan, the commanders, as well as the Pentagon.

And I ask for their best military judgment

what

would be the most efficient efficient way to accomplish the mission?

They concluded, the military,

that Bagram

was not

much value added, that it was much wiser.

Wow.

And so I followed that recommendation.

Stop.

Remember, he takes full responsibility, but he asked the Pentagon, how do we do it?

He said earlier in the speech, I asked them three times today if they needed something and they said no.

Oh,

well, that's taken full responsibility for it.

I take full responsibility.

I asked them and they said they didn't need my help at all.

They didn't want anything else.

Uh-huh.

Does that include them saying, this is a colossally bad idea?

We shouldn't do it, Mr.

President.

And then you saying, no, but we're going to do it anyway.

Okay.

What's it going to take?

Well, I don't know because this is going to be a disaster.

But the good thing is, we have a huge air base there in the country that we could use for air support.

No, no, no.

Instead,

the Pentagon said,

What do you say we get rid of the airbase?

Let's get...

There's no use for an airbase here.

There's no strategic value for this airbase.

That's why

when we first started the war, we built that gigantic airbase because there was no strategic use for it at all.

When will the Pentagon stand up and say, that's bullcrap?

Now, maybe,

maybe the people running the Pentagon are that stupid, but the military's certainly not.

Let me ask a Marine friend of mine Jason Buttrill who is here with me in the Middle East because all of us watching last night almost burst a blood vessel when we saw him say certain things

your thoughts Jason on the president

just heeding the advice of the generals and the Pentagon and saying yeah there's no strategic use for us to have that airbase well for one I thought that he was just following Trump's plan.

So I thought all these plans were already drawn up by the Trump people.

So why are they even discussing altering it in the first place?

That's for one.

So this is a total shock to me

for that.

Two, there's no way.

There's just absolutely no way the military would have said, hey, let's just abandon Bongram Air Base before we finish the full evacuation.

Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

You don't take assets off the table.

You just, just to cover your own ass, you're like, no, no, no, let's just leave that alone.

We'll take those guys out last.

Just to cover your own ass, you do that.

Right.

And just for like geographical reference, Bagram Air Base is right above Kabul.

So

it's within striking distance of Kabul.

So if you are going to, let's say, ferry troops back and forth, if you need to put troops, let's say by some wild stretch of the imagination that you botched the withdrawal.

And the Taliban rolled into Kabul last minute and no one thought that, oh, that did happen.

Okay.

Well, then no worries because you have Bagram Air Base there, because then you can pull in additional assets to secure the area.

But, oh, they abandoned Bagram Air Base.

So none of this from a military strategic

perspective makes any sense whatsoever.

So what does that tell you?

It was all political.

So politics has been driving this evacuation from day one.

You know, in a situation like this, in a military situation like this, the situation drives your timeline.

Now, the Biden administration has been doing it exactly the opposite way.

The timeline has been driving the situation, which makes no sense whatsoever.

They're looking at their timeline to say, oh, we're going to make our decisions based off of this, this, this, and this.

No, in any other military situation, period, you're looking at the situation and you're adjusting your timeline off of that.

None of this makes sense whatsoever.

You know, you want to see somebody that was honorable on taking responsibility.

That would be Eisenhower and, quite honestly, George W.

Bush.

George W.

Bush took the heat.

I was in his office when he called me and

actually he didn't, but his people called me.

I said, you want something to impeach this president over?

We were talking about the border.

This,

this is where you find something impeachable of this president.

And that that night driving home from CNN,

I'll never forget.

I'm driving, I pick up the cell phone, it's a 212 number

or 202 number, and they say,

I pick it up, Mr.

Beck, the president would like to see you in the Oval on Thursday and at 11 o'clock.

And I didn't know what to do.

I was just like,

okay, let me check.

And I just held the phone out away from my face, like, what the hell?

What do I?

Okay, I'm good.

and so i went and um

he was a different person than you saw on television he knew the names of everybody who had been killed or injured that he had personally called that morning and it was around 11 o'clock 11 30 when he told the story and he was crystal clear on the name he he said the names of the people he called

And he talked about assets that we had in the war, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I said to him, no offense, Mr.

President, but this is the guy that we need to see on television.

And he said, you can't, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But the point of this story is that he said to me,

it's my decision.

I told the military, you have whatever you want.

We're not going to do this Vietnam style.

So I will take the heat.

And they said to me, fine, just please don't make

the death toll numbers coming from the White House all the time, because that's what killed us last time.

And he said, fine, I won't.

And he said, there are so many times that I want to tell the American people good news, but I can't.

And I know I'm going to look bad, maybe for the next 50 years, but I'm going to take the responsibility because I made that promise.

That's taking responsibility.

This guy is, no, I told them what I wanted to do and then they did it.

And look how it's turning out, which, by the way, in the same breath, I'm going to say is fantastic.

And I should be praised for how it's being, how it's turned or turned out.

It's just the military, Donald Trump, and anybody else's fault, not mine.

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Stu, can you verify for me that all of the questions were submitted in advance last night?

I've heard that.

I don't have it confirmed, but I have heard that.

I've heard that too, and I'd like that confirmed if we can.

I've heard that they were all

questions were submitted in advance.

And, you know, when he got up and he said, okay, I've been told I've got to start with,

Mr.

President, I don't know if all the presidents are told, you know, hey, you might want to start with this.

You have to stop saying that because you look like an absolute puppet of somebody.

Stop saying that.

Or here's an idea.

Don't do it.

Be your own man.

Pull up your big boy pants.

When he spoke to Peter Doocy,

it was the most incredible, unpresidential thing I've ever seen.

Here's the question.

Hey, let me take the one question from the most interesting guy that I know in the press.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Slam.

That's you.

Mr.

President, there had not been a U.S.

service member killed in combat in Afghanistan since February of 2020.

You set a deadline, you pulled troops out, you sent troops back in, and now 12 Marines are dead.

You said the buck stops with you.

Do you bear any responsibility for the way that things have unfolded in the last two weeks?

Now, listen.

I bear responsibility for fundamentally all that's happened of late.

But here's the deal.

You know,

I wish you'd one day say these things.

You know, as well as I do

that a former president made a deal with the Taliban,

that he would get all American forces out of Afghanistan by May 1.

In return, the commitment was made, and that was a year before.

In return, he was given a commitment that the Taliban would continue to attack others, but would not attack any American forces.

Remember that?

I'm being serious.

No, I'm asking you a question.

Because before.

No, no, no, wait a minute.

I'm asking you a question.

Is that accurate, the best of your knowledge?

Now he puts his face down into his hands.

Pulling out of having to say that

he's like defeated.

Which is a thing for him, I think.

They have an issue that

people

are likely to get hurt.

Some, as we've seen, have gotten killed.

And that it is messy.

The reason why, whether my friend will acknowledge it, always reported it.

The reason why there were no attacks on Americans, as you said, from the date until I came into office, was because the commitment was made by President Trump.

I will be out by May 1st.

In the meantime, so how does that make any sense at all?

Then why did they start attacking us now?

Wait, then why didn't you just do what President Trump was doing?

Why did they start, why did we have the third deadliest day of a 20-year 20-year war yesterday doesn't make any sense but he's all jello and oatmeal in the head

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Glenn Beck is in the Middle East.

And Pat Gray is here with me in the studio in Texas.

Pat, welcome to the program.

Thank you.

I am not in the Middle East.

No, no.

I'm not at any location in a bunker anywhere.

Though I will say, you walking around the Middle East, you'd blend in perfectly.

I mean, you...

Yes.

No one would even say that.

No, it would.

That's right.

That's right.

Is that an American?

Why would you say that?

He doesn't look American.

Right.

So give me your reaction on

the catastrophe that is going on

in Afghanistan.

I think it's absolutely the worst catastrophe in American history, military-wise.

Militaristically, I think this is the worst thing that has ever happened.

I can't think of a worse situation than this.

In a way, that's like we've had really bad battles against really strong foes, and lots of people have died.

That's different than this.

Way different than this.

This leaves you with absolutely

no confidence in this administration to be able to fend off any sort of threat or

communicate with any of our allies or

do anything foreign policy-wise that

any normal president can do.

It's pretty definitive, but true.

Yeah,

he's so bad.

He is so incompetent.

He is so cognitively

gone that he's just, he's not capable.

I don't think he's capable of getting anything done right.

To put it gently, neither of us wanted Joe Biden to be president of the the United States.

That's putting it very gently.

Very gently.

Neither one of us thought he would do a good job.

Right, but this goes way beyond what I thought.

I feel the same way.

I struggle to even express it.

I'm flabbergasted at how incompetent and terrible this has been.

And one of the things I keep coming back to was he was pitched by him, by his team, by the media, as this moderate, pragmatic guy who's going to come in and he's not going to be crazy leftist and he's going to do to look at what's going on and react to it in a smart in a pragmatic way

and what instead we've had is almost the presidency of bernie sanders in a way like he is so ideologically committed to ideas like i'm going to pull everyone out by august 31st that it doesn't matter how many people are in danger why he's pushing right through it why that arbitrary date why

there's absolutely no reason to stick to it.

You just chose it out of the air.

Right.

And you said we're going to leave by August 31st.

And now you're sticking to it for what reason?

Right.

And I've said all along: look,

I'm in favor of leaving Afghanistan, or at least I was.

I'm not now.

We should not be leaving under these circumstances.

Right.

We shouldn't.

We should go back,

finish the job, kill the Taliban and this ISIS-K.

The new variant?

Yes, the new variant.

The new variant of ISIS.

And then, and then, once things have settled down, then

you pull out the right way.

But, I mean, it's bungled so badly that there's just, I don't think there's any fixing it now.

I don't think I've ever seen a worse collection of excuses that they've tried to trot out to me.

Oh, my gosh.

This idea that they're blaming Trump, which is, again, Trump's deadline was May 1st.

Right.

So why weren't you out there up by then?

Then they decided to change it, right?

Because they thought, because of, I guess, the conditions on the ground, they were going to change it.

That's not Trump's fault.

That's your fault.

Right.

And if you knew the deadline was May 1st, obviously the day to start

evacuating people is like February 1st.

Yeah.

It's the day you took office.

Yeah, the issue.

February 20th.

Exactly.

It's one of the first actions you would take as president in a sane environment.

Instead, they didn't do that.

They waited till after May 1st to even begin pulling people out.

And then

they totally mismanage the departure.

They abandon multiple air bases for an airlift.

I mean, this is, these are not tough questions.

Yeah, but Grom should never, never have been closed.

No.

And I think that there's a reason to believe that that is the mid-ground here between pulling out and

we used to use this term all the time, cutting and running.

I mean, that's, how do you not use the term?

That is exactly what we're doing in in the Middle East.

We are.

And

there's an idea to keep some troops on Bagram.

It gives you an opportunity to respond.

It's

as easy a place to defend as possible.

And, you know, maybe you're not even getting involved in every Taliban versus Afghan government little squabble, but if something gets out of control, we have some assets there to be able to do something.

That's a rational midpoint between an ongoing war forever and this.

Yeah.

But even this, even just leaving could have been done in such a different way.

And we left him $85 billion worth of equipment.

Unbelievable.

$85 billion.

That's

unthinkable.

It's just unthinkable what we've done.

Think of all the BS anti-Second Amendment stuff you hear from Democrats here in the United States.

We left the Taliban with 600,000 machine weapons.

Yeah.

600,000.

600,000 machine guns and and small arms.

It's like,

why didn't we take those with us?

I mean, that's not, you don't just leave that.

Like when you leave your house, you're moving.

There's a whole bunch of little things left and you're really bugged because I don't want to pick up the pens that are in this junk drawer and stuff.

It's like when you leave that, it's like, yeah, we left all these

M80s and the AR-15s.

And we just don't want to pick those up.

How do you do that?

How do you do that?

Now, I guess, like, in theory, right, the Afghan military has them and they're using them to fight back, but here's my pitch.

The self-destruct button.

Every weapon we give to some foreign military comes with a self-destruct button.

Thank you.

And when we decide, oh, the Taliban has it, we just press the button and it blows up or at least disables itself, right?

Why on earth?

Does this continue to happen to us?

And now we've taken a group of people who did not have lots of weapons and we've made them into one of the most well-armed militaries in the world.

And I don't have the list in front of me, but I was talking this morning about this not being his only debacle either.

This is the biggest.

I mean, it's obviously one of the biggest in American history.

But then you've got his debacle on the border, too, which is almost equally bad.

Right.

And again, I go back to the point I was making earlier.

He's acting as a profoundly ideological president, right?

Bernie Sanders, if he was president and

there were problems on the border, would not act to to send more border guards or tighten the rules because he's ideologically in favor of people crossing that border whenever the hell they want.

Right?

That's how Biden is acting.

The same thing with spending.

I mean, like, a Democratic president that was rational might look at, wow, look at all this inflation.

Maybe this isn't the time to spend $4.7 trillion more dollars.

And you'd think Joe Biden would be the type of president that would say, if he was, as he was pitched, as this moderate, pragmatic guy, that would say, okay, look, let's not do 4.7.

Let's do just the infrastructure bill for now.

We can't add all these programs right now.

Look at the inflation.

It's killing people.

And instead, he just powers through it.

In Afghanistan, the same thing.

It's because of that ideology that they won't fix this situation in Afghanistan, too.

They won't.

What they should do is get right back in and finish the job.

Glenn?

I will tell you that

I think we're going to find in time that there are other reasons why

they exited like this.

And I think it's China, rare earth minerals, or pipelines or something else.

There's something else behind just

him wanting to get out.

It makes no sense,

unless you're just trying to destroy the nation and all of our credibility with all of our allies.

But I think

there's something else to this.

The point is, I think, my question would be, if your plan was to destroy the nation and kill kill all of our allies and do all these terrible things, what would you change about Biden's plan?

Nothing.

You just actually wouldn't do anything.

Nothing.

You know, what's amazing is there is a clear pattern here.

He opens up the border, and

because of that, the people that are coming across our border are taken by drug cartels and coyotes.

They're raped.

They're

sold into slavery, and they're killed by those people, and we do nothing.

And then he closes the airport and because of that, people are taken, the people that are left are taken and they're raped, sold into slavery or killed.

What's the difference?

He's helping the Taliban and ISIS and he's helping the drug cartels on the border.

He's clearly has a different

agenda or

a very different opinion on I think things are going well.

He keeps saying that, and I hate to quote the Princess Bride, but I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

I just, I don't know, I don't know how

you wonder, you know, there was a moment last week where I thought to myself, Joe Biden is really putting the future of his presidency, not to mention how many lives in the military, in the hands of the Taliban, right?

If the Taliban decides to change this, screw up security, let somebody through, even if it's just a mistake,

his presidency is on the line here.

I mean, we've already seen an approval rating at 41%.

One poll has just come in at 41%, which is 20 points off where he started, and he's eight months in.

I mean, what is he going to be able to get done?

His entire legacy.

And this is a side point to obviously the much more important thing of people's lives, but

he let it rest with the Taliban.

Think of that.

Just the decision-making behind that is incredible.

But you'll notice what Nancy Pelosi is doing.

Nancy Pelosi and Congress are doing everything they can just to move forward.

Remember when we were all during 2008 and we were all trying to figure out what Barack Obama was doing?

And I said, when we got the TARP bill, I said, look at this.

Look at how big this thing is.

There's machinery in here.

And they're building a machine.

And that's the same thing that's happening right now.

They don't care what he does in Afghanistan.

They don't care how badly it goes.

They just are going to keep pushing these things through because remember, they're building an administrative state.

So it won't matter what the elected president wants to do or not, because it's all going to be run through an administrator that that you're never going to be able to get out.

You're just, you're just, it's going to be

administrators that are entrenched.

That's what happened with Donald Trump.

He went against that

administrative state, and they killed him for it.

I mean, they just slaughtered him.

Well,

what do you think is going to happen?

If there's any criminal misdeeds that are going on now because of this, do you think the Justice Department is ever going to find it?

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You know, one of the things that struck me from Biden's speech yesterday was sort of the reversal of how we got into this at the beginning.

Back in the day, George W.

Bush, we had a series of events.

A terrorist attack, followed by a speech, we're going to come hunt you down.

And then we went in and hunted them down.

Biden's sort of taking a remix of that philosophy.

He gets the terrorist attack, then he has the really tough speech about how we're going to hunt you down, and then he leaves in three days.

That's a different, it's a different way to look at things.

Yeah.

Aren't you supposed to, when you say you're going to hunt them down, are you not supposed to stay around and hunt them down?

And why?

Why is he sticking to this arbitrary date?

I don't understand it.

Why?

I think it's because the Taliban has made a red line for us.

Keep people keep saying this is Biden's deadline.

It's the Taliban's deadline.

They are making the rules for us, the United States of America.

They are providing security for us, the United States of America.

Yeah, they've got Taliban checkpoints headed to the airport.

And by the way,

the terrorists went through those checkpoints.

Somehow, I'm sure.

Wow, it's just a...

They faced rigorous security at the Taliban checkpoint.

Sir, are you pregnant?

You seem to have a very large thing on your stomach there.

No, it's my suicide vest.

Okay, come right through it.

Right this way.

See ya.

I mean, this is.

I keep going back and forth between anger and embarrassment.

Right.

It's the only two emotions I can muster at this point.

Bill O'Reilly coming up next.

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Bill O'Reilly joins us now.

Hello, Bill.

Bill, are you there?

We lost Bill O'Reilly to a Beach Boys concert last night.

I think that's where he might still be.

Do you have him on the phone?

Bill, are you there?

I am here, and I am eagerly awaiting the conversation.

Now, can you hear Glenn?

I guess is the more important question.

Glenn, you want to try it?

Can you hear me?

I heard him, you know, in the commercials and stuff like that.

I heard him.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, I'm on now.

Can you hear me, Bill?

Can you hear me?

Fortunately, I can, Beck.

And, you know, every time you speak,

my eyebrows twist.

All right.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

Bill O'Reilly, let's talk about what's happening.

I'm here in the Middle East, and it was an extraordinarily bad day yesterday.

Your take on Afghanistan and the President's speech.

Okay, so the interesting part of this story, and I always try to find a seam

that's not being reported because it's just numbing.

You're lucky you're in the Middle East in a sense.

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Bill, I know you don't want this said, but I said it on Monday.

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earlier this week that you made quite a large donation, and I'm very grateful.

You're a good man.

Thank you.

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I expect you to send me one of those grills at your bum.

Is that the way charity works with you?

I take back.

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Okay, all right.

Okay, so if you watch American television and read the newspapers,

you see the same kind of stuff over and over again.

And

we got it.

But here's really an interesting story.

So, Sky News, which is not a conservative outfit, is based in Britain,

they are excoriating Joe Biden.

I mean, personally, every way.

They're killing him.

And that's because

Biden ignored Great Britain in this whole run-up to the Afghan collapse.

I mean, can you imagine that?

Great Britain has been our partner in the war on terror since 2001, and a good partner.

And Biden didn't even give Johnson a courtesy call that this might happen, even though there are thousands of British citizens subjects in Afghanistan.

Now, what does that tell you?

That tells you that Biden, again,

isn't really in charge of this.

He doesn't know what happened.

May I ask you a question?

Do you remember when you were a kid and you would always say, you know,

you would avoid people on your mom and dad you wouldn't ask them questions where you knew what the answer was going to be from them so you just did it and like oh i didn't think about asking i think that is also a possibility he knew what the rest of the world would say and that's why he didn't take even boris johnson's phone calls for 40 hours

see i disagree a little bit on that um i don't think he knows

i don't think he's capable of that kind of analysis.

I really don't.

And if you look down on every decision he's made in seven months and the unintended consequences of those decisions,

he's not a man who says, if I do this, if I do A, B will happen.

He's not doing that.

He's there in the moment, and people speak to him, and he nods his head, and then 30 minutes later, he doesn't know what they told him.

Because there's no way a president could be this bad, Vic.

I mean, I don't care anymore about people who voted for Joe Biden.

If you still think that was a good vote, then you're a destructive person.

You don't respect or even admire your country at all.

This is a catastrophe in the White House.

This isn't the press trying to kneecap Donald Trump.

This isn't ridiculous tweets back and forth.

This is a genuine catastrophe where people are dying, not only in a farm, but on the southern border.

So

I can't give Joe Biden

such a pass on this because it is his administration, too.

Where is anyone?

Where's the Pentagon saying, come on?

We did not say,

let's get rid of Bagram.

There's no use.

This is not our plan.

This is his plan.

And we're doing the best to execute a plan that we stood against.

Where is anyone, where's Blinken from the State Department, which is responsible for most of what's happening on the ground?

Blinken is Blinken, okay?

That's what he's doing.

Now, listen, I'm not giving Biden a pass.

I don't want anybody to think that.

I'm just telling you the truth.

He's a diminished person.

He cannot make responsible decisions.

And the word cannot

is paramount.

Okay, so your question is

all right.

He can't do it anymore.

But where's the people that are at high levels in the government surrounding him?

Why aren't they correcting him?

Or ringing the bell.

How many times did we hear about

his cabinet was going to

invoke the 25th amendment?

Where are they now?

They don't even know where the bell is.

Okay, these aren't problem solvers.

He didn't hire any problem solvers.

Give me one cabinet person who solved any problem in this country in the last seven months or even offered a solution.

He hires sycophants.

Word of the day, sycophants.

And there are two people in the White House, Clain

and what's her name, the Benghazi woman, okay,

Susan Rice.

Those two people

are calling the shots, okay?

Yes, I agree.

And both of them are incompetent.

So across the river in the Pentagon, you've got General Milley.

Wow, this reminds me of U.S.

Grant and George Patton.

General Milley,

who's filling out forms about LGBTs or something?

I mean, this is a these are sycophants.

These are people who will never go against any Todd.

But now

they're going to snipe out.

But are you telling me there is no one left in a position of authority in any position in the government that won't come out and say, I can't do this.

This is just

what I'm

In the executive branch, that's what I'm telling you.

What about the military?

Totally.

What about what?

What about the military?

Nobody in the Pentagon?

If they were to go against the Commander-in-Chief, they would be sacked.

There's no due process in the military.

They'll move you out in 30 seconds.

So they

shut up.

Now,

you have a total collapse of the executive branch in this country, which is why the Supreme Court every day, and I'm sure you notice this, is saying,

no,

you can't stop the Remain in Mexico policy.

No, you can't stop the eviction.

No,

every day, the Supreme Court is going to Biden, no, you can't do that.

Does anybody notice?

No, because the corporate media doesn't report it.

But let's get back to what's happening now in Afghanistan because this is vital.

So you've got a guy who screws everything up.

It wouldn't have taken any,

and I mean any

assets away for the United States to protect Bagram Air Force Base.

None.

None.

Okay?

Which is ten times larger than the Kabul airport, which has one runway.

One.

Okay, so Bagram, and I was there, all right, is huge.

You don't just abandon it,

no one does that,

but Biden did it because somebody told him to do it.

All right, so so wait, so wait, so let me again go back.

We had Pentagon officials who have disagreed with George W.

Bush, who have disagreed with Donald Trump, and they all came out

on the littlest things and said, you can't do these things.

Where is anyone on the side of the country and the Constitution that has the balls to come out and say,

this is what's really going on?

He is lying to you, and we're destroying ourselves, our military, our image, our entire country is going down in flames.

I don't care if I'm fired.

I don't care.

I cannot be a part of it.

Where are they?

Well, when you choose sycophants

to work at the highest levels of your administration, those aren't courageous people, Beck.

If you're kissing somebody's butt 24-7, you're not a person of courage.

Okay?

Have you seen the Pentagon?

Have you seen the size of the parking lot of the Pentagon?

There's no one there?

No one.

No one at this point.

Now, you're going to start to see...

people undercut Biden because the winds have changed.

That will happen.

But it'll all be anonymous sources.

You know how it goes.

But the most important thing for all people listening to us today is that Biden and

his

clain and Rice

put together the staff, the administration.

They chose who was going to be in charge of the Pentagon, of the Treasury, of the Department of State.

Anthony Blinken.

Are you Blinken kidding me?

I'd rather have my 19-year-old son be Secretary of State.

I mean, at least the kid grasped the issues.

All Blinken does is go, what do you want me to do?

What do you want me to say?

I mean, he's not Pompeo,

and I know this to be true.

Pompeo, former CIA chief, went in to Trump on a number of occasions and says, no, you can't do that.

No, that's not going to work.

Blinken's never going to do that.

Now, he's going to go.

He's done, by the way.

You'll see it in the next two or three weeks because Biden's going to have to offer up some sacrificial people.

But it's too late.

And this is the good news.

There is good news in the story, Beck.

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Bill, give me the good news out of this.

Okay, the good news is Biden's done.

All right, even though he's going to be there physically in the White House, all right, he's finished.

His credibility is shot.

He's not coming back.

Doesn't have the energy to come back or the creativity to come back or the vision to come back.

There's a headline in The Guardian, which is a British publication, which is a piece of garbage.

You know, it's the same, like the Daily Mail, The Guardian, all of this, just throw it in the garbage.

It's just awful.

Here's the headline: Biden is facing his biggest crisis yet, and he will survive.

No, he won't.

Okay?

Because even the dimmest American, even

the person who never pays attention, who doesn't know anything, has heard about the 13 U.S.

military dead yesterday.

Everybody has heard about that.

Okay?

And they all know it did not

have to happen.

That's the key.

That's the headline.

Their deaths were avoidable

because from the beginning of this incredible

screw-up in Afghanistan, the administration under Joe Biden has not done one thing that has worked.

Keep that in mind.

Nothing has worked because they didn't plan it.

There wasn't anybody in charge who really knew the country.

And so when you have that level of incompetence, you're going to go down.

Now, every American knows that.

And the ones that do pay slight attention know the border is a catastrophe.

They know the woke culture is a catastrophe.

They know the progressive left, the socialists are a catastrophe.

And you add it up.

And what has the man done well?

Can you give me one thing, Beck,

that President Biden has done that has helped this country?

He's probably done well sleeping.

Sleeping, sleeping.

He has done nothing good for the country in seven months.

And we have two catastrophes, the border in Afghanistan.

And more to come, by the way.

More to come.

Because now all of our enemies know that he is incapable of running the country.

And they have an opportunity, a window of opportunity, to do whatever evil things they want to do because of him.

So let's then get into the real question.

What the deuce are you going to do about the terrorists who killed the 13 million, the 13

military in Afghanistan?

What are you going to do?

He says he's going to hunt them down, but we don't have

any sources on the ground.

We don't have any sources on the ground.

We don't have anyone that will help us.

Yeah, well, I think Susan Rice ought to be dropped in there, okay, in a little parachute and let her hunt them down.

Hunt them down?

Okay, here's what you do.

You ready for what you do, Beck?

Are you ready?

There are 20 Taliban leaders, 20.

Some of them were in Guantanamo, but because Obama wanted them all released, they were.

He made a trade.

He made a trade for the worst four.

Okay, right.

Okay, so there are 20 of them.

And U.S.

Intel knows pretty much where they live,

where they are.

So all of them die.

All of them.

Not now.

You're still pulling people out of there.

You've got to get them all, as many as you can, out.

But between now and

he's still saying this is ISIS.

He's not going to say that

he's defending the Taliban.

Beck,

the Taliban let more than a thousand hardcore ISIS prisoners out

when they seized Bagram.

I know.

This reporting by CNN going, you know, the Taliban don't really like ISIS.

They're at OMS.

Bull crap.

Yeah, it's just garbage.

It's just a lie.

We pulled out of Bagram, big prison.

All the worst of the worst were there.

That's where they were.

The worst of the worst were in Bagram.

Okay?

We pull out, the next day all the worst of the worst are

you know facing Mecca going hey I'm free who can I kill

who can I kill but anyway you start with the Taliban leadership because they're the reason that the military are dead yeah right but they're not but they're not gonna do it they're not gonna do it I don't even think that Biden knows who the 20 guys are

But if you told him, he wouldn't be able to remember them a half an hour later.

That's my point.

That's how bad this is.

That's how much in jeopardy all Americans are.

Got a guy in charge he doesn't know.

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I want to play two pieces of audio from the speech last night.

The first one really doesn't need a comment,

but this proves Bill O'Reilly right when he says he's not even there enough to understand.

Listen to this.

If

Osama bin Laden,

as well as al-Qaeda,

had chosen to launch an attack when they left Saudi Arabia out of

Yemen,

would we have ever gone to

Afghanistan?

Even though the Taliban completely controlled Afghanistan at the time, would we have ever gone?

I know it's not fair to ask you questions.

It's rhetorical, but raise your hand if you think we should have gone.

I know it's not fair to ask you, and it's rhetorical, but raise your hand.

First of all, you can't re-litigate the past, and that's all that the progressives seem to do.

Here's my question for Bill O'Reilly.

Bill, he says this almost every time, and I know that the president is given a list, but I have heard from last night, and I'd like confirmation on this, that all of the questions were submitted prior to in writing.

Can you tell me, is this just a bad habit, or is there more to when

Joe Biden says things like this?

Ladies and gentlemen, they gave me a list here.

The first person I was instructed to call on was Kelly O'Donnell of NBC.

Bill?

The Biden administration always asked for the questions in advance.

I don't know the compliance level of that.

I give Biden credit for giving Fox News a question yesterday.

You know, I'm sure they did that to forestall any criticism that he wasn't going to take any tough questions.

But it doesn't really matter anymore, Beck, does it?

The White House crest score doesn't matter anymore.

Corporate media doesn't really matter.

And I was happy to see you tout that if people are listening to us now, you're really being deceived by the corporate media.

And if you're still going to

consume it, then that's on you because they're not going to tell you the truth.

Beck, we got you booked on the Nosepin News on Monday.

I don't know whether you'll be back or not.

You know, we want you to be safe, first of all.

But if you are back, we're going to talk about the Nazarene Fund and why you did, what you did.

And then we'll get into Afghanistan, of course.

And

it'll be a large part of the Nosepin News on Monday.

But I'll tell you, the corporate media would never put Glenn Beck on the air.

And that includes Fox News.

Okay?

Well,

I was on with Tucker Carlson last night, but I think that's more of a personal thing.

I'm never invited anywhere else on Fox Team.

Let me ask you that.

I'm glad you were.

I missed it,

but I'm glad you were.

But my point of the matter is that they don't, they being the corporate media, and it extends throughout all you see on television.

They're not interested in the truth anymore.

They're not interested in it.

So now the dilemma that they have and how Americans are being deceived once again is that all of these people, all of them, every single one with the exception of FNC, endorsed Biden and did more than endorse him.

They lied about Trump.

They lied about

January 6th.

They lied about Russian collusion.

They lied about Ukraine.

They lied and lied and lied and lied and lied.

And now they're stuck with the guy that they put up as the champion to bring America back, build back better.

Okay, and this guy obviously is screwing things up to the extent that people are dying.

Okay.

So

when Trump was president, nobody was dying,

but now Biden's president and people are dying all over the place.

And so I'm

go ahead.

Bill, I want to ask you this.

Go back to January and

you won the presidency.

How would you have handled the Afghan situation with the deal that Trump had in place?

What would you have done?

Excellent question.

Excellent question.

And I talked to Trump about this, and that's going to be one of the highlights of the O'Reilly-Trump history tour, which is underway in December.

I want everybody to check that out on billorilly.com because we're going to get answers to questions that nobody has even asked Donald Trump.

But when you take over

a country, as Biden did in January, you have to bring fresh eyes to everything.

That's number one.

So it doesn't really matter what your predecessor did.

But the second that Biden got in,

because the progressives hated Trump so much, he issued 1717 executive orders overturning Trump stuff.

The second he got in.

Okay?

And most of those executive orders have been disastrous.

That border is the best example, but at the pipeline shutdown, all of that just follows.

So, in Afghanistan, you have a situation where the United States went in there

to get al-Qaeda, to destroy al-Qaeda, which it did.

We did.

We destroyed it.

And I'll remind everybody once again that the only cabinet member that was against the bin Laden raid in Pakistan was Joe Biden.

Only one.

Okay.

So then we decided foolishly, to try to take on a medieval society steeped in Sharia law and turn it into California.

Okay?

That's pretty much what we said.

We're going to do this.

They'll all be listening to the Beach Boys when we get through with them.

Okay?

It was foolish.

And everybody has pointed out history has never changed and the country will never change.

It is a tribal nation that is fundamentally Islamic and they're not going to change.

No matter what you do, no matter how much you give them, the majority of people like being fundamentalists and like living in the Middle Ages.

That's the truth.

So we spent all this money, a trillion dollars over a 20-year period, to try to do that.

Didn't work.

We had to get out.

Trump was enraged because he goes, why are we spending all this money?

We're getting nothing out of it.

And that's how Trump thinks.

He's a business guy.

So he, but what Trump did with the Taliban is just what I told you before the break.

He said, said, if you screw around with us while we're trying to get out of there, we're going to kill you.

You!

Okay?

So the Taliban goes, oh, I really don't want to die tomorrow.

And when I say kill you, drones are what is used to wipe these people off the face of the earth.

And that's what I said.

All Biden had to do was tell the 20 Taliban leaders, you screw around

and you're all dead.

Might take a little while, but we'll get you.

That's what Trump did.

But the television said, you know, Biden's not going to do that.

He's not going to say that.

And that's why we have what we have.

So I believe

out.

Most Americans agree with me and you, because I think you're in the same posture.

You can't stay there, you know, odd infinitum.

But you don't have to pull everyone out.

You can have a stable force of 3,000 based in Bagram to make sure that atrocities don't occur.

We're protecting human lives by doing that.

Are we not?

Yes.

Biden,

confident as he is, would not even do that.

Do we have the audio from Canada?

One of the Canadian ministers talking directly to the Taliban.

If we have that, can we play that here?

I want to take this opportunity to speak to our

brothers, the Taliban.

We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country.

We call on you to immediately stop the violence, the genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure, including heritage buildings.

We call on you.

She starts with our brothers,

the Taliban.

Do you think that

Biden,

I'm pretty sure Rice thinks this way, that they actually think that these guys are kind of good guys?

Honorable.

I don't think that.

I don't think so.

You don't.

No.

No.

Then why are they saying that?

Well, I was a Canadian.

Well, no, you had Joe Biden last night saying

Joe Biden made the Taliban into heroes.

They were the ones guarding the gates.

He's trying to kiss their tushes so he can get as many people out.

I understand.

Is there

any doubt in your mind that last night, if Trump were president, if the same situation happened,

our military would have had boots on the ground or drones would have been flying and we would have retaliated strongly immediately?

I'm not sure

because I don't think it's wise to launch military action when you're still trying to pull people out of there.

But I don't, as I said, don't, I know the Taliban wouldn't have done this.

Look, it's as simple as this.

When you do an operation, you have to do the operation methodically.

You've got more than a thousand ISIS prisoners in Bagaram.

That has to be negotiated beforehand.

Does it not?

Does it not?

You got a thousand guys there.

They're all murderers.

And, you know, we got to deal with them.

But it wasn't dealt with.

But

right now, Biden has to, and I emphasize has to, launch military action.

It's a matter of when he does it.

When.

You don't knee-jerk and do it right away because that puts innocent civilians in danger and babies, as you were talking about at the beginning of the program.

But you have to punish them.

You have to.

Now, will he do that?

Can he retain that thought?

I'm expecting that there will be some military action back

because now the Biden administration is on the verge of collapse.

The Biden administration and Afghanistan have something in common.

They're both collapsing.

So Biden's going to have to do something, have to, dramatic, to tell the American people, oh, no, I'm not going to sit by and watch this happen.

So expect that in the next two weeks or so.

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Well, I want you to come on Monday and let me know if you can't, because I think that's an important conversation on the Nosepin News.

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And number three, please, everyone, please pray for your country.

We are in a very bad place right now.

We're in a very, very bad place.

Bill O'Reilly, thank you.

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I'm here in the Middle East in a country that has asked us not to tell you that they are involved in the rescue.

I hope someday they will change their mind on this because they have been truly remarkable at what they've done.

They have led the way and the humanitarian attitude from this country is truly, truly remarkable

and

no problem with Christians or anything else.

And I pray that they will change their mind and let you know, but they they don't want to right now because

of the situation over here.

They think things are going to get much, much, much more dangerous because of what is happening overseas.

Stu, I'm not getting a chance to watch any television that I understand

at all.

I had to listen to the president's speech last night,

and,

you know, I don't know any of the other coverage, and

I keep reading about Nancy Pelosi.

Are the American people seeing Nancy Pelosi now completely out of touch?

Do the Democrats look as bad as I think they do?

Yes.

In fact, I find listening to Pelosi and Biden, I understand it as much as you do watching

television in another language.

I watched a chef at like three o'clock in the morning

making food I didn't even recognize, and everything was in Arabic, and all I know it's a cup of something.

It's a half of something and a quarter of something else plus a lot of other ingredients.

What more do you need to know, really?

I was even watching it.

Yeah.

Yeah, Nancy Pelosi came out yesterday as all of this was going on and wanted to make sure we were talking about equal pay for women.

That was her big contribution.

Yeah, yesterday was the big day for, you know, celebrate women and, you know, women's rights or whatever it was.

And I thought, you're not talking about the women that are dying now in Afghanistan?

Yeah.

That's incredible.

Here's a person talking about, ignoring basically the women

that are in Afghanistan as she's talking about women's rights and also speaking as the Speaker of the House, the third in line to the presidency of the United States as a woman, who is behind the second in line for the presidency, who is also a woman.

It seems to me, though, that if they don't talk about things, then it just kind of goes away.

That's what they did with Hunter Biden.

That's what they do with everything now.

They just don't address it, and then nobody talks about it.

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Somebody that I'm really anxious for you to meet.

In fact, I'm having her on the Friday exclusive tonight to talk a little bit more about Christian persecution all around the world and

what Afghanistan means for Christians around the world, the collapse of this.

She's from the Hudson Institute.

You can find her at hudson.org.

Her name is Nina Shea, and she is a senior fellow.

She's the director of the Center for Religious Freedom, and she has been fighting here to

protect Christians and get them out.

Welcome, Nina.

How are you?

Great to be with you, Glenn, and you're doing such incredible work for your charities on helping these Christians right now in Afghanistan.

And that's what I'm primarily concerned with, as I'm sure you are these days this week,

which may be their last chance.

We have

right now I have about 40 missionaries that

we're trying to get out and some of them have already been beaten with chains and they're in hiding now.

And I mean, I don't know how we're going to get these people out, at least at this time.

Well, that's right.

I'm trying to work with the State Department to get them

involved.

They keep saying that they received the files and we're going to see.

I guess today will be the determining day.

This is

a fateful day for them.

We have one case, Glenn, of a man who's in hiding for a week around the perimeter of the airport because he's so terrified.

He not only worked for the U.S.

government, he's an adult, but since he was 16, but so did his father and his brother.

They're Christians, and the father and brother were killed last week, murdered by the talent

for being

for both of those things, and for working for the U.S.

and for being a Christian.

He fled immediately, his home in Kandahar, and is now in the

periphery of the airport in hiding, waiting to get onto one of your planes.

And I've been told by your team over there that your plane will take him, but they can't get him into the airport.

And so this poor man is in shock.

He cannot leave.

He will not go back to his home.

He will die there if he has to because it's so brutal, as you know.

You know, a woman was shot

in the street because she did not have a burqa on when the Taliban took over.

This is their harsh interpretation of Islamic rule, of their Sharia,

and they show no mercy.

They said, you know, they immediately declared when they took over Afghanistan, Islam has conquered Afghanistan and Islam will rule.

And they erected a white flag with the Islamic profession of faith.

And the problem with them is that they do not recognize the human agency in interpreting God's rule.

They don't recognize that humans apply it and interpret it.

And therefore, it's above criticism or accountability.

And if you dare to suggest reform or moderation, you will be accused of blasphemy or apostasy and put to death.

So that's the basic problem there.

They don't believe any form of democracy.

Let me ask you, can I go back to, are you willing to go in

at all about the

issues with the State Department?

Are you willing to talk about any of those or not?

And I understand.

Yes, yes, no, I am.

There are individuals who are willing to help

within the State Department, and we're working with them.

I'm working with a wonderful member of Congress,

Jeff Fortenberry,

who's an appropriator in Congress, means he is one of the people who control the purse strings of the State Department, so they do have to listen to him.

He's from Nebraska, and he's been advocating for us.

But so far, we haven't gotten to square one.

We haven't gotten them into the airport so they can take your plane or some other plane or a US plane.

And some of them are eligible for US planes as well.

But the State Department has a policy right now of not letting in Afghan civilians.

And

they are focused on the political,

I think, that they don't want to say

the President doesn't want to say that

they left any American behind.

So they're trying to just focus on that and shut out the people that have supported us, that have worked with us, who are going to be killed, either for their future.

Here's the amazing thing is they don't have to do anything.

You know, our organization has people in the airport with the airplanes.

Other organizations have people outside the gates that want to come in or they're going and gathering these people and then bringing them.

I mean, we've all really been playing nicely with each other.

All of these charities are, it's like nobody cares about credit and we're all just kind of doing it.

And we all have different strengths and weaknesses.

But the State Department is acting like it's just the biggest of deals just to approve a list.

Right.

And you're not even asking for visas for them.

You found other countries that will take them, which is the most amazing piece of this.

And because I know how hard it is, having gone through this and on the Iraq Christian

front, when ISIS came through, that's always the toughest thing is to try to put the whole package together, which you have done.

And then they control the airport.

Our people control the airport and won't let them in.

And

it's really astonishing.

People who've gotten in, as you know, some of them have been driven out by the State Department of the airport.

And so

it's unconscionable.

And

it's particularly galling to me because I heard the President get on television last week and say that human rights were at the center of his concerns.

And

that's simply not true here.

We're seeing

people being terribly persecuted for their human rights, for their right to religious freedom, for their right to expression.

Aid workers, journalists, everybody's in trouble.

He's delivered over 40 million, the president has delivered over 40 million Afghans to a brutally repressive, one of the world's most brutally repressive Islamist regimes.

So

it's astonishing they're trying to say, well, after today, you know, they're going to negotiate with the Taliban to find ways out.

The Taliban

considers us

to be blasphemers.

We are not an Islamic country.

Now, maybe we can go through Turkey or some other Islamic country, but they are so radical that it's impossible to know.

And these checkpoints, as you said,

People are getting brutalized at them by the Taliban.

There is a man from Canada that was waving his passport outside the airport perimeter who was bleeding from the head after being beaten by chains by the Taliban just for trying to leave.

He had a Canadian passport.

They want to kill anyone who is not part of their movement.

their ideological movement of extreme Sharia.

Nina, I'm sure you feel the same way.

You felt the same way.

But for the first time, I really understood those people that were trying to get Jews out of Germany.

You know, we had all this cash

and we could get airplanes, but we couldn't necessarily get them,

you know, as the Nazarene Fund.

We have relied on other charities

to help us do what they do best.

And

I sat there in my home, this is last week, I think, and I sat there in my home and I thought,

these people don't mean anything to the Taliban.

They don't.

They're going to kill them.

It's just this raging hatred.

And

it's such an amazing thing to be in a position to where you say, I can buy them from you.

Let me just buy them from you.

And you can't.

Because the hatred is so deep.

Yeah.

Well, these these are people who have been at war and killing and being killed for 40 years, even before we were, you know, long before we were there during the Russian period.

So they are hardened warriors.

They're even asking their own imams

in the country to make lists of girls over the age of 12

to marry off as spoils of war to their jihadis.

I mean, this is the way they think.

It's an extremely barbaric

culture

where

life is cheap.

Women mean nothing.

Women are property.

Christians are beyond contempt.

They're considered an insult by their mere presence, an insult to their religion, by

their mere presence.

And they want them killed.

They want to purify their land.

And

or so they think.

So it's a bloodletting that has been going on for 40 years and to think that

we can negotiate with them or that we will have a partnership with them, which one of our military commanders said, I was astonished to see that yesterday,

is delusional and is extremely dangerously, it's foolish and dangerously naive.

And

we are throwing the people who we work with, our real partners, people who believe in our values and have supported us against this scourge.

And it's not going to stay in Afghanistan, Glenn, as you know.

There is a counterpart in Pakistan, and Pakistan is a country with a nuclear bomb.

So it's a very dangerous situation from a national security front, from a geopolitical front, and then from our own sense of values and culture.

We're talking to Nina Shea.

Tonight, when we're on the TV show, I want to just ask you

what what the situation is around the rest of the world and

what this means.

But let me just end our time here with how many, you know, we don't have numbers, we have estimates, and they range, you know, wildly.

How many people

that are marked for death

because of their religion,

do you think we're leaving behind?

Well, I think that the best estimates range between 10 and 12,000 Christians.

Most of these Christians are converts from Islam and they live in a deep underground.

They have no tr real formal designated church building.

So they report on Twitter saying that they feel thrown to the wolves.

So I think all of those people are in danger of death, men, women, and children.

There are also Hindus, some Sikhs, some Shia, Muslim, Hazaris,

and others who are too afraid to be mentioned.

I know the names of their faiths, and I talked to one of their leaders, and he said, don't mention us.

We're trying to get everybody out.

And that was a week ago.

So,

you know, this is,

you know, I think it's easily 40,000 people that we've left behind.

But especially these Christians, 10 to 12,000, because they are converts and they are considered apostates.

And that's punishable under their code, their interpretation of Islam,

is punishable by death.

And

that's already happening.

And, you know, 10 years ago, Glenn, there was the Taliban attacked a mission group who were on horseback.

going through the mountains in the winter trying to give air care with their pack horses to the remote mountain villagers.

and they were all murdered by the Taliban.

They were all shot to death, all 10 members of this team, this medical team, doctor's team.

They weren't out to, they happened to be a Christian group, but they weren't focusing on spreading the faith.

They were focusing on giving this medical care.

And the Taliban propagandist back then is the same one who's identified in the press now as their spokesman.

His name is Nujahid, is his last name.

He said the medical team was killed because they were spying for the Americans and preaching Christianity.

He said that to the New York Times.

That's where I got that.

So this is how they view Christians.

We're talking to Nina Shea.

Nina, I'll talk to you later for

the TV show tonight.

Is there anything that we are not doing that we should be doing to help you?

Do you have everything you need from us?

I need prayer,

and I really appreciate it, Glenn.

Thank you so much.

Okay.

Thank you so much for everything that you do.

You know, we're kind of just showing up here at the end, and you've been doing this,

you know, for a very, very long time

with others.

Thank you.

Nina Shea, you can follow her at hudson.org at the Hudson Institute.

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There were a couple of congresspeople that flew in to Kandahar to

see things and see what was really going on.

Are people following this stew in the states?

Yeah, it was a story a couple of days ago.

There was sort of a controversy about it.

The military seemed to be upset that a couple of

congressmen had landed in Afghanistan at that time.

Well, sure,

there's never a good time to land in war zone

in Afghanistan, honestly.

At any point, there's never a point to go visit.

There's no destiny there.

There's nothing.

But yeah, he was a run Republican, one Democrat, both veterans,

came in to kind of see what was going on.

The military, understandably, is in the middle of a large evacuation.

I mean, I can understand why, given the choice, they might not want

additional

things to deal with VIPs in the area.

On the other hand,

it's not bad to have, I mean, it is Congress's job for oversight.

I mean, that's

a civilian-run military, and I think that's really important.

And

I'm really glad that it's two military veterans and a Republican and a Democrat

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You know,

I've seen so many things going around the internet.

It's just,

it's almost comical if it wasn't so stupid.

The people who are,

lots of people are complaining that I'm here.

And they think that I am spending donated money here.

I am not.

I am personally paying for everything here.

The donated air travel has come from

Kenneth Hopeland Ministries.

They're friends of mine and they have a plane and we called them up and they said, absolutely.

So everything.

Everything that I am doing, I am personally covering.

So no donated funds come out of that.

People People are saying that I'm somehow or another getting rich off of this.

I don't understand that scheme, seeing that I personally also gave,

when all is said and done, over a quarter of a million dollars to the Nazarene Fund.

So that's a hard one to make work.

Some people say that I'm not in the Middle East.

That's a new one.

Some people think that

I'm taking just a private plane in and out of Kabul.

I don't know if I'm supposedly piloting the plane, but I'm not, and it's not a private plane with six seats.

Somebody was arguing last night that it was very difficult to get 5,100 people out of the airport.

In fact, impossible with a plane that just has six seats.

That's a good point.

I mean, if you had a plane that has six seats, I would agree with them.

I would agree too.

But

we have multiple 737

Airbus 380s, I think,

and

they are positioned all over right now.

And we are going back in, it's my understanding,

to try to get more.

And it's becoming very, very dangerous.

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Peter Meyer is with us.

He's a congressman from Michigan.

I believe he replaced Justin Amash.

And he's one of the two congressmen that went to Kabul, to the airport.

I guess the military was upset because, you know, they were busy, whatever, but we are a military that is run

by the public and by private citizens and private oversight from our congressmen.

So I personally am glad that he went over and he went over with a Democrat as well.

Peter joins us now.

Hi, Peter.

Hi, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

What did you find over in Kabul?

You came back.

You were there a few days ago, right?

Yes, we were there on Tuesday, you know, just for about 15 hours on the ground.

I mean, we found a chaotic situation that we should have never put our service members in, but that each and every American there, soldier, sailor, marine, airman, diplomat, just working around the clock, working their houts out to save as many American lives and our Afghan allies as possible.

Okay.

So can you tell me why the State Department,

and I'm not saying the people on the tarmac, the State Department is out of control and

just seemingly blocking private efforts.

They are overwhelmed and they are behind the eighth ball.

I mean, this has been a State Department-led withdrawal.

And while I'm generally supportive and don't think that a diplomatic effort should be military-led, this is a military operation that the State Department is simply overwhelmed at the leadership level to be able to handle.

They're scrambling, and this is utter chaos.

Who made this decision to put the State Department, because isn't it usually when it's a withdrawal like this,

the military does it because that's what they do best?

Yeah.

I think this comes straight from the top from President Biden.

And that gets to the root of the chaos, the mismanagement, and the incompetence of this whole mission.

Everything was going along smoothly until it wasn't.

And when it started to go south and go south fast, we did not have leadership that was able to rapidly adapt.

We did not have those plans in place.

And that's why you're seeing the mad scramble.

That's why you're seeing our soldiers and Marines being put in the impossible positions that they are.

It should have never happened.

It's President Biden's fault that it is.

But this is the impossible mission that those folks have had to undertake.

So, and I understand that, you know, the president is the president, he's the commander-in-chief, and he makes the decisions.

But I don't understand the logic of the president,

or I don't understand the Pentagon.

If they were actually saying to the president, yes, we should get rid of Bagram.

There's no strategic value in that, even if it's just no strategic value until this operation is over and we're all out.

Do you believe the Pentagon is advising and

cool with all the things that we're doing right now?

Oh,

I've talked to folks at the Department of Defense who are heartbroken, who are frustrated beyond all measure.

I mean, you're talking about a lot of professionals who have spent their livelihoods, their careers, the past two decades, right, risking their life working alongside Afghans, and to see that all crumble in a matter of days has been a gut blow of the highest order.

And then to also see the failures to plan and this mad scramble and the horror of the past

couple of days,

I'm really worried about what's going to happen in the coming weeks and months there.

But again, what do you mean by that?

Hang on just a second.

What do you...

What do you mean by that?

For the people on the ground or for us?

For all all of us.

I mean, right now, there is a massive mobilization of thousands of veterans, of former diplomats, of former Department of Defense civilians, of aid workers, of journalists working around the clock to get as many people out as possible, running on adrenaline, you know, burning the candle at both ends.

And right now, that pipeline is about to get shut off, right?

That effort.

Their attempts to save the lives of their friends,

to save the lives of Americans, to save the lives of Afghans who risked it all to support our U.S.

mission.

When there's no longer hope at the end of that, when that is cut off,

I'm deeply concerned.

I think we're going to see consequences we can't imagine right now.

How does this, I mean, I think most Americans are fine.

They wanted an end of an ongoing 20-year war on terror.

That is the most ridiculous thing we ever did.

We're fighting a concept of terror.

And it's morphing and it's bleeding into here.

We've made all kinds of mistakes.

But

let me ask you,

if you were President of the United States and you, I assume, you wanted to get out,

I think all Americans do, how should we have done this?

It should have been careful.

It should have been exacting.

It should have been willing to respond to situations on the ground.

I mean, I spent 2013 to 2015 in Afghanistan.

I believe that there was no military conclusion to the mission there, that you had to result in a blended power-sharing government.

But in the span of a few weeks, every single bit of leverage we had in order to impress the Taliban to accept that outcome vanished.

And we did not change our posture.

We did not change our withdrawal.

We did not, from the beginning, emphasize the evacuation of our loyal Afghan allies and American citizens.

Those mistakes, you know, we had predicted, I was part of the bipartisan group pushing on this, going back to April, saying, we have time now, move fast because we don't know if we'll have time later.

And we were rebuffed.

We were ignored.

You talk about Bagram Air Base.

You talk about all of these components.

The idea that we withdraw our military before we withdraw civilians, I mean, we would not be in the position we are today if we had prioritized and had gone in with that worst-case scenario planning.

And as a result, we have just been scrambling for the past several weeks.

You know, the forces on the ground doing the best that they can, but with that vacuum of leadership from the top.

There are two things that I think are absolutely reprehensible.

And I don't say this politically

by any stretch of the imagination.

One of the most impeachable things I have ever seen,

and I remember Nixon and I remember Clinton and all of them, the most impeachable thing I have seen is the fact that we left Blackhawk helicopters for them

and that we left all kinds of technology, including the Air Force base, including our embassy, and

our president may have either just left behind

the names of all the people that helped us or actually okayed giving a list to the Taliban.

Any comment on any of that?

We need

an

unsparing accountability for everything that has happened, for the multiple failures, many of which you outlined there, but there are additional ones.

I mean, continuing to deny that al-Qaeda has a presence there, continuing to deny that Americans are stranded.

I mean, this has been leadership failure upon strategic failure upon operational failure.

But it's also been a congressional failure to exert oversight.

I mean, you talk about all of those weapons.

You talk about the way this war has gone on for close to 20 years.

Imagine if every member of Congress had to vote every term to keep forces there, to cast that vote on whether or not to risk American lives and demand to know why.

Imagine if every single one of those Black Hawk helicopters that was sold, all of that armament that's currently in the hands of the Taliban, imagine if Congress had to pass in both houses

a measure of support in order to do that.

We have had a Congress that has checked out and we have had a

presidencies that have been able to operate with impunity.

And this tragic conclusion over the past several weeks is what happens when we just trust the president and do not exert our constitutional oversight.

So there has to be unsparing criticism and examination and accountability.

Do you think that's going to happen?

I mean, we've got Nancy Pelosi talking about women's rights yesterday instead of any of this.

Is that going to happen?

Because that seems like a pipe dream, Peter, at this point.

We had a Republican call last night.

I'll be honest, I'm probably...

I am more angry than I let on right now because I am heartbroken at the lives that were lost on Thursday at the airport.

I am exhausted from our round-the-clock efforts to get American citizens and our loyal Afghan allies out.

We are still in triage mode, but

I am committed, and I think our Republican leadership is committed to that unsparing accountability and holding everyone who is responsible and culpable for these failures to account.

I hope so.

Peter Meyer, thank you very much, Congressman from Michigan.

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Thank you so much for spending just a few minutes or a few days with us this week

as we

conclude our broadcast here from the Middle East.

I think we're having a meeting here in just a few minutes, but we will decide what we're doing and where we're going next

after this broadcast.

But thank you so much for listening and thank you for your support of the Nazarenefund.org.

Glenn, I'm looking at you are currently trending on Twitter, which is always a good sign.

I'm sure it's a good thing.

It's always a good thing.

Also a good thing.

It's never a good thing.

Never.

I'm kind of going through the comments here.

There are a lot of news stories that have finally started to come out about all of the money that has been raised and the people that have been saved, and we're thankful for that.

They're not all positive.

Not all comments are positive on Twitter, which is going to shock a lot of people.

There's a few different categories these kind of break into.

One of which is just they see your name trending and they're very upset that you're not dead.

Yeah, I've seen that, which is an interesting thing.

I'm sorry.

I haven't died yet.

Sorry.

That's very disappointing to many.

It's weird, though.

Can you

think of the mental process that goes on there where you see Glenn Beck, you're like, oh my gosh, is he dead?

You click on it, and then you're disappointed that he's alive and saved 5,100 refugees.

That's a weird thing to be disappointed about.

Okay, but here's the.

Can I tell you one thing that really is concerning me is that

I am being looked at like saving people.

I'm not.

I did my part, and that is talk on the air and raise the money.

We are helping with the airplanes, but there are so many charities involved.

And at the end of this, I will make a big deal out of all of these charities because we're all working together.

You also did strangle one member of Isis K with your bare hands.

You should probably point that out when I was going to try to do that.

I did do that.

I did do that.

There are people that are saying, like, well, of course, typical Glenn Beck only

saving Christians.

That's not true, though, right?

That's the charter of the Nazarene for

saving religious

and any religious minorities.

But I will tell you this.

I'll give you something to complain about.

We didn't want to fly half-empty plane loads at times, and so there were lots of non-Christians on some of these flights as well.

Because I'm not going to fly a half-empty plane, we're helping whoever needs help.