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the best of the blend back program

from the Middle East,

where we have been trying all week to get Christians out of Kabul,

I can't give you an update today.

Things have been so chaotic since last night.

Last word, we had 5,100 Christians and refugees out.

We're trying now, we're in another phase, kind of looking for a land bridge.

But there are other people that are trapped at the airport, not on the tarmac.

I think we have cleared all those.

We have repositioned the airplanes that have been working for the Nazarene Fund.

And I have to tell you, the teamwork on the ground is absolutely phenomenal.

I want to make it really, really clear that it is not just us

that

is doing all of this by any stretch of the imagination.

We are working with so many different groups, and I will talk about that a little later on and how you can help.

But I first,

I just want a super shout out to President Joe Biden, who

is

the worst president.

And he may, in my, you know, if you've listened to this program,

I

hate Woodrow Wilson.

Hate him

with all the intensity of a white hot son.

Maybe, as Pat would say, a thousand white hot sons.

I think that Joe Biden may surpass him as the worst president of all time.

Last night in the speech, I just, I want to go over a, I don't know, just a couple of things.

First, let's start with his message to ISIS K.

To those who carried out this attack,

as anyone who wishes America harm know this.

We will not forgive.

We will not

be yet.

We will hunt you down and make you pay.

Okay, all right.

Okay, stop, stop, stop.

I just, I have a couple of questions.

We'll never forgive.

Great Christian message there for you.

But he wants to talk about ISIS-K, ISIS-K, not the Taliban, because, of course, the Taliban they're helping us, and their big enemy is, you know,

ISIS-K.

It's like special K, but it doesn't come in a box.

Wish it did.

If I were president, all of them would be coming in a box.

But ISIS-K

is against the Taliban, and the Taliban has been protecting us.

Bull freaking crap.

That is not

true.

You are going to hear this bull crap that ISIS is against the Taliban, and the Taliban is so nice, and they're just trying to protect us, and they're guarding the gate.

That's bullcrap.

All of that is PR bull crap.

These guys do hate each other.

But have you heard an idea in the Middle East called the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

They'll try to blow each other up very soon.

But first, they want to kill and humiliate us.

So

don't even start with this was ISIS-K because you don't know

who it was.

And by the way, let's say it was...

I'm sorry, there were three Taliban checkpoints before you got to the main gate where our checkpoint was.

Is the Taliban, they're so super good, they're so reliable and so good and so able to beat us, but they couldn't recognize suicide bombs when they saw them through three separate checkpoints?

Now the last point on this one.

We're going to hunt you down and we're going to make you pay.

Well, maybe that's true after we ship them probably a billion dollars on the airport and just leave it there like we did with Iran.

But how are we going to hunt them down?

Joe, how are we going to do that?

And this is kind of an interesting one because people are like, oh, we'll just bomb them.

We'll just have a drone up in the sky and we'll just drone them to death.

Hmm, will we?

Well, first of all, let's just remind you that they now

have more blackhawks.

The Taliban has more blackhawks than 85%

of the world.

Don't worry about it.

They're cave dwellers with black hawks.

Now, the second thing,

usually you need some sort of an intelligence network to be able to find out on the ground who did it.

Unless we're just going to take the Taliban's word for it,

because I know they're so trustworthy.

We have no connections on the ground.

If we did, none none of them trust us anymore.

None of them would ever work with us.

We probably actually made people want to help the Taliban and blow us up the way we have betrayed them.

There won't be a Middle Eastern contact for as far as the eye can see.

So what intelligence network are you gonna use, Joe, to find out who did that and where they are?

This guy is a moron, a moron.

When a guy like me can figure this out,

you are a special kind of moron.

Now, let's go to cut two.

The military recommended something.

Did you personally reject a recommendation to hold or to recapture Bagram Air Force Base?

Here's what I've done.

Let's

answer the last question first.

On the tactical questions of how to conduct an evacuation or a war,

I gather up

all the major military personnel that are in Afghanistan, the commanders, as well as the Pentagon,

and I ask for their best military judgment

what

would be the most efficient way to accomplish the mission.

They concluded, the military,

that Bagram

was not much value added, that it was much wiser

based on Kabul.

Wow.

And so I followed that recommendation.

Stop.

Remember, he takes full responsibility, but he asked the Pentagon, how do we do it?

He said earlier in the speech, I asked them three times today if they needed something and they said no.

Oh,

well, that's taken full responsibility for it.

I take full responsibility.

I asked them and they said they didn't need my help at all.

They didn't want anything else.

Uh-huh.

Does that include them saying, this is a colossally bad idea?

We shouldn't do it, Mr.

President.

And then you saying, no, but we're going to do it anyway.

Okay.

What's it going to take?

Well, I don't know because this is going to be a disaster.

But the good thing is we have a huge air base there in the country that we could use for air support.

No, no, no.

Instead,

the Pentagon said,

What do you say we get rid of the airbase?

Let's get there's no use for an airbase here.

There's no strategic value for this airbase.

That's why

when we first started the war, we built that gigantic airbase because there was no strategic use for it at all.

When will the Pentagon stand up and say, that's bull crap?

Now, maybe,

maybe the people running the Pentagon are that stupid, but the military's certainly not.

Let me ask a Marine friend of mine, Jason Buttrill, who is here with me in the Middle East, because all of us watching last night almost burst a blood vessel when we saw him say certain things.

Your thoughts, Jason, on the president

just heeding the advice of the generals and the Pentagon and saying, yeah, there's no strategic use for us to have that airbase.

Well, for one, I thought that he was just following Trump's plan.

So I thought all these plans were already drawn up by the Trump people.

So why are they even discussing altering it in the first place?

That's for one.

So this is a total shock to me

for that.

Two, there's no way.

There's just absolutely no way the military would have said, hey, let's just abandon Bongram Air Base before we finish the full evacuation.

Why would anyone in their right mind do that?

You don't take assets off the table.

You just, just to cover your own ass.

You're like, no, no, no, let's just leave that alone.

We'll take those guys out last.

Just to cover your own ass, you do that.

Right.

And just for like geographical reference, Bagram Air Base is right above Kabul.

So

it's within striking distance of Kabul.

So if you are going to, let's say, ferry troops back and forth, if you need to put troops, let's say by some wild stretch of the imagination that you botched the withdrawal and the Taliban rolled into Kabul last minute and no one thought that oh that did happen okay well then no worries because you have Bagram air base there because you could then you can pull in additional assets to secure the area

but oh they abandoned Bagram air base so none of this from a military strategic you know perspective makes any sense whatsoever what so what does that tell you it was all political so politics has been driving this evacuation from day one you know in in a situation like this in a military situation like this the situation drives your timeline.

Now, the Biden administration has been doing it exactly the opposite way.

The timeline has been driving the situation, which makes no sense whatsoever.

They're looking at their timeline to say, oh, we're going to make our decisions based off of this, this, this, and this.

No, in any other military situation, period, you're looking at the situation and you're adjusting your timeline off of that.

None of this makes sense whatsoever.

You know, you want to see somebody that was honorable on taking responsibility.

That would be Eisenhower and quite honestly, George W.

Bush.

George W.

Bush took the heat.

I was in his office when

he called me and

actually he didn't, but his people called me.

I said, you want something to impeach this president over?

We were talking about the border.

This.

This is where you find something impeachable of this president.

And that night driving home from CNN,

I'll never forget.

I'm driving, I pick up the cell phone, it's a 212 number

or 202 number, and they say,

I pick it up, Mr.

Beck, the president would like to see you in the Oval on Thursday and at 11 o'clock.

And I didn't know what to do.

I was just like,

okay, let me check.

And I just held the phone out away from my face, like, what the hell?

What do I?

Okay, I'm good.

And so I went and

he was a different person than you saw on television.

He knew the names of everybody who had been killed or injured that he had personally called that morning.

And it was around 11 o'clock, 11.30 when he told the story.

And he was crystal clear on the name.

He said the names of the people he called.

And he talked about assets that we had in the war, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I said to him, No offense, Mr.

President, but this is the guy that we need to see on television.

And he said, you can't, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But the point of this story is that he said to me,

it's my decision.

I told the military, you have whatever you want.

We're not going to do this Vietnam style.

So I will take the heat.

And they said to me, fine, just please Don't make the dead the death toll numbers coming from the White House all the time because that's what killed us last time.

And he said, fine, I won't.

And he said, there are so many times that I want to tell the American people good news, but I can't.

And I know I'm going to look bad, maybe for the next 50 years, but I'm going to take the responsibility because I made that promise.

That's taking responsibility.

This guy is, no, I told them what I wanted to do and then they did it.

And look how it's turning out, which by the way in the same breath I'm going to say is fantastic and I should be praised for how it's being how it's turned or turned out it's just the military Donald Trump and anybody else's fault not mine back in just a minute

Stu can you verify for me that all of the questions were submitted in advance last night I've heard that.

I don't have it confirmed, but I have heard that.

I've heard that too, and I'd like that confirmed if we can.

I've heard that they were all,

questions were submitted in advance.

And when he got up and he said, okay, I've been told I've got to start with,

Mr.

President, I don't know if all the presidents are told, hey, you might want to start with this.

You have to stop saying that because you look like an absolute puppet of somebody.

Stop saying that.

Or here's an idea.

Don't do it.

Be your own man.

Pull up your big boy pants.

When he spoke to Peter Doocy,

it was the most incredible, unpresidential thing I've ever seen.

Here's the question.

Hey, let me take the one question from the most interesting guy that I know in the press.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Slam.

That's you.

Mr.

President, there had not been a U.S.

service member killed in combat in Afghanistan since February of 2020.

You set a deadline, you pulled troops out, you sent troops back in, and now 12 Marines are dead.

You said the buck stops with you.

Do you bear any responsibility for the way that things have unfolded in the last two weeks?

Now listen.

I bear responsibility for fundamentally all that's happened of late.

But here's the deal.

You know,

I wish you'd one day say these things.

You know as well as I do

that a former president made a deal with the Taliban that he would get all American forces out of Afghanistan by May 1.

In return, the commitment was made, and that was a year before.

In return, he was given a commitment that the Taliban would continue to attack others but would not attack any American forces.

Remember that?

I'm being serious.

No, I'm I'm asking you a question.

Because before.

No, no, no, wait a minute.

I'm asking you a question.

Is that accurate, the best of your knowledge?

Now he puts his face down into his hands.

Like defeated.

Which is a thing for him, I think.

They have an issue that

people

are likely to get hurt.

Some, as we've seen, have gotten killed.

and that it is messy.

The reason why, whether my friend will acknowledge it, has reported it, the reason why there were no attacks on Americans, as you said, from the date until I came into office, was because the commitment was made by President Trump.

I will be out by May 1st.

In the meantime, so how does that make any sense at all?

Then why did they start attacking us now?

Wait, then why didn't you just do what President Trump was doing?

Why did they start?

Why did we have the third deadliest day of a 20-year war yesterday?

Doesn't make any sense, but he's all jello and oatmeal in the head.

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I want to play two pieces of audio from the speech last night.

The first one really doesn't need a comment,

but this proves Bill O'Reilly right when he says he's not even there enough to understand.

Listen to this.

If

Osama bin Laden,

as well as al-Qaeda,

had chosen to launch an attack attack when they left Saudi Arabia out of

Yemen,

would we have ever gone to

Afghanistan?

Even though the Taliban completely controlled Afghanistan at the time,

would we have ever gone?

I know it's not fair to ask you questions.

It's rhetorical, but raise your hand if you think we should have gone.

I know it's not fair to ask you, and it's rhetorical, but raise your hand.

First of all, you can't re-litigate the past, and that's all that the progressives seem to do.

Here's my question for Bill O'Reilly.

Bill, he says this almost every time, and I know that the president is given a list, but I have heard from last night, and I'd like confirmation on this, that all of the questions were submitted prior to in writing.

Can you tell me, is this just a bad habit, or is there more to when

Joe Biden says things like this?

Ladies and gentlemen, they gave me a list here.

The first person I was instructed to call on was Kelly O'Donnell of NBC.

Bill?

The Biden administration always asked for the questions in advance.

I don't know the compliance level of that.

I give Biden credit for giving Fox News a question yesterday.

You know, I'm sure they did that to forestall any criticism that he wasn't going to take any tough questions.

But it doesn't really matter anymore, Beck, does it?

The White House credit score doesn't matter anymore.

Corporate media doesn't really matter.

And I was happy to see you tout that if people are listening to us now, you're really being deceived by the corporate media.

And if you're still going to

consume it, then that's on you because they're not going to tell you the truth.

Beck, we got you booked on the Nosepin News on Monday.

I don't know whether you'll be back or not.

We want you to be safe, first of all.

But if you are back, we're going to talk about the Nazarene Fund and why you did, what you did.

And then we'll get into Afghanistan, of course.

And

it'll be a large part of the Nosepin News on Monday.

But I'll tell you, the corporate media would never put Glenn Beck on the air.

And that includes Fox News.

Okay?

Well,

I was on with Tucker Carlson last night, but I think that's more of a personal thing.

I'm never invited anywhere else on Fox News.

Let me ask you.

I'm glad you were.

I missed it,

but I'm glad you were.

But my point of the matter is that they don't, they being the corporate media, and it extends throughout all you see on television.

They're not interested in the truth anymore.

They're not interested in it.

So now the dilemma that they have and how Americans are being deceived once again is that all of these people, all of them, every single one with the exception of FNC, endorsed Biden and did more than endorse him.

They lied about Trump.

They lied about

January 6th.

They lied about Russian collusion.

They lied about Ukraine.

They lied and lied and lied and lied and lied.

And now they're stuck with the guy that they put up as the champion to bring America back, build back better.

Okay?

and this guy obviously is screwing things up to the extent that people are dying.

Okay, so

when Trump was president, nobody was dying,

but now Biden's president and people are dying all over the place.

And so I'm

go ahead.

Bill, I want to ask you this.

Go back to January, and

you won the presidency.

How would you have handled the the Afghan situation with the deal that Trump had in place?

What would you have done?

Excellent question.

Excellent question.

And I talked to Trump about this, and that's going to be one of the highlights of the O'Reilly-Trump history tour, which is underway in December.

I want everybody to check that out on BillORally.com because we're going to get answers to questions that nobody has even asked Donald Trump.

But when you take over a

country, as Biden did in January, you have to bring fresh eyes to everything.

That's number one.

So it doesn't really matter what your predecessor did.

But the second that Biden got in, because the progressives hated Trump so much, he issued 1717 executive orders overturning Trump stuff.

The second he got in, okay?

And most of those executive orders have been disastrous.

That border is the best example, but the pipeline shutdown, all of that just follows.

So in Afghanistan, you have a situation where

the United States went in there

to get Al-Qaeda, to destroy al-Qaeda, which it did.

We did.

We destroyed it.

And I'll remind everybody once again that the only cabinet member that was against the bin Laden raid in Pakistan was Joe Biden.

Only one.

Okay.

So then we decided foolishly to try to take on a medieval society steeped in Sharia law and turn it into California.

Okay?

That's pretty much what we said.

We're going to do this.

They'll all be listening to the Beach Boys when we get through with them.

Okay, it was foolish.

And everybody has pointed out, history has never changed, and the country will never change.

It is a tribal nation that is fundamentally Islamic and they're not going to change.

No matter what you do, no matter how much you give them, the majority of people like being fundamentalists and like living in the Middle Ages.

That's the truth.

So we spent all this money, a trillion dollars over a 20-year period, to try to do that.

Didn't work.

We had to get out.

Trump was enraged because he goes, why are we spending all this money?

We're getting nothing out of it.

And that's how Trump thinks.

He's a business guy.

But what Trump did with the Taliban is just what I told you before the break.

He said, if you screw around with us while we're trying to get out of there, we're going to kill you.

You!

Okay?

So the Taliban goes, oh, I really don't want to die tomorrow.

And when I say kill you, drones are what is used to wipe these people off the face of the earth.

And that's what I said.

All Biden had to do was tell the 20 Taliban leaders, you screw around

and you're all dead.

Might take a little while, but we'll get you.

That's what Trump did.

But the Taliban said, you know, Biden's not going to do that.

He's not going to say that.

And that's why we have what we have.

So I don't believe

out.

Most Americans agree with me and you, because I think you're in the same posture.

You can't stay there, you know, odd infinitum.

But you don't have to pull everyone out.

You can have a stable force of 3,000 based in Bagram to make sure that atrocities don't occur.

We're protecting human lives by doing that.

Are we not?

Yes.

Biden,

as confident as he is, would not even do that.

Do we have the audio from Canada,

one of the Canadian ministers talking directly to the Taliban?

If we have that, can we play that here?

I want to take this opportunity to speak to our

brothers, the Taliban.

We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country.

We call on you to immediately stop the violence, the genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure, including heritage buildings.

We call on you.

She starts with our brothers,

the Taliban.

Do you think that

Biden,

I'm pretty sure Rice thinks this way, that they actually think that these guys are kind of good guys?

Honorable?

I don't think that.

I don't think that.

You don't.

No.

No.

And why are they saying that?

Well, I was a Canadian.

Well, no, you had Joe Biden last night saying

Joe Biden made the Taliban into heroes.

They were the ones guarding the gates.

He's trying to kiss their tushes so he can get as many people out.

I understand.

Is there

any doubt in your mind that last night, if Trump were president, if the same situation happened,

our military would have had boots on the ground or drones would have been flying and we would have retaliated strongly immediately.

I'm not sure because I don't think it's wise to launch military action when you're still trying to pull people out of there.

But I don't, as I said, don't, I know the Taliban wouldn't have done this.

Look, it's as simple as this.

When you do an operation, you have to do the operation methodically.

You've got more than a thousand ISIS prisoners in Bagram.

That has to be negotiated beforehand.

Does it not?

Does it not?

You got a thousand guys there.

They're all murderers.

And, you know, we got to deal with them.

But it wasn't dealt with.

But

right now, Biden has to, and I emphasize has to, launch military action.

It's a matter of when he does it.

When.

You don't knee-jerk and do it right away because that puts innocent civilians in danger and babies, as you were talking about at the beginning of the program.

But you have to punish them.

You have to.

Now will he do that?

Can he retain that thought?

I'm expecting that there will be some military action back

because now the Biden administration is on the verge of collapse.

The Biden administration and Afghanistan have something in common.

They're both collapsing.

So Biden's going to have to do something, have to, dramatic, to tell the American people, oh, no, I'm not going to sit by and watch this happen.

So expect that in the next two weeks or so.

All right, Bill O'Reilly, 30 seconds.

What do you want to pitch?

Well, I want you to come on Monday and let me know if you can't, because I think that's an important conversation on the Nospin News Monday.

Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, we're going to talk about a lot of things that directly impact Americans' lives.

Number one,

number two, thank thank you for mentioning killing the mob.

Number eight, last Sunday, it's incredible.

And if you need a good end of the summer, you're on the beach,

you know, killing the mob, you don't get better.

And number three, please, everyone, please pray for your country.

We are in a very bad place right now.

We're in a very, very bad place.

Bill O'Reilly, thank you.

And I think I'll have some breaking news on Monday as well.

Thank you so much.

We'll talk to you again.

Stay safe.

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somebody that I'm really anxious for you to meet in fact I'm having her on the Friday exclusive tonight to talk a little bit more about Christian persecution all around the world and and what

what Afghanistan means for Christians around the world, the collapse of this.

She's from the Hudson Institute.

You can find her at hudson.org.

Her name is Nina Shea, and she is a senior fellow.

She's the director of the Center for Religious Freedom, and she has been fighting here to protect Christians and get them out.

Welcome, Nina.

How are you?

Great to be with you, Glenn.

And you're doing such incredible work for your charities on helping these Christians right now in Afghanistan.

And that's what I'm primarily concerned with, as I'm sure you are these days this week, which may be their last chance.

We have

right now I have about 40 missionaries that

we're trying to get out, and some of them have already been beaten with chains and they're in hiding now.

And I mean, I don't know how we're going to get these people out, at least at this time.

Well,

that's right.

I'm trying to work with the State Department to get them

involved.

And

they keep saying that they received the files and we're going to see.

I guess today will be the determining day.

This is

a fateful day for them.

We have one case, Glenn, of a man who's in hiding for a week around the perimeter of the airport because he's so terrified.

He not only worked for the U.S.

government, he's an adult, but since he was 16, but so did his father and his brother.

They're Christians, and the father and brother were killed last week, murdered by the Taliban

for both of those things, and for working for the U.S.

and for being a Christian.

He fled immediately, his home in Kandahar, and is now in the

periphery of the airport in hiding, waiting to get onto one of your planes and I've been told by your team over there that your plane will take them but they can't get him into the airport and so this poor man is in shock he cannot leave he will not go back to his home he will die there if he has to because it's so brutal as you know you know a woman was shot because in the street because she did not have a burqa on when the Taliban took over.

This is their harsh harsh interpretation of Islamic rule, of their Sharia,

and they show no mercy.

They said, you know, they immediately declared when they took over Afghanistan, Islam has conquered Afghanistan and Islam will rule.

And they erected a white flag with the Islamic profession of faith.

And the problem with them is that they do not recognize the human agency in interpreting God's rule.

They don't recognize that humans apply it and interpret it.

And therefore, it's above criticism or accountability.

And if you dare to suggest reform or moderation, you will be accused of blasphemy or apostasy and put to death.

So that's the basic problem there.

They don't

give any form of democracy.

Let me ask you: can I go back to, are you willing to go in

at all about the

how can I say this the the issues with the State Department are you willing to to talk about any of those or or not and I understand

yes yes no I I am

the the there are individuals who are willing to help

within the State Department and we're working with them I'm working with a wonderful member of Congress

Jeff Fortenberry who's an appropriator in Congress, means he is one of the people who control the purse strings of the State Department, so they do have to listen to him, is from Nebraska, and he's been advocating for us.

But so far, we haven't gotten to square one.

We haven't gotten them into the airport so they can take your plane or some other plane or a U.S.

plane.

And some of them are eligible for U.S.

planes as well.

But the State Department has a policy right now of not letting in Afghan civilians.

And they are focused on the political, I think, that they don't want to say

the president doesn't want to say that

they left any American behind.

So they're trying to just focus on that and shut out the people that have supported us, that have worked with us, who are going to be killed, either for their faith.

Here's the amazing thing:

they don't have to do anything.

You know, our organization has people in the airport with the airplanes.

Other organizations have people outside the gates that want to come in, or they're going and gathering these people and then bringing them.

I mean, we've all really been playing nicely with each other.

All of these charities are, it's like nobody cares about credit, and we're all just kind of doing it.

And we all have different strengths and weaknesses.

but the state department is acting like it's just the biggest of deals just to approve a list

right and you're not even asking for visas for them

you found other countries that will take them which is the most amazing piece of this and because i know how hard it is having gone through this and on the iraq christian um when uh front when i came through that's always the toughest thing is to try to put the whole package together, which you have done.

And then they control the airport.

Our people control the airport and won't let them in.

And

it's really astonishing.

People who've gotten in, as you know, some of them have been driven out by the State Department of the airport.

And so it's

it's unconscionable and

it's particularly galling to me because I heard the President get on television last week and say that human rights were at the center of his concerns.

And

that's simply not true here.

We're seeing

people being terribly persecuted for their human rights, for their right to religious freedom, for their right to expression.

Aid workers, journalists, everybody's in trouble, Glenn.

He's delivered over 40 million the president has delivered over 40 million Afghans to a brutally repress one of the world's most brutally repressive Islamist regimes.

So

it's astonishing they're trying to say, well, after today, they're going to negotiate with the Taliban to find ways out.

The Taliban is a

considers us to be blasphemers.

We are not an Islamic country.

Now maybe we can go through Turkey or some other Islamic country, but they are so radical that it's impossible to know.

And these checkpoints, as you said, people are getting brutalized at them by the Taliban.

There is a man from Canada that was waving his passport outside the airport perimeter who was bleeding from the head after being beaten by chains by the Taliban just for trying to leave.

He had a Canadian passport.

They want to kill anyone who is not part of their movement, their ideological movement of extreme Sharia.

Nina, I'm sure you feel the same way.

You felt the same way.

But for the first time, I really understood those people that were trying to get Jews out of Germany.

You know, we had all this cash

and we could get airplanes, but we couldn't necessarily get them,

you know, as the Nazarene Fund.

We have relied on other charities

to help us do what they do best.

And

I sat there in my home, this is last week, I think, and I sat there in my home and I thought,

these people don't mean anything.

to the Taliban.

They don't.

They're going to kill them.

It's just this raging hatred.

And

it's such an amazing thing to be in a position where you say, I can buy them from you.

Let me just buy them from you.

And you can't because the hatred is so deep.

Yeah.

Well, these are people who have been at war and killing and being killed for 40 years, even before we were, you know, long before we were there during the Russian period.

So they are hardened warriors.

They're even asking their own imams to, in the country, to make lists of girls over the age of 12

to marry off as spoils of war to their jihadis.

I mean, this is the way they think.

It's an extremely barbaric

culture

where

life is cheap.

Women mean nothing.

Women are property.

Christians are beyond contempt.

They're considered an insult by their mere presence, an an insult to their religion, by mere presence, their mere presence.

And they want them killed.

They want to purify their land.

And,

or so they think.

So it's a bloodletting that has been going on for 40 years.

And to think that

we can negotiate with them

or that we will have a partnership with them, which one of our military commanders said, I was astonished to see that yesterday

is delusional and is extremely dangerously, it's foolish and dangerously naive.

And

we are throwing the people who we work with our real partners, people who believe in our values and have supported us against this scourge.

And it's not going to stay in Afghanistan, Glenn, as you know.

There is a counterpart in Pakistan.

And Pakistan is a country with a nuclear bomb.

So it's a very dangerous situation from a national security front, from a geopolitical front, and then from our own sense of values and culture.

We're talking to Nina Shea

tonight when we're on the TV show, I want to just ask you

what the situation is around the rest of the world and

what this means.

But let me just end our time here with how many, you know, we don't have numbers, we have estimates, and they range, you know, wildly.

How many people that

are marked for death

because of their religion

do you think we're leaving behind?

Well, I think that the best estimates range between 10 and 12,000 Christians.

Most of these Christians are converts from Islam, and they live in a deep underground.

They have no real formal designated church building.

So they report on Twitter saying that they feel thrown to the wolves.

So I think all of those people are in danger of death, men, women, and children.

There are also Hindus, some Sikhs, some Shia, Muslim, Hazaris,

and others who are too afraid to be mentioned.

I know the names of their faith, and I talked to one of their leaders and he said, don't mention us.

We're trying to get everybody out.

And that was a week ago.

So,

you know, this is,

you know, I think it's easily 40,000 people that we've left behind.

But especially these Christians, 10 to 12,000, because they are converts and they are considered apostates.

And that's punishable under their code, their interpretation of Islam,

is punishable by death.

And

that's already happening.

And, you know, it's 10 years ago, Glenn, there was the Taliban attacked a mission group who were on horseback going through the mountains in the winter trying to give air care with their pack horses to the remote mountain villagers.

And they were all murdered by the Taliban.

They were all shot to death, all 10 members of this team, this medical team, doctor's team.

They went out to, they happened to be a Christian group, but they weren't focusing on spreading the faith.

They were focusing on giving this medical care.

And the Taliban propagandist back then is the same one who's identified in the press now as their spokesman.

His name is Nujahid, is his last name.

He said the medical team was killed because they were spying for the Americans and preaching Christianity.

He said that to the New York Times.

That's where I got that.

So this is how they view Christians.

We're talking to Nina Shea.

Nina, I'll talk to you later

for the TV show tonight.

Is there anything that we are not doing that we should be doing to help you?

Do you have everything you need from us?

I need prayer, and I really appreciate it, Glenn.

Thank you so much.

Okay.

Thank you so much for everything that you do.

You know, we're kind of just showing up here at the end, and you've been doing this,

you know, for a very, very long time.

with others thank you um nina shea um you can follow her at uh hudson.org at the hudson institute

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