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Happy Independence Day weekend, patent stew for Glenn today.
Sad news, though, is we start the weekend.
We didn't hit the numbers that our president required of us to go ahead and have barbecues in our backyards with
a couple of people that we care about or at least like and wanted to have over for a burger.
We didn't hit those numbers.
So you can't do it.
Pat, I happen to be of the
of the of the idea that you should it's way too many way too many people in a backyard if you have multiple people at a backyard.
Well, he said up to six.
If two would have hit our numbers, but that's that was too many.
Too many, Pat.
Okay.
Too many people.
Too many.
Yeah.
You're talking about six people in one backyard.
I mean, maybe if you had 10 acres, you know, something like that situation.
If you had 10 acres.
I personally don't.
You don't?
I don't I do not have 10 acres Do you have a mountain range that cuts through and gives multiple sections of backyard Do you think my name is Glenn Beck?
No, no I
program.
I thought Glenn does have a mountain range that cuts through his backyard But it's not it's not that's not appropriate.
What I would say is if you have a mountain range that cuts it like a pizza
into six different slots.
Oh, like so you need a mountain range that kind of or like maybe even a forest would work But it has to cut it into multiple different regions of the backyard.
I don't have that.
And then one person in each region.
If you picture like a small pizza cut into six slices, one person in each area of that backyard,
if it's divided by some natural barrier.
For instance, if your backyard includes Colorado,
Utah.
Yeah, right.
Like if you're the federal governor.
Yeah.
If you're federal government and you own, let's say, 60% of the western half of the country, then you could ever go.
You could do this.
Yeah.
And that's because we're all coming together.
This is our Independence Day, Pat.
Otherwise, like, how many do you think?
Are two appropriate?
Can two people who live in the same household go into the backyard and have a barbecue?
Or is that too many?
Is that too much to ask?
Let me just be, because you know, we're conservatives.
We
maybe are a little too lackadaisical with our COVID restrictions.
What I would say is, let's say you live on a street and everyone's got a decent-sized backyard.
If you were to have a backyard barbecue with one person per backyard, I think that would be okay.
Separated by a fence?
First of all, yes, definitely separated by a fence.
But it'd be better if maybe you add some plexiglass to the top of that fence as well.
Okay.
And then in addition to that, you need to stand in the middle of the yard.
Either today or tomorrow, you need to install plexiglass at the top of your fence.
Yeah, I mean, it should be there already.
The fact that it's not already shows that you don't care and you want to kill grandmothers.
But I'm saying you stand in the middle of the yard, though.
Not like the Tim the Toolman Taylor thing,
where the neighbor came up and he poked his nose over the fence.
Yeah, you only saw his eyes for the entire series, kind of peeking over the fence.
Way too close.
Way too.
Way too close.
Now, sure,
if you want to look back and look at some of the scientific data, you might note that there has not been a single case of COVID spread outdoors other than very close conversation in the entire history of the pandemic.
But I think six people outside is radical.
And we didn't hit the number, Pat.
We didn't hit the number.
We didn't hit the number.
We don't deserve it.
We don't deserve to have a barbecue in the backyard with friends.
Thank you.
I don't deserve it.
I'm glad you finally said that, Pat.
Yeah.
It had to be said.
It really did.
I feel better now, having gotten it off my chest.
And here's the thing:
the fact that we missed this completely arbitrary number
by, what, 3%?
So
instead of 70% of people, adults over 18 vaccinated, it's 67%.
This is a massive difference.
And it's really going to make the difference between a pandemic, a raging pandemic, and herd immunity, Pat.
That's a dang good number.
In the United States of America, that's an incredible number.
67% of adults have gotten a vaccine.
You know, I'm glad you said that.
I totally agree with this.
I do at times hesitate because you think, like, well, you know, like herd immunity is
factors in an entire population.
We're not going to get to herd immunity anytime soon.
Probably never.
But, you know, the point is.
I will say, what's his face?
Fauci said 70% at the beginning.
If you get to 70% of adults, that's pretty dang good.
I think it is pretty dang good, especially when you consider that, you know, for most of this time, no one under 17 years old was eligible to even take the vaccine.
So you can't even look at anyone there.
And
you're at 67% of adults.
But more importantly, Pat, and this is something conservatives argued from the very beginning.
Look, we have a country here.
We have people who are going to be able to make their own risks, right?
They're going to be able to assess their own risks.
You know, what we really need to do to get this country going again is look at the people who are really vulnerable here.
And the people who are really vulnerable are largely people over 65 years old.
Right now, currently, at this moment, we have vaccinated 88.2% of people over 65.
That is an insanely good performance.
I mean,
what did you expect in a country where people are allowed to make their own decisions?
You expect it to be 100?
I mean, there are going to be some people who don't agree with you.
88.2% of the most vulnerable people.
It's incredible.
That's an amazing.
That's amazing.
And of course, we've seen the results.
I mean, we're down 90%
in cases and deaths, some of them over 90%, some of these margins, hospitalizations as well.
So they're trying to scare us, though, back into submission because people are getting too free again.
And we're not completely under their thumb right now.
So they're doing the whole Delta variant scare.
The fear-mongering on the delta variant.
You hear it every stinking day.
The delta variant.
The delta variant.
It's coming.
The delta variant.
Just stop with the delta variant.
But they're not going to stop because they want control.
In Los Angeles, they've already remandated masks
if you're going indoors anywhere.
I just don't think any of this stuff is going to work.
I don't feel like they're going to be able to reinstitute these.
I think
people are done, I think.
The Delta variant is up to, what, 25% now of cases.
It's going to rise.
It's happening in Great Britain right now.
And now they have
what I would consider a worse vaccine than the ones that we've had.
Mr.
Presenting it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's had its problems.
I don't think it's terrible.
But their situation right now, they are having an influx of cases due to the Delta variant.
And what hasn't moved at all, and we are now a couple weeks past where it should have moved, are deaths and hospitalizations.
I mean, it's ticked up a little bit, but really it hasn't nudged up at all.
So we've seen cases go up, but this is really like the old, you know, when some of these outbreaks would happen last year, people would say, like, ah, is this going to, is this just cases?
You know, it's younger people.
Is it just cases?
And then the deaths eventually would rise every single time.
This time they're not
in Great Britain.
Now, who knows?
Will it hold?
I don't know.
Here, we seem to be performing even better because I think our vaccines are better performing vaccines.
through Operation Warp Speed and all the work that the president did.
I heard him on Clay and Buck, the new show in Rush Limbaugh's time slot, talking earlier this week.
And he was talking about how
the media all said this was not possible.
They all said a vaccine in that timeline could not be done under any circumstances.
They laughed at him.
They laughed at him.
They went to, they said Donald Trump was trying to manipulate the science to win an election.
They accused him of all sorts of things.
Yet here we are
disappointed that only 67% of adults are vaccinated by July.
Yeah.
They, I mean, they had no timeline.
Their initial timelines for all of this was supposed to be a release maybe by the end of 2021.
Maybe if we're really lucky, by they'll release all of this for people.
Yeah, they kept telling us, oh, please, the fastest ever vaccine was developed in four years.
You can't get it done by the end of the year.
And he did.
Think about this, Pat.
I found this to be fascinating.
The early 80s went on, and we just exited Pride Month.
And if you know anything about it.
I miss it already.
I do, too.
I mean, we're 363 days away from Pride Month.
I've been in my heart all the year, though.
You will?
I am.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
One of the things that always comes up in Pride Month is the evils of Ronald Reagan.
You know, Ronald Reagan didn't even.
Didn't even mention the word age.
It's until 1998, after he died.
After he died.
After he died.
He he finally mentioned it
once.
And that was only one time.
And there's all these things that go around the internet.
Maybe we should get into this later, but there's all these things that go around the internet that Ronald Reagan didn't care about AIDS and he didn't mention it for all this time.
It's not true.
He doubled the investment in fighting AIDS more than doubled every year.
Every single year, he doubled it again.
Yep.
And the first year it was called a pandemic
and an epidemic, excuse me.
He was already investing in it.
I mean, he didn't wait.
He didn't wait until it was too late.
He was not asked, interesting, by any journalist throughout the entire 1984 reelection campaign one question about it in any of the debates.
So, like, it was not a focus of the country in large part.
But it's
barely heard about it.
Yeah, we didn't know about it.
We didn't know anything about it.
We didn't know what it was at the time.
I think the first time we ever heard of it was 1982.
Yeah.
Maybe.
And it wasn't, you know, they didn't know that much about it.
They didn't know much about it.
They didn't really know how it spread.
And here's the thing that I thought was fascinating, thinking about how far we've come.
In the early 80s,
AIDS was, they realized AIDS was a thing and they started trying to figure out what caused it.
It took them four years to identify the virus.
I mean, and four years.
Fauci was saying things like,
we think it might have come from a toilet seat.
I mean, it wasn't exactly that, but it was stuff like that.
Yeah, and we didn't know.
I mean, think about we have, in this situation, Operation Warp Speed produces multiple effective vaccines in less than a year.
And back then, it took four years to even figure out what the virus was, let alone come up with a vaccine for it, which they still don't have.
Yeah.
They do have pretty effective treatments now that have been developed over time.
But, you know, we...
Some people live a long time.
Yeah, very, very long time.
It's no longer the death sentence.
I remember watching Magic Johnson.
And thinking, oh my God.
Oh my God, he's going to be dead in six months.
Now you can't even detect the disease in him.
Yeah.
And we've come a long, long, long way.
By the way, I think it's Moderna that is about to enter trials on an mRNA-AIDS vaccine,
HIV vaccine, a flu vaccine.
And there was one other one.
Oh, wow.
Melanoma is another one.
They're in the middle of a trial.
Really?
Yeah.
I really, again, I understand that there's.
A cancer vaccine?
That's amazing.
There's a lot of disagreement, I understand, at times in the audience with vaccinations.
And again, I maintain a
cancer vaccine.
I'd take it.
And I maintain it's 100% your choice to do all of these things or not.
And I think that's really, really important in a country like the United States with foundational liberties like we have.
On the other hand, like, I also am really excited about this technology.
technology because if it works, there's hope to wipe out all sorts of diseases that have been around for a really long time.
And of course, we should make sure that all of it's
safe and everything else.
I mean, I think that's very important.
I'm very encouraged by what the Trump administration was able to do.
One of the things I love about this whole story is that it's the most hated people in the world coming together to do it.
I mean, people hate pharmaceutical companies.
They hate capitalism.
They hate the Trump administration.
And it's impossible to tell this story without them.
But that being said, you know, it's up to you, especially now when these things are available.
If you don't want to take them, you shouldn't have to take them, and then you assume the risk associated with that.
If you want to take them, you should have the ability to take them and you assume the risks associated with that.
That is a that seems like a country that's free.
It kind of does, doesn't it?
Yeah, it kind of does.
The best of the Glenn Beck program.
All right, so there have been 45.
We got the 45th president in office right now.
So the top 44 presidents listed by presidential historians.
This is a survey I usually see around President's Day.
Yeah.
But I don't remember seeing it this year.
Maybe they just waited until now to come out here.
Yeah, COVID, right?
All about the team.
Yeah.
So
let's start with the worst president of of all time.
This is perennially the worst president of all time.
You know who they usually pick as the worst?
Number 44.
Then after?
Nope.
But they don't like Hoover.
They don't like towards the bottom.
Hoover is 36th, so he is near the bottom.
James Buchanan.
Yeah.
Our first gay president.
I don't know if they're homophobic or what, but they always list James Buchanan dead last among American presidents.
Yes, they do.
Sad, sad for James.
We also have, let's see, just start at the
number 10.
So the top 10.
Oh, wait, wait, you're not going to do more of the crappy ones?
Well, yeah, I want to go to the corner.
I want to know more of the crappy ones.
Okay.
Give me some crappy presidents, according to historians.
At number 43.
So 44 is James Buchanan.
Number 43, Andrew Johnson.
At number 42, Franklin Pierce.
Presidents people don't know much about, right?
No, yeah.
Franklin Pierce,
name three things Franklin Pierce accomplished in office.
I can actually remember the day that I realized John Tyler was president of the United States.
I went through my entire life not knowing about John Tyler.
John Tyler.
And I remember going, John Tyler, who the hell is John Tyler?
Well, he's the 39th best president in the history of the country.
These guys at the end,
you really realize are not there.
A lot of them are just not known.
No, they're not.
This next one at number 41 is definitely known.
Donald J.
Trump, they list at 41.
I will say,
I am
stunned he is not 44.
According to presidential historians, yeah, that's a good point.
Again, like these guys always put progressive presidents up at the top and conservative presidents near the bottom.
The fact that they didn't put Trump at 44 out of 44 is stunning to me.
They must hate gay people like President Buchanan.
Yes.
Yes.
William Harry, William Henry Harrison, 40th.
What was he president for like nine days?
How long was Harrison president?
Yeah, is he the one that died really quickly?
Wasn't he the one?
I can't get these guys confused now.
You do.
It might have been McKinley.
McKinley wasn't president very long either.
Maybe that's the one.
A month.
Okay, so then John Tyler, as we mentioned, at 39.
Millard Fillmore, 38.
Harding, 37.
Herbert Hoover, at 36, as we mentioned.
Zachary Taylor, 35th.
Martin Van Buren,
Rutherford B.
Hayes, 33.
Benjamin Harrison, Richard Nixon.
Okay, so.
Hold on.
So William Henry Harrison.
Yeah.
His presidency lasted from March 4th, 1841 to April 4th, 1841.
Wow.
That's not a...
March to April.
Yeah.
Like a month.
Not a good run.
I mean, I kid you.
It's unfair.
He should be like number one.
He couldn't have screwed up that bad.
Is he the one that caught pneumonia when he was out doing the
speech?
Chester A.
Arthur.
Two.
Very
obscure president.
He at number 30.
George Bush at 29.
George W.
George W.
Bush.
Yeah.
Now, it's interesting.
George W.
Bush is now moving up on these lists, you're noticing.
He was doing went from 33 to 29 this time.
And this is why you can't look at these recent presidents with any level of honesty.
These guys cannot do it because Bush was the worst guy in the world in 2009 and 10.
And now that Trump has come in and now he's the worst guy in the world, you can move Bush up and say, Bush was good.
Look at the comparison.
And by the way, the same, I know it seems impossible, but the same thing will happen with whoever runs next.
If Ron DeSantis is the candidate, they will say, geez, we thought Trump was bad, but Ron DeSantis is worse.
They did it with Mitt Romney.
Remember that?
They're like, look, we, gosh, we thought George Bush was bad, but Mitt Romney, he's worse.
They do it every single time.
Right.
And Bush has gone in the surveys.
They do this 2009 survey, 2017, 2021.
So Bush in that time has gone 36 to 33 to 29.
See?
Yeah.
He's up the chart.
He's moving up.
Moving up the chart.
Another four places.
George W.
Bush.
Like, has he accomplished something new?
What has happened to make him go from 36 to 29?
It's the perception.
Yeah.
You know, you're right.
History tells the story, I guess.
Gerald Ford, who was not a great president, was number 28.
Garfield and Carter next.
Carter should be way lower than 26.
That's for sure.
He's one of the worst of all teams.
He should probably be in the 40s.
Late 30s to the early 40s.
Grover Cleveland, they list at 25.
One of our greatest.
This is one of our greatest presidents of all time.
This guy, to me, is top three.
Yep.
He's definitely top three.
Calvin Coolidge.
And they have him 24.
Calvin Coolidge at 24.
That is a disgrace.
It really is.
24.
It really is.
I mean, I agree with you.
I think he's probably my favorite president.
Maybe my second or third favorite, but he's right up there.
He should be up there at the top.
That's a terrible miscarriage of justice.
For me, he's up there with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln.
He's right up there with those guys.
He was a great president.
Let's see.
Clinton is down at number 19 now.
Clinton has kind of gone the other way.
He's gone 14, 15, 19.
So.
Same with George H.W.
Bush, 18, 20, then 21.
Yeah, it was interesting that those guys are going backwards for some reason.
James K.
Polk is a guy you don't hear about much since we we dropped James K.
Polk Tuesdays doing Pat and Stew years ago.
We finally got tired of doing it.
But he's listed at number 18.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
All right, the top 10.
Barack Obama at number 10.
Just above him at number 9.
This is way too low, I think.
Ronald Reagan, 9th.
I would put Reagan.
I'm surprised he's 9th, actually, on a list like this.
If I was going to put him, I'd have him higher.
But ninth isn't bad for presidential historians.
I'm shocked that they put him ninth.
That's stunning for historians.
JFK, who always is overrated, number eight.
Tom,
that's ridiculous.
Yeah, it is ridiculous.
He didn't even complete a term.
Again, not his fault.
Right.
But still, you have to take that into account.
He did some good things, though.
He stared down the Soviets.
He
had the vision of the moonshot.
And he lowered taxes.
Yep, in a big way.
I mean, he was not.
I would not put him at the bottom, but
he's not a top 10 president.
He didn't serve enough time, I think, to be a top 10 president.
Right.
Let's see.
Thomas Jefferson, number seven.
Way too low for Thomas Jefferson.
Harry Truman is above Thomas Jefferson at number six.
No.
No.
Dwight D.
Eisenhower, the fifth best president of all time.
Hmm.
Kind of ambivalent on that one.
Then you get to Theodore Roosevelt.
I'm not ambivalent on that.
That's terrible at that.
Number four.
Terrible ranking.
And even worse is number three, FDR.
Yeah, those are number three.
Number three?
No.
FDR is definitely near the bottom of this list.
Definitely one of the worst presidents of all time.
In fact, we skipped over Lyndon Baines Johnson.
He's listed at number 11.
He might be the all-time worst president.
Seriously, I think he is underrated in that discussion as one of the worst presidents of all time.
He is almost single-handedly responsible for all of our problems with debt.
Trillions and trillions of dollars can be attributed to him and the war on poverty.
And he was
an out-of-control racist.
Racist.
The fact that they, again, not racist.
I mean, look, Woodrow Wilson, who we didn't mention somehow on this program, which is terrible.
He's at number 13, which actually is probably.
He should be obviously in the 40s.
But like, Wilson was a racist
a lot earlier than Johnson.
Johnson was still doing the racist thing, you know, a half century later.
And here's the thing, the weird thing about Lyndon B.
Johnson.
He's credited for the civil rights bill, for signing it.
Incredible.
Well, yeah, after he was forced into it, essentially.
He fought it his entire life.
He fought it.
Right up till the time he signed it, really.
He signed it out of political necessity.
He had to sign it, and he finally did, but he fought it the rest of his career.
It's despicable that he's listed at number 11.
Okay, going back to the number two,
George Washington,
which I don't have a problem with since you've got Abraham Lincoln at number one.
I mean, that's hard to argue with.
Although Southerners would always argue with Abraham Lincoln being number one, the best president of all time.
Yeah, I might put, look, Lincoln is the top five president in my view, but I'd probably put Washington ahead of him.
I certainly would.
It's hard to put Washington behind anyone
in a list like this.
I'd have Coolidge in the top five.
I think I'd have Reagan in the top five.
Jefferson, I could put in the top five as well.
For sure.
You know, Monroe?
James Monroe?
Not a top five guy.
No.
For me.
Madison?
Madison, I would consider
definitely top 10.
I don't know why he's so...
I mean, like, his...
He's never listed high, though.
Yeah, you know, I think there's a separation.
It's hard for, I think, most people to separate his presidency versus his legacy.
Writing the Constitution.
Yeah, like, you know, he's one of the most important people in our country's history.
Some people rate his presidency a little bit lower.
Yeah.
But his contributions to this country, you'd put him in the top five for sure.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I put Reagan up there.
I would put Coolidge up there for sure.
And I would, my bottom five has got Woodrow Wilson in it.
It's probably got Jimmy Carter in it.
It definitely has LBJ in it.
Yes.
Those names, you can't look.
You can't look past them.
And I think maybe the best president of all time was William Henry Harrison because he was only in there for a month and he couldn't screw things up.
He's the only one.
Right.
Right.
If I had.
How if we did monthly presidents?
Maybe we should think about this as a real long-term trend.
Best month as a president.
Yeah.
I think, though, that's the term limit we go with.
Four weeks.
You could be president for four weeks and then you get a second four week term and then you're term limited out i like it we'd have a lot of elections though i don't think i could take the election ads in this in this format this is like what they do in israel right now they just hey wait what if we just throw another election next week let's just plan having a weekly election for the president you know let's see if that guy can put together a government and then the next guy uh in another month will we'll elect him see if he can put one together maybe we shouldn't.
This is a crazy idea for a lot of these parliamentary democracies, but maybe you don't have the president putting together a government.
Maybe that's not the way the system should work.
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe let the people
elect representatives into a government
and then you go with what the people elect.
This is one of the most fascinating things about how the world has developed, I think, which is
the United States comes out of nowhere.
This is July 4th, right?
We We come out of nowhere.
We're the upstart kids in town.
We take over the league, right?
MVP every single year.
And so few countries have decided to just emulate what we're doing.
Followed up plan.
Like they all try these little mixes on it.
They all have a little different way of going about it.
I mean, they've all moved from monarchies toward democracy.
I mean, the world as a whole has gotten a lot better since the U.S.
came through, and we've had a lot of that influence.
But they all, a lot of them just stick around with this like parliamentary democracy system, all these things.
Like, look, you know what you should do?
Look at our Constitution, put it when it says United States, change it to your name or your country.
That's what you should do.
Go in there, take the document, control H, I think it is, which is find and replace.
Okay.
Find United States, replace with Uganda or whatever country you are, and then go with it.
Yeah.
That's easy.
Now, you want to tweak a thing here or there.
I can understand it.
Maybe your culture's a little bit different, but we've set this up pretty well.
You've seen this works, right?
We've basically been
a superpower forever.
Forever.
And people are just like, what if we try something totally different?
What if we put...
What about if we do a Constitution on Twitter?
What if we did that?
Let's have a panel of kings.
We have nine kings and they could all.
It's like, why?
Just do what we've done.
We've told you how to do it.
It works.
Right.
You all,
it's like, well, we're going going to have totally different laws.
But at the same time, I want to mention, all of our people should be able to illegally cross the border to go into that place all the time.
And it's hateful if you don't allow them to do it.
Wait, you could just have this where you are.
It's not the land that has made this place great.
It's not the location.
It's not the climate.
It's the Constitution and the founding documents that have made this place great, among other things.
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Pat Grant and Stubergere for Glenn on the Glen Beck program today.
You know, you might think the lyrics today are a little bit iffy and
some maybe aren't appropriate to be hearing on the radio.
You had a list of some songs that
spin diddy went through that
when you look at the lyrics, and these are all songs that you probably knew as a kid or growing up, and
it probably didn't hit you that they were anything special or anything outrageous.
But when you look at them today with today's eyes, they're pretty outrageous.
Yeah, this all started from a
thing that happened in the news recently about Indiana Jones.
They're doing a new Indiana Jones movie right now, which thankfully, because the Crystal Skull was one of the worst movies ever made.
So I kind of want them to at least attempt to try to salvage the series after what they just did to it.
But they're going through this, and they talk to Marion from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
You know, she was obviously his love interest in this movie.
And
listen to this scene and see, just listen, do some math in your brain as you listen to this scene.
Hello, Marion.
Indiana Tom.
Always knew someday you'd come walking back through my door.
I never doubted that.
Something made it inevitable.
So what are you doing here in Nepal?
I need one of the pieces your father collected.
I learned to hate you in the last ten years.
Ten years?
I never meant to hurt you.
I was a child.
I was in love.
Wait.
It was wrong and you knew it.
You knew what you were doing.
Now I do.
This is my place.
Get out.
Mohan.
Same group.
Bully on on them
i did what i did you don't have to be happy about it but maybe we can help each other out now
so
me oh okay all right i did what i did you knew you knew what you were doing i she just said she was a child child
wait a minute now she what she's maybe 28 now 30 she is saying oh wait they're now they're doing interviews but so the the what what prompted this is like this is like the of course dumb ending to the me too saga saga, where now they're criticizing Indiana Jones, who is a fictional character, right, for his apparent sexual assault of
Marion when she was too young.
So they've now asked Marion, the actor who portrayed her,
wait, were you like, was there statutory rape going on?
What happened?
And she says she was 16.
So
she was 26 in the actual movie.
10 years ago was 16.
Wow.
Now Glenn somehow dug out some of the conversations about this scene from like the planning of the movie.
And apparently George Lucas was like pushing for her to be like 11.
What?
Like she's like 21 in the movie and it was 10 years ago and she was 11.
And all the other writers are like, oh, I don't know if 11's the right number, guy.
I think that might be a little
bit different.
Lucas is like, how about 12?
No.
No.
So they eventually got him to like 15 or 16 for what?
And it doesn't mean anything in the plot, right?
It's like it's totally, he was just apparently wanting to write a lot about something very weird.
So
this got us thinking about how these things have changed.
Because remember, Indiana Jones came out in the 80s, but it took place in the 30s.
So in the 30s, standards were quite.
quite different.
But even since the 80s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, standards have have changed quite a bit.
Some of the songs that were released back then could not come out today.
They just, it would not happen.
Should we go through some of these?
Yeah.
Some of them are kind of amazing.
Okay, Under My Thumb, The Rolling Stones.
Yeah, from 1966.
It's about a power struggle between this couple.
And at the time of its release, it was criticized by feminists even back then for subjugating the woman to
being like a quote squirming dog.
Probably wouldn't do that.
So you couldn't do that today, and apparently they didn't even like it back in 1966.
It's not all sexual stuff, though.
Like for like in the summertime.
There's fine.
So if you sang along to that song before, you've probably said, have a drink.
Have a drive.
Which is again, like, you're not in that order.
You're not really supposed to do that.
Go out and see what you can find.
If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal.
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel.
Okay.
Yeah, not appropriate.
No, no.
Now, from the Beatles, the song Run for Your Life.
I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man.
Kind of not cool.
Yeah, seems like a little over the line.
Yeah.
Getting better with the Beatles has I used to be cruel to my woman.
I beat her
and kept her apart from the things that she loved.
You psychopath.
That had to be Ringo.
Ringo, I think, came up with that lyric.
Because he's in here again later on.
Of course, Your Squaw is on the Warpath by Loretta Lynn.
I think Getting Better was McCartney's song.
Really?
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe I just feel like Ringo had a...
It doesn't seem super appropriate, though.
Even
in 1967, you could say that?
That doesn't seem right.
Not at all.
Your Squaw is on on the Warpath by Loretta Lynn has, well, you leave me at home to keep the TP clean.
Then you've got, I mean, some of these are Ahab the A-rab, which was by Ray Stevens, a comedy song
that he kind of changed the pronunciation of Arab because Ahab doesn't rhyme with Arab.
So you had to say Ahab the Arab.
The A-rab.
And of course, that's not how you pronounce it, and they take offense to that.
Now, Short People by Randy Newman.
Come on.
Jokey and silly.
Jokey and silly.
And it was
an ironic song.
He was being ironic throughout it.
Brown Sugar by the Rolling Stones.
Now, this one has made news before.
I've thought about this one many times.
The song features so many taboo subjects, including forced sex with an underage slave girl.
Probably not the topic you want to lead a very well-known song with.
Some of these, though, are like not as well-known.
One in a Million by Guns N' Roses.
I don't remember it.
I don't either.
1988 rock song describes Axel Rose's experience getting hustled at a Greyhound bus station when he first came to Los Angeles.
In the lyrics, the following groups are denigrated.
The police.
Well, that one you can totally still do.
Totally okay to do that one.
Black people.
And he uses the N-word.
Okay, that's not okay.
Immigrants and gays calling them the F-word for gays in the song.
Not good.
Not, would not be done
today, in my opinion.
Not acceptable.
China Girl by David Bowie.
Yeah.
Hard to believe.
These days, China girls are Asian women, of course.
You can't say China Girl anymore.
But
he's saying, now he says that this was about
ridiculing stereotypes of Asian people.
So almost in the short people sort of
genre?
Yes.
But in the, it's really strange because in the video for the song, he does something with his eyes that you really couldn't get away with today.
I mean,
you would be canceled.
Yeah,
your songs would not be purchased any longer.
Stop A-A-P-I hate David Bowie.
Yes, that's what I say.
Please.
Island Girl by Elton John.
It's about a Jamaican woman who is, quote, black as coal
who works as a prostitute in Manhattan.
A black boy is trying to take her, again,
black boy boy is trying to take her back to the island and asks, what are you wanting with a white man's world?
Probably not going to work today.
Dire Strike's Money for Nothing is well known.
You may remember this.
They use the F-word for
gaze multiple times.
Multiple times.
Now, that was taken out even back then on some radio stations.
Others just let it play, which you couldn't possibly do today.
I think, and if I understand right, I think they're still playing the song the way it is, which is somewhat surprising if they are.
Yeah, it is, yeah.
With the F word in it, not leaped at all.
Because, I mean, it's one thing to play a song the way it was, it's another thing to perform it live today.
Yeah,
yeah, that's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
It's changing these things.
What does it do?
Does it actually help society?
Probably not.
No, but usually, you know, just these artists don't want to be on video doing it.
Right.
Ringo Starr.
You're 16.
There was a lot of these back in the 70s.
Yes, a lot of these.
About 16-year-olds.
I don't know why.
Why, Pat?
I don't know.
In fact, the song My Shirona by The Knack in 1979 kind of got that band shut down even back then because they were singing about young girls all the time.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that going on.
And they're like, okay, that's creepy.
That's weird.
That was your 16, you're beautiful in your mind.
Yes.
Okay.
For Ringo Star.
Fat Bottom Girls by Queen.
Now, you think that one would be banned because it is
questionable because you're fat shaming.
That's what I would think when I would hear that.
However, no, this is the lyrics of the song.
But I knew love before I left my nursery.
Wow.
Okay.
Left alone with Big Fat Fanny.
She was such a naughty nanny.
He big woman, you made a bad boy out of me.
So this young man seems to have been raped.
That's what I would say occurred.
You wouldn't think that they'd sing a fun rock song about it later on.
No, you wouldn't sometimes these things occur.
I mean, don't stand so close to me by the police.
Great song, but the subject matter is
not great.
Yeah.
A schoolgirl and a teacher twice her age cross a dangerous line by having an illegal and appropriate affair.
Inappropriate affair.
Not appropriate.
And I don't think he ever does in the song.
Does he?
He's trying to resist her, basically.
He's trying to talk himself out of it, basically, is what I would say.
How about Father Figure from George Michael, 1987?
I don't remember this line in the song.
That's all I wanted.
But sometimes love can be mistaken for a crime.
So he's basically saying, this is like the Nambla argument.
You know, hey, look, I mean, it's love.
You guys are saying it's a crime.
It's actually love.
Not a great idea.
Young Girl by Gary Puckett in the Union Gap.
Young girl, get out of my life.
Yeah.
So, young girl, get out of my mind.
My love for you is way out of line.
Uh-oh.
Better run, girl.
You're much too young, girl.
Yeah.
Yeah, with all the charms of a woman, so she's not a woman.
You've kept the secret of your youth.
You've led me to believe you're old enough to give me love, and now it hurts to know the truth.
They just did that all the time.
How does this happen in the 60s and 70s?
All these guys thought about were 14-year-olds.
What is going on?
My Shirona, we talked about a little bit.
Hot legs from Rod Stewart.
Hot legs, bring your mother to 17 years old.
He's trudging 64.
I don't remember that, Lyric.
I don't either.
I don't think I knew that that's what he said until this moment.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, that's unfortunately what he said.
How about Stray Cat Blues?
1968 Rolling Stones.
Yeah.
I can see that you're 15 years old.
No, I don't want your ID.
My God.
And I've seen that you're so far from home, but it's no hanging matter.
It's no capital crime.
I don't think that's the standard here.
No, Mick.
And it kind of is a capital crime today.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.