Best of The Program | Guests: Dr. Robert Malone & Mark Morgan | 6/25/21

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Former school board member Simon Campbell joins after his explosive testimony in defense of the First Amendment went viral. Dr. Robert Malone, who invented mRNA vaccines, joins after being silenced for warning that information about the COVID-19 vaccines is being hidden from you. Former acting CBP commissioner Mark Morgan talks VP Kamala Harris’ trip to the border and the firing of Border Patrol head Rodney Scott.
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One of the highlights, at least of my week, was listening to a guy.

He's a former member of the Pensbury Pennsylvania School Board.

He spoke up about the draconian

moves that the school board up in Pensbury was taking to silence free speech.

I want you to listen to a part of this, and then I'm going to introduce you to Simon.

Now, you snowflakes apparently have a bigger problem with public comment.

It seems to me that you think you can supersede the United States Constitution.

Well.

I've got news for you, school board president Benito Mussolini.

Your power does not supersede that of the U.S.

Constitution and the First Amendment rights of the citizens of this great nation.

Let's be very, very clear who has the power.

It is not government policy.

Do not warn me or do not

interrupt my time.

That is

personal insults like that.

If you interrupt my time,

this is my comment, not your comment.

I'm quoting to you now from the United States Supreme Court 1964 case, New York Times versus Sullivan.

This is constitutional case law in this country.

And I'm I'm quoting you from the U.S.

Supreme Court.

The judges wrote that this nation is founded on the, quote, profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues shall be uninhibited, robust, and wide open.

And that it may well include vehement, caustic and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials.

That's constitutional case law in this nation.

I don't have to be nice to you.

Nobody behind me has to be nice to you.

If you don't like living in the United States of America, then you can all move to Russia, Cuba, or China.

This is the First Amendment.

Well, this guy is incredible.

I will caution you, solicitor.

There is a video camera to my left.

If you edit this tape, then you're going to have a big legal problem on your hands because my right to critique your fascism, which is what this is, is constitutionally protected.

There are emails, public record emails, in which the director of equity is lobbying and advocating for public comment to be censored in this school district.

And you know what?

Okay, stop.

This, I understand, and I'm going to bring Simon Campbell in.

Hello, Simon.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

I want you to know that I'm very calm today.

I've had my cup of tea, so I should be good.

You were fantastic, but tell me if this is true.

I have heard that that was spur of the moment.

You didn't have any planned remarks.

This happened because you talked to a mom in the hallway before the meeting started.

Is that true?

That's absolutely correct.

You can tell I was not reading off of the script.

I'm known locally as a little bit of an activist, a loudmouth, but I was talking to this everyday mom in the entranceway of the school board meeting.

She had wanted to speak at the earlier meeting in May,

but she had witnessed the thuggery that had taken place at that meeting.

And we're trying, by the way, we're trying to get the tape of that meeting because apparently it's even worse than what happened with me, where the school solicitor, who's supposed to be the taxpayer-funded counsel, is the one doing the dirty work of these radical fascists.

When I say dirty work, shouting people down, saying you can't speak, and then editing and cutting the tape of the school district's meeting.

So she told me in the entranceway, she was too intimidated to speak at the meeting the month before.

And she's an ordinary everyday mom, too intimidated in this country to express your views to the government.

And I said to myself, right, they've got it coming.

And that's kind of what happened.

Holy cow.

And just

this doesn't sound like a Brooklyn accent.

And

knowing that I think that your favorite politician was Margaret Thatcher,

you're from the UK.

How long have you been here?

And

do you realize you probably know more about freedom than the average American?

Well, I've been here since 2004 and I was naturalized in January 2009.

And I always make the point, that day when I was naturalized, there was about 60 of us in Philadelphia from over 30 countries, many of whom had tears in their eyes.

Their family members and friends were there.

And you really get a sense in that room of what it means to be an American.

And so I always think about that moment when I'm mouthing off like I did at the school board meeting that here you have people who have escaped from, you know, knows what kind of countries that are finally free.

So, you know, for me, I was born and raised in the UK.

My favorite politician of all time is Margaret Thatcher.

As my parents would say, you can't say her name without raising the glass, you know, raise the glass.

But

yeah, I mean, I was on that school board and, you know, I got hammered because I wasn't the biggest fan of the teachers' union.

And and I just took it in stride because that's what you do in America.

You're a public official, you know, they called me the bastard child of Margaret Thatcher.

I thought it was the greatest compliment ever.

So, you know, snowflakes, they don't want it.

So,

tell me your stance on what is happening there beyond the why are they why are they trying to hide things from the public?

Why are they trying to silence?

What is going on in your community?

Well,

there's a local activist group of parents, I guess, that are upset around what's become known as critical race theory, all these books in this curriculum.

And

the school district has promoted someone to this position they call director of equity, diversity, and education.

I think that's a ridiculous job title.

I don't know what these job titles mean to me, you know.

But anyway, they were all upset about the proposed book.

Well, it it just sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

And by the way, that's not a rude word because it comes with my favorite album.

But

they were all upset about this.

And

I came along and

they were telling me about how they were being shouted down in the May meeting, the one that we haven't got the tape for.

Apparently, the school solicitor was saying things like, you're not allowed to say critical race theory.

Now, we're trying to get the videotape of this.

So this thuggery is going on.

And I show up at this sort of parents' house ahead of the school board meeting, and I said, okay, well, you what you all need to do, and we're kind of going over the tactics, speak at public comment.

They're not allowed to shut you up.

They can't silence you.

This is America.

You know, I sort of like kind of help out with how to deal with these people.

So I don't know why

they are cutting the tape.

So if you go to Pensbury School District's website for the May meeting and the March meeting, they've literally cut out

speakers who spoke at public comment on this issue.

Cut them off the tape.

I'm just like, I have got images in my head of 1930s Germany burning books, banning speech.

And for me personally, before I even get into the critical race theory debate, I'm in, we've got fascists in my local community head thinking.

You know, and so I just got all riled up on the First Amendment side of it.

But clearly, they don't want to be on this, otherwise, it wouldn't be kind of dangerous.

Some people would hear you call somebody fascist, and they'll say, okay, that's over-dramatic.

Why are you using that word?

Well, because they are, we have emails, I put them on my YouTube channel.

The director of equity, this is the lady that crafted a press release behind the scenes.

We got all the information behind the right to no law inside the government, where a citizen had spoken in March, very soft-spoken citizen, not a loudmouthed Brit like me,

just against the policy agenda, right?

And this director of equity, the tolerance lady, goes to the school board president and the superintendent and says, that guy is a racist.

The way that he spoke at public comment in March was like racist dog whistling.

Here's how we need to shut him down and others like him.

And I think it would be good if the school board president put out a public statement.

So the public statement from the school board president going out to the whole community, basically accusing this guy of being a racist when he isn't, I've met him, He's a lovely nice bloke.

And I'm

watching this going on.

How can you have a society, a freedom, a place called America, where the government is itself issuing press statements that literally say, if you come down and speak against us, we're going to shame you, we're going to name you, we're going to call you a racist, we're going to put out public press statements, and we're going to cut you from the videotape.

Now, if that's not fascism, Glenn, you tell me what is fascism.

Simon, why did you come to America?

And

what's going through your mind as you're watching your new country now

go down this path?

Well, I came to America because my wife's from Brooklyn, and she married.

We met in England, and so she brought back a permanent souvenir.

So

when I came.

I just go back to the naturalization ceremony.

That's where you get a sense of what America's about.

That's where you get, because they give you this book

at the ceremony, you know, and it says something.

I always remember this one quote.

This is former presidents of America.

And they give you these quotes, these inspirational quotes.

And the one from Reagan stood out to me the most.

He said something like,

you can move to France, but you'll never become a Frenchman.

You can move to Italy, but you'll never become an Italian.

He said, but anyone from any corner of the world can move to America and become an American.

And I think that that quote sums it up for me because America is about a set of ideals.

Not about who you are, what you look like, what your immigrant background is, what your skin color is.

It's about an idea, and the idea is freedom.

And so when I see the most repugnant attack on freedom in my local community, And I can tell you, this has riled everybody up in my community.

Well, I guess it's gone viral now.

I mean, I don't even,

quite frankly, my head's spinning with this whole thing.

I've got like, you know, 100 people on my YouTube channel.

I put this up there, and my daughter's like, dad, you're at 1.2 million on TikTok.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

Well, I think people are thirsty for it.

Real quick,

can you speak directly to the parent or to the American that is still perhaps on the sideline, wants to stand up, but they just don't want to, they don't want to face this.

They don't want to be a part of it.

They're afraid their kid will be singled out or whatever.

Talk to that person for a second.

Yeah.

The thing I would say is take 10, 20, 30 of your friends with you and do not back down and videotape them.

Most public school boards are required to be open to the public.

And in Pennsylvania, I'm sure in other states, you can video record these people.

And when you actually show them what they're doing, silencing microphones, telling people you're racist,

when ordinary Americans see the government behaving that way, that's when it's no longer a conservative liberal issue.

That's when it's, are you American or not?

And I think that ordinary citizens, take your cell phones down,

go hunt in packs, if you will.

You know, take 10, 20, 30 people there.

We probably had 100 parents at that school board meeting, most of whom had never been to one before.

And I think there's just power in numbers because no matter what one's position is on a policy, when the government is silencing people, intimidating them,

that's when that's when the radical left lose mainstream America.

Simon, thank you so much.

I hope we get an opportunity to speak again.

Thank you for what you're doing in your community, and I'm proud that you're an American.

Welcome.

Thanks a lot, Claire.

This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

Dr.

Robert Malone,

he is the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology.

He has been speaking out about

the

effects, possible effects of this COVID vaccine.

We welcome him to the program.

Doctor, how are you?

Good.

Thank you, Mr.

Beck, for the opportunity to speak to your wide audience and yourself about these various issues of censorship and free speech and bioethics and government transparency.

I have to tell you, one of the things that I am

really concerned about

in our world of advancing technology is: I don't think people have enough conversations on the ethics of what we're doing, the ethics of what we're experimenting with, and what the ramifications will be of some of this new technology.

And it's disturbing because we're entering places where no man has ever gone before,

and we're just trying things out, and it sounds awfully dangerous.

So,

I,

as you've noted, I'm always skating on the thin ice of censorship.

And

as a professional in this area, I work with the government quite a bit.

It's how I make my living.

And, Glenn, please understand, I'm not somebody who seeks media attention.

This has been thrust on me because my friend Brett Weinstein had me on his Dark Horse podcast, and it went viral.

It hit 800,000 people before YouTube pulled it down a week later.

And ever since then, I have hardly had a life.

My social media accounts have exploded.

I'm constantly getting calls from patients and doctors.

And somehow I'm become

somebody who can give voice to a lot of the concerns.

that the medical community has worldwide but is not able to talk about.

And the bioethics has been one of the other

key kind of wedges.

I think it was

on Dark Horse when the point was raised, you know, this metaphor of the red pill.

And for a lot of folks, if they think through the bioethics part, then suddenly it opens their mind and they say, oh, this isn't right.

And now, in a lot of times, they know intuitively that something doesn't feel right about how this is being handled.

But when they kind of get the tools, you walk them through the logic, then they get it.

So walk us through the logic.

Yeah, so it's really simple.

I'll try to say it quick.

We can get into the weeds of it, but these are the main high points.

First off,

all of the vaccines in the United States are under emergency use authorization.

So I can tell you as a professional in regulatory affairs and clinical development, what that means is they're all experimental.

So the statements that this is the largest experiment ever performed on human beings in terms of medical intervention, that's all true.

That's not hyperbole.

It's just the fact.

So they're all experimental.

They're not yet licensed.

Therefore, they fall under a federal law called the Common Rule.

It's in the CFR.

You can look it up.

And that goes all the way back to the Nuremberg Code, et cetera, through to the present.

And it has three main precepts.

Number one, there has to be full transparency, full disclosure of risk.

Just like when you open a bottle of aspirin and you see that little insert piece of paper, or you listen to the ad on the TV, and 10 seconds of the ad is about the drug, and the remaining 50 seconds is about all the caveats of the things that can happen.

And you'll recall that it gets down into the weeds.

It talks about things that hardly would ever happen.

That's the level of disclosure about risk that you have to be given by federal law if you're going to participate in any kind of a clinical experiment, which is what this is.

That's point number one, full disclosure of risk.

Point number two, we can't hide those risks behind fancy medical words.

So I can throw all kinds of medical jargon at you and make your head spin about dysmenorrhea, for instance, or

a number of other terms that relate to thrombocytopenia.

How many of you know what those things mean?

Okay, well, what it means is the first one that your menses are irregular, and the second one means that your blood platelets are low and you're in danger of clotting and having strokes and stuff like that.

Okay, so the second part of the rule is that these risks have to be conveyed in common language so that a person of about eighth-grade education can understand it.

There has to be comprehension.

Third part of the rule, this gets straight at the kind of liberties that we all fortunately still share here in the West.

You have to freely consent to taking the agent.

You cannot be coerced.

What is coercion?

Coercion is, oh, we're going to give out ice cream and so that all the kids can come and we can give them jabs without getting the parents'

consent.

That's one form.

Another form is, in Canada, for example, they have a policy that communities have to stay on lockdown until at least 70% of them have taken them jab.

Okay, that's called coercion.

It's not allowed.

You have to consent to participate in medical experimentation of your own free will.

Last little caveat.

You ever heard of the age of consent?

And here in the States, it's usually about 18.

What that means is people that are under the age of consent cannot give informed consent.

They must have informed consent provided by a parent or guardian.

Those are the rules.

It's in the federal law.

So that's my quick and dirty on bioethics.

We can go on and on about it.

There's a lovely video from Tony Fauci that somebody pointed out to me on a podcast where he goes all over this in detail.

So we can't say that the federal government and the leadership is not aware of the fundamentals of bioethics.

Over.

So they would say, though, that we have an emergency and we have got to do something.

And that always leads to trouble when we have to do something.

And I'm not anti-vaccine,

but

I don't feel like we're getting all of the information.

And they haven't even said,

what about people who have already had COVID?

I mean, I have natural immunity.

I know that instinctively, but they keep changing

and not wanting to talk about those people.

Instead, you're just supposed to get the vaccine.

And so something does feel wrong.

If you want to take the vaccine, you should be able to take the vaccine.

But if not,

if you you don't want to take it or you don't want your kids taking it, you shouldn't have to.

Bingo, it's your body.

You get to decide.

Those are the rules.

The state doesn't own your body.

And I want to underscore what you just said.

I also live in Twitterverse, et cetera, in addition to trying to be a professional.

And

many people, there are those who assert that I'm an anti-vaxxer.

Come on, guys.

I invented this technology 30 years years ago.

I've spent my entire career advancing vaccines.

I was seminal in the development of what we now call the Merck Ebola vaccine.

I have a spotless track record in terms of advancing vaccine technology.

However, I'm pro-rights, I'm pro-bioethics, I'm pro-transparency, I'm pro-honesty, and I'm pro-science-based medicine.

And what we've got here, Glenn, and have had from the outbreak.

And I've been through too many of these outbreaks.

I know how it is at the start.

There's no information and everybody has to use expert opinion.

We're way past that.

And what we've had is government officials, sorry, here in DC, we call them gubies,

substituting their opinion for what they think is right or best for actual fact-based decision making, and that gets them in trouble again and again.

And if you don't believe me, all you got to do is look at the FOIA emails that the Washington Post pulled out of Tony's email account.

I'm talking about Dr.

Fauci.

All right.

So you're not anti-vaccine, clearly.

And are you saying that no one should have this vaccine or that we should just be aware of some of the side effects?

I'm not saying these vaccines are saving lives, and thanks for letting me just hit that head-on, okay?

Right.

What I have problems with,

and Glenn,

I mentioned this on Tucker's show, and I'd like to amplify it just a little bit on your show, if you don't mind.

And I checked in with some FDA colleagues last night just to make sure that I was still representing what they understand to be truth.

And these are very senior people.

What we have is a situation in which the databases, this is going to

sound kind of wonky, the databases that are supposed to capture the adverse events, that's the bad stuff that happens in time time relating to the vaccine.

It

may or may not be related.

The databases that are supposed to capture this are a train wreck.

They're very poor quality here in the States.

And so when the CDC says that we have this, that, or the other incidence of this, you know, for instance, the recent cardiac problems in adolescents, they're basing that on what, by their own admission, is really faulty data.

We talk about VARS, there's also the v-safe system.

So that is the core problem here is that we don't have good information to make calculations about risk-benefit for different populations.

And folks like you, me, and your listeners, don't have full transparency about what those potential adverse events are.

That's not legal.

They are obligated to share it with us.

My argument is not that you should or shouldn't take the vaccine.

My argument is that you have the right to know and make your own informed decision.

That's the federal law.

It's real simple and straightforward.

Now, I do have concerns

about some of the adverse events that are happening.

I do have concerns, and I think that particularly the Moderna vaccine, the dose is too high.

I think that we need to quickly roll out re-engineered vaccines that no longer have some of these issues.

that are associated with spike protein in both the adenovirus and the mRNA.

They're both based on gene therapy.

I think that we really need to look at re-engineering some of those.

And I think for those of you in the audience who are not comfortable taking a genetic-based vaccine, like the ones that are currently available, I gently suggest, and I have no conflict of interest, no stock in Novavax, but Novavax is a much more traditional vaccine product.

And if you don't want to go down the RNA or AdVector road, I think there's a good chance that the Novavax product is going to get clearance under EUA mid-summer.

So

you know, it's not without hope.

You're not left with vaccine or no vaccine or vaccine or ivermectin, as some people like Brett advocate.

There's other options coming.

So I just want to give that message out.

So you were just talking about a spike in protein.

Respond to this.

Reuters just

ran fact-check COVID-19

vaccines are not, what is it, cytotoxic, cytotoxic?

Cytotoxic, yeah.

So I really, they followed actually PolitiFact was the first one.

And then Reuters comes out.

By the way, Reuters is part of the Trusted News Initiative when we get to talking about censorship.

Okay, so we'll get there soon enough.

Reuters ran this, and they did it based on statements that are really carefully worded and a little obtuse from federal officials.

They didn't actually go to the scientific literature all.

Because apparently what's happened, I'm learning more and more, is with the mainstream media, they've all gotten lazy and they seem to think that it's okay to just parrot whatever their colleagues in the media have said before, as opposed to actually going to the peer-reviewed scientific literature, which clearly, unambiguously, multiple peer-reviewed publications, press release from the Salk Institute, my alma mater, all say that the native spike protein catch my words, they're carefully worded, the native spike protein is cytotoxic, It does open the blood-brain barrier.

It does have multiple problems.

And it's probably associated with the blood coagulation based on the Singapore paper that just came out reporting the adverse event of blood clots in the brain in far too many people that it should be happening in after mRNA vaccination.

Okay, so Reuters, thank you very much.

You've made it really easy for me to fact check the fact checkers because all I have to do is pop open PubMed, do a search, and cite the peer-reviewed literature.

You're wrong.

Now, what was done,

here's the truth.

Then I get the comments.

Oh, but they engineered the spike protein for these vaccines so that it's not toxic.

The problem with that is that that would require time travel because they didn't know at the time that they were doing the engineering that these cytotoxicity and other effects happened.

Okay, so they, yes, they did do some engineering.

I'm not sure that that engineering didn't make it more toxic.

I don't know if it made it less toxic.

Here's the point.

The way it works in drug development is kind of like the French judicial system.

You're guilty until proven innocent.

In drug development, it's assumed that it's toxic until it's proven not to be toxic.

So if you're going to say that the stuff that's expressed in these gene therapy-based vaccines is not toxic like the native spike protein is, it's your obligation to prove it.

Now, I've invited people to post, that are saying these things, to post any peer-reviewed literature, any documentation that shows that FDA has forced the Pharma or Pharma has published or the NIH that engineered the NIH Vaccine Research Center that engineered the Moderna vaccine to post how they prove that it's not toxic.

The data aren't there.

I've never seen it.

I'd be overjoyed to see it.

Then I could put that concern to rest.

But it's one of these, it walks like a duck, it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

And the fact that we have this overlap between the symptoms of COVID, the symptoms of long COVID, the symptoms that are associated with the post-vaccination syndrome with the adenovectors, and some of the symptoms, more rare, perhaps less severe, that also are cropping up with the mRNAs.

What's the common variable?

It is the spike open reading frame protein.

Does that make sense?

Simple stuff.

We're talking to the guy who

invented the

RNA vaccination or the

mRNA vaccination,

and he has been silenced.

Doctor, we have only scheduled a half hour here.

May I ask you to come back?

Because there's so much more to this story and I will clear my schedule.

So

we'd love to do that.

I got to tell you, I get flack about going on conservative media.

Conservative media are the ones that are interested in these topics of free speech, freedom of information, personal rights.

If CNN wants to invite me on, I'll be glad to be on.

I have to tell you, Doctor, this is not a conservative issue, this is not a political issue.

This is a science issue, and we should all be looking for the truth, especially when we are

putting things into people's bodies and not getting the full truth.

You're listening to the best of the Glen Beck program.

Hey, everybody, Kamala Harris is finally going to the border.

She's going to get to the bottom of it.

I'll bet she finds global warming down there.

Mark Morgan

is the former acting

Customs and Border Patrol Commissioner?

We wanted to get him on the phone and get his thoughts on what happened to the latest Commissioner of the Border Patrol, who's just been relieved of his duty.

What happened there?

Also, what does he expect to be happening with

Kamala Harris on her border trip?

Mark, welcome to the program.

Go ahead and thanks for having me.

I really appreciate it.

You bet.

So give me your thoughts.

First of all, what's happening on the border that Americans aren't really aware of because

it's not being covered?

And what happened with

the latest head of Border Patrol when he was let go?

Well, Glenn, first, let me talk about what's happening at the border.

I think what the Americans don't know, and like I'm going to be direct because I don't know any other way to be, because this administration did just flat-out blatant lies.

It's beyond the political spin and misdirection.

It's just flat-out lies.

And I think what's really important is when we talk about securing our borders, Glenn, you know this.

I've heard you talk about this countless times.

It's not just about the illegal immigration threat that we face and that crisis.

When you have borders that are unsecure, those borders, our borders, are unsecure to the vast, complex multitude of threats that we face from outside our borders.

Whether that's criminal aliens coming through and making their way right to every neighborhood, the the drugs pouring through our

southwest border, making their way to every neighborhood.

And I could go on and on.

That is one element that's being hid from the American citizens of this country.

That's why border is secure, and that the threats we face, the issues that we face, do not stay in our southwest border state.

They make their way into every town, city, and state right now.

And it's a total

catastrophic, unmitigated crisis on the southwest border.

And now, so let me switch.

So, Rodney Scott.

So

I was actually the former Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

Rodney Scott is actually the chief of the Border Patrol, which is a component within CBP.

So, but this is important, Glenn.

And I really appreciate you bringing this up:

as the chief of border control, he has about 20,000 men and women underneath him.

He is responsible, directly responsible, ultimately, for our border security.

And here's the key.

It's a career position.

It's a career position of a law enforcement executive.

It's not a political appointee position.

You will find no other federal agency in this government where career officials are treated like political appointees.

This man has a 29-year career.

I know him.

He's a man of integrity and he's a man of courage.

And in this position, he has pushed back on this administration.

He has been very honest and open about his criticisms with respect to what they're doing and how it's impacting their ability to secure our borders.

And this secretary, DHS Secretary Myorkis, look,

if he cannot bully someone, a career official, if he can't turn a career official into no more than a puppet to further his open border policies, he's getting rid of them.

And that's what he's done.

There's no disciplinary action.

He's not doing it for cause.

He's simply doing it because he can't bully Rodney.

It's all political.

And we should be absolutely outraged that this has happened to a career law enforcement official.

How rare is this?

For this to happen.

Glenn, I've been doing this for 35 years.

I've served 20 years in the FBI, and I can tell you, you can take this to the bank, that you could go through all the three-letter law enforcement agencies, whether that's HSI, Under ICE, DEA, FBI, ATF.

Never been done.

Never been done that they've gone to this level of a career law enforcement agency and they've been removed without cause.

Hasn't happened.

So,

why was he fired and removed?

Was it because he was just a thorn in the side, or that he knew what was going on?

There was problems within that he was trying to stop the administration from doing that we don't know of?

Is the whole story just that he was a thorn in the side of the Biden administration?

Yeah,

Glenn, I think you do a good job of just describing it.

Yeah, look, right now, the acting CDP commissioner,

the individual took my position acting right now.

And

this is hard for me to say, but I have to be honest,

he is a puppet.

He is not pushing back on this administration.

The political appointees are running the organization just like they are at ICE.

He is signing off on everything.

He's just a throughput.

He's not pushing back.

He's not giving sound advice and guidance.

He's not telling them that the policies are not effective for border security that's negatively impacting our national security.

Rodney did that.

Now look, Rodney, because he served under six administrations, both a Republican and Democrat.

Now, at the end of the day, he's going to carry out their policies as he's always done.

But as American citizens, Rodney epitomized exactly what we expect

from a career official is that give his

expertise and advice, honest advice

and guidance to the administration and say, if you do this, this is what's going to happen.

If they ignore it, they ignore it, and he'll implement his directive.

But that's not what they want.

That's not enough.

They want a throughput.

They want a puppet.

They want somebody they can bully and control.

Robbie's not that guy.

That's why they're getting rid of him.

Well, it's interesting to me because this is almost a continuation of a conversation I was just having with Dr.

Robert Malone.

He's the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology.

And he's not anti-vaccine.

I mean, he invented this technology.

He's not saying that it's deadly and no one should take it.

He's saying, hey, there's some concerns, but my biggest concern is they're hiding things from you.

And

not necessarily life and death stuff they're hiding.

They're just hiding things.

And they are silencing anyone who has a different opinion or just says, hey, the facts should be known here.

That's a dictatorial government.

And it sounds like that's exactly what's happening on the border.

Glenn, as you were talking, I wish you could see me right now.

I wish your listeners could see me.

I've got a big smile on my face because

I couldn't have come up with a better analogy.

That's exactly right.

Look, like I said, I've been doing this for a long time.

Everyone's the highest levels of leadership positions in federal law enforcement in this country.

I demanded, I made sure that I surrounded myself with people that were not yes people, that people that had their own mind, that people based on their own experiences

would come to the table and say, and I demanded, if you disagree with me, you tell me, and you can see, you can say, okay, sir, you can still be professional, right?

And say, I disagree with you, and here's why I disagree with you.

I always said that then you got to come with a justification and reason and a solution.

That's the type of leader that Rodney Scott is.

And but that's exactly what this Secretary Myericus doesn't want.

He doesn't want any interference.

He doesn't want anybody to say anything that is against his radical, open-border, ideologic

viewpoint that's absolutely going to do anything to stop their agenda.

And I'll tell you, you can tell I'm fired up because another thing, too, is I know Rodney Scott.

He's a good man, Glenn.

And this is wrong.

And if they can do this to a career-long face,

I mean, they just ended his career for no reason, no cause.

Rodney has gotten the highest senior executive service performance evaluations ever since he was appointed to the SES ranks.

The highest marks.

There's not been a derogatory performance evaluation.

They cannot point to one issue on his performance

evaluation that would justify this.

It's all about politics.

Let me change subjects.

The vice president went down to Latin America and gave some beautiful speeches where she said, don't come, don't come.

However,

you know,

my father used to say, it's not your words, it's your actions.

So, son, you can tell me anything, but I see the way you're living your life.

I see the way you're acting, and that's all that matters.

I think the same thing

can be said for those people who want to come to America illegally or just want to come to America and they find this is an easy path.

She may say these things, but are they taking any steps to slow this problem down?

So Glenn, both of those points are spot on.

Look,

it's a joke.

Let's be honest.

I mean,

the cartels and human smuggling organizations, I mean, they're laughing at this administration, right?

And the words, don't come.

It's even worse than that because they're not saying don't come, right?

So we're talking about those that are intentionally, illegally in our country.

They're not saying don't come.

They're saying don't come yet, right?

So

it's even worse than the fact that it's just words.

I mean, their own words are telling them to still come.

It's just a matter of when you should come.

But look, you know, when your policies absolutely are juxtaposed to what you're saying, the cartels, the human smuggler organizations, they are complex, effective organizations.

They know our immigration laws and policies and loophole better than most American citizens.

They know that what's being said is irrelevant.

It doesn't matter.

They know that policy is what matters.

And they know this administration's policies have dismantled every effective policy authority and tool that we had under the Trump administration, and that our borders are effectively open.

If you're an unaccompanied minor, the borders are open.

If you're a family, the borders are open.

If you were previously enrolled in the Remain in Mexico program, the borders are now open to you.

And I could go on and on.

The cartels know it, the immigrants know it, and they're exploiting that every single day.

And every time I see say that, it's just a joke.

The vice president's trip, she's avoided it and avoided it and avoided it.

And then Donald Trump said he was going to go down, and all of a sudden she's interested in going to the border.

What do you expect to see this weekend or

anything?

What's going to happen this weekend, do you think?

I think we're going to see a lot of nice

pictures and photo opportunities and sound bites where she's talking to non-governmental organizations and other open border advocates.

You may see her tour an area that does not have a wall behind it or a facility that is pristine and is not overcrowded.

I mean, Glenn, come on, right?

Let's be honest.

You just said it.

I think the majority of the American people, the really honest,

see this for what it is.

This is all absolutely the White House scrambled around trying to deal with the optics, political optics now being driven because President Trump said he's going.

Look,

it was just a few days before this vice president was, I mean, physically laughing, laughing and joking about the absolute unmitigated crisis of the southwest border and making fun of it and calling it this thing.

And then after President Trump said he's going down, now all of a sudden it's important enough for her to go down.

And look, here's another thing, too.

And I think this is important.

This is not semantics.

Where she's going, Glenn, is important.

She's not going to the epicenter, which is the RGB, the Rio Grande Valley.

That's the epicenter of the crisis, the lower part of Texas.

This fiscal year, almost two hundred seventy-five thousand apprehensions.

They are getting the brunt of it.

If she really wants to see the crisis, that's where she's going.

She's going to El Paso, which is about a thousand miles away.

I mean, literally, that would be like going to a state that just had a catastrophic hurricane, and you're going to the outskirts of the town where buildings haven't been impacted, rather than going to the heart of the epicenter and standing next to buildings and houses that have been destroyed and talking to the people whose lives have been destroyed instead of people who their house is still intact and they really weren't affected.

I mean, that's what it is.

Again, it's all form over substance.

And Glenn, real quick,

what we're not going to hear is we're not going to hear her take responsibility for the crisis.

We're not going to hear her call it a crisis.

We're not going to see her talk to a Democratic elected sheriff for 42 years that's going to say this is the worst crisis he's ever seen in his history along the southwest border and the fact that his deputies have recovered over 40 bodies, dead bodies of immigrants.

We're not going to hear her talk to, right?

We're not going to hear her talk to border security experts, seasoned agents that's just going to say, you know, ma'am, we're getting killed.

We've received over 200,000 gotaways this year.

People have gotten past us because we're being distracted with providing daycare services to families and kids, leaving large areas of the border wide open, or the 7,500 apprehensions of criminal aliens they've done, or the thousand gang members they've arrested.

And those that get away make make them way make themselves into every town, city, and the state.

That we're not going to hear.

And the last thing I'll say is that

I know we're not going to hear is any specific policy action that they're going to take to stem the flow and address the crisis.

We're not going to hear that.

Mark Morgan, former acting

customs and border protection commissioner,

visiting fellow from the Heritage Foundation.

Thank you so much for talking to us.

And please pass on

my feelings to every Border Patrol agent out there.

And I think I speak for millions of people on this.

We appreciate what they're going through.

We understand as much as we possibly can.

And we are behind them.

Please don't give up on the rest of America and doing their job.

God bless, Mark.

Thank you so much.

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