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Hey, it's Pat Ray coming up on the Glen Beck program today.

We started off the show by talking about a former psychiatrist, Aruna Kilinani, who is just a delightful, a lovely person, spewing racist hatred towards white people during a speech at Yale's Child Study Center.

Also, Glenn goes into how we can fight this kind of thing, fight against these evils in our world and continue to survive.

Really important stuff during that hour.

And while on MSNBC, Dr.

Fauci criticized the recent criticism of him after his email scandal because an attack on him, he says, an attack on me is an attack on science.

Plus,

we talked to David Petruzza, a historian, some great stuff on here on the 77th anniversary yesterday of D-Day.

And he gives a quick history lesson of that day that many schools aren't even teaching anymore.

That and a lot more coming up on the podcast today.

You're listening to the best of the benefit program.

So, our gratitude goes to Barry Weiss for exposing this.

Barry Weiss is not a conservative.

She was with the New York Times, and she had to leave there because she was starting to come under attack.

And she has, she's liberal.

She's liberal, and so she has been speaking out against the insanity that the left now has embraced.

Pat, I know you, you saw this this weekend as well, so I'd love your comments.

I'm gonna play,

I'm gonna play some cuts here from this lecture.

This is from a

psychiatrist and psychoanalyst out of New York City.

She's speaking at the Yale School of Medicine.

Now,

why is this a problem?

Well,

if you have time today, just look up the T4 program.

I think it's T4.

Is it T4 T2 pack?

Could you look that up?

It is the beginning of the extermination camps in Germany.

You see, those weren't started by guys in black uniforms.

They were the exact opposite.

All of that, all of the Holocaust, it all started with people in white uniforms and scrubs.

They were the doctors and the nurses.

And already the AMA has said they're putting critical race theory into the medical profession.

The guy who used to be the chief editor of the journal of AMA has been fired.

He's been there for years.

Sorry, he hasn't been fired.

He retired after he spoke out and said, We can't put this into the medical field.

You can't inject politics and you can't inject CRT.

He then suddenly decided to retire on his own.

This is now being exposed, thank goodness, by Barry Weiss.

And

this is only the beginning of this.

If we don't all stand up, here she is

giving a lecture on the

psychopathic problem of the white mind.

I'm going to play these in reverse, please, for Engineering on Television.

Let's play cut,

what is it, five, please?

We need to remember that directly talking about race to white people is useless because we're at the wrong level of conversation.

Addressing racism assumes that white people can see and process what we are talking about.

They can't.

That's why they sound demented.

They don't even know they have a mask on.

White people think it's their actual fate.

We need to get to know the mask.

Black rage has nothing to do with black people and everything to do with white people.

Okay.

All right.

So talking to white people.

See, her whole idea here is that white people are literally out of their minds.

And so, like CRT, there's no redemption.

You can't save them because they're so far gone.

They are, racism is part of who they are.

That why talk to them?

Now, I want you to understand:

if you think someone is too far gone, that you can't even talk to them, and they are the biggest threat to your life,

What options are left for you?

Can you coexist?

Can you coexist with someone who wants you dead?

Can you coexist with somebody who wants you to be their slave?

Can you coexist and have a neighbor that is psychotic

and doesn't even know it

and is working against you and your race

24-7

If I can't talk to them, if there is no saving them, then I either have to put them in a camp

or chain them up

or kill them.

Cut four.

So white people are out of their minds, and they have been for a long time.

So we're not in a psychological predicament because white people feel that we are blaming them when we bring up race.

They feel that we should be thanking them for all that they have done for us.

They are confused, and so are we.

Can you hear me okay?

Yes?

Okay.

We keep forgetting that directly talking about race is a waste of our breath.

We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a faint or a superhero to accept responsibility.

It ain't going to happen.

They have five holes in their brain.

It's like banging your head against a brick wall, just like sure is not a good idea.

Let me restate again exactly what she said verbatim.

We are now in a psychological predicament because white people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race.

They feel that we should be thanking them for all that we have done, all that they have done for us.

I don't feel that way.

Pat, do you know anyone that feels that way?

No.

I've never seen it.

I've never heard it.

No.

I have.

You know who probably does feel that way?

The people in the White House

who are saying that

black people can't get an accountant.

They can't get a lawyer.

So those people probably do think that they should be thanked for all that they are doing because they're saying that black people can't do it on their own.

That's not a conservative.

That's not a constitutionalist.

That's not the Americans that I know.

Okay, he said, they are, she went on, she said, they are confused, meaning white people, and so are we.

We keep forgetting that directly talking about race is a waste of our breath.

We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero to accept responsibility.

Now, let me flip this around.

I know there are a lot of people that think, how are we going to deal with these Marxists?

Because they'll never change their mind.

How are you going to deal with Antifa?

Well, Antifa, if they won't change their mind, if they won't come and see the light of what their violence really is and what they're advocating for,

there's only really one thing you can do, and that is put them in prison

because they're breaking the law.

But if they're demented and a violent predator who think they are a saint or a superhero

and they won't accept responsibility, they have to go to jail or worse.

That's what she's saying about all white people.

She said, it ain't going to happen because they have five holes in their brain.

It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

It's just sort of like not a good idea.

Next cut, please.

Why are white people so confused by black rage?

More importantly, why do white people have so little empathy towards black rage?

In 1846, Shirtela begged white women to just shut up.

White women cannot stop talking for longer than five minutes because they think that they are here to teach us about white privilege.

And I saw the same type of thinking in all white people in the institutions I was at.

But now I got some tools.

So let's just say I got a roadmap to the white minds.

Are you out of your mind if you can't see that?

You know, all I keep thinking is

what you believe, so shall it be.

So whatever it is that you believe,

she believes that she is surrounded by

lunatics, that all whites are lunatics and they're everywhere.

Of course, that's exactly what she'll find, because she won't have a reasonable conversation with anyone.

Cut to please.

Around five years ago, I took some action.

I systemically, systematically, I'm going to do.

White-ghosted most of my white friends, and I got rid of a couple white BIPOCs that snuck in my throat, too.

I stopped watching the news.

Once I started, I couldn't stop.

I had less than 1% left.

It was also public service.

I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, daring their body

and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively giftless.

With a sound of myself, like I did the world of

work.

Okay, so there's two things she's saying here.

The first, she said, in real life, she's gotten rid of all of her white friends.

She's gotten rid of all of her white friends.

So now

you are completely isolated.

You're isolating yourself.

You're not allowing yourself to experience anything different.

You know who did this?

The Nazis did this.

The Nazis isolated themselves from Jews.

Do you know the number one reason why people saved Jews in Germany?

What they said verbatim?

Yes, Jews are bad, but I know this one, and this one isn't bad.

They had so isolated themselves that they had felt that all Jews were bad, except the one they knew.

So, if you're taking people and you're saying, I'm getting rid of all of my white friends, can you imagine if you said, I'm getting rid of all my black friends?

First of all, you'd be a Klan member.

This woman is saying, get rid of all of my

white friends.

She's part of the white clan.

She's part of this

clan that is against white people.

There is no difference between

the

ideology.

There's no difference between what they are advocating.

So she's saying, I'm getting rid of my white friends, but then she says, I fantasized.

Now, she's a psychoanalyst.

So when you're fantasizing about something,

There's a deeper meaning behind this.

There is something psychologically wrong with you.

If we had somebody in school that was writing a paper about how he fantasized on killing all of the kids in his school, we would have him banned from school and he would be in an institution.

Am I wrong on that, Pat?

Any doubt?

No doubt at all.

No doubt.

If I said on the air, I have a fantasy of killing X, Y, or Z,

And and it was part of my rhetoric because these people are so dangerous, whoever these people are, these people are so dangerous, they're insane, they have to be stopped.

There's no dealing with them.

I have this fantasy.

I would lose my job, rightfully so.

She said she has a fantasy where she unloads a revolver into the head of any white person that got in her way,

then burying them, wiping off her hands with a bounce in her step because she had done the people of the world a favor.

Again, this is a lecture from the Yale School of Medicine, the child psychology department.

One more clip, and then I'm going to break.

One people's expectation is that we need to take their attacks with gratitude and apologize for our anger and not we're overly sensitive and crazy.

Our rage is the real problem.

Except nothing makes me angrier than a white person who tells me to not be angry because they have not seen real anger yet.

I did this for years in a psychoanalysis where every time I got angry around rape, this white called me psychotic.

She told me that the problem was that I was, quote, too smart and that I either had to be psychic or psychotic.

Her interpretations had nothing to do with me.

Psychoanalysis was used as a weapon on me to add aspects of her mind, a projection which I'll unpack.

She'd attack me through racist interpretations and then make my anger, quote, the problem.

I spent years unpacking her racism to her while she charged me cash money for years.

And then she'd attempt to, quote, teach me because she had concerns about my anger.

I couldn't get her to shut the f ⁇ up.

This is the cost of talking to white people at all.

The cost of your own life as a sucky dry.

There are no good apples out there.

White people make my blood boil.

Okay, so there's a couple of things that we have to do.

And one of them is not be enraged.

And I know it's really hard.

You know, you have nobody is talking about

the meeting on Black Wall Street that happened last week, where one of the the speakers, in fact, several of the speakers echoed these, but we must fight on every front to

achieve redress and reparations and the atrocities committed upon the Tulsa massacre descendants.

We must intensify the fight

for

reparations for 40 million blacks still affected by racism, inequality, wealth disparity, police brutality, and the like.

It is time for us to kill everything white in sight.

We're pushing death to white supremacy, death to capitalism, death to imperialism, death to fascism.

We're pushing for an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a head for a head, and a life for a life.

Okay.

Nobody's talking about that.

That happened last week.

It's white supremacy that is the biggest threat to America.

You know that not to be true.

First thing you have to do is not be enraged enraged by it because

anger.

Give me Yoda, Pat, will you?

On anger.

Oof.

He saw fear.

Anger leads to

fear.

No.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to fear.

Fear leads to

suffering or something.

Something to that effect.

No, fear.

Fear leads to anger.

Yeah.

So start there.

Fear.

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

Suffering.

Yes, yes, okay.

No, so yes.

No, so we cannot be angry,

but we have to take a stand.

You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.

I was

up at our ranch, which is high up in the mountains in a town of about 500 people on one side and, well, I don't know, maybe a thousand people on the other side.

And

we pick this for a reason.

You know, people are looking for, where can I live?

Where can I live?

We pick this area for a reason because

they're farmers.

They're people that

still work with the soil.

They still rely on God.

Farmers rely on one another and they take care of their own.

And this town is wide awake.

I mean, they're talking about making a smoker to be able to smoke meat,

you know, just

to be able to have it and use it now.

But if things go bad, you'd be able to preserve meat.

They just started in Millad, they just started this last weekend a farmer's market,

which, you know, they were like, I don't know how many people are going to come this weekend.

I don't know, you know, how this is going to go over.

It went well this weekend.

But the reason why they're doing it is because they know that we need to start growing and thinking locally.

They know that, you know, the trucks could stop coming or the trains could stop coming from the cities, and we all need to eat.

I would urge you, if you are in a town, to do what they have done.

Start a farmer's market if you don't have one.

Start attending a farmer's market.

Start growing your own food.

If you're looking to move, find a very small town, particularly of farmers.

And if you can find farmers who are also religious,

the Amish would be a great place to live if it wasn't so close to the East Coast.

Finding people who have

values that are entrenched, generationally entrenched,

and that they are

not worried about their stuff.

They're not worried about anything.

You can find these communities, they are there.

And it is important

that we are living around like-minded people because it's going to get harder and harder.

You know, I remember I went to a Catholic school when I was young,

and

I remember

thinking about, you know, the end of days and, you know, Jesus coming back.

And as a kid, that's terribly frightening.

It's terribly frightening.

And I remember in 2 Timothy, I remember, or 2 Timothy's, if you will,

when

in 2 Timothy, he describes what things are going to be like.

And I really had a hard time.

I had to project out and say, oh, I could see that happening.

If you've ever thought that before, I want you to listen carefully and tell me you don't have to project out anymore.

But understand this: that in the last days will come of difficulty, for people will be lovers of self.

Absolutely true.

Even the best of us,

I mean, I have a hard time, and I know kids are always, you know, me, me, me.

But but I'm I'm concerned as at times with my own kids that they don't necessarily focus on others as much as they should

and neither do I

lovers of self they're lovers of money they're proud they're arrogant they're abusive They're disobedient to their parents.

They're ungrateful.

They're unholy.

They're heartless, unappeasable.

Listen to that one.

They're slanderous, without self-control.

They're brutal.

Not loving good.

Treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit.

Lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.

Having the appearance of godliness, think of that one.

Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power.

May I just say

Joe Biden

saying how he is the guy to stand up for the right and the good?

He is the righteous one.

Do you remember all of the things that he said during the campaign that I'm like, oh my gosh, who would say this?

That he's the light?

But also, he's the guy who stood up and said, there are no miracles coming.

Avoid such people, it says, for among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women.

Now, listen to this, weak women, that, oh, how outrageous, weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions,

always learning, and never able to arrive at the knowledge of truth.

These men will oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind, disqualified regarding the faith.

And then there's this line.

They won't get very far, for their folly will be plain for all to see.

Now I think it is plain for all to see, but how many people

have lost themselves

in some of these descriptions of

the people who are going to be causing the difficulty.

So in thinking about this, I mean that's describing that's describing what

was coming, which I think is here.

All of those descriptions, I could do an hour monologue on just those descriptions, and I can show you how all of us are living some of those horrible things,

and some of us and some

rulers are living all of them right now.

So, if that's what you're not supposed to do,

if that's what you're avoiding,

what should we be concentrating on?

Because I will tell you, just like George Washington in the Badge of Merit, we will not be able to conquer this evil

unless we are on God's side.

If we don't have divine providence, we will not be able to survive.

The things that are arrayed in front of us are no

greater,

no less than what our founders had arrayed against them.

It's a little more difficult because of technology, but they had spies living in their home.

We have spies living in our home.

We have the government living in our home, listening to Amazon, you know, Alexa, or whoever.

So, what do we do?

Well,

people will be lovers of themselves.

So, then that would mean we need to love our neighbor, even if we don't like them.

You know, I

joined my church, and I urge you to find something in your life that will

help you do this.

But I joined my church because a guy who

I had dubbed the amazing Mr.

Plastic Man, I still remember his name, Lenny Asciuto.

And

I didn't think he was real because the first time he said something to me, he said, I just love you so much.

And I was like, oh, back off, dude.

You know, give me 10 minutes and you'll you'll hate my guts.

I was still, I was more of a dry drunk at this point.

But

he had the perfect family, the perfect children.

They all played the piano.

They were all smiles.

And I thought, no one can be like that.

No one can be that happy.

No one.

And one Sunday he was teaching class.

And

I was being stubborn because I didn't want to go to church every Sunday.

I didn't want to join a church.

I haven't joined anything in my entire life.

I didn't want to join a church.

And

Pat will recall, around this time, when I was heavily drinking and until I changed my ways,

my slogan was, Pat, what did we used to always say?

My slogan was, I hate people.

Right.

And I didn't want to be that way.

And it was coming from me, and I knew it.

And

Lenny was teaching a class,

and he said, brethren, how do we get to this place where it's Zion,

where it's bliss?

How do we get there?

What do we have to do to build it?

And a lot of people had answers,

but none of them really stuck.

And then he said,

with tears in his eyes, there's only one way.

If I love you and you love me, me,

we may not know each other, we may not like each other, we may have just met, but we found a way to look into each other's eyes and see the same spirit, the same spark that is in the other,

and we recognize it,

and therefore we love others.

And I realized this guy was not plastic at all.

He was the most genuine man I had ever met.

That was the day I decided that I wanted to be like that.

And I didn't care what it took to be like that, but I wanted to be that way.

If the people are going to be lovers of themselves,

then we have to find that way to love one another, even those we don't like.

Remember, even in the Civil War, the one reason why Lincoln wasn't universally loved,

well, there was a lot of reasons, which is weird.

None of them involved the wart or the beard.

I guess they were better people than we were back then.

I don't know, because we never have a president that looked like that now.

But

he preached love and healing.

That's his second inaugural address.

It's all about healing.

And you know what?

If we lose this, it's because god's ordained it if we lose this war because we've shed too much blood of the slave well then we lose this war

but let's love each other let's do the right let's heal the wounds

uh

that that that could never be said today

if you're going to be lovers of money if that's what the people we're supposed to avoid then we can't love money we must not love things

We must love people.

If the world is loving things

over people,

we must love people over things.

People are going to be boastful and proud.

We need to be humble and quiet.

Basically, you need to be the opposite of me.

You need to be humble.

You need, if they're going to be abusive,

we need to be complimentary.

This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

All the news is fit to print.

Today, Normandy, France, 1944, in a surprise-aggressive move, American and British troops landed yesterday on the beaches of Normandy.

Germany's Transocean News Service reports that Germans, simply vacationing in the sleepy hamlets of this coastal region, were awakened by the ships, planes, guns, and bombs of this sneak attack.

A few brave German tourists quickly ran to the bunkers and began returning fire to protect their French brothers and sisters.

Germany has already been been subject to a horrifying 363 air raids by the Allied air forces in an attempt to terrorize its citizens.

British bombers have already dropped over 45,000 tons of bombs while American aircraft dropped 23,000 tons.

Nearly 1.7 million people have been forced from their homes, creating what the United Nations has called the greatest refugee problem in history.

Many fleeing Germans only stopped briefly to say their goodbyes to their friends that they had made at the various camps throughout Germany and Poland.

The attack on Normandy coast was an oppressive show of military might.

The Allied forces have amassed the largest armada in human history, building a harbor where none previously existed and sneaking into it unnoticed.

On college campuses, various socialist student organizations have held vigils, protests, and riots to condemn this illegal occupation.

They noted the deaths in Germany have numbered in the millions, while Americans have had relatively few casualties, perhaps only a hundred thousand to two hundred thousand.

If the number of vacationers in German camps are included, that German death count increases by another six million.

It's obvious from the numbers that this this militant operation is nothing more than an attempt to murder innocent Germans and wipe out their culture.

The League of Nations have labeled this action illegal under international law.

Protests are occurring in all major cities today, with demonstrators shouting that they will support the indigenous people of Germany against the occupying Allied forces.

And they will not stop until this disproportionate action is halted and the imperialist invading military is defunded.

American heroes, such as Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford, have come out strongly against this illegal and heartbreaking invasion that has resulted in the deaths of innocent Germans.

Of course, some known deplorables, like communist Charlie Chaplin and B-movie actor Ronald Reagan, have stood by America and foolishly proclaimed that this invasion is needed for the self-defense and to, quote, save Western civilization, end quote, as if Western civilization were somehow superior to others, such as the Aryan civilization.

American corporations including Coca-Cola, MGM, Ford Motor Company, General Motors, and IBM have all declared that they are in operating mode with solidarity with their oppressed German brethren.

They will be donating money to the German Lives Matter group and step up their hiring of Germanic Americans.

The squad, consisting of Mildred Axis Sally Gillers and William Lord HaHa Joyce, have been sitting for interviews with the press and doing radio and television shows to get the word out about their cause and to make Americans aware that their politicians are being dishonest and immoral, and also advising the Allied soldiers that their wives are cheating on them back home.

From the comfort of his simple bunker, amid the constant bombing, German leader Adolf Hitler stated that Germany simply wants to reclaim land that was forcefully and illegally taken from it in 1918.

Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, and Poland.

If these stolen lands are returned, there would be peace, he said.

The League of Nations condemned the Allies for their unequal response and called for an end to the cycle of violence.

League officials hope that a ceasefire can be obtained before Germany has been overrun and the Allies institute their own government, as these officials have discovered a secret martial plan that surely will impose martial law on Germany and result in the end of the German Reich, which was intended to last a thousand years.

And that's the news, written by Bob Zeidman.

You know,

it's.

I mean, you go back in time,

that's not what happened, but that's the way it would be told, I think, today by today's media.

We have our good friend David Petrusza

with us, and he is

he's an author of some of the best history books out there.

He's got a new book out.

David, I want to have you on called Too Long Ago.

Maybe we'll do a Friday special with you.

But we wanted to talk to him about the anniversary of D-Day.

David Pedruzza is with us now.

Hi, David.

Hello.

So where do we even begin with D-Day, seeing that our schools are not learning about it, our children aren't learning anything about it.

Give us the highlights of what people really need to understand and how brave, daring, and deadly this thing was.

It could have gone terribly, terribly wrong.

And there are two reasons for thinking that.

It was the biggest amphibious invasion in world history.

150,000 soldiers, 130,000 on the beach, 20,000 airborne coming in behind German lines.

And there had been a practice run in 1942 with Canadian troops at the French port of Dieppe, where they sent in 6,000 troops and there were 4,000 casualties.

The good news about it is they learned everything what not to do.

Have more naval bombardments, have more air power striking, have a more flexible plan, don't go into a port, go into beaches.

And so they learned from that.

But even then, in April of 1944, they have a training exercise with 23,000 Allied American troops in the south of England.

749 troops die in a training exercise when some German E-boats attack.

So things can go wrong.

Things did go wrong.

Tanks floundered off.

The tides put the U.S.

soldiers maybe a mile away on Utah beach.

So they landed in the wrong spot.

That's when Theodore Roosevelt Jr., a general, a 56-year-old, lands on the beach, looks around, says, hey, nothing's right here.

We're in the wrong place.

And then he says, the war starts from here.

Tell me about the Canadians, because I had not heard that.

And I know that

Canadians were being held by the Germans, and they were massacred by the SS during this, weren't they?

That's true.

They land on Juneau Beach, which is snuck between the British beaches of Sword

and Gold.

And there are a number of them captured.

And it starts with one massacre of about 20 Canadians.

And it's an SS regiment.

They're shot right in the back of the head.

There's no question about that this is a a massacre of civilians of prisoners and about a hundred and forty in total are are shot right away by these characters.

The Canadians arrest the

commandant of that and they bring him back to Canada.

He's the first person ever tried for war crimes in Canada.

He's sentenced to death, but you know how they say, oh, you can't have the death penalty.

We just have life without parole.

This guy is out in 10 years after being sentenced to death.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

So when they, I mean, I know that Eisenhower had a letter that he had sent

that because they really expected that this could be just a disaster.

I mean, they lost more people on that one day than we've lost in the 15 years in Iraq.

And it was literally a bloodbath.

And it could have been much worse.

And he had in his pocket, I believe, or he had sent out

a letter to be read in case it was a disaster, taking all of the blame on himself.

Yeah, he knew

that if it went badly, if it was a disaster, he'd be out of there anyway.

So he knew he had

to

man up.

What's that say about

his

character?

I mean, who does that?

Is that unusual?

Nowadays, one would make a lot of excuses, but there were no excuses with him.

There's a great interview, an hour and a half with Walter Cronkite, which he did 20 years afterwards.

You can watch it on YouTube.

And you can see his command of details of who was here, there, over that hill, what unit there were, how many people were involved, and

what the implications of everything was.

They had the right guy in charge there, and also he was a diplomat.

Some very prickly personalities involved, not just Patton, but Bernard Montgomery was particularly at loggerheads with Eisenhower.

And he made the whole thing work.

We focus on the heroism and the blood and the guts, but it's really as much a triumph of planning, immense planning down to soil samples and what the gradient of the beach will be and all these technical details as it is about the bullets flying.

And of course, intelligence, planting ideas in the Germans that they're going to land somewhere else up the French coast at Calais, and so the Germans don't bring enough troops in, even once the fighting starts.

They think we have twice as many troops stationed in Britain than we actually have.

That there might be an invasion of Norway or at the Pas de Calais, and that Normandy, even when it pops, is going to be just a feint, a fake out

to get them distracted before we hit with the big one.

And it ain't.

This is the big one.

David Petrusza, historian and author of Too Long Ago, were talking about D-Day and

what it was really like.

David, was I mean, they called it Bloody Omaha for Omaha Beach.

Was that the worst place?

Because if that would have failed, the whole thing would have fallen apart, right?

Right.

And Utah Beach is not particularly well defended by the Germans, but

a lot of the tanks, which are supposed to support our men on the beach, just sink into the ocean.

And it is very much heavily defended.

And if they start to withdraw from Omaha Beach, then do they withdraw not to the ships, but to the other beaches.

And because logistics are so important, that could have created chaos in the other beaches and just sunk the whole thing.

It's a success.

We win, okay?

But none of the main objectives of D-Day for D-Day are met.

They want to capture four major towns just in back of the beaches, and they want to link up all the beaches, and they don't.

So, as much as we throw our best at the Germans, and they make a lot of mistakes in terms of intelligence and moving troops in and out, and not having air power,

it's a toughly run thing there for a while.

As Rommel said, and it's Rommel who coins the phrase, this is the longest day.

And if they are to beat the Allies, they have to do it that day.

Rommel was turned against Hitler at that point.

Wasn't he at that point almost plotting against Hitler?

Didn't want us necessarily to win, but knew what Hitler was doing to the country and was against him.

Do I have that right?

Yeah, he eventually becomes part of the conspiracy to blow up Hitler

or to overthrow him.

And what happens is that Hitler catches on to this.

He had been a favorite of Hitler.

He had been part of his guard going back years before that.

So he had his confidence.

That's why Hitler places him in charge of this great Atlantic wall to beef this up.

But then when he's caught by Hitler as part of this plot, he's given the option.

Either you are put on trial or you commit suicide.

We hush the whole thing up and your family gets to walk away.

They don't go into any camps.

They get the pension and you get the gold watch, but kill yourself, and because it would hurt morale greatly if this guy, at that point in time, is found not to be with the Nazi program.

In terms of secrecy, on our side, we have that training exercise at Slapton Sands, where 749 of our soldiers are killed.

That is kept a U.S.

military secret until 1984,

when a housewife in England.

What was this?

When we lost 749 U.S.

personnel.

Okay, in a training exercise.

In a training exercise in April of 1944.

That is kept secret from the American public until 1984.

Not 44, 84, and that is released only when a British housewife starts talking about it and making noise.

And finally, the U.S.

government has to own up to it.

Again, why keep it secret?

For portions of you, keep everything secret from the Germans.

You don't want them to know anything we're doing, although certainly they knew something was going on because they sunk the boats these guys were on, but also not to damage our morale.

So they say.

How many transgender people were on the beach that day, David?

We don't know and we don't care.

Yeah, we don't.

Well,

there was that guy in Kilts.

There was the guy in Kilts playing the bagpipe,

which

did he actually do that because he befuddled the Germans.

Yeah.

I have a Scottish friend who is like,

he's like in war.

He said, one of us will go out.

If it's in a tough bet, we'll play the bagpipes.

And I'm like, that's nuts, man.

He's like, that's what we do.

That's what we do.

David Petruzza, thank you so much.

I'd love to have you on again about your book, Too Long Ago.

It is

his expedition into a small town childhood

after World War II and how they survived World War II, what they came out of, and what they came to here in America and what it all meant not too long ago.

David Petrusa, thank you for being on the program.