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I gotta tell you, I am so sick and tired of hearing the bashing of Israel.

If we had somebody lobbing rockets into any of our cities, any of our suburbs, well, I can't say this anymore.

I would say we would stop it, but maybe we wouldn't.

We probably wouldn't now.

If Antifa were doing that, we'd probably be like, that's a beautiful celebration of their freedom.

And look at they've even rockets with red glare.

It makes me want to sing.

Well, definitely not sing the national anthem because

that, of course, is racist.

I don't know what we would do anymore.

But I think people would be outraged if somebody was lobbying rockets and bombs and killing their children

anywhere in America.

We would respond.

But Israel?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

the Jews, you know.

There was a great article written by Alan Dershowitz in the Hill.

Why does the hard left glorify the Palestinians?

Why do they hate the Jews so much?

In a world in which massive violations of human rights have tragically become the norm, why is the hard left focused on one of the least compelling of these causes, namely the Palestinians?

Where is the concern for the Kurds?

For the Chechens, for the Uyghurs, for the Tibetans?

There are no campus demonstrations on their behalf, no expression of concern by the squad in Congress, no United Nations resolutions, no recurring op-eds in the New York Times, no claims that the nations that oppress these groups have no right to exist.

On the merits and demerits of their claims, the Palestinians have the weakest case.

They've been offered statehood and independence on numerous occasions in 1938, in 1948, in 1967, in 2000, 2001, and 2008.

Israel ended its occupation of the Gaza Strip in 2005.

Yet, even now, Palestinian leaders refuse to sit down and negotiate a reasonable two-state solution.

As the late Israeli diplomat Eben once aptly put it,

the Palestinian leadership never misses misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Nor are history and morality on the Palestinian side.

The Palestinian leadership aligned itself with Nazism

and Hitler in the 1940s, with Egyptian tyranny and anti-Semitism in the 1950s, and with international terrorism from the 1960s forward.

In 1947, the United Nations divided the land that the Romans called Palestine, the Jews called Israel, into two areas.

They divided that through the United Nations and provided a sliver of land along the Mediterranean and a non-arable desert called Negev to the Jews, who were a majority in that area, and a much larger area to the Arabs.

The Jews declared statehood on their land.

Instead of declaring statehood on the Palestinian side, the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations declared war on the newly United Nations-established Israel.

The Arabs lost, and the Jews captured more land.

As a result of war,

there occurred an exchange of populations.

Hundreds of thousands of Arabs left or were forced out of Israel, and hundreds of thousands of Jews left or were forced out of Arab countries and Arab Palestine.

Again, in 1967, the surrounding Arab nations threatened to destroy Israel, which preemptively attacked and occupied the West Bank in Gaza, which it immediately offered to return, with some territorial adjustments necessary for security.

In exchange for peace and recognition, they would return that land.

The UN Secretary Council issued Resolution 242, which called for a return of captured territories in exchange for peace.

Israel accepted.

The Arab nations and Palestinians, however, issued three infamous no's.

No peace, no recognition, and no negotiation.

Just want to point out here, the Kurds have never been offered independence or statehood, despite treaties that promised it.

Nor have the Tibetans or the Uyghurs or the Chechens.

But the Palestinians have, on multiple occasions, since 1938, when their leader told the Peel Commission that the Palestinians don't want a state.

They just don't want a Jewish state.

Palestinian people have suffered more from the ill-advised decisions of their leaders than from the actions of Israel.

Back to the present.

Hamas commits a double war crime every time it fires a lethal rocket at Israeli citizens from a population or an area populated by its civilians, who they use as human shields.

Israel responds proportionately in self-defense, as President Biden has emphasized.

The Israel Defense Forces go to extraordinary lengths to try to minimize civilian casualties among the Palestinians, despite Hamas's policies of using civilian buildings, hospitals, schools, mosques, and high-rise buildings to store, fire, and plan their unlawful rockets and other devices.

Yet the hard left blames Israel alone, and many on the center left create a moral equivalence between Democratic Israel and terrorist Hamas.

Why?

Why does this happen?

asks Alan Dershowitz.

The answer is clear and can be summarized in one word.

Jews.

The enemy of the Kurds, the Tibetans, the Uyghurs, and the Chechens are not, unfortunately for them, the Jews.

Hence, there's little concern for their plight.

If the perceived enemy of the Palestinians were not the Jews, there'd be little concern for their plight as well.

This was proved by the relative silence that greeted the massacre of Palestinians by Jordan during Black September in 1970, or the killings of the Palestinian Authority leaders in Gaza during the Hamas takeover in 2007.

There's been relative silence too about more than 4,000 Palestinians, mostly civilians, killed by Syria during that country's current civil war.

It's only when the Jews or their nation are perceived to be oppressing Palestinians that the left seems to care about them.

While the United States provides financial support for Israel, we also provide massive support for Jordan and Egypt.

Even if the United States were to end support for Israel, the demonization of Israel by the hard left would not end.

The left singles out Palestinians not because of the merits of their case, but because of the alleged demerits of Israel and the double standard universally applied to Jews.

That is the reality.

John Brennan, former CIA director, as much admitted this double standard when he complained in a tweet about alleged lack of empathy by Jews.

I always found it difficult to fathom how a nation of people deeply scarred by a history replete with prejudice, religious persecution, and unspeakable violence perpetrated against them would not be the empathetic champions of those whose rights and freedoms are still abridged, end quote.

As Seth Franzman, a writer for the Jerusalem Post, aptly put it, quote, In his telling, he implied that Jews must have special empathy for others, while non-Jews have no special need to be empathetic.

Brennan has not held other countries to a higher standard based on the ethnic or religious origins of their citizens.

In short, because Jews engendered genocide, they have to live according to a higher standard than those who perpetrated the genocide.

This benevolent double standard may sound kinder than the double standard imposed by the members of the squad and others, but it has the same effect.

It demands that Israel do less to protect its citizens from rockets and terrorism than is demanded from other countries.

The same standard must be demanded of Israel as is demanded of other countries defending their citizens.

In particular, the same standard must be demanded of Palestinians and their leaders as is demanded of other groups seeking the moral support of good people.

I support the legitimate rights of Palestinians to a peaceful state, not so much because of their history and actions merit it more than others, but because it would be good for peace in the region and for Israel.

But I refuse to prioritize it over other more equally or compelling cases just because Jews are on the other side.

Alan Dershowitz.

I think that is absolutely 100% true.

Why do they have such a problem with Israel?

Well, we wouldn't have a problem with Israel if Israel just didn't exist.

We wouldn't have a problem with all these Jews if Jews just, there's just so many Jews.

You know what I'm saying, Stu?

That's the attitude.

That's the attitude of the left.

And it's something they embrace wholeheartedly, and they don't seem to care about the facts on the ground.

I mean, you can go back, and I agree with Dershowitz and his analysis here, but you can go back and find things that I'm sure the Palestinians feel slighted.

A lot of people feel like they got the raw deal in some of these arrangements going back 30, 40, 50, 100 years.

But, like, again, I don't agree with that analysis.

Okay, all right.

But my point is, like,

who, like, that's the past.

It's like trying to say, well, you know, Mexico actually owns California.

Okay.

Well, here we are

in 2021.

We were existing in a circumstance where one country

was not firing, one group was not firing at the other group when we're talking about missiles raining down on their population.

Then out of nowhere, Hamas started firing hundreds and thousands of missiles at their neighbors.

So guess what?

Like, they have a right to respond to that, whether you think the Jews got

the long end of the stick long ago or not.

We had a situation that was relatively stable and Hamas, for the five millionth time, an international terrorist group, started firing missiles

at Israel in their population centers, at their civilians.

And just because they have good defenses and knock down the majority of them does not mean a thing.

You know, if you go and try to rob a bank and you pull out a gun and you point it at the teller and it doesn't wind up working out for you and you go to prison,

they don't say, well, you know, he didn't get away with the money, so therefore, let's just let him go.

That's not how this works.

I just have to, I have some umbrage I need to take

you.

First of all, yes, yes, Stu.

Not umbrage.

Stu started this little rant with

it, would be like if people claim that Mexico still owns California.

Mexico never owned California,

Spain occupied Mexico, So Spain actually owned California.

But see, the stew lies just continue.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

So the Bank of America came out a couple of weeks ago with their report, and they said

at the very least,

America is headed for

transitory hyperinflation.

Now,

I ain't a banker, but I am a thanker.

And I've always heard that word hyperinflation was a bad thing.

We have Stephen Moore on to talk about this and so many other things in the economy.

Hello, Stephen.

How are you, sir?

Hey, Glenn, good.

And by the way, you don't have to listen to the Bank of America.

I mean, I said on your show a couple of months ago that, you know, if we kept up this

insane spending, insane borrowing, insane, you know, helicopter money, dumping $100 bills out of helicopters, which is essentially what Biden announced yesterday.

That, you know, inflation is very simple, Glenn.

I mean, this stuff is not complicated.

Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods.

And we've got so much money being printed right now, so much money being spent and borrowed, in the trillions of dollars.

How is anybody even surprised that we have inflation?

So tell me, do you believe that this is temporary because we just don't have the products on the shelves

because people aren't

taking their job back?

Do you buy into that?

Some of it is temporary, but some of it is long-term.

I mean, look, we do have a big, there's so many problems that are compounding each other right now.

You just mentioned one.

I mean, again, last time you and I talked, I said this was going to happen.

If you're paying people, you've got couples now, including food stamps, unemployment benefits, free rental assistance,

you know, free health care that are getting government benefits of over $100,000 a year for not working.

I mean, that's nuts.

You and I believe in a safety net, but come on, you know, we're paying more people to stay unemployed than to work.

It's just craziness.

So

you're asking me a question of whether Washington is going to get us act together.

And I don't know the answer to that.

I mean, right now, as we speak, Biden's still proposing $4 trillion more spending.

I mean, I'm angry.

You can tell me anger.

Because, you know, all we need to do is get the government out of the way.

Get out of the way.

We got a vaccine.

We got businesses reopened.

Just stop.

But they can't.

So tell me about the monthly child tax credit.

This is

a new way to give people money.

Government checks every month, $3,000 per child.

And

they are dumping this money beginning in July, July 15th.

What does this mean?

So let's do the math here.

$3,000

per child.

Let's say you have three kids.

That's $9,000 of free money.

Plus, you get, if you've got a couple both on unemployment insurance, they're getting somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,500 a month in benefits.

So that right there is, you know, about $60,000 a year.

Then they get $10,000 of food food stamps.

Then they get $10,000 of free health care

and

rental assistance.

You're talking about, people don't believe it when I say you can get $100,000 of benefits, but you can't.

Look, I'm for children.

You're for children.

But the best way to help children is to have a mother and a father in the home and have a job.

It's not complicated.

Rather than give people money, get people working.

We've had, Glenn, now it's been 14 or 15 months that people haven't been working.

We have 8.1 million job openings today.

There are 750,000 job openings today in manufacturing and construction.

Those aren't good jobs.

A lot of them are union jobs.

People are not going back to work, folks.

It's very simple because the government

is paying them to do it.

And Joe Biden was asked about this question.

He goes, blah, blah, blah.

I mean, he doesn't make any sense because he's never run a business.

And by the way, this is killing our small businesses, Glenn.

Our restaurants, our stores, our construction companies.

I mean, ask somebody who runs a construction crew.

Can you get workers?

No, no.

You know,

they are not available right now.

And that's why they have supply shots.

I have had, you know, I'm doing construction on my house and almost every day, almost every day, somebody said, I'm sorry, I don't have

the workers here.

I just couldn't get them.

The plumber was saying, I've been wanting to mentor.

somebody forever.

And he said, I can't get anyone who is willing to do the work.

And probably

that's a good job.

That's a, yeah, plumbers make a good living.

Yeah,

I try to get an electrician.

You know, so I mean, I have the same thing.

We have construction in our house.

There's a little noise in the background.

That's the construction.

And I got to tell you, you know, the people, we've had about seven or eight people coming in our house.

They're doing a great job.

I think, you know, seven out of eight of them are immigrants.

They're from Russia or they're from Ukraine or they're from Mexico.

I mean, the immigrants, how would we even keep this economy going without immigrant workers?

So I don't know.

I'm very frustrated because

we should just get back to normal.

I think if we would just stop all the spending and borrowing, and I believe we could have an economy that would just be flying high right now, really high.

I mean, with these businesses reopening and the jobs are open, we've got a solid economy, a solid foundation.

Anybody who wants the vaccine can have it, and yet we're screwing it up.

And by the way, don't forget

what was the first act of Joe Biden when he he became president?

Do you remember?

The border, I think, wasn't it?

Well, that was the second one.

The first was the pipeline, the Keystone pipeline.

He didn't want to go to the bottom.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

That's right.

Yeah, now.

I mean, how insane is that, Glenn?

I mean, really, we have the colonial pipeline that's been shut down by cyber

criminals.

And now we've got, I live in Washington, D.C., I can't get a drop of gasoline within 10 miles of where I live.

Stephen, when the government, I think they're headed towards UBI.

I mean, they're just making payments now to people, and people aren't going back to work.

And this is what, you know, Nancy Pelosi said was coming, you know, for

poets and dreamers everywhere.

You know, you should be able to make enough money, the government should be able just to pay you that you could do what you, you know, follow your dreams.

That's where we're headed, isn't it?

Well, I'm for people following their dreams, but I'm also realistic and people need to be realistic.

You know, I wanted to be a pro quarterback.

Did you know that, Glenn?

Don't think that would happen.

Thanks a lot, Glenn.

But wait,

they are currently paying you pay people on a monthly basis, and you're sending them a check.

That check better not stop because people start to count on that check.

And

I mean,

you're just training people to get UBI.

Well, what's really bad, what really worries me is that's why I mentioned 15 months of people getting unemployment.

That means that for 15 months, people have not been in the workforce.

That causes an atrophy.

of your work skills.

It's the worst thing you can do is tell people, and by the way, there is dignity.

There's purpose in your life if you get up and work.

There's no dignity in watching Netflix all day or sitting on the couch.

The worst thing you you can do for people is tell them

to sit around and do nothing.

You need purpose in your life.

Everyone does.

And

we all know that.

And the government is now.

But a lot of families, and I'm not blaming them, I'm blaming the government, are just making a financial decision.

Hey, I can make $48,000 if I go back on the job, but Uncle Sam's going to give me $55,000 if I don't.

Do you read Shadow Stats by any chance?

Are you familiar with it at least?

Yeah.

I know of it, but I'm not.

What are you referring to?

I'm referring to the way we calculate inflation has been changed a couple of times since the 1980s.

And if you use the old standard, we're up to about 11% inflation.

With the new standard, we're at 4.2%.

Is there a case to be made to at least glance at the old way that we used to be figuring inflation?

Because inflation got to be 14%.

Look, my feeling is people, you don't have to tell people what the inflation rate is.

They know it.

They know it.

They go to the grocery store.

They go to the gas pump.

I mean, people feel it.

So, you know, these bogus government statistics,

you know, give us kind of a direction of things, but you can't BS people.

They know what's happening.

I mean, my gosh, you know, when Biden, the day Biden was elected, the gas price was $2.10 a gallon.

Today, the gas price is $3.05 a gallon.

By the way, you keep saying I'm only going to raise taxes on people who make over $400,000.

When you've got a $0.95 per gallon increase in the gas price, that's a tax.

That's a tax on people, right?

Yes.

Yes.

How bad do you think this gets, Stephen?

And

what should people prepare for?

I think the stock, I'm not a great financial analyst, but I would say this.

I'd be very careful about the stock market right now, real careful.

I'm not saying pull out, but I wouldn't put a whole lot of money into the market right now.

The first rule of investing is buy low and sell high.

And I think you've got a very overpriced stock market right now.

And by the way, I'm not saying next week it's going to crash, but I do think, Glenn, I don't know what you're thinking, as I think there's going to be a correction.

There just has to be.

And especially pay attention to this massive tax increase bill.

Pay attention to the $2.5 trillion infrastructure bill.

By the way, I love this.

He wants to spend $2.5 trillion in infrastructure, and the first thing he does when he becomes president is kill an infrastructure project, the Keystone Pipeline, that costs taxpayers nothing.

Right?

I mean,

you got to watch Washington.

You got to watch what these people are doing.

If

the senator from West Virginia

goes south on us and sides with Pelosi and the rest, and they continue to spend like this,

stock stock up on food, stock up on gasoline.

I mean,

you cannot, a great nation cannot borrow $6.5 trillion in one year.

I mean, it's insane.

Well, you can't, to stop inflation, you would normally raise interest rates.

There's no way that the Fed can raise the interest rates because the government couldn't afford to pay the rates themselves.

Well,

that's the problem, right?

We've been borrowing.

We've been living on borrowed time.

We've been borrowing at these bargain low interest rates, and that's been a blessing for the country.

But now, if the rates go up, you know, every one percentage point increase in interest rates

costs us all a trillion dollars more in debt.

I mean, so we're in a vicious cycle right now.

So, maybe the first thing Washington should do, you know,

I don't have 180 IQ, but the first thing government should do is stop spending money we don't have.

I mean, how crazy if Biden is running around the country now is let's spend another two and a half trillion dollars and borrow it.

And by the way, what happens when China starts to stop spying our bonds?

Well, I think they effectively have

the Fed is the Fed's the only buyer of our bonds at this point.

Are you worried?

That is, Glenn.

That's what you just described, where

the Congress spends the money, the Treasury issues bonds, and then the money printing agency of the government buys the bonds.

That's what third world countries do.

I know.

I know it is.

I know it is.

That's why you don't have faith, full faith and credit in the U.S.

dollar.

When people really catch on to what's going on, it'll be over, I think, fast.

Are you concerned about forbearance and that people don't really know what that meant?

And when it catches up to people and they realize, oh, I've got to pay all of that money back, and my credit is destroyed, and I may get kicked out of my apartment,

that's going to be a problem, isn't it?

Well, people, we've developed this attitude among Americans because of government policies of everyone thinking that the government's going to bail them out.

So if you can't pay your rent, the government's going to pay for it.

If you can't pay for your food, the government's going to pay for it.

You could take on large debts because the government's going to forgive your debts.

You can take out $100,000 in student loans, the government's going to

pay it for you.

I mean, this is just a very insidious dependency culture.

The last line of the piece that I had in the Wall Street Journal three or four weeks ago when I talked about we're building a dependency culture, you know, is that maybe this is the whole design.

Maybe that's what Washington wants.

Oh, I think it is.

I think it is.

And I don't have a, I don't have a hundred and well, I don't have an IQ of a hundred, I bet.

And I can figure that out.

Right.

Stephen,

you think it's deliberate.

You think these guys are trying to make

trying to make people.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Yes.

Stephen, thank you very much for your time.

I appreciate it.

And

keep up the good work.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Justin Haskins is a good friend of the program.

He is the editorial director of the Heartland Institute, editor-in-chief of stoppingsocialism.com, and co-writer of the next book that is coming out,

The Great Reset.

Justin, how are you, sir?

Oh, I'm doing so well, Glenn.

So well.

Yeah.

Appreciate it with you.

Yeah.

So

this is not going to go over well for those who think that everybody who listens to talk radio is a moron.

You just did a poll

and wanted to find out, you know, who knows the news?

Who knows

the general topics in the news?

Who knows about the police shootings and climate change?

Who knows?

What'd you find?

Right.

So what we wanted to do was go beyond just looking at bias in the news media.

We all know that MSNBC and CNN and, you know, ABC, CBS, NBC, we all know that they're left-leaning outlets and that people who watch them probably have left-leaning opinions.

But what we wanted to know was

how what do they understand about the facts, not opinions, related to important news stories, and just how detached from reality are they?

Because my suspicion was it's pretty darn detached.

And so what we did was we asked them a whole bunch of questions about media preferences, and then we asked them a bunch of questions, factual questions about things going on in the news.

We asked them about the national debt.

We asked them about police shootings, climate change questions, the proportion of the population that's uninsured or doesn't have health coverage.

And then we were able to compare these two things to see if there is a difference.

It's a very large poll, likely voters.

And what we found was overwhelmingly,

in the vast majority of questions that we asked, the people who

watch NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC regularly, who identified it as their favorite network, were far more likely to get these questions about facts wrong, in some cases, wildly wrong, compared to people who watch conservative media television and especially people who get most of their news from talk radio.

Talk radio was actually the audience that was most likely to get these questions right above all other kinds of categories.

But generally speaking, all conservative media way outperformed these liberal outlets.

So tell me, did they, were there differences on climate change?

Did they know the hot button issues for the left?

Like, you know, who lacks insurance, health and care insurance?

Who, you know, how warm is the temperature going to be in 2050?

I mean, was there any question where they excelled?

There were two questions where they did better than conservatives on average.

And those questions were

in some ways, I think, kind of a mistake.

One was

how many white people are shot, unarmed white people are fatally shot by police.

They were more likely to get that right, but they were much more likely to get the question about unarmed African Americans shot by fatally shot by police wrong.

And so the gap between whites and blacks, they were way, way off.

To give people an idea of just what we're talking about here,

81% of MSNBC viewers, 70% of CNN, and more than 70% of the viewers of ABC, CBS, and NBC said that there are at least

50 fatal police shootings of unarmed African Americans every year.

That's at least double the real number, which is about 18, according to the Washington Post

database.

And then a significant proportion dramatically overestimated the number of fatal police shootings of unarmed African Americans.

So one quarter of CNN viewers, for example, said there were at least 500 unarmed African Americans killed every year by police.

That's 5,000 over the course of a decade compared to less than 200.

Okay, so wouldn't that

doesn't that make sense, though?

I mean, you wouldn't think that this kind of

coverage would go to something that affected 18 people.

There are more than 18 people that die in a swimming pool every year.

I mean,

it's really quite

shocking when you actually know the numbers.

But if you don't know the numbers, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if people would say a thousand people are killed because it's an epidemic.

It's happening everywhere.

Right.

Wouldn't you think?

No, that's exactly right.

In fact, 10% of CNN's audience did think that there were a thousand African Americans who are unarmed killed every year by police.

10%.

Wow.

Yeah.

And so what this shows beyond any doubt is that coverage that these people are getting, because when we asked conservatives, they were getting these questions right at a much, much higher rate.

So what it shows is that.

Give me the talk radio listeners.

What did they say?

For

which question?

For the number of unarmed blacks killed by police officers.

Okay.

Sure.

Let me

look it up real quick.

But yeah,

there's no doubt whatsoever that when we asked about any of these questions, they were far more likely to get it wrong.

Talk radio was 60%.

So 60% of talk radio listeners got the correct answer, which was less than 50.

Compared to CNN, it was 23%.

MSNBC, 19%.

That gives you an illustration of just how detached from reality a lot of these people are.

And it's not just on police shootings, it's on the national debt.

It's on every kind of

virtually every question that we ask.

When we asked about the national debt, for example,

69% of CBS viewers and 65%, this is just an example, 65% of NBC viewers and 69% of CBS viewers said that the national debt was much lower than it actually was.

And about 30% of CNN and 32% of CBS viewers said the national debt was $5 trillion or less.

$5 trillion.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

They just

$5 trillion was in 1995.

$5 trillion?

How could it be $5 trillion when they're talking about passing another $4 trillion package?

I mean,

exactly.

And so

on climate change,

about half of all MSNBC viewers, ABC, CBS, NBC, about half of them, in fact more than half of them, said that they think that humanity will be, humanity, all of humanity will either be extinct or nearly extinct within 100 years.

And a quarter of them said that they'll be extinct within 50 years because of climate change.

So 75, wait, wait.

So 75% of MSNBC viewers think that within the next 50 to 100 years, we'll all be dead?

Half.

Half.

Half of the people who said within 100 years said within 50 years.

So it's

50% of all the viewers,

25% said less than 50%.

Right.

So 50%.

What's the other 50% say?

Most of the other 50% said that it will happen, but it will just take more than 100 years.

Okay.

All right.

So we're dead either.

We're dead either way.

We're eventually going to die from climate change was the overall.

All right.

But if you believe, but if you really believe that we're going to go, the whole human race is going to go extinct within 100 years, that means that a majority of people watching these networks believe that their grandchildren will die from climate change.

That's what it means.

I mean, that is totally insane, but that's the message that they're getting from the press.

So this isn't just about opinions.

We all know that people who are watching these networks are going to have liberal opinions.

This is about them not even having,

how can you form a good opinion when you don't have even the basic information about these topics right?

And if you're watching those networks, you are not getting even the basic facts right about any of these topics.

We know that to be true.

We absolutely know that to be true.

In our own lives, we've all met somebody who is a liberal, and if you get the opportunity to talk to them about the news, oh, no, I don't know anything about that.

They say that all the time.

I didn't say, where'd you get that?

You know, thinking that you're going to get that from.

And usually it's like...

The New York Times even printed that.

They just don't, they don't, they're not impacted because even if their source does do the story, it does it once and they're drilling down on everything else.

Did you ask any ask any political questions about Trump or Biden or anything about socialism?

We did ask about Biden's approval rating, and it was actually kind of, it was interesting.

As you would expect, the conservative media outlets did not have a particular people who watch those outlets do not have a particularly fond view of Joe Biden, less than 20% approval across the board for those.

Well, usually it was even less than that.

But for CNN, it was actually much lower than I thought.

And ABC, CBS as well.

The average CNN viewer,

strong approval for Biden was 57%,

which is not super high.

ABC was 45%.

CBS was 48%.

If you add in somewhat approved, those numbers go up to the 70s or so, depending on the network that you're looking at.

MSNBC was far and away Biden's network.

90% approved to some degree, and 70% had strong approval.

But

it's not as much as you would expect, without any doubt at all.

I mean, certainly the average Fox News viewer or the average Blaze viewer or something would have a much higher opinion of Donald Trump when if you're looking at similar polls that have been done in the past

than liberal viewers of these networks have of Joe Biden right now.

So he's not off to a very good start.

Your big takeaway from this?

I think one of the biggest takeaways beyond just the fact that people who are watching these networks are just

not getting truth, and so they shouldn't watch them,

Is that

one of the most stunning things about this whole poll is that a significant proportion of people who say that they watch these liberal outlets don't believe that the liberal outlets are liberal.

They actually think that most of the news that they're getting is either somewhat conservative or mostly conservative.

That's more than half of CNN viewers

and more than half of MSNBC viewers, for example.

In fact, more than 60%

said that they think that most of the news that they get is somewhat conservative or mostly conservative.

So they have no idea that the news that they're watching is actually incredibly liberal news.

They've never met a conservative.

If they think that

how do they know that conservatives despise

CNN and all these other outlets

and think that they are full of nothing but leftist propaganda.

How do they square that circle?

Do they just not?

It is a bizarre world we're living in.

It really, truly is.

So, Justin, you and I have been working on a book on the Great Reset.

And,

you know, I've looked at it recently, and they're doing the same thing they did with

what was the school thing that we all fought against recently the

new

yeah Common Core they're doing the same kind of thing that they did with Common Core first they say it's not true

then they start to hedge around it

then they'll come out and go okay it is true but we're not gonna do it and then they just change the name

There's a lot of things going on right now where they are

They're traveling down that road but they are telling us now that they're going to do it anyway for instance tennessee they moved to ban critical race theory but the educators are saying we're gonna we're gonna break the law or we're gonna deny that crt was ever in our schools well what's happening to us where People are willing to come out and say, I don't care what the people say.

I'm doing it anyway.

Right.

I think if you're going to sum up sort of the essence of the great reset movement, really, across the board, whether it's a teacher who supports these kinds of ideas generally or, you know, corporate leaders at big multinational banks and other things, it's that there's this sense that it really doesn't matter what people want because they don't know what's good for them.

And we,

the sort of technocrats of society, the elites in society, we know what's best.

And we will guide these people whether they like it or not, whether they want it or not.

And we're just going to go through with it regardless, and in this case, even regardless of what the laws say, and because they know that, frankly, the mob is on their side, and because they know that the elite institutions, not just of America, but of the entire world, are on their side, and because they know that the White House is on their side, and therefore all all the federal agencies are on their side, I think they're going to become increasingly more brazen about these kinds of attempts because the cat is out of the bag.

I mean, we know what's going on, and you've been talking about this now for almost a year.

We know what's happening.

And people are starting to learn about it all the time.

So they're not going to be able to hide it.

But what they're going to do is exactly what you just said.

They're going to say, yeah, you know what?

It is happening, but it's for the best.

And we're we're gonna do it anyway because we got to save the planet or we got to fix income inequality or we got to stop racism or whatever it is the ends always justify the means and that's that's what this whole move it's the essence of this whole movement is that these people can control society better than you can manage your own life as an individual person

Which explains another story that is out today about how Apple has been working with the Chinese government and they are censoring and surveilling Chinese citizens and giving all of that information over to China.

The ends justify the means.

Thanks so much, Justin.

I appreciate it.

You can, of course, you bet, you can find all of this information on that latest survey at the Heartland Institute.

He's the editorial director there.

The Heartland Institute, you can find it at heartland.org.

Heartland.org.

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