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He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, No, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

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He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

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Yesterday, I spent about 90 minutes with

Nikki Haley.

Holy cow, is she great.

I just love her.

She was so strong on the Republicans.

She's like, stop it.

The Republicans, get a clue.

You've got to step up.

And here's, and I said, what's the thing that could bring us all together?

She said, the Trump policies.

She said they were working.

We were energy independent.

The world was moving towards peace.

Look at what is happening.

China was in the, you know, in a cage.

And look what we are now.

She's like, we must

just stand up for the Trump policies and stop being such wussies.

And when I asked her,

I said,

let's just talk about

the pipeline and the ransom that was paid and Biden saying.

You know, there's, there's, you know, it's a private industry.

They can pay the ransom or not.

I'm convinced that's a shark bump

sharks when they come up to you if you ever happen to be swimming with sharks which i don't recommend but if you happen to be swimming they're going to come up and bump you and the reason why they bump is because they want to see if you're food or not food reacts

you know a driftwood doesn't

so they come up and they bump you and if they bump you and you move they eat you

I'm convinced that the pipeline, it was not intended as a shark bump, but it is now a shark bump.

And we moved.

And they are going to eat us.

This is like

Beirut in the 1980s.

What was it, 1985?

And

the

radicals, Palestinians, I think, went in and they blew up the Marine barracks in

Lebanon.

And all these Marines died.

Reagan was the president.

The advice to the president was, don't do anything.

You'll only make it worse.

Just move on.

Well, we did.

And a little young guy named Osama bin Laden watched that and went,

That little band of terrorists just made the most powerful military on earth move.

We can eat them.

I think that's what this pipeline was about.

And the reaction of Biden, I now understand.

Let me play a little Nikki Haley, eh?

You know what I'm saying?

Here's Nikki Haley from the podcast that is available now to Blaze subscribers.

And it comes out every Thursday for Blaze TV subscribers.

If you're not a subscriber, wherever you get your podcast, you'll be able to hear this on Saturday.

You are really going to like what she has to say and what she believes we should do and the trouble that is being caused by Joe Biden.

Here's what keeps her up at night.

Listen to this.

Somebody asked me what keeps you up at night.

The thing that keeps me up at night is China.

And the reason that China keeps me up at night is

just look at this scenario that they've given us.

When I was at the United Nations, My first year, they were what we knew of China, which was quiet.

They didn't want any public interaction.

They talked to things simply, no fanfare.

They didn't want anything.

Once President Xi

made himself king, got rid of term limits, all of that changed.

Overnight, they started infiltrating the UN, trying to become heads of different agencies.

They started putting their fingers in countries' faces, threatening to

saying, you better vote with us or else.

They just got extremely aggressive, more vocal, all of that.

They are now building up their military.

They have the largest naval fleet in the world.

They have more air defense systems.

They're modernizing their military.

We're not.

They continue to steal intellectual property.

President Trump was right to call them out on that.

It's only as good as if we follow up on it.

The human rights abuses, this isn't just another human rights abuse.

This is very telling.

Here you have a million Muslim Uyghurs in concentration camps, making them change their name, change their religion, forcing them to drink, which is against their religion, sexual abuse, physical abuse.

We said

that we would never again turn our eyes away from genocide.

What is happening there now, it's the reason why I think we should boycott the Olympics.

When China did the last Olympics, it was very much known that China saw it as their coming out party.

When this Beijing Olympics happens,

They are planning that this is going to be them showing the world that they are the new superpower of the world.

And you mark my words, after that Olympics, if everything goes smooth, they're going to take Taiwan.

And when they take Taiwan, it's over.

It's over.

What does that mean?

What does that mean?

It's over.

Because if they, so they already tried it with Hong Kong to see if anybody was going to do anything.

And we didn't really do anything.

If they take Taiwan, then it's, then it's not about their region anymore.

Then they're going to just go start taking other places.

Then you're going to start seeing them eat up other countries, even though they can't lay claim to them, they will.

And that's the danger of it.

You know, then you go a step further.

They have, you know, invested in all of these little properties.

These are frivolous infrastructure projects that they're doing.

They do it in these little countries, waiting for such a time as this when COVID hits, run up the debt, and then they say, you can't pay it back.

Give us your military installation.

Give us your port.

Give us your utility.

Now you look at that map, it'll send a chill up your spine.

But the one that I think is the worst, President Xi started a commission years ago that he personally chairs that says any company that does business in China has to cooperate with the Chinese military.

Now, think about our tech companies.

Think about the health data.

Think about our personal data.

Think about our families and think that the Chinese military has that.

This played out in real time during COVID.

When two American companies, 3M and Honeywell,

producing PPE, China would not let them send it to us or any other country.

Instead, they bought it wholesale and said, we will only give it to countries who agree to do business with Huawei, our 5G network.

That is the country we're dealing with.

Okay, there's enough there to keep you up at night for the next decade.

Did you know that about the PPEs and the

American companies that couldn't send it us.

No, that's really bad.

I mean, considering, especially considering they basically started this entire thing.

Right.

Right.

Like that they should have been running to try to help everyone

possible, but they don't care.

Yeah, her point is that they're not afraid, especially now with Joe Biden and his son in office.

They're not afraid of us.

And she's right.

If they go into Taiwan, which I think they will do, we're not going to do anything.

We wouldn't do anything under this administration.

If we don't do anything, they will begin to eat.

The world will be a smorgasbord for them.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

So I don't know if you've heard this amazing story from DC.

I'm sure you have.

It's, I mean, Kevin Bacon and Foot Loose, the DC ban now on dancing at weddings.

Well, one bride said, I'm not, no, sorry, I'm dancing at my wedding.

And there were, there were no exceptions.

I mean, not outside, not vaccinated, not double mask, nothing, no exceptions.

Well, when I say that, that's not entirely true.

I mean, they there were, you know,

you know, they were still going to allow dancing, you know,

at Zumba classes and strip clubs.

You could also dance there.

But not at a wedding.

Well, the bride had enough.

She called

the Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute and got herself an attorney.

And the attorney happens to be the director of the Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute.

His name is Theodore Frank.

Ted, welcome to the...

May I call you Ted or do you prefer Theodore?

Please.

Ted is perfect.

Thank you.

Okay.

Pleasure to be here.

Thank you.

So tell me.

Go ahead.

No, I just want to give credit to my co-counsel, Adam Schulman, and the folks at the Liberty Justice Center.

Okay.

So tell so tell me that this is an incredible story to happen here in America.

I feel like it's, I don't know,

1950 or something.

Tell me

about this.

I mean, you just had this really arbitrary decision by the mayor's office, and we had a client who'd been vaccinated.

She'd been very careful throughout the pandemic.

She was sewing together masks when the CDC was still telling people don't wear masks.

And to,

you know, she had the wedding set up.

She had limited the guest list to 70 to

meet social distancing requirements and capacity restrictions.

And

to have the rug pulled out under her just a few weeks before her wedding upset her.

I would imagine it did.

And don't mess with a bride just a few weeks before her wedding.

So

when you guys took the case,

there were no exceptions.

I mean, unless she was going to be in a strip club, right?

That that's exactly right.

And, you know, somebody suggested to us, hey, why don't you just hold the wedding there?

But, you know,

this isn't just

sneak onto the dance floor and start dancing.

You know, the venue

doesn't want to lose its license and

she had a contractual obligation to be

f following the venue's COVID restrictions.

So

the only way to get out of this is

to get

the District of Columbia to remove its restrictions.

It's odd that they are doing it, that they did this now.

I mean, a year ago, okay.

But why now?

Well,

you know, some of it was,

you know, D.C.

had completely shut down, so

there weren't any venues until a few months ago.

But

what we've learned over the last year is that our public health bureaucracy doesn't really know what they're doing.

And they just come up with arbitrary restrictions

that don't make sense.

And

we've had all this hygiene theater.

about closing playgrounds down, even though outdoors is exactly where you want to be during a pandemic.

And this is all very counterproductive to sort of say it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated,

you know, you want to encourage people to be vaccinated.

That's how we get rid of this thing.

And to say, oh, it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated.

It doesn't matter if your guests are vaccinated.

We still have to pretend like

a vaccinated bride and a vaccinated groom are going to spread cooties.

And

it's just dumbfounding.

And so

we're very privileged to get to bring this litigation, and we hope that just the threat of litigation gets DC to back down.

Okay, so they already have backed down.

They've given a press conference and said,

things are changing.

We're not going to do that.

But

that's really probably not good enough, is it?

That's the problem, right?

They've given the press conference.

We're looking for better written assurances.

We'll see what DC does.

We're ready to file the motion for an injunction if DC

isn't consistent with the press conference.

Of course, a press conference isn't legally binding.

You can't take a press conference to the venue.

But given that even the CDC has just opened things up really dramatically

in the last week, in the last 24 hours,

we expect DC to keep its word.

And

the embarrassment

of just a really insane regulation, I think,

and getting called out on it has gotten them to back down.

So, Ted,

I used to believe in a lot of things, including the rule of law here.

But I'm not so sure anymore.

What are the ramifications to the rest of us if this case is lost?

Oh, we're not going to lose.

But,

you know,

to the extent

that

government can impose arbitrary restrictions

on speech, that's obviously very, very bad.

So, what is it?

If you say

you're not going to lose, what are the ramifications for the rest of us when you win?

Well,

I think it's

this is pretty straightforward black letter law that you can't have these sorts of that dancing is a component of expressive speech, and you can't have speech restrictions when there are less restrictive alternatives available

and that accomplish the same goals.

And so

we're very confident that D.C.

will either back down or that we will win in court.

We're very confident that Margaret will get to dance at her wedding.

And

it's a good thing when courts are enforcing the Bill of Rights.

I have to tell you,

I'm glad that she is, you know,

just for political purposes.

I'm glad she's not an anti-vaxxer and, you know, all of those things, because it would have been lost with all of that.

I'm glad she was somebody that was sewing masks to double up on the masks and following all the rules

and,

you know, and now is standing up against the insanity that is affecting all of us.

Thank you so much, Ted.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for having us on the show.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

It's nuts.

Nuts.

Did you see the tweet from President Biden last night?

The one where he just said,

Yeah, it was.

No, I mean, the one thing you knew about President Trump was he was in charge of his Twitter.

Yeah.

You know,

he was doing that.

Quite clear.

Yeah.

But

what's really not clear is who is tweeting for him.

So I think this was some 20-something that just said,

the rule is now simple.

Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.

We're going to come out the house and get you.

I mean, I think this was some 20-year-old that was, you know, in charge of his Twitter feed last night.

I couldn't believe the arrogance.

I couldn't believe the arrogance.

So many things that are infuriating about it.

Obviously, like, as we pointed out earlier, this is the United States of America.

The president has no constitutional power whatsoever to make rules that would apply to us in this manner.

So even if you want to say, well, then the states should apply his guidance into laws, well, then it still wouldn't be the president of the United States doing this.

But beyond all of that, like, he acts as if, come on, guys, this is easy.

What the hell are you talking about?

You had different guidance two weeks ago.

You guys have changed your opinion on this 500,000 times.

It's not easy at all.

People, can't you understand why people would be totally out

of dark on this?

Why do you think they changed it?

I mean, because literally, just a couple of weeks, we've been saying this since the vaccine was out.

Yeah.

You should just tell everybody.

Yeah, get a vaccine and go back to work, take the the mask off.

And they didn't and didn't and didn't and didn't.

You know, Fauci was like, maybe next Mother's Day, we'll be able to, you know, kiss mom through the mask and maybe only one plate of glass.

Right.

You know, I mean,

and now all of a sudden the CDC is like, nope, you're good.

You know,

take the mask off.

I don't know what the reasoning is.

I mean, obviously, eventually this had to happen, right?

You know, there's people who've been saying for a while that, like, oh, they're never going to remove these restrictions.

I mean, I don't think that was ever real.

And I think that this is giving Biden being president gives blue states the opportunity to take these restrictions off because before they couldn't admit that Trump had any success or anything was positive.

So now that Biden's president, they can now take the masks off and claim, like, oh, finally, Biden's here to save the day.

I do think that, like, there has been, over the past couple of weeks, seemingly legitimate pushback from media members questioning questioning them and hammering them on this point.

And it was, we've been doing it forever, and they never listened.

When the media, and I think it's because the media,

those people in the media are now vaccinated and they want to go back to doing

what they want.

I don't think anybody at CNN did.

I mean, Sanjay Gupta was like, I'm practically in tears last night.

It's our national nightmare.

Can we take the mask off?

Should we take the mask off?

I can't wait to take the mask off, but I'm not sure if we can take the mask off.

I know.

There's all sorts of goblins in these people's heads about whether they can take it off.

But I think they don't want to be the victim of a shaming online when they're seen outside without a mask on.

And so they want to be able, they have to be told.

They've been telling you the entire time.

You have to listen to science.

It's so easy.

Just listen to what the government says.

So they need the government to say that it's okay, even though they all know it's okay.

They need the government to tell them that their lives can go on as normal, unlike a lot of people in red states who say, you know what, look, we've looked at this,

we've understood this a lot better than we did March 2020.

And we understand now,

look at the science.

It clearly states that once you're vaccinated, you are in really good shape to go out with almost no risk whatsoever.

So people are doing it, and they're doing it all over the place.

And the media, I think, knows.

They know this is nonsense and the CDC is being way too careful for God knows what reason they've admitted more or less that it's because they don't want to change the culture yet they don't they want mask culture to continue it's why Kamala Harris is posting pictures of herself on a zoom call with a mask on

and you know look I think they all know just like we all know that this is craziness.

And finally, they're admitting it.

I don't know if it's the pressure.

There have been actual interviews of people pushing back on them on this.

Maybe that's part of it.

Maybe it's just complete embarrassment.

I don't know.

Maybe the American people are to shame themselves.

I don't even know what.

I honestly don't even know why I asked you.

I'm sorry, I asked a known grandmother killer

for his advice on mass.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Mr.

Dave Rubin from the Rubin Report and the author of Don't Burn This Book.

Welcome to the program, Dave.

How are you?

I'm good.

It's good to see you guys.

It's good to be here in the free state of Texas, in the free city.

When are you just going to pull the trigger and

come to paradise?

Glenn, you know, I'm a glutton for punishment.

I lasted in the left for a long time.

I was part of the machine, and I have a high tolerance for insanity.

And I think that that has kept me there.

That has kept me there longer than I should be.

I mean, trust me, every piece of me wants to move at this.

Look, there's two reasons basically you stay in L.A.

One, obviously, is the weather.

And then the previous piece in Los Angeles in SoCal was that Hollywood and the biz.

the business that we're all sort of ancillarily in, if you're in politics and media, that was there.

Well, that has completely collapsed.

Now, the weather is still nice,

but it's not enough.

And I'm trying to figure out what to do.

But, you know, like you, I own a couple of businesses, and it's not just me picking up and leaving tomorrow.

It takes a lot of different things.

So we're talking about it because it's depressing there.

It's depressing.

It's sort of, it's not as bad as New York City.

I heard you and Bill O'Reilly a few minutes ago, and New York City is just beyond.

It's dystopian at this point.

But LA has some level of zombie apocalypse to it.

In five years,

if they continue down this path, it really could be escape from New York.

Yeah.

I mean,

I was in, I lived for most of my adult life in Manhattan.

So as Bill was saying, you know, it's like, I know Manhattan.

I love Manhattan.

To be in Midtown was scary.

It was legitimately scary because every, first off, you know, everyone's got the mask.

Everyone's walking alone because no one's going anywhere.

You know, like they're doing little errands, maybe, but no one's going out anywhere, really.

So everyone's alone with the mask kind of head down.

There's board, you know, you got barricades all over the place, cops all over the place.

It's dirty, you know, things are boarded up.

That is not New York City, the greatest city in the entire world, in the history of the world.

I mean, the cultural capital of the world.

Man.

Not now.

Yeah, not L.A., man.

And you know what?

They're saying they're saying they're opening up Broadway and everything else.

But I honestly don't know if New Yorkers are going to be able to deal with it.

There is such an identity with the mask and isolation.

It has become, it really has, I think, become a religion for so many people.

I mean, it's why Cuomo has been saying, we got to follow the science, got to follow the science.

And then what does he do?

CDC comes out and says, okay, get vaccinated and don't wear a mask.

And he says, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not ready for that yet.

Yeah,

I don't think it's hyperbolic at this point to say there was virtually no science behind any of this, that the lockdowns did absolutely nothing.

I mean, we know that.

We absolutely know that the lockdowns did nothing.

They have inflicted a psychological condition on people to now make us afraid of each other, to make us turn on each other.

And what I'm afraid is, what have they seeded us with?

What is next?

What did they just do to us that they could make us do things that are unimaginable, you know, months or years from now?

So I said this last hour,

and there's probably a much better analogy, but the absence of a mask on somebody has become almost like a yellow star.

So many people on the liberal side see the mask as a sign that you're part of the party.

And

when you're not wearing a mask, you're a problem.

And they've been shaming us.

They've been side-eyeing us,

speaking out, calling us names.

How do they remove that mask?

Because it has become part of the identity of the party.

Well, Glenn, that goes directly to the danger that they've been doing for years now, which was calling us all racists and bigots and Nazis.

And I know that you personally, you, Glenn, you've gotten into hot water from the lefty media at times for making the Nazi analogy.

And I completely agree with you on this.

They are, when you make the Nazi analogy, I mean, the irony is these are the people who call all of us Nazis, but the Nazis didn't just show up one day.

It didn't just show up one day.

Yes, it is a process of othering people, saying the worst things about people.

And now it's not just that our political views are odious and should be silenced and kicked off big tech and everything else.

It's that we are literally killing people by not wearing masks, by not bowing to these people.

And

who's actually the ones that are instigating the hate?

It's them.

You want to wear a mask, wear a mask.

You want to get vaccinated, get vaccinated.

That's all on you.

Live your life.

And you can be pro-vaccination and be vaccinated and pro-mask and still have that point of view.

Sure.

I mean,

I don't think so.

Well,

because we respect individual rights.

We respect freedom and liberty.

And what they respect is power and control.

But I think you're making a good point.

You know, this is one of those people get very upset when people make any sort of Nazi reference or Holocaust reference coming, say, from our side, even though they do it all the time.

But yes, at some point, it becomes you've othered people into their not even people anymore.

And what do you do with those not people?

So, I, you know, I was going to talk to me to you about this later if we had time, but since we're talking about this, I am so sick and tired of being called a Nazi.

I am so sick and tired of becoming called an anti-Semite by the left.

When the tweets about

the attack on Jerusalem, I mean, I read this yesterday.

I don't know if you saw this, but a Muslim actress,

she,

and I'm quoting, this is what she tweeted.

I would have killed all the Jews of the world, but I kept some to show the world why I killed them.

Adolf Hitler.

Who's the Nazi here?

Yeah, this is a

anti-Semite.

Blue check person on Twitter.

You're allowed to do it.

You know, Trump's not allowed to be on Twitter.

Yeah, I mean, the amount of crazy hate that I'm seeing on Twitter is off the charts.

Look, you know, Glenn, first off, the idea that you would be called this, you've been such an incredible friend to the Jewish people, to Israel, to truth and history and all of those things.

But what's happening is, you know, we've been in a nonstop war on reality that has morphed into a full-on war on truth.

Nobody understands history.

Nobody understands geography.

You know, if you listen to the way the mainstream media talks about it, they seem like they're talking about this massive, ever-expanding country.

Israel, I mean, you've been there many times.

It's the size of New Jersey that at some point without the West Bank is about six miles wide.

You can drive across it in a couple hours, north to south.

You could drive several times in a day.

It's obscenely tiny.

There is one tiny little nation-state for the Jews.

There are many states that are Christian-dominated, many states that are Muslim-dominated.

And this is just the never-ending battle for, look, the Jews have a 5,000-year brutal history and somehow have stuck around.

So I know the Israelis will stick around and I know they're smart enough to stick around and have the will to live, but watching the left just completely become everything I've been saying it is and the vile stuff from Omar and Talib and these people, it's incredible.

That's why I love talking to you, Dave, because I could have a plan for a conversation, but it always goes off the rails because you're so fascinating.

Let me ask you this, as I was thinking about it.

You're an agnostic, right?

No, I wouldn't say I'm agnostic anymore.

No, I'm a believer.

I'm a believer.

I'll tell you something.

Did you happen to see a clip that was viral about a week or two ago with Jordan Peterson on Tucker Carlson's Fox Nation show?

Did you happen to see it?

Yeah, that was crazy.

So there's an incredible clip.

Maybe your guys could pull it up if we could snag the audio if possible.

But basically, what Jordan says, and I think it's the best explanation of faith that I have heard that makes sense to me.

He said that when he was 25 years old, he started telling the truth because he started to believe that the truth, no matter the cost, would be better than any alternative.

Meaning that if you say the truth for truth's sake, that that no matter, it doesn't mean good things are going to happen, but it will be the best option no matter what the lie you put out there is.

And then what he went on to say was, and this is the key part, he said that doing that, believing in truth for truth's sake and not going along with the lie, that that is the ultimate expression of faith because that is taking a leap of faith for truth.

And I've heard him say some version of that many times.

Obviously, I was on tour with him for a year and a half, but I thought the succinct way, and hopefully I gave it some slight justice there,

that makes sense to me.

Truth for truth's sake, no matter what.

And that is really faith.

That is faith.

I think you're exactly right.

I think he was right.

Let's play the clip real quick.

You make your decisions in life, and I decided when I was very young, I'm in my mid-20s, that I was going to say what I believed and see what happened.

I talked to you earlier in the talk about adventure, you know, about the adventure of truth and I don't think I'm happy about what has happened and I certainly have dragged my family through their fair share of, well, both hell and

also incomprehensible opportunity.

It's expanded our lives in both directions to a tremendous degree.

But it's certainly been an adventure.

It's not been dull.

And

I don't believe that it was a mistake.

Whatever happens as a consequence of telling the truth is the best thing that can happen.

It doesn't really matter how it looks to you at the moment or maybe even across the years.

Because you have to,

it's an article of faith in some sense.

Do you believe that reality is better constituted as a consequence of truth or falsity?

If you believe that reality is best constituted as a consequence of truth, then you have a responsibility to speak the truth.

And you can't assess the consequences and say, well, that was a mistake, because part of the decision that reality is best constituted as a consequence of the truth is the decision that no matter what happens is the best if it's a consequence of telling the truth.

Yes.

And so that's what I conclude.

It's like.

It's correct.

Okay, so I think, you know, Dave, I don't know if you know this.

Do you know

why the blaze is called the blaze?

Do you know why I named it that?

I'm sure I should know.

I'm sure I should know.

I probably do know, but please tell me.

No,

it was a private decision.

I've talked about it a few times, but a private decision.

I called it the blaze because I believe when you stand in the fire of the truth, It's a God thing.

When you stand in the truth, it purifies you because you can't have any lies a part of your life.

those will burn you up.

But when you stand firmly in the truth, that fire won't destroy you.

It destroys everything else that is lies.

And it is a,

it really is an article of faith.

I believe that the truth wins.

That's eventually.

That's the key part, that the truth for truth's sake.

That you have to take a leap of faith to believe that.

Right.

Because we don't have empirical evidence that just if you tell the truth, things will work out.

And that's actually not what Jordan's saying.

Not every.

Right.

You have no guarantee.

And bad things will happen for sure, but they will be the best possible consequence because you went for truth.

That, to me, is such a

human, granular, decent explanation of faith that

I believe that.

I believe in that.

And I also believe in things that are beyond me.

So, Dave, talking about truth, I mean, there are things things that,

for instance, you know,

you can be a climate denier, as they call it,

but you have to accept that there are certain things that are true that show, you know, the temperature is rising, blah, blah, blah.

What that means is

different than the facts.

So, when people on the left see the facts of

Israel and it being foretold and everything else.

How do you dismiss that?

Well, Glenn, first off, so many of the people on the left don't believe in facts.

And that goes to what I was talking about before, about a war on truth.

Like, for example, I'll tell you a few facts right now, and let's see if we can agree on facts.

There was never a country known as Palestine.

Is that true or false?

True.

That is true.

There was no country ever known as Palestine.

There was an area that was part of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years that was then part of the British Empire.

And when the British left, they said to the Jews that were there and to the Arabs, they said, we're going to split this thing.

It's the 1947 partition plan.

We're going to split this thing.

Do you guys accept?

You know, you'll take your country, you'll take yours.

By the way, they didn't say it to Palestinians because there were no people known as Palestinians.

There were Arabs who lived in that area.

Well, the Jews said yes.

The Arabs said no.

And then a war happened.

And then thus Israel was born.

Now, if you can't even have this conversation when people are saying, well, they're they're occupying Palestine, well, you say, okay, well, who was the prime minister of Palestine?

Who was the president of Palestine?

What did the nation look like?

They can't even accept that.

I mean, if you literally say just that,

they will call you all of the worst things.

Even if you think about what's happening right now, it's like

if there was a genocide happening, Jews are generally pretty good at math.

This is the worst genocide of all time.

The Gaza population is exploding.

It goes up every year, as does the Arab population in the West Bank.

Also, don't forget, there's a border of Gaza with Egypt, because Gaza used to be part of Egypt until they attacked Israel and lost Gaza.

Well, if Israel was slaughtering all of these people, you'd think that their Egyptian brothers might open up the border.

But, Glenn, as I'm sure you know, Egypt bombed the hell out of the border to keep them there because they don't want them.

And they filled tunnels up with water and they blew up houses and all that.

So

that's a little offshoot of from what your question is related to.

Are you trying to connect this to the faith thing?

I'm trying to get it to that even if you were to tell basic truths to people, they'll just say no.

They'll just no, no, can't be, and they don't want to hear it.

They don't want to hear it.

So that's why so much of what we've been fighting is an erasure of history as well.

They don't want to know basic history because they have to fit everything to their narrative rather than fit history into reality.

And then again, you have to deny history.

Again, you have to deny facts.

Every time that happens, you do see genocide.

every time someone tries to change or erase history uh and force people to do things genocide happens of course and let's even if you removed who was there first removed the bible removed everything let's just say there was a completely 50-50 who's wrong who's right and people are bombing each other well the the new meme of the left is oh israel is disproportionate in their use of force

that the implication is that you should be proportionate in force so if someone comes to your house to stab you, you should only stab them equally.

It's psychotic.

It's absolutely psychotic.

By the way, the United States has never been disproportionate in force.

Colin Powell had the Powell doctrine, which was that if you attack a country, if whatever military action you do, you do it with overwhelming force so it doesn't happen again.

And otherwise,

you continue to fight.

You want to believe?

Go ahead.

Right.

You'll be fighting forever.

No, no, no, no.