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Welcome to Stu, Stu Bergiere, our executive producer and cohort on the program every day, 60 minutes just in an interview, Stu,

with Attorney General Keith Ellison.

And they discussed the guilty verdict on Chauvin.

And

he was asked:

Did you have any reason to believe, did the prosecution have any evidence that race was a factor?

No.

No.

Not any.

This is from a guy who would love to say, yes, crazy.

It was crazy.

It was crazy.

When you first heard the word guilty,

you thought what?

Ellison said gratitude, humility, followed by a certain sense of, I'll say, satisfaction.

It's what we were aiming for the whole time.

Spent 16 years as a criminal defense lawyer, so I'll admit I felt a little bad for the defendant.

I think he deserved to be convicted, but he is a human being.

Wait, what?

What?

He's not.

They had no evidence that this was a race killing.

So what are we doing?

Why are we tearing our country apart?

This is one guy making a bad mistake and, you know,

committing a felony on another guy.

That's what this is.

This is two Americans.

One died.

One is in jail.

That's all this is, two Americans.

It's not white and black.

Why are we, why is this such a big case if they had zero evidence that it was race-based?

Yeah, of course they had none.

They never had any.

And

again, demeans the life of the people who get lost in these situations because instead of recognizing each individual as having value, we only see people as members of larger groups.

And that is a problem.

It's a collectivist problem.

It is the same problem we've been facing for a very long time in this country.

And, you know, like I was listening to a report this morning, and I guess Merrick Garland is going to be investigating the Louisville police

for their practices.

And that's where Breonna Taylor, the Breonna Taylor case went.

And they interviewed someone.

They're like, and she's like crying and she's sobbing and she's saying, I just think of Breonna Taylor because, you know, I'm 26 years old and she was 26 when she died.

And it's like,

I'm sorry, is this about you?

I don't understand.

I thought this was about Breonna Taylor because should we be saying her name or your name?

Which name should we be saying?

I don't.

Well, so let me finish what Ellison said because it's exactly the same point.

It's exactly the same point.

In our society, there's a social norm that killing certain kinds of people is more tolerable than other kinds of people.

In order for us to stop and pay serious attention to this case and be outraged by it, it's not necessary that Derek Chauvin had a specific racial intent to harm George Floyd.

Well, first of all, I don't buy into that premise.

I don't think it's any more acceptable to kill a black person than it is a white person.

Of course not.

Of course not.

I mean, I, you know, that's why I have a problem with abortion.

I don't think there's any difference between killing a born baby and a baby just about to be born.

There's no difference.

There's no difference.

And I don't care what the color is.

Why would,

if we were so racist, why would conservatives be so upset about abortion clinics?

The vast majority are black babies.

So

why would we care?

Because we don't see race.

We see life.

And that is an important difference.

He said,

the fact is that we know that through housing patterns, through employment, through wealth, through a whole range of other things, so often people of color, black people, end up with harsh treatment from law enforcement.

And other folks doing the exact same thing don't.

If an officer doesn't throw a white neurologist to the ground and he doesn't sit on top of his neck, is he doing it because this is a fellow white brother?

No, he's doing it because he thinks this is an important person.

And if I treat them badly, somebody's going to ask me about this.

This person probably has lawyers.

No, that is not why.

Please don't want to assault everyone and just do it to people they think don't have lawyers.

That is an incomprehensibly stupid read of the situation.

But here, again, again, here is the point that you were making.

Is this about something else?

Because this is not about...

This stopped being about Derek Chauvin and his racism the minute they said

there was no motivation on race.

Right.

None.

It's not about that.

No.

You know, and

it's so, it's just this odd thing of

trying to make everyone a member of a group instead of an individual.

I mean,

if a mailman murders a family, right, somewhere, a white family in the suburbs, do you ever watch that story and go, oh my God, I also have a mailman.

That could have been me.

I never think like that.

I don't look and say, oh, my gosh, another white person had something happen to them.

Therefore, I also could have been the victim of that crime.

I do think that way.

I do think about that.

I do think that way on

teenagers or young kids getting, you know, stopped or killed by the police.

I do think about it, but not because they're white or black, just because I want to make sure my kids understand, don't do that.

Don't do that.

Right.

But again, when the police are telling you to do something, you do that, not what that person just did, because that will happen to you.

Yeah,

there was a thing that happened with an NBA player, and they were asked, like, how does it feel?

You're this big NBA superstar, and

you could be shot at any time because you're black.

And

it's like, well, you know, he could be shot any time if he runs from the police or like tries to stab a woman.

Like, yeah, he has just as good a chance of being shot as any other person if he starts doing those things.

You know, I'll be honest with you, in his gated community, probably not going to get shot.

And I understand what Allison is saying, and that, like, there are certain areas of the country that crime is much less lesser of a problem.

So, that officers that work in those communities probably do feel less threatened going into them.

It has nothing to do with color.

It has to do with crime rates, right?

If you're seeing, you know, if gunshots are buzzing by your police car every hour, you're going to be a lot more on edge in those communities.

And that has nothing to do with the color of people's skin in those communities.

It has to do with the rates of crime and how many people get shot and killed and how many times they have to go out to see a violent crime in action.

That's sensible.

I mean, it's sensible.

They're going to be managed there.

I live in a good neighborhood and I believe that, and I wish we could do a test on this, but you can't.

I believe if we did a reenactment of, you know, my kid out about to stab somebody else while somebody else is kicking a girl in the head right on my front lawn, I would bet you if the police came at the same time, I bet you they would shoot my son.

And they should.

If he was the one that had the knife and said, I'm going to kill you, and they should.

But I absolutely believe they would have done that to my son.

And you'd still be devastated over it, but that wouldn't mean.

Devastated, but they'd be justified.

I would look at that and go, you are stupid son of a to him,

not to the cops.

Right.

I mean, it's...

And that's not to say none of these things ever occur.

Of course they do, but it's about the larger narrative of trying to...

I mean, you know, it would be, you look at some of

the way, you know, the different things the media says, and they paint a picture that if you are African American, you are going to get shot by police.

It's basically going to happen.

You know, I mean, I wouldn't, that's why people guess thousands and tens of thousands shot every year by police because that's what it feels like.

The priority given by the media is so high and it's so low for white people who get shot by police that people don't even know that white people get shot by police.

They don't know that more white people get shot by police than black people in this country.

Let me change subjects because I've got a couple of good news things to get to.

Yes, I am buttering you up for

something bad, but

let me just give you a couple of good news things.

New poll out.

This is from the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics.

And it was:

How do people

under 24

look at institutions?

What do you trust?

What do you not trust?

16 options were listed.

A low of just 19% of respondents say they trusted Facebook all or most of the time.

19%.

79% of those polled said they trusted the social media company some of the time or never.

79%.

That's good news.

Those who took the survey said they felt the same way about Twitter, with just 21% saying they trust it to do the right thing most of the time.

Only Wall Street and the media scored in a comparable range.

That's phenomenal.

A total of 20% of those polls say they trusted Wall Street to do the right thing all or most of the time, while 22 said the same thing about the media.

Only 19% of the people surveyed said they trusted Facebook all or most of the time.

Now,

more than half of those polled, or 58% of them, said they trusted their college or university administration to do the right thing all or most of the time.

So that's bad news.

But listen to this.

49% answered the same about the U.S.

military.

47% about the Supreme Court.

45% about the United Nations.

45% about the police.

So...

You've got 19 and 21% for Facebook and Twitter.

You have 45% of the youth

trusting the police.

42% local government.

39% about Google.

I don't know how those people get away with it.

38% about the president.

32% with the federal government.

So the federal government is trusted less than your local police.

45% of young Americans say they trusted the police to do the right thing.

So that's good news.

And one other thing.

I'm completely convinced.

And there's a great segment

with

the podcast last week where

I'm talking to a guy who is a farmer.

And

he's actually a historian, but I just want to paint him as a farmer for a second.

And right before we went on, one of the producers said, what's the noise in the background?

And he said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm disking today.

And I don't know if anybody in the control room on either end knew what disking was, but I did.

And I said to him towards the end of the interview, I said, I

like hearing from a guy who even knows what disking is, but

is actually doing it or having somebody do it right there on their property.

And he said, well, yeah, I'm a farmer.

And disking, do you know what it is, Stu?

Do you know what disking is?

Yeah, it's a soil preparation practice that usually follows the plowing, whether it was a deep or shallow soil tillage.

That's how I usually describe it to my friends.

That's how you describe it?

Yeah, okay.

All right, you were looking it up.

So, disking is

those round blades that kind of go in and it just turns the soil up, okay?

And you do it just to prepare the soil for planting and everything else.

And

we started talking about how America lost something when we detached from the farmer.

When you are living in the center of the country and and you have anything at all to do with farming,

your kids don't have to have sex education.

They see it.

And when they're young, they're like, why is that cow on top of another cow?

You see the circle of life.

You know how to deal with life, with birth, with death,

all these things that are just deeply rooted.

And you...

You also learn basic kindness and responsibility, not only for yourself, but for your neighbor.

And most importantly, you learn gratitude

because

life is not fair.

And, you know, we don't have a problem with this when you're a farmer.

Farmers aren't, they're not like, I want reparations because there was too much rain or not enough rain.

Or I did absolutely everything right and then there was really a bad windstorm or hail on the last day.

No,

there's no reparations.

You did everything you could and it still failed so you have gratitude when it doesn't fail and you're not looking to blame someone when it does

that's what we've lost

well let me give you another piece of good news here i think this is i mean if it lasts if it lasts millennials are leading a rural revitalization according to tractor supply the tractor supply CEO has said their stock is way up.

They said they're seeing people come in now.

The core customer,

they are gaining core customers now.

The new customer is the millennial customer.

We're seeing a revitalization of rural lead by millennials.

They are coming into the housing market and for the first time in I don't even know how long, 25 to 40 year olds are coming in and they are buying chickens, they're buying tractors,

they're gardening and they're into self-reliance.

This is a really good thing.

When 25-year-olds are now, again,

I think they think, you know, it's just, you know, it's a farm.

We just plant it and it grows.

Let's check in a year from now or maybe two years from now.

It is the hardest work you've ever done in your life, but it is really worth it.

But that's good news.

If we can get people to get rooted back into the soil,

people's common sense just kinds just happens to reappear for some reason or another.

That's why all of the counties that are farming counties in California generally are conservative counties because you just think differently when you've actually had to grow your own food or grow anything, including animals.

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Stu, I read a

I read a story today from the Post.

Ocasio-Cortez said she likely won't be able to attend President Biden's first address to Congress because COVID safety restrictions are in place in the House chamber, and she's not going to be able to go.

Yeah.

During a virtual town hall meeting, she said this.

Apparently, senior members get first dibs into the chamber for Wednesday night speech.

That's tomorrow.

She said, but there are very strict COVID provisions

that the House had to put in place.

So she's not going to be able to enter the chamber for the joint address.

It's just senior members.

Only about 200 senior leadership members will be in attendance.

So

dare I say, dare I even, I mean, do I need to even say

this is,

please pray for everybody's security.

Please play, pray for everybody's security.

This is just, I don't know.

I don't like it.

You don't like that they're not letting everybody in?

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I mean, you know, especially because they've all been, probably all been vaccinated.

I don't know AOC's stance on vaccines, but

they've probably all been vaccinated.

I don't know why they wouldn't just open it up at this point.

Because they're sending a message.

Yeah, just like he's wearing a mask on a Zoom call, right?

Yes.

I guess that's...

That's what the White House said yesterday.

He's sending a message to the world.

What, that we're dummies?

But it seems like this is being used to say, like, oh, AOC doesn't really want to go and

she's not happy with it.

She should be thrilled with this administration.

She's basically running the country right now.

I think she is thrilled with this administration.

She said he's better than they ever expected.

That's AOC.

That's not a good thing.

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We're very, very excited.

It's 2021.

We have the big special that's happening tomorrow night.

We're going to cover the president's joint session of Congress speech live tomorrow.

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It's 9 p.m.

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We're going to do a speech, and then we've got everybody and anybody coming on to talk about the reaction.

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And

I'm also very excited because there's another big thing happening in California.

Gavin Newsom looks like they've counted all of the recall signatures and the recall is on, which means some glass ceilings can be shattered because Caitlin Jenner is going to be running for governor.

And if she were to win, that would make her, of course, Stu the

first

female governor of California.

Yeah.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

She'd also be the first trans governor.

Oh, would she?

But yeah, I care about those things.

Not at all.

I mean, really, not at all.

Really?

When it comes to governor, yeah, I don't really care.

Don't care.

I know, right?

There's people out there, David Duke, Richard Spencer, Ibram Kendi, Robin D'Angelo.

Yeah.

People like that care, I know, about

all the immutable characteristics of the governors in place.

But other than that very tight-knit group of identitarians,

I don't know.

I think you'd put us into the category of

people that say, would she be a good governor?

And that I don't really even care about because we live in Texas.

So

we've written California off a long, long time ago.

This would be interesting.

Would she be a good governor?

I mean, I have absolutely no idea what her policies would be or anything else.

I know she'd be better than Gavin Newsome.

Yes, which is almost impossible.

We actually made up these mugs, anyone else for governor?

and it looks like a political slogan it just says anyone else because there's a lot of people with crappy governors there's something in california that's going to go on where we're really going to test that thesis like yeah i mean i don't know if california do you really mean anyone else

anyone else it's very true uh it's it's got to be conflicting for the left i mean can they oppose a trans governor Can they oppose a

female governor?

We couldn't.

Can we oppose a Kardashian?

That's our hatred.

Is that possible?

Are you allowed to oppose a Kardashian?

Sure.

I don't.

I don't know.

Have you seen what people have been saying online about this?

Trans activists, trans activists see no value in Caitlyn Jenner.

Let me give you some tweets from Equality California.

Quote, make no mistake, we can't wait to elect a trans governor of California.

But Caitlin Jenner spent years telling the LGBTQ plus community to trust Donald Trump.

We saw how that worked out.

Yeah, actually, pretty well.

Now she wants us to trust her.

Hard pass.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Hold it.

We're supposed to care.

We're supposed to think you care about the policies of the individual?

When did that happen?

Stop recall after Trump banned transgender troops from serving in the military, attacked transgendered students.

I don't remember that.

Even tried to allow homeless shelters to turn away trans women.

Caitlin Jenner still hired his former inner circle to run her campaign.

Californians and trans Californians in particular understand all too well the risk of electing another reality TV star who cares more about fame and money than civil rights, health care, and the safety of our communities.

We can't let that happen.

Governor Gavin Newsom is a pro-equality champion who has spent his career fighting for LGBTQ plus civil rights and social justice.

He's been there for us time and time again.

It's now our turn to be there for him.

Stop the recall.

recall.

This is uniform

from not only

activist groups, but the media.

Esquire had a headline.

Caitlin Jenner's campaign provides cover for the GOP's hateful anti-trans legislation.

So it wasn't.

Well, you know,

there is Alyssa Milano, too.

I mean, don't leave her out.

Don't leave her out.

With all due respect, Caitlin, you're running as a Republican.

Republicans deny your existence and are trying to erase trans youth.

Hell no.

You love that.

Son of anarchy himself, Ron Perlman.

Well done, Caitlin Jenner.

Running for governor wins you the one medal you never got.

Stupidest MFer on earth.

That's wow.

So

funny.

Bruce Jenner won medals.

That's why.

See why how he tied that in there?

Yeah.

Running as a Trump Republican and entering that world, entering a world that hates you, really were the hateful ones, ones, apparently here, Glenn.

Yeah,

let's skip all the rest of these because we all know they're just, they're nothing but hypocrites.

They don't actually care about anything, right?

You think they care about glass ceilings, Stu?

I don't think they care about glass ceilings at all.

First trans governor, you think they care about that?

No, not at all.

Yeah, yeah.

No?

I mean, look, if it's an odd thing because they keep asking us to buy into this narrative where everyone hates these minority groups like trans people.

And their pitch is basically Democrats are good people and Republicans are bad people and Republicans are the haters here.

So if Caitlin Jenner did, let's say, run for governor and win, right, as a Republican, wouldn't that go a long way to advance what your goal supposedly is?

Like, if you really believe Republicans hate trans people and what you want for society is to have trans people accepted more broadly, what better way to accomplish that than having a Republican trans candidate?

Yeah.

But you just said the key words.

If you really believe.

They don't really believe.

I don't think they even really believe that Republicans hate gay people.

Right.

I don't think they actually believe that.

That's just a slogan that's been drilled into their head.

If you actually told them, can you defend that?

I don't think they could even defend that.

No, I mean, look at Richard Grinnell, you know, know who was in the trump administration when when they say pete buttigej is the first cabinet person who is gay uh

they're erasing a gay man yeah they look at the rage that comes from the right we are erasing richard grinnell who did a great job and we love richard grinnell right like there's not a this is a uh it's the same thing they do the same thing you know with race and and gender and a lot of this is because none of this is actually real this isn't it doesn't have it doesn't have anything to do with race or gender or really anything else it has everything to do with politics.

That's it.

And like, I got to say, Glenn, like with the Caitlin Jenner thing, this is sort of the way this is supposed to work, right?

Like,

they should be opposing Caitlin Jenner because, at least she's talked about,

wants lower taxes and lower regulation.

They should be opposing her because she doesn't agree with her policies, right?

So if you think those policies are bad, that's a good reason to oppose the person.

It doesn't mean you hate all trans people, but they have the benefit of the the doubt on that, and we don't for some reason.

Whenever we oppose someone, if we oppose Barack Obama, it's because he's black, not because he wants higher taxes, because he wants more regulation, because he wants to because he's a Marxist.

Right.

It's like, we can't be that.

We oppose Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama equally, despite the fact they're from all different groups.

There's white people in there, there's women in there, there's black people in there, there's men in there, and we oppose all of them because the reason the opposition is there is because we don't like what they want to do to the country.

It's got nothing to do with the color of their skin.

It's got nothing to do with their gender.

And like in some ways, the Caitlin Jenner thing is a model for what should happen.

Democrats should oppose her because Gavin Newsom is much more of a socialist than she is.

Right, right.

And they should celebrate.

Wait, wait, wait.

Republicans are not as hateful as I thought.

They would support Caitlin Jenner.

I don't know if she would win, but they would support her.

Yeah, if she's a good candidate, if she's the right candidate, why not?

Why not?

Now, if she's a crazy reality star, no.

But,

I mean, why wouldn't we?

Why wouldn't we if she was the best candidate?

That's the problem here.

We don't get afforded that opportunity at all, ever.

No, and we should.

We should.

You know, if we think their views suck, we can say so.

Without being called a racist or a homophobe or a transphobe or a phobe phobe, do we ever get afforded that opportunity?

As of right now, the answer to that is no.

No, and I, I, you know, you've, you've, you've, you've influenced me, Glenn, on this.

I want you to know that.

Have I?

Yes, over the years.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, I'm, I kind of like wax on, wax off.

You're like the karate kid, and I'm the

sort of the Miyagi in this situation.

Okay, all right.

And tell me about it.

You had a piece of

information and knowledge and wisdom on race and the differences between people that I think of often, which is, you know, why would you hate people because of their skin color or their sexual orientation or their gender?

Exactly.

When you can, of course, get to know them and hate them for real legitimate reasons.

Right.

There's legitimate reasons to hate people.

Those are not.

Just take the time.

I know you're lazy.

You're like, I got a lot to do.

Why can't I just hate them for color?

Because it's so much better when you hate them for a legitimate reason.

Oh, it's so much more visceral and real.

You know, you can.

That person is really annoying.

Outside of skating color, none of that has anything to do with this.

We just know their character.

Did you know this about them?

And then when you find that out, you're like, oh, man, I hate them even more.

Right.

See, you didn't actually hate them before.

No.

You got to get to know somebody to really hate them.

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Welcome to Wednesday Wednesday.

Is it Wednesday?

No, it's Tuesday.

Tomorrow is Wednesday, and the president is giving his speech tomorrow night, which I mean, I don't know what he's going to say.

What is he going to say, Stu?

Because usually these are about

asking people for, you know, big programs, telling the American people, hey, there's a big program, but

why is he telling us about it?

There's a scene in a lot of movies, and I think he's going to kind of do a similar thing.

You know, when there's someone who's at a bank, like a teller, and someone comes in and says, give me all your money?

I think it's going to be a version of that speech.

A version of that.

Well, I mean, really, it's not the American people that are going to pay for all of this.

I mean, I guess he could do something where he could talk to our children and our grandchildren.

But really, I mean, why not just have a meeting with the Fed?

Hey, I just, I want to make my case here that you should print even more money.

He's already proposed and has put through in legislation.

There's already $10 trillion

that is in play right now in his first 100 days, $10

trillion.

Now, remember when we were talking about, oh, gosh, what was it?

Some big thing.

It wasn't the Green New Deal, but it was like the Green New Deal.

And we were like, that would cost $10 trillion.

And everyone's like that's crazy.

He's just spent $10 trillion on I don't even know what.

What?

In his first 100 days.

What have we spent it on?

It's really?

Well, I mean, we went through the first bill, which had very little to do with, I mean, it had a little bit of money in there for COVID, a little bit of money going to back to the people, but that was about it.

Do you know how you could change the world with $10 trillion?

Do you think anything that he has proposed will change anything?

You'll be able to walk out

with an exception of destruction of souls and people and work ethics and everything else.

Do you think we would be able to stand back at any point and say to our children, that

because we spent that money.

Like,

our parents and grandparents could go back and say, we all came together for the space program, and that is what we spent our money on.

And you'd be like, okay, well, you know what?

You know, we could argue about it, but probably money well spent.

I mean, you know.

Certainly a great achievement.

A great achievement, one of the greatest human achievements of all time.

Do you think we're going to get any greatest human achievement?

I would say $10 trillion to go put a colony on Mars.

Okay.

Okay, I'd consider it.

I mean, it's not my kind of thing.

I don't.

And I don't like the government spending.

But I mean, if we're going to spend $10 trillion,

put a

base on the moon and let's put a colony on Mars.

That I would go, okay, I'm really against the government doing all of this.

But if we're going to spend $10 trillion on that, okay, go ahead.

Yeah, there's nothing.

There's nothing of that.

I mean, that's, I think, what he's going to try to paint that picture tomorrow night, you know, where we're spending this money to build up our infrastructure and do these amazing things, and we can work together to do them.

But

we've seen this movie too many times.

You know, this is not how it works out.

Our roads and bridges.

Oh, shut up about our roads and bridges.

It's crumbling.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, these poor roads and bridges.

They should have built them right the first time, apparently.

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Also, we have Byron York on.

He has written a new book called Obsessed that I want to delve into because it touches on a few things that are still going on.

The media was obsessed with destroying Donald Trump.

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Does the truth matter anymore?

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the Byron York Show.

Welcome, Byron.

How are you, sir?

Hi, Glenn.

I'm doing well.

Thanks for having me.

Good.

You know, I have, we've got about 20 minutes and I want to run through a bunch of things with you.

First of all, I was talking to Victor Davis Hansen the other day, and I asked him this question.

And your book really kind of, I mean, this is what your book is about, Obsession.

The obsession that people had on getting rid of Donald Trump and just destroying him at all costs.

And I asked him, when it comes to the media,

the media I know hated themselves because they thought that they had, you know, them playing footsie with him helped him get elected.

But is it just that, or was the media's obsession with this also pushed by the elites in, you know, the FBI or the CIA, any of the deep state stuff that saw Donald Trump as a real threat because he was going to upset the apple cart one way or another,

and they weren't going to have any of that.

Which was the main factor,

the press just hating him and hating themselves, or the deep state really kind of juicing that up and pushing stuff at them?

Yeah, that is an incredibly difficult question.

You're right, the book is about that.

It's called Obsession, and it is about this obsession with getting Trump that began well before he was elected, that continued with the appointment of a special counsel and the whole Russia thing, and then impeachment, and then another impeachment.

So there was

this obsession.

I mean, there were Democrats who introduced a bill to

impeach Donald Trump in 2017 for comments that he made about Colin Kaepernick in the NFL.

So, I mean, that's where we are.

It was an obsession.

So the question is,

you raise a great question.

I'm not a really good armchair psychologist, but I do believe that the success of Trump was deeply threatening to a lot of people.

It was threatening to some people who felt that they had some manner of input and control over the Republican Party agenda, and they became never Trumpers.

It was threatening to people who believed,

you remember this, after 2008 and Obama's big victory in 2008, there was a lot of talk of the Obama coalition, a group of minorities and young people.

And

there was this idea that Democrats had kind of cracked the code and that they would win the presidency from now on because demographic change, especially the rise of the Hispanic population in the United States, would literally ensure the election of a Democratic president from now on.

And they were absolutely stunned that

Trump won.

But you're right, the darker side, the dark underside of that is what the intelligence and law enforcement agencies did

during the Trump period.

And maybe they were feeling threatened in sort of the same way that others were.

But the fact is,

they

surveilled a presidential campaign and they did extraordinary things like the

meeting, which I still can't get over on January 6, 2017, two weeks before Trump is sworn in, in which James Comey, who's then the head of the FBI,

asks to brief brief Trump one-to-one, one-on-one, and he tells him that the FBI has this information about him and prostitutes in Russia.

And Comey specifically worried ahead of time that Trump might take it as kind of, and this is Comey's words, a J.

Edgar Hooper move.

And of course the reason Comey worried about that is because it was a J.

Edgar Hoover move.

And you know what?

So what I'm trying to get at here is you had the intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies doing extraordinary things, the whole dossier, to try to expel Trump

from the system.

And so there was this broad obsession, and I think the motivations were different to different people,

but it was there, and you're right, it hasn't gone away.

Yeah, and it is the people who supported Trump, and that includes most Democrats, I mean, sorry, most Republicans, whether they were big supporters or not, it doesn't matter.

If you're not in line, now it's your turn to be smeared and destroyed.

And just when you thought the FBI couldn't get any worse, there's a couple of things.

First of all, I read, and I saw your great

article rebutting this.

The FBI now saying that the Alexandria shooting, the baseball shooting, I mean, notice it doesn't have a name.

You have to kind of explain it before people even remember it.

Where Steve Scalise and all of the Republicans

would have been killed if it wasn't by the grace of God.

Just this massacre, the FBI comes out and says that wasn't politically motivated.

The guy had the names of the representatives in his pocket with physical descriptions.

How is this suicide by cop?

Yeah, this was absolutely stunning news.

And we just learned this about a week and a half ago.

And what happened, everybody does remember, it was June 14th, 2017.

The team was practicing.

They were in Alexandria.

It was all Republicans practicing for the congressional baseball game.

Man comes up, asked one of the Republicans, Jeff Duncan, Republican from South Carolina, is leaving early.

Man comes up and asks, Is this the Republican team or the Democratic team?

And Jeff Duncan, having no idea what's going on, who the man is, says it's the Republican team.

And shortly after, he pulls out a semi-automatic rifle, begins firing, grievously wounds Steve Scalise, a lobbyist, is terribly wounded as well.

Two others wounded less seriously

until the man James Hodgkinson is finally killed.

So you're absolutely right.

He prides himself as a member of the resistance.

He's a house inspector in Ohio

and he

posts things on his Facebook page like, quote, Trump is a traitor.

Trump has destroyed our democracy.

It's time to destroy Trump and company.

He was also part of a a Facebook group

which was called Terminate the Republican Party.

So he quits his job, goes to Alexandria, lives in his van with his gun,

and waits.

And you're right, he specifically targets Republicans.

He has a list in his pocket of congressional Republicans he wants to kill.

Okay, and so he does it.

And there's absolutely no doubt, and he's a big Bernie Sanders supporter for what it's worth.

There's no doubt that he attacks

these members of Congress because they are Republicans.

It was a clear act of violent, politically motivated domestic terrorism.

And if you remember, even at that time, the FBI was telling us that the greatest threat to our national security was violent domestic terrorism.

Okay,

so FBI, obviously, Hutchinson is killed at the scene, so there's no manhunt, but they begin investigating this

and looking into Hodgkinson.

And the shooting is in June, and in November, the FBI has a private meeting with the members of Congress who were there.

And the FBI says, well, we've discovered the cause.

And they say, well,

and the FBI says, well, it's suicide by cop.

And the Republicans are just dumbstruck.

I mean, they said, what?

I mean, they literally go, what?

And they say, look, if you want to commit suicide by cop, you point a gun at police, and that will usually do the trick.

You don't go attack Republican members of the House.

Besides,

there was a small Capitol Police detail at the

practice that day because Steve Scalise, House whip, a Republican whip, was a member of the House leadership, so he had a security detail.

They were in plain clothes.

They were in an unmarked car.

The shooter did not know they were there.

This was not suicide by cop.

There's simply no way in the world it's suicide by cop.

One interesting thing is

Republicans are often pretty discreet about these things.

They didn't leak it.

We didn't hear that.

The FBI told them it was Suicide by Cop in November of 2017.

And we just found it out because one of those Republicans, Brad Winstrup, who was there that day and played a heroic role,

revealed it in a hearing a week and a half ago at the House Intelligence Committee.

And he revealed it because he had Christopher Wray the FBI director in front of him.

So he told him about all this stuff.

And you know what Ray's first response was?

Well, I wasn't director then.

Fine, you weren't director then.

But the FBI did this.

And so Winstrup

sort of demanded that the FBI explain to them what evidentiary and analytical process it went through to determine that this was a suicide by cop as opposed to what it clearly was, a domestic terror attack.

So here's why this is really relevant.

You know, they said that Brian Sicknick was, you know, killed by in the Capitol riots.

They say this is the worst thing that's ever happened.

And they're obsessed over all this.

Sidnick did not die from injuries at the Capitol.

He died of a stroke the next day in the hospital.

So they're trying to make this into really an Alexandria kind of moment where it wasn't.

It was a horrible, horrible moment, but it wasn't something where they were going in and trying to kill everybody, at least seriously like this guy was, could have been, and was horrible in and of itself.

But the media and the FBI seem so focused on only things that come from the right that I am

I don't trust the FBI anymore.

And that is that's saying something, Byron.

I've always trusted the FBI and

the government.

I mean, you know, I've been skeptical, you know, and see, let me see all the evidence, but I don't trust them at all anymore.

Yeah, I think that is one of the saddest results of the last five years.

And I think you're exactly right.

First of all, I think maybe for your listeners, we should say there are lots of parts of the FBI that do old-fashioned crime fighting.

They search for murderers, they search for bank robbers, they search for all sorts of really bad people.

And that sort of rank-and-file FBI work is something we should all be glad for.

But there was

a managerial elite at the top of the FBI that had become incredibly politicized.

I mean, they actually had, during the 2016 election, they had both major party

candidates under investigation.

And I think there's something wrong with that right there.

But certainly when we discovered what they did with the dossier, the Steele dossier, in which the FBI

actually

wanted to hire Christopher Steele to do his anti-Trump research for them in the last months of the 2016 campaign.

Absolutely inexcusable.

They only had to sort of cut him loose because he was breaking their policy by talking to the press because all Steele wanted to do was expose Trump and try to defeat him in 2016.

And even when the FBI had to cut him loose, they maintained a back channel to him and continued to get what we now know were these entirely false dossier reports.

And then there was this sandbagging of

Trump that I mentioned earlier, the whole we know about you and those hookers in Moscow thing.

And then there was the Michael Flynn case.

I mean, so I think there's plenty of reason to not trust the leadership of the FBI.

There's the FISA court.

Are we ever going to get a final report?

Are we ever going to see the final report on any of this?

Do you think?

Well, there is no final report on this whole thing.

Everybody has to piece together as best they can from what is out there.

We know that there really is a Durham investigation.

I know a lot of conservatives have completely lost faith or hope in that and think it's going to be nothing.

But there are some people in Washington who who you would all trust, I think, who still think that Durham is going to come up with some interesting stuff.

But everything is just a part of the picture.

You have to kind of put it together

yourself.

But

clearly, the FISA thing in which the FBI misrepresented the evidence in order to wiretap a former low-level Trump campaign aide, Carter Page,

because that would be a doorway into the larger Trump campaign.

It's not because Carter Page was the most important person in the world.

It was because that would open a door into the Trump campaign, which they were investigating during the campaign.

If you're not reading the Washington Examiner and following Byron York, you're reading, I don't know what you're reading, you should be following The Washington Examiner.

It is really, really good.

We read it every single day.

Byron is the chief political correspondent and author of the book Obsession, also another must-read, and the host of the Byron York Show.

Thank you so much, Byron.

We'll talk again.

Thank you, Glenn.

It was a pleasure.

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There was an article in the New York Times that came out yesterday reporting on a leaked interview between the Iranian foreign minister and an economist, and it was never supposed to be published.

The leaked interview comes from an Iranian resistance outlet based out of the UK called Iran International.

The credentials are legitimate.

They've been nominated twice for the International Channel of the Year by the Association for International Broadcasting.

Iran International's angle here was that the Iranian official was admitting out in the open that.

Now,

Stu, hold down.

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That's very

risky.

That's a slash or anything like that.

But their angle was that the Iranian official was admitting right out in the open that the mullahs and the Republican Guard call the shots in Iran, not the elected officials.

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Yesterday, we told you about a little nugget in a New York Times piece.

It was like third paragraph from the very end, and it was not even commented on.

And it talked about how the Iranian foreign minister let it slip that John Kerry had personally advised him that Israel had struck Iranian interest in Syria at least 200 times.

Now, the White House yesterday said we're not going to talk about leaked tapes.

Iran said this was a leaked tape.

It was never supposed to be released.

It was given to a think tank.

It was supposed to be held for posterity, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And the White House isn't commenting on this.

Really?

They're not commenting.

So the interview actually happened.

The media is not stumbling over themselves to get to the bottom of whether John Kerry leaked classified information of an ally to their number one enemy and an enemy of the United States.

Google the story.

No one is asking the question.

Now Google the story of Trump leaking classified information to the Russians in the Oval Office.

They went insane.

That story isn't even true.

But Google that story.

That's there.

They question that.

Every major news outlet in the country and the world were running the same angle, but nobody is saying anything about this.

So it's some anonymous source.

It was some anonymous source when they said this about Trump, except the National Security Advisor and the Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategy, both in the room at the time, said that never happened.

And they weren't known to be Trump lovers.

They said that never happened, but that didn't stop the media.

The job of the media is to hold the government accountable, but they are not doing it.

It doesn't,

The laws don't apply, it seems, to some underground political elite, and John Kerry is in that protected zone.

So did he or did he not leak information

about the Israelis to the Iranians?

Well, he said yesterday that these allegations are unequivocally false.

This never happened, either when I was Secretary of State or since.

But then the State Department released information saying the information that Kerry allegedly leaked was already public knowledge and not classified.

John Kerry said it never happened.

The State Department said it happened, but it was no big deal.

Which is it?

The guy sits on the National Security Council.

Which is it?

The comment on this and so much more is Donald Trump Jr.

Hey, Don, how are you?

I'm doing well, yourself.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I thank you and your family often.

Say hi to your dad for us.

How's he doing?

He's doing well.

I just saw him a few minutes ago, so he's doing really well.

And, you know,

I think you're saying it really well.

I mean, it's sort of amazing what you can get away with if you're a Democrat.

You know, I wrote the book about liberal privilege, but we're seeing it more and more every day.

Whether it's John Kerry, whether it's Eric Swalwell sitting on the House Intelligence Committee, whilst I guess it's okay for him to sleep with a Chinese spy,

it seems like a a double standard.

I would think, Glenn, that these people would lose their minds if someone in the Trump administration did this.

Oh, they would have, and they rightfully should have.

If your dad, I mean, this is what's crazy.

If your dad were giving secrets to the Russians, he should have been impeached.

It would have been a big deal.

But he wasn't.

And they knew it the whole time, and they ran with it just to destroy your father, his legacy, and his chances of winning a second time.

But now we actually have evidence that somebody is doing this and they don't care.

Wait.

100%.

And it's not like it's a random occurrence.

I mean, it's pretty clear that John Kerry has very close relationships with those in Iran in power.

So this isn't like it's something that's surprising and out of the blue.

I mean, these things are pretty well known.

You know, I'm pretty sure they would have talked about the various violations, whether it hatch act or otherwise, of all of the things that he's been doing had he been a Republican.

But because he's not, he's totally immune from any prosecution or criticism even from a media who just refuses to do their stated job of their profession.

You know, it's one thing to attack you guys personally.

And I honestly, Don, don't know how you guys live through it.

I really don't.

I have so much respect for your family, for your father, for Milani, all of you guys, for what you put up with.

And I mean, I would have just, I would have been on the roof of a building like a postal worker at some point.

I mean, I don't know how you did it and still continue to do it.

But, you know, the one thing, it's one thing coming after you.

It's another to actually make real accomplishments in the Middle East.

Things that people have been trying to do since the 1940s.

You did them.

Nobody recognized them at the time.

And now in less than 100 days, everything's coming undone.

Well, that's what's really scary.

I mean, they're literally reverting.

You You know, peace in the Middle East was sort of like the holy grail of geopolitical politics.

And we actually did it.

My father's administration actually did it.

Now you have business opportunities, you know, flights between Israel and other parts of the Middle East.

They all probably wanted to open up that door, but there was

a long history that made it a little bit hard.

Now, Donald Trump opened that door, and within a few weeks, not only is John Kerry seemingly fueling the Iranians, the world's number one leading state sponsor of terror, but doing it at the expense of our number one ally in the region, Israel.

You know, we're bombing the Middle East again after sort of trying to end the endless wars.

All of these things that are so popular with the American public,

not so much with the Washington DC establishment and sort of the military-industrial complex, to sort of use the old-fashioned term there, but they're reversing one of the most successful foreign policy policy missions ever, and they've done so in 100 days.

It's truly impressive.

I grossly underestimated Joe Biden's ability to screw things up.

I knew it would be bad.

I didn't realize it would be this bad.

I didn't know it would be this fast.

I figured it would be bad, but not this fast.

I mean, look what happened on the border.

And, you know, now nobody cares about the cages.

You know, nobody cares about the policies.

He's reversing himself in some cases where he's going back and doing doing exactly what your father did.

But it's a mess down there.

It's an absolute mess.

In days, he created that.

Correct.

And

they're running around saying, oh, how did this happen?

I mean, when you give someone, you offer someone everything for free, you're going to give free health care, free education.

This was a welcome ticket.

You know, they get to give Kamala Harris's book to children at the border.

Imagine someone in the Trump administration did that.

You know, the indoctrination

of youth continues.

It's not just in our public schools anymore.

It's now at the border in Joe Biden's cages.

This stuff never ends.

And yet, again, if it was a Trump administration official, people would be losing their minds.

It would drive a multiple week long news cycle.

When Joe Biden does it, he gets a total pass.

And they don't even discuss these things.

I mean, they're no longer cages.

They were only cages for the four years between the Obama administration and the Biden administration, before and after that four-year period of time, their migrant facilities where they're helping children.

I mean, it's absolutely insane.

And, you know, what's scary, Glenn, is it feels like the American public, while there are some, and probably many of your listeners, get it, so many are still influenced by a mainstream media that has shown to be nothing but partisan hacks.

I mean, they're literally, there's nothing genuine, honest, or real about today's mainstream media, and yet many Americans still don't see that.

So tomorrow,

Joe Biden is going to get up, and I don't know how they're going to keep him awake until 9 o'clock at night, but he's going to get up and he's going to speak.

Usually, this is when a president will say, you know, he'll spell out big ideas and ask for money.

In a hundred days, he has already put in legislation over $10 trillion

in spending.

I don't know how much more you can ask for, but you know, and not that they asked us for it.

I mean, they should just do this speech at the Fed.

Hey, print some more money.

I want to do these things.

What do we expect to see tomorrow?

What do you think we're going to see tomorrow?

Well, listen, I think you're going to see a bunch of Democrat sound bites that have no basis in economics.

You know,

I'm not a master of these things in terms of macroeconomic policy

and monetary policy.

But what's going on is crazy.

Like you got to realize, like this money has to be paid back.

And I get it's great to be able to bribe the people with their own money, even though they're only getting a small fraction of the stimulus money, right?

You say, you sign a multiple trillion dollar bill.

Here's a couple of grand.

No worries.

You know, they don't explain to the people that, guess what?

Each family owns approximately 6,000.

So you get 2,000, but you owe 6,000 now.

Eventually, you got to pay the piper, Glenn.

And so this is not sustainable.

It doesn't work.

We are putting our children and our grandchildren in debts that they will never be able to get out of.

And, you know, they're doing it.

Okay.

No one's saying anything because it's Joe Biden.

Hell, he's trying to be really nice.

He's not.

He's really nice in sound bites and on TV.

And yet, if you look at the policies that he's pushing, there's nothing more than partisanry and there's nothing more than vindictiveness within them.

You know, again, he gets to have that pass because the profession known as the media simply no longer exists the the way it was supposed to.

Do you believe?

I mean, you have to sit around and talk about this.

Your dad built an economy that was actual, it was real.

It was starting to work for the people down at the bottom of the end or the bottom of the ladder.

And that's when it's real.

This is going to be a sugar rush.

And I think we're going to have a, I mean, you just can't open an economy and not have a boom.

Of course, we're going to have a boom.

But it's also with all of this bogus money, it is, I mean, it's going to be unlike anything we've ever seen.

Maybe 1929, up and down.

100%.

And then you combine that with

wanting to raise tax rates on corporate America, who employs so many people.

You do that by wanting to seemingly more than double the capital gains tax for people who are investing in those companies so they can hire.

You're creating a disaster of epic proportions.

What that will do to the economy is truly, it's it's scary.

And I mean, this isn't just like, okay, well, we believe in a little bit higher taxes.

These are draconian taxes that they want to put on Americans, whether it's corporate or civilian, at a time when they're literally coming out of a global pandemic.

You know, I understand the Democrats' notion of, you know, you can tax everyone.

You know, Margaret Thatcher said it best when you said the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.

But to do so at a time like this, when the economy and small business, you know, they've been teetering on the brink for a while.

This will be like the death knell to so many of those businesses if they do that.

When people pull their money out of the markets, when they're worried about these sort of things, it's going to be a disaster.

And the fact that no one's saying that,

again, I don't care how you feel about these things in normal times, but if you're going to put that kind of

hammer down at literally the end of a pandemic,

I don't know what these people expect.

I really don't.

I mean, you wake up and you wonder if you're watching The Onion when you're seeing the news on a daily basis because it's like a caricature of itself.

We're talking to Donald Trump Jr.

Don, I don't know if you guys are paying attention to the great reset

and what is coming with these ESGs, but it explains the corporations.

It explains why so many countries around the world

did some black ops work against your dad, et cetera, et cetera.

I think that he was,

he was, this would never happen under your father.

And I think they knew that, and this is one of the reasons why he is out.

But I urge you, if you haven't yet, to look into the great reset from the

World Economic Forum and ESGs that's just been pushed through in the European Parliament.

Of course.

I'm not as familiar with it as I probably should be, but the reality is this.

When all of these foreign governments are going against an individual like my father there's a reason for that and it's not because he was good for their economies he was good for ours america has been like the moronic like red-headed stepchild of the world for so long paying for all of their things subsidizing the u.n to ridiculous numbers subsidizing everyone whether it's nato or otherwise donald trump just said hey we expect everyone to carry their fair share of course they hated donald trump they had the gravy train of a lifetime america is just going to be a dumb idiot and pay for all of our stuff.

They're going to subsidize it.

They're going to be able, you know, China, free trade.

Oh, yeah, they really want free trade.

They don't want free trade.

They want America to be a fool.

They want one-sided free trade where they get to do whatever they want.

And if America does anything, they raise holy hell.

That's what's going on for so long.

So I don't want foreign governments to love our president because it means you're a schmuck.

If these people love you so much, it means you're being a schmuck, in my opinion, especially as it relates to monetary policy and these sorts of things.

And so Joe Biden's reverting that because he doesn't know what's going on.

He'll sign whatever the radical left puts in front of him.

You know, in between naps, he'll do a couple of those things.

They'll put him on a teleprompter.

He'll even botch that every time.

But no one cares because no one in the media is going to call it out.

That's why it's so important for guys like yourself.

And it's why I've remained so vocal.

I mean, I could very easily go back to, you know, making money and being in real estate and doing those kind of things, but there's too much at stake, lynn i got five kids i want to leave them a country they recognize i know uh don it's great to have you on always is we'd love to have you on more often donald trump jr uh more in just a second we've got to take a quick network break i'll tell you about realestate agents i trust.com this is my company and so i'll just tell you plainly this is a free service to you this is a service where we have these really good people that have been in real estate for a long time.

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Hello, America, and welcome to the Glen Beck Program.

COVID virus, we have an update on how the states are doing.

Huh.

Wow.

I guess it didn't pan out for everybody on

the Texas and

Florida going to get us all killed for some reason that's not working out.

But the Biden administration deeply cares, and that's why they have a conference call with all 50 governors.

And,

well, I mean,

the vice president and president have missed almost every single one.

And the 50 governors are like, hey,

can we get the people who are actually in charge of this, you know, on the White House conference call?

Could we maybe get them so we can ask them some questions?

No.

No.

You don't have any questions of legitimacy to ask.

I mean, what are you going to ask them?

Your

is so puny, I don't know if you'd be able to comprehend their really, really brilliant answers.

Uh-huh.

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So may I suggest that you call Goldline

and ask them about physical gold or silver.

Stu, when we first started talking about the dollar is going to collapse, and, you know, for years, I mean, it seemed insane to everybody, but for years, you were like, oh, dear God, shut up.

Shut up about this.

Yeah.

And it seemed like there was no way the dollar could collapse.

Is there a way that you can see where the dollar doesn't collapse now?

It's scary.

It's a serious question.

I mean, how, I mean, how does anyone think that this is going to last?

Again, like the dollar might be around, but it's going to be worth a lot less.

That's pretty much a certainty.

Nah.

Nah.

Not a certainty.

it's all gonna be

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There's not enough gold.

For all the paper that is being issued, there's not enough gold in the world to cover that.

If this really does happen, what do you think is going to happen?

Oh, yeah, you'll get your gold.

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Stu asked me a few minutes ago, you know, if you could take anything with you, what was the good thing that you would take with you from COVID?

And I'm going to get into that because he's got an old list.

We'll get into that here in a second.

But I want to use air quotes when I use the word positive because I'm using that positive very,

very loosely here.

But the one thing I wish we could take along with us is this:

we, for the first time,

at least in my lifetime, got to see and experience the reality of what so-called authorities really know

and what they really believe.

And we saw firsthand they don't believe in you and they don't know Jack Squat.

They're doing a job and they're doing the best that they can.

You know, not all of them are bad people.

I think that's a bad thing that we have started to label people.

Anybody who's part of this, we just assume that everybody is somehow part of an evil you know group or they're just they're doing it intentionally they're not a lot of people uh just don't have any idea what they're doing and they're doing the the best that they can and they're not part of a global conspiracy and i and i do

i mean it's not lost on me that i'm saying it's not part of a global conspiracy anyway um let's just assume for a minute that everyone involved from fauci to trump to dr burks all of it all of it People doing the gain of function research on bat coronaviruses.

Let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they're not part of a Soros Gates globalist conspiracy that used COVID-19 to usher in the great reset and control our lives.

Okay, it might be true, but

let's just pretend it's not for a second.

You can leave all those accusations aside because you don't need them.

What we need to really recognize and take with us from this

is that the so-called authorities have no idea what they're doing.

That's the biggest argument against conspiracy theories.

Like, you think they could pull this off?

They don't know their ass from their elbow.

What are you talking about?

The people we have put in place

exactly for and precisely to manage global human diseases and public health issues were were wrong.

Then wrong again, then wrong again a dozen more times.

They built and used models at the very beginning that were wrong, dramatically overestimating the case fatality rate for COVID-19.

That led to unnecessary lockdowns.

I'm not saying anybody did this.

They were doing their best, but we just didn't know.

Then they urged no mask wearing, then they urged mask wearing, then they urged two or three masks.

Now I think we're back to no.

I don't know where we are on that.

The social distancing guidelines of six feet or three feet for kids, that's entirely made up.

That's entirely made up.

Study after study has shown that for the U.S., state by state, and globally, nation by nation, there's no statistical difference in how the virus spread and what the fatality rate

was across any given populace.

Lockdowns and mask mandates did not impact the spread of the the virus.

Otherwise, we would have different results now in Texas and Florida, wouldn't we?

Now, that just doesn't mean that anyone was bad.

It doesn't mean that Fauci or Bricks or anybody are bad people.

They're doing the best that they could if we give them the benefit of the doubt with the information they had.

And given

the context of politics and the bureaucracy in DC and the media,

the mistakes that were made resulted in in real negative outcomes, including decimating the U.S.

economy and violating so many rights.

That's why 60% of Americans are skeptical of the government, their official COVID-19 numbers.

About 25% of likely U.S.

voters have indicated they don't plan on getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

Why?

Because we don't really feel like we've had anything that was true.

We see other things that are bad like this, but this isn't the bubonic plague.

And because we have so overreacted for such a long time, it was fine to overreact for the first month, two months.

But once we hit summer, we were all kind of looking at it going, okay, I think we know what we have here, and it's not as bad as everybody said.

And everybody has made,

you know, Fauci into this golden calf that we're supposed to just, you know, worship.

now if the government doesn't have anything

going for it on COVID-19 I mean if they screwed it up this badly on COVID-19 all of the all of the so-called experts it got so much so wrong

is there a possibility that they don't have it right other places

take for example 94% of professional Wall Street stockbrokers are bullish looking at U.S.

stocks over the next 12 months.

And not to be outdone, but retail investors, mom and pop investors like you and me are equally committed with 9.8

long bets for every one short bet.

That's 98%

of the people think, this is going to be great.

It's going to be a boom.

Usually when everyone's in the boat,

It's bad, especially when the stragglers like you and me, we start to glom on.

So wait a minute, wait a minute, minute, wait a minute.

We just experienced the highest-ranked and most powerful government officials.

We experienced that they got almost everything wrong with COVID-19, wrong diagnosis of how deadly it was, wrong treatment in face masks lockdown, wrong policies on medical treatments, not protecting our older population with true quarantines for those most vulnerable.

But when it comes to the economy and stocks and

money printing,

We don't really talk about Janet Yellen, Jerome Powell, Joe Biden.

Do they have the slightest idea of what they're doing when they are telling us they're doing things that have never been done before?

See, I just think that's a problem

because you're dealing with the money that we all have in our savings account.

Anything that you saved could be gone because they're trying something we've never done before.

Now, COVID was 19.

COVID-19 was something we had never seen in our lifetimes.

And look at what the government did.

I got news for you.

No one has ever seen what's coming in our global financial system either.

64, listen to these numbers.

64% of all of the new currency created across the entire world

in the past 12 months has been U.S.

dollars.

64%.

The previous one-year high was 14% of all currency was US dollars.

64%.

Retail investors made 27% of all U.S.

stock trades in Q1.

10 years ago, retail investors accounted for only 5% of total stock trades.

So that means if it crashes, you're involved.

The Fed has printed currency to buy $2.5 trillion in new government bonds, plus nearly a trillion in corporate bonds and ETFs.

Prior to the year 2020, the Federal Reserve had never bought any of those things.

They had never purchased any of those things ever

at all.

So we have no idea what's going on with the stock market.

Every indication shows U.S.

stocks are historically overvalued compared to earnings and corporate revenues.

There is no precedent ever for the Fed printing more than 25% worth of GDP in new currency and using it to prop up the government and the entire financial sector.

Now, much like the lockdowns and the masks and the closed schools, this is just a live experiment that we're just doing and you're the guinea pig.

Effective zero-rate interest for new debt, trillions in new currency digitally printed and used to buy bonds, stocks, keeping companies that Uncle Sam wants to keep afloat and keeping Uncle Sam afloat.

Stocks blown up to the largest asset bubble in human history.

But don't worry, the authorities have this.

They have it.

You know, Fauci may be taking his punches now, but I expect a couple of years from now, it's going to be Powell and Yellen.

Yeah.

Assuming that they have the best intentions, we shouldn't assume they know what they're doing or that they actually have a plan that you or I would agree with.

See, the phenomenon that I want to take

from COVID is the potent directors fallacy.

And I'd like to take that because we have

recognized it as a fallacy that our directors know exactly what to do.

And this comes from a time of economic expansion or we win wars and whatever and people are like, see, they know what they're doing.

But once there's trouble, we really see they don't know.

It's, I like to call it the Wizard of Oz effect.

Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

Powell, Yellen,

Fauci,

Biden, they're all behind the curtain.

And they're just pulling levers and knobs.

They have absolutely no idea what the hell they're doing.

And they hope that it works out

until Dorothy arrives.

Because at the end of the day, we're all going to find out they're nothing but traveling salesmen.

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So if you could take anything from the COVID experience,

I would take what we've learned, how fast we can turn into a dictatorship, and that our authorities really don't know jack squat, they're bluffing.

But I'd also maybe take working from home.

I do like that.

Keeps me closer to my family, but most Americans can't do that.

You know, now you're working at the 7-Eleven or

you're working construction or whatever you're doing.

You're not doing it from home.

You know what?

I'm going to build that shed at my house.

I don't think that'll work.

I don't think that'll work.

Stu, you had a list earlier this week of the things that you would keep from COVID.

Yeah, tell me if you disagree with any of these.

No traffic.

Yes.

I would keep that.

Social distancing.

Now, look, I understand people like to gather.

I don't mean that.

I just mean I want you to stand six feet away from me at least.

I don't have nothing to do with COVID.

I just don't want the Seinfeld close talker thing coming back.

We got rid of it.

Let's keep it going.

How did you ever work with me?

How would you work with me?

Because I'm like a hugger.

I mean...

Yeah,

I don't.

I mean, you are sometimes a, I don't, I mean, look, hugger is a different thing than talking, you know, six inches away from somebody's face.

There's no reason.

Okay.

I sit across a table from you and do a radio show, and we're five or six feet away every day.

Like, that's fine.

We can hear each other.

It's easy.

Hand washing.

Keep washing your hands, boys and girls.

That bothers me that we have to tell people that.

You know, it is really weird, but like,

it's just something we should just kind of keep around.

Streaming new movies at home.

I'm in.

I want to keep that.

Now, I want the theaters to stay around too.

I know I want the best of both worlds here.

So

I went to see Godzilla with my son this weekend.

We saw it already on, I know, we saw it already on TV the day it came out, and it was good, but it was nothing like seeing it on the big screen.

First of all, it was not good.

It is a,

I can't even finish it.

It's so bad.

I mean, and I like

it.

I loved Godzilla.

The one with Brian Cranston in it, the first one, I thought it was great.

The last one was terrible, though, too.

How about

they're not great?

They're not great.

No, they're not great.

I mean,

it's a Godzilla movie.

So as far as Godzilla movies go, it's fantastic.

No, it's not fantastic.

Mr.

CGI opposition to CGI.

It looks like a cartoon.

It's not even...

The CGI is so overpowering ridiculous.

This is not one of the things I want to keep from COVID.

Godzilla movies.

I don't think it's coming back.

How about drive-in theaters?

They made a bit of a comeback.

I thought that was cool.

During COVID.

I never went.

Okay.

How about now?

This one's going to be controversial, but let me just say it.

Masks,

but only for Lena Dunham.

We just keep her just for her.

Okay.

Alcohol delivery.

Positive of COVID.

Now, again,

because of COVID?

Yeah, they wouldn't.

I mean, alcohol should always be delivered to anyone's home day or night.

Especially from restaurants.

Now, they have services that will do it, but at least in Texas, they changed the laws around this because they're like, oh, people don't need to go to church, but they've got to have, they've got to have a Moscow mule delivered to their home.

That's got to happen.

It's true.

It is true.

God works, but it's a long time.

It's a long time.

You got to really work for it and everything else.

Alcohol works the minute you get it.

It's true.

Now, Glenn, this one you will appreciate, I think.

Self-quarantining.

The ultimate excuse to get out of a social event.

I can't.

I'm self-quarantined right now.

Unfortunately, I just can't make it.

That's a solid.

Damn it.

I wish I could.

Working from home.

How do you feel about working from home?

You're working from home today.

I love it.

That's a big thing.

Telemedicine, not having to go to the doctors.

Now, that was around before, but is much more prominent now.

I think it's a good one.

Empty middle seats on planes.

I want to keep that.

Yeah, I love it.

Good one.

How about no more April Fool's Day?

They basically canceled it in April 2020, and then they, like all the companies got to do their dumb little jokes that no one laughs at, but they do anyway.

I'm fine getting rid of it forever.

Yeah, okay,

I'm good with that.

I don't see that as one of the real benefits of COVID.

Of COVID, I'm saying things I want to keep around, like no more birthday candle blowing out and then eating the cake right afterward.

That's a weird thing.

Think about it for a second.

It's weird.

No, I don't have to.

I think about it every time somebody blows the candles out.

This is the Glenback program.

Have one hamburger a month.

I'm not making this up.

Did you see Simon and Schuster has decided to change some of their cookbooks?

They're going to go in and they're going to

make cookbooks with a lot less meat because people shouldn't have meat now because of the environment.

I believe this is either the apocalypse or another civil war.

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You know, you'll hear a lot of experts talk about the virus, talk about the shots that everybody's supposed to get when it comes to COVID.

But

the guy we have with us now, you probably know, Dr.

Harvey Riesch, he's an epidemiology professor at the Yale School of Public Health.

So this is his specialty.

Now, he's the guy who I guess we first heard of during this pandemic because he said hydroxychloroquine works.

It's easy.

We have it.

It works.

It will help, you know, get rid of a lot of this stuff.

I know that I took hydroxychloroquine when my family had COVID, everything else.

I never got it.

I stopped taking it.

Six months later, I've got COVID.

I think hydroxychloroquine was a miracle

and at least something that would slow things down for a lot of people.

But who am I to say?

Dr.

Harvey Riesch is here with us now.

Hi, doctor.

How are you?

Good morning.

How are you?

Good.

Thank you so much for speaking out, whether you're right or wrong, speaking out about the things that you believe in

and not bowing to the pressure of this new weird science rule that we just don't question authority.

Let me talk to you about

the vaccines.

I get so much heat because I've had COVID.

I'm not interested in getting the vaccine.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

I don't have a problem with the vaccine.

But I know my kids are young.

I'm not going to give it to them.

And because I don't think it's...

I think there's too many questions out there about something that is brand new that we've not had trials on.

If they needed it, my parents, I would give it to my parents.

I encouraged my parents to take it.

If I were a little older and more frail, I would take it.

I'm called insane for having those standards.

Am I?

No, you're completely rational.

And when people are calling you names instead of debating the science, you know, the tables have flipped.

The science, you know, the real science, the evidence is what matters.

And we know a couple days ago, proof of exactly your understanding

has been written in an article from Israel where they actually looked at some 7 million people and their experience from taking the vaccines or having had COVID or being unvaccinated and not knowingly have had COVID.

And what they found is that there was equal protection from getting COVID either a second time or after vaccination

from people who have been vaccinated

the same as people who've had COVID in the past.

And

this means that their protection from COVID is just as good.

It's 90% or higher than the same as the vaccines from getting COVID.

So then why is everybody pounding on?

Nobody seems to be paying attention to what we have going on in Israel.

We have a population that

has vaccinated, they have herd

immunity now,

and we're seeing different kinds of results.

We have the facts.

Why isn't anybody talking about this?

Well, because I think there's different motivations than just vaccinating people for their health benefit.

I think we are in a mania.

There's no other way to put it, that people are convinced as a matter of their religious assumptions that vaccination is their creed and

it's a mania that there's no discussion.

There's no pros and cons.

That the cons don't matter no matter what.

I think that what's more interesting than Israel even is United Arab Emirates, who've also vaccinated sixty percent of their population with essentially the same vaccine, the Pfizer vaccine.

And I think their experience is more realistic that

what one sees is the mortality come down quickly, but the case numbers not.

The case numbers

came down, but much more slowly.

And that is what's to be expected from vaccination.

And that's why, even though we've been vaccinating a lot in the U.S., that there's still cases occurring, and we do have herd immunity in many states in the U.S., but it will be slow, and that doesn't matter.

And as I've been saying for the whole year, it's not the cases that matter, it's the people who are hospitalized and the people who die from the disease that matter.

And people are just freaking out.

Because that's what separates

this from the flu is how bad it gets for so many people and how many people would die from it compared to the flu.

But if you get it and you're sick and you're home and you stay home for a couple of weeks and you don't have to go to the hospital and you don't die from it, then it's just the flu.

Well, a couple of weeks would be enough to, you know, to put a big dent on people's economic viability and so on.

It should be a couple days.

And, you know, now we've got half a dozen or more medications to be used to treat this for outpatients when they're treated in the first few days.

And they all work.

They all combine.

They're very effective.

We know they're effective for the Brazil variant.

The Brazilians have been using them and have found them effective.

So we know how to manage this, and we've known how to manage it for a long time.

But, of course, can you think of any other drugs, any other approved medications that have been blocked or prohibited by medical societies, you know, medical regulatory agencies?

No.

That's especially like if you're talking hydroxychloroquine, especially.

That's been out forever.

Forever.

We know exactly what it is.

So the fact that there's interference in a drug that is safer than aspirin,

that has been used for 55 years in tens of billions of doses, the fact that there's pushback and formal government and medical interference in that, there's no explanation other than a nefarious reason.

There's no health explanation.

So I could dismiss a lot of the things that were happening at the very beginning as, you know, we didn't know what we were dealing with.

Do we know what we're dealing with with now?

Pretty much.

Okay.

Does it ever become

something that we're, you know, because I said at the very beginning, you know,

that this is probably going to be something that we have to deal with for the rest of our lives, like the flu, but if it is, even has the same rate of death of the flu, that's doubling that, and that's a big number.

So it's not something you want to do, but it's going to be with us forever, and it's going to be like the flu.

Does it look like we're headed in that direction?

Is that what we're ⁇ are we going to deal with this for the rest of our lives?

I think that there's two things.

First of all, this is ⁇

when children are affected, it's a cold.

For almost every, you know, one in 10,000, it may be more serious.

But by and large, for almost all young children,

this is nothing worse than a cold.

If they spread it to each other,

it's unusual.

Mostly, they get it from adults.

And they develop T cell immunity and they're protected.

We've only known about it for 15 months or something, so it's hard to know how long anything lasts, but the evidence is that that T cell immunity will be long last.

We know that T cell immunity from SARS-1 is now 17 years old and people who had SARS-1

still have T cell immunity from that.

So

it's likely that children will get it.

It'll be a cold-like illness and most won't even know it and it'll go away and that'll be the end of it for them as they get older in life.

It's we adults who have to deal with it now when it gets entered into the population as an endemic disease, which it is.

So we have a transition period to get through it that children, especially young children, will not have.

And I think the long-term characteristic of this will be over the next twenty to thirty years when each new generation of children hardly notices that anything's happening, whereas the adults

have to deal with it one way or another, and whether it's vaccination, whether it's getting the disease, whether it's prevention, whether it's treatment, all of those are possible ways of dealing with it for the adults.

Is there any reason that you can see that Texas and Florida and places that didn't lock down are doing better

than the places like California and New York?

Why is that happening?

That's because lockdown is counterproductive.

At the beginning, the very beginning of this, when we had no idea what was going on, lockdown was useful in order to give us by time to figure out how to manage it, how to keep the hospitals from overflowing right at the beginning.

But after that point, once the disease is endemic, there's no point because all you're doing is prolonging the inevitable.

The disease is endemic.

It is in the population.

It will grow to the degree that there is no herd immunity.

So the states like North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Arizona, Tennessee,

you know, that that didn't lock down or didn't really lock down,

that have let the infection go and occur in young people who are mostly unaffected, or if they get it, it's a mild disease and they recover pretty much perfectly well, if not in a couple of weeks, then a month or two, then

what you get is you build up a lot of herd immunity.

And so we had herd immunity in North Dakota in October and in South Dakota in October, November and so on.

And so those peaks have come down dramatically.

Same as Texas and Florida.

The amount of herd immunity that's built up is quite large.

And once that happens,

herd immunity is not a function of vaccines.

Vaccines contribute to it, but so does natural infection.

And most people are asymptomatic.

So they built up the herd immunity, whereas California didn't.

So is the idea that once you get the vaccine or once you've had it, that you still have to be quarantined or you can't go out for 4th of July or you have to wear masks,

that's bullcrap, isn't it?

Well, so this is a subtle thing that I don't think was well recognized, and that is that just like masks, there's a benefit for the person and there's a benefit for the bystanders, the people around the person.

And that's called source control.

And what we've heard that the manufacturers' randomized trials for safety and efficacy only examined benefit for the people who were vaccinated.

And that benefit is between 60 and 90 percent and generally tending towards the 90 percent for most in the vaccination trials.

But what they didn't evaluate is how much

vaccinated people

do or don't transmit the infection to others.

And this is why I was saying the United Arab Emirates, their data shows that in fact transmission is not

benefited quite nearly as well as

vaccination for the person.

So the vaccines cut the individual's risk by 90% of getting COVID, but they only cut the risk of transmission by 50 to 60%.

And that's why the case numbers go on for a long time, even though the mortality goes down.

And I think that's really, we've been sold the idea that if these vaccines prevent the disease by 90%, then why can't we just go out and have normal life?

And the answer is because they don't prevent transmission nearly as much

and so it will still spread.

Now,

spreading is, as I said, is not necessarily bad.

If the people who are at high risk, who will do poorly if they get it, are adequately protected either by vaccination or early treatment or prevention with hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, other medications.

If they're adequately

protected, then the society reopens like normal.

Our schools should be open.

Day camps should be open

because we that is how you get herd immunity in safe, natural, protected ways.

And

you protect high-risk people by keeping them

basically separated to c a certain degree as well as having vaccination and prevention and treatment.

And I think that that's the whole way that we work out of this.

Doctor, it is a

pleasure to talk to you.

Thank you so much for the work that you do.

And

keep your spine.

You are an inspiration to a lot of people

that you are willing to take the hits

from

your own

circles.

Thank you for that.

Dr.

Harvey Greesch.

Great.

Nature speaks to us through science, and I don't consider that nature lies to me.

Nature tells the truth.

I just have to be open to listening to it, and I'm just the messenger here.

Good for you.

Dr.

Harvey Reese, epidemiology professor at the Yale School of Public Health.

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So President Biden is going to give his first joint session of Congress speech tomorrow night, usually the State of the Union, and they go on and on and on and on.

I think you're going to see something miraculous, something that you're actually going to say, I'm glad Joe Biden was elected.

Okay, you're going to see one thing tomorrow, one, and it's this.

His speech writers know it's nine o'clock at night.

There's no way he can go on for more than 20 minutes.

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There's no way this goes on for 90 minutes.

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