Best of The Program | 3/17/21

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Speaker 38 All right, some statistics that may or may not surprise you,

Speaker 39 but

Speaker 38 still has a list of the states that are doing the best right now with COVID and also states that are doing the worst.

Speaker 19 And I would say this is a look at the entire year, right?

Speaker 24 So it's not just where they are right now right now.

Speaker 25 How do they do over the past year?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And so we went through, did a formula.

Speaker 12 Let me give you some of the factors that went into this.

Speaker 36 One, obviously, how well did you avoid people dying in your state?

Speaker 31 You know what I mean? Like

Speaker 10 that's obviously a big factor.

Speaker 42 But number two, I mean, this, because we, all we hear from the, you know, the news media is trying to compare death totals and everything else.

Speaker 27 We also looked at the economy.

Speaker 8 How well were you able to protect the economy through this?

Speaker 21 It was a really difficult thing for states to do.

Speaker 14 Some states did a lot better than others.

Speaker 39 We also looked at what is from, there's an

Speaker 36 University of Oxford stringency index, which is basically a measure of how hard the government cracked down. How long did they put the people into relative shutdown levels, right?

Speaker 16 Did they have a light touch? Did they have a heavy touch when it comes to that?

Speaker 48 And I think that's somewhat controversial in that people would say, well, what does that matter?

Speaker 14 I think if you have two states that had the same results with the economy and deaths, but one gave you complete freedom, the other one

Speaker 44 locked you down in individual plastic bubbles.

Speaker 38 That matters. Yeah, that matters, right?

Speaker 22 I mean, this is the United States of America here.

Speaker 13 So I use that as a factor.

Speaker 51 Those are the three biggest factors.

Speaker 53 However, there's also, you know,

Speaker 13 we factored in the age of the population.

Speaker 54 So a state that has an older population should get a break in comparing the death rate, you know, to a state that has a younger population.

Speaker 24 Same thing with a density.

Speaker 8 If you have a state with a population density that's high, we looked at vaccine rollout, all sorts of different things, and kind of came up with a final score 0 to 100 for all 50 states.

Speaker 13 So let me give you some of the bottom states.

Speaker 13 I'll start seventh from the bottom for a reason because it was California.

Speaker 3 Score of 35.7 out of 100.

Speaker 27 They did, they actually didn't do terribly as far as the rate of COVID, but as we point out, they have a relatively young population

Speaker 60 in California.

Speaker 6 So that does make a difference as far as the death rate.

Speaker 9 But we factored that in. They finished seventh from the bottom.

Speaker 61 Sixth from the bottom was Massachusetts, 28.1 out of 100.

Speaker 10 Fifth from the bottom,

Speaker 30 Connecticut, our old home state, Pat.

Speaker 39 Now, again,

Speaker 8 can you blame some of its neighbors for this? I think you could.

Speaker 40 Yes,

Speaker 27 Connecticut also didn't do all that well.

Speaker 9 Rhode Island is fourth from the bottom.

Speaker 64 25.2 is the score out of 100.

Speaker 65 Third from the bottom, Red State, Louisiana,

Speaker 24 20.6 out of 100.

Speaker 27 Now, you can probably fairly note that part of the reason Louisiana had a really bad outbreak of COVID was

Speaker 27 Mardi Gras, which happened at the end of February last year, and of course was held in a very blue area of Louisiana, not a very red area of Louisiana.

Speaker 26 But, you know, as long as you have New Orleans in your state, you're responsible for it, Louisiana.

Speaker 64 I apologize for that.

Speaker 6 But, you know, I didn't put it in your state.

Speaker 12 That was your thing.

Speaker 65 So you're responsible for

Speaker 29 the outbreak in New Orleans.

Speaker 35 So they came at third to worst, 20.6 out of 100.

Speaker 49 Then there's quite a drop-off.

Speaker 25 From third to worst, at 20.6

Speaker 13 to second to worst,

Speaker 4 New Mexico, 7.9 out of 100.

Speaker 65 Wow. So from 20.6 to 7.9.

Speaker 9 People don't realize that New Mexico had the hardest lockdown in the nation, harder than any other state, California, New York, nobody.

Speaker 54 Lockdown, harder than New Mexico.

Speaker 39 I know that.

Speaker 10 Their economy was a disaster as well.

Speaker 6 And they didn't even get good results as far as COVID.

Speaker 33 I mean, really, they didn't do anything well throughout this entire process.

Speaker 65 So New Mexico finishes second to last and in dead last place,

Speaker 10 without anyone's surprise, of course, is New York with a score of 6.8 out of 100. They had the second strongest lockdown in the country.

Speaker 27 Despite that, had the second worst COVID numbers, only to New Jersey, which is completely New York's fault anyway.

Speaker 13 And also their economy was a disaster.

Speaker 29 Despite the fact they have a giant industry there that could work from home, they still couldn't protect the economy at all.

Speaker 43 So they finish in dead last place.

Speaker 27 Of course, AndrewCuomoisAwful.com should be noted at this time.

Speaker 21 Shall we give you some of the

Speaker 10 top picks?

Speaker 38 Yeah, who did the best?

Speaker 39 Let's see. All right.
Well, who did the best?

Speaker 36 And we're starting at...

Speaker 47 Let me give you 10.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 3 Alaska, number 10, score 66.7.

Speaker 24 And again, we take into account population density.

Speaker 18 But again,

Speaker 22 there's some asterisks in this, like Hawaii.

Speaker 67 What do you do with it?

Speaker 45 You know, Hawaii obviously is going to have a really good result on COVID because they're an island, but also a really bad result on the economy because they're dependent on flights.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So it's a tough one to measure.

Speaker 10 But Alaska came in 10th, South Dakota in ninth.

Speaker 48 And I think a lot of people would think South Dakota would do really well on this.

Speaker 24 They were number two on the stringency index.

Speaker 4 So it's the second least amount of time in lockdown.

Speaker 46 But they really, they're 44th as as far as COVID per million.

Speaker 40 So they that hurt them.

Speaker 9 Like they they had a very open

Speaker 21 attitude towards this, which I respect and I like Chris Denome quite a bit.

Speaker 20 But

Speaker 20 look, they just had a really

Speaker 55 rough battle with that when it comes to their rates.

Speaker 10 Eighth place, Nebraska, 67.8 out of 100.

Speaker 48 Then Virginia actually did pretty well.

Speaker 3 In seventh place, 68.9.

Speaker 24 Iowa in sixth place, 69.9 out of 100.

Speaker 29 Iowa, another one that never,

Speaker 31 they had that initial shutdown period and then were pretty open after that and had

Speaker 24 relatively good results, certainly good economic results.

Speaker 48 Number six,

Speaker 63 number five, Oregon.

Speaker 38 That's a surprise.

Speaker 65 That one is a surprise to me.

Speaker 10 And I, so I was thinking about this because the score is 70.1 out of 100 for Oregon.

Speaker 6 Again, best COVID results by state for the entire year.

Speaker 47 They had very low rates of COVID, but they'd locked down.

Speaker 13 I mean, they were middle of the pack when it comes down to

Speaker 39 how long they locked down.

Speaker 22 My theories on this was, one,

Speaker 10 Portland in particular was burning down most of the year, so probably people were terrified to go outdoors at all and see anyone.

Speaker 13 Plus, you also have a, and their economy did relatively well compared to some of these other more locked down type states.

Speaker 19 And I think you might have a population population that was more able to work from home.

Speaker 14 You know, the industries there are friendlier to being able to work at home. So there wasn't as much of a need for that.

Speaker 40 But that's where that finished.

Speaker 9 Number, let's see, number four,

Speaker 67 Idaho,

Speaker 21 74.1 score out of 100.

Speaker 54 Idaho did pretty much everything pretty well.

Speaker 14 Every one of their categories was pretty good.

Speaker 9 Not at the top of the list, but in the top third on pretty much every single thing.

Speaker 52 A couple of surprises here towards the top here.

Speaker 65 Number three, and there's an asterisk on this one a little bit too.

Speaker 13 Number three was Wisconsin.

Speaker 22 And I would think Wisconsin,

Speaker 58 how the heck,

Speaker 49 really?

Speaker 65 They have a Democratic governor,

Speaker 48 yet they ranked on this, you know,

Speaker 13 how long did they lock down the stringency index?

Speaker 20 They were only fifth.

Speaker 40 They were somehow fifth.

Speaker 65 Now, I looked into that a little bit more thinking, how the hell

Speaker 8 did Wisconsin finish fifth in this measure?

Speaker 64 Because it's really the strongest thing that they had going for them in this, in the little formula here.

Speaker 21 And the reason was

Speaker 65 the courts kept overturning all the things the Democratic governor wanted to do.

Speaker 28 So they never, they were on and off again a little bit, but

Speaker 10 the courts were like, no, you can't do any of this crap.

Speaker 73 So they didn't go into lockdown as much as a lot of other blue states did, which is kind of an interesting factor.

Speaker 21 Score of 83.9 out of 100.

Speaker 47 Number two, New Hampshire, 84.9 out of 100.

Speaker 38 I wouldn't have guessed that one either.

Speaker 62 Yeah, you know, I wouldn't have either. Although you got live free or die, right?

Speaker 43 They were actually, they did not lock down all that hard.

Speaker 18 They had pretty good results from COVID, and their economy was relatively well protected.

Speaker 27 They are also

Speaker 27 an older population, which helps them in this measure.

Speaker 23 I mean, considering they were eighth overall in death rate and have the second oldest population in the country, it's pretty impressive that that stuck together.

Speaker 3 And I don't know, it kind of makes sense in some ways.

Speaker 13 You know, it's a state that has a motto where you're supposed to be taking responsibility for your own actions, and maybe that helped play in.

Speaker 62 Number one, though, are you ready? Score of 90.1 out of 100.

Speaker 74 I am.

Speaker 75 90.1 out of 100, the number one score in the entire union.

Speaker 10 This was a surprise to me.

Speaker 65 I will say, I didn't see this one coming.

Speaker 49 Number one,

Speaker 50 the state of...

Speaker 6 Wait, does this end or? Confusion.

Speaker 20 The state of confusion?

Speaker 38 No. Okay.

Speaker 77 The state of Utah.

Speaker 34 Utah.

Speaker 73 That is what I was going to guess. Really?

Speaker 63 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 20 That's what I was going to guess.

Speaker 78 That's pretty interesting.

Speaker 37 I would not have guessed it. Really?

Speaker 20 Just because I don't know.

Speaker 24 I mean,

Speaker 51 it didn't get any press.

Speaker 52 You know, like people talk, the right has talked about Texas.

Speaker 10 They've talked about Florida.

Speaker 46 They've talked about Arizona. They've talked about South Dakota.

Speaker 63 They've talked about a lot of different states.

Speaker 9 Georgia got press at the beginning quite a bit.

Speaker 28 Really, I haven't heard much conversation about Utah, but Utah kind of sat there and did incredibly well in every measure here.

Speaker 29 Number three, as far as how long were they in lockdown?

Speaker 9 Third least amount of time.

Speaker 21 So they were third, say, on the Freedom Index, right?

Speaker 69 Okay.

Speaker 10 Economy, they finished seventh in the entire country.

Speaker 33 And their COVID results, they finished sixth.

Speaker 28 Wow. So really did.

Speaker 24 Now, I will say they are the youngest state in the Union, which I did not know either until doing this research. Youngest state in the union.

Speaker 62 However, they get punished

Speaker 13 in this measure for that.

Speaker 24 Like if you're a young state, you lose points on the formula because

Speaker 13 an older state has a tougher time with something like this.

Speaker 29 So despite the fact that they got punished for that, still finished number one in the union with a score of 90.1.

Speaker 48 And really has had no press and no credit and

Speaker 39 no love.

Speaker 52 I mean, I haven't heard anybody saying, well, you know, who's doing a good job is Utah.

Speaker 3 And this comes back to something

Speaker 8 I think has proved since the beginning of this to be really important.

Speaker 3 We've talked so much about about what the government does.

Speaker 13 Am I going to sit here and say that everything that Utah did from the government level was right?

Speaker 32 I doubt it.

Speaker 39 I mean, I don't know all the details.

Speaker 31 I don't live in Utah, but I guarantee if we open up the phone lines, we get lots of people complaining about what the government was saying or doing in Utah, as we would from every state.

Speaker 10 But, like, there's something to do with this coming back to, instead of the government, the people.

Speaker 3 You know, this is the United States of America.

Speaker 18 We lead the government.

Speaker 22 The government doesn't lead us.

Speaker 76 That's not the way this works.

Speaker 9 And, you know, if you look at the type of population you'd want to potentially have in the form in the, in the time of a pandemic, I got to say, you might draft Mormons number one.

Speaker 81 You might.

Speaker 67 First of all, they're pretty healthy.

Speaker 51 Second of all, as you point out, pretty young.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 74 I would say they do a good job following rules.

Speaker 45 Would you say that's an accurate statement?

Speaker 23 I would say

Speaker 59 they're not like the type of people who are like going to, you know,

Speaker 13 they're not like people who are going to go out and like, you know, burn down government buildings because they don't like a policy.

Speaker 48 They're going to argue with it. They're going to say what they believe, but

Speaker 4 they're not going to do that.

Speaker 63 They're not activists.

Speaker 40 Yeah, they're not like, yeah.

Speaker 43 And I think that's, you know, I mean that in a good way, in this particular measure

Speaker 66 specifically.

Speaker 28 And then also, there are people who tend to do a lot of thinking about others, right?

Speaker 48 Like they're much, I would say less focused on like, well, damn it, it's my right.

Speaker 17 Then, you know what?

Speaker 4 Like, I don't like this, but I don't want to make anyone else sick.

Speaker 26 I want to make sure that like every, I think there's a very selfless aspect of that culture that makes a state like Utah perform really well.

Speaker 52 And I will note, too, number four was Idaho.

Speaker 34 Yes, also quite Mormon.

Speaker 62 Also quite Mormon.

Speaker 17 And I, you know,

Speaker 78 it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 And I think that it comes down to that a little bit more than...

Speaker 12 cable news and even talk shows and politicians have talked about.

Speaker 10 You just mentioned this with the masks.

Speaker 12 The government policy has been such a factor.

Speaker 13 But really, I mean, you look at the states with no mask mandates

Speaker 13 and compare them to the ones with mask mandates, there's about a 10 to 12% difference of mask usage.

Speaker 65 It's really not that different.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 65 It really doesn't make all that much difference.

Speaker 18 It's really about what the people wind up doing.

Speaker 80 We lead this government. They don't lead us.

Speaker 38 So would this be a good time to send a couple of guys in white shirts and bicycles over to your house?

Speaker 38 Seems like a pretty good time, maybe, for that.

Speaker 38 I'll make the call. I'll make the call while you do the commercial.

Speaker 37 I have COVID. They can't come in.

Speaker 37 This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 42 All right.

Speaker 56 So in Israel, apparently people are pretty open to getting the vaccine.

Speaker 38 I have kind of a different impression of many Americans because I hear from a lot who just have no intention of ever being vaccinated.

Speaker 42 Yeah, the polling has been pretty consistent.

Speaker 65 It's improved as far as people wanting to take the vaccine, which is what you would expect, right?

Speaker 10 It's been basically the entire time broken down like this.

Speaker 52 About 40% of people are like, absolutely, give me the vaccine.

Speaker 36 Like, give it to me. I'm ready for it.

Speaker 19 Day one.

Speaker 60 I'm rushing down.

Speaker 6 Throw some needles at me, whatever sticks in, and I'll take that one.

Speaker 33 They're fine.

Speaker 22 About 30% of people are like, say basically, I'm open to it, but I want to kind of see if everyone starts dropping dead first.

Speaker 74 You know, like, can you have, can I not be first in line?

Speaker 21 Let me just see if people, these needles go in people's arms and they just spontaneously combust.

Speaker 48 If that doesn't happen, all right, I'll go check it out.

Speaker 62 Then there's about 20% of the population who says, I don't want to get it, but like if I have to.

Speaker 36 Like if work tells me I need to do it, or I can't get into any, I can't take any flights because I can't get a vaccine.

Speaker 7 All right, whatever, I'll do it.

Speaker 13 And then there's about 10% of the population that is like sign up ideologically against

Speaker 23 vaccines in general or this particular vaccine for some reason.

Speaker 21 So the polling's been pretty consistent in that general format. Some of the people who have, were in that 30% group that say, look,

Speaker 29 I'm open to getting it, but I'm a little worried.

Speaker 21 Some of those people have now moved into.

Speaker 44 the I'm going to get the vaccine group.

Speaker 10 So it's, and some of the people have received the vaccine already in that group.

Speaker 4 So it is, most people are fine getting it. They realize, you know, they might not be excited about getting a shot, but they're going to go through it and get it anyway.

Speaker 65 I think there's a certain percentage of people, you know, it seems to be about 10% that are just, you know, ideologically against the vaccine for whatever reason or just don't think it's going to work or don't think it's safe or healthy.

Speaker 3 And I don't think you're going to change those people's minds.

Speaker 47 You know, that's just the way, you know, the way they've, you know, processed the information.

Speaker 62 A larger part of that area, though, are people who just don't go to the doctor all that often.

Speaker 63 You know, people who, those are the people that are reachable on the vaccine.

Speaker 18 People who just like, I don't tend, like, there's a lot of people who like never go to the dentist, for example.

Speaker 75 Like, you know, they just don't ever do it.

Speaker 48 And it's, it's a surprisingly high percentage of the population that, you know, don't get dental care for decades on end.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 7 And the same thing happens with doctors, you know, especially

Speaker 10 in minority communities, in communities and inner cities that just don't have access access or don't have money or don't desire to go see the doctor for every little thing.

Speaker 3 And they just don't come in contact that often with medical professionals.

Speaker 10 So there's some skepticism there as well.

Speaker 44 And I think those are the people they're going to try to reach.

Speaker 6 In Israel, they have kind of the same problem where the Orthodox communities are much less likely to want to get the vaccine for ideological reasons.

Speaker 62 So those communities are much harder for the government to get the vaccine to.

Speaker 21 But they are at, as you point out, Pat, over now 50% fully vaccinated in Israel.

Speaker 31 They lead the world by a very large margin in that world.

Speaker 33 Let's see if I can get to the exact

Speaker 33 numbers.

Speaker 13 This is fully vaccinated numbers right now.

Speaker 10 Here we go.

Speaker 21 50.4% in Israel.

Speaker 47 Number two is Bahrain at 12.9.

Speaker 61 Wow. So a huge, huge gap there.

Speaker 38 Because we're at between partially and fully vaccinated. I think we're at around 20%, aren't we? And we're between those who have gotten one of the two shots and those who have gotten both of them.

Speaker 59 I've got that right here. It's not quite.

Speaker 67 Oh, you mean between both? Yes. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 43 at least one dose in the United States,

Speaker 64 18 plus population, 27.9% has already received one dose.

Speaker 33 But more importantly here, right, for this particular virus is the 65 plus population.

Speaker 3 Now, 65% of that population has received at least one dose.

Speaker 38 Which was the important group.

Speaker 69 Yeah. And look, you know, the Biden administration can try to take credit for all of this, which is completely ridiculous, right? Like

Speaker 71 during the Trump administration, they developed the vaccine. They got it all ready.

Speaker 10 They did all the testing. They got it all prepared.

Speaker 43 They designed the entire rollout strategy. And then Biden comes in office.

Speaker 81 It's like, look what we just did with the vaccines. Right.
We're great.

Speaker 38 We inherited a broken system.

Speaker 38 A completely broken, non-existent system.

Speaker 48 A lot of the people who are from the Trump administration who are running this effort are still there.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 29 You know, they're not partisans.

Speaker 13 They're just, you know, people who are really good at logistics.

Speaker 42 And you know what the record was?

Speaker 38 The record development time before this for a vaccine from start of the disease to when you have a vaccine for it before now,

Speaker 38 10 years.

Speaker 38 Measles took,

Speaker 38 I think it was a measles vaccination, 10 years.

Speaker 12 I thought there was one for like whooping cough or something that was like more like four or five years.

Speaker 41 But still, maybe it was multiple years.

Speaker 38 Yeah, it's a long time. It's a lot longer than a year.
Yeah. I mean, from start to finish, this thing happened in less than a year.

Speaker 32 Yeah. Really incredible.

Speaker 34 It's incredible.

Speaker 43 Whether you like it or not, it is absolutely impossible.

Speaker 63 It's a miracle.

Speaker 13 Which is, it really is incredible.

Speaker 64 And really more exciting than this particular vaccine is the technology behind the vaccine, this

Speaker 9 mRNA technology, which

Speaker 22 offers

Speaker 10 the ability to develop vaccines quickly like this,

Speaker 3 not just like pandemics.

Speaker 36 I'm talking about like, you know, diseases that have existed in the third world for generations and no one's really been able to get them under control because the development cost is so high and it takes so long.

Speaker 17 And obviously these countries don't have the money and all of this.

Speaker 75 This technology can be adapted really easily to things we've been fighting for a really long time.

Speaker 26 So I think long-term, the upside is even more exciting than just what we have here.

Speaker 70 Hey, we can go back to restaurants in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 26 But we're now fully vaccinated in the country, 15% of the 18-plus population and 37% of 65-plus.

Speaker 21 So you're going to see, you know, the one thing you're seeing in Israel is

Speaker 14 when they break down the death rates from the vaccinated population and the non-vaccinated population, it's remarkable how well this is working.

Speaker 26 You know, know, more than half of the deaths right now and cases are coming from only like the 5% of the population that isn't vaccinated in the older groups.

Speaker 13 And the other 95% of the population is

Speaker 23 accounting for less than the 5%, which is really remarkable. You look at it when it comes down, they break it down by age.

Speaker 35 The older population, their deaths are dropping like crazy in Israel.

Speaker 41 And they're down by

Speaker 13 over 70% now as far as just cases overall with the entire population.

Speaker 4 So, you know, it's encouraging.

Speaker 38 You know, what do you make of all the stories, though, of people, you know, dying within a day or two of this and or

Speaker 38 becoming

Speaker 38 uncontrollably shaky for,

Speaker 38 you know, the rest of, I mean, I don't know how long it's going to last, but there was, for instance, there was a woman who did a video and she couldn't stop shaking.

Speaker 38 I mean, every part of her body was shaking and it had been going going on for days and couldn't stop. And the only thing she could attribute it to was the vaccines.

Speaker 38 So, I mean, you're hearing these stories.

Speaker 38 And I don't, you know, maybe some people are just not able to handle it.

Speaker 66 I don't know. It's possible.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think, you know, look,

Speaker 6 science via YouTube video is never a good idea.

Speaker 22 Are you sure? Yeah, that's actually the first scientific principle.

Speaker 10 Don't do science based on YouTube videos.

Speaker 38 What about internet stories?

Speaker 38 Internet stories are a different thing.

Speaker 23 Well, if it's forwarded, then it's science.

Speaker 13 If people forward it enough times, it becomes science.

Speaker 38 So like I get it in my email in my inbox, I can take it directly to the bank.

Speaker 25 Yes, definitely. I can believe it's true.

Speaker 21 As long as the person sending it to you is not the source.

Speaker 33 If it's been passed three or four times, then it becomes science.

Speaker 39 I mean, look, you have to look at the anecdotal cases as

Speaker 29 what they are. And some of them,

Speaker 48 there are some people who have had bad reactions to it, I guess.

Speaker 13 It's pretty minor.

Speaker 10 I mean, we we know this, that the people who are taking the vaccine are dying at a much lower rate than people that are not taking the vaccine.

Speaker 38 And getting extremely sick at a much lower rate.

Speaker 56 At a much lower rate.

Speaker 3 And that's not just COVID.

Speaker 68 That's overall.

Speaker 82 Now, there could be a reason for that, in that people who are maybe healthier and more engaged in the healthcare system are more likely to get the vaccine.

Speaker 21 But it's certainly not showing.

Speaker 13 There's no evidence whatsoever of these effects in a large scale. For example,

Speaker 9 there's a debate going on with this AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe.

Speaker 6 And AstraZeneca is not approved for use here in the United States.

Speaker 26 They're in the middle of the test that would get it to approval, but it is not approved in the United States yet.

Speaker 64 It was approved very early on, as you might expect, because it has to do with Oxford in the UK.

Speaker 24 And that's really what they're using in the UK.

Speaker 36 It went over to

Speaker 31 Europe, and there's a debate now about a lot of the European countries have pulled it from usage.

Speaker 16 And because they believe there was, I believe, five cases of

Speaker 16 blood clots, or maybe it might have been up to about 30 cases of blood clots related to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Speaker 23 Again, totally different technology than Pfizer and Moderna, but still

Speaker 46 this was the concern.

Speaker 10 And so people were freaked out about it.

Speaker 27 They pulled it off the market.

Speaker 10 It's interesting, though, to look at the numbers there in that Europe, the people that pulled it off the market, are saying that blood clots are happening in one in 167,000 people who get the vaccine.

Speaker 62 Now,

Speaker 53 in Britain, who's been using this vaccine the entire time, they're saying it's one in 500,000.

Speaker 4 So there's a disagreement between 1 in 167,000 and 1 in 500,000.

Speaker 63 However, both of those numbers are better numbers than the population in general.

Speaker 74 So the idea that it's the vaccine causing this, the people,

Speaker 75 more than one in 167,000 people just get blood clots on a normal everyday life basis.

Speaker 59 So there's no reason to believe none of this, you know, none of the science shows that any of this stuff is happening.

Speaker 4 Now, look, that does not mean, and

Speaker 55 as you can probably tell,

Speaker 14 I'm very pro-vaccine.

Speaker 32 I want to get back to normal life.

Speaker 26 I think this is the best path to do it.

Speaker 10 I love what the Trump administration did on this. I love the fact that capitalism was involved.

Speaker 48 I love the fact that the ultimate enemy of every single left-wing newspaper in America, big pharmaceutical companies, were involved.

Speaker 50 I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 21 And I love the fact that this is the, the, I feel like the American way out of something like this. We just innovate, come up with something great and get out of it and go on with our lives.

Speaker 25 So I do like that.

Speaker 39 I am pro.

Speaker 20 However, nobody should be forcing you to take it if you don't want to take it.

Speaker 17 And that is, you know, we have not seen anyone in the United States yet require it.

Speaker 18 And they don't even require it in Israel.

Speaker 5 But it is something that you could see Gavin Newsome or Andrew Cuomo doing and saying that it is required.

Speaker 3 And you should not have to take any of these things if you don't want to to take them.

Speaker 68 That's an important part of liberty.

Speaker 38 Even if you don't have to do that, it's like you shouldn't have to wear a mask if you don't want to wear a mask.

Speaker 81 Same thing. Right.

Speaker 21 Like, even if, even if it was the best idea in the world,

Speaker 74 you still get to.

Speaker 56 I mean, look,

Speaker 29 I would not for

Speaker 3 this is a country in which we're not supposed to be forcing people through the government to do pretty much anything.

Speaker 79 You know, I mean, with the exception of don't murder, you know, don't steal.

Speaker 78 There's a bunch of things.

Speaker 21 There's a few commandments that outline some of these ideas at one point in an old book.

Speaker 10 But I mean, really, the government should have very limited access to your life as far as managing it.

Speaker 4 And so, you know, the people who are much more skeptical in the vaccine than I am, I stand with them in the idea that they should not be forced to take it.

Speaker 39 That's a terrible idea.

Speaker 51 And it also will just turn people off from wanting to take it.

Speaker 48 You know, people who are on the fence are just going to be like, screw you.

Speaker 10 Don't tell me what to do.

Speaker 38 It's exactly how I'd be if they started to mandate it. Well, now I don't want it.
Yeah.

Speaker 38 Now I don't want it.

Speaker 22 And the messaging of this has been terrible. It's basically like in Israel, they're saying, hey, get the vaccine, then go do what you want.

Speaker 13 As soon as you're vaccinated, none of these rules apply to you anymore, basically.

Speaker 4 That's what they're trying to communicate to the people.

Speaker 13 That's not entirely true in Israel, but it is what they're trying to communicate.

Speaker 64 That's the messaging.

Speaker 10 Here, the messaging is the opposite.

Speaker 50 It's like, hey, get the vaccine.

Speaker 2 And then in the year 2027, you'll be able to see another person again.

Speaker 75 You know, you may even be able to eat outdoors before 2050.

Speaker 17 We'll let you know.

Speaker 74 You know, we get to tell you when that happens.

Speaker 45 And the American people are just like, wait a minute, what?

Speaker 38 I know. Yeah.
And

Speaker 38 if you behave yourself, if you do everything we tell you to do,

Speaker 38 then maybe you can get together and have a backyard barbecue the 4th of July. We'll see.
And we'll see. And we'll let you know, by the way.

Speaker 19 Do you think any of this, Pat, is them just trying to underplay it?

Speaker 55 It's like, you know, when a, when an airplane company, you know, air, a flight tells you that you're going to be there at three o'clock when they know you're supposed to be there at 2:30.

Speaker 13 So they have that, like, that wiggle room in there. Yes.

Speaker 79 They're just trying to say, like, it's like he's like, oh, a million vaccines a day.

Speaker 13 It's like, well, we're already doing that.

Speaker 10 Like, he's trying to set expectations so low that he's definitely going to clear them.

Speaker 64 And maybe it's just that way.

Speaker 44 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Speaker 38 Joe Biden last night

Speaker 38 with George Stephanopoulos. And Stephanopoulos actually pressed him on the crisis going on at the border, which, of course, to the Biden administration isn't a crisis at all.

Speaker 38 It's the same thing that's been happening for years. And this is all Donald Trump's fault anyway.

Speaker 38 Here's Stephanopoulos actually asking him some decent questions about the border.

Speaker 88 A lot of the migrants coming in saying they're coming in because you promised to make things better. It seems to be getting worse by the day.
Was it a mistake not to anticipate this surge?

Speaker 89 Well, first of all, there was a surge the last two years and

Speaker 89 19 and 20, there was a surge as well. This one might be worse.

Speaker 49 No, well, it could be, but here's the deal.

Speaker 89 We're sending back people to first of all,

Speaker 89 the idea that Joe Biden said come, because I heard the other day that they're coming because they know I'm a nice guy and I won't do a job

Speaker 58 because you told them to.

Speaker 89 Well, here's the deal.

Speaker 49 They're not.

Speaker 88 You have to say quite clearly.

Speaker 71 I mean, they're not good follow-up there.

Speaker 34 Yes.

Speaker 58 I can say quite clearly. Here's the deal.
They're not.

Speaker 89 In the process of getting this set up, don't leave your town or city community.

Speaker 33 Democrats get to say this every time and it's not hateful. Unbelievable.

Speaker 53 Don't leave your town or city is the thing that Donald Trump would say and that would be hateful when he said it.

Speaker 20 And xenophobic.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 71 Yeah. You should.
Well, you shouldn't.

Speaker 31 You know, he's right on that point.

Speaker 4 If you want to give him a very narrow, he's correct.

Speaker 36 You shouldn't illegally come to another country in any circumstance.

Speaker 65 Others

Speaker 10 potentially like a massive war going on in your country and you're escaping as a refugee.

Speaker 17 Really, there's no reason to do this.

Speaker 27 It's not for economic benefit.

Speaker 13 That's not what these laws are set up to do.

Speaker 84 And honestly, illegally, you shouldn't ever come.

Speaker 13 You should come as a refugee in certain circumstances.

Speaker 38 Well, Biden denies that he is responsible at all for this.

Speaker 38 But let's go back to the campaign and the promise he made essentially to the people of Mexico and Central and South America when he talked about the first hundred days of his administration.

Speaker 38 Cut number two.

Speaker 89 They're there seeking asylum. First time ever we've told people they can't come to America.
That ends. The cage is closed.

Speaker 58 That ends.

Speaker 38 Cages are closed.

Speaker 38 And in the first 100 days, he goes on to say, you know,

Speaker 38 they can come here essentially

Speaker 38 and receive asylum from the United States of America. Like, we've never told them before not to come.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 71 And by the way, the cages are open, just so you know.

Speaker 19 They're now open.

Speaker 4 Come on in.

Speaker 71 You're going to Cageville, everybody.

Speaker 56 Right.

Speaker 71 Cage Town.

Speaker 38 And they're at full capacity, too, beyond full capacity. Yep.
The cages.

Speaker 33 I mean, the average is something like 300% of pre-COVID capacity.

Speaker 41 So.

Speaker 38 I mean, Democrats were weeping over it.

Speaker 38 They would literally have press conferences where they would break down and weep openly about how inhumane it was Donald Trump treating

Speaker 38 these children that came across the border that were ripped, that were torn from the arms of their crying mothers and then tossed into these cages like animals.

Speaker 81 All of that was

Speaker 38 so tragic under Donald Trump. And now

Speaker 38 it's just the humane thing to do. Now, what else are we supposed to do with them? They're just all here without their parents, and we've got to find some place for them.

Speaker 38 And we don't know where they belong. And we're trying really hard to find their parents.

Speaker 38 So what are we supposed to do other than put them in these facilities? They're facilities now. They're not gauges.

Speaker 87 No, now they're just facilities. They're wonderful facilities.

Speaker 16 I went back, by the way, Pat, and I think you'll remember the story when

Speaker 7 Alexandria Casio-Cortez, these photos came out of her at the border and she was crying at a fence. You remember these things?

Speaker 29 I do. Yeah.

Speaker 43 And, you know, the people were kind of mocking them as sort of looking very staged.

Speaker 20 And they were actually taken before AOC was like a figure, a public figure.

Speaker 19 She was running for office, but like no one knew who she was at this point.

Speaker 4 And I went back and just glanced at those.

Speaker 24 They are among the most cringeworthy photos I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 38 Oh, I'd love to see them.

Speaker 6 Now, she claims this was a real moment, and the photographer says it was a real moment of emotion overtaking her.

Speaker 75 They look so cringey and staged.

Speaker 62 And, you know, she's standing in front of this fence, and it is like down the road along like driveway, if you will, to a facility.

Speaker 3 So people were saying, oh, she's just in front of an empty lot.

Speaker 82 It's not true exactly. Like, you know, she was near the facility.

Speaker 20 It was as close as she could get.

Speaker 64 I mean, they weren't allowing people inside.

Speaker 2 But still, like, I just, I don't know.

Speaker 4 It's like, can you, you know, I don't know, I'm trying to think of like if you were,

Speaker 41 if you went to a meeting, a site that somehow meant something to you, but you could barely see it in the distance,

Speaker 19 it doesn't seem like it would evoke the emotion.

Speaker 61 And then it just like, it just doesn't look real.

Speaker 61 It looks like she's just standing there fake crying for the camera.

Speaker 69 I mean,

Speaker 75 I don't know what it is seeing them again after knowing her.

Speaker 4 Because when you first saw them, she was kind of in the news and it wasn't a huge story at the time.

Speaker 58 Knowing how awful she is and how her only goal in life is to pander to cameras.

Speaker 41 You know, all she does all the time is go on Instagram Live and run her mouth about God knows what, how she doesn't know how the freaking, you know, garbage disposal works or whatever she talks about.

Speaker 48 And

Speaker 17 to see these photos in that light now that we know kind of who she is, oh, they're cringy.

Speaker 62 Are you looking at them?

Speaker 38 Could you pray? I'm trying to find them. I haven't seen them yet.

Speaker 33 I have to sell them to you.

Speaker 61 They are so cringy.

Speaker 31 I know we had them on the ⁇

Speaker 7 we showed briefly on the show the other day on Studos America.

Speaker 10 And it's just, oh, it gives you that feeling inside your stomach when you realize like someone's like.

Speaker 74 Trying,

Speaker 13 like a really bad actor or actress who's trying to pull off a role and failing.

Speaker 23 And like everyone around you knows that they're failing to get that like tightness in your stomach.

Speaker 56 And it's like, oh, God, this is so cringy.

Speaker 33 That's what it feels like when you look at them.

Speaker 38 I know she said something early on when it came out again that Biden is using the cages. And she actually said something

Speaker 29 negative about it. Moderately negative.

Speaker 58 Moderately negative.

Speaker 15 It wasn't a literal concentration camp when Joe Biden was.

Speaker 38 No, that's for sure.

Speaker 38 But she's been amazingly silent since. I think she said one thing about it and then she shut her mouth about it.

Speaker 23 She said, like, this is wrong. It's always been wrong.

Speaker 10 That's what it was. But Donald Trump is evil.
It was like that type of thing.

Speaker 23 That's pretty much.

Speaker 41 Yeah,

Speaker 41 totally different standard.

Speaker 19 And, of course, all these things that she talked about, you know, she complained about wanting this $15 minimum wage and how she was going to hold up the process.

Speaker 87 She didn't vote against the bill.

Speaker 63 It's amazing.

Speaker 61 She let it go through anyway because she's just like so many other Democrats.

Speaker 19 You know,

Speaker 19 there's nothing there.

Speaker 38 And back in late February, Glenn tweeted out.

Speaker 38 Maybe you guys talked about this at the time. Just for the record, the Biden administration is separating children and parents.
Did you talk about that at the time?

Speaker 38 Because PolitiFact fact-checked that.

Speaker 3 They are separating children and parents. Yes.

Speaker 38 Glenn Beck said that. The evil Glenn Beck

Speaker 34 with his hatefulness.

Speaker 71 I love this one.

Speaker 57 This is the one where he said a full sentence and they fact-checked half the sentence.

Speaker 42 They actually broke the sentence into two pieces so they could give him a false ranking.

Speaker 38 That's unbelievable.

Speaker 74 And like, I don't understand why this is better.

Speaker 48 What is happening now?

Speaker 50 This is their argument.

Speaker 12 When Donald Trump was president, a mom and a son would come across the border and the mom would get arrested for coming across the border.

Speaker 74 They didn't want to throw the son into jail, right?

Speaker 85 Yes. So they would detain them in two different places.

Speaker 13 That was the separation of children from parents that we heard so much about. Right.

Speaker 49 Right. Right.

Speaker 51 What's happening now is the parents at some point before they cross the border are having the children ahead of them by themselves.

Speaker 22 So they're now crossing the border solo instead of with their parent. They're still separate.

Speaker 77 They just separated on the other side of the border.

Speaker 51 And that means Donald Trump is evil and Hitler and literal concentration camp guy, and Joe Biden is totally fine.

Speaker 38 And they act as if Donald Trump had his minions down at the border stealing babies from the arms of their parents, when in fact, it was mostly teenagers then, like it's mostly teenagers now.

Speaker 38 It was older children and teens.

Speaker 38 I don't think a lot of babies were torn from the arms of their mothers as they carried across the border.

Speaker 3 I mean, what we're looking at right now is 15, 16, and 17-year-olds largely.

Speaker 6 Now, look, are those quote-unquote children?

Speaker 45 I mean, in the lies of the law, sure, they're underage,

Speaker 28 but

Speaker 63 it's a different story than what you picture.

Speaker 74 And, you know, they will use the photos

Speaker 21 to elicit emotion.

Speaker 44 They will find the one younger child who happens to be in a large group and focus on them, who doesn't know what's going on.

Speaker 82 I mean, there's obviously they use this, they use these photos for their advantage, just like these AOC photos.

Speaker 7 I think we have them now.

Speaker 69 Oh, good. Look at.

Speaker 58 Oh, yeah, look at that. It's just

Speaker 81 typical.

Speaker 38 That just happened to be somebody walking by with a camera at the same time that AOC started breaking down.

Speaker 64 It is

Speaker 38 clearly spontaneous.

Speaker 22 If you happen to be on Blaze TV, it's worth watching because basically you have the...

Speaker 10 There's a couple of different vibes here.

Speaker 80 You have one vibe where she's looking like a sad puppy dog at the camera, which is just

Speaker 86 hysterical.

Speaker 18 And then the other one where she's standing by herself and awkwardly bending over in her pristine white clothing and her nice new watch.

Speaker 87 And she's kind of just like crying.

Speaker 77 It doesn't seem.

Speaker 56 It bent her in half.

Speaker 34 The grief.

Speaker 38 The grief bent her in half.

Speaker 38 The grief of these children being taken from their parents bent her in half.

Speaker 33 And look, there are a lot of sad stories on the border.

Speaker 21 This is why we say we should have it under control.

Speaker 10 I mean, there are really terrible, tragic stories that happen on the border all the time.

Speaker 85 People who are convinced by Democrats, largely, that this is not really an offense, that it's basically it's less than a speeding ticket because you don't even get fined.

Speaker 79 And, you know, they come across the border thinking they're going to get a better life because Democrats are screaming that it's possible.

Speaker 75 And now they see Biden as the, quote, migrant president.

Speaker 77 The Mexican president said that these migrants see Joe Biden as the migrant president.

Speaker 71 And

Speaker 79 they are coming here because they believe it's okay.

Speaker 77 They believe, because half the country and all of the media is saying it, it's okay.

Speaker 38 And just to accentuate that point,

Speaker 38 we have one of the migrants actually

Speaker 38 speaking about this.

Speaker 34 Let me see.

Speaker 38 Did we have this today?

Speaker 38 Yeah, okay. Here's one of the migrants talking about Joe Biden, actually.

Speaker 90 What I want from my people, I just want patience and pest that we can get to the U.S. because they're having a new president, Verse Biden.
He's going to help all of us.

Speaker 91 He's giving us 100 days to get to the U.S.

Speaker 90 and give us legal mental paper so we can get a better life for our kids and family.

Speaker 34 Isn't that great?

Speaker 38 So they got it right from Joe Biden. He's giving him 100 days to get here and just have a better life for him and his family.

Speaker 74 And I, look, we, that's amazing.

Speaker 84 It is amazing.

Speaker 13 And we as conservatives would look at this and say, a lot of times we'll say, like, you shouldn't come across the border and, you know, it's a bad idea, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 33 And that's, of course, true.

Speaker 48 But it's also like from their perspective, the messaging they're getting from the entire media.

Speaker 77 And not to mention the candidate himself and all of his allies in Congress is, it's mean if we send you back.

Speaker 42 If we say, hey, you know, we're going to deport you.

Speaker 75 That's the mean thing.

Speaker 17 We're not going to do that anymore.

Speaker 58 He campaigned on it.

Speaker 22 Of course they believe they can come in.

Speaker 66 We've been telling you this for months and months and months and months.

Speaker 85 If Joe Biden gets in, everything's going to be fine.

Speaker 45 Well, of course they believe they can come in.

Speaker 22 Of course they do.

Speaker 58 He told them. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 81 he essentially.

Speaker 56 told them that, look, I'm your guy.

Speaker 81 I'm your president too, because I'm going to invite you in.

Speaker 77 That's what what he did.

Speaker 38 That's the message they got.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 48 And they're not experts on the law of the United States.

Speaker 65 Think about this.

Speaker 21 Like, sure, you could say, okay, it's against the law.

Speaker 36 But like when the leader of the nation and all of the big Democrats are all saying it's basically okay.

Speaker 22 Well, of course that's the impression they're going to have.

Speaker 77 It's basically okay.

Speaker 43 Yeah, it might be frowned upon.

Speaker 17 Yeah, you know, I mean, they're not going to like fly you in and give you a welcome ceremony.

Speaker 21 But at the end of the day, you're going to come in, you're going to be in a facility for a couple couple of days and get released into the country.

Speaker 74 And you're going to get what you want.

Speaker 75 And anything other than that is mean and Hitler and literal concentration camps.

Speaker 22 So of course they believe this is okay.

Speaker 49 You know, I mean,

Speaker 10 if you had a speeding limit of, you know, a speed limit of 55,

Speaker 85 but the governor,

Speaker 10 the sheriff, the police force were all saying it's actually 75.

Speaker 12 You guys can all go 75.

Speaker 77 What the hell would you do? You'd go 75.

Speaker 58 Right?

Speaker 65 I do anyway.

Speaker 64 So yes, the answer to that is yes.