Best of The Program | Guests: Joe Bastardi & James Kitchen | 2/22/21

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WeatherBELL chief forecaster Joe Bastardi joins to discuss how the Left has weaponized climate change to dictate policy. Attorney James Kitchen brings the latest on the Canadian pastor who was imprisoned for breaking lockdown rules. Some Coca-Cola employees were given a training asking them to be less white. Dr. Karlyn Borysenko, who exposed the training, joins to discuss how widespread it actually is, as Coke tries to explain away its decision.
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Great podcast today.

We have the woman who broke the story on Coca-Cola and their Be Less White Training program last week, Carlin Borisenko.

She's going to be with us.

Also, we have the attorney that is representing the Christian pastor who has been arrested and put in a maximum security prison.

No bail.

He's waiting for his trial because he violated the COVID restrictions.

A pretty amazing story.

Also, more on the weather and global climate change.

John Kerry says we only have nine years to stop it.

Now even less because he said it the other day.

Yeah, so it's crazy.

All the news you need to know with perspective on today's podcast.

You're listening to the best of the benefit program.

John Kerry has come out.

on Friday and said that the record cold temperatures were seeing

global warming.

I don't know how that works.

But the guy who flies on private jets and has a mega yacht and several mansions, but he's different than all of us.

He says it is growing too late.

We now only have, write this down on your calendar, Stu.

Now we have John Kerry giving us nine years.

So we have an official new clock, a new countdown, nine years to fix this.

So, okay, we got that down.

Yeah, that's

no problem.

Don't worry.

We only have nine years to fix it, and that's why it needs to be a cram down.

Now, some would say that, no,

no,

I don't think I'm going to buy that.

Some would say, no, I don't think the cold weather

is because of global climate change, because Texas has had this kind of cold weather before.

It happens from time to time.

You know, but maybe it's just me.

But the world is waiting for America.

Even though reports now come out

that

about 230 miles east of Moscow,

there's a pack of dogs that have been discovered that their fur is a bright blue.

Now, it could be that they've been hanging out around the chemical plant,

but Moscow doesn't know.

They have no idea.

It may be an entirely new species of dog that is bright blue.

But remember, America is the crap hole that is holding the rest of the world back.

Joe Bastardi is with us, and

he is the

chief forecaster at Weather Bell and also the author of The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War.

Boy, oh boy, oh boy.

Guess what he's he's going to say?

Hi, Joe.

Hi, who would have ever thought?

Hi, Stu.

Hi, Glenn.

Hi, Pat.

Hi, everybody.

You let in with John Kerry, and I'm like, oh, man, you're just like waving a red flag in front of me.

Who would have ever thought that John Kerry could be an advertisement for my book?

Right.

The whole book just counters that kind of, there's actually a chapter on that, the weaponization of

the global temperature.

And, you know, I just I'm watching these statements and

I can't believe it.

Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, we only have nine years now.

And I know we had 10 years about 15 years ago, but this time

we now have nine years to solve this thing.

Otherwise, we're doomed.

We're doomed.

And you saw what happened in Texas, right?

Yeah,

you better believe I saw what happened in Texas since we were, my company was way out in front of it.

You know, we have major clients in Texas, construction companies.

And on February 10th,

as publicly as I could, and as many people as I could contact, you know, my dad used to say, if you have to tell someone you're good at something, you can't be that good at it.

But on the, you know, not everybody follows me or whatever.

On February 10th, we said,

category, the winter equivalent of a category five hurricane

most five-day extreme winter weather event in Texas history and I actually put the maps of 1899 on that infamous outbreak in 1899 by the way I'd like to question Senator Kerry how did that happen 1899 with that outbreak and then the 1900 Galveston hurricane you can't get more extreme than those type of swings that were going on back then and the only thing I could say is that it must have been the horses that were adding whatever they were oh yeah

yeah the methane

so wait so wait a minute you if I'm not mistaken didn't you call the state officials and say hey guys prepare here it comes well what happened was uh you know I have contacts and one of the contacts is Sean Hannity who forwarded my book and you know I was mailing Sean and everybody way in advance and Sean

called the Governor Cruz, or Senator Cruz and Governor Abbott.

And Friday night,

I got a call from Senator Cruz.

And we talked for about a half hour, and then we talked with Governor Abbott, and then the

staffs of Senator Cruz's staff Saturday morning to really try to get them ahead.

But by that time, it was sort of too late as far as what the state could do.

You needed a response starting four or five days away.

I actually tweeted that, Glenn, that there should, and this was the middle of, it was on Wednesday, I tweeted that there should be a federal response the same way as preparation for a hurricane goes, a winter type response, getting that equipment in there, understanding that we were going to have the kind of freeze-ups we were going to have.

And, you know, Saturday morning, I was digging into the Texas newspapers and I realized that they really didn't get it.

They were saying, oh, it's going to be cold, but we've had these kind of of things before.

This was completely, it was 1899.

It was

different from 83.

83 was a little bit colder in many places, but not as much snow in 83, the 83 outbreak.

Now, I know all this stuff because I have no life except the good Lord above, my family, and the weather.

So I go in and dig into all these maps.

My father's a meteorologist.

He taught me the foundation I stand on today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow.

So if I know yesterday, if I see maps from yesterday, I say, wait a minute, that's showing up again.

Guess what's going to happen?

And the interesting thing about this is I do this because I love it.

This is what God made me to do, so I'm going to do it as hard as I can.

And the second thing is it benefits my company.

Because what happens is everybody is just looking at the computer models and consensus and there are so many great forecasters out there.

But if you can add something more, something different

and help people out with that,

you add value to the product and then you see what happens.

All right.

So one of the things that you added, you said the three previous big freezes predicted this one.

Is that just from the maps, the computer models and the well, yeah,

there's certain things that go on.

There's certain signs that go on.

For instance, a week before the freeze, I have a couple of, I'm not going to say their names, they're meteorologists in Little Rock, Arkansas.

On Saturday night, after I got out of church, we had a big map discussion.

They called me up and we were talking about this.

This is a week before.

And here's what they were confronted with.

They said, Joe, we're reading what you're saying.

You're referencing 83.

You're referencing 1899.

None of the computer models are predicting those numbers.

You know, they're all 50 and a low at 35 and things like that.

And so we went over the whole thing, and there's

a certain type of way that Texas gets really cold.

You need the ridge of high, the Arctic Ridge of High Pressure to run from Montana down to Midland.

And what happens is it's high pressure that actually causes Texas to get brutally cold.

You get the buildup of low-level, cold, dense air in the northern plains, and it oozes southward.

There are these small pulses that come in.

And one of the biggest things that was going on, folks, was that the run-up to this, the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday period, the computer-generated numbers were busting horribly one day away.

They were predicting a higher 15 or B 40, higher 40, or B 28.

And what happens is if you're, let's say you're automating your load estimates, if you're an energy company, and you're saying, well, we're going to use this computer model, it says it's going to be 50.

Well, guess what's going to happen if you're in Dallas is there's going to be day after day after day a build-up of error.

And then what happens when the real real cold the the strong so how can our models be this wrong and yet they say they can predict what's coming you know in nine years

they can't they're tools and i i talk about that in my book you know i i think people should get the you know i know it sounds like i'm shamelessly plugging the book but it's almost as if the book was written for what's going on now.

I didn't know Joe Biden was going to be president when I wrote that book, right?

And yet I wrote it because I felt there was something to say and alert people to about the weaponization of the situation.

No, the models, the tools to use.

See, they're not the answers.

They're ways to get answers.

They're outstanding ways to get answers.

But you've got to know, based on what happened in the past and comparisons, how to use them and when to use them.

And it's a matter of waiting.

It's a matter of what we call attribution.

And that's the problem with the climate, the guys on the climate side of the issue.

I see what they're saying.

A lot of good people on that side of the issue.

They've done great research.

I read their stuff all the time.

I want to know what they know, not what I know.

I can't increase what I know unless I hear from someone else.

So what happens is that

they look at one thing and put all their eggs in one basket.

When you have all these models, all these what we call analogs of the past, the

physical drivers of the atmosphere at that time, you have to decide as a human being, as a forecaster, try to do a service for your client or whoever, how to weight them.

Is this stronger than this one?

How do you blend them together?

And that takes a lot of dirty work.

You know, there's a saying,

everybody has the will to win, but the will to prepare to win is what counts.

And it's preparation.

It's no different.

I used to wrestle with Penn State.

It's no different than what we were taught on the wrestling map, except we do it with the weather in my company where it's just constant, constant looking at things so anyway joe i hope that doesn't sound too popular no it no it doesn't thank you because i know your record it doesn't uh joe bastardi his his book is called the weaponization of weather in the phony climate war uh probably a really good book to bone up on because we are entering uh a new battle and a new era and it is this one is powerful this one they say it is going to be done uh and we will be in a Green New Deal.

The weaponization of weather in the phony climate war.

Joe Bastardi, thank you so much, Joe.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

James Kitchen now joins us.

He is a lawyer with Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, something that is relatively new.

It's about 10 years old, and it's a voice for freedom in the courtrooms of Canada.

He is here to talk to us about

Pastor James Coates, who is now, is he still in maximum security?

He is, yeah, he's in the Remance Center in Edmonton.

And who goes to that prison usually?

Well, people who are awaiting their trial, right?

Which is what he's doing right now, currently.

That's why we refer to it as a remant center.

So

I think there's a wide mix.

Certainly his cellmate

was coming off of

some sort of drug.

I think it may have been meth.

For the first day or two, he was in the cell with Coates.

So I can imagine there's a wide range of guys in there.

And was he in solitary confinement for a while?

Well, I don't know if I'd quite call it that.

I mean, what was going on is that he wasn't allowed to have any visitors, so he couldn't see his wife.

He he was only let out for 40 minutes a day,

and he wasn't allowed to have any, you know, normal social interaction with anybody except, of course, his cellmate.

The reason for that is is is, of course, the the fourteen day COVID

you know, isolation restrictions.

Prisoners coming in.

So that's so that's not like normally in the prison you are able to receive some visitors and you have some you have some time out with in a common area with some with some other prisoners.

He's not getting that because of the COVID restrictions, not because of any other reason.

So I I mean, solitary solitary confinement probably isn't quite the word, but it's certainly taxing to only get those 40 minutes out and not be able to have any visitors.

So what is happening?

Why was he arrested?

Tell us the story.

Sure.

So

his church is probably one of the few that not only believes they should all meet together at the same time on a morning,

but are going to do it even when the government says not to because

they, first of of all i mean they don't they don't believe in the science behind it they don't they don't think it's a justified violation of their rights because they don't think there's scientific evidence to back it up but but um you know it's also a violation of their religious beliefs right because if they they they've they follow scripture and scripture says we are all to meet and meet in person not over zoom so that we can you know pray together sing together do baptism together have the lord's supper together etc etc so his church meets at its at its full normal capacity and he's the head pastor he presides over that's over that service most sundays so because he was at that capacity and not at 15 percent which is what it's supposed to be here in Alberta he did that for several months and eventually he was he was arrested and released on on on a Sunday after a service given an undertaking by the police he refused to sign that undertaking so he refused to agree with it so there was no real undertaking however the next Sunday he held church again and the police asked him to turn himself in and when he did they charged him with breaching that undertaking and that led immediately to a bail hearing.

Now, they also charged him with breaching public health measures, but

that was kind of the key charge there, because that's the only one that's criminal.

And so that led to a bail hearing.

At the bail hearing, he was released, but he was released with a condition.

And the condition was that he stop breaching the public health orders, which he couldn't do, of course, because that would mean now Church would have to be at 15%.

So, because he wouldn't agree to the condition, he had to be held in jail.

Now, are they doing this to business people?

Well, they haven't put any business people in jail.

You know, I have a lot of experience with this now, Burton.

I can tell you there's a lot of tickets.

There's a lot of attempts by the local health authority to close down the businesses.

There's been some court applications and some court orders, but

they haven't actually arrested and tried to throw any business owners in jail yet.

So you would think that business owners don't have the standing that that a church would have.

I mean,

I'm trying to remember what your Bill of Rights is called up in Canada.

It's not as strong as ours, but ours is worthless right now.

But you have protection for speech and for religion, right?

We do, yes.

It's called the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and it's the portion of our Constitution where our civil liberties are protected.

And Section 2, 2A, protects freedom of religion, and 2B

protects freedom of expression, as you said.

protects freedom of peaceful assembly, which is, of course, also being exercised on the Sunday morning by this church.

Yes,

similarly to you, we have these protections.

They're not worth much unless the court has a will to enforce them, unless the government has any sort of will to respect them.

They're not worth much, unfortunately.

So that's the situation we face.

And yes, the pastor would have more rights than a business owner.

So why was he singled out, do you think?

That's a good question.

You know, he's been doing this for a long time.

It's been three months

that he has been

just saying, look, I serve Jesus, not the government, and my church is going to continue to do church as we see is best for our people, is the most loving thing that we can do for our people to actually be here.

Has there been extreme breakouts among his flock?

There hasn't been any.

There hasn't been any.

I can only say that perhaps the government is,

after three months of him doing this, has kind of just, you know, they said, enough's enough.

We got to do something about this.

But wait, there hasn't been any outbreak of COVID in his congregation.

And while he was being arrested, aren't the numbers going dramatically in the opposite direction?

I mean, shouldn't they be easing up on these restrictions?

Because the numbers were going way down, were they not?

Well,

that's the elephant in the room.

Are the restrictions about politics or are they about safety and health and medicine and science and facts, right?

So I mean you know, this is a church of four hundred members.

They've had no outbreaks of COVID.

Nobody has died of COVID.

But they have they have had somebody die to the lockdown measures.

They had somebody die prematurely because he couldn't get his cancer treatment.

So

yeah, no, this isn't you know, this isn't this isn't ultimately, in my opinion, about science, facts, medicine, evidence, safety.

It's not about any, it's about politics.

Right?

Because if we did actually just care

about trying to keep people safe or public health or what have you, then if you had a church that was open full-on for three months and had no outbreaks and no issues, you'd leave them alone.

Obviously, it's working.

Obviously, the government is wrong about their restrictions on churches.

Obviously, it's working, and obviously, they're fine, and maybe we should actually go worry about the nursing homes where the problem really is.

That would be a reasonable approach, but that's not how politics works.

So, if it's politics, do you have faith that the court is not tangled in politics?

Here in America, it is.

Well,

I mean, where is it not, right?

I mean,

of course, my faith is

not solid.

You know, I certainly hope and look to the courts for them to think independently, for them to fulfill their role, to be a,

you know, an effective check on government power, an effective balance on that, to be a sober second thought and to not merely accept everything the government says, but to actually critically analyze whether or not it's true.

I would hope for that.

But so far in Canada, I've seen very few instances of that happening.

Most of what I've seen is the courts simply rubber stamping

government measures.

Terrifying.

Yeah, it is.

So

what can people do to help?

Well, first of all, did they the church, I assume, was was going again yesterday.

He was still in prison.

They had another pastor, and was he arrested or fined?

He wasn't.

Interestingly enough, for only the second time in three months, the public health inspectors did not show up.

And the local law enforcement were in the area, but didn't even enter the parking lot.

That was interesting and surprising.

The church was certainly prepared for

the hammer to come down.

And so it's hard to know what they're thinking, but

it says volumes that

nobody showed up.

The church had a large number of people there.

In fact,

they had to turn people away

just to be in accordance with their normal 100% fire code for actual safety.

They had to turn some people away who kind of stood around outside and listened to an outdoor speaker to the service because they didn't want to leave.

They were so happy to be there.

So

it was interesting.

So what can people do to help?

Well, you know, I think the most important thing people can do is to stop self-censoring.

Now, obviously, some people agree with this.

They agree with the lockdowns.

But

for the growing number of people who don't, it's important on an individual level that each one of them stand up and be counted and speak out.

And if they agree to disagree with it, to say so, right?

And to take some action, peaceful action, of course,

but actually say, no, this is wrong, and I'm going to do something about it.

I'm going to let my politicians know, and I'm going to start talking to people I know, and we're going to start, you know, living life and

not believe in this stuff anymore.

And we're going to say so.

That's the biggest thing, right?

We've got a lot of people who disagree with it quietly.

They don't say anything.

And then there's just a few people like Pastor James Coates, and then the government tries to single them out and take them out.

But if all the people who disagreed and opposed it stood up and said, we're done with this,

we're tired of being governed and policed in this way, we're tired of our rights being taken away, then this thing would start to crumble.

Well, I will tell you, that would be the easiest thing.

I know that Pastor Coates' wife said over the weekend that

don't stand by the 15% capacity limit.

She said,

you know, even though my husband is in prison for it, the best thing you can do is open your churches and stand up because they can't arrest all of us.

That's right.

I mean,

she's not wrong.

I mean, that's just how it works, right?

It's still a democracy that we live in, right?

It's obviously it's starting to fall apart, but

it's not a totalitarian dystopian nightmare yet.

We're on our way there, but it's not there yet.

It could still be turned around if enough people said, no, we don't want it to go there.

So we're not going to let it go there.

We're not going to put up with this.

Yeah,

she's right.

Thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

James Kitchen, lawyer for the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, will follow this story of Pastor James Coates, and please keep us updated.

Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

This is the Glenn Beck Program, the organizational psychologist who helps companies become better.

She has now committed herself to combating the influence of critical race theory in America.

Her name is Dr.

Carlin Borisenko, good friend of the program.

Hi, Carlin.

How are you?

I'm doing well, Glenn.

Thanks for having me back.

So you made some headlines over the weekend.

You are the one who wrote the first post about Coca-Cola.

Tell me how this happened and

what happened.

Yeah, so on Friday, well, let me back up one day.

On Thursday, Coca-Cola sent out an email to its employees about

this diversity training program that they were implementing, in which they said a specific course of programming was required.

Now, the very next day, I got an email from a whistleblower at the company who had been talking with their team members and all of them were incredibly uncomfortable about this specific training that told them to try to be less white.

And so one of them was very brave and he has watched my videos on YouTube and reached out to me and provided me evidence of the training and I posted it on Twitter.

frankly not really expecting it to get the reception that it did because I feel like I've been screaming about these training training programs for the better part of a year.

But thankfully, a lot of people took notice and it's really gotten a lot of attention.

Now, Coca-Cola has done some really disturbing things.

They are all in on the Great Reset and the ESGs, which people need to watch for.

ESG environmental, social, and governmental standards.

So the social part is like critical race.

It is social justice.

The environmental piece is the Green New Deal.

And these companies are resetting.

And Coca-Cola has been on the forefront of it.

If you look into Coca-Cola's

online presence and what they say, their bottling company in Europe actually justifies, says, in order for us to justify our business license, we do X, Y, and Z.

And

when did we have to start justifying a business license?

I mean, you have to be within the parameters, but now you have to do social work.

You have to do training on critical race theory, et cetera, et cetera, to, quote, justify your business license.

They're just ahead of

the rest of these corporations, I think.

Well, maybe, but I actually think that the questions at play here are much bigger than Coca-Cola.

You know, a lot of people have been calling for a boycott of Coca-Cola since the news broke.

And, well, I think that's all fine, well, and good.

The reality is that this training exists on LinkedIn Learning.

And what that means is that there are probably thousands of other companies out there that are having employees do this very same training.

And we already know that there are employees from some of the biggest companies in the world that are actually taking this training as we speak.

So for my money, I think that the story about Coke is interesting just because it's a really large company, but

the amount of companies that are already doing this and the amount of money that Robin D'Angelo is making convincing white people that they are racist is the real story here.

So tell me what she was teaching.

Coca-Cola came out and said, no, no, no, no,

that stuff on LinkedIn, that wasn't the focus

of the training.

That's how they tried to deny it and say that, no, no, no, we weren't doing any of that.

What were they doing?

Well, I also think it's worth noting that you're quoting Coca-Cola's first statement statement that was procured by the Blaze, but they actually came out with a second statement a couple hours later, which says, oh, no, no, we weren't having our employees do this specific training at all.

So they went from confirmation to denial within a couple hours.

But I mean, this is very typical Robin DiAngelo training.

It's teaching white people that they are every negative, every negative thing in the book.

And what it's actually doing is Robin DiAngelo's biggest grievances are, frankly, with people who are presenting a self-empowerment that she feels uncomfortable with.

It's when people, you know, aren't afraid to express themselves, aren't afraid to stand up for what they believe in.

It's a very specific type of communication style that she seems to have the most grievances with, and she's labeling that as all white people, which of course is not the case at all.

And in fact, I'll tell you this, the whistleblower that reached out to me is not white.

in any way, shape, or form, and they were still uncomfortable with the specific training.

So there are so many people that I know.

I have friends in so many different businesses and big companies from

financial houses to lawyers to architects to show people.

And

they're all saying they're going through these trainings.

And I've asked them, so what are you doing about it?

We just shut up.

I said, that's possibly the worst thing you can do.

And they're like, I don't want to lose my job Glenn and I honestly don't know who's on my side I know a couple of people that we kind of look at each other during the meetings But I don't know who's shutting their mouth and who feels like this is the right thing to do and I'll lose my job.

What should people do?

Yeah, I mean it is a sticky situation to be in because even if you ask questions about these trainings, you are at very real risk of losing your job.

But I'll tell you this, what I'm trying to do right now is actually I'm working on getting critical race theory banned in state agencies and in state contractors at a state level in New Hampshire.

There is actually a bill right now.

I just testified for it last week in the New Hampshire House of Representatives called HB 544, which would ban state money being spent on this type of training.

And I actually know from the whistleblowers at Koch that when President Trump issued his executive order that banned this at a federal level, Koch actually put the pause on it for a minute and they brought it back after Biden rescinded the executive order on his first day.

So I think the very best thing people can do right now is reach out to your state representatives, try to get this banned on a state level in state agencies and in state government contractors, and that'll go a long way.

I think we also need

some sort of

a lawyer action group that can

give people advice or represent people.

I mean, I can't believe that if you object to a

you have to be less white, I can't believe that you're going to lose in a court of law.

Well, it's funny because I don't know if you've been following the story of Jodi Shaw, who was a whistleblower at Smith College, but she just resigned over last week

in reference to this same type of thing happening at Smith College.

And she filed complaints with their HR offices.

And what she was told was: civil rights laws aren't written to protect people who look like you.

Wow.

I'd love to see that tested

in court because if that's true, we're done as a nation.

You mentioned that people, that who the person who reached out to you was not white with the Coca-Cola thing.

I think it's fascinating.

And that, like, how important in the turnaround of this nonsense is it for people who are not white to step up and say this is wrong?

Because that's got to be a crucial part of the momentum to turn this around because it's all white people talking about.

right, exactly.

Martin Luther King had a lot of white pastors and

a lot of people.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's critical to the operation because how this is usually framed is that the reason the white people speak up is that they're scared or they're fragile or any of these things.

And that's simply not the case.

So I think that everyone who is, this should not be a black or white or brown issue.

This shouldn't even be a Democrat versus Republican issue, quite frankly.

If you are opposed to racism, you should be opposed to things like this.

And I have to tell you, some of the feedback I've received from black people has been, well, Carlin, we were told to be less black in the workplace for years.

And that's very valid, but that's also wrong and racist.

That shouldn't be happening either.

And if you're against that type of racism, then you should be against this as well.

So tell me, see, the problem with critical race theory to me and this anti-racist thing is its objective is to employ reverse racism.

The only way to cure it

is to punish those of another race and to have this reverse racism, which is an incredible goal to have.

So they admit that that's what they're trying to do.

Correct or not correct?

Yeah, that's exactly correct.

Yeah,

the goal of critical race theory is that racism exists everywhere, and it says that white people put these systems in place in order to maintain power, and the only way to get rid of of racism is to you know bring bring the white people down a level essentially so how do you argue with somebody who says well how can you disagree that white people wrote the rules and and this country was you know founded by a bunch of white people

Well, I would say, yeah, it was founded by a bunch of white people, but this country has been all about progress and creating a more perfect union.

I mean, the founders of this country were not perfect men, but they were good men, and they were trying to do the right thing.

And even when Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, it was very obvious that he was uncomfortable with slavery and was trying to build mechanisms in to get slavery, you know, to be outlawed in the future.

And so I think that, you know, we are not a perfect country, but we get better and better and better all the time.

And these policies are simply regressing us back to a place that was even before the civil rights movement in this country.

It makes absolutely no sense.

sense.

And I just don't think the people continuing them have thought about what the end goal is.

They don't take into consideration that when Robin D'Angelo says all white people are racist, well, guess what?

She means you too, and she means the CEOs of all these companies.

And if the goal is to destroy white privilege, well, that means all of your institutions are going to get

torn down in the process.

And so, what does that really leave us with?

I don't think that leaves us much to build on.

There are very real and valid questions about race in this country, but this is not the way to fix it.

I can't believe that you were

ever thinking that you were, you know, liberal or a progressive.

I can't believe it.

To hear you quote Thomas Jefferson and our founders, I'm just so happy and

proud to be your friend.

Proud to be your friend.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

And I have to tell you, it's been a little over a year since I went to that Trump rally.

I do consider myself a liberal, but I think that I consider myself a liberal in the way that I'm a free thinker.

I like what's, yeah, a classical liberal.

I'm a classic liberal.

I refuse to modify it with that term, though, because I think that the word liberal gets a bad rap, and I want to take it back.

Yeah, good for you.

Good for you.

Carlin, thank you so much.

Carlin Borisenko.

No, no, no, no.