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I want to talk to you

something

here, and I

am going to remain cryptic, and you'll understand why.

I will tell you as much as the story I feel comfortable,

and I would ask you,

those who are online and those who are so-called journalists, to leave my family alone.

But I just

want to share as much as I can because I want you to know that

you're not alone

because I think this is

the greater pandemic.

Let me give you a story.

Comes from the New York Times today.

Firmly linking teen suicides to school closings is difficult, but rising mental health emergencies and suicide rates point to the toll of the pandemic lockdown.

He felt disconnected, said the mother of a 14-year-old freshman in Las Vegas who expressed suicidal thoughts.

He felt left behind.

The reminder of pandemic-driven suffering among students in Clark County, Nevada have come in droves.

Since schools shut their doors in March, an early warning system that monitors students' mental health episodes has sent more than 3,100 alerts to distant officials raising alarms about suicidal thoughts, possible self-harm, or cries for care.

By December, 18 students had taken their own lives.

Now they're going back to school, Clark County.

They've decided this is worse than the COVID pandemic.

We have got to get these kids back in class.

I don't want to go into details.

but in the last

two months,

my family has experienced a

serious suicide attempt,

and there is nothing more frightening.

I can't imagine

it's not right

for a parent to survive their child.

And I don't want to live without any of them.

There are so many of us that don't have any idea what to do.

I'm a survivor of suicide from my mother.

We had another suicide in our family when I was probably about thirty.

This is different.

I believe those were from biology, genetics.

This is because our children

don't know

what to do.

They don't have friends.

Take yourself back to when you were 16.

What were you doing when you were 16?

When you were a teenager, it was your stand-by-me years.

It was the time when your friends got together and they went out and they did stuff, even just

going for walks outside.

We used to just

like a bunch of hoodlums,

just walk our neighborhoods, screw around,

talk,

discover, talk about your feelings, talk about girls.

They're not doing that now.

Imagine taking the prime years of your life and just having it gone.

Our children have developed high anxiety.

Our children are losing their skills to be able to relate to one another.

We don't really even look at one another anymore.

We don't, we can't, it's unit's,

it's,

it's not part of our human experience to talk to people for months on end wearing masks

The Academy of Pediatrics reported that as of December 3rd, children accounted for slightly more than zero percent of all COVID-19 cases, even fewer deaths, about 0.11%,

0.11%

in 160 total.

There are still 15 states with zero reported child deaths.

They don't even catch it as often.

They account for less than 2% of the total confirmed COVID-19 cases globally.

Even here in America, the nation with the highest infection rates, that number is the same, 2%.

And when they do catch it, the overwhelming majority of them experience either no symptoms or mild symptoms.

Another recent study found that compared to the flu, children play a minimal role in spreading COVID-19.

And most children who contract it actually get it from their parents.

So children rarely catch it, they almost never die, and they don't spread it.

Yet, according to the data from the CDC, the rate of children visiting emergency rooms has skyrocketed.

The number of 5 to 11-year-olds is 25% higher.

The rate of 12 to 17-year-olds going to the emergency room is 31% higher.

Why?

That number is due to mental health reasons.

I'm going to publish this monologue at Glembeck.com.

I have 11 studies.

We stopped posting them at 11.

According to a ton of stories and studies during the pandemic, children of all ages had high rates of depression, anxiety, post-traumatic symptoms, as expected in the aftermath of any disaster.

The reality is unequivocal.

The lockdowns and the quarantines are bad for our children.

Do you know there's a study out now that shows that our children,

our children, are going to be

years behind now?

My son

goes back to class today.

He is,

he loved class, was doing great last year.

Things were finally on track.

And he and his friends, they talk on the phone.

They spoke last night.

They don't want to go back, but they don't also want to stay home.

It's totally changed everything.

The reason why he doesn't want to go back is because the last time he went back before somebody had COVID,

this was in December, the last time he went back, there were like four kids in the class and they were in these plastic bubbles.

He said, I couldn't understand the teacher because she was wearing a mask.

I had to wear a mask.

We couldn't go anywhere.

We had to stay in the room.

We couldn't even go for lunch.

We couldn't sit together.

That's not healthy.

What are we doing to ourselves?

One study found children of all age groups showed more clinging, inattention, and irritability.

Three to six-year-olds were more likely to manifest clinginess and fear that family members might contract the infection.

Six to 18-year-olds were more likely to show inattention and persistent inquiry.

Another study found that in many households, children who end up staying indoors become restless and, in some cases, violent.

I know kids that don't want to go outside anymore.

They just don't want to go outside anymore.

My son told me this weekend, I don't want to leave the house.

My daughter's anxiety of being around people has gone through the roof.

What are we doing?

What are we doing to our children?

You know.

You know the truth.

You know the truth about how children contract it.

And if you don't, I'm posting this study.

85% of parents have noticed negative changes in their children's emotions and behavior since the pandemic.

In England, deaths by suicide among children increased after the first lockdown.

In Holland, a study found that young people reported a significant increase in severe anxiety and sleeping problems.

Does anybody else have a problem with their kids up at 3 o'clock in the morning?

Overwhelmingly, the research overwhelmingly

concludes that children should remain in school.

You are going to be the one that solves this.

You are going to be the one that is going to go to the school board,

to the school.

You are going to say, enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

If there is a teacher that is old and infirm, they should stay home.

If there is someone that is teaching and they're afraid, they should stay home.

Not our children.

I urge you, use this as your first step of standing up and getting involved.

I urge you

to stand up now and push back.

The time has long passed for us to do this.

We must do it now.

Get our schools opened.

We are paying with the lives of our children.

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I just

don't know if how,

you know, I said to my

blood pressure, my doctor was like,

you got to get your blood pressure.

And I'm like, okay, well, then I won't show up for work.

And it's true.

Every time I read the news, every time i come into work my blood pressure just shoots through the roof i've got to find some zen way of telling you about all the stuff that's going on i can't you used to have this problem solved back in the day with uh with your friend jack oh dr daniels dr

dr jack daniels page dr daniels dr jack daniels this solves all the problems it really does i wasted all of those blackouts i wasted all please kids don't drink Don't drink.

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Biden now says there's nothing the U.S.

can do to counteract COVID in the next several months.

Wait.

Hold on.

I don't understand what he means by that.

Does he mean that we are going to have deaths over the next several months?

I mean, yes, that's true, right?

We know these things get in the pipeline when you're having a couple hundred thousand cases a day.

Yeah, there's nothing we can do.

You can certainly decrease the amount of them, though.

To get to zero, yes, there's nothing we can do.

No, there's nothing we can do.

No, he says

there's nothing we can do.

There's nothing the U.S.

can do to counteract covid in the next several isn't he specifically doing a 100-day mask challenge what is the purpose of this if you can't well you got the mask challenge so you got the mask challenge and he's got that lofty goal of 100 million uh vaccinations in a hundred days the problem is we're now doing what was it friday we did 1.6 yeah we're now ahead of that pace yeah so i mean it's a lofty goal he'll see if he can cut it down he's gonna slow the rate of vaccination I mean, it's not.

By the way, Gretchen Whitmer eases restaurant restrictions right after the inauguration.

So we had that going for us.

Now, wait a minute.

The president, the new president is saying, there's nothing we can do.

I'm sorry, but you've lost your loved one.

Meanwhile, right after he's elected, Whitmer.

The king of the lockdowns.

I mean, outside of maybe

Gavin Newsome, I mean, I mean, Gavin is even doing it too.

Gavin is now coming out, and today he's supposed to say, you know what?

These restrictions, we're going to lift them.

We're going to lift them.

As of today, California is supposed to get that.

Wade, you hold it.

I haven't looked at California specifically here in a little while, but I mean, they have not exactly been at a low point as far as transmission goes

lately.

But he's saying it's time.

It's time to open these things up are you kidding me same thing with new york i mean cuomo was doing the same thing uh-huh saying hey we need to open these things up and it's like well have you looked at your state at all have you have you because i mean we are yeah i mean it's i guess it's maybe comfortable

of course i'll look at my state and it's a damn this

You know, I'm the mobster that is brilliant and at the same time

complete idiot.

So this is out of control.

Lock it down.

I think we should put more people in nursing homes

to be able to kill more, you know, grandmas and grips.

But at the same time, open it up.

We can't do this anymore.

Governor Cuomo, you again have rejected the release of the information.

That has been

multiple lawsuits have been filed to get the information about how many people are dead.

Are you calling me some sort of Italian slur name there?

No.

I think that's what I heard.

America's dumbest mobster.

My answer is just.

I mean, he's the one who's like, leave the gun.

Take the cannoli.

No, wait.

Take the cannoli.

Leave the gun.

No, wait.

Leave the cannoli.

Wait.

I don't know what to do do here.

Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.

Well, you should make decisions maybe a little faster.

Maybe a little faster.

I did that.

That's so why I put all those sick people in nursing homes.

That's why we say Andrew Cuomo was awful.

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We welcome to the program Mr.

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Hello, Pat.

Yeah.

Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

Oh,

perfect.

Just, I mean, so perfect.

You know, I'm so glad the media said over the weekend

CNN was talking about how Joe Biden, what he's doing is just boring.

I mean, he's just not doing anything.

He's just not doing anything that's exciting or, you know, controversial.

Right.

Like, there are just 19 boring executive orders.

Exactly.

And they're all like,

such a maybe you should order more paperclips.

Yeah.

You know, exactly.

And who cares about paperclips?

Except for the fact that none of them are about paperclips.

They're about things like the border.

Right.

Jeez.

Right.

Well, just release all.

All people that ICE has in custody.

Yeah.

All of them.

No big deal.

Yeah.

Just all of them.

Yeah.

not everybody.

It's not like he's releasing.

Well, he is releasing all of them.

Yes, he is.

But he's not releasing more than all of them.

No.

That would be controversial.

Yes, but this isn't.

This isn't.

Nope.

He's also inspired caravans again.

So we got.

Yes.

We have that going on.

We had one of 8,000 last week that was broken up a little bit.

We have another one of 3,000 that launched again, like yesterday.

That's great.

That's only

11,000 people people that are headed.

I think it's wonderful.

Hey, by the way,

did you hear that Jeff Bezos and Amazon, little upset?

Yeah, I did hear.

Yeah, little upset.

They're trying to unionize Amazon, and he doesn't like that.

I mean, when you got a corporation like Amazon that's working well,

why not throw a little bit of the postal service in there with it?

You know what I mean?

Let's get a couple of really good unions in there.

So

Amazon

has just filed with the National Labor Relations Board because the unions said what we're going to do, because it's so huge, instead of having a meeting where everybody votes, what we'll do is we'll have mail-in ballots.

And

Bezos doesn't like that because

he says mail-in voting, there's too much of a risk of fraud by the labor unions.

Yeah, the only way it can be valid and fair is to have an in-person voting system.

Right.

Well, not only that, not only that.

He said

concerns about election security run particularly high because we don't have a reliable electronic signature platform.

Hmm.

Hmm.

So Amazon doesn't have that.

That's interesting.

Sorry, throw that in.

I mean, again, some of the stuff gets out of with the election was, you know, crazy, but the one they keep saying, like, will we check the signatures?

It's like I buy things every day and they supposedly check the signatures.

Like, they don't even look at my signature when I sign a credit card receipt for thousands of dollars.

They don't even care.

Like, they check the signatures.

I mean, I'm not saying they don't go through a check, but like, how reliable is that check?

I have literally signed it mickey mouse at times i really have yeah i signed one jesus at one point they just to see just to see nope i just i actually signed it jesus mccool

nothing nothing i i i sent my kid up there the other day to buy lunch with my credit card and they gave it to him Like, he's not, he didn't get the credit card.

He's nine.

Like, they don't care.

He's on his cell phone, American Express.

I know.

I know.

I wrote the check.

I don't know why it's not there for last month's payment.

I just need lunch today.

Tim Matheson,

for some reason.

Now, Tim Matheson is the guy.

Remember him?

Do you know who he is?

Yeah.

He's the guy from National Lampoons.

Animal House.

Animal House.

Yeah, right.

He was otter

in that.

Right.

And

what he's been doing since is.

Oh, it's terrific stuff.

Right.

Whatever it is.

So anyway, I've seen all of his film.

Yeah.

Oh.

So

he tweeted out, so wonderful to have a first lady with class

and heart

and can speak English.

Oh.

Yeah.

Melania Trump.

What a dummy.

She only speaks five languages.

Yeah, only five.

She's only fluent in five

and no class.

Did you

You see her out sitting on the washer and dryer that she put on the back porch of the White House, sitting there with a crop top, and she's sitting there just drinking a Budweiser.

And I thought, could we get some class?

Wouldn't it be nice?

Wouldn't it?

But no.

No, no.

She had a supermodel in the White House, and they hated her guts for four years for no apparent reason whatsoever.

Is there any first lady that had more class class than Melania Trump?

Not that I can think of.

She was always class.

I think Jackie O would be the only one that I could think of that was

in her category.

Yeah.

Jackie O had real class.

But, you know, I was at the White House and I'm in the Rose Garden.

Remember when she redid the Rose Garden?

Yeah.

And what did they say?

They said she ruined it, that it was ridiculous.

It was terrible.

Do you know what she did?

Because I was standing in the rose garden.

It is beautiful.

You know what she did?

No, not exactly.

Yeah, she

restored it to the exact plan of Jackie O.

They had changed it since.

So all she did was like, I think Jackie O had the right plan, and they restored it to the Jackie O plan.

And that was classless.

Unbelievable.

I mean, it's.

It's unbelievable.

I just.

But the class of Dr.

Jill Biden.

Wow.

Now that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

San Francisco hotels are being used to house homeless people.

And there's a new executive order that has just been signed by Joe Biden.

It's so boring.

I shouldn't even read it to you.

Under the order, certain kinds of emergency housing for the homeless are eligible to be fully reimbursed through September.

Now,

not sure

if this executive order,

if this emergency will

fit this executive order, but I'm guessing it does.

So now we are going to be paying

for the hotel rooms of the homeless in San Francisco.

I have to ask you, do you have a line anywhere?

Do you have a line on taxes where it's just like, okay, okay, no.

Because I almost feel like that's taxation without representation because I'm paying for programs in California.

I don't get any representation in California.

Why am I paying for policies that I vehemently disagree with in California?

California should have to pay their own bill.

I don't live in California for a reason.

I live in Texas for a reason.

You know, Texas brought home all of its own gold.

We have our own gold reserve now.

We finally got it out of the Federal Reserve.

It took us five years, but we got it.

And now we have all of our own gold reserves.

I did that for a reason, because Texas knew this ain't going to last.

Is Texas, why does Texas have to pay for the nonsense in California?

Is it just me?

Because I feel this way about why am I...

If they're using federal funds, then no, that's, I mean, that's completely wrong.

These ideas.

Why

Madison did not want this to be the outcome, right?

Where we just send a bunch of money to the federal government and it distributes it all over the country, all over the country.

Correct.

The opposite of the model.

Right.

And it's, and they're doing it in California.

They're going to do it with, and if it's executive order,

do I really have representation there?

Because they're spending money through executive order.

It's supposed to go through Congress.

But even if it does go through Congress,

I don't have any representation in California.

Who's the one going to hold the budget for us?

Who's going to be the one that holds the feet to the fire?

Who's going to make sure that California has some austerity instead of just continuing to spend money?

I mean, I just think we are setting ourselves up for massive problems because when

new york fails which it will when illinois fails which it will

i have no problem helping a neighbor but not the neighbors who have been living it up not the neighbors who are like you guys are so stupid

party

i why would i help them i i think new york will probably be fine because I just imagine the sales of the poster that Andrew Cuomo made celebrating good what a good job he did on coronavirus.

Those are probably selling so much that he can just pay off all the budget problems with that.

And or his book.

Just

the book about what a great job he did with the coronavirus that was released just as they went to the highest peak they've had since the beginning of the day.

By the way, speaking of more problems, 7,000 National Guardsmen are going to remain in Washington through mid-March now.

7,000.

So D.C.

is essentially an occupied city then.

I guess.

I guess that's what

I guess.

That's great.

That's what they said Trump wanted to do to Portland, make it an occupied city.

Now we have 7,000 National Guardmen and DeSantis is calling them back.

He's like, you're not keeping any of my National Guard mid-March.

I mean, I understand that maybe the next day they don't leave because that would be kind of an obvious cue to everyone if there was going to be a problem.

But mid-March, I mean,

what's the limiting argument here?

Why would you send them home in mid-March?

Then the people are going to come in April, right?

Like, there's no limiting principle here to stop this.

So, DeSantis is pulling the troops back.

So is Texas.

Yeah, they're going to lose.

All the red states are going to be like, no,

we're not an everlasting occupying force in Washington, D.C.

And they're making them sleep in parking garages now.

They moved them out of the marbled floors of the Capitol building and put them in a parking garage.

No, they said that the National Guard asked for that.

A bold crap.

I'd say that's bold.

No, they said that they wanted the

girls.

We want to sleep in a parking garage.

It's more comfortable for them.

We'd hate to be in a hotel.

Put us in a parking garage.

I mean, please.

Please, we don't want to go to a hotel.

That's for the homeless.

Right.

We'd rather sleep in the garage.

Jeez.

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Why is Pat laughing?

I don't know.

He's probably telling himself a joke.

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I'm just thinking about something from my show.

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So I want to ask you a question.

We have a Jeet Pai coming on, and many people will not know who Jeet Pai is,

but you should.

He was the FCC chairman under Donald Trump.

I have done broadcasts for 45 years.

I think he is the best FCC chair ever.

He understands freedom of speech.

He understood, I think, the

Internet questions.

Saved the Internet, arguably.

Yeah, he did from net neutrality.

Saved it.

I mean, who knows what's going to happen next, but at least he let us have a few years here.

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He's coming up in just a few minutes on freedom of speech.

Here's a question that I have

for you.

What does freedom of speech guarantee?

Freedom of speech, the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom to petition your government, right?

What does that mean?

Where do you draw the line on that?

For instance, there's a story, man charged in Capitol riot, barred from commenting about matters related to the U.S.

government online.

He's a guy who lives in Kentucky.

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Capitol, and he's been told

he can no longer make any comments about the breach or the U.S.

government online.

I don't see how that's possible under the First Amendment.

He was released.

No, he was released on bond.

This is the court ruling.

Yeah.

Which barred him from using the internet or anything else to talk about the government

or any kind of rallies like this.

Yeah, like

I don't think that's possible.

Like when you have, every once in a while, there'll be a case where a guy is selling shady supplements that he says do things that it doesn't do, that they don't do.

And he'll get in trouble for that, get sued.

And part of the punishment will be he can no longer operate in the arena of selling supplements, right?

However, these guys, without fail, go on to write books about supplements because you can't stop them from talking.

It's a free speech issue.

It's a first amendment.

This is free speech specifically about questioning your government.

And I don't like any of his speech.

I mean, you know, he was like, we got to start a revolution.

I don't like any of it.

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The government does not have a right to say you can no longer speak about the U.S.

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I believe he saved the internet.

I believe he's the best FCC commissioner we've had in the entire time that I have done broadcast.

He is the guy who has been protecting freedom of speech through the FCC.

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Do you have the right to do that?

What is our future?

Ajit Pai, the former FCC chairman, joins me in 60 seconds.

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It's an honor to have Ajit Pai on with us again, former FCC chairman.

Ajit, how are you?

Is he there?

Ajit.

My gosh, they've silenced him already.

Hey, Glenn, how are you?

There you are.

Thank you for having me on.

You bet.

How are you, sir?

Pretty good.

Pretty good.

Hope you're doing well also on this Monday morning.

So you were the chairman of the FCC.

Before that, you were the commissioner at the FCC.

You were appointed then by Barack Obama

and approved unanimously by the Senate.

So everybody agreed that you were a good guy that could get the job done.

You've done some amazing things.

I believe that you and

when you were at the FCC, those involved with you, saved the Internet from net neutrality.

Tell me about the health of the Internet and where we are today because of those challenges before we look to the future.

Well, the Internet, in terms of its infrastructure, is stronger than ever.

And this is remarkable when you consider that when we made our decision to repeal these heavy-handed net neutrality regulations back in 2017, the left was caterwalling about how this was the death of the Internet as we know it.

That was according to Bernie Sanders.

Others said the Internet would slow down to one word per time.

Others said that you'd have to pay $15 per month just to be able to tweet.

All of these things have fallen by the wayside.

Speeds are now twice as fast as they were back in 2017.

Internet infrastructure has been built out so that millions more Americans have access.

Obviously, it's a much different environment than those hyperbolic predictions would have suggested.

And to me, at least, the proof and the pudding has been during the pandemic,

our Internet infrastructure has held up despite the increase in traffic.

Whereas in Europe, which still has these net neutrality regulations, they had to go hand in hand to companies like Netflix and YouTube and beg them to throttle content because they don't have the infrastructure that's necessary to sustain these loads.

So we made the right decision, and I'm glad we did.

So are you still hearing the voices, were those forces still out there for net neutrality and to bring some of these regulations back?

And if so, why?

You know, I'd say we still hear them all the time.

Whenever I'm on social media, I see it.

And it's incredible.

I think it's more of a religious issue with some folks on the left.

And

what does that mean?

What do you mean by that?

Because what I mean by religious issue is there is literally no set of evidence you can ever provide to these people to persuade them that there's not a problem.

Look at the last three years without these net neutrality regulations.

We haven't seen any kind of market failure.

We haven't seen broadband providers throttling or blocking content.

Nonetheless, they say that these rules are absolutely vital and the internet's about to die.

Meanwhile, these very same advocates are going to the tech giants and telling them, we want you to censor content that we don't like.

And so the hypocrisy of these advocates is just stunning.

It's just, as I said, there's literally no evidence we could provide.

in terms of faster speeds, more infrastructure,

open internet, all that kind of stuff that would persuade them.

And so it's not a reasoned policy debate anymore, at least in some quarters at least.

It's much more of an issue of religion.

Do you believe or do you not?

And that's unfortunate because after all, we're making policy here.

We're not putting our finger in the wind.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

But as you mentioned, there's no evidence you can present.

But the evidence is there, right?

Like the speeds have gone up dramatically since they promised they would slow down to a trickle.

Yeah, and that's the incredible thing.

I mean, the speed is the most objective one.

There's a group called OOKLA, O-O-K-L-A.

It's an independent company.

They do their own assessments of speeds.

They were the ones who were saying, hey, the speeds are tracking upward and upward.

And I kept pointing this out to some of our critics, and they would say, well, the speeds were going up anyway, and so you didn't have responsibility for that.

I said, no, no, if you look at the Fed, February 28th, I think it is, 2018, the entire Senate Democratic caucus put this out on Twitter.

If we lose net neutrality, you'll get the internet one word at a time.

And so I said, look, that is objectively false.

There's no debate about this.

This Internet did not slow down.

And nonetheless, there's still some folks who say, no, it's still at risk.

Broadband providers are going to start censoring content any day now.

And it it's there it's always the sort of boogeyman that's right around the corner that we have to regulate against as opposed to the concrete problems that we can see on the internet, which is not any type of uh stuff like this.

It's more that people in rural areas don't have access or people in urban areas can't afford access.

I mean those are the types of problems we need to be addressing, not this phantom of net neutrality, which to me at least is a solution that won't work and to address a problem that simply doesn't exist.

It is 5G has been described to me as 4G being the size of a garden hose and 5G being the size of a chunnel for

all of the information.

I know my wife just,

I don't remember where she was, but she used real 5G.

And

she never comments on on speed unless it's really, really slow.

And she said to me, oh my gosh, Glenn, you can't imagine how fast it was.

It was just like, load,

load, load, load.

It was just there every time.

Go ahead.

Can you describe 5G and what it will mean and how far we are away from that really being everywhere?

I'm really excited about 5G, this next generation of wireless connectivity.

And unlike some of the predecessor transitions we've had, you you know, 1G to 2G, 2 to 3, 3 to 4, 5G is going to be a leap, partly because of the speeds.

You mentioned that, 100 times faster speeds than 4G, a much more responsive network, so when you click on the link, it'll come up almost immediately.

But it's more the fact that this technology will underlie all kinds of different industries.

Healthcare, for example, if you want to do a telehealth visit with your doctor, much higher resolution video, much lower latency, as they call it, so you can immediately see what the the doctor is looking at and all that kind of thing.

It's going to be tremendous.

5G with doctors means because the latency goes from

what, 100 milliseconds to down under 10,

which means in some cases you might be able to actually do surgery on the other side of the world with 5G.

Exactly right.

I mean that is the future that's within grasp.

And if you think about all these low latency applications from telehealth to gaming to you name it, that's a really big deal.

So I'm really excited about the work that the FCC did over the last four years to help that potential become a reality here in the United States.

So I just bought a refrigerator the other day, and it said Bluetooth-enabled.

And I'm like, I don't want my refrigerator to be Bluetooth-enabled.

The amount of information that is going to be going out of our homes now with 5G, because

5G allows everything to be smart, a smart item.

Are you concerned at all about privacy and

just the use of all of this information on the American people?

Absolutely.

And this is why many years ago I called on Congress to come up with legislation on the federal level to establish rules of the road for privacy in the digital world.

We don't have that right now.

And so what you see is some states like California taking the lead and essentially regulating on their own within that state.

Or you see Europe implementing very strong privacy regulations.

And essentially multinational companies like Google and Facebook abide by those same restrictions in the US just as they would in Europe because you can't have different privacy protections

across the world.

So I think right now it would be great for Congress to sit down and put on the page some of those basic privacy protections.

But the other issue related to privacy is security, Glenn.

I mean as you know, as everything gets connected, the network is only going to be strong as its most vulnerable point.

And we're talking about 5G and security.

There are companies like Huawei and ZTE, other companies in this space that could look to compromise some of our networks for their own gain, whether it's economic espionage or inserting malware, or even more insidiously, the Chinese Communist Party looking to compromise security of networks to gain insights on where our national security is vulnerable.

Well, people would say that blockchain is going to be really important for our security, but when we're at, you know,

what is it, 56 qubit

quantum computing, even blockchain is vulnerable, isn't it?

I mean, now that we're getting into quantum

computing so fast,

how are we going to be able to keep things secure?

That's a really good question.

And that's part of the reason why a few months ago, before I left, I asked the FCC to organize a forum around quantum computing to understand what this future looks like.

And I don't pretend to have the answer to your question, but I do think it's important for the U.S.

government to start thinking about quantum and AI and machine learning and some of these blockchain, these next-generation technologies.

It might seem futuristic, but

the future can become the present a lot quicker than people think.

One more question on privacy before we move on.

Has anyone suggested that all of my information

belongs to me?

It's mine.

And if I decide to sell it, then I will make that decision.

And I'd make my decision on what parts of it I'd be willing to sell.

This would not only throttle these giant companies that are truly getting rich off of the backs of all of us through metadata and now really amazingly detailed data on each of us.

But it would also

return our privacy.

It would punish the the googles of the world financially by taking that incentive away from them.

But they could buy it from us, which would also be something that the American people could make money on.

Is anybody suggesting that?

I have seen that suggestion in some quarters.

In fact, I think there might be some legislative proposals floating around Congress along those lines.

So I think that's one of the things that people instinctively get is that the property right they might have, so to speak, in their own data is something that should be vindicated.

Now, on the other hand, there are some who have raised some questions about that.

For example, if you're walking along a road

and you have a smart network, transportation network that is monitoring how traffic is going so that they can avoid hitting pedestrians and the like, is that your data?

Does it also involve some public safety issues?

I mean, there's some sort of gray areas there, but I do think there's a lot to sort out in this.

What is your data?

Who owns it?

How should it be used?

These are the kinds of things that Congress needs to speak to.

We don't have a framework right now for understanding that, and we need one desperately.

I look at the bottom of my Alexa, and I see that it has an FCC license

on it, and

I wonder if...

In some ways, this isn't, and I know this sounds ridiculous, but hear me out, a violation of the Third Amendment, which is the government can't quarter soldiers in your home.

I feel as though the government isn't, but if they start to collude more and more with these companies, they kind of are.

Aren't they quartering people?

Not the government, but these companies, aren't they kind of quartering people in our home if they are constantly going and listening to us and gathering information?

I haven't thought about that, Engel.

I will say, though, just so you know, the SEC logo you see on the bottom, we're not licensing them.

All we do is essentially authorize their equipment to say any device in the United States that emits or receives radio frequency or RF, we have a responsibility to okay it.

So we actually don't license those particular devices directly.

But I do think it's interesting that a lot of us rely on these devices.

You pick up a lot of our conversations and they deliver a lot of value, but I think some people also have the concern,

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And so

that's one of the things, too, that it's just a new world.

This didn't exist when I was a kid, needless to say,

when you were inside the confines of your home, that was sort of this impregnable fortress, so to speak,

your own thoughts and data.

So it's a much more complicated world now because of technology.

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He's the former FCC chairman,

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We're talking to Ajit Pai.

He's the former FCC chairman.

He was appointed by Barack Obama and

served under Trump as well.

I think he's the best chairman that the FCC has ever had.

And he also is somebody who I think really, because of his passion, has saved the Internet from net neutrality.

And we've seen how good the Internet has become.

You spoke earlier about when you were talking about hypocrisy, about the kind of controversy about big tech companies censoring conservative voices generally.

And obviously, we have a right for free speech.

We don't necessarily have a right to an audience on someone's private website.

As someone who's a conservative and is very scared of a federal intrusion on the internet,

I am worried about this sort of new idea from the right where there's a big debate going on whether the government should step in and do something to these big tech companies.

Where do you stand on that?

Well, where I stand is what I've said for many years, which is that these tech giants increasingly are running social platforms that have become the new public square.

And to the extent that some are either obstructed or prevented from speaking in that square, I think it's important for people to understand how are these decisions being made,

who is making these decisions, and why.

And I think the past couple of months have only illustrated the fact we don't have any insight here.

And for me, at least as a consumer, I don't care whether it's a network operator like your internet service provider or a content company like a tech platform.

I just want to know, am I able to speak or not?

Am I able to read what I want or not?

And if I want to understand the rules of the road, and I think that kind of lack of transparency is what's frustrating a lot of people.

Nobody knows what's inside the black spot.

So here's the deal.

I've done broadcasts for 45 years.

I know what the rules are.

I know what the FCC says.

I know what's acceptable and not because the rules are very, very clear.

Always have been.

When we get blocked or we get dinged by some of these high-tech companies, we usually don't know why.

So

I can't make sure that we're in compliance if I don't know what it means to be in compliance.

Exactly right.

And that's why some of the decisions seem to be made as they go along.

I pointed this out last summer when I asked on Twitter, why is the supreme leader of Iran allowed to tweet out threats, especially

urging the destruction of the, as he called it, the Zionist state and all of this nonsense?

Whereas other people are not allowed to say things which are clearly not as far as that, don't go as far as that.

And I think it just goes back to, you know, like I said, in November 2017, I gave a speech where I said, if you are really concerned about a free and open Internet, what you need to be worried about is not net neutrality, it's the question of how these tech platforms operate, free from any transparency requirements whatsoever.

And I think people on the left and the right now, I would think, agree with that.

Ajit, people,

I've never seen this before.

People in this industry, both radio and online, are extraordinarily concerned about losing our

place, our platform, our ability.

to broadcast or even narrow cast.

I want to talk to you about the future and what we should be concerned about,

who are are the new players, if you know anything about them, and what we should be doing.

Back with more

from Ajit Pie.

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We have Jeet Pai, the former FCC chairman and commissioner, former commissioner as well of the FCC.

He was appointed by Barack Obama.

He served

under Donald Trump.

And I think he is phenomenal on freedom of speech and regulation being minimal.

Let the free market work things out.

Thank you, first of all, for everything that you've done, Ajit, to keep the internet free and to keep our voices intact.

I want to talk to you about something that is really disturbing.

Now, this is from

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard.

So she's on the left.

She said this weekend: it is so dangerous.

This is an issue that Democrats, Republicans, and independents, libertarians should be extremely concerned about, especially because we don't have to guess about where this goes or how it ends.

When you have people like former CIA Director John Brennan openly talking about how he has spoken with or heard from employees or nominees in the Biden administration who are already starting to look across our country for types of movements similar to the insurgencies they've seen overseas that in his words

make up this unholy alliance of religious extremists racist bigots he lists a few others and at the end even libertarians

it's dangerous because of our civil civil liberties it will mean that

who could be scooped up tomorrow we don't know i am very concerned about the freedom of speech on broadcast radio and the freedom of speech for those of us, not just the average man, but also those of us who they're talking about deprogramming or licensing to be able to

have a podcast.

It's an unfortunate time for those of us who cherish free speech and the First Amendment.

And that's part of the reason why I've been so steadfast in my defense of it, because I do think a defining feature of our democracy is that any faction that happens to be in power should not have the ability to define who is allowed into the public square and who is not.

And I think that's a basic tenet of American democracy over the decades.

I may disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

I think that understanding has become frayed.

And I think the First Amendment is even more important when we have a tribalistic political culture like we have now, because we don't want your ability to speak to depend on whether or not you are in favor with those in power.

So I don't know what particular information Mr.

Brennan was relying on when he made those assessments, but I'll just simply say as a general matter, the First Amendment is important for all of us, even when we disagree with the message that we might be hearing over the airwaves.

Are you concerned

that the next FCC

commissioner and chairman

will erode some of these freedoms for radio.

Are we in radio in a safe zone or not?

I certainly hope so.

I mean, I did everything I could over the last four years, last eight, since I served at the FCC, to make sure that radio had the ability to thrive into the next century.

It's the oldest communications medium addressing the mass market that we've got.

It's older than the FCC itself.

And to me, at least, I think it is one of the important forums for discussion of these types of issues.

So I hope that the next FCC will embrace that.

I'm a little more worried about what people will think on the digital side of things, you know, over the Internet and the like, where, as I said, you have net neutrality advocates demanding certain types of regulations, but then on the other hand, demanding censorship on the Internet, which seems inconsistent with that.

But hopefully radio can continue to be one of the places where we do still embrace that First Amendment value that all of us cherish.

Do you know anything about the people that are coming in behind you?

Yes, I serve with all the four of the current commissioners who are there, including the acting chair.

So, you know, I do think they have a shared commitment to public service, to the public interest.

I think they believe in the First Amendment just as much as I do.

So hopefully they will stick by that.

That's been a bipartisan tradition at the FCC.

And I think the most dangerous thing would be for us to get back into the game of approving licenses or doling out favors based on whether we agree with the political views of the would-be license holder.

And that's just not what the FCC should be doing.

It should be a market-based, objective decision, not trying to look into a crowd and pick out your friends.

I want to read a story to you and just ask you your opinion on this.

And I warn you that I find what this man did and said to be disgusting and despicable.

But

there's a sentence that had just been handed down that I cannot believe is

constitutional.

A federal judge has ordered a Kentucky man who allegedly stormed the U.S.

Capitol earlier this month not to make any comments about the breach or the U.S.

government online.

Damon Michael Beckley, who was arrested by the FBI in Cubrun last week, was released on conditional bond, which barred him from using the internet to post about the rally, the Capitol riot rally, or matters related to the U.S.

government.

He He was also prohibited from attending any rallies, protests, or demonstrations, and he must be now monitored by GPS.

He said things online like Vice President Pence, my name is Damon Michael Beckley.

I don't appreciate this one bit, the situation you caused here, sir.

We're not putting up with this tyrannical rule.

If we've got to come back here and start a revolution and take all these traders out, which should be done, then we will.

I don't agree with that.

I think that's abhorrent speech.

But isn't this, as a federal judge, telling him he can't speak about the government or voice his opinion about the government online?

Isn't that a violation of the Constitution?

And isn't there any protection for him?

Well, I certainly share your assessment of the comments themselves.

This is an area of the law that's pretty well developed and one that I'm unfortunately not as knowledgeable about, about whether or not judges can restrain the speech in this way.

So I probably had to defer until I'd had a chance to read the brief, study up on that area of the law a little better.

I know that this is something that has occurred in a number of cases, and I'd want to express more informed opinion after reading all that stuff.

Tell me, before we let you go, tell me

the thing that keeps you up at night, and tell me the thing that you see over the horizon that really excites you.

Well, in terms of what keeps me up at night, it is the security of our networks.

I spent a lot of time over the last four years here domestically making sure the FCC did everything we could to secure our networks against national security threats from the outside.

In particular, I've been very outspoken about the Chinese Communist Party's determination to dominate the world through technology and, in particular, to lead in 5G.

And that's something I think

we should all be worried about.

Hang on just a second.

People don't believe me when I say there is a building, I think it's in Beijing, dedicated.

All it is is the Communist Party.

It's their platform of hackers, and they are hacking in and trying to hack into our Pentagon.

I can't remember.

It's some ungodly number of like 70,000 attempts a day or something like that.

I mean,

they have groups of people that this is their job to hack into our infrastructure.

True or not?

We've heard similar reports, and I think that's part of the concern.

And not only that, I mean, they've demonstrated that they they are willing to export their anti-democratic values when it comes to things like the NBA or Taiwanese flag emojis or the like imagine what they would would be willing to do if they had access to our telecom networks that is a serious threat indeed so why

explain that for people who don't understand that well so imagine if we had all these 5G networks built in the United States everyone was using them on everything from smartphones to connected refrigerators to your cars to military installations and let's say some of that equipment was built by the companies like Huawei and ZTE, which are themselves subject to Chinese Communist Party rule.

So what if the Chinese Communist Party said, you know what, we just want to see exactly how American consumers are using broadband.

Let's see how broadband around military installations is being deployed and whether we can get insights into things like troop movements or missile placements.

I mean all these kinds of things would be simply one request away from the Chinese government to Huawei and ZTE and we would have no way of ever knowing that those requests had been made and that our networks had been compromised.

And I think that is the risk.

And that's why I've been so outspoken about the fact that I'm very bullish on 5G's potential, but we also need to think about security as a forethought as opposed to an afterthought.

Once we've installed these networks, it's too late.

You just can't put that genie back in the bottle.

So we need to be very careful about this threat and

not have a rosy-eyed view of the reality of the situation.

Aaron Powell, final question for you.

Wait, wait, wait.

Well, you you asked the final question, then I want to hear his optimistic thing.

Okay.

Well, I was just going to ask, my passwords are all set to 12345.

Should I change any of them?

Yeah, I would definitely urge you to change that, Nia.

Don't change it to password either.

That's the one that I think is

probably not as well advised.

Mine's password 0.12345.

Oh, that's really cool.

Anyway, tell me what you're excited about.

Tell me what's on the horizon that you say people don't understand how game-changing in a positive way, this could be?

I think what I'm really excited about is just a new influx of broadband-based technologies.

You know, when I got into this business, broadband essentially meant telephone lines being souped up with TSL to deliver relatively slow service.

Now, at the end of my tenure at the FCC, we've authorized low-Earth orbit satellites, companies like SpaceX, to deploy broadband from space at a really high speed.

We've also encouraged electric utilities to get into this business since they have a deep footprint across rural America.

We've encouraged, we've had a huge influx of spectrum thanks to our decisions that allow fixed wireless companies to enter the space.

I guess all of which what I'm trying to say is all of these different technologies are finally being unleashed through the power of the market to deliver connectivity to American citizens.

And to me, at least, broadband is more important than ever.

And I'm really excited to see how all these companies using all these technologies are able to innovate for the benefit of consumers.

It's going to be a really exciting decade to come in that regard.

Are you at all concerned?

I mean, I was going to ask you what's next for you, but you were appointed by Obama, but you actually

served also under Donald Trump, and they're going after anybody that served with Donald Trump.

You concerned about your future and what's next for you?

No, we had the privilege of being an independent agency, and I led in that spirit.

I kept all the political nonsense in Washington at arm's length to the extent I could and did the best I could.

And I think on a lot of the issues, they didn't have a partisan chain at all.

For example, establishing 988 as a three-digit number for suicide prevention and mental health, making sure people with disabilities had access to technology.

I mean, the bulk of our work was pretty non-partisan.

So as for what the next adventure is, I'll have to wait and see.

But one of the things I've found in my career is that it's just such an amazing country that you just work hard and you try to be in the right place at the right time and something will present itself to you.

So I'm so grateful for the privilege of having the chance to serve and look forward to the next adventure being just as intellectually stimulating and rewarding.

Jeet, I would love to do a long-form

interview with you on our podcast.

I've got a lot of

questions on security and

technology that is coming.

I would love to pick your brain.

So if you have time some point, I'd love to have you as a podcast guest.

Well, sounds good.

I'd love to talk about it.

Let's figure out what won't work.

And again, thank you for your service.

You've been great at the FCC.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Well, I can't say enough how much I appreciate the kind words, Glenn.

I really appreciate the support from everybody out there in the country.

Thank you.

God bless.

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I would like to challenge you to

find

the hand of God

in your life every day.

Find something where you feel like that was a miracle.

Because miracles are happening and

they're amazing.

What's going on right now, we can look at all of the bad things or we can look at some of the good things that are happening.

I told you last summer, I think,

and said that we would find out early next year about a study that was being done in Israel that could cure

blindness.

Now, there's

several reasons people go blind, but one is because their cornea just blows out.

The cornea blindness

looks like it's at an end.

I told you about this story from a company in Israel last summer, and they were putting a artificial cornea into a man who is 78 years old.

He hasn't seen for forever because the film just grows over.

It's not glaucoma.

It's a cornea thing.

And

they said, we just have to replace and then we'll see.

They took the bandages off

and he can see crystal clear again.

Artificial cornea.

When you were blind from this before, you needed a cornea

donor.

So you needed, you were on a waiting list, just like a kidney and everything else.

No more.

No more.

That's a third of the people in the world that are blind are blind because of this.

A third.

That's incredible.

And it's over now.

That is great news.

Really great news.

That is great news.

It comes from Israel.

Yeah.

I'm watching with,

I'm fascinated by Israel right now because they're essentially running a giant human experiment and human experiments on Jews.

The history of that is not particularly large.

But it is in Jerusalem or it's in Israel, right?

It's in Israel, Germany.

Right, yes, okay, so it's better.

They've got about over 40% of their population vaccinated already for COVID.

Over 40% of the population.

We're at 6% right now.

So we're going to see.

It's a smaller population.

Right, but the point is, though, if it works, we're going to see it work there before we go down the road.

And the opposite, if for some reason it doesn't work out as expected, we're going to see it there.

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So Rand Paul

had, I mean, I personally think that this is,

you know, was

great exchanges with

Rand Paul.

He was on with George Stephanopoulos

and

George said,

let me begin with this threshold question.

This election was not stolen.

Do you accept that fact?

And Rand said, well, I would say there's debate whether or not there was fraud and whether it occurred.

We've never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence.

Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question.

There were several states in which the law was changed by the Secretary of State and not the state legislature.

To me, those are clearly unconstitutional, and I think there's still a chance that those actually do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court.

Courts traditionally and historically don't like to hear election questions, but yes,

were there people who voted twice?

Were there dead people who voted?

Were there illegal aliens who voted?

See, I told you they were going to come out about the UFOs.

He's just saying this like, it's no big deal.

Legal aliens voted.

Of course, they're illegal.

They're from another planet.

We need voter ID like crazy.

And yes, we should get to the bottom of it.

I'll give you an example.

In my state, we had a Democratic Secretary of State.

She refused even under a federal order to purge the rolls of illegal voters.

We got a Republican Secretary of State and he purged the rolls.

This is when Stephanopoulos said, I got to stop you there.

No election is perfect, but there were 86 challenges filed by the Trump administration and his allies in court.

All were dismissed.

Every state certified their results.

And then they talked over each other for a while.

And Paul said, George, where you make a mistake is that people coming in from the liberal side, like you, you immediately say everything's a lie

instead of saying there are two sides to everything.

Historically, what would happen is if I said I thought there was fraud, you would interview someone else who said there wasn't.

But now you just insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie.

I think this is the root of the problem.

These journalists have deemed themselves to be arbiters of the truth.

And the truth is, it may not have changed the election, but there were enough regularities that we should look into it, not to change the outcome of the election at this point.

There's nothing in the Constitution that would allow that.

but to make sure that all of the other elections that are coming don't have the same kind of problem.

And I love the fact that Jeff Bezos is now against mail-in voting when it is in regards to his company receiving ballots through the mail on whether or not it should be unionized or not.

He says the signature verification isn't strong enough.

Really, Jeff?

Because that's not what the Washington Post said when we were talking about the election of a president.

But this is the real problem is it's one side or the other, and it's one side that says the other is wrong always.

Well, that's not true.

That's just not true.

In this case, in particular,

there is a possibility that there was enough to sway the election.

There's also the possibility that there wasn't enough to steal the election.

But we don't know which it is.

And more importantly, I just want to know where the flaws were so we don't make them again.

And I think, too, one of the biggest parts of this is making sure the rules are set up in a way that are fair and that people can trust.

You know,

it's like you could make the argument that last year LeBron James stole the championship.

Now, I wouldn't make this argument, of course.

I'm an objective person and have nothing to do with him.

You have no evidence.

If you have tape ready to pull up of me saying I don't like LeBron James, go ahead and do it.

But you obviously don't have that tape ready.

I mean, you have the I hate LeBronJames.com.

Well, yeah, but that's just, you know, I'm just, I'm just

investments.

Well, yeah, that's separately.

But like the rule, because of COVID, right, they changed the rules of the NBA, which was to give an old player who was playing a lot of minutes and a very important part of the team a three-month break in the middle of the season to relax and get his energy up for a playoff run.

Is that a stolen championship?

No.

But did those rule changes really benefit LeBron James?

Of course.

So the same thing, you know, you could argue here.

A lot of these changes were made before the election.

LeBron James is worse than Hitler.

Oh, well, you're not going to get an argument from me on that one.

No, well, okay, maybe, maybe technically.

But I mean, again, you know,

potatoes, potatoes.

But what I, what,

I guess I don't like LeBron James.

My point, though, is that like

some of these changes happened before the election took place, and those changes in the rules

gave an advantage to Joe Biden.

That's different than saying that, like, Dominion voting machines were changing votes on the fly.

That's saying that, like, these rules need to be put out in a way that make it fair for everybody, and that both sides can trust the results.

Right.

Obviously, COVID is a weird circumstance.

Everybody knows that this was a strange year for an election for every other thing that happened during the year.

But going forward, we don't have to act as if we're on a panic footing all the time.

For instance, we didn't know if anybody was ever going to be able to even go to the polls because of COVID.

You know, back in the summer, like, we may be locked in the house and not be able to do it.

What do we do?

Mail in voting.

Now, I saw that as a scam, but

other people felt that that was really reasonable to do.

Well, we should make sure now that we have time, that never happens again.

It's a bad idea from a mass scale.

Correct.

I do believe that if you have a reason to, I mean, like I, you know, I'll get an example that we've used many times, especially when we were in New York, we were doing election coverage all day.

From the, from the morning I woke up, it's, you know, I'd be on a train at six o'clock in the morning, and I didn't come home until the next morning.

Like, you know, usually I had to stay in New York that night.

So I had no chance to vote in my own state on the day of the election.

Does that mean that I don't get a vote?

No.

Like, no, absentee voting makes sense.

If you have a reason to not be able to vote that day, honestly, I think even if you just don't want to vote that way, you probably can.

However, it should be something that you're requesting and going through a process that's legitimate, not this sort of like, we're just going to mail everybody a ballot or a ballot request form and

change the choice

architecture.

That's why

the left likes this so much.

It basically means, look, well, these people who barely pay attention to the election and are fringe voters because they don't actually know anything about the topics can vote from their own living room with no effort.

That's what they want because they want people who don't think about these things to win the election for them.

And if that's the way your state wants to operate, then it should go through the legislature right now, make those changes, and make sure that it is...

It's verifiable, that it is strong.

I mean, Washington state has done this for a long time, but it took them 10 years to get the security right.

Let's not just all go, oh, well, we did it last time.

We can do it this time.

Let me switch topics.

What you're saying here is we all have to play by the same rules.

You can't change them in the middle of the game.

Well, is that what's happening with the impeachment trial?

John Roberts, Chief Justice John Roberts, shockingly has said he's not going to go to the impeachment trial.

Now, according to the Constitution, the Chief Justice must preside at the impeachment trial.

Well, he says he's not going to go because he said

it is, let me see, an illegitimate procedure.

All right, so he's not going.

Now the Senate, the Democrats, are saying, well, he's not going because we're not inviting him.

Wait, the Constitution says

you have to have the Chief Justice sit as the judge.

He plays no role other than the administering of rules.

So will this be

a legitimate process if the Democrats don't invite or if the Chief Justice says, no, I'm not going because this isn't legitimate.

I'm there to remove a president.

I'm not there to judge somebody who isn't president anymore.

So which is it?

Now, we all know why this is being done.

This is being done, one, as the Democrats are so good at something the Republicans never understand, and that is smoke screens.

They had the greatest smoke screen going for them in my lifetime.

It was called Donald Trump's thumb.

and his Twitter.

Okay, that was the greatest smoke screen ever.

Everybody was talking about what he was tweeting every day.

You should have been doing stuff like, you know, passing freedom for everybody acts.

You should have been passing things in Congress, but they didn't.

They did nothing.

The Democrats don't make that mistake.

So the reason why this is going through the Senate is: A,

it's very popular with Democrats.

Nine out of ten Democrats want him impeached.

One out of every 10 Republicans want President Trump impeached.

But that shouldn't matter.

It should be about the Constitution.

But more importantly, the more we talk about Donald Trump, the less we talk about things that are actually happening.

The things that they are doing on climate change, et cetera, et cetera.

Massive changes are being made right now.

So that's why they're doing it.

And they also want to make sure that, you know, presidents, when they leave office, you kind of look back.

I mean, we even said this.

We joked about it.

Ah, Barack Obama when he was in office.

Those days don't come back.

You know what I mean?

Whatever you're hating at the time,

over,

you know, a period of four to eight years, you start to pine for those days.

And you think the Trump era was bad.

Wait until 2024.

Let's just say Trump decides not to run.

Whoever does run, they will say is worse than Trump.

They will find the things, you know, at least Donald Trump did criminal justice reform.

I mean, this guy is this conservative, crazy person.

They did it when Giuliani ran.

They were like, they were against Bush the whole time.

And then Giuliani ran.

They're like, Giuliani is even worse than Bush.

Like, Giuliani agrees with you on half of this stuff.

Remember, like, this guy was known as a moderate in New York City.

And they were like, he's worse than Bush.

No matter who the new guy is, Romney, all this this Mitt Romney,

he's a Hellion.

Is he really?

Is Mitt Romney?

Oh, he likes it.

He's a conservative.

He's a Kelly.

Oh, my gosh.

Is he really?

And you're also, you're also, not only are we going to grow more fond, because that's what happens,

but also because the economy, I mean, Joe Biden came out today and said, the economy is worse than we thought.

Worse than we thought.

It's just, it's getting worse and worse every day.

I'm not sure how long it's going to take us to turn this around.

Well, it's going to get worse with all the things that you're doing.

For instance, he has said that he wants global warming to take precedent over everything.

So now he's talking about taxing you for how many miles you drive.

So you drive to and fro work.

They want to know how many miles you drive, and that will add up over the years, and you will get a tax every year on the amount of time you spend in your car.

Well, that's going to help.

That's not going to take money out of people's pockets that they could spend or they could build their life with.

That's going to help.

He also has stopped the Trump order to slash the price of insulin and Epipen.

Do you remember when that was such an outrage?

Oh,

okay.

And he orders to look into the social cost

on all of the all of the

regulations for climate pollution and everything else.

What is the social cost?

So we used to have

a way that you would have to pay for it if you're going to make

a new regulation, and you had to look at the cost to the economy.

Well, they've changed that now to the social cost.

If you think the economy is going to get better, I think you're sadly mistaken.

And that's why they want him impeached.

So he can't come back and run.

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So this weekend, ICE agents have been ordered to free all illegal aliens in custody.

Release them all.

Okay, that's great.

That's great.

That's going to help people.

That's going to help people.

We have problems on the border that's coming.

We've got how many caravans coming out that we know of?

Two right now.

Two we know of, yeah.

Thousands of people in each.

And

that's going to get worse and worse.

Incentives matter.

You're telling people to come to the border because

we will not deport you for at least 100 days.

So now, why would you want to make sure?

that you impeach Donald Trump.

Well, there's a backup plan to that, and that is the 14th Amendment.

And the 14th Amendment was put in for the Civil War, that you couldn't run for office if you had led an insurrection.

So in other words, if you were in the Confederacy, you couldn't run in the Union.

You couldn't run in the United States of America because you tried to destroy America.

Now think of the history of that.

They are now saying that you can't run for president.

Well, now wait a minute, wait a minute.

Bill Ayers,

he never ran for president, but he's been trying to destroy Bernadine Dorn, trying to destroy the United States of America.

Antifa,

the one who said, I am Antifa, that ran for office, lost, but ran for office in Portland.

They openly state they're against the government of the United States.

We don't enact this,

you know,

it's the 14th amendment, it it was civil war times.

So now because he gave a speech to where he didn't incite, but he didn't also say, hey, don't do these things, that's going to bar him from being president.

Here's why they care about this so much.

They care about this so much to make sure that he can't run for president ever again, because they know how bad things are going to be.

And they also know

Americans might start looking fondly on those good old days of Donald Trump.

Because if the economy is an absolute wreck, the one thing everyone knows, half the country won't admit, but everyone knows, we had the strongest, the best economy in the history of the United States.

And it worked for minorities.

It was working in record numbers for the poor and minorities.

That's something that you just don't throw out.

We did,

but they're afraid when they've screwed things up horribly, this guy could march right back into the Oval Office, be carried on the shoulders of Americans back into office because

they'll be tired of the economic destruction that I fear is coming our way.

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Yes, very much.

I love these memes.

But

the lady who made the mittens,

now out of business.

She had a small business.

She made these mittens.

And now because of coronavirus and all the shutdowns, she's out of the mitten business.

You're kidding.

It's not because of it.

It has nothing to do with his meme.

Like she's so many.

No, no, no.

She's out of business.

She can't make the mittens anymore.

So freaking depressing.

What are we going to laugh at without those mittens?

Well, you can still laugh at Bernie Sanders generally, but the mittens help.

The mittens helped a lot.

An awful lot.

He looks so cold and frigid.

And that's the funny thing is he was indoors.

It was 81 degrees.

I noticed that.

He's just that old.

Do you see the picture of him, the meme with him on the beach with Chris Christie?

Yeah.

I just love it.

New York has lost a million jobs due to COVID-19.

Good luck getting that thing back.

Now we have new things that I think are just wonderful.

Biden has put a pause on oil,

and this is starting to concern states like New Mexico.

In Albuquerque, President Biden's 60-day moratorium on new oil and natural gas leases and drilling permits is prompting prompting widespread concerns in New Mexico, where spending on education and other programs hinges on the industry's success.

Top Republicans in the state, as well as local leaders in communities that border the

most productive regions in the U.S., right there in New Mexico, say that any moves to make permanent the suspension would be economically devastating for the state.

Half of New Mexico's production happens on federal land and amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars of royalties every single year.

Congressional members from several other Western states are also raising concerns, saying the ripple effects on the moratorium will hurt small businesses already struggling because of the pandemic.

You know what you need to do?

The West

and the attorney generals in the West need to get together.

and demand their land is returned.

Their land was taken from them when the government pushed out west.

And they seized a lot of these lands, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada.

If you look at what the United States government owns as far as land goes

east of the Mississippi, it's a very small amount of land.

Once you start going west of the Mississippi, And the farther you go, you know, near the Rockies, it's almost all federal land in some states.

And they have been told by the Supreme Court twice that that land belongs to the states and needs to be returned.

But when the government is the policeman as well,

what do you do?

Twice this has gone through the Supreme Court and two times the federal government has been told, return the land.

States should have this land.

States should be making these decisions on what they want to do.

And I'm telling you,

I think this is going to become more and more...

Well, let me give you this story.

I think this is part of the correction.

American airlines will no longer permit emotional support animals on flights, forcing owners to pay extra if they wish to be accompanied by their pets.

The airline said Tuesday that trained service dogs will be the only animals animals allowed in the cabin without an additional charge.

The ban will begin Monday, blah, blah, blah.

The decision to ban emotional support animals will likely be followed by other airlines in the near future.

The animals outside of service dogs will only be permitted to fly in the cargo hold or cage that fits underneath the seat in the cabin, and they will collect a fee of a minimum of $125 for these pets to travel on the plane.

What is this story really about?

Would they want more money to be a little...

No.

No.

Have you flown recently?

Yeah, a couple of times.

It's like flying in the San Diego Zoo.

It's like, let's take the zoo with us.

Now, I fly with Uno.

Uno is a protection animal.

And so we fly with Uno.

And we had to go through all kinds of hoops and legal

stuff.

And he's got to wear

tag on him that he's a service animal and a protection animal.

I'm sitting next to, I swear to you, I am looking for a cockatoo to be sitting next to me and crapping on my shoulder at some point.

An emotional support cockatoo?

Yes.

Everyone is bringing their pet.

And I think it's kind of funny myself because we saw this coming.

When the person had the donkey as the emotional support donkey, I'm not making this up.

And put it in their aisle with them

an emotional support donkey.

I thought this is hysterical.

Keep it coming.

I want snakes and all kinds of things.

No, you don't want snakes on a plane.

I've heard bad things.

That's true.

That documentary that came out was really

riveting.

Yeah, riveting is truly frightening.

But this is

the market correcting itself.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

We thought people would be reasonable.

I don't know why they thought that.

And we realize that in today's world, anything goes.

And so I guess we're just going to have to regulate a little bit and charge you because

that's a tarantula.

And I'm sorry, it can't be on the plane with you on your chest, no matter if you have to pet it or not.

No.

I mean,

that's what this is.

And I'm not necessarily saying I like this.

This is showing that there is a correction coming.

Here's another example

there are many states now Montana Tennessee and Utah are now running through their state houses open carry laws they are saying they're pushing for concealed carried guns without a permit and open carry

So, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You can conceal your gun?

You have a concealed carry permit?

You don't need the permit?

What?

This is the states starting to react to the federal government and saying, you know what, you're going in the wrong direction.

And we're going to strengthen the laws here to make sure that everybody is very clear where we stand on guns.

This is just fortifying, yeah, no snakes on this plane.

That's what's happening.

And that's a really good thing.

And every state in the union that you live in that's not freaking California, you need to get to your state legislatures and act right now.

They should be pulling the 1619 project out.

They should be passing a law

in your city.

and in your state, and you're going to get a lot of heat and pushback for it.

I know of a city here in Texas that is just being dragged through the mud because they're like, none of this critical race theory crap in our schools.

You're not teaching it to our kids.

And boy, oh boy, they're being dragged through the mud right now because of it.

Just keep standing.

Just keep standing.

And

bring it to your state level and your local level.

They've got to be, you've got to right now organize in your local community and your state to make sure the 1619 project is not in your schools, to make sure that critical race theory is not being taught in your schools in any form.

You have to make sure

that your state is shoring up its election rules right now.

If your state did something smarmy,

you're going to have a hard time because most likely you're being run by smarmy people.

But if your state, like Texas,

They fought and fought and fought and fought in the courts.

I think they should be looking at those things right now.

Make

your voting rules absolutely bulletproof.

People should be forming groups now in all states to stop mail-in voting unless there is signature verification and all kinds of verification.

I think personally stop all mail-in voting except for absentee.

Any of this voting where we just send out ballots.

That's all we do.

I think that should all stop.

But if you request a ballot for absentee, you should be able to get it.

But we have to shore up our voting.

Everything that you can do in your state to shore up the Second Amendment and the First Amendment.

The First Amendment is going to,

your freedom in your church is already under attack.

And you know this.

We think it's because of COVID.

When they started saying you can't do these things, why?

Because they are destroying your habits.

They're destroying your traditions.

Barack knows to do this, we're going to have to change our traditions.

Well, that's what's happening.

But the attacks are going to come, they're going to be much more direct, much more direct.

You have to do everything you can to shore up

your state and local community and your home.

You need to start preparing for a time where you are the leader that thinks this way, that you are the one who can lead others to safety because

you work hard on your credibility.

You don't say crazy things.

You just do what's right.

And you stand.

You will, if you are peaceful, kind, and generous to people who disagree with you, when the crap hits the fan, people will look to you as a leader.

You must position you and your family as those people right now.

All right.

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You can refinance your mortgage right now.

Kind of sounds scary.

I mean, I don't,

I hate, you know when I bought my, you know when I bought my house?

Right after I signed?

Do you know what the bank said to me?

No.

Don't come back.

Yeah, they said, congratulations.

You know, you're never going to sell that house.

I was like, what?

Why wouldn't you tell,

why wouldn't you say that to me before I just signed on this dotted line?

It's a fair question.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They didn't have a good answer for it.

I mean, you know, they're working for the bank.

I want somebody to work for me, somebody to help me out, please.

Well, we have them.

It's American Financing.

AmericanFinancing.net is

the group of people that work for you, not the banks.

It's an important distinction because if you're in a mortgage right now that is over 3%,

it's the best time to refi.

Now, the bank doesn't, they're not calling you going, hey, you should refi, because they're making money on that.

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Well,

you know,

I could go into some things that people are going to say they're conspiracy theories, what the, you know, what the...

Official state-run agency in China is

doing for the opening activities for the World Economic Forum.

But people will be calling it a conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theories aren't fun anymore.

You know, like I looked up on TV just a minute ago, and the

Shriners, you know, they run those commercials to help raise money.

And those kids are so cute.

Now, a good conspiracy is they're so cute, they must be computer-generated.

Those kids cannot be that sick and that cute.

Now, that's an absolute lie.

These kids are absolutely real.

So it wouldn't be a fun conspiracy for the

Shriners or the kids, but it would be at least some of you would be like, that's crazy.

Yeah, like they would storm in the Capitol over the Shriners kids.

People are so serious now about their conspiracy theories.

There was a time where conspiracy theories were like more whimsical and fun.

Like even like you go, I think people believe them in sort of a, it was a good little bit of entertainment and kind of like the moon thing.

Like the moon thing.

Like, ah, you know what?

You know, they never, we never landed on the moon.

Let's argue about it.

It'll be fun.

And it was like a harmless thing to argue about.

Right.

Because who cares, you know, if you don't, if you're not correct on that, right?

People weren't storming buildings.

They weren't showing up as senators' houses.

Correct.

You know, they honor that.

But that has turned into serious because the people who really believe them are

like, it's like growing and it's becoming this thing that is anti-government now.

Before it was like, we didn't go to the moon.

Dude, here's the photo.

Here's the guy who went.

I just had him on the show.

You know,

you had stuff like that, but now it's now you don't believe anything.

Well, have you heard this theory that Britney Spears is being held hostage?

Oh, by her dad or something, right?

By like, yeah, her management or her something like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And she's in her house and she's sending signals through her Instagram videos.

This is a great one.

About whether she's, like someone said.

This is a great one.

You know why this is a great one?

Why?

Because nobody really cares if it's true.

I mean, I'm sure, I mean, Britney would,

but nobody else does.

I mean, it's like it's Britney Spears who really cares.

But there are a lot of people who seem to care.

But it's at least fun.

I mean, it's at least fun because there doesn't seem to be any societal

statement.

It doesn't seem to be any divisive, like,

like, the thing I liked about conspiracy theories back in the day where you could argue about them and still, and passionately, and still like the other person.

Like, Jeffy believes every conspiracy theory.

Oh, of course he does, yes.

Now, I never liked Jeffy, obviously, so there's never a moment where we argued about it and liked each other.

But, like, there was, he will come up and with a dead straight face, argue basically any conspiracy theory.

It was like the guy who used to work for us years and years and years ago, who was Clinton, the communist.

He wasn't really a communist.

He kind of was.

He kind of was, but he was more of just like,

I just like to say those things that get people stoked up.

There's a little bit of that in there, right?

But he was a nice guy.

We liked talking to him.

He wasn't going to kill anybody, and he wasn't going to burn the city down.

He was never going to overthrow the government for his communism.

Right, right.

It was like, he's a lazy communist.

He's a lazy communist.

That's what we need.

More lazy conspiracy theorists.

People who kind of want to joke about it at parties, but not necessarily, you know, light anything on fire over it.

Like the lizard.

The lizard one, that's great.

But all the people in Washington are lizard people.

I love that.

Wasn't there someone recently that's true?

What?

They took it too seriously?

I thought you were.

I think there was a lizard person, the protester, up in the Capitol.

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