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Say again.

Exactly.

956, did you understand that transmission?

Yeah, that transmission he said was unreasonable.

It sounded like someone said they have a bomb on board.

Sir, did you hear the transmission where the airplane just said he had a bomb on board?

He said there was a bomb on board.

That's what we thought.

We just

didn't get it clear.

Send the aircraft you can't get a hold of it.

He's just turned to the east, also.

FP 956, we had a visual out of this standby.

Do you have a visual out of him now?

We did, but we lost him at the turn.

If you can make a turn back to 220 heading, let me know if you can can see him.

You didn't work for anybody northwest of you.

American 10-60, exactly 956.

We just lost a target on that aircraft.

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Man, Z-100-852.

Something weird is going on.

The World Trade Center is on fire.

Oh, my God.

Seriously, the top of the building.

We're trying to get information.

Top level of one of the

news to unfold from New York's

crane crash.

My sister's in that building.

Okay.

And I hope she's okay.

And I gotta run to New York.

Oh my god, please hand them over there.

First of all, calm down.

We're

raining papers and ashes.

People jumping out the windows.

Oh, yeah, they're jumping out the windows.

A second plane has now flown in with explosion into Pentagon.

A third location

and outside of Washington.

I don't have words to describe what I'm witnessing right now.

Effective immediately until further notice.

Flight operations in the National Airspace System by United States civil aircraft and foreign civil and military aircraft are prohibited.

Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward.

And freedom will be defended.

Oh god.

Oh my god.

One of the World Trade Towers

has collapsed and fallen.

Let's go, Steve.

I've never seen anything like this.

I've got five patients.

They need you.

You got a female officer down.

We're not gonna be stopped.

We're not gonna be deterred.

We're not gonna stay at home.

We're not gonna be frightened.

We're gonna live our lives as Americans.

We're all brothers.

We've all gotta stick together.

My God, look at the skyline without the towers.

It is Tuesday, September 11th,

2001.

This is Glenn Beck.

Dateline, New York.

In one of the most audacious attacks ever,

terrorists hijacked two airliners,

crashed them into the World Trade Center in a coordinated series of blows today that brought down the twin 110-story towers.

Thousands may be dead.

58,000 people

work at the World Trade Center.

Sean is me, I just want to let you know I love you.

And I'm sick of

One plane?

United Flight 93

crashed north of Somerset County Airport,

a small airport 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.

United said that flight

Boeing 757

left Newark at 801

and it presented

38 minutes.

It is as old as the scriptures

and is as clear

as the American Constitution.

That is it.

Let's roll, let's roll, let's roll.

The news

of this day,

September 11th,

2001.

United Ninety three, United Night Three

United Ninety three,

United Ninety Three

United Ninety

United Ninety

It is September 11th, 2020.

It has been 19 years, and what a schlog it has been.

How much has changed.

From having to stand in line at airports, which we never did,

taking our shoes off,

all of the crazy things, all of the men and women lost, all of the treasure that was lost in this war that doesn't seem to end.

The fighting back and forth from the left and the right to where

we don't even know who we are anymore.

Americans came together

on 9-11.

And it didn't matter who you were, it didn't matter who you voted for.

All of a sudden, we were united

because we believed in something.

We believed in something elusive, something

that we had taken for granted up until that day.

And that is

who we are and

what we are and what we stand for.

Now, in our streets,

police chiefs are retiring.

The Detroit police chief

said, Detroit's in total anarchy

because leadership is folding to protest pressure.

China is talking about today cutting our access to drugs.

I don't know, that's probably more important to talk about and work on than arguing back and forth.

We knew how close we were,

and we've all been surprised on how resilient the economy and this nation has been.

Why?

Because of its people.

I had a friend in my home last night.

He's probably 60.

He's worked his whole life.

He's tried to be fair.

He's tried to be honest.

He was wiped out in 2008.

But he didn't declare bankruptcy.

He instead took 10 years to pay it all off because of his integrity.

He's a hard, hard working man.

And he said, Now, just as I was starting to get back on my feet, now this has happened and it's wiped me out.

And he said, Glenn,

I don't know what to do.

But I feel like I've been cheated my whole life.

I heard him,

and I heard so many Americans

through him.

We've played by the rules.

We've believed in something.

And now that something is being taken away.

Headline today: Has America's Second Civil War already started?

Headline today, September 11th, series of wildfires may be coordinated and planned.

Headline today:

The Transition Integrity Project,

which is a group that recently wargamed potential outcomes of the 2020 election and transition

and outlying various ways to oust Donald Trump, including declaring him mentally unfit and carrying out a mentally un mentally military coup.

The woman who was

part of that military coup,

that dreamt that up, that actually tried to sell it in 2016,

is

the co-founder of the Transition Integrity Project.

The ones that are trying to save us now

because of the right-wing extremists

that are going to steal the election.

She said, unless there's a Biden-Harris landslide, there will be violence in the streets, and we'll be at a constitutional impasse.

A letter was written to America this week.

I want you to listen to the words.

She warned America

that we're at the very edge of a precipice.

America, you're at the very edge of the

precipice.

Please wake up.

Take hold.

Fight for your country.

Be proud of your roots.

Uphold your values, she wrote.

Stand for your flag and your anthem.

Defend your history.

Don't relent in the face of those who seek to rewrite your history and serve their narrative and justify the destruction of your nation.

You have so much to cherish and protect for your sake and ours.

She doesn't live in America.

She lives in Switzerland now.

She says she's an American at heart.

She had a U.S.

flag in her childhood bedroom.

She spent a lot of time in America.

She said you look at all the terrorist attacks that have happened in Europe over the past 19 years.

They've shaken Europe to the core.

Our society has been completely infiltrated.

And in the U.S.,

we're watching you from afar, seeing that the far left that has aligned itself

completely with the people that share the ideology of the people who brought down the World Trade Center.

Please wake up, quoting.

It's vital for our future, not only of America, but the Western civilization as a whole.

The woman who wrote that,

the woman who is an American at heart, who's warning us,

is Osama bin Laden's sister.

Osama bin Laden's sister, who has never been with Osama bin Laden,

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I want to give you some perspective on something that happened as the Chiefs and the Houston Texans locked arms in solidarity for social justice.

Do we have the audio from this?

It surprised a lot of people, and

boy, oh boy, the networks are very upset at the people that were in the stands.

It was the NFL kickoff between Kansas City and Houston, and they locked arms in unity as part of the protest against racism.

And here's what happened:

ladies and gentlemen, please join us in a moment of silence dedicated to the ongoing fight for equality in our country.

Okay, Okay, everybody's silent.

Everybody's respectful.

It's good.

Everybody's locking arms.

Now they did the national anthem, Lift Every Voice and Sing,

which is a great song written by a Republican, by the way.

Written by a Republican.

It's known as the Black National Anthem.

It's a great, great song.

But

as a friend of mine said, and Stu, you may be able to verify this,

my friend said that

his wife had sworn off the NFL.

Said, I'm not going to watch football anymore.

She's a big Dallas Cowboy fan.

He said, you're going to be watching it.

She said, no, I'm not.

And she hasn't joined in, you know, but he said he watched the NFL.

He said, 40 minutes in, I had to turn it off.

He said, because it wasn't football, it was a lecture.

He said it was all about.

Now, this is the game I think that was played over the weekend.

No, last night.

Okay, well, he told me this yesterday afternoon.

So he saw maybe a preseason.

There was no preseason this year, so maybe he was watching.

Was it college?

Maybe college.

I don't know.

He said, but it was a non-stop lecture.

Yeah, I mean, I actually, now I've watched the NBA and Major League Baseball as well.

I mean, the NFL was much better, I think, than those other sports.

They,

you know, there was one person on the Chiefs that took a knee for the anthem.

I mean, you listen to that.

That was kind of promoted as, like, well, they're booing the moment of unity.

Like, it seemed like they were booing the moment, the people who were, the few people who were kind of like yelling in the middle of the moment of silence is what it sounded like to me.

I mean, I don't know.

No, I think there were some people probably that were booing.

Yeah, general Black Lives Matter, you know,

all of that stuff.

I mean, I came up with a great solution to this problem, though.

You start about 20 minutes late, and then when they start going, let's go ask Bob Tomblum about his opinion about racism.

You just go, blip, blip, blip.

And then it's over, and you don't see any of it.

I found it to be a good solution.

I find it interesting that you don't see soccer doing this.

Hockey is standing up against it.

No, they don't seem to be getting real backlash.

They're destroying our tradition of football, basketball, and baseball.

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I want to make a small correction.

Earlier, I was telling you about the words of Osama bin Laden's, I said sister, it's actually niece.

She wrote an open letter to America,

and

I want to read more of it because I find this amazing.

Now, this is Osama bin Laden's niece.

The bin Laden family,

you know, they are

very successful.

Bin Laden, Osama bin Laden, was really the black sheep of the family.

I don't know if I would still carry around the bin Laden name

myself, but that's such a Western perspective.

But she's written this letter, and she lives in Switzerland.

She is known in Switzerland as somebody who wears a MAGA hat all the time.

So she's wearing...

Really?

Yeah, this letter says in full, with President Trump at America's helm, she stands a chance of restoring her principles, pride, independence, and true place in the world as a beacon for liberty and hope for all.

To me, this is what makes America great again.

Looking back at your country's foundation and preserving what truly made it great, but also knowing that the best is yet to come.

All of the uh achievements will be torpedoed with a uh bin Laden Harris pres presidency, and the dream of America's enemies to see her weak and on her knees will be fulfilled.

Probably a Biden-Harris presidency, right?

Bin Laden-Harris.

Yeah, sorry.

Yeah, yeah, Biden-Harris.

She said, stand for your flag and your anthem.

Defend your history.

Don't relent in the face of those who seek to rewrite it and serve their narrative and justify the destruction of your nation.

You have so much to cherish and protect for your sake and ours.

She said, Trump has made the world a safer place since taking office.

I'm quoting, to name a few achievements, he stood up to China.

He's kept us out of new wars, made Europe comply with their NATO requirements, solidified ties with Israel, overturned the disastrous Iran deal, obliterated ISIS, took down other key terrorists, and facilitated a historic peace deal between Israel and the UAE.

Now, if anybody in the media would ever report this story, they'd say, yeah, well, look, of course, Osama bin Laden's niece, his family is all for Donald Trump.

What is she saying here?

She's saying

obliterated ISIS, got out of the Iran deal, has ties with Israel, made historic peace with Israel.

And that doesn't sound like her brother at all.

I mean, her uncle.

She said his administration has also made Christian persecution worldwide a top priority with the State Department instituting the ministerial to advance religious freedom, the first of its kind.

Trump shows that he protects America and us in Europe by extension from foreign threats by obliterating the terrorist at the root before they get a chance to strike.

Wow.

I mean, it's a great thing.

That could have come from Kayleigh McInaney.

Yeah.

It's bin Laden's niece.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Yeah.

It's really amazing.

And I honestly,

I want to try to reach out to

liberals and Democrats, not progressive Marxists, but liberals, people

who believe in the Constitution.

They just may believe in a bigger welfare state than a typical conservative.

Somebody that feels the country is in trouble and you don't like Donald Trump.

I get it.

I get it.

And even if we vote differently, I get it.

But

we have to have conversations

with liberals and with Democrats and just say,

how are we missing each other on this one?

How are we...

Because

the country

is being sold down the river.

I can't believe it's only conservatives that still believe in the flag and the military.

Did you hear what happened in California?

In California, I think this is, this is who we are.

300 campers were out in one of the state parks and they were trapped by the fire.

And the California fire said, there's no hope.

We can't get in.

It's way too dangerous.

There's no way for us to rescue you guys.

300.

300 campers.

And they said, jump in the lake to survive.

You've got to just go into the lake, put your head underwater.

That's the only way you guys are going to make it.

Well, then Army pilots found out about it.

And so the U.S.

military said, we'll go in.

California Fire said it was too dangerous.

The

military crews, go in.

There was zero visibility in the canyon.

Zero visibility.

The

the overload with people on these helicopters was also really, really dangerous.

Are people going to overload it?

Is it going to crash?

None of it happened.

They went in with zero visibility.

They went to the lake and they rescued 300 people.

They went in and then they got the survivors and went out and then went back in again, got more survivors and got out.

This is who we are.

We are people that we don't care.

They didn't card people.

Who are you voting for?

They didn't care.

We're Americans.

And we have such little pride right now that we're not even talking about the heroes like these guys, absolute heroes that remembered we're all Americans.

And Americans don't leave Americans behind.

We don't say, oh, it's too dangerous.

I don't hold this against the fire, you know, the California fire, because they don't have military experience and helos like the federal government does.

So I'm not saying anything bad.

I'm not calling the firefighters anything bad.

I'm just saying

we do things in America.

We do things.

We've spent a lot of time, a lot of money, and

we've shed a lot of blood to be able to do amazing things.

Can we step and just recognize it for a minute?

It's a great idea.

I mean, I kept coming back to that thought today as we sit here on 9-11 and the 19th anniversary.

All this anti-cop stuff we've been taking in lately

kind of puts you in a different place on that, doesn't it?

Obviously, I think this audience is generally pro-police and doesn't put up with that nonsense, but it's been so commonplace over the past few months to just basically say all cops are bad, all cops ACAB.

And you know what?

That's not what that stands for.

We made the other,

we went too far the other way on September 11th.

We said, all cops are good.

No, not all cops are good.

Not all cops are bad.

Cops,

military, everything.

It's a section of society.

All cops are us.

They're us.

Some are good, some are bad.

You root out the bad ones and you elevate the good ones.

We're not doing that anymore.

Instead, it's just all cops are bad.

All cops.

I mean, remember, people all over the country were wearing like NYPD t-shirts and hats.

Couldn't keep them in stock.

Yeah.

And now we're told they're just these evil people that basically just show up everywhere and just try to kill minorities.

Well, now people are losing their job just for supporting cops online.

What?

Yeah.

There's been a couple of professors who have said good things about police officers.

You got fired for it.

Well,

wow.

have we come that far that you can't even say anything good about police?

You can't.

I remember the 4th of July celebrations that

people were pissed off about.

You can't celebrate the nation anymore.

No.

Yeah.

No, no.

I'm saying no.

And I know you believe this too.

No, not on my watch.

Right.

Exactly.

Not on my watch.

And it's, look,

next week, we are going to tell you and outline how America could very well be in civil war by Christmas.

It is being plotted and planned, and either side could start it.

The crazy right-wing groups, which I think there's maybe 12 members of,

but

they are just as interested in destroying America.

I mean, Richard Spencer is a socialist.

So he is just as

motivated to destroy America as the far left is.

So

there are all kinds of people, and all it needs is just a little shove.

But we have got to find the people who we don't agree with

that we can actually talk to and say, we've got to keep our heads.

We've got to keep our heads and remember who we are.

Eric Weinstein, you know who he is, right?

He's the lefty professor up in Oregon that was, I mean, he's as left as they come.

He tweeted after the fire story, he tweeted, I miss heroic official behavior.

I miss heroic official behavior.

I also miss rule breaking for the greater good.

Can you imagine being an abandoned abandon in a lake

and seeing a chopper with an American flag coming to pick you up,

piloted by actual Americans who remember what the hell that even means, rather than whatever it is that's tearing us apart.

That should be our goal.

I call on you to reflect

on the last

19 years

and where we were and who we were and what we knew to be true.

And then look at what has torn us apart.

And are there things with people that you don't vote the same way?

Are there neighbors that are just afraid, just as afraid of talking to you as you might be to them?

Because they think you're an extremist that's just going to yell at them, or you think they're an extremist is just going to yell at you.

Well, some of them might,

but we're all feeling how close we are to the edge.

Reach out to anybody you think and don't try to win.

Just say, We got to keep our heads.

I don't care how you vote, we got to keep our heads.

Because if it's a fair election, we'll be okay.

But the way this is being set up, it is being set up to cause people on both sides to feel like it was unfair.

And this will be our undoing.

This election will be our undoing if we don't remember who we are.

So take today to remember where we were, what we went through, how many lives have been lost to protect this country and to save our principles and our Constitution.

The treasure that we have spent and the blood that we have all spent over the last 19 years, it cannot be for naught today

because we're all pissed and not talking to each other.

Remember who you were on September 12th.

Remember the 9-12 project.

Remember who you were the next day.

You were kind.

You were generous.

We were in it together.

Race didn't matter.

Status didn't matter.

Religion, politics, none of it mattered.

Because in the end, we all realized we're Americans.

Find those Americans that still remember

what the hell that means.

Pat, thanks for joining us.

Pat Gray, Unleashed.

You can find it wherever you get your podcasts every day.

Also on Blaze, Radio and TV prior to this program.

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Just an update.

Facebook has made our point for us.

Facebook has demonetized a clip from Wednesday night show

on television where we showed you the curriculum that is being pushed in your schools already in 27 states.

Could be not in your state, but in your own local independent school district.

Just depends on who's running it and who's on the school board.

We've been telling you it's pedophilia,

that it is

horrendous.

Well, they demonetized a clip from our show

and put a warning to us

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objectionable material.

Not false.

But we agree with that.

Right.

Analysis.

Yes.

Not false.

Just

disturbing stuff.

Okay.

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I'd like to know.

If it's so disturbing that we can't talk about it on Facebook, why?

Because it's being taught to our kids without our knowledge in schools.

So who's going to find what do you what are you afraid?

Adults might find that?

What happened to a consenting adult?

Can do whatever they want.

Whatever happened to that.

Parents would find this objectionable?

Damn right.

As soon as they find out about it, they do.

You're worried about some kids finding it online?

Why?

The kids know about it if it's being taught in their schools.

And Facebook, you're in California, where this has all been adopted.

Your censors in California, the people that put these people in office, you find it objectionable?

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Last year on September 11th, we had the author of then a new book, The Only Plane in the Sky,

Jared Graff.

Jared had

put together one of the most incredible books.

It was all in real time.

And it was all quotes from people,

be them, you know, people in the military or the government or celebrities or just regular people, police officers, firefighters, and put the day in context of what people were saying at the time.

It's really an incredible book on 9-11.

Well,

we had the conversation about 9-11 and his book last year.

I wanted to have him on because

he listened to everyone

and

went through all of the comments on 9-11 and put them in order.

Does he see those kinds of uniting comments

even possible in today's America?

Jarrett Graff, the author of The Only Plane in the Sky,

as we remember today, the 19th anniversary of 9-11.

This is

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I don't know what is wrong with me.

I'm sorry.

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A Garrett.

Gosh.

Garrett.

Valerie Jarrett on the mind?

Perhaps.

Could be that.

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Thank you.

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Welcome to the 19th anniversary of 9-11, Garrett.

Thanks, Glenn.

It's always a pleasure to talk to you, even on a somber day like this.

Yeah.

First of all, your book, as we talked last

year,

absolutely incredible.

Really, truly incredible.

The way

you, I mean, it's called An Oral History of 9-11, but the way you put this together, can you talk about it just a little bit?

Yeah, so the book is

the voices of 480 Americans as they lived that day, sort of firsthand, from the pilot of Air Force One to firefighters at the World Trade Center to schoolchildren to

survivors in the towers, survivors at the Pentagon,

and even the

Navy commander in the White House bunker with Vice President Jamie, who asks for authority that day to shoot down the hijacked airliners.

And

we all know the story of 9-11,

but I think

know,

this is the 19th anniversary now.

We are having people who were born after 9-11 voting in the presidential election this fall for the first time.

And so we're seeing this day slip from memory into history.

I mean, literally, people voting in this election who will have only read about 9-11 in high school history books.

And I fear that the story that we tell about 9-11

as history doesn't capture the day for those of us who lived through it.

And so the goal for this book was not to tell sort of the neat and clean and simple history of 9-11, where we talk about it as

the first attack began at 8.46 that morning.

There were four planes, the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, Shanksville, and the whole thing was over 102 minutes later at 10.29 with the collapse collapse of the second tower.

Because, Glenn, as you remember, for those of us who were alive that day, that's not the day any of us experienced.

No.

You know, we didn't know when the attacks began.

We didn't know when they were over.

We didn't understand

what transpired, even as it transpired.

And we didn't know what came next.

I mean, part of what

you have to understand about that day as history is the fear and the confusion and the chaos and the trauma and the thought of what might come on the afternoon of September 11th, what might come on 9-12, what might come in October, what might come in 2002.

And when you look at how our country reacted to that day,

We weren't reacting to sort of the facts of 9-11.

We were reacting to the emotions of 9-11.

And so the goal for this book, the goal with this experience to tell that day through the voices and the experiences of the people who lived it is to capture the emotion of the day, not the facts of the day.

If I remember right, one of my favorite guys that is part of the book is the Air Force One

pilot who is now taking the president someplace entirely different, and the president doesn't want to go there.

Yeah, I mean, that remains one of the most dramatic parts of that day is, you know, President Bush was reading, as we all remember, in that

Emma Booker Elementary School classroom that morning, rushed aboard Air Force One, Air Force One races into the sky.

And President Bush wants to go back to Washington.

You know, he understands that

the most important thing he can do as a leader that day is to be back at his desk in the Oval Office reassuring the country that everything is going to be okay.

The military doesn't want to bring him back to Washington.

There are still, they believe at that point, still dozens of other hijacked airliners that they fear are still in the sky.

They don't know what is happening.

And so they don't want to bring him back.

The Secret Service doesn't want to bring him back.

And White House Chief of Staff Andy Hard is

on board with the pilot and the president and the Secret Service detail.

And they're all having this sort of incredible dance aboard the plane that morning because the president

doesn't want to give a direct order to return to Washington because he's not sure it would be followed.

And the Secret Service and the captain of Air Force One, the pilot of Air Force One, Colonel Mark Tillman,

they don't know whether they would follow the direct order of the president that morning because their job

is to protect him, to keep him alive.

And so

sort of everyone aboard the plane is very careful to stay sort of just short of the, I order this plane back to Washington.

The only thing that I remember as weakness of that day, I mean, we were all freaked out.

We didn't know what was going on.

And we were all afraid.

I mean, I don't know if you felt this way, but I felt like we're at war.

We don't even know who we're at war with.

We could be over.

We could be over.

If they could pull this off, what else do they have planned?

And we could be over quickly.

And the only moment that I saw anything that wasn't

that fed into that was

President

Bush.

Remember, he did that live thing?

I think it was like a concrete wall.

It looked like he was in a bunker, and you're kind of like, holy mother, we are in trouble.

He's underground.

Yep.

You know,

he was raised first to Barksdale Air Force Base in Shreveport, Louisiana, then on to Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska, which, you know, part of remembering this 9-11 story is, you know, we think of 9-11 as part of our modern world.

I mean, it is probably as clear a dividing line between the 21st century and the 20th as we have.

But, you know, you look at

the outfits that day, you look at the technology that day, and that was really the 1990s.

And, you know, the White House is trying to manage this with

two-way pagers.

You know, there are no BlackBerries at the.

Oh, my gosh, they have Blackberries.

You know, there's no email aboard Air Force One.

Aboard Air Force One that day,

they don't even have cable TV

or satellite TV.

So they are picking up local TV news stations on a rabbit ears antenna aboard Air Force One.

And so as they're flying around the country, they

pass over a major city and get some TV coverage and then pass away from it and the TV coverage fades out.

And part of the reason that the president ends up in Omaha, Nebraska that day is that's literally the only place outside of Washington in September 2001 where the president could participate in the secure video teleconference.

I mean, now

the president travels with a briefcase that you can plug into any Ethernet jack anywhere in the world, and it's an instant secure teleconference.

And that day they have to fly him all the way to Omaha to the bunker of Strategic Air Command to

sort of even be able to talk to other government officials.

Wow.

Wow.

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So we have Garrett Graff on with us, and he is the author of the book, The Only Plane in the Sky, which is now out.

I think isn't it coming out on paperback this year?

It's out in paperback this week, yeah.

Yeah.

It's just a tremendous book.

But

let's talk about what you call the grief Americans no longer share.

Yeah, so, you know, part of what makes this such a strange and solemn anniversary, the 19th, September 11th, this year in 2020, is

this sense that we are living through another,

we hope, once a century unfolding disaster right now.

The COVID pandemic

has killed,

you know, has a death toll many, many multiples that of 9-11.

It's a national event in the same way that 9-11 was.

It's dominated our news coverage.

And yet our country feels so different today than it did after 9-11 when we came together.

And

President Bush's approval rating in the wake of 9-11 reached the highest approval rating a president has ever had.

It was like 92%.

I mean, which

You know, to put that in context, that is literally double the current president's approval rating.

Yeah, no,

it's almost dictator-style

approval ratings.

You'll see, you know, Saddam Hussein, he won with 98% of the vote.

And you're like, yeah, of course, everybody had a gun to their head.

Yeah.

And

Democrats were right there with President Bush in the wake of 9-11, you know, as much as everyone.

I mean,

we all remember President Bush going to Ground Zero that Saturday and speaking with the bullhorn to the firefighters and the rescue workers and the construction workers.

And they shout,

we can't hear you over the din at Ground Zero.

And he turns around and shouts, well, I can hear you and the whole world is going to hear us soon enough.

And that that was that rallying cry, the United We Stand belief, the flags, you know, the candlelight vigils, all of that sort of collectivized our grief in a way that we have really only experienced a couple of times in the past.

You know,

you're a great student of history yourself, and

we have these sort of

civic moments in the country, you know, the founding in 1776, you know, the Civil War, and the way that that taught us about sort of death and rebirth and sacrifice.

And then we had 9-11.

And now,

19 years later, we're in the midst of this pandemic that is doing a lot more dividing than it is uniting.

Why?

Well, I think there are a couple of things that stand out for

this year.

The first is,

you know, it literally feels different.

You know, part of what made

part of what allowed us to

have the collective grief after 9-11 were those community gatherings, the sense that

the candlelight vigils, the church services, the memorial services,

whereas we are now in a pandemic that is actually isolating us.

I mean, literally, it has robbed us of the ability to hug friends, to hug loved ones, to sort of be in groups and share that grief together.

The other thing I think that really stands out

just from a sort of spiritual side is the extent to which

9-11

had a certain purity and finality to it.

We understood that innocent people had died.

attacked by evil, and we understood the breadth of that attack.

Whereas today, you know, there is a

sense in our country that, you know, we don't really know where this goes next.

I mean, there are potentially, you know, 100,000 people alive in America today, you know, a population roughly the size of South Bend, Indiana.

who will not be alive by the end of the year.

And that sort of

imposes a sense of uncertainty and nervousness

that we didn't have in 2001.

I mean, part, you know, we were talking a few minutes ago about that fear of what came next.

Right.

Like it, we would have had a very different reaction after 9-11 if we were standing there on 9-11 and sort of knew in our guts that between September and the end of the year, 100,000 more Americans would die in terror attacks.

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You know, we're just talking about the difference between coming together at 9-11 and coming together over COVID-19 and how it's not happening.

And, you know, our guest said, well, there's a couple of reasons.

The masks and social distancing of being locked up, you know, where we're not with each other.

And Stu and I were talking about, we have a few new people that have joined us here on the stage.

I have met them.

I work with them every day.

I would not recognize them on the street if they didn't have a mask on because they're wearing masks the whole time.

And I've no idea what they look like.

I mean, you don't know people in the mask.

You lose that connection.

But I also seem to think there's a big difference in our media than there was in 2000.

Social media was not a thing.

And that's ever so destructive.

And the other is we're in election.

We're three years away from an election.

And gee, when did that unity start going away?

Hmm.

About the election time.

All right.

I want to talk a little bit about what's happening in California.

In California, you know, we know the Nancy Pelosi,

you know, blow my hair out

scandal where she just called up a salon and said, hey, I need you to, you know, blow-dry my hair and make me look nice.

And the owner of the salon was so upset because, wait a minute, I can't open my salon, but you can just come in and get a haircut.

And we've got another situation like that.

This is Danielle Rabkin.

She is the owner of the CrossFit Golden Gate gym.

And I want you to hear her story.

She's got this unbelievable gym where she could social distance people by 30 feet and have them wear masks.

She's not allowed to open, but the state has opened the state gyms.

Welcome to the program, Danielle.

Good morning.

So tell me, tell me what's happening in San Francisco.

It's been pretty unbelievable.

It's been the hardest six months of my life.

We have been pretty closed still.

I don't know that the rest of the country realizes we're almost still entirely on lockdown.

The only things open are outdoor dining, indoor retail.

I think that's pretty much it.

San Francisco has incredible COVID metrics.

When I checked yesterday morning, we only had 88 COVID deaths since March.

We have never had more than 38 COVID ICU patients at a time since day one.

Our hospitals were so empty in the early days waiting for the surge that never came, which is wonderful, but we were cutting back nursing hours, doctors' shifts, giving salary cuts because hospitals were bleeding money.

So we've been in really good shape to flatten the curve.

And somewhere along the line, flattening the curve turned into flattening the local economy because We've just kept everything closed.

And

my personal life and livelihood has just been completely burned to the ground.

I've spent over eight years building this business, and I'm watching it just completely fall apart before my eyes.

San Francisco has experienced a mass exodus.

People are leaving left and right.

If they're going to be locked down, they want more space.

They want cheaper rent.

But as other parts of the country continue to open up, why do people want to be here?

Of course they don't.

Tech can work remote.

There's There's no reason to stay somewhere where you can't get a haircut or go to the gym.

You know, it's just been so extremely frustrating.

Even the Tony Fauci's of the world say that prolonged closures will cause irreparable damage.

So it's just been mind-blowing to me why this has been going on.

Okay, so tell me first,

the state has opened their gyms.

Are these publicly financed gyms or are these gyms for state workers and city workers?

These are publicly financed gyms, taxpayer dollars.

So I know with certainty that at the end of the June, sorry, at the end of June, police station gyms were closed.

A good friend of mine is a police officer, and I know that his gym was shut.

So

I really hesitated to build an outdoor gym in my neighborhood.

The streets are not clean here.

The air is smoky.

It's just not a great setup for outdoor activity, which is what we're moving towards.

But I finally bit the bullet and did it.

And recently I saw a couple of police officers at the end of my block, and I'm thinking, all right, I know that their gym is shut.

I got this.

I'm going to get them to come work out

at my outdoor gym with me.

So two weeks ago, I go up to them and I'm kit-chatting and I say, hey, what are you guys doing for workouts these days?

And they tell me that their station gym has reopened.

And I about fell over.

I couldn't believe it.

Here I am suffering with prolonged closure and I find out that their gym has reopened.

So I immediately reach out to a friend of mine

who is an attorney

and works out of a courthouse in the city.

And I say, does this set a precedent for me?

What does this mean?

They told me Cal OSHA has inspected their gyms.

Can I get a CalOSHA inspection?

And he says, oh, yeah.

I know that paralegals have been working out at the Hall of Justice.

And I couldn't believe it, Glenn.

It takes me everything to not drop 20 S-bombs right now.

I could not believe it.

Here,

I am business owners like me still shut, and paralegals are working out at indoor gyms funded by taxpayer dollars.

So I actually go down to the Hall of Justice to check out these gyms, and I see notices on the door saying that they've been reopened since July 1st.

Limited occupancy, new COVID rules, new sign-in sheets.

So we send it to the press.

I was trying to reach out through a city attorney, through my supervisor's office, through the Office of Economic Workforce and Development.

Why is this happening?

Why am I still closed?

Does this mean I can reopen?

Does this set a precedent for me?

I want to be very clear.

I don't want to see these gyms shut down, but what are the implications for gym owners like myself?

Right.

Because the PPP money, the PPP money is long gone, and it probably didn't help.

San Francisco, I can't even imagine what you are paying in rent for a 4,700 square foot gym.

No, you don't want to know.

I know.

And it was unbelievable to me to see articles about people throughout the country having windfalls with the CARES Act $600 a week.

And, you know, there being debate over them wanting to incentivize people to go back to work.

And I'm thinking $600 a week doesn't even pay for the rent at my one-bedroom apartment.

And there are people, you know, gathering savings from that.

This isn't right.

San Francisco is extremely expensive.

There are businesses across the country that got the same PPP loans that we got.

They weren't ever closed.

Maybe they were closed for one month, and we've been closed for six months.

Where's our help?

If the city wants me to stay closed, they can start paying my rent.

Because, as you said, it's not cheap.

I'm many, many tens of thousands of dollars in debt to my landlord now because of this.

So,

if I may voice what I think some Americans may be saying, and that is,

why would we pay for, why would we take my tax dollars that I'm working hard for and send them to a state that is absolutely out of control,

on fire, literally and figuratively, and they're screwing their own people.

I don't know why,

but they're screwing their own people.

And

I think Americans really feel for people who are trapped in this,

but

it's kind of like, you know, this is what everybody in San Francisco voted for.

I get it.

And I've heard that a lot.

But the reality of the situation is that small business owners like myself, we are where we are.

People voted in who they voted in.

This is the situation now.

And we need help.

I've never, admittedly, I have not followed local politics, and that's that's my own fault.

And you sure and yell better believe it's the learning experience.

But

the decision makers right now aren't just the local politicians.

It's the Department of Public Health.

And well, I don't know how your Department of Public Health can say that working outside, working out outside is safer for you.

I mean,

the entire state is on fire.

Smoke has to be...

I mean, California wildfire smoke was at my home in idaho last weekend idaho it's got to be in san francisco

glenn i completely agree with you and i've been trying to push that up the chain for weeks i have human feces on the sidewalk next to my outdoor gym we are dealing with extremely poor air quality i've been trying to push for an indoor reopening for a very long time and my voice just isn't loud enough And an interesting turn of events, two weeks ago, of course, as soon as I found out about these third house gyms reopening,

you know, we've been pushing this up to change the supervisors, the Office of Economic Workforce and Development.

Just yesterday,

public health officers announced that they were shutting down the city gyms.

And I want to be very clear, that was not the goal.

But within minutes, they've announced that gyms, hair salons, and tattoos can now reopen on Monday.

It is unbelievable to me.

Maybe it shouldn't be so unbelievable that it took something like this to get it to happen.

So, wait, wait, wait.

So, they are letting you open on Monday?

Because of the discovery of these city gyms, they just announced yesterday that they're letting

open on Monday.

Well, congratulations on that.

I mean, I don't know.

We're living in a time now where

many of these people are rulers.

They're not just politicians.

They're not people that were protecting our rights.

They're just rulers.

And this Nancy Pelosi thing at her

hair salon,

are people in San Francisco waking up and saying, wait a minute,

or are they still just as crazy?

It's a good question.

I can't answer for you, but it certainly has not felt like a democracy to me lately.

It's very difficult to feel like your voice isn't heard.

I'm curious to know if the mayor has been using these gyms,

these police station gyms, if her name is in the logbooks.

Wow.

We've put out a records request, and I don't know if they'll try to keep those names public, but I think it'll be very interesting to see if her name is on there between

March and September.

Danielle,

I feel for you.

I mean, I live in Texas and things are still crazy here.

Not like that, but even in Texas.

And

there is,

you know, when you have about 600 people in 10 days

in a country of 350 million dying in those 10 days, that's the last 10, I think, has been about 600 people nationwide.

350 million.

And we are shutting and destroying our economy.

It makes no sense.

And you have to ask yourself, what's the real agenda here?

Because this is doing far more damage to our children, to our psyche, and to our economy.

People like you.

I mean, how long is it going to take for you to recover?

Yeah, I don't know if I will, to be honest, and it's devastating to me.

I can tell you that San Francisco is letting the local economy burn to the ground.

I don't know that anywhere else is as severe here where reopenings can be done safely, slowly, and cautiously, they need to start moving forward.

Thank you so much, Danielle.

I appreciate you speaking out.

Thanks for coming on the program.

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You know,

I should send Danielle a Sabo shirt.

If you haven't seen the Sabo shirt yet, it's of Nancy Pelosi

getting her hair blown dry.

And

it says something accurate with a double meaning, but both meanings are accurate.

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It's under mine, which I don't.

I mean, the old Glenn would wear that t-shirt all the time.

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I would have ordered 10 of these t-shirts.

I think we're coming up with one that doesn't have the phrase up at the top.

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I saw a letter to the editor in a

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I want to read an op-ed from a local paper up in the Northeast written by a guy named Art Payne.

He says, for 20 years, I've listened to conservative talk radio, and my liberal friends say they sometimes try, but they can't tolerate it long.

Ever since William F.

Buckley, who was at least erudite, I've considered it a citizen's obligation to tune in, partly because I'm a veteran, and like many veterans, I take it as an ongoing obligation to support and defend this country and everything it claims to

stands for.

Buckley promoted traditional right-leaning ideology, a small portion of which I agreed with.

The Fox-backed voice of Main Channel now airs Glenn Beck in the morning and Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon.

If you want to know the wellspring for most of the ideas that are threatening to divide and destroy this country and make you anxious and depressed, ideas that unquestionably influence the tweets and chaotic outbursts of our president, then listen for yourself, but expect to be shocked.

Now,

he has set himself up with as somebody who is open-minded.

He's open-minded.

He listens to the other side because it's a citizen's duty.

I do that every day.

I listen to the New York Times podcast.

I listen to NPR.

I read the Huffington Post.

I read the New York Times.

I can't really watch cable news anymore, but I can't watch Fox either.

I try to be open-minded, just like you, Art.

But now I'm being accused of a wellspring of ideas that are threatening to divide.

If you are a new listener of mine, if you are somebody who is on the left, I want you to know, here are my ideas.

All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.

Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And governments are instituted among among men to protect those rights.

I will stand in battle shoulder to shoulder with anyone who agrees with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I believe in the free market.

It's what built America and built the world.

I will stand shoulder to shoulder with somebody who says higher taxes, but I believe in

the Constitution and the free market.

Anybody that believes that children belong to their parents, not to the community.

I believe, I will stand with you.

I will stand with you

if you

will stand with you if you are someone who is

voting the other way.

You would say, I can't vote for Donald Trump.

That's fine.

I don't hate you.

I don't hate you.

I don't understand it.

If you're an educated person, I really don't understand it.

Just seeing who the other side is in line with.

If you look at the truth of BLM from their own website,

They tell you that they are trying to destroy capitalism.

They are trying to overthrow the Western values.

They are working to destroy the nuclear family.

Those are their words, not mine.

And I gladly will stand on a divide and say, yes,

if that's what you're working for, then I don't stand with you.

I can't stand with you.

During the past few years, after Beck finally jumped on the Trump train,

the rhetoric from these two has grown increasingly spiteful, divisive, and untrue.

A major portion of the thousands of lies now attributed to Trump originated there.

With us?

Really?

Could you give me one example?

Every day raises the bar on dangerous, probably illegal speech in terms of inciting violence and riots.

I don't believe Art's even a real person.

As a former serviceman, I realized that rhetoric like theirs would never be tolerated out in the open in the military.

No, because you are not an individual in the military.

You belong to the state.

The minute you sign up or the minute you enter the military, you no longer have an individual identity.

So, yeah, you can't say those things.

But here in America, again, Art, it's the First Amendment.

It's speech, press, questioning your government,

asking them to answer,

assembling,

protesting, all of it.

Not riots, not violence,

not burning cities down.

Here's an up-to-date synopsis.

Democrats, liberals, and inclusive, open-minded folk are lumped together in two words, the left.

That is not true.

How many times have I said, in fact, just on today's show,

Democrats, liberals,

As long as you are not

trying to destroy the country, as long as you are not part of the movement that is cheering on lawlessness

and you want the free market, you want the Bill of Rights, and you will stand and protect those things, you are not a member of the left.

Liberals, I don't have a problem with liberals.

I've had a problem with progressives because progressives have by definition, as Hillary Clinton said, the early 20th century progressive.

The early 20th century progressive was a nightmare, was for eugenics, was for sterilization, was for state control, was for totalitarianism without the revolution.

That's what they were progressing for.

I got a problem with that.

If you don't understand what the definition of a progressive is, well, that's not my fault, that's your fault.

But liberals, people who differ on tax policy and welfare and things like that, no.

You're not an enemy of the state or an enemy of mine.

This hateful faction, it's claimed, are almost all secretly members of Antifa.

Have I said that, Stu?

Anything like that?

That Democrats are all secretly members of Antifa?

No.

And are predominantly Marxists.

Well, I will tell you this.

I've never said anything like that.

I don't believe that.

In fact, I'm pleading for Democrats to stand up.

It's been a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party.

I don't believe you're a Marxist, but if you don't stand up, at some point,

you are going to be labeled a Marxist.

You are a Marxist because you're allowing it to take over your party and your ideology.

I mean, this is not exactly a reach.

You have a guy who has explained multiple dozens of times that he is a socialist and he keeps coming in second in your primaries.

So, I mean, like, it's not exactly like there's no people that support this ideology in the party.

He goes on: there are daily warnings with Limbaugh and Beck that the entire educational system from grade school through college has been co-opted by a radical leftist agenda.

Art, are you blind?

Are you blind?

Are you seeing what's happening in colleges?

Are you seeing

liberal, very liberal Democrats voted Democrat their whole life.

Some of them actually considered themselves kind of pro-Marxism for a while that have said, oh my gosh, this is completely out of control.

And they've left the university on their own.

Have you noticed that, Art?

As to the recent unrest arising out of the latest

spate of police killings of black men, the Black Lives Matter movement That's the summary here of that story.

Interesting one.

The Black Lives Matter movement and the standoffs against a militia of patriots in pickup trucks bearing AK-47s beneath Trump pants banners.

Rush and Beck define this as a biblical battle as clear as black and white are good versus evil.

They often use the evil word for the left and not infrequently claim that all of us evil ones are negative on God.

Well, if you are evil, yeah, you are, you, I mean, by definition, you're not standing with God.

I am not accusing Democrats of being that, but Marxists, yes.

Those people who are attacking our churches, literally, yes.

Those people who say the church and the belief of God must be eradicated, yes.

The people who call for individual rights to be abolished, so we all are told exactly who to be, where to live, what to do at all times?

Yes.

Man is granted certain unalienable rights by God.

Anyone who fights against those rights,

yes,

you would be on the side of evil.

Doesn't make you evil

unless you really know it.

Art, this is the problem here.

I'm trying to be very kind.

You seem to be an intelligent person.

You seem to be someone who

knows a lot of the stories that are going on.

How you are seeing something so incredibly one-sided

is beyond me.

That you are parroting all of the

fictions of BLM,

of Antifa.

I mean, it is to the point now to where Joe Biden came out and said, no one's talking about defunding the police except Donald Trump.

What?

What are you even talking about?

If you are this deluded, I pray that the scales fall from your eyes.

I know who Donald Trump is.

I know what he's done bad.

I know what he's done good.

Do you?

Can you recognize the truth anymore and on either side say, I like these things, I don't like these things.

i believe these things i don't believe these things or are we all just in lockstep zombies sheep

that agree with everything right down the party line

because

you're

you're claiming that

Donald Trump is a dictator and a fascist that just is just itching for his moment to take over.

In fact, let me break for one minute and I want to come back and I want to play some audio of a teacher and talking to their college class

about how Donald Trump is evil.

And I want you to listen to this and then, Art, I want to ask you a question.

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I'm talking about

a letter to the editor by a guy named Art Payne.

And Art, I would invite you to be on the show.

I saw

his letter to the editor in the Mountain Desert Islander,

and

he has a very different point of view than I do.

Let me ask you, let me play this audio, Art, and I would love to know how you view this.

Listen to this as a teacher

teaching your class.

This is not a political class.

Listen to what she's saying to the students.

This was recorded by one of the students or their parents.

Listen.

For four years, because that's what people say.

Give him a chance, give him a chance.

Well, he's had four friggin' years of a chance, and he's done a crap job, and he's really ruining our country.

Many of you, this may be the first time that you're voting.

I'm sorry it's such a contentious situation that you're being thrusted into.

If any of you do still think Trump

is a good person, I beg you to not only go into your heart center and think about this a little more, pull up all the stuff that he's been doing to our country, taking away so many of our rights.

He's trying to turn this into more of a

dictatorship type of situation.

Let me ask you, Art, because I hear this all the time.

What rights has he taken away?

What rights has he taken away?

What rights has he attempted to take away?

I know he has tried to protect rights, the right to life.

You disagree with that.

Maybe.

So maybe it's, well, he wants to take away, but he has not

take away the right to free abortions or whatever.

Okay, we could haggle over that, but he hasn't taken it away.

What right has he taken away?

What has given you the impression that through his actions, as stated here, that he wants to turn everything into a dictatorship.

Because that was one of my fears four years ago.

And especially, I said it on the air.

At the end of four years, we are going to be in so much trouble, and there's going to come an economic crisis, and this guy will be more FDR than FDR.

But what has he done?

He has rejected all of the calls for the federal government to mandate anything about COVID.

He has rightfully, constitutionally, said that public health falls into the category of each state.

And I don't know if you've noticed this, but states like New York and California, the one that is the least like Donald Trump or a conservative, in fact, listened to last hour,

are states that are crushing people.

They feel that they have no rights.

California is still on lockdown.

They wanted to cancel Halloween.

For what?

For what?

There is a balance.

It was to slow the curve so we didn't overwhelm our hospitals.

Well, we did that a long time ago.

Our hospitals are not overwhelmed.

What is the goal here?

You'll notice the goal for Donald Trump is to let people be free and ask them to to be responsible.

And being responsible doesn't mean that when you are six feet away from each other and outdoors and you're way away from each other, that you wear a mask all the time.

If you're close up, if you're at, let's say, breaking into a Macy's and stealing stuff from a Macy's because you're upset about the police,

You know, there's a reason for you to wear a mask.

You know, you don't want to be caught, but nobody's prosecuting that anymore, Art.

So I guess you wear a mask for that.

For what reason?

Because you're close to each other.

But you'll notice that's not happening and nobody seems to have a problem with that in the states that are run by deep progressives.

Tell me your plan, Art.

Tell me the plan.

What is the point of the shutdown at this point?

Tell me what rights have been taken away by Donald Trump.

And tell me how he he has demonstrated himself to be a dictator.

What is the Glenn Beck program?

I really hope that Art calls in and I'll make space for you, Art.

You just let me know.

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that Silicon Valley has to a conscience.

He is a former Google Design ethicist.

He is now working on the problems that are being caused by social media.

Welcome to the program, Tristan.

How are you?

Glenn, it's great to be back.

Thank you for having me.

So in the social dilemma, I mean, it is really

quite clear

that they are profiting off of the divide, even though they're saying

they're trying to heal us.

That's exactly right.

You know, I'm really concerned with the fact that, you know, how can we do anything when our fellow countrymen disagree vehemently across all topics that matter, right?

I mean, how can you fix anything if at least half of the world violently opposes the idea and will counter every strategy that you do?

This film is the first time that the, you know, the people who built some of these products, you know, the inventor of the Facebook like button, the person who built the YouTube recommendation system, the guy who brought the advertising business model to Facebook, Jaron Lanier, the father of virtual reality, are on camera saying, look, these are the harms that it's causing, first to children and the problems of addiction and the breakdown of the family that we all know that I'm sure that so many parents are struggling with, especially in COVID times when you have your kid on Zoom calls, right?

I mean, I know how deep this is,

and the mental health issues there.

But then the second is on the polarization, and that's what I'm really most concerned about, because as you just said, they profit from the divide.

Because no matter what topic that there is, social media will take the most egregious and extreme and worst part of that topic and show it to your outgroup, to the other side, in the least charitable way, which means that we're all biased in a worse way about each other, right?

And it's driving us crazy, and it's actually killing our democracy if we don't actually fix it.

And I'm really hoping is that if enough people see this film, we'll have a new shared truth about the breakdown of our shared truth in reality.

And that's that's really what we're hoping for.

Okay, so by the way, if you don't know what we're talking about, it is a new movie on Netflix called The Social Dilemma.

I think you break it down really, really well, and it is very credible

in its approach.

And because everybody who's in it

is pretty much legendary.

I mean, they were there, they invented it.

However, the problem is, and I mean,

I

try to listen to, well, I do.

I listen to two podcasts every day

that disagree with me.

I don't necessarily listen to anything that agrees with me.

I read a lot, but I read all sides.

And

I'm surprised on both sides how many people

don't know how a story was covered by the other sides.

A lot of people, let's just take on the right.

A lot of people say the New York Times never covered that.

Well, they did.

They did.

They may have covered it differently.

They may have covered it one day or on page 18 where the right was saying this is a front-page story, but they did cover it.

And I'm shocked at how many people

on both sides

don't know

what the other

side is being fed.

Yeah.

Well, it's because, as you said at the beginning of the hour,

these companies profit by showing you your own Truman show, your own affirming view of reality.

Because imagine there's two news feeds at Facebook, right?

One called the Everything You Believe is Right feed, right?

And it just shows you more and more news from your side that basically gets you to click on it more, right?

And there's another feed called the Everything You Know Might Be Different Than What You Know.

We're going to show you news that challenges your views constantly.

You can imagine they could easily find two different sets of stories to show you which one is going to do better for their business model of capturing your attention.

The one that you like.

The one that affirms your view of reality, the one that you like.

And so the problem is each of us have been given our own Truman show, our own reality, right?

Where it's not that everything that we're believing is wrong.

We've just been seeing a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver, and it's actually infected the rest of the media because even cable news or radio news, where do they get their news from?

Well, they get their news from Twitter as well.

So Twitter is the basis, it's this divisive force.

It's the basis that's feeding into all forms of media.

And it's making us all bias in a worse and worse

way.

That's what we've got to fix that.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So we've talked about this many times, that we don't want to get news off of Twitter because it seems like journalists are are not doing real journalism, they're reacting to Twitter.

That's right.

It turned all of us into little monkeys that react

impulsively to the latest thing.

And whatever media ethics or journalism or training that we might have had in a previous generation, that goes out the window.

When I win, the faster I make an assertion about what the other side did.

Yes.

And I say something without actually stopping and holding, because if I don't do it, the other guy will.

So it's a race to the bottom of the brainstem, a race to the immediate, who can say it first, but that just means means that exponential hearsay, exponential gossip.

And it doesn't lead to good sense making, right?

And if we cannot agree and it just leads to violence and really escalating towards levels of violence that I think people are worried about civil war, that's not actually productive.

And by the way, our enemies are using this right now against us, right?

I mean, they actually want us to just sit here fighting with each other.

After World War II, you know, with the big powers, with nukes, you can't actually wage a conventional war anymore.

So you want to use subtler methods with plausible deniability, proxy wars.

But if you're Russian China, Iran, Turkey, or North Korea, you're not going to launch a nuke against us, right?

But you might want to take the existing tensions and turn the enemy against itself.

And that's what Sun Tzu exactly would say to do.

That's what the Chinese military strategy is.

And Facebook makes this a trillion times easier.

So if I'm China, I want the extreme right and the extreme left to proliferate and fight each other and would be stoked about the rise of extremist groups on all sides.

Trevor Burrus: So let me ask you, Tristan, because here's the problem

from the right point of view, from the conservative point of view.

And that is

we don't have any billion-dollar hundred-year-old institutions like the New York Times.

Fox News, a lot of conservatives are just

not even watching Fox News anymore.

They're tired of a lot of this stuff.

And

when you have a group of people, let's say the Blaze, where we

really, I'm not saying all of our stories are perfect or anything else, but we really try to look into things.

And for instance, I'm saying right now about civil war, there are people that want civil war.

They do want to tear the country apart.

I can tell you what the groups are.

I think

they are on the left, but there are also, as I said yesterday,

there are also people who, like Richard Spencer, you think the Nazis and the white supremacists don't want a civil war?

They don't want freedom either.

And same with the outside.

But if I say what MSNBC is now saying about civil war, and they're saying that it's all coming from white supremacy, but I say, well, yes, there might be some white supremacists that want that, but there's also these organizations that want it, Antifa's in the street calling for the destruction of America.

I'm somehow or another

unreasonable.

How do we bridge that?

Well, this is the thing.

So, you know, are there reasonable versions of each thing going on?

You know, are there new patriot movements where people are learning the Constitution, learning how to do homesteading?

You know, absolutely.

But then there's also accelerationists orienting towards civil war.

And which side is social media going to expose?

They're going to take a tiny percent of the worst side and they're going to expose them in a statistically much bigger and greater way of the evil parts, missing the good parts to the other side, right?

And that's going to disproportionately create a counter-response by the other side that says, well, if they're going to do that, then we're going to escalate this.

And then that's also going to take the least represented, most extreme view on, say, the left, on Antifa, right?

And so, and I'm not saying that

there's real legitimate problems on both sides here, but the problem is that it's selecting for the worst of us and making us hate each other.

And by the way, we're not going to get anything done as a country when that happens.

I mean, and do you think that when we're sort of devolved into conflict with ourselves, that our adversaries just sit around and

handle things inside their own countries, or do they want to take advantage of it?

And I think

there's this line that while we've been obsessed with protecting our physical borders, we left the digital border wide open.

Because if Russia are trying to try to fly

a bomb or cruise missile into the United States, they'll get shot down by the Department of Defense.

But when they try to fly an information missile into the United States, they're met by a Facebook algorithm that says, yeah, exactly, which zip code or personality do you want to target?

And they make it as easy as possible because the digital border is wide open.

So

they say, all of them say, they're trying to stop and suppress hatred and the division, et cetera, et cetera.

So

is any of that true?

Well, I think that they've been very slow on waking up to these problems, Glenn.

And that's actually why I think, and I'm not saying this as a self-promoter, I think the film is important for this reason.

Because at this point, the tech companies can't just fix what all of us are thinking and believing.

We're 10 years in to this social media washing machine that split us apart into these two different, almost like a, what do you call the centrifuges, you know, you spin them around, right, and they spread us apart on two completely different sides.

I think the only way to actually reverse that is to have a new cultural understanding about how this this hypnotic induction took place.

And I don't mean we've each been hypnotized to believe something is wrong.

I mean each of us have been hypnotized into these different bubbles of reality that are not compatible with each other.

And I'm really hoping that the film can actually, again, create a shared truth about the breakdown of our shared truth.

And so far, it seems to be working really well at having people say, you know, I want to have a conversation with my family.

And the best thing, by the way, you can do, if you see the film, is watch it with your family members, especially who might have different political beliefs than you.

And after you watch it, exchange, open up Facebook on both your phones and exchange your phone and look at the other person's news feed.

And you will be surprised that even with the same friends, because you're probably your husband or wife or whatever, you have many similar friends, you will see a completely different feed, which will show you, imagine if I was living in that world for the last 10 years.

Well, of course that person would be, say, concerned about climate change because their entire feed is so good climate change stories.

On the other side, of course, that person would be like, we've got to do something about Black Lives Matter because they just see infinite evidence of just people looting and rioting on the streets, right?

And that's the thing is we can't really see this because we've been so narrowly trapped in these realities.

And it really isn't an issue that can unite us because the whole thing is meant to divide us.

Tristan, I'm very glad that people like you exist.

I've talked to Ray Kurzweil about

ethics in Silicon Valley for a while.

He scares the hell out of me.

And I had

been praying for 20 years that Ethicist would wake up and start to really guide these companies.

I hope it's not too late.

I don't think it is.

But thank you for everything that you're doing.

The documentary, and you should watch it with your family.

Watch it with your whole family.

It's called The Social Dilemma.

It's not only going to show you how we're being divided, but it'll show you.

If you aren't convinced you're being watched and spied on, boy, you will understand why

and what's really going on.

It's the social dilemma, and it's on Netflix now.

Tristan, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

Thank you so much, Clark.

all right let me tell you about uh

rectech

are you still grilling outside or is it too hot for you because i'm still grilling outside not too hot for me oh yeah you have it easy you get a rectang yeah you you get to sit inside and then in the wonderful air conditioning

and i don't have to go out and check and then when it gets cold you're going to sit inside in the wonderful heat heat and then everything's going to be grilled perfectly and you're going to look at your phone and control your age.

Exactly.

Yes.

I don't want my phone controlling me, but I do want my phone controlling the RECTEC and the way my beef is being cooked.

It is RekTech has smart grill technology, which is just remarkable.

Literally, I can be at church on Sunday.

You remember when we used to go to churches?

Yeah, they still exist.

Anyway,

I can be at church on Sunday and I can start the grill

from church.

I mean,

it's great, so I know everything's going to be ready when I get home.

It has all kinds of sensors to make sure that your food is cooked to exactly the right temperature with its smart grill technology.

It's built like a Buick, man.

I mean, an old 56 Buick.

It's built out of

real

sturdy steel, and it's just great.

RekTech, it is the best grill on the market, especially at the price.

I mean, if this was sold,

you know, in Home Depot or wherever, it would be twice the price, but they've cut out the middleman.

And so it is, I mean, you're going to be amazed when you compare them side by side.

Look it up.

Go to R-E-C-T-E-Q, RechTechwithaQ.com.

That's rechtech.com.

The best grill out there and the last grill you're ever going to want to buy.

This is the Glenbeck program.

Stu, I have lost track of Elon Musk, but let me just give you the highlight of what I think has been going on.

This is what I've gotten.

Elon Musk, he was over.

He was a disaster.

He's broke.

He's got to sell his houses.

He can't even get a car out of the

shop.

He can't even get one off the line to sell.

So he's over.

Right.

Then Tesla, bigger than GM,

biggest car brand in the world.

He's rolling in the money.

He's a genius.

He's changing the world.

His stock is about to collapse.

He's over.

It's done.

What the hell is the truth on Elon Musk?

All of them are true.

And that's probably the issue.

I mean, I think the media stuff stuff recently, a lot of it has to do with, I think, his commentary recently.

The media has turned negative on him since he decided he wanted to open up his own factory in California.

Good for him.

Which, you know, is, you know, I don't think he cares all that much about that.

But I think his stock price, the hype was way too high.

Way too high.

But he's also, look, it's an amazing company.

I mean, they're doing amazing things, and it should be valued high.

Whether it should be valued more than every other company on Earth is a totally different reason.

Yeah, that's a little high.

But I have to tell you, you, it makes no sense.

This is 2020.

It makes no sense.

He's neither of those things.