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Today we say bye-bye to the Washington Redskins and hello to the Washington football team.

Quite a ring to it, huh?

Our good friend Brad Thor stops by to talk about his new book, Near Dark, and speaks with Glenn about this bizarre claim from the left that Donald Trump is trying to slowly move towards martial law.

Who would have thought that in the year 2020, out of all the craziness we've seen so far, that a state would want to secede?

Huh?

Glenn speaks with Michael McCarter, president of Greater Idaho.

That's a movement that's trying to move the Oregon border to be part of Greater Idaho.

We discuss whether or not that's even possible.

And finally, Charlemagne the God speaks out against Joe Biden.

Wow.

Telling him to shut up for calling President Trump the first racist president.

All of this greatness and a lot more coming up on the podcast.

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So did you watch opening day baseball yesterday?

I did not.

I was going to, but then I decided, no, I'm too tired.

I'm going to bed.

So I went to bed.

Oh, good for you.

Yeah.

Good for you.

Well, you missed every player and coach on the Yankees and Nationals kneel before the National Anthem.

Yeah, I saw it this morning.

I saw a a clip of it.

That was beautiful.

That was beautiful.

But it was before the national anthem.

So I did appreciate that they did it before, not during.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, they've got all the creativity now of, you know, the Washington, I'm sorry, I was going to say the Washington Reds said, the Washington football team.

Right.

Yeah.

Good God.

What a stupid.

Are you kidding me?

That's what you've come up with?

And I know it's only temporary, but that's even, that's stupid even temporarily.

Yes, it is.

The Washington football team.

Plus,

you've ignored maybe the worst part.

The Washington.

You're going to call the team after a slave owner?

How is that possible?

Right?

They should just be called football team, and then their jerseys should say kill the cops.

I mean, that's what America's all about.

That's what America's begging for.

Just football team

and kill the cops.

I think that's a really good one.

So,

did you see the

ad from Fox Sports?

Can we play this?

You read the title cards,

you know, in that sportscaster voice that you do.

Here's Fox Sports.

Listen to what they're promoting.

No fans?

Not on Fox Sports.

Thousands of virtual fans

will attend Fox's MLB games on Saturday.

And they're showing the digital fans are putting in the.

Wow.

Wearing their team's colors.

Yes, they'll even be doing the wave.

Really?

He's got him.

I mean.

He had him at hello.

They had you at hello.

They did.

Yeah, they did.

They had you at hello.

It's probably better than leaving the stadium empty.

It probably is.

And, you know,

empty and silent.

They're just training us to stay at home.

They're just training us to stay at home and everything is normal.

This is not normal.

You know, at least in

England,

or I think in Europe, the soccer stadiums are empty too.

But they're filling them with people like Osama bin Laden.

They got

the cardinal cutouts.

I mean, I think that's actually funny.

I kind of like that.

Well, you couldn't get away with that here, though.

People would go ape crap over that, right?

I mean, you.

Why did you use the word ape?

Oh, my gosh.

We were just talking about the Washington Redskins.

It had nothing to do with the Washington Redskins.

I'm now talking baseball, if I'm not mistaken.

Wow.

Offensive.

I was going to turn it.

Yeah.

It was very offensive.

To me, I'm apologizing to myself for even listening to you.

I'm sorry, Glenn, that you listened to him and

you forced me to listen.

And

I apologize.

It's okay.

It's okay.

Just don't let it happen again.

I won't.

Okay.

All right.

So

we're good with that.

You really like the.

I like it better than an empty stadium.

Yeah.

I mean, would I rather have real people in the stadium?

Yeah.

But I like it better than an empty stadium with no.

So in other words, fine, you're totally fine with the coronavirus and the hoax.

Yes, that's I'm sure that's what America is hearing right now.

Yes, I'm totally fine with this new normal.

This new normal is good for me.

Let's keep it going, guys.

I'm good.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

We could have virtual businesses and virtual restaurants, and I'm good.

Just,

you know, hook me up to the Matrix now.

That's exactly what I just said.

I don't like it.

I know.

I know.

We heard it.

It's racist.

The problem is,

I don't like the normalization of everything.

Well, yeah, I know.

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way,

that we're normalizing.

But I just want a feeling of normal during this time.

I know.

That's exactly what happens in a...

In a Marxist revolution, you don't care anymore.

You just want it to stop and you want it to go back to normal.

And so I understand it.

It's just something that you, Pat, have been by my side helping research and warning people.

When we get there, don't do that.

Yeah, but it's okay in sports.

It's fine in sports.

You just need it.

Right.

Okay.

All right.

No,

I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

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So there is a movement

now.

You know, when Trump first got into office, there were all these liberals who were like, I'm the 10th Amendment.

I love the 10th Amendment.

Oh, I thought it was racist.

No, it's a way for us to be able to control our state.

Hmm.

Yeah, it kind of makes sense.

And then we started seeing the insanity of many of these states, and COVID has only made it worse.

Well, Michael McCarter started something, move Oregon's border for a greater Idaho, because eastern Oregon residents

are sick to death.

of

Portland and all of the things that are going on with our state, and they would like to join Idaho.

Is that even possible?

It hasn't happened since Virginia seceded, and many of the people in Virginia went to a place we now know as West Virginia.

That happened during the Civil War because

of slavery.

We now have Michael on with us.

Hello, Michael.

How are you?

Good morning from crazy Oregon.

It is.

I mean, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, Michael, so I know about Cascadia and everything else.

It's been crazy for a long time.

But this is dangerous crazy now in Oregon.

Well, you know, Glenn, this is not something that's just started recently.

Oregon's been going downhill for years.

And

in watching everything that's taking place, we started last fall organizing Move Oregon's Oregon's border for greater Idaho, and then

the pandemic hit, and then,

you know, the riots hit and stuff.

And it just

supports our decision.

We don't have any faith in Oregon's leadership at all, period.

There are great parts of California and Oregon that feel the same way.

I mean, upstate New York York is like this.

But is there, first of all, have you talked to Idaho?

Is Idaho interest?

Are they taking your phone calls?

Yes, they are.

We've had some really good response from some of the representatives.

But, you know, I think there's a lot of people that are sitting on the sidelines just watching this, waiting to see what the vote's like and whether or not it,

you know, it's going to gain traction.

We're approaching.

So

who are the people that are in, and how much land are you talking about?

These are generally farmers and I looked at the map and there's a lot of national forest in there.

So how many people, how much land, and who are those people?

Well, basically, you're talking to, you know, in a lot of cases, second, third, fourth, fifth generation Oregonians that have an attachment to the land.

They're not transitional people that move up and down the West Coast, buy a house, live there three years, sell it, and move on.

These are people that have their roots in this state.

And,

you know,

they are they are there right now, they're ranchers, they're like you say, farmers that are out there, and they basically align themselves closer with Idaho's conservative values than with what's going on in Northwest Oregon.

But you know, Northwest Oregon's got about 75% of the population base and the vote.

And with that vote, they control what they want to do, no matter what we say or ask or try to input on.

They don't care.

So, Michael,

I'm in Idaho right now.

And by the way,

I am not a permanent resident

in Idaho, so I don't have voting rights.

But I would vote to get you in because you have

oceanfront property, which I think is very nice.

But

right now in Idaho, they're trying to get rid of their governor and recall him because even though he's a Republican, they think that he has gone way too far.

Idaho, except for the Boise area, which is about 800,000 people, is

they're ranchers and they're farmers and they're people who have lived here forever and they're common sense.

And they even think that Boise controls everything

and nobody's listening to the people in the rest of the state the exact same way that upstate New Yorkers feel.

New York City is different.

Yes.

Well, you know, the vote in Oregon, over 75% of the vote is in the Portland Metro Willamette Valley.

And so they control the whole works.

And

there's some resistance in Idaho about us, you know,

they don't want more people moving there and the liberal values moving there.

And we agree.

But eastern, central, and southern Oregon is over 65% conservative.

So we want to boost that conservative value that you see in Idaho right now.

We don't want to change it.

at all.

We don't want to move our property to Idaho.

It's simply a lot line adjustment between two states.

Right.

We align ourselves to the right.

Go ahead.

It can be done.

It it hasn't been done since the 1800s, but it can be done.

However, when you have the vote

on this, you're trying to raise enough signatures, as I understand it, maybe I'm wrong, to get it onto the ballot.

And if you get it onto the ballot, do the people in Portland and

Eugene, do they have to agree too?

I mean, because they have more people than you do.

So you're destined to lose if they are voting for it.

Well, we're taking this county by county in central, eastern and southern Oregon.

We want to hear what the county citizens think about this.

And it's we're trying to get that question, a question on the ballot for the November election.

Do we want our

county commissioners to start working towards the possibility of moving their county to a county of Idaho?

Now, if all 17 counties come out in favor of that, or one by one as we get them approved by the number of signatures, then it goes to the state legislature and then the battle really begins.

But it is possible for it to take place.

I mean, who would have thought years ago, 2015, that Donald J.

Trump would become the president of the United States?

Who would have thought, except for maybe people in Oregon, that

socialists and Marxists would be running

a city and a state in the United States and openly doing it?

Oh, well.

Let's go back 20-some years to Governor Morris.

He says, come visit, but don't stay.

He had that vision that we don't want those liberal policies up here in Oregon.

We are a free, independent state.

Well, right now, it's kind of like the

West Coast.

California, Oregon, and Washington on the West are all tied together.

And

it doesn't sit well with us by far.

So

we want to see what that vote is like.

And this election coming up, there's a major election in November.

It only happens once in every four years.

That's why we're pushing to get on that ballot, county by county.

Then it goes to the next.

How close are you to that?

Well,

we've got one county positive, one county at 98% of their signatures, and several more lined up right behind that with enough signatures.

But under COVID-19,

lockdown Kate Brown, it is extremely hard to go out and get signatures.

I mean,

people are just, you know, walk up with a mask on and grab some pin and try to sign on a clipboard.

Yeah.

It's hands-off.

I do know.

I can't remember which state it was, but they were trying to put something on the ballot, and they went to court

and made the case that

they can't get that number of signatures because of COVID-19.

And the court did reduce the amount of signatures that were required.

And it just happened the last few days, and I don't remember what state it was.

But you might want to look into that because it is hard to get that many signatures.

We filed in federal court

already for that same reason.

And we're not saying that people are wrong.

We filed against the governor, the Secretary of State, and all of the county clerks in these counties.

And it's saying, okay, I mean, common sense that the lockdown of COVID-19 is restricting the ability to get the number of signatures?

Of course it is.

Right.

So we're asking for some relief on that, just like these other cases have.

So it's in the courts right now here.

And you've got a good judge.

Do you know the judge yet?

Yes, we do.

We filed June 30th.

We've got an August 5th deadline to get all these signatures in county by county.

And so we filed for relief to reduce the number of signatures required and to extend that date to allow us to get more signatures in.

It was denied the first time,

and so we re-filed two days ago.

A motion?

I do see the map Oregon, and

it reduces it almost to the size of,

what, maybe a couple of Rhode Islands, maybe one Rhode Island.

Pat, have you seen this map?

Yeah, Idaho's huge under this plan.

And Oregon's just a teeny little sliver.

So,

Idaho becomes much bigger than Washington State.

Much.

Right now, a lot of the counties in eastern Oregon

are revenue-negative counties for the state.

If the state of Oregon removes those counties from their budgets, all of a sudden they've got a lot of money they can put into their liberal social programs.

Nice.

I like that.

Now, you should probably keep that to yourself when you're trying to convince Idaho.

How are you going to convince Idaho when you've used that with Oregon?

Yeah, but I think Idaho looks at those counties in a different way.

They're timber-friendly.

All of a sudden, like you say, they have a deepwater port in Coos Bay.

Yeah.

Where are all the products from Idaho going to ship through to go out to the Pacific Rim?

They're going to come across the

boom economically.

Yeah, it would be.

It would be.

All right.

Well, best of luck.

And will you stay in touch with us and tell us how it's going and if there's anything we can do to help?

Because I just think it's wrong.

California is in the same situation to where

all those farms and farmland in California are not being listened to.

They don't have any real representation.

And they're sick of it.

And

quite honestly, I think they should be allowed to

carve out

their own representation.

We're being controlled now by the big cities.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

If I can say anything more, Glenn, I would encourage any of the Oregon citizens that are listening to this, that are in our counties, to sign the petition, to vote.

I mean, we have bought into this that one person can't make a difference.

That is crap.

We need everybody to vote on it.

And then go to

our website, greateridaho.org, and give us a donation because we're grassroots, we're totally underfunded, and nobody is paid in this whole program.

It's all from the bottom up.

And this is a real bottom-up thing.

This is, obviously, George Soros is not helping them on this.

It's greateridaho.org.

Greateridaho.org.

And I will tell you:

if you're in Oregon Oregon now,

Idaho is really sweet.

And quite honestly, we need a few more farmers in here and a few more ranchers and a few more people that think like the vast majority of Idaho

because they're going to come up here and they'll wreck this state just as much as they wrecked Oregon for you.

We need to stick together.

I'm excited by the possibility.

It's going to be a dogfight, but I'm up for it.

Anything we we can do to help you, you just let us know: greateridaho.org.

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Joe Biden and what he said about Donald Trump being our first racist

president.

Yeah.

No, our first racist president.

First racist president.

Most racist.

Amazing.

Really?

That's amazing.

Yeah.

I was thinking, I don't know, Woodrow Wilson.

Yeah.

Andrew Jackson, perhaps.

Andrew Jackson would be a very good one, or maybe LBJ

would be a great one.

I mean, there were massive racist presidents,

all of them strangely Democrats, but,

you know, I'm just

for that.

For that matter, if I may add a potential one here, Barack Obama,

with his comments about typical white.

Yeah,

calling the president a racist?

That's the most racist thing.

Isn't that the same?

That's the most racist thing I've ever heard.

It used to be, but it doesn't seem to be anymore.

But with questions

or answers like this

about his grandma, typical white person.

Right.

Typical white person.

If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know,

there's a reaction that's reduced.

That's been bred.

That's been bred into her.

If anybody said that about a black person, can you imagine?

They'd still be harping about that to this day.

You'd be Jimmy the Greek.

You'd be Jimmy the Greek.

Yes.

It's remarkable.

And it's remarkable how

accurate we were on our questions about Barack Obama because he did harbor all of those things.

He did listen to Jeremiah Wright because Jeremiah Wright is practically running our country now.

At least the spirit of Jeremiah Wright is.

Have you seen next hour?

I think it's next hour, we're going to get into the

new board planks of

the Democratic platform.

Oh my gosh.

I don't know how you can vote for these people, but I don't know.

Good luck with with that.

And here's something that we played in the four-minute buzz.

If you're

watching this program on Blaze TV at the top of every hour, we have the four-minute buzz, and we go over some of the news.

And I saw this.

I did not see this yesterday, but I think this is from MSNBC.

I want you to listen to what this person is actually saying when they were talking about sending federal forces in to protect the federal buildings in Chicago and in Seattle and in Portland.

Listen to this analysis.

This is what would happen if you were an authoritarian president who was preparing to resist a loss in the election.

You would be saying the things Donald Trump is saying and you would be gradually rolling out federal police power into the states against the wishes of the mayors and governors in question.

This is how it would happen.

This is how the movie would play out.

And anybody who's not looking at this with a state of alarm and concern and worried about is this president going to employ formally martial law at some point, as Ron Wyden suggested yesterday,

is that on the president's mind?

Is there anybody having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way he could stay in power?

Yeah, that would be me.

Yeah, there's me.

I've been watching Donald Trump.

I've been watching Donald Trump in the most

easily authoritarian time, perhaps in my lifetime, not take any of the authoritarian powers.

And then I've seen

crazy stuff happening in the states, happening with governors who keep crying that Donald Trump is an authoritarian, and yet they seem to be the authoritarians.

No, I don't think this is what he's doing,

putting soldiers on the street so he can declare martial law for the election.

That is that is dangerous rhetoric and and far, far beyond anything I ever said.

Anything I ever said about Barack Obama.

I take back all of my apologies to you.

No, no, no, no.