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Hello, America, and welcome to Friday.

Oh my golly, we've got quite a program for you today.

It's not actually me, I'm a cardboard cutout that is in this seat because, well, we know you're a fan of this program, but because of COVID, we can't actually have any of our real hosts here.

So behind me and here at Home Plate, I'm going to put some extra cardboard cardboard cutouts of some of the fans of the show.

And we might even digitize you so you can laugh and cheer and boo at the appropriate times.

Why not?

Major League Baseball is doing it.

One of the

real quintessential American pastimes.

Major League Baseball.

One of the slowest, most boring, excruciating games on the planet.

Well, but we like it because it's real.

It's real.

Not so much.

Can I take you back in a time machine to when baseball and opening day and baseball and the World Series actually meant something and there were no cardboard cutouts behind home plate?

We're going to begin there in one minute.

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I was 11 years old.

It was the summer of 1975.

I contend it was the summer that my dad and I won Game 6 of the World Series.

And I remember it like it was yesterday.

You know those kind of memories that you can...

You can smell the memory.

You can smell the house.

You can smell the grass.

Everything is just so vivid.

The way grass smells right after it's been cut in the summer.

You can see the way the sun would shine and it would come through the living room window and bounce off the hardwood floor every morning.

You slept with your window open and you could feel the cool breeze in the morning.

Do you remember what it felt like every day running and playing, just being a kid?

Summertime meant something.

Summertime.

We don't crave the summer just for the sun.

We crave it because

it was...

it was the most important time in our life.

I don't know if it's like this for kids anymore.

But it was in the summer that you became who you are.

You became your own person.

You developed a life of your own.

It's where you found what you love

and later who you love.

When I was 11 years old, I found what I love.

Radio.

Radio in a bizarre way.

And my love of baseball through the radio.

But it was all tangled up in summer.

And one summer, it just consumed me.

My passion.

Every single day that summer, nine o'clock, I would meet with Jim and Freddie and my best friend Mike,

along with seven or eight other interchangeable stragglers and we'd make about a two-mile hike into into a rundown field.

It was right off of Main Street behind the hardware store.

And none of us had a $200 aluminum bat or a case of brand new baseballs and nobody was watching us.

We had an old wooden bat that had been given to Freddie by his older brother.

He had cracked it at practice so we took some tape and we bound that bat up.

held together by the tape.

The grip was so worn that you were sure to go home with a splinter or two every single day.

The ball we had found in the woods,

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, so it was a little waterlogged.

It had been there for a few months, so it was more of a shot put than a baseball.

But that didn't stop us.

Every day,

all day,

we'd be there, and we wouldn't stop for anything, except for the trek over to the store on the corner where we would get a Coke or some bazooka bubble gum.

and we'd all pretend we were in the major leagues.

We'd stand there for hours with a stick in your hand, swinging away against imaginary pitchers, practice rounding the bases, winning the game, the last game of the World Series.

Those were remarkable summer days.

But then

the real excitement came when I came home.

Because we'd rush through dinner and we'd clean our rooms so we could sit in front of the TV.

And our mom would say, don't sit so close.

You're going to get eye cancer.

But we were able to watch the first few innings of the game, but only the first few innings because mom and dad were both sticklers for bedtime.

Even during the summer, we're like, there's no homework.

There's no school.

We'd beg, we'd complain, we'd scream, we'd argue, we'd do, you know, I'm just down for a drink of water.

I just need, we did all the tricks.

Never got me past the fourth inning.

Sometime in the fourth inning, my dad would drag me up to bed, and that would be the end of my baseball adventure for another day.

Or so he thought.

It was early that summer that I discovered what I like to call the vent.

I think it's where I get my love for radio.

We had this old house, and there was this big old black iron vent at the top of the stairs.

And it served as a tunnel straight to the ballpark.

We'd get tucked in.

I'd wait for mom to go to bed.

And then I'd slowly open the door and my head would peek out and I would creep towards the hallway.

I'd carefully place my feet in a pattern that I had diligently created.

It took me a long time to find out exactly which boards creaked and which ones didn't.

Then I would slowly get on my hands and knees and I would place my face, my ear, to that cold vent.

I can still feel the cold steel up against my face and the sound of the TV.

I couldn't see any pictures.

I had to make them in my mind.

As that sound would make its way up the metal tube and spill out into a picture painted by words.

A picture that was so vivid in my imagination that I felt like I had front row seats right behind home plate.

I had a hot dog in my hand, a soda, a box of cracker jacks.

I could smell the grass.

I remember listening to the World Series I'd hear.

It was between the Reds and the Red Sox.

And while the broadcasters were artists with their words,

it was a number that stuck out in my head most of all, and that number was 1918.

1918.

The Red Sox hadn't won the World Series since 1918, but this year,

they had to win because I wanted them to.

My dad wanted them to.

I sat there in the hallway night after night.

My knees, I swore, were bruising.

My back would ache.

Just waiting for the moment that the Red Sox would do the impossible and defeat the big red machine.

Five nights of heart-pounding suspense.

Red Sox were down three games to two.

By this time now, the summer had ended.

School had returned.

My bedtime was strictly enforced.

It was October 21st, I remember the date, October October 21st, 1975.

I remember everything.

It was right after the second inning that I had to go upstairs, kicking and screaming, I just need another drink of water.

I can still remember my dad saying me, don't worry, I'll tell you about it in the morning.

After I gave up, and as I was kind of stomping up the stairs, I remember thinking, you're not going to have to tell me.

I know I don't have to wait until tomorrow because I have the vent.

And as I hit the top of the stairs, I quickly washed up and climbed into my bed and waited to hear my mom pass by my door,

check on it, see if I was sleeping.

I was good at pretending.

I waited in my bed for five long World Series minutes.

Five minutes.

I heard her come up the stairs.

I heard her close her door.

Her night was over.

And mine had just begun.

I remember getting up

carefully.

Oh, so carefully.

Stepping out of my room, creeping across the floor, putting my feet in exactly the right spots.

Make sure there wasn't a sound or a creak from the floorboard.

And I slowly, carefully

made my way to the vent.

Down on my hands and knees, my face pressed up against the cold steel.

That's when everything changed.

I wasn't there for very long when I heard a sound.

I heard the sound.

It was a unique sound.

There was nothing else in the house that sounded like this, especially if you're listening for this sound.

If this sound is trouble, when you hear this sound, you don't miss it.

It was the sound that only my father could make when he pulled the squeaky lever on his tattered, you know, vinyl recliner.

I instantly broke into a cold sweat.

He's getting out of his chair.

Now, some things in life are certain.

There's death, there's taxes, and there's dad sitting in his favorite chair watching America's pastime.

Okay, okay, okay.

Don't panic, don't panic, don't panic.

He's just going to the fridge.

He's getting another beer.

Don't panic.

He's got to go to the bathroom.

I'm sure that's what it is.

He's not coming upstairs.

I haven't made a sound.

But I could hear the squeak of the floors downstairs, and they were not headed toward the kitchen or the bathroom.

They were headed towards the stairs.

I sat there, paralyzed, seemingly unable to move.

I don't know what happened to me.

I could not move.

I don't know when it dawned on me that it was too late.

There's no way I could get out of here and go back to bed because I'd have to run across the floor.

I'd give myself away.

This is the first moment as a kid.

I mean, when you were a little kid, maybe, but this was, I was, I was becoming an adult, and yet this was the first moment that I

really willed myself to be invisible.

I am invisible.

He will not see me.

Yeah, that didn't work.

Maybe it occurred to me when I heard the creak of the first stair that

he wasn't walking up the stairs, but he was sneaking up the stairs.

My dad seemed to have the same kind of abilities that I was developing.

We had something in common.

I heard the creak of the first stair and then the second and then the third and my mind began to scramble for an excuse.

I had to go to the bathroom and I just fell.

I dropped something down the vent, Dad.

And I was like, I didn't have a good excuse.

He was almost at the top of the stairs, and I could see the back of my dad's bald head.

I just sat there like a deer in headlights.

My only defense.

I was just hoping that I wasn't going to get run over in this accident like that deer.

I stared at my father.

He stopped at the top of the stairs, his back still facing me.

He still hadn't seen me.

He paused.

I was frozen.

And then he turned.

But the way he turned, he turned and looked straight directly at me.

He knew I was there with the vent.

I wondered if he had known I had been there every night before.

I sat there and I waited a very loud and unbearable punishment and my dad

looked at me and I looked up to him, guilty eyes, begging for lenience.

And I just said

hi

he looked at me and he smiled and he shook his head and he said come downstairs

I thought I was going to get the punishment of my life

and then he said and don't wake your mother

the two of us both tipped back down the stairs And we sat there trying to contain our excitement as the game went into extra innings.

I'd never seen a smile on my dad's face like this.

I knew if just the two of us had rooted hard enough that the Red Sox would win.

They couldn't lose because my dad and I were now in it together.

It was the bottom of the 12th inning.

Upsteps Carlton Fisk,

Red Sox catcher, first pitch up and in, ball one.

Palms were sweating in anticipation.

Pat Darcy, Cincinnati pitcher, began his wind-up and my dad said, this is it, this is it.

He was right.

Darcy released a sinker down and in.

Fisk just belted it down the line.

My dad stood up and yelled, stay fair, stay fair.

And as if any thought of my mom sleeping was completely gone and disappeared with a crack of the bat.

Stay fair, he kept screaming.

Even Fisk was standing on the plate with both hands waving, trying to wheel the ball fair.

My dad and I were both now standing, screaming, stay fair!

Some people would say that my dad and I had nothing to do with the World Series that year.

Some would say that a father and a son can't make a ball stay fair.

But I know in my heart, I know that's not true.

The ball banged off the metal mesh of the pole and it was fair.

It was a home run.

It won the game.

My dad and I were just screaming.

We were jumping so much, I think we woke up the entire neighborhood in the process.

Well, everybody except my mother.

But we didn't care.

And once everything calmed down, it was just me and my dad standing there,

staring at the TV and then at each other.

Our shoulders were squared back.

Fisk could hit the ball,

but we were the ones that kept it fair.

The Red Sox would go on to lose Game 7, but it didn't matter.

I had spent a night with my dad that neither of us would ever forget.

My dad and I won Game 6 of the World Series, and we won it together.

As I look back on

that night in October,

I can't help but think that the only way

that this could have been better

would be if

just one word of this story

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I don't know about you, but I loved the cardboard cutouts.

I didn't even watch the game, but I've seen some highlights, and

I've seen a promotion for

Fox Sports where they're saying they're going to digitize the crowds.

No.

No.

I'm not even a baseball fan.

I didn't really even know anything about the Red Sox at all, or that they were even ever in a World Series.

Next.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, did you watch opening day baseball yesterday?

I did not.

I was going to, but then I decided, no, I'm too tired.

I'm going to bed.

So, I went to bed.

Oh, good for you.

Good for you.

Well, you missed every player and coach on the Yankees and Nationals kneel before the National Anthem.

Yeah, I saw it this morning.

I saw a clip of it.

That was beautiful.

That was beautiful.

But it was before the national anthem.

So I did appreciate that they did it before, not during.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, they've got all the creativity now of, you know, the Washington.

I'm sorry, I was going to say the Washington Reds said, the Washington football team.

Right.

Yeah.

Good God.

What a stupid.

Are you kidding me?

That's what you've come up with?

And I know it's only temporary, but that's even, that's stupid, even temporarily.

Yes, it is.

The Washington football team.

Plus,

you've ignored maybe the worst part.

The Washington,

you're going to call the team after a slave owner?

How is that possible?

Right?

They should just be called football team, and then their jerseys should say kill the cops.

I mean, that's what America's all about.

That's what America's begging for.

Just football team

and kill the cops.

I think that's a really good one.

So

did you see the

ad from Fox Sports?

Can we play this?

You read the title cards,

you know, in that sportscaster voice that you do.

Here's Fox Sports.

Listen to what they're promoting.

No fans?

Not on Fox Sports.

Thousands of virtual fans

will attend Fox's MLB MLB games on Saturday

and they're showing the digital fans are putting in the wow

wearing their team's colors

yes they'll even be doing the wave

really

he's got him I mean he had him at hello they had you at hello

yeah they did they had you at hello it's probably better than leaving the stadium empty it probably is and you you know no empty and silent

training us to stay at home they're just training us to stay at home and everything is normal this is not normal

you know at least in uh in england uh the or i think in europe the soccer stadiums are empty too

but they're filling them with people like osama bin laden

yeah the cardinal cutouts i mean i think that's that's actually funny i kind of like that well you couldn't you couldn't get away with that here though.

People would go ape crap over that, right?

I mean,

why did you use the word ape?

Oh, my gosh.

We were just talking about the Washington Redskins.

It had nothing to do with the Washington Redskins.

I'm now talking baseball, if I'm not mistaken.

Wow.

Offensive.

Was that offensive?

Yeah.

It was very offensive to me.

I'm apologizing to myself for even listening to you.

I'm sorry, Glenn, that you listened to him and

you forced me to listen.

And

I apologize.

It's okay.

It's okay.

Just don't let it happen again.

I won't.

Okay.

All right.

So

we're good with that.

You really like the.

I like it better than an empty stadium.

Yeah.

I mean, would I rather have real people in the stadium?

Yeah, but I like it better than an empty stadium with no.

So in other words,

you're totally fine with the coronavirus and the hoax.

Yes, I'm sure that's what America is hearing right now.

Yes, I'm totally fine with it.

This new normal is good for me.

Let's keep it going.

I'm good.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

We could have virtual businesses and virtual restaurants, and I'm good.

Just,

you know, hook me up to the Matrix now.

That's exactly what I just said.

I don't like it.

I know.

I know.

We heard it, racist.

The problem is,

I don't like the normalization of everything.

Well, yeah, I know.

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way,

that we're normalizing.

But I just want a feeling of normal during this time.

I know.

That's exactly what happens in

a Marxist revolution.

You don't care anymore.

You just want it to stop and you want it to go back to normal.

And so I understand it.

It's just something that you, Pat, have been by my side helping research and warning people.

When we get there, don't do that.

Yeah, but it's okay in sports.

It's fine in sports.

You just need it.

Right, okay.

All right.

No,

I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

Can we talk about some

real problems?

You know,

and I hate to be all moralistic, but if you're cheating on your spouse, I think

we all know that that's bad, right?

Yeah,

we do.

We do.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

What would you compare it to,

Pat?

What would I compare cheating on your spouse to?

Yeah, like how bad of, you know.

Well, I would place it right under murder.

I would place it just under murder on the scale of badness.

So

murder and then there's cheating on your spouse.

Really?

Yes.

If you murder your spouse that you were cheating on, is that double the crime?

Or is it just like,

they're both kind of the same?

So

only one.

It's really only one sin.

But it's a big one.

Well,

Americans are very, very clear on

how bad it is.

A poll of a thousand people found that one in ten consider their significant other eating at McDonald's without them is as bad as cheating on them.

What?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, eating at McDonald's without them

is like cheating on them.

Wow.

Now, I do kind of understand that.

You know, I,

if she eats at McDonald's,

I'm I'm okay as long as she brings me like a large Coke or

fries or something like that.

But if she's eating there and I get into her car and it smells like McDonald's and I say, did you just eat at McDonald's?

I do feel a little dirty.

I do feel a little dirty.

Yeah, I mean, first of all, it's hard for me to even imagine my wife at McDonald's because that would just not happen.

But that's sad.

You know,

I would think

that

if you watch a Netflix series that you're watching together, and then when she goes to bed early and you sneak upstairs and watch it alone one night, that's like cheating on your spouse.

Right?

That would be closer.

That would be closer.

I don't know.

I'm a very big food person, so

the McDonald's thing is more meaningful to you.

That's not that I, no,

not that I have hid McDonald's rappers and stuff and then driven home with the windows open, even in the blazing heat, so it doesn't smell like McDonald's.

And

not that I have ever watched an episode only to have my wife go, Did you?

Did you watch this video?

Did you already watch this?

No.

Not that I've done either one of those things, but it does make you, yeah, it does make you feel a little dirty.

It does feel like you've been out swinging or something

when she looks at you and she's like, and you're like, that's the worst that it gets.

That's as bad as it gets in our relationship, honey.

Yeah, I did watch the episode without you,

but

that's, I mean, that's the worst thing that you have to worry about.

Right, so

you didn't have sex with any of the cast members, not a one of them.

So, right.

And, you know, it's worse than you think.

I watched the whole damn series

and I'm watching

And I'm watching it a second time pretending that I've only watched this episode without you and you've done that, haven't you?

You've, I think you've had experience with that.

No, no, no, no, no.

Okay, I'm going to come clean.

Maybe one or

two or all of the series that we watch together because she just

watched them.

She's always like, oh.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

And so, you know, by the time we get to the next episode, I've forgotten that I've watched the whole series.

It's been so long.

And it's like, you know, you won't commit to just being lazy and sitting on the couch, sweetheart.

And until you commit,

I can't help you.

I just can't help you.

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You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Oh, yes,

from the Standing Rock Ranch.

On Monday, I'll be back in the Mercury Studios.

We're thrilled to be able to go back to Texas, a great state of Texas, which is about 157 degrees right now.

And there's nothing like going back into

Texas in the middle of the summer.

But the good news is we've got August in front of us, so that's really, really, really good.

Man, I miss already, I mean, every night this week as we're getting ready to go home,

I've opened up the windows in the night and went,

I'm not going to do this for another year.

That's for sure.

There's nothing like the

West Coast, I think, has the best

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Anything west of the Rockies has the best weather in the country, I think.

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Did you see Joe Biden and what he said about Donald Trump being

president?

Yeah.

No, our first racist president.

First racist president.

Most racist.

Amazing.

Really?

That's amazing.

Yeah.

I was thinking, I don't know, Woodrow Wilson.

Yeah.

Andrew Jackson, perhaps.

Andrew Jackson would be a very good one, or maybe LBJ

would be a great one.

I mean, there were massive racist presidents,

all of them, strangely Democrats, but,

you know, I'm just

for that matter, if I may add a potential one here.

Barack Obama, with his comments about typical white.

Calling the president a racist?

I thought there's some

racist thing I've ever heard?

It used to be, but it doesn't seem to be anymore.

But with questions

or answers like this

about his grandma.

Typical white person.

Right.

Typical white person.

If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know,

there's a reaction that's been bred into her.

That's been bred.

That's been bred into her.

If anybody said that about a black person, can you imagine?

They'd still be harping about that to this day.

You'd be Jimmy the Greek.

You'd be Jimmy the Greek.

Yes.

It's remarkable.

And it's remarkable how

I don't know, accurate we were on our questions about Barack Obama because he did harbor all of those things.

He did listen to Jeremiah Wright because Jeremiah Wright is practically running our country now.

At least the spirit of Jeremiah Wright is.

Have you seen next hour?

I think it's next hour we're going to get into the

new board planks of

the Democratic platform.

Oh my gosh.

I don't know how you can vote for these people, but I don't know.

Good luck with that.

And here's something that we played in the four-minute buzz.

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And I saw this.

I did not see this yesterday, but I think this is from MSNBC.

I want you to listen to what this person is actually saying when they were talking about sending federal forces in to protect the federal buildings in Chicago and in Seattle and in Portland.

Listen to this analysis.

This is what would happen if you were an authoritarian president who was preparing to resist a loss in the election.

You would be saying the the things Donald Trump is saying, and you would be gradually rolling out federal police power into the states against the wishes of the mayors and governors in question.

This is how it would happen.

This is how the movie would play out.

And anybody who's not looking at this with a state of alarm and concern and worried about is this president going to employ formally martial law at some point, as Ron Wynen suggested yesterday, is that on the president's mind?

Is there anybody, having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way he could stay in power?

Yeah, that would be me.

Yeah, there's me.

I've been watching Donald Trump.

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And then I've seen

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No, I don't think this is what he's doing,

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It's just a softening of the people's will

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to schlep his new novel.

How are you doing, Brad?

I am doing very well, my friend.

How are you, Glenn?

I'm great.

I'm really excited about Neardark.

It's a great, great book.

I want to talk to you about it here in a second.

Sure.

You have totally changed

your main character.

He's not the same.

Scott is.

If you read the last novel, and you don't have to read all of the novels in order to be able to get it, but he's a different man coming into this novel.

We'll talk about that here in a second.

First, can I play something for you?

And I want to get your opinion because you are a guy who war games.

And I believe we are in the middle of an American revolution.

We have communists, we have Islamists,

we have Marxists and radicals and

Antifa.

They're all gathered together and they are being coordinated, I believe, by some of the leaders of the Democratic Party and some of the big financiers of the Democratic Party to

have a revolution in our country.

Is that far-fetched, Brad?

I don't think it's far-fetched.

I haven't seen anything.

You talk to some different people that I do as far as coordination.

I think we've lost our way, and I don't think

if you, if you are not unifying people, they naturally drift and divide.

And I think we lack a unifying force in this country, particularly now.

All right, Brad,

I'm going to give you a pass because I know you've been working on your book, and I know what that's like.

You completely are in a cone of silence, but I'm going to assign you the last four shows, the last four episodes of my TV show, the Wednesday night special, and you watch them and then you come back and tell me this isn't well coordinated.

This is

too much.

This is

okay, this is evil, what's going on.

But

let me just play one thing.

This is what

all of the TV analysts are now saying about Donald Trump sending in the DHS, which I don't want.

And I talked to the leader of the DHS yesterday.

I talked to the acting secretary.

I said, we do not want a national police force.

How are you doing this constitutionally?

He explained it.

And he explained exactly what they're doing.

This is, however, what the left on television is saying.

Listen to this.

If he loses, and I expect that he will, we have to be prepared for things that this nation has never faced before.

And unfortunately, that could involve the use of

these forces.

It has been suggested that this is a trial run for the President of the United States, who may be organizing to not accept

what happens when we have the election.

I think we should all take very seriously the prospect that this is, as I say, a dress rehearsal, a trial run.

If you don't draw a line in the sand, this country may be looking down the barrel of martial law in the middle of an election.

This is, I guess, the president's own version of martial law since the real military has kind of pushed back a little bit.

Is there anybody, having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years, who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way he could stay in power?

Yeah, yeah, that would be me.

I thought he would be a dictator, and he has avoided every single thing that the left has been trying to push him into.

But anyway, go ahead.

Your analysis here, Brad.

I'm confused because, yes, I have been paying attention to the news.

Is he trying to enact martial law?

Is he trying to lose the election?

They can't have it both ways.

It depends on what day you tune in.

One day he's actively trying to throw the election.

The next day, it's martial law.

This is ridiculous.

This is ridiculous.

And it is even beneath our fellow citizens on the other side of the aisle.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

The president has every right, and he actually has a duty to protect federal buildings, particularly in cities where the mayors have lost control, and they will not protect private property or government property.

So

they're not protecting.

Brad, you and I.

You and I both are constitutionalists.

We both don't like the idea of any kind of federal control on anything, quite frankly, and I'm more down that road than you are.

However,

when the President of the United States has states in rebellion, which I think the city of Portland is in rebellion, the city of Chicago is in rebellion, when they're in rebellion and they are not protecting the people, and in Chicago, you have the, I think it was the chief of police or the commissioner that reached out to the White House and said, we need help.

Our mayor is out of control.

What are you going to do?

He's not going in and becoming the police force.

He's saying, I've got to protect federal property and federal buildings.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

And there's also nothing wrong with beefing up existing federal task forces that work with local law enforcement to stem child sex trafficking, to solve murders, to stem the flow of drugs.

This is silly.

And by the way, you know what the silliest thing is that I hear from people?

That the DHS guys are driving around in vans.

You know why they're driving around in vans?

They're on TDY assignments.

Do you want them each to rent their own car and stick taxpayers with that?

I'd rather see them in vans so you can get six guys in a van.

The idea that somehow this is a secret police force that is disappearing people in Portland is ridiculous.

But this is the age we live in.

It's all about who can get the bigger headline, who can create more of a dramatic, I mean, these politicians will have great careers in Hollywood.

In fact, I wish they'd all leave D.C.

and go to Hollywood.

We'd get much better movies out of these people.

All right, let's talk about your new novel, Near Dark, because the thing I like about you is I've always called your books faction because they're not pure fiction.

They're faction.

And you always have

really great historical points that even I don't know.

And they're all buried gems.

I love reading your novels with Google close to me so I can, because I used to, at the very beginning, you know, probably on book three,

I would go, that can't be true, and I'd Google it.

Now, whenever I'm reading your books, I'm like, I can't believe that's true, and I Google it to look up the real story.

So

can we start with just some of the cool history from the book?

Sure, absolutely.

Okay.

Do you want me to

put things here with?

Yeah.

Yeah, I've got them, but you go ahead.

You can pick out a couple of things, and we'll see if they're the same.

Well,

it's fun for me if you pick them out because I like to know what you liked.

Okay.

You made references to the Brenner assignment, the most dangerous spy mission undertaken in World War II.

Tell me the Brenner assignment.

So the Brenner assignment was carried out by the precursor to the CIA, our wartime military

intelligence units, where we dropped all of these OSS operatives behind enemy lines in Italy to blow up a rail line that was helping to supply the Nazis.

The Brenner Assignment is a great nonfiction book.

Patrick O'Donnell, by the way, I've become friends with him on Twitter.

If you ever get a chance to interview him, he's a brilliant interview.

And he wrote the book, The Brenner Assignment.

He went and did his research in the area.

It is this dramatic.

It all happens during the wintertime.

There's a love affair with the Contessa that's helping hide an American spy.

Typical snafus, they can't get resupplied.

And the Nazis are doing what's called a Ristrepo with the Italians.

And they are going village to village hunting these Americans.

And it is like Marcus Luttrell, lone survivor, meets

one of the old World War II where eagles dare sort of a thing.

It's incredible.

Tell me about the history of the monks and the nuns in Mont Saint-Michel.

So Mont Saint-Michel is one of my favorite places on earth, and I've always wanted to include it in a thriller.

And I did in this one.

Mont Saint-Michel is a fortified village with it's on a tidal island near the beaches in Normandy.

And so,

when the tides come in at night, it is completely surrounded, and

it's never been taken in battle.

And it's got this beautiful abbey with this gorgeous church on top, and one of the most visited sites in Europe.

It's been, it was discovered by an Irish monk.

He settled there first in the 8th century, and it's been consistently developed and redeveloped through different kings and the church.

You have to look it up online.

It is gorgeous.

It had to be the cover of the book.

That's why we used it.

So beautiful.

Let me just go to one that I know has a great story because you touch on it in the book.

The excerpt about

Camp David,

the Nikita Khrushchev visit in 59, and then I I think even crazier is the part of the book where you talk about Nixon in 1973.

So tell the two stories there.

So it is

funny because I gave the national security advisor for President Trump, who is a good friend of mine, Robert O'Brien, and I sent him an early copy of the book.

And he read it, and he called me up and he said, When did you get invited to Camp David?

I said, I've never been to Camp David.

He goes, it's impossible.

He said, the stuff you describe in this book can only mean that you've been there.

He was very funny.

My favorite story is it was, I believe, Brezhnev and Nixon, right?

When he gets, I talk about how he gets given.

It was Khruzhev.

It was Khruzchev.

First, it was Khruzhav

that went to Camp David and loved all of the cowboy movies.

Yes, they sat.

Yes, they sat together.

He and the president sat together and they watched all of those cowboy movies together.

It was a really neat.

They actually stayed in the same cabin at Camp David, which is so weird.

Think about it.

Yeah, can you imagine?

I mean, it's really a...

No.

The two of them in the same cabin, up like teenagers, watching, you know, high noon and the gunfight at O.K.

Corral.

That is just a time that does not come back.

Does not come back.

No.

And then in 1973, tell me we gave, and I'd love to know even the story of this car, but we gave Leonard Brezhnev

a Lincoln Continental that Ford Motor Company donated, and Nixon gave him the car because he apparently loved American cars.

He did.

He did.

And so Nixon said, would you like to take it for a spin?

And he said, yes, through his interpreter, and they jumped into the car without interpreters and without their security details.

And Brezhnev took off, like floored this thing.

I mean, this is a, I mean, the engines and those things were huge, and this is a fast car.

And he can't read English.

And there is a sign coming up for basically a right angle.

And Nixon is telling him to slow down, slow down.

And Brezhnev's smile is just getting bigger and bigger.

And he's pinning the accelerator to the floor of this thing.

And this curve is coming up.

Nixon knows the curve is coming up.

And he's begging him to slow down.

And at the last minute, Brezhnev sees it, puts the brakes on, steers into the curve.

The two of them were almost killed in this car at Camp David.

Where did you find that story?

It's out there.

You have to dig.

You have to dig.

You have to have sources.

You have to have ways to find it.

But I found it.

It's a great story.

I mean, that's just a great story.

Do you know what happened?

Do you know what happened to the car?

Did he take it back to Russia?

You know what?

I did not further it.

I'm assuming it did go back to Russia.

I mean, Ford gave him the car.

It wasn't just to tool around at Camp David with.

That's why they have the golf cart.

Yeah.

So I bet he took it back.

It's kind of neat to know where it is now.

Yeah, it would be.

It would be.

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So, Brad Thor's series of books, this is the 19th in the Scott.

How do you say his last name?

I hate your character's last name because I can't.

Harvath.

Harvath.

Okay, so

Scott, the last book, book,

I mean,

hell came running down on him and his bride and everything else.

And he opens up and he's a different man.

He is a broken man when this opens up.

So let's start there.

First of all, you don't have to read the other books to be able to jump into this one, and they're all really good.

So take us through what Near Dark is about.

So Near Dark, the theme of darkness plays throughout this thriller.

And I mean, that's what this is.

This is, you coined the term faction, where you don't know where the facts end and the fiction begins.

So this opens up basically with Harvath at the lowest point in his life.

Personally, professionally, he was staying at a resort in one of the keys, and they kick him out because he's drinking himself to death in the bar, and he starts a fight.

And he ends up in a dive bar drinking chic booze at the end of the road in Key West.

And he doesn't want to go on living.

He's had everything taken from him.

This is a guy who's given himself over and over again for his country.

And now everybody he loves is gone.

They've been slaughtered and he doesn't want to keep going.

And he's in a bar, he's drinking, and two guys walk in.

And Glenn, you've spent enough time with these guys to know that no matter where they are, what's going on, there's a part of them that never dies, that always pays attention, notices details, picks up when something's wrong.

And Harvath's fighty senses kick in when these two guys walk into the bar.

What he doesn't know is as odd as they are and as out of place and the things he's seeing that are all wrong, they're there for him.

If this was a movie poster for this book, the tagline on it would be, a hundred million dollar bounty has just been placed on the head of America's top spy.

And that's Harvath.

So he's sitting in this bar, slow-motion suicide.

These guys show up and they're there to kill him.

And it is just, you light the fuse on the rocket right there and it takes off.

You get a couple minutes to really feel his pain, just a couple of very quick pages, and you really connect with this guy.

And then these two walk into the bar and you're like, wait a second.

And so he, I reached out to one of my sources and I said, if somebody put a hundred million dollar bounty on you, you're at the lowest point of your life, what would you do?

And he said, you got to turn it over.

We're going to get that answer here.

Gonna get that.

Hang on, get that answer from Brad Thor here in just a minute.

Stand by.

More with Brad Thor after the break.

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And one of my favorite guests, because you never know what he's going to say.

Sometimes he'll get you kicked off a network.

His name is Brad Thor and welcome to the program, Brad.

Thank you, Glenn.

Good to be with you.

Yeah, good to be with you.

I do have a bone to pick before we get back to your story.

I do have a bone to pick with you.

It's 19 novels.

Is there anyone other than yourself that has sold more books for you

than you or me?

Well, let's get ourselves canceled.

You are my Oprah.

I have said this forever.

Nobody moves more books than Glenn Beck,

particularly in this genre.

My body is too high for Oprah.

You are my Oprah, Glenn.

Yeah, way too.

Yeah, thank you very much.

Okay, so I mean, one simple request: one character at one time

listening to the Glenn Beck program or watching the Glenn Beck program or, you know, signing up to become a member of Blaze TV.

Is it too much to ask after 19 books?

Shame on me.

Shame

on my hair shirt

as I find the next novel, just to remind me.

Do it.

All right, because

if it's not in the next novel, I might give you an iffy review.

I might.

I might do it.

I might do it.

Okay.

All right, so Brad.

Are you doing the Tanya voice and then the rolling pin slips like 27 times?

I think it was a murder to open the book.

I don't think.

I don't think spouse will abuse.

And she doesn't need a rolling,

she doesn't need a rolling pin.

She'd just come right at me with her, I got you now, my pretty.

And she would choke the life out of me.

All right, so that was one of the things that I wondered about at the beginning of the book because Scott goes back into action, but if he wants to just kill himself,

why doesn't he just let them do it?

That's a great question.

Why doesn't he do it?

And actually, that's the first thing that happens to the book.

Somebody comes to his rescue.

He doesn't do it.

So somebody comes to his rescue, and that's what

sets the game going.

But what's interesting for me is when I did this $100 million bounty on Harvet's head, and I talked to some of my guys in the special operations world, the intelligence community, I said, what would you do if this happened to you?

You You know, and

how do you figure out?

And these guys are after you.

And he goes, Brad, first of all, I will never become the mouse.

I am always the cat.

I don't care about a hundred million dollar bounty.

Nobody's turning me into the mouse, okay?

He said, you flip the script.

He said, whoever this is, they become the mouse.

You're the cat, and you don't stop until you put every single one of them in the ground.

You kill the contract by killing the people behind the contract.

That's what he said to me.

And I was like, whoa, glad you're on our side.

Yeah.

Wow.

Brad, it's Pat Gray.

You describe in the book that the CIA has been degraded to the point where it can barely operate.

Is that something that actually happened?

And if so, when?

Is it still going on now?

Has it been in that kind of shape?

No, it's not degraded.

There is a lot of bureaucracy there.

Like any government agency, there's tons and tons of bureaucracy.

So

that is the premise by which we set up a private group on the outside.

Kind of you move into a condo while your home is getting the black mold cleaned out of it.

And so that was the idea that all of these sensitive assignments that the CIA is too bogged down to carry out move over to this private group until the current director that the president of my novel put in cleansed out all the deadwood.

You know, there's the same reason Porter Goss was sent into the CIA, and he didn't succeed.

I mean, in real life, Porter Goss was sent in with a mandate from the president to clean out the deadwood, and it just didn't happen.

So there is that complaint from some of the operatives there that they want to go to recruit this person or do this assignment, and their request gets sent back four or five times because the commas are in the wrong places, which is insane.

You know, there is a complaint that there are some middle managers more concerned with getting promoted, thereby doing the safe thing.

You know, it's like a prosecutor who lets cases go because they're afraid they're going to lose the case, so they don't prosecute because they want a perfect record so they can get the next promotion.

And that's not the way that should be run.

It's not everybody at the agency, but

the

a year ago, I was at a point to where I was like, I really don't like the talk of the deep state.

I think this is, you know, not good, not healthy for us, et cetera, et cetera.

Then they impeached the president, and I went and tried to figure out what was going on in Ukraine.

And we talked to people in Ukraine.

We talked to people who were testifying in court in Ukraine.

We got the documents, et cetera, et cetera.

cetera.

There is a deep state, and it does include members of the State Department, which I think just is a hornet's nest that just needs to be fumigated.

I would fire everybody in the State Department.

But there is the State Department, there are members of justice and members of the intelligence community that are going their own way and believe they're right and just want to set up kind of a system that is a shadow and it doesn't matter what any president says.

Have you found this

in your

research and do you find that people inside the intelligence community

want that to stop?

Well, you know, the kinds of people that I am spending my time with are at the pointy end of the spear.

So we're talking about tier one people in the special operations community,

people that the CIA is sending overseas to do some of this nation's most dangerous business.

I'm surrounded by incredibly honorable people that believe that they are doing what they're doing for the good of the country.

So

I don't have interactions.

people who are mid-level bureaucrats and things like that who may want to gum up the work no but i think it's

i i think it's the agent that you're talking about and the kind of guys that I know that are true heroes and are there and they just want to do right by America.

And they do abide by whatever the president says, even if they don't like it, if that is the United States policy, they will go along with it and execute it, unless it's illegal or something like that.

And

I'm not talking about those,

the other people, mid-management.

I am talking about the point of the spear people

because they have to know that things are happening around them and it gives them a bad name and it would make it very difficult for me at least if I were in their position to do their job and to feel good about it if they didn't feel that

there were those in the agency that really had a different agenda.

Yeah, well, I have not I I buy a lot of pitchers of beer and a lot of state dinners, or at least I did before COVID.

And,

you know, I've got a very, very good friend of mine whose job it is to go put bags on heads of bad guys and bring them to justice.

And he's one of the most plugged in guys.

And, you know, the complaints from the frontline guys that I hear are always the same.

Too much bureaucracy, not getting everything they need.

It's a pain in the ass to get this, this, and this.

Some of these guys even have to pay sources out of their own pockets and wait like half a year to get reimbursed, and that picks them off, too.

It's more the bureaucracy and red tape stuff I hear about.

I would tell you, honestly, if I heard of any of this deep state kind of stuff, I haven't.

But it may just be the people I'm mixing with are predominantly outside the United States and come home, spend time with their kids, go to baseball games, their families, and then they're off again.

So they're not really around the office that much.

If you have any comment, let me take you to the current news.

Do you have any comment on what's happening with us in China?

It looks like

we're moving towards a war footing, and they are as well.

They have infiltrated our universities.

They've infiltrated and stole us blind.

There are operatives, but we just shut down the consulate, and they were out in the courtyard burning papers and documents,

which is, I mean, almost like

the end of a World War II movie.

And now they've just shut down one of our consulates.

Yeah.

So what is happening?

What do you think?

So

listen, the Chinese are not our friends, nor are the Russians our friends.

So

what's happening in Houston is no surprise.

You're going to shut down a consulate.

They're going to burn a lot of stuff.

We burn a lot of stuff.

We do when our stuff gets shut down.

We burn a ton of things.

You just have to.

I'd also like to see them shut down the consulate in San Francisco, where they're hiding that military scientist that infiltrated research centers here in the United States, claimed she wasn't in the Chinese military and all this kind of stuff.

Let's be clear, the Chinese Communist Party, the only thing they do better than oppressing their own people is stealing.

They are not innovators.

When you don't let liberty and freedom flourish, you get no innovation.

It's impossible.

So all they can do is steal from us and steal from our allies.

And what's most troubling is what they're doing with the Uyghurs.

The espionage is very troubling also

what they've done with the Uyghurs, where 80% of the IUDs that have been placed in 2018 were done in the region where the Uyghurs are.

It's forced sterilization.

The Chinese are bad people, but guess what?

We're addicted to cheap Chinese crap in this country.

You're upset that jobs have gone overseas?

Well, that's because you want to go to Walmart and get something for $5 instead of paying $15 for it.

There's a reason.

We're responsible for a lot of the problems we have with China.

And I can't believe how many of our drugs in the PPE that comes from China.

By the way, those two guys that were hacking us, all that hacking was going on, by the way, while China was bullying the WHO and getting them to clam up and not talk about COVID-19 so China could go around the world and hoard PPE.

They're a bad, bad country.

Trump is the first one who's willing to say this, but it is also very frightening because you don't want a war with China.

And

the world is so destabilized right now

that

I don't know.

When economies start to go down the crapper, people have less and less to lose as nations.

How do you see this playing out?

Well, we've got a big problem.

We're running out of runway as far as sanctions are concerned.

So Robert O'Brien, the National Security Advisor, two weekends ago, did an op-ed in the Washington Post talking about all of the companies, the tech companies that were providing all of the surveillance that the Chinese were using, particularly against the Uyghurs, using in Hong Kong, things like that.

We have a problem because our allies, people we trade with, are also intimately tied, entangled with China.

So it's hard to get partners to back off

of their dependence on cheap labor and cheap goods from China and get them to exert pressure as well.

The one big thing that the president has done that I think is really, really good and really important is an investment in our military.

Our navy needs to be built up to the 600 ship level.

And that's going to provide us a lot of might and influence in particularly the South China Sea.

But the thing we need, Glenn, we need a long-term plan.

We cannot allow China to be the economic powerhouse of the future.

We need to think beyond one election cycle.

And unfortunately, we don't do that in this country.

The Chinese think 100, 500 years out.

And we need to have a plan.

We need a moonshot here to be the economic powerhouse for the next half century, century, two centuries going forward.

And if we don't, we're going to get eclipsed by the Chinese.

That's a big problem.

And the more we have tension with them, the closer we do come to war, with them building up on those atolls,

how they're building up these islands and taking space in the South China Sea that doesn't belong to them.

It's dangerous.

It's about as dangerous as I think I've ever seen it in my lifetime.

Yeah, we are headed towards really treacherous waters.

I've got less than a minute.

Do you see us prevailing in a war with China?

Who wins that one?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's hard.

I've been trying to dig a little bit deeper into some of the war gaming that's gone on.

The problem that happens is when we go to war with China, Russia starts moving on NATO allies, particularly in the Baltics.

And now we've got a problem.

Can we honor our Article 5 commitment under the NATO treaty while fighting China?

We can't.

And then we have to choose between NATO allies and fighting the Chinese.

It doesn't end well.

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We have a guest on next.

He's the guy who started a secession cry.

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And

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Oregon has gone insane.

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We want out.

Meanwhile, Idaho is trying to recall their governor.

He's a Republican, but they're trying to recall him because they think he's nuts and has become too big city for Idaho.

And they kind of want either him out or they want to secede from Boise.

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Welcome to your program.

What?

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Thank you, Pat.

You're welcome.

Michael McCarter is the president of the Move Oregon's border for a greater Idaho.

He is asking, and so are a lot of people in Oregon that live in the sane parts of Oregon.

Enough is enough.

We cannot live under these people who are absolutely crazy, who are running our state, and they want to be a part of Idaho.

Being in Idaho right now myself, I say, welcome, welcome to Idaho.

Is this real?

Can this happen?

We talked to Michael about it in 60 seconds.

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So there is a movement

now.

You know, when Trump first got into office, there were all these liberals who were like, I buy the 10th Amendment.

I love the 10th Amendment.

Oh, I thought it was racist.

No, it's a way for us to be able to control our state.

Hmm.

Yeah, it kind of makes sense.

And then we started seeing the insanity of many of these states, and COVID has only made it worse.

Well, Michael McCarter started something, move Oregon's border for a greater Idaho, because eastern Oregon residents

are sick to death of

Portland and all of the things that are going on with our state, and they would like to join Idaho.

Is that even possible?

It hasn't happened since Virginia seceded and many of the people in Virginia went to a place we now know as West Virginia.

That happened during the Civil War

because of slavery.

We now have Michael on with us.

Hello, Michael.

How are you?

Good morning from crazy Oregon.

It is.

I mean, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, Michael, so I know about Cascadia and everything else.

It's been crazy for a long time.

But this is dangerous crazy now in Oregon.

Well, you know, Glenn, this is not something that's just started recently.

Oregon's been going downhill for years.

And

in watching everything that's taking place, we started last fall organizing Move Oregon's border for Greater Idaho.

And then the pandemic hit.

And then,

you know, the riots hit.

and stuff.

And it just

supports our decision.

We don't have any faith in Oregon's leadership at all, period.

There are great parts of California and Oregon that feel the same way.

I mean, upstate New York is like this.

But is there, first of all, have you talked to Idaho?

Is Idaho interest?

Are they taking your phone calls?

Yes, they are.

We've had some really good response from some of the representatives.

But, you you know, I think there's a lot of people that are sitting on the sidelines just watching this, waiting to see what the vote's like and whether or not

it's going to gain traction.

We're approaching.

So

who are the people that are, and how much land are you talking about?

These are generally farmers, and I looked at the map, and there's a lot of national forest in there.

So how many people, how much land, and who are those people?

Well, basically, you're talking to, you know, in a lot of cases, second, third, fourth, fifth generation Oregonians that have an attachment to the land.

They're not transitional people that move up and down the west coast, buy a house, live there three years, sell it, and move on.

These are people that have their roots in this state.

you know

they are they are they are right now they're ranchers they're like you say farmers that are out there, and they they basically align themselves closer with Idaho's conservative values than with what's going on in northwest Oregon.

But you know, northwest Oregon's got about 75% of the population base and the vote,

and with that vote, they control what they want to do no matter what we say or ask or try to input on.

They don't care.

So, Michael,

I'm in Idaho right now.

And by the way,

I am not a permanent resident

in Idaho, so I don't have voting rights.

But I would vote to get you in because you have

oceanfront property, which I think is very nice.

But

right now, in Idaho, they're trying to get rid of their governor and recall him because even though he's a Republican, they think that he has gone way too far.

Idaho, except for the Boise area, which is about 800,000 people,

they're ranchers and they're farmers and they're people who have lived here forever and they're common sense.

And they even think that Boise controls everything and nobody's listening to the people in the rest of the state the exact same way that upstate New Yorkers feel.

New York City is different.

Yes.

Well, you know, the vote in Oregon, over 75% of the vote is in the Portland Metro Willamette Valley.

And so they control the whole works.

And

there's some resistance in Idaho about us, you know,

they don't want more people moving there and the liberal values moving there.

And we agree, but Eastern, Central and Southern Oregon is over 65% conservative.

So we want to boost that conservative value that you see in Idaho right now.

We don't want to change it at all.

We don't want to move our property to Idaho.

It's simply a lot line adjustment between two states.

Right.

We align ourselves to the state.

Go ahead.

It can be done.

It hasn't been done since the 1800s, but it can be done.

However, when you have the vote

on this, you're trying to raise enough signatures, as I understand it, maybe I'm wrong, to get it onto the ballot.

And if you get it onto the ballot, do the people in Portland and

Eugene, do they have to agree too?

I mean, because they have more people than you do, so you're destined to lose if they are voting for it.

Well, we're taking this county by county in central, eastern, and southern Oregon.

We want to hear what the county citizens think about this.

And we're trying to get that question, a question on the ballot for the November election.

Do we want our

county commissioners to start working towards the possibility of moving their county to a county of Idaho?

Now, if all 17 counties come out in favor of that, or one by one, as we get them approved by the number of signatures, then it goes to the state legislature, and then the battle really begins.

But it is possible for it to take place.

I mean, who would have thought years ago, 2015, that Donald J.

Trump would become the president of the United States?

Who would have thought, except for maybe people in Oregon, that

socialists and Marxists would be running

a city and a state in the United States and openly doing it.

Oh, well,

let's go back 20-some years to Governor Morris.

He says, come visit, but don't stay.

He had that vision that we don't want those liberal policies up here in Oregon.

We are a free independent state.

Well, right now, it's kind of like the

West Coast.

California, Oregon, and Washington on the west are all tied together.

And

it doesn't sit well with us by far.

So

we want to see what that vote is like.

And this election coming up is a major election in November.

It only happens once in every four years.

That's why we're pushing to get on that ballot, county by county.

Then it goes to the next.

How close are you to that?

Well,

we've got one county positive, one county at 98% of their signatures, and several more lined up right behind that with enough signatures.

But under COVID-19, lockdown Kate Brown, it is extremely hard to go out and get signatures.

I mean,

people are just

walk up with a mask on and grab some pen and try to sign on a clipboard.

It's hands-off.

I do know.

I can't remember which state it was, but they were trying to put something on the ballot, and they went to court

and made the case that

they can't get that number of signatures because of COVID-19.

And the court did reduce the amount of signatures that were required.

And it just happened the last few days, and I don't remember what state it was.

But you might want to look into that because it is hard to get that many signatures.

We filed in federal court

already for that same reason.

And we're not saying that people are wrong.

We filed against the governor, the Secretary of State, and all of the county clerks in these counties.

And it's saying, okay, I mean, common sense that the lockdown of COVID-19 is restricting the ability to get the number of signatures.

Of course it is.

Right.

So we're asking for some relief on that just like these other cases have

so it's in the courts right now here

and you've got a good judge do you know the judge yet yes we do we we filed June 30th we've got an August 5th deadline to get all these signatures in county by county and so we've we filed for relief to reduce the number of signatures required and to extend that date to to allow us to get more signatures in.

It was denied the first time,

and so we re-filed two days ago.

A motion?

I do see the map of Oregon, and

it reduces it almost to the size of,

what, maybe a couple of Rhode Islands, maybe one Rhode Island.

Pat, have you seen this map?

Yeah, Idaho's huge under this plan.

Oregon's just a teeny little sliver.

So

Idaho becomes much bigger than Washington state.

Much.

Right now, a lot of the counties in eastern Oregon

are revenue-negative counties for the state.

If the state of Oregon removes those counties from their budgets, all of a sudden they've got a lot of money they can put into their liberal social program.

Nice.

I like that.

Now, you should probably keep that to yourself when you're trying to convince Idaho.

How are you going to convince Idaho when you've used that with Oregon?

Yeah, but I think Idaho looks at those counties in a different way.

They're timber friendly.

All of a sudden, like you say, they have a deepwater port in Coos Bay.

Where Where are all the products from Idaho going to ship through to go out to the Pacific Rim?

They're going to come across the city.

No,

it's going to be a boom economically.

Yeah, it would be.

It would be.

All right.

Well, best of luck.

And will you stay in touch with us and tell us how it's going and if there's anything we can do to help?

Because I just think it's wrong.

California is in the same situation to where

all those farms and farmland in California are not being listened to.

They don't have any real representation and they're sick of it.

And quite honestly, I think they should be allowed to

carve out

their own representation.

We're being controlled now by the big cities.

Absolutely, absolutely.

If I can say anything more, Glenn, I would encourage any of the Oregon citizens that are listening to this, that are in our counties, to sign the petition, to vote.

I mean, we have bought into this that one person can't make a difference.

That is crap.

We need everybody to vote on it.

And then go to

our website, greateridaho.org, and give us a donation because we're grassroots, we're totally underfunded.

And nobody is paid in this whole program.

It's all from the bottom up.

And this is a real bottom-up thing.

This is obviously George Soros is not helping them on this.

It's greater Idaho.org.

GreaterIdaho.org.

And I will tell you,

if you're in Oregon now,

Idaho is really sweet.

And quite honestly, we need a few more farmers in here and a few more ranchers and a few more people that think like the vast majority of Idaho

because they're going to come up here and they'll wreck this state just as much as they wrecked Oregon for you.

We need to stick together.

I'm excited by the possibility.

It's going to be a dogfight, but I'm up for it.

Anything we can do to help you, you just let us know.

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You know, I said 10 years ago that

we have to be a part of it.

Where are the big ideas from the right?

Because the left is going for big ideas.

I mean, I don't know if you've seen their t-shirts,

revolution or bust.

They are going for a complete fundamental transformation of the United States of America.

So why aren't we going for big ideas?

Why aren't we presenting,

yeah, you know what?

We're going to have a flat tax.

Why aren't we talking about big ideas?

Because big ideas excite people.

Where are the big ideas?

And I, quite honestly, that's why I like the idea that states can secede, because I am sick and tired of just a few, quite frankly, Californians moving into a state, i.e., Texas, and changing fundamentally our cities.

And because they can change a city, they change everything else in the state.

Well, is there no place for people with common sense?

Is there no place where people can be left alone by these authoritarian-like

dictator wannabes?

Because that's really where they're headed.

They will tell you how to live.

And I'm sick of it.

And I'd sure like to hear some big ideas.

This is a big idea.

It's a big one.

And I think it would have to be approved by Idaho, Oregon, and then doesn't have to be approved by Congress, the U.S.

Congress, too?

I think it would.

I'm not sure if it would.

I think they have to rubber stamp it.

But I think the decision is really made by the states.

As long as the states, as long as they can join Idaho, I think it's okay.

They can't make a state separate from Oregon that stands on its own.

But hey, the big idea from the left is make D.C.

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It's Friday from the Standing Rock Ranch back in Dallas at the studios on Monday.

We want to thank Pat for filling in.

Stu will be returning from his his vacation on Monday as well.

I've had a great week with you, Pat.

Thank you so much for filling in with Stu.

Absolutely.

I want to turn to a couple of things political.

Trump now is neck and neck with the latest survey from Biden, 45-47.

His approval rating now is equal to Obama's in 2012.

So it looks like, at least to this, it's a Rasmussen poll, so it's always more friendly, Rasmussen.

But it looks like he he is closing the gap.

He has boosted his approval rating from

49 to 49%,

50%

disapproving, which I think is pretty remarkable for a split as this country is.

Barack Obama also had a 49% approval rating at this point.

Biden is

I think Biden is the weakest candidate I have seen, perhaps in my lifetime,

Because if he goes out, I mean, even Charlemagne the God,

which I just hate saying.

But anyway,

he's probably the most influential black broadcaster in America.

He's on premier radio networks, the same network that carries mine.

Racists.

They run the Breakfast Club.

And Joe Biden came out and said that Donald Trump is the first racist president to be elected, which I heard, and I actually celebrated because I was like, oh, good, the founders are off the hook.

But then I started thinking, well, I don't know, Woodrow Wilson,

Andrew Jackson, FDR,

FDR, and everybody leaves FDR up.

FDR in the last century rounded up people,

even if they were Americans, because of their race.

So I just like to point out, you know, LBJ,

Wilson,

Jackson is another great one.

And they all seem to be Democrats.

But anyway, Charlemagne said, I really wish Joe Biden would shut the F up forever and continue to act like he's starring in the movie A Quiet Place, because as soon as he opens his mouth and makes any noise, he gets us all killed, okay?

There's already so many people who are reluctantly only voting for Joe Biden because he's the only option and because Donald Tray J.

Trump is trash.

Wow.

I think he's right.

I think he's right.

You can't have Joe Biden out because he's not in control of himself anymore.

But then again, neither are the Democrats.

I want to give you the 15 references in their platform now to whites.

And you tell me

how much they care about white people.

Listen to this.

This is in their new platform.

We will never amplify or legitimize the voices of bigotry, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or white supremacy.

First of all,

no, I think BLM is racist.

I'm sorry, but anybody who says all white people are bad or all black people are bad, I'm sorry,

that is the definition of racism.

But you won't amplify the voices of anti-Semitism?

Really?

Have you met yourself lately?

Median incomes.

Now, listen, here's plank number two.

Median incomes are lower and poverty rates are higher for black Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, and some Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders compared to median white households.

There is a persistent and pernicious racial wealth gap that holds millions of Americans back.

The typical white household holds six times more wealth than the typical Latino family, ten times more wealth than the typical black family.

You know, you're wealthier, so

how do you fix that?

How do you fix that?

You got to take it away.

Got to take it away.

The wealth gap between black workers and white workers is higher today than it was 20 years ago.

It takes a typical black woman 19 months to earn what a typical white man earns in 12 months.

Well, why don't we do apples to apples instead of apples and oranges?

How about a black woman and a white woman?

And for typical Latinas,

I think they mean Latinx,

and even Native American women, it takes almost two years.

Even before COVID-19, the uninsured rate was nearly three times higher for Latinos and twice as high for black Americans as it was for whites.

Black children are more likely than white children to suffer from asthma.

Latinos, Native Americans,

Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, and black Americans are diagnosed with diabetes at higher rates than whites.

Black women are more than three times as likely to die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth compared to white women.

Black children are killed more often with abortions.

Oh, no, that's not in there.

President Trump's words and actions have given safe harbor and encouragement to bigots,

anti-Semites, Islamophobes, and white supremacists.

The extreme gap in household wealth and income between people of color, especially black Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, and white families, is hurting our working class and holding our country back.

We will confront white nationalist terrorism and combat hate crimes perpetrated against religious minorities.

Hmm.

How about religious majorities?

Each year, the United States spends $23 billion in schools, predominantly white districts, more than in non-white districts.

We'll root out systematic racism from our military justice system, where black service members are twice as likely as white ones to face court-martial.

Our counter-terrorism priorities, footprints, and tools should shift, including to respond to the growing threat from white supremacists and other right-wing terrorist groups.

That's their platform.

Let me just ask you, if you happen to be white,

do you feel like you're part of that at all?

I mean, it sounds to me like they're going to come and confiscate your wealth.

They're going to

make you

miserable.

You know, it's the typical socialist thing.

Not everybody is happy.

Everybody's just equally miserable.

And second of all, when they're talking about median white households making so much more money than minorities, that's not even true.

No.

Do you know that our median

is people from India?

So Indians.

So I'm not saying Native Americans here.

The number one group in median household income, Indians, $131,746 per household.

That's impressive.

Whites are number two with $85,000.

Then Latinos, $67,000 per household.

Middle Easterners, $56,000.

Looks like blacks make around $45,000 medium.

Now, so it is more for whites, but it's not 6 or 10 times more as they were alleging.

And also, why did they leave out Indians?

Why do they make it sound like whites are the target when the highest median income

at about what 75% more

are Indian?

Yeah, well, they also didn't explain.

And what does that tell you?

It's just

we are not a racist country, that it's not holding whites back so whites can be number one.

Indians and Asians perform better than whites.

This is a meritocracy.

That's what this is about.

Oh my gosh.

They're just, they have gone off the deep end, and now they are spinning this conspiracy theory.

And I want to play something from yesterday.

Sarah, do you happen to have from yesterday the

NPR

quote where they were talking about

how people are being scooped off the streets by these federal officers?

There's something really important that I need to point out about this.

Listen to this.

Now, this is from NPR.

This is their reporter asking another reporter a question, but I want you to listen to how the question is framed.

Listen.

So let me get this straight, Cheryl.

We saw what happened in Portland, right?

Like these federal agents on the ground, they would arrest people without cause sometimes and put them in unmarked vehicles.

I mean, is that what this is going to be?

Even though the president says it's about helping local police forces, are we going to see a repeat of what we saw in Portland?

Well, Attorney General William Barr says no.

They are talking now about occupying forces.

And they're telling you lies about how they're scooped off the street.

That is not happening.

Without charges.

And they're beginning.

Without charges, and they're beginning to refer to people as occupying forces.

They're like occupying forces.

Why are they saying that?

Because they are trying to make the United States into Israel, and they are trying to convince minorities that they are being occupied by white people.

It's despicable.

This is well documented.

It is wide out in the open.

Nobody is talking about it because nobody's reporting on it.

We did on Wednesday night special this last Wednesday.

It's available for download right now at Blaze TV.

The last five to six specials have been some of the most important specials that I think I've ever done because we are now at the end game scenario with the left and you need to understand what they're doing.

Now they're also setting us up for civil war after the election.

Listen to this montage of what people like William Holder and senators and congressmen are now saying about sending in federal troops to protect federal buildings.

Listen to how they're casting this.

If he loses, and I expect that he will,

be prepared for things that this nation has never faced before.

And unfortunately, that could involve the use of

these forces.

It has been suggested that this is a trial

of the President of the United States

who may be organizing to not accept what happens when we have the election.

I think we should all take very seriously the prospect that the Mississippi, as I say, a dress rehearsal, a trial run.

If you don't draw a line in the sand,

this country may be looking down the barrel of martial law in the middle of an election.

This is, I guess, the president's own version of martial law since the real military has kind of pushed back from doing that.

Is there anybody, having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years, who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way he could stay in power?

This is so outrageous, farther than anything anyone ever said about Barack Obama, at least on this program.

Oh, by far, by far.

And it is outrageous.

Irresponsible fear-mongering, like I don't think I've ever seen before.

And they,

the accusations they threw at you in our show at the time that we were creating hysteria among the base.

What are they doing here?

They are firing.

You should, I mean, you got to take back every apology you've ever made again.

I know you did it earlier in the show, but you've got to do it again because they do not

apologize.

I tried to reach out to those people who were honest people.

I have found none.

They're just working.

They're not honest.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I was giving a Maya Coppa so we could have a conversation, but I have to tell you, after what our research has produced, and we know

what they are doing, we were A right about 90% of the things that we said.

And I'm not talking about, you know what I think might happen?

I mean the cases that we laid out when we said

they are planting the seeds of a revolution, and here's who's doing it.

It's all now verified, as if you watched this show last Wednesday night on Blaze TV, you saw we can verify it now.

We can put names and places and quotes and signatures to all of the things that we talked about.

And I have to tell you,

Katie Couric asked me, well, what do you mean by why culture?

He has a problem with the why culture.

What do you mean by that, racist?

I'll tell you what I mean, Katie frickin' Couric.

Exactly what's going on right now.

Read the plank of the Democratic Party and how extreme they have become.

Anybody who says any of all race is

bad and can never be forgiven and are responsible for all the things that are bad,

that is a racist person.

Barack Obama and all of his pals did listen to Jeremiah Wright, and this is the product of it.

And if you, Katie Corick, and all you

hacks actually think you're going to be safe, they're going to drag you out in the street and they'll kill you as fast as they would kill me or anybody else.

You are not doing yourself or this country any favors by

usurping the Constitution of the United States.

This is a hostile takeover.

This is a coup that has been planned for a very long time and enough.

If you can't admit it, I have no time for you.

None.

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