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Welcome to the podcast.

Today, Glenn has a couple of ideas about how society could go from here.

They're not necessarily all positive, which is going to surprise you, I know.

But he gives these three scenarios, lays them out.

They're pretty interesting, and you know, there's a lot here, so you need to dive into that one.

It's pretty interesting, and hopefully, it won't ruin your weekend entirely.

Bruce Feiler joins us.

You know, there's been a lot of times here that we've had difficult situations to deal with over the past few months.

He's got a great book about changing the way we look at those negative events.

It's called Life Is in the Transitions, Mastering Change at Any Age.

It's a pretty helpful thing to see and hear about right now.

And Maximo Alvarez is a guy who's a Cuban immigrant and is warning that, look,

we've seen this before.

We do not want to go down this this road.

He's in America now.

He was just seen, he was just with the president, and he is trying to outline and warn what's coming up.

And we get into a little bit of a white fragility talk.

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You're listening to the best of the Blenbeck program.

So yesterday, by the way, welcome to my good friend Pat Gray, who is who has always been one of my trusted counselors, and as is Stubrageer.

His real name is Steve, but nobody calls him that because he didn't speak up.

You see what happens when you don't speak up?

Yeah, this happens to you.

Me, I happen.

Yeah, you turn into Stu.

All right.

So as I see this, there are three options

on

how this ends.

One,

because

I have wargamed this.

You guys know this.

I have wargamed this for almost 20 years now.

And, you know, I've said, we're going to miss the exits.

exits, we're going to miss the exits, and then there you are, bridges out.

And it kind of feels that way.

But there is one more exit.

There is one more exit.

And here it is.

That we find

a group of Americans that are so Martin Luther King-ish

that they just, they're willing to stand peacefully

through anything.

I mean, take a crowbar to the head and they're willing to, we can get them all together, and we can find a couple of leaders like Martin Luther King or a Gandhi, and we can all rally around these people and

put together a

well-coordinated and well-financed movement.

You know, because Martin Luther King was also very well financed,

and then we can,

you know, we can stand against Black Lives Matter, which is this just ragtag band of

people

that currently have $1.6 billion at their disposal.

So we can do that,

and we can march right into the gates of hell, and everybody, the press, will be there, and they will be witness to good versus evil.

And it will be on the screen side by side.

And people will go, I like those people more than those people.

And

that's the way to change things and that we we all of a sudden stop being the people that americans have seemed to turn into

uh and we actually start taking our god and our covenant seriously and we kind of go back to not being the whore of the earth i i just gotta speak up here and say that one sounds hard

It sounds like a lot of work.

Yeah.

Now it sounds hard.

I don't think that one's going to happen.

It would be good, though, wouldn't it?

That would be great.

Like, if we were the people of the 1960s, you know, where we still had churches and, you know, people were speaking up at the pulpit and, you know, we had the Constitution in, you know, in common and a love for our country in common.

That one could have happened.

That one would be nice.

And I still think we try that one.

I just don't think it's going to happen.

But I still think we try that one.

Now, the other one is

we just kind of keep doing what we're doing,

and then the Marxist and the deep state take over,

and

we lose the country, you know, probably in the next four years,

and America as we know it is

over,

and then the singularity comes, and we're already slaves, but some people

get little chips, and so they become super, super powerful and super, super smart.

And there's no way to compete with them, so our children and our grandchildren are forever slaves to a really dark system.

Okay.

Now, I think that's a possibility, too, right?

That's a bad one.

You know, we become worse than the Nazis because of our technology,

and we just

end all freedom on the and and America just becomes this dark, dark place, and all man's freedom is lost, and possibly forever.

That's it, though.

There's nothing worse than that that could happen.

No, I think that's I mean, you give me some time, but I think that's I think that's the dark end of the scenarios.

Okay, don't you think?

So, yeah, so I have the title of the first one as Big Group of MLKs Randomly Emerge.

And then the second one, Slaves to the Nazis.

Well, we have to find them.

Right.

Well, yeah, sure.

And then slaves to a Nazi system but darker as the second possibility.

Right.

Okay.

All right.

Right.

Now, let me ask you.

Let me ask you, which one do you think has a better chance out of those scenarios

of happening?

Well, I thought there was a third scenario.

So let's.

Well, there is, but I'm just saying, out of those two scenarios,

which ones do you think?

Number two.

Number two, right?

No doubt in my mind.

Right.

Right.

It's just no doubt in my mind.

I mean, it would be really nice, but this thing is so well coordinated and so freaking evil

and so well financed that there's no way out, you know?

I hate to be a pessimist, and I'm not.

I actually believe in the first one.

No, I actually want to do the first one.

But I think we all, somewhere inside, we all go, yeah, that number two scenario, that could happen.

You know, if I would have said this to you, if I would have said this to you six years ago,

I wouldn't have said it because it wouldn't have seemed possible, right?

Six years ago, I say, and we turn into a dark Nazi state.

I think we all go, that's not going to happen.

Today,

I think everybody within the sound of my voice, even if they say that's not going to happen, they're like, but

there's maybe a possibility.

Well, yeah, because a lot of it has already happened.

So

you could transform the rest of it by this afternoon.

Right.

It's only going to get faster from here, right?

Yes.

I think we're all clear.

Okay.

All right.

Now, I thought of this third scenario yesterday

and I thought,

wait a minute.

Hold it just a second.

This one, I think, has a better chance of working and happening.

So let me

put a third scenario.

Here, this is going to be fun.

Yeah, no, this is no, this is a good one.

This is a good one.

And I think there's a real chance this one happens.

At least this is the one that we should hope for.

We should be working towards, I think.

So here's the scenario.

We all start working on the Martin Luther King thing, but someplace inside of us, we all know that ain't going to happen.

But we actually try to do it.

And in the course of doing that, a small number of us really change.

You know, a small number.

It's not going to be a lot of people because, you know,

Christians and all of that nonsense is going to be just

more and more laughed at

as the time goes on.

So it's not going to be

Christians and all of that nonsense.

Do you feel clear to clarify that one a little bit?

Yeah, it's all going to be, yeah, no, it's all going to be, you know, deemed hooey soon by scientists and those in the know.

And so there, so it's not going to be popular, and it's not necessarily going to be fun, but we'll change and it'll be really good.

It'll be really good.

And then

the, you know, the country is overthrown by the, you know, dark forces of Marxism and death and evil.

And we lose the country as we know it by, let's say, 2024.

Okay.

And

then

there's like seven years of tribulation.

But then Jesus comes.

Okay.

Okay.

So, okay.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

So then Jesus comes and everything is great again.

And when you look at it that way,

you're like, wait a minute.

Seven years and then just the next four and then it was really crappy seven years.

I can do that.

That's not so bad.

You know what I mean?

It's going to be really crappy.

And the dark Nazi stuff is going to happen to the United States.

But then Jesus comes.

Now, here's the beauty of this.

Because just a few of us are willing to look at this and go, huh,

that's a possibility.

Or even those who are like, I don't think that's going to happen, but

I'd rather hope for that than just the gulag with the Borg, you know, in an SS uniform.

Because here's the thing.

If we actually start to look at it that way, then even if Jesus doesn't come,

we're the happy ones in the concentration camp or the gulag.

I think that's a win.

So, your optimistic scenario is essentially we have the nice room at the concentration camp.

Oh, no, we have the worst room in the concentration camp, but we're happy.

We're happy.

I shouldn't have overstated the positivity.

Because if we just endure it for seven years, we know that the second coming of Jesus will be here, and then everything's fine.

Yeah, but let's say you're one of those who are like, but

now wait a minute.

Let's just say that you're one of those who are like, oh, I'm not, I don't think I want to put all my eggs in the Jesus is coming back basket, okay, because they've been doing that for a long time.

That's good in this scenario, because

if the second scenario is what really is going to happen,

again, we've changed and we're happy in the gulag.

Okay.

All right.

So to summarize here, if I could, we have scenario one, which is a big group of MLKs are discovered in an archaeological dig of some sort.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Freezers.

Maybe Walt Disney.

Maybe we defrost him.

Okay.

Maybe he's the guy.

I don't know.

Number two, we're slaves to a Nazi system, but darker, possibly run by animated skeletons.

I added that last part because it just seemed like it worked.

Well, animated would not be accurate, but audio animatronic, maybe, yes.

Well, I'm thinking they're meaning not animated as in drawn, but just alive and moving around.

This is not, they're not like.

Well, that's a little supernatural for me.

I'd rather stick to science.

Again, we're figuring this out together.

And then three is robot skeletons.

Yeah, okay, robot skeletons.

And three is Jesus shows up in like 15 years, but the Nazi stuff still happens anyway.

So your optimistic scenario is just the Nazi stuff happens anyway.

I mean, the first one's, I guess, the most optimistic, but you've pretty much ruled it out.

Jesus comes.

But Jesus comes.

So, we just have to be

show some endurance, essentially.

Show some, buck up, man.

Pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

Just be good to each other.

Live, you know, hey, treat others like you want to be treated.

You know, that kind of stuff.

We could do that for seven years.

We could fake our way through that.

And then Jesus comes.

But if he doesn't come, because we faked it, we actually start to live that way.

And when he doesn't show up, sure, some of us are disappointed.

Others are like, no, but let's sing a song, you know, on the way to the gallows.

And we're like, yeah, that would be really cool.

And we're happy about it.

You know, I saw the same segment on Fox and Friends this morning where

they went through the three.

Is somebody onto this theory already?

Already.

Oh, man.

So you're a little late.

Brian Kilmead was all over this one this morning.

So was CNN, really?

Yeah, same details.

Did they do the skeletons, though?

They do it.

Let me tell you something.

All of it.

Let me tell you something.

I think they're all going to be, we're just early on this.

I think they're all going to be talking about this soon.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Your book is Life is in the Transitions.

And this is something I've talked about for a long time.

We all have pivot points, and it's when we choose to reach up and pick ourselves back up at usually the worst point in our life, the world changes and for the better.

Well, I have to say, Glenn, you were in my mind a lot as I was working on this project because

not only have you had a lot of pivot points and transitions in your life, but you've also been incredibly open as a public figure in talking about them and sort of helping to model the idea that the old kind of fantasy linear life that we were told where you'd have, you know, low-level job, mid-level job, high-level job, right?

You would date, then you'd get married.

You go to the, like that that's gone.

And so, you know, you mentioned when we met, and you were exactly right, it was more than probably a dozen years ago

at this point.

I was working on America's Prophet at that time.

And

I was having having a kind of linear uphill life and then I just got walloped by life right I had the cancer I almost went bankrupt and as you know my book life is in the transitions that we're talking about now began begins with my dad who has Parkinson's never depressed a minute in his life in in Savannah Georgia tries to take his own life actually multiple times in the course of a month And so I start this kind of storytelling project with my dad where I send him a question every Monday morning about his life.

Like, tell me about the house you grew up with, the toys,

how did you become an Eagle Scout?

How did you join the Navy?

How did you meet mom?

And this man who'd never written anything longer than a memo backs into writing an autobiography.

And I got incredibly interested, like,

how we have to rewrite and rethink our life story.

And when I started talking about this, everybody had a story.

And I thought, you know what?

There's not really a book out there that captures how we get through these life quakes, I call them.

These massive changes that sort of descend upon us.

So I did what I do.

I went on this journey, crisscrossed the country, I got hundreds of life stories of Americans, all 50 states, like every state in this country, people who lost homes, lost limbs, changed careers.

I have military veterans who lost limbs in the Middle East.

I have, you know, alcoholics who got sober, people who got out of bad marriage, incredible stories of recovery and redemption.

And I then spent a year with a team of 12 people, like looking through, trying to find a toolkit to help all of us as we have to manage manage these life quakes.

And then, oh my gosh, lo and behold, this book comes out at a moment when the entire planet is going through a life quake at the same time, which is why this book out this week has just sort of exploded out of the gates.

It's interesting, Bruce, because I've been saying, in fact, I just said it last hour.

We can look at what's happening to us right now and take it in a negative way and be angry and let it destroy us say that it has destroyed us.

Or we can say, it's going to put my feet on a different path and I don't know what it is yet, but it's going to be good and search for the meaning

out of suffering and everything else.

And when we honestly do that with an optimistic spirit

and a trusting spirit,

it changes everything.

Everything.

Well, I love your idea that we're going into the weekend and we need a bit of positivity.

And so here's

what I discovered: the life quake itself, like the massive change that comes over us, it can be positive.

Having children is often a life quake.

Starting a new venture is a life quake.

I have the story in my book about

a truck driver who became a male nurse.

Like, people can make these changes and they are positive, constructive, or they can be negative, right?

You can have a diagnosis, you can lose your job, you can lose a loved one.

But the transition that comes out of the life quake, that must be voluntary.

voluntary like you have to lean in to decide to go through you know the roadmap I'm gonna lay out for you and take the steps to turn that situation that negativity into positivity that's a choice and in some ways that's where we can start right now you know you have to choose to go through the transition what is it that you're struggling everybody lay awake last night or woke up this morning and was wondering, do I have a job?

If I have a job, is it the right job?

Do I need to quit my job to take care of my children or my grandchildren?

Am I doing something meaningful?

Do I have a medical problem?

We all have these.

Everybody listening to us, the question is: do you want to make the choice to go into the transition and get yourself to a better place?

So, this is also, it's, I mean, it's deeply personal, but it is the answer to almost all of the strife that we're feeling right now.

Not just in COVID, not just in the struggle, but also in the apparent non-forgiveness of sins of the past.

If you choose to take the things that have happened in your life

and choose to look at Nelson Mandela and choose and say, okay, those things happen.

Now what do I do?

Because I can't change everybody else.

What do I do?

It is so freeing and so empowering.

And it's the message that I think much of America is missing right now.

Well, this is why I think, you know, and I wrote it in the Wall Street Journal this week and in the New York Times today, and it's the reason this book is sitting in the top 20 of Amazon right now, is because learning to master life transitions turns out to be the most urgent life skill people have right now.

people need right now.

And we haven't really talked about transitions.

It's not really been in favor.

The last kind of big book on this was 50 years ago.

And I sort of been discovering that we have many, life comes at us much faster now.

I mean, the good news is we have freedom, we can live where we want to live, and believe what we want to believe, right?

And be in the relationship we want to be in, and have the job we want to have.

But that's a greater burden on us to kind of make that choice.

And so, what happens is when you go into the life transition, right, you feel one of two things.

Either like chaotic and out of control, like I got to do this, I got to do that, or you feel stuck.

But I know what you definitely feel, which is I'm the only one going through this.

But when you sit, as I did, two, three, four times across from people, you know, I have an Army sergeant who had his face blown off in the Taliban on the brink of suicide, who's turned to

poetry and painting and built himself anew.

I have a CIA agent who lost his marriage.

I have a two-time cancer survivor who climbed Mount Everest.

I have incredible stories of people with addiction who overcame one.

One I'm going to tell you in a minute.

But when you get into this, it turns out there's kind of a structure.

Like they involve different phases.

There's saying goodbye, what I call the long goodbye.

You say goodbye to the old you.

Then there's this messy middle, think of the scriptural stories where you have to kind of go into the wilderness, where you shed certain habits and create new ones.

And then you finally build this new you, and then you have to kind of unveil that to the world.

So there are actually steps you can take.

And as you know, the second half of Life is in the Transitions has this toolkit for things that you can do.

And my wife's chuckling when you risk your question because my wife was like,

don't tell me what you think, Bruce.

You know, bring me what other people are doing, and that's what this book is.

You're going to find people just like you who've been through this, and you're going to find things that they did that will help you almost exactly where you are right now.

One of the most amazing things in my journey is,

and the most clear

example of it was, or maybe it was just the first example of it, was I was just asking the bigger questions of life, and

I read, I began to read Plato

for my own search, not because somebody assigned it to me.

And I realized

they've been asking these questions from the beginning of time.

And you're not alone.

These problems and

crosses and solutions have been experienced since the beginning of mankind.

And when we can get out of ourselves and look to others currently and to others who have accomplished something in the past, life just becomes so much easier and so much more pleasant because you start to notice the people around you who are kind of in the same place.

And you start talking, you're like, right?

I thought it was just me, right?

And it's really healthy.

All right, we're going to continue with Bruce Filer here in just a second.

The name of the book is Life is in the Transitions.

It's available everywhere.

Transitions Mastering Change at Any Age.

Bruce Feiler is his name.

This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

Maximo Alvarez, president of the Sunshine Gasoline Distributors.

He's a Cuban immigrant,

and he has been speaking out, and I thought you needed to hear his voice.

He's a Cuban immigrant that is warning now that the American dream is under threat.

He came here to America when he was 13, and he saw the revolution in Cuba.

Maximo, welcome to the program.

Thank you, Glenn.

And it's an honor.

I've always admired your way of thinking, and I admire you for being one of the few people in the press who really tell our

country what is going on

objectively as possible

because everybody's afraid to tell the truth, I guess.

In the name of being politically correct, everybody's become legally a hypocrite.

Yeah.

Maximo,

I'm so glad to have you on

because I've

one of the things I've always had a big fan base of immigrants, especially the immigrants that come from

communist countries in the Eastern Bloc or Cuba.

And I think they have the most important voice, and it's not being highlighted.

And I got to believe that even though you were young, you remember enough of what was happening over in Cuba that it must be a little terrifying for people who came here and have seen communism and Marxism and how it overthrows countries.

It must be

a frightening deja vu.

Glenn, it really goes further than that.

I happen

to have learned from mom and dad who had to migrate from Spain to Cuba at the turn of the century, running away from communism.

So I knew firsthand

how difficult and how painful it was for families who were being destroyed for no reason.

Families who had nothing to do with politics, families who who had nothing to do with government.

It was just hard-working families.

So

I grew up in that environment, and then sure enough,

by the time I'm 11 years old,

the same thing happens in Cuba.

And I remember my dad

trying to convince my mom

while listening to Castro's words while he was up in the mountains.

He used to broadcast

the radio at night and

shortwave radio.

And I remember my dad, and I mentioned this when the President was here,

my dad used to tell my mother how he thought that that SOB

was a communist.

And my mother used to even argue with him and said, how can you say that?

You know, he was raised by the Jesuits.

He's a Roman Catholic, his entire family.

As a matter of fact, the very Catholic Church helped save his life.

The very Catholic Church pretty much helped finance his revolution.

And then

I happened to be part of the Catholic Church.

My education was all Catholic.

And then all of a sudden, my school was taking over.

And all of a sudden, the Marriage Brothers

were hiding because they were being persecuted.

So they had to go and hide in embassies or leave the country because their lives were threatened.

These are the very people that helped the Castro regime take over.

And you know what is really sad?

The media,

Fidel Castro never took over Batista's regime.

Batista left.

Batista left December 31st, 1958, at midnight after he celebrated New Year's Eve.

And he left because he lost control of the country.

And guess what?

Guess who actually was one of the biggest factors

that Batista leaves?

The media.

They were destroying Baptista.

And then a few months later, what happened to the media?

What happened to El Diario de la Marina, El Diario del Mundo?

This is the equivalent of the New York Times and the Washington Post.

What happened to Serie Gou?

That's the equivalent of CNN.

There's no free press.

And what is amazing is these people in the press do not understand that they will be the first ones out of here.

But when they find out what they did, it's too late.

Way too late.

So

I had the chance to speak in the panel when President Trump was here.

And just told me, he told you a story.

And I'm humble to tell you, it's amazing how my little story has impacted so many people

because I'm telling you, Glenn, my story is just one of many, many, many, many millions of people running away from communism, looking for the land of the free.

And it's amazing.

It's amazing that we don't appreciate that.

And I remember, and I said it in my speech, and I'll tell you, and

this is something

that will resonate with me until I die.

How my father came from Spain to Cuba

at the age of 18, never to go back,

work his ass off.

And when he's about to enjoy the fruit of his labor, he saw my brother graduate.

He had to send him because he was in that age that he was going to be indoctrinated.

And soon after that,

He had to send me out

because they had taken over the schools.

And I remember when he finally gets over here and he tells us, this is a man of a sixth grade education, this is not a philosopher, he didn't go to Harvard, he didn't go to Yale,

but a very wise man who used to tell us how lucky he was because he was able to go from Spain to Cuba and to Cuba to America.

And he said,

don't lose this place because you're not going to be as lucky.

So this is what I'm trying to warn, and I'm amazed that that little story, which is only one of many millions of stories,

has been so positive, has gone viral.

And I'm humbled to know that

I'm pretty sure it has helped quite a few people understand what the reality is.

So, Maximo, first of all, thank you for sharing that, especially about your dad.

That's got to be a painful memory.

You said that your mom looked at Castro and said, how dare you could say he's a communist?

So it it's the same is it the same thing every time where people are just duped and they believe that this time it is different

and these aren't the monsters that rule at night?

Glenn, this is the same old story.

It doesn't change.

We need to explain to people

that the communist philosophy is based on the fact that the ends justify the means.

The ends justify the means.

On our side,

we have the Judeo-Christian values.

We cannot steal, we cannot lie, we cannot kill.

We got to honor mom and dad.

We got to honor God.

We got to respect people.

And on top of that,

we have to forgive our enemy.

Now on the other side, they will do whatever is necessary to accomplish their objective.

If they have to tell you they are Catholics or they have to tell you they belong to certain religion, they will.

If they have to kill you, they will.

They have.

Just look at history, look exactly what happened in Cuba.

No one would have ever imagined that Fidel Castro was a communist.

No one.

If you look at the just go on the library, any of the books, any of the history books, where they have his pictures coming down from the mountains.

Every rebel, everyone had a rosary hanging from their necks.

And he always claimed that he was, as I said, Catholico Apostolico Romano that's Roman Catholic.

He was educated by the Jesuits.

And it was not until two years after he had taken over power that he declares that he's a Marxist

and if you look at and if you have read the book by Saul Alinsky

if you see what is happening that's exactly what is happening in every of this country

that's what happening in our backyard today that's what happened in Cuba

that's what happened in Venezuela that's what happened in Nicaragua

make sure that everybody

Go ahead.

What is everybody,

what are the Cuban refugees?

What are the Cuban families feeling and how can they help?

Is there any movement in those families to come together and to form a block and speak out?

Because I think they could be a real powerful force.

Here's the problem, Glenn.

I don't know.

I'm not an expert in the matter, okay, because I don't have the numbers or the statistics.

But if you look at the wave of Cubans who come over right after CASPAKO,

we came here

with a shirt we wore on our back.

As a matter of fact, I'm an original member of the Pier Pan group.

Those are the kids who came without parents, over 14,000 of us.

And if you look at, and I know this for a fact, as a group of 14,000, we have done very, very well.

but what happened is after that

you go through the years

Fidel Castro has more people infiltrated in our community than you can even imagine Fidel Castro has a very very big sophisticated intelligence machine those people killing young people in Venezuela are not Venezuelan students They're Cubans.

Those people killing Nicaraguans where their students were demonstrated, they were not Nicaraguans.

they were Cubans.

Because Fidel Castro exported terrorism the minute that he took over Cuba.

I remember the word terrorism wasn't used.

It used to be guerra de guerrillas, that was guerrilla warfare.

One person can create enough fear that will destroy the economy.

That means, for example, you cannot go to a theater, you cannot go to a restaurant, because all of a sudden, a bomb will explode.

And it gets so far out of hand that people are afraid to go out.

The government says you're not protected after six o'clock in the evening, so better stay home.

And what happens to our economy?

Capitalism and fear

are not synonyms.

You cannot be a capitalistic economy with fear.

With fear.

And this is what is, that's why it's called terrorism.

Look what is happening today.

And our own governors, governors, mayors,

this is amazing.

I see the guy in New York painting the street.

And all we do is use people

to create dissension, to create hatred.

And that's what they do.

They're at the end of the day.

And that mayor.

Right.

And

that mayor happens to be a guy who loves Castro's Cuba.

I've got to run, but I want to ask you one more qu question.

Do you worry about a boycott from the left like they did to the Goya Foods CEO for his support of Trump?

Glenn,

let me tell you,

I've been here now since 1961.

I have done a lot better than I expected to do.

If I die or I lose everything for this country, I will be here prosecutor.

So no, I have no fear.

And I'm telling you, what they have done to Goya is the best thing because I'm telling you, Goya is now going to double their business because they have provided them with great free publicity.

Because Goya Foods is a very great product.

The owners of that company have been very, very generous for many many years.

And people who know

will

help him and endorse him much more than ever before.

So, no.

Maximo Alvarez,

don't ever give up yourself.

Thank you so much.

I'm sorry to cut this off, but I've got a network break.

But, Maximo, thank you.

He's the president of Sunshine Gasoline Distributors.

His website is sunshinegasoline.com.

And I appreciate the perspective coming from you and what you said with the president the other day.

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