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Speaker 1 Roy Wilson joins Glenn to talk about a training program that he started to help police departments de-escalate high-risk situations. Also, make sure you check out the documentary Uncle Tom.

Speaker 1 We have Larry Elder, executive producer of the documentary, to help explain the message the documentary is trying to tell.

Speaker 1 And finally, just a riveting interview, The Last Hour with Lara Logan, as she joins Glenn to talk about Antifa, the now domestic terrorist group, and lots more. Don't miss it.

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Speaker 13 All right, welcome to the Glenbeck program.

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Speaker 6 I want to start with a clip from Stephen Crowder from the Blaze TV.

Speaker 14 Stephen went down and took his microphone down to the streets of Dallas during the daytime and was talking to somebody who was a graffiti artist about what was happening.

Speaker 11 I want you to play this.

Speaker 21 I want you to really listen to this conversation.

Speaker 5 At least at that point, the officer has been held in accounting. No, no, no, no, I don't give a about none of that.
That don't matter, bro. So what would you say?

Speaker 5 What matters is is the message get out, that that was not right. That's what matters.
Well, I think the message is out. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 Do you think that breaking windows and the looting gets the message out, or do you think it hurts the message?

Speaker 5 All of it is the message.

Speaker 5 Everything, all of it is a part of the message, whether it's looting, whether it's painting on buildings, whether it's drawing on t-shirts, whether it's wearing certain shoes, all of it is a message, and it all needs to get out.

Speaker 5 It all needs to get out. Well, let me say, I think this is, I don't know the story exactly.
I think this is beautiful.

Speaker 5 I think this, well, that's true. But people can't loot.
People can't commit crimes because then that's a violation of other people's rights. But the police can kill people.
No, they can't.

Speaker 5 They shouldn't. But they have been.
They have been. And now people are looting and both are crimes.
No, and now people are rising up. That's what it is.
People is rising up. It ain't looting.

Speaker 3 It's rising up.

Speaker 22 So, this is the same.

Speaker 10 Ask that. Okay, stop.

Speaker 6 This is the argument that you're having with people all around the country.

Speaker 17 All around the country.

Speaker 8 Even our kids, if you have older kids, might be saying things like this: that, hey, well, this has got to stop.

Speaker 19 Yes, it does.

Speaker 19 But you must separate the two.

Speaker 26 We agree.

Speaker 27 It's only when you merge these two together that we have problems.

Speaker 26 Now, how do we talk about that? How do we get our police?

Speaker 27 to be able to talk to somebody when they don't see things the same way, except police should not be gunning down or kneeling on somebody's neck.

Speaker 16 We agree on George Floyd.

Speaker 29 So, how do we get past all of this?

Speaker 13 Let me show you one more piece.

Speaker 11 I want to

Speaker 13 show you the piece of video that I saw yesterday that I thought was unbelievable.

Speaker 28 It comes from Fayetteville.

Speaker 19 The police officers lined up across the street, and they were in two or three rows, and it looked like they were ready for confrontation.

Speaker 6 And then they took a knee.

Speaker 16 And what happened afterwards was phenomenal.

Speaker 18 Watch this video in case you haven't seen it and you're watching on the Blaze TV.

Speaker 8 All of a sudden, after they take a knee,

Speaker 17 many,

Speaker 21 if not most of the protesters take a knee. Takes them a while.

Speaker 17 And you're seeing them trying to figure out, wait, what's happening here?

Speaker 8 And the leadership of that protest kind of walks in front of them says take an e take an e

Speaker 23 then what's amazing is a little child leads

Speaker 22 who looks somebody who appears to be a child is the first one to go all the way over to the line and shake the hands of a police officer.

Speaker 6 Several people approach, they may have said something, but it's the child that actually is the one that goes all the way to the line first.

Speaker 24 And then more more people start coming to the line.

Speaker 11 And they line up just like at the end of any

Speaker 1 good sport

Speaker 25 game where they all shake hands at the end.

Speaker 21 This was miraculous.

Speaker 18 Now there is training that is being started now and Wayne State University is starting police de-escalation training because they're not trained in any of this kind of stuff.

Speaker 17 And M.

Speaker 11 Roy Wilson is the president of Wayne State University.

Speaker 25 He's with us now.

Speaker 17 Do I call you M, like the James Bond, or Roy?

Speaker 13 Or Mr. Wilson?

Speaker 32 Yes,

Speaker 32 either is fine. Dr.
Wilson, Roy, anything you want to call me. Okay.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 21 I kind of like M, and that's the one you left off.

Speaker 27 So, Roy, tell me what you're doing

Speaker 25 in trying to train the police, and how many officers and departments are involved?

Speaker 32 Yeah, so let me just first of all say that, that

Speaker 32 obviously being on radio, I couldn't see the image that you were portraying, but

Speaker 32 I was picturing it the way you were describing it, and it was a very beautiful imagery. And what happened there, the officers kneeling, it occurred to me that that is a form of de-escalation.

Speaker 32 And that's what we're talking about, trying to

Speaker 32 keep a situation from getting worse to aggression, into violence, and then ultimately sometimes people getting killed.

Speaker 32 You know, Samuel Du Bois, you might remember, this is about four or five years ago now. It was a black man that was fatally shot by a white University of Cincinnati police officer.

Speaker 32 It was during a routine traffic stop.

Speaker 32 And, you know, like the University of Cincinnati, you know, our officers are armed and have full police authority.

Speaker 32 The reaction, of course, was

Speaker 32 scathing in terms of what happened.

Speaker 32 And even though our officers have a very good relationship with the community,

Speaker 32 all it takes is just one incident to just break all that down. And

Speaker 32 it was devastating to the University of Cincinnati, and we don't want something like that happening here. So this National De-escalation Training Center is an attempt to

Speaker 32 start off with our own police department

Speaker 32 and we've already had a couple of training sessions.

Speaker 32 It's state-of-the-art de-escalation training, augmented with simulation training, and then use a hub and spoke model and have regional centers throughout the country.

Speaker 32 And we've begun that in Texas and in North Carolina, and there'll be others coming along.

Speaker 32 It's a nonprofit

Speaker 32 that

Speaker 32 is incorporated in the state of Michigan, or at least we've

Speaker 32 started that process so that there's not a profit motive here at all. It's really trying to get a public service to get out there and

Speaker 32 get de-escalation training.

Speaker 32 certainly among university police forces, but outside of that into other law enforcement too.

Speaker 11 So, I have to tell you, Dr.

Speaker 20 Wilson,

Speaker 18 I'm glad to hear that this is going on because

Speaker 29 we don't know how to talk to each other.

Speaker 25 And I've seen a few examples of

Speaker 19 the police here recently that have done some amazing things and just totally took the situation from very tense to

Speaker 19 almost a joyous situation.

Speaker 11 But what is the goal and what are the things that you are teaching?

Speaker 32 Well,

Speaker 32 it's based on personality profiling, being able to identify certain personalities quickly and based on the identification of personalities, being able to

Speaker 32 respond

Speaker 32 based on that particular personality.

Speaker 32 The actual instrument is something that's been used for a while. It's called DISC, DISC, which represents certain personality types.
But the

Speaker 32 I don't want to get too technical here, but

Speaker 32 there's been a modification of that to be even

Speaker 32 more precise. And so there's

Speaker 32 four

Speaker 32 personality types in DISC. And now with this modification, there's twenty-six subtypes that can be used to identify particular personality types.
And then, based on that,

Speaker 32 the law enforcement officers are trained to approach and modify their behavior

Speaker 32 based on the personalities of

Speaker 32 the subjects that they're apprehending.

Speaker 16 So, my question is,

Speaker 8 how do we get past

Speaker 16 because we're arguing two things?

Speaker 17 We're arguing about the protests and the riots, and I have no problem with peaceful protests at all.

Speaker 24 You can protest for anything, and I'm fine, and I'll

Speaker 18 stand by you and take the Billy Club to the head to stand up for your right to protest.

Speaker 17 That's very American.

Speaker 21 But then we have that mixed with the riots, which no American is for, and also mixed with this violence on George Floyd, which also, I think it's unanimous.

Speaker 27 no one is backing that.

Speaker 21 Everyone wants to see that guy go to jail.

Speaker 18 How do we separate these things to be able to have a rational conversation?

Speaker 32 Yeah, I mean, certainly it's very emotional. You know, when you really think about it, a black boy today has a one in 1,000 chance of being killed by law enforcement.

Speaker 32 Now, let me just put that in perspective. Let's say out of a population of 10 million, that's 10,000.
And I picked that 10 million because that's the population of Michigan where Wayne State is.

Speaker 32 And Michigan has been one of the states that has been ravaged by the coronavirus.

Speaker 32 And yet when you really think about the number of deaths, it's about a little over 5,000. So that's only half the number of black boys who will die if nothing is done.

Speaker 32 And so the emotion is understandable

Speaker 32 and

Speaker 32 the sense of urgency is understandable.

Speaker 32 But you're absolutely right. I mean,

Speaker 32 you have to separate the looting and the violence with the peaceful protests. And unfortunately, I do think that

Speaker 32 the actual message is getting a little bit drowned out by some of the negativity.

Speaker 10 I think the riots are the worst thing for.

Speaker 21 I mean, we could have been united on this easily because honestly, I don't know a single person that said, ah, well, it's no big deal.

Speaker 18 I don't know a single person that said, you know, now they found that fentanyl was in

Speaker 25 his bloodstream and he had a record, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 13 I still don't know anybody who said this was right.

Speaker 16 I mean, I don't care what your record was.

Speaker 20 If you are laying down on the ground and you have a police officer sitting

Speaker 17 on your neck, I don't care if you're Charles Manson.

Speaker 8 You are abusing human rights and you don't have a right as a cop to kill that guy.

Speaker 16 Sloppy is not even begin to describe that.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 17 I don't care who it is.

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Speaker 21 It is an honor to have Larry Elder with us.

Speaker 14 Larry Elder has been doing the Larry Elder Show for God only knows how long you've been doing it, Larry.

Speaker 24 You've been a voice in the wilderness for a very long time.

Speaker 11 Now you've come out with Uncle Tom, this documentary.

Speaker 17 And I want to play a clip before we begin.

Speaker 24 Play clip one, please.

Speaker 7 Most people are completely oblivious to the history of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 14 Party of slavery.

Speaker 7 The history of the Democratic Party. Dude, Crow They're erasing all of the history of this country.
They want to cover up history.

Speaker 4 The real history, not the revisionist history.

Speaker 7 If you are educated, black people have been taught a narrative that has been created.

Speaker 4 You're actually miseducated.

Speaker 15 And that's when I realized I've been lied to.

Speaker 7 I had been misled.

Speaker 11 It unraveled everything that I knew to be true.

Speaker 15 The documentary is called Uncle Tom,

Speaker 21 and it comes out next month.

Speaker 11 You can find out information on uncletom.com.

Speaker 28 Larry, welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 How are you, sir? Grant, I'm doing really great.

Speaker 33 The only small correction, it comes out June 19th. Just in a few days.

Speaker 22 Oh, oh, okay.

Speaker 29 Sorry.

Speaker 29 I thought it was in July.

Speaker 6 June 19th, great.

Speaker 33 Yeah, June 19th, actually. That's why we chose that date, Juneteenth.
That's the day of the celebration of the Emancipation Proclamation, so we thought we'd issue it out

Speaker 33 on that date.

Speaker 16 You know,

Speaker 11 growing up, I grew up in Seattle, so I didn't know about Juneteenth.

Speaker 24 Down in Texas,

Speaker 23 it's huge.

Speaker 14 I mean, it is a really big day down in Texas.

Speaker 10 And it's actually the day that the Emancipation Proclamation made it to the slaves in Texas, right? Right, right.

Speaker 33 And I didn't celebrate it either. I didn't even hear about that holiday until I got into college.

Speaker 33 And Glenn, the reason I did, Uncle Tom, is because the young director, Justin Malone, approached me a couple years ago.

Speaker 32 And he said, I'd like to interview you about why it is you get all this grief because you dare dare to dissent from the Democratic Party.

Speaker 33 He said, What is it that people are, why are you guys called Uncle Tom and Kuhn and self-loather? And I said, Well, it's because people have real strong views. And he kept saying, Yeah, but why?

Speaker 33 But why?

Speaker 33 And the more you said it, Glenn, the more I realized there's never been any sort of examination about what it is that causes people like Alan West and Candace Owens and Larry Elder and Herman Cain and

Speaker 33 Bob Woodson and some other people to be called all these vile names names when all we're suggesting is A, your fate is in your hands, B, America in the year 2020 is not America in the year 1820, and C, not everything that's bothering you can be traced to Jim Crow and slavery.

Speaker 33 And for that reason, we're called all sorts of names. Wouldn't it be good news, Glenn, if we were right? I mean,

Speaker 33 I'm looking at all this stuff going on in our streets, and I tell people that if anything, the cops are more hesitant, more reluctant, to pull the trigger on a black suspect than on a white suspect.

Speaker 33 There have been several studies that suggest that, including one by a black economist at Harvard named Rolling Fire. He said it was the most shocking result of his career.

Speaker 33 He assumed his study was going to confirm the narrative that the police are out mawing down black people, using disproportionate force against them.

Speaker 33 And he found not only was it not true, that cops were more hesitant, more reluctant to use deadly force against black people.

Speaker 33 Now, when I say this, inevitably, Glenn, as you know, on radio, somebody will call up and they'll be hostile, and I'll be called Uncle Tom and all this.

Speaker 33 And I always say to them, why don't you pull for me?

Speaker 33 Why don't you want me to be right? Call me naive. Call me oblivious.
But my goodness, Uncle Tom, what is this? We just had a black president, Glenn.

Speaker 33 We had back-to-back black attorneys general for crying out loud, this is not your father's America.

Speaker 33 And to act like it is, in my opinion, insults the hard work that people like MLK did to get us to the place we are right now.

Speaker 11 MLK has got to be rolling in his grave, along, honestly, with George Floyd.

Speaker 19 I mean, if this were my legacy

Speaker 11 and this is what my death caused,

Speaker 8 I would be horrified, horrified.

Speaker 33 Absolutely. And the premise, the premise is just false.
There are 7,000 black people who are killed on average in the last several years. Almost all of them are killed by other blacks.

Speaker 33 When you look at interracial black-white homicide, it is rare, but to the extent that it happens, it's about 750 times each year, Glenn. 500 of them are white people killed by blacks.

Speaker 33 250 are blacks killed by whites. So blacks at 13% of the population kill twice as many whites as whites kill with 61% of the population.
These are just facts.

Speaker 33 Last year, there were nine unarmed blacks killed by the police. There were 19 unarmed whites.

Speaker 33 I defy your audience to name an unarmed white because MSNBC, CNN, Van Jones, Don Lamont, they don't give a damn about an unarmed white guy, but an unarmed black guy, let's call out the guard, let's bring up Washington, let's march on the city.

Speaker 33 This is how the media manipulates you meanwhile Memorial Day weekend Chicago 10 people killed 49 people shot year to year more people shot in Chicago and killed in Chicago than last year even though they've been under a coronavirus shutdown we're not talking about that we're not talking about that because we're talking about the rare occasion unfortunate obviously where somebody a police officer has done something to a black guy an officer did not the police department this individual officer did let's deal with the individual officer or officers involved in the case.

Speaker 19 You know,

Speaker 8 the officer in this particular case, Larry, what are your thoughts on

Speaker 20 him?

Speaker 33 Well, I think that the officer who did this certainly should be charged.

Speaker 33 Whether he's charged, whether he gets convicted of first-degree murder is a whole different ballgame, and that's what bothers me.

Speaker 33 He's been charged with third-degree murder, which seems reasonable to me. I doubt that he was intentionally trying to kill this guy in front of all these people and in front of the the police officer.

Speaker 33 Right. But certainly he acted negligently

Speaker 33 in a criminal way. Whether the other officers are equally culpable is another question that's open.

Speaker 33 My concern, though, Glenn, is this autopsy that was done by Michael Biden and the lawyer, and they both said this suggests a first-degree homicide count should be filed. Really?

Speaker 33 First-degree requires intent deliberation.

Speaker 33 Are you telling me that this guy got up in the morning and said, I'm going to find a black guy, I'm going to kneel on his neck and kill him in front of a bunch of people telling me not to do it and in front of three other police officers?

Speaker 2 Good luck with that one.

Speaker 33 And if that's the marker, you're going to have another riot when the jury comes back and says not guilty on first degree.

Speaker 28 Yeah, well,

Speaker 17 you cannot prove the intent and forethought.

Speaker 22 I mean,

Speaker 28 how are you going to unless he said to somebody, you know what,

Speaker 11 that's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 16 There's no way to have first degree murder.

Speaker 28 Third degree murder, manslaughter, open and shut, open and shut case, in my opinion.

Speaker 33 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 27 So, Larry, how do we have?

Speaker 11 I've never seen something that America has come together on more than this. I mean, I don't know of an American that's saying, no, let the police get away with it.

Speaker 19 I don't know anybody who thinks this guy was right.

Speaker 22 Not a soul.

Speaker 3 And Glenn and Glenn, and that's the point.

Speaker 33 It would be one thing if the fraternal order of police put out a statement and said, well, this is standard tactics. How dare you accuse this officer of homicide?

Speaker 33 In fact, if fraternal order of police put out a statement, denounce what these officers did. I don't know a single cop, publicly or privately, who's ever said this is okay.

Speaker 33 You've got a very liberal mayor who's sympathetic. You've got the vice president of city council who happens to be black.
The state attorney general in Minnesota is black.

Speaker 33 What gives you the impression that when all these officers were fired summarily and the lead cop arrested and charged, what makes you think we will not be thoroughly investigated such that you've got to go out in the streets and tear up the place for six or eight days now in a row?

Speaker 33 This is absurd.

Speaker 24 So what's happening, Larry?

Speaker 33 What's happening is you've got a bunch of people who've been taught that if there's any kind of thing that goes wrong, you should assume that it's

Speaker 33 a reflection of institutional racism. It's a microcosm of institutional racism.

Speaker 33 The point is, we've gotten to the point in America, in my opinion, Glenn, where race is so insignificant, the media and the so-called leaders have to invent stuff in order to keep blacks angry, so they pull that lever, 95 cents for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 33 That's why I made this documentary. The documentary simply gives black people permission to think for themselves.

Speaker 33 That same line that one person gave me when he saw my film, I screened it for a couple hundred people, and he said it was completely different than what I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 33 I thought it was going to be combative and angry and defensive. It was nothing like that.
Your film gives black people permission to think for themselves.

Speaker 33 It's not pro-Republican, it's not pro-Democrat, it's not pro-Trump, it's not anti-Trump. It gives you permission to think for yourself.

Speaker 33 Which party is the best party that will give your kid the best education?

Speaker 33 The party that says you're going to go to a government school, whether you want to or not, or the party that wants to give you a choice? Just think for yourself. That's all Uncle Tom is asking.

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Speaker 23 You know this, I don't have to tell you this, but there has been a coordinated effort to discredit voices that could make an impact that we're calling you back to the Constitution.

Speaker 16 You know this because you've watched it happen to me and so many others that you have grown to love and trust.

Speaker 14 It's a very well-funded operation.

Speaker 18 It was about, I think, a hundred million dollars in

Speaker 8 money and in basically free advertisement or free anti-PR that places like Media Matters spent and procured to take me down.

Speaker 14 You'll read about it in Cheryl Atkinson's book.

Speaker 11 I was kind of the prototype for it, and they have done it. They've gotten much better, and they have done it time and time again.

Speaker 8 It is time for us to stand with credible voices, the people that you have grown to trust, and be unashamed in speaking out for truth.

Speaker 25 Lara Logan is one of those voices that we need to listen to.

Speaker 14 If you're looking for, well, who will tell me the truth?

Speaker 11 I truly believe in Lara Logan.

Speaker 19 She was the chief foreign affairs correspondent for 60 minutes.

Speaker 11 I mean, well, there was a time that, you know, not just anybody got on to 60 minutes, but now I think those days are over.

Speaker 23 But she worked for CBS News for years.

Speaker 19 She is a buttoned-up journalist with wide, wide contacts.

Speaker 11 And she has been investigating Antifa

Speaker 25 and the riots for a while.

Speaker 18 And she knows the background of all of these organizations, and she's here to tell us what she thinks is really going on.

Speaker 20 Hello, Laura.

Speaker 22 How are you?

Speaker 4 Hey, Glenn, I'm good. Thank you.
How are you? Well, don't know about good.

Speaker 4 Well, concerned right now.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I know that you're being taken down by media matters now for saying that you're lying.

Speaker 20 Yeah, they're trying. Yeah, they're trying.

Speaker 19 But

Speaker 18 they're saying that you are

Speaker 8 lying about Antifa being involved in this.

Speaker 19 So take us through this story and the facts that you have on Antifa.

Speaker 4 It's kind of extraordinary that anybody in this country right now is defending

Speaker 4 a very violent terrorist organization, right? A network of organizations, because that's what these anarchist

Speaker 4 groups really represent. And you don't have to take my word for that.
I mean, A, look at what's happening on the streets. And B, you know, more importantly, look at their history of doing this.

Speaker 4 And then C, just go and see what they're saying about it, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, because they're not hiding it, which is, in a way, even more concerning because for those of us who've followed this for a while and know that this is what they're doing and that this is what their agenda is,

Speaker 4 that is what's always been troubling is the way that so many people in the media and in the political establishment have given them cover.

Speaker 4 to operate, including law enforcement, by the way, and one administration after the other. This is not a Democrat-Republican left-right blue, you know, red thing.

Speaker 4 These are extremists. And

Speaker 4 you see a lot of parallels between extremists on the left and the right.

Speaker 4 They're almost, you know, with one or two small differences, they pretty much operate. the same way exactly.

Speaker 4 I mean, there's no difference between what Antifa is doing and the brown shirts of Nazi Germany or the black shirts of Mussolini.

Speaker 4 So they've perpetuated this extraordinarily successful deception operation where they have people

Speaker 4 convinced that they're the anti-fascists. That's what the name means, right? But they're not at all.

Speaker 4 They are extreme fascists who

Speaker 4 their own literature shows that the world that they want is one where there are no laws

Speaker 4 and in which there are no borders, no prisons. But it's very interesting, of course, because how do you have all that? but still actually have some form of order?

Speaker 4 Well, somebody has to enforce it, right?

Speaker 4 So this is where the ideology kind of breaks down um because there will be people enforcing it let me see who they are going to be wow the militant networks will enforce it i mean people need people need to understand abolitionist movement glenn you know go and look at the 10 points you know what has to happen for them to get to point number 10 in their words uh liberation begins when america dies and that's what they're looking for so people defending that um are really showing themselves for who they are right i mean they targeted you

Speaker 4 they've come after me. How many others? There are so many others.
And they do it with their own deception operation. They're pretending that they care about good journalism.
They don't.

Speaker 4 They care about silencing, intimidating, destroying, annihilating, and getting us all to self-censor so that we don't cover any of the subjects they don't want us talking about.

Speaker 28 Lara, let me take you to a bigger picture than just Antifa.

Speaker 11 And that is,

Speaker 17 I said probably 15 years ago that socialists, communists, radicals, anarchists, Islamists would all work together.

Speaker 25 Not that they were coordinating, but they would all see the opportunity and they would all work for the same goal, and that's destruction of capitalism and destruction of the Western world.

Speaker 10 I don't think there's any doubt in your mind that that's what's happening right now, correct?

Speaker 4 You know, it's really interesting because a few years ago, I probably would not have agreed with you on that.

Speaker 4 I would have agreed in principle that it's possible for people with the same intent and the same goals to align, but I didn't really see this coming. I'm not going to take credit for that, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm cynical enough to know that just looking at the way the Iranians do it, they play every horse in the race and on all sides, and they've been extraordinarily successful at doing that.

Speaker 4 So it's not that I don't think it's possible, but I now see that you are absolutely correct and you can add to that mix state actors, as they call them in the intelligence world, as a number of intelligence professionals have said, right?

Speaker 4 So state actors like China, the Chinese Communist Party, whose ideology appears to align, certainly the intent aligns up right now beautifully because the Chinese government does not want Donald Trump and his administration anywhere near the Oval Office.

Speaker 4 They do not want to be shut out of the World Trade Organization and global institutions. They do not want the U.S.

Speaker 4 sending, shutting down their vast network, surveillance network that they've infiltrated through the universities, but then from there into every kind of business, which I'm sure you've talked about on your show many times.

Speaker 4 And they're not the only ones, right? I mean, very alarmingly, I can't tell you, I can't give away my source.

Speaker 4 But let's just say that the vice president of one of an allied country to us got in touch with me recently. And when he sends me these kind of messages, I like,

Speaker 4 you know, I kind of like, ah, because this man is probably the most brilliant man I've ever met in my life. And

Speaker 4 when he's asking, you know, about

Speaker 4 is this really happening? Because what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing from the region is that this is the end of the US.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 it's looking like this is

Speaker 4 not going to pass. And we're wondering where that leaves us.
And America is a beacon in our world. It's a beacon in the dark.
And

Speaker 4 if we lose you, we've lost everything. And when I saw that, this is a country, by the way, that we have not been kind to of late.

Speaker 4 This is not a country that

Speaker 4 is immune to criticizing the United States. And this is somebody I have enormous respect for who is extremely plugged in.
When he says the region. He's talking to the region.
And so they see it.

Speaker 4 They see it across on the other side of the world. What the New York Times cannot see, they see thousands of miles away.

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Speaker 34 and likes complicated recipes.

Speaker 34 But for booking her trip to Paris, Olivia chose the easy way with Expedia. She bundled her flight with a hotel to save more.
Of course, she still climbed all 674 steps to the top of the Eiffel Tower.

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