Best of The Program | Guests: Dan Bongino, Elijah Schaffer, & Sheriff Grady Judd | 6/2/20

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The media calls Trump weak and authoritarian for bunkering down in the White House. But former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino has a better perspective: Did Trump even have a choice? BlazeTV’s Elijah Schaffer discusses why piles of bricks are showing up at protest sites. Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd went viral for warning looters not to attack suburbs and encouraging residents to have their guns ready.

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In the car,

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even sleeping.

So when they finally went on tour, Martha bundled her flight and hotel on Expedia to see them live.

She saved so much, she got a seat close enough to actually see and hear them.

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Hey, it's Pat Gray and today on the Glenn Beck radio program, we had Dan Bongino stopped by to talk to Glenn about the president's move into the bunker.

Does President Trump have a right to unleash the military?

Spoiler alert, he does.

Also, Elijah Schaefer talks with Glenn about some of the groups he's seeing out on the streets during these riots.

And

finally, we have Sheriff Grady Judd from Pole County to talk about his press conference that went super viral.

All that and more coming up on the podcast.

You're listening to the best of the Blenbeck program.

Well, of course, CNN is talking about the White House bolstering its defenses.

CNN reported that it was bolstering the White House defenses like authoritarian countries do.

Pat, tell me the last time you heard of 50 Secret Service agents hurt in any kind of confrontation.

That was the 15th of Never.

I'm pretty sure.

Right?

I don't think I've ever heard of that.

I never ever heard of that.

And the president doesn't decide when he goes to

the bunker.

It's my understanding.

But somebody who does know this is Dan Bongino, the host of the Dan Bongino show, and a former Secret Service agent that was on the presidential detail at the White House for Barack Obama.

Hello, Dan.

How are you?

Go ahead.

Good to talk to you.

Yeah, you're right.

That analysis is correct.

Okay, so

first of all, tell me the last time you heard of any story with 50 Secret Service agents killed at any time in American history?

Or not killed, but injured?

Never.

I mean, I can recall being at G7s, you know, UNGA, UN General Assemblies up in New York, where we've, you know, there was a WTO, where we've had, you know, here and there at perimeters, we've had people injured, things thrown at them, bottles generally.

But even overseas, where we were over in Georgia, I wasn't on that trip, but I was in the training center at the time.

That time where they threw the grenade at President Bush.

I don't know if you remember that one.

Even then, the injury count of the agents and staff and everyone was far less than what we saw at this insurrection at the White House.

Listen, Glenn, that was not a protest.

It should have been, and it could have been.

There are obviously legitimate gripes here that should be aired.

But that's not what that was.

This is an insurrection.

It was a riot.

And I can tell you from sources of mine that were there, more than credible and unimpeachable, that the attack on the White House, and that's what it was over a period of days, was very organized.

It was done using very strategic tactics.

They were using this kind of lift and shift model where they would hit a certain point, get the officers there, get the Secret Service Uniform Division there, and then when they got them in one spot, they would move to another spot trying to sense the Achilles heel.

This is not the stuff, Glenn, of a bunch of like, you know, two-bit criminals who just found themselves at the White House House on a Saturday and Sunday night.

I want to be crystal clear.

This was organized by Antifa terrorists.

It's not a joke.

It's not hyperbole.

These were people committed to an insurrection that was thankfully put down.

So,

Dan, let me go, before we get back into all of that, let me go back to the other.

They're saying that, you know,

he was a coward for hiding in the bunker, et cetera, et cetera.

Does the president have a right to say no when the Secret Service says, you have to move now, Mr.

President?

Well, let me give you the textbook, and then let's throw out the textbook and talk reality.

So the textbook answer to that is no, he doesn't have the right to say no.

The Secret Service has the authority under Title 18, U.S.

Code 3056, to protect the president however they deem necessary.

Here's the real world.

He's the president of the United States.

And I always refer back when questions like this come up to that dopey movie.

Was it the American President or something?

Michael J.

Fox is the chief of staff.

And Margie says, well, I want to get out and

jump out here and say hello to some people.

And he says something like, you know, there's no jumping, Mr.

President.

If the president wants to get out and jump out and say hello to people, he's going to do it.

I can't tell you how many times we told President Bush and President Obama, it's probably not a good idea that you do this, and they do it anyway.

I mean, I can only recall one situation where they shut the president down when they told him we are absolutely not going to do this.

So, you know,

if he says, I'm not going, they're probably not going to take him.

Having said that, in a situation like that, where there was very little doubt amongst those people they were trying to storm that White House, I think they would have overrode in there and said, Mr.

President, we're really sorry.

You can punish us later for this, but we've got to go.

He did not make that call

to Trump.

Dan, you know that

I'm protected by Gavin DeBecker and associates, and you know who they are, I'm sure.

And there is a difference between when they say, We highly recommend, we really don't want you to, and I can override them.

But there are also times that I have been where they have picked me up by my pants, like the president, and thrown me into the car

and said,

I'm sorry, you're not doing it, or we're not protecting you.

We will not guarantee your safety on this.

We won't protect you.

And we've gone to war zones and everything else.

But there has been a couple of times where they said no and i had no choice unless i wanted to fire all of them uh and which you know i didn't the president can't fire the secret service they do have the right and if 50 secret service men and women were injured they're at the white house trying to protect the white house i got to believe they walked in and said i don't care what you're saying mr president 50 secret service agents have just been injured you're in the bunker

Yeah.

And yeah, you're right.

And just to double down on what you're talking about here, number one, the president is one of the few protectees who cannot, what we call the Secret Service, sign off.

Other protectees, foreign dignitaries, they can sign off.

They can literally sign a piece of paper saying, I don't want you guys here.

Whatever.

I'm going out to party on a Saturday night.

I don't want you around.

And the Secret Service can say, okay,

there's a paper.

They sign it.

And that's the end of it.

The President of the United States cannot do that.

He has no authority, even himself, to sign off

none.

Zero, number one.

And number two, you're right.

Oh, you have a private security team.

It's very good.

But they have professional liability standards too, Glenn.

If you said, listen, I want to walk into this serial murderer's house on a Saturday night while he's high on drugs, and I'd like you guys to, and they say, hey, that's a really bad idea.

They're not going to let you do it because they'd be humiliated when you get murdered.

They'd be on the front page of your correct.

Don't be security firm.

Let's Glenn Beck get himself killed.

They're not going to do that.

So in a situation like Sunday, Saturday night, where we're looking at a darn insurrection at the White House, I don't blame the Secret Service one bit for saying, Mr.

President, we really got to go.

And shame on the media, by the way, for painting this as some kind of situation where Trump ran like a coward.

You know what he said yesterday?

He said, fellas, hold my beer.

You think I'm going to sit in the White House?

I'm going to take my ass.

I'm going to show you the stones I do have.

And whether you like this guy or not, I'm going to walk across the street in the middle of a riot in the middle of D.C., and I'm going to show you whose streets these really are.

They're ours.

The American people.

They're not the streets of the rioters.

He's getting heat for that because they used, they're actually calling tear gas chemical weapons,

that he used chemical weapons on that crowd of protesters without any warning, which we know for a fact is not true.

We know people that were there, and they say that there were two warnings issued.

Warning, that evacuate the area evacuate the area uh and or or you will be uh confronted with tear gas so they warned people uh and the president if he's got to go someplace he's going someplace and i i don't think that was a problem at all

i don't i i don't yeah and i candidly don't give a rat's ass anymore what the media says they're actually putting the president of the united states and government figures in danger you may say oh my gosh damn that's rough to to say.

Is it really?

Let me tell you something.

If they did not report on this bunker incident and it just either kept the lid on it or reported on it responsibly, saying, hey, the Secret Service made a security call to remove the president to the bunker, instead of writing stupid articles like, the president runs in shame to the bunker, which is totally false and made up, Glenn, ironically, by writing like that, they incentivize the president to go out and say, listen, now we have to do some kind of symbolic show of force or we're going to lose the White House.

They don't understand, like, because they're not smart.

They're morons.

These are imbeciles with double-digit IQs who are only in this to aggravate an already bad situation.

And it's a shame because they're really incentivizing this kind of stuff to happen.

They don't even see their role in it.

So, Dan, you came to me when I was on Fox.

Can I tell this story?

Have we told this story before?

Of course.

My gosh, that was so long ago.

That was great.

So long ago.

Yeah.

And you were there at the White House during Obama, and you came to me during a show, and I remember coming over to shake your hand and say hello, and you said in the break, I'm leaving the White House because I'm watching you, and I know I'm seeing everybody watching in the White House, and I know what you're saying is true.

You were there.

Can you talk a little bit about ObamaGate and

what we're probably not going to even care about at the end of this summer that we should care about.

I think I said on your show, a video, I'm pretty sure because the thing want nuclear, like this has to be maybe eight, nine years ago.

I'm almost positive it was your show, where I warned that the problem with the Obama administration was he was surrounded by sycophants who wouldn't tell him what he couldn't do.

And when you combine that, and you may say, and listen, to be fair here, every administration has sycophants.

You may say, say, even the administration, now, everyone does.

The problem with the Obama administration, I think the warning I gave on your show is when you combine that with this toxic stew, Glenn, of media permissibility, where the media, in contrast to Trump with Obama, everything he did was okay, you invite a Lord Acton scenario where power corrupts.

And what do they say?

All great men are

bad men.

You have a bad guy, Obama, with, I think, bad motivations, who had no control mechanism.

There was no choke point for his behavior.

And ObamaGate, at the end, I had left the Secret Service by the time Obamacape was happening.

But from my sources and the books I wrote about it, who were feeding me information about what happened, my FBI guys, it is the biggest scandal in American history, and it's a direct result of the media refusing to call out the President of the United States for abusing and weaponizing the powers at his discretion.

It was a shame.

What he did is disgraceful.

So, is there a possibility that it is this same deep state that is supporting?

I mean, I look at, you know, George Soros and the State Department and the riots going all the way back to the Arab Spring that they helped produce and topple different governments.

This is taking the same kind of course.

Is there a chance that the deep state is involved in this at all?

You know, it's funny.

We didn't plan this.

I didn't talk to you before the show, but I'm actually writing a different book.

And I don't even want to, I'm not even going to tell you that because I'm not interested, but I just want to put this out there.

I'm done with it.

I actually finished it.

And the book is about following this deep state money trail.

And it's interesting you bring up Soros.

You know, everybody's like, oh, my gosh, you can't talk about.

No, no, I will.

I'll talk about whatever the hell I want.

You can kiss my ass.

I'm not listening to any leftist media and errors.

No, I'm dead serious.

Like, I give exactly.

No, I know you are.

No,

I don't.

I mean, I'm not going to give these media matters lunatics.

I actually have the documents and a money trail showing that the same people, Glenn, in this deep state that the left says doesn't exist, involved in the spygate thing and the advancement of false narratives emanating from Ukraine and elsewhere.

Trump's a spy.

He's colluding with the Russians.

You know, he's from the gold sinker James Bond movies.

Oh, my gosh.

The same exact people were involved in the impeachment hoax.

The same people.

It's on paper.

Just look at the documents.

It's on paper.

But the media will never tell you that story because when you bring up Soros, oh, my gosh, George Soros, oh, you can't bring up.

No, I'll bring up whatever the hell I want.

And that's in the book.

So your assertion there is entirely accurate.

It is the exact same people.

They're all over.

Their fingerprints are on everything.

And it's really gross that the media won't get their heads out of their collective rear ends and report on this.

Well, I think they're part of it.

I think they would rather have a world with Antifa than a world with Donald Trump and people who go to church.

That's the way it feels, at least.

Dan Bongino.

Have you seen their covering for them?

I mean, it's gross.

I know.

Dan Bongino, great to have you on.

You can find him at bongino.com, B-O-N-G-I-N-O.com, Bongino.com, and follow him at D Bongino on Twitter.

Thank you so much.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Let me go to Elijah Schaefer, who has been down with these

rioters for a long time.

He's been following Antifa.

And when you were up with

Antifa and you were watching them beat people, et cetera, et cetera, you told me at the time, Elijah, that the police would just mysteriously disappear.

That's because the police chief and the mayor

are for Antifa, seemingly.

Are you seeing a difference between other protests and, for instance, the Dallas police as opposed to

the

Portland police?

Yeah, I think one interesting aspect,

and I could be correct if I'm wrong, but Andy knows a journalist has talked to me about how like the mayor of Portland similarly is the the police commissioner and so some of these mayors have an uncanny amount of power and and influence as we just heard over the police department whether indirectly by directing anger from their their populace towards them and misrepresenting them or directly by telling them that they can they need to stand down and not do their jobs but I have absolutely watched

not not where that police were overrun in cities like Portland over the years.

I watched as they've just begun to gain control.

While I don't have a radio, I watched them answer calls, get back on their trucks, in their cars, and leave, and watch the protests and riots turn violent and the vandalism increase when they had the opportunity to stop it in its tracks.

So, what is your take on this, Elijah?

As you've watched these guys,

I mean, it's really important for top-down, bottom-up, inside-out, that theory that I've been,

you know, explaining for the last 15 years, that you've got to have people in power.

This is the way they flipped countries to be communist.

You have to have people who are communist in power, but they don't necessarily say they are,

but they have enough control to where they can move the system.

You have to control the attorney generals and the prosecutors.

We know that George Soros has been doing that for a while now.

And you have to have these uprisings in the streets, no one prosecuted, no one paying any price

until the people just stand up and they say to the federal government, help us, help us, nobody's helping us.

And that's when you flip the country to a Marxist utopia.

Does that sound too crazy at this point, Elijah?

No, you know, it doesn't, Glenn.

And I think what's really important

for your listeners to understand is that I have been documenting groups like RevCom, Revolutionary Now, in Los Angeles, for years.

Just recently, I have them on camera.

They're calling for a revolution in the streets.

They are yelling and taunting, and they are completely calling on people to revolt.

And people laugh at me.

Oh, why do you pay attention to this group?

Why do you pay attention to that group?

And I go, because they are literally calling for an attack on our country, internalizing it, and calling for violence in our streets.

And I take people seriously that call for threats of violence in our streets.

Well,

it looks like they're not laughing anymore because groups like that are working tirelessly in large cities like Los Angeles to wreak havoc.

And they're getting at least the first taste of the revolution.

And if we've seen this escalation, in just the last couple years where the media laughed at me, mocked me, called me a propagandist for saying that these were viable threats, to now just two years later, they're saying, oh, actually, these people are burning down our cities.

I wonder if the next step, as we're seeing in the protests last night and riots, that violence in just three days have escalated.

So we went from two years to three days.

Who knows what's going to happen in the next 24 hours?

So tell me what you know about

the BRICS situation.

Because I've heard two stories on this, and we're close to some some information that I hope to be releasing this week.

But at this point,

until I have that information,

I don't know if it's just a coincidence.

And,

you know, Antifa happens to know where the construction site is, and so they say, hey, everybody, meet here.

But I've...

I've been around a while now, and most construction sites are fenced off.

So you can't go steal a pallet of bricks, which is a lot of money.

But these organizers are meeting at places where there's these pallets of bricks, and they appear to be part of a construction site, most of them.

But is this a coincidence, or do you think this is coordinated?

That's a really important question, and I want to make sure I only speak to what I know here so that we don't conjecture.

I went ahead and spoke to somebody who worked in bricklaying for quite some time, and they confirmed with me that construction sites do not leave bricks out, that they're a commodity that is often stolen.

They're also completely sealed, often with wired bars when they're left,

that continue to keep the package in place after it's brought off of a flatbed.

But you know, Glenn, that night when I made the claim that it was organized, that people were leading people to pallets of bricks, you know, I was mocked online and ridiculed as if maybe, just maybe, I wasn't trying to start a conspiracy.

Maybe I was myself shocked to realize that somebody was looking to increase the violence and the vandalism.

And I saw pallets of bricks in places where there was not construction, and I uploaded video footage of even protesters acknowledging in filming, like, oh, this is so fishy.

I see this.

There's not a construction around here.

These bricks are here.

And there is footage right now online, and your audience can look it up, of right near protests, flatbeds of trucks just coming and just dropping off pallets of bricks the day of the protest, while there's caught cars all around.

And that's what's most suspicious to me.

Cock cars are there while a flatbed truck goes into a parking lot right next to the protest and drops off two giant pallets of bricks into the middle of a parking lot.

I mean, if that doesn't breathe suspicion in the eyes of any smart and intelligent American of why bricks were being dropped off in an inner city in front of officers while a riot is ensuing, then I I don't know what would.

I wonder if the Teamsters could answer that question.

Teamsters would know who those truck drivers are.

Teamsters would know what

the usual is.

I wonder if they would answer that question.

Yeah,

I absolutely implore anyone with information, whether you work in construction or you have background, to try to bring some clarity to the national conversation.

And that's why, for the first time, I think Americans are not only realizing that it's up to them to protect themselves, whether it's

from deadly force that seems to be escalating where police cannot help them.

One pretty liberal individual on Twitter said that he called the police because of an altercation between rioters and his neighbor.

And the police said, the city is under attack.

It's on you right now.

Do what you need to.

And he goes, is this really America?

And yes, this is America

in a good and a bad way.

In a bad way, because we're seeing our own governments that have been falling apart for years unable to protect us, but on a good way because America has always been by the people and for the people.

It's up to you to protect yourself.

And right now, not only physically, but information-wise, you cannot trust the media, and we need you to help.

So if anyone knows and has information, please contact myself, Elijah Schaefer online, or this program, and help us bring to light the evidence and the deception of people who are trying to pretend like this is all just random and somehow every city in America is just burning accidentally at the exact same time.

Elijah,

how do you think Trump is being viewed by the average American and the Trump supporter?

Because I have heard many Trump supporters saying he's being weak.

He's not reacting.

I know that Tucker Carlson

did a monologue last night where he pretty much called him weak.

What is your thought?

You You know,

Glenn, I have been a very, a very big supporter of the President of the United States

since early on, since I saw him

continue and completely ignore the advice of so-called quote-unquote wise counselors and instead speak to the heart of the American worker and people and just act like a run-of-the-mill man who doesn't take any crud from people.

You know,

I don't think any leader just like George Bush during 9-11 really could fully understand how to respond to this because he's in a very precarious situation.

Everyone already calls him racist and fascist and

compares him to

Adolf Hitler.

And so essentially, no matter what he does in this situation, I know as a man, you wouldn't you're going to be labeled in a very negative light.

If you're tough on the violence, then you're racist.

If you're not tough, you're weak.

But I think everyone needs to give him a a little bit of time.

I do think that his speech was about three days too late that he gave, but it was warmly welcomed in my understanding.

And I would hope that as he speaks and says that, you know, that America is a country of the rule of law, that he would completely stand behind that and that he would set an example and a precedent.

But weakness is not the right word, but maybe just a little bit delayed.

And perhaps, just perhaps, that could be because of bad counsel from people like Jared Kushner.

All right.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

That's Elijah Schaefer.

You can follow him at

Elijah Schaefer.com.

Is that the web address I'm looking for?

Your web address here, Elijah?

Yeah, you can go to youtube.com/slash slightly offensive or find extended content as well at blazetv.com/slash slightly offensive.

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I have to play some audio from yesterday.

This is Sheriff

Grady Judd.

He is the Sheriff of Polk County, Florida.

I want you to listen to what he said in a press conference.

We have received information on social media that some of the criminals were going to take their criminal conduct into the neighborhoods.

I would tell them if you value your life, you probably shouldn't do that in Polk County

because the people of Polk County like guns,

they have guns,

I encourage them to own guns, and they're going to be in their homes tonight with their guns loaded.

And if you try to break into their homes to steal,

to set fires,

I'm highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns.

So leave the community alone.

I lived

in Polk County, I think.

I lived in Polk County, Florida, and I did not get a chance to vote for him, but I think I would have.

He was overwhelmingly elected sheriff in 2004, re-elected in 8, 12, 16, and I'm guessing he's going to do well the next time should he decide to run.

Welcome to the program.

Grady Judd.

Thank you very much, and certainly I want to continue serving the the people of Polk County and keeping them safe and supporting them while they do the right thing.

So,

Grady,

did you see something

in your county that disturbed you, or is this just what's happening all around the country?

And they've been saying they're coming to the suburbs.

So, you were just

making sure everybody understood.

The county is about 690,000 people, and as you can imagine, we have a large sheriff's office here.

And our intelligence group picked this chatter up off of the

different Facebook or social media posts.

I don't think it was on Facebook.

It was another social media.

We weren't able to verify it at the time of the press conference, but we take all of those threats serious until we can discount them.

And we weren't able to discount it because we saw it from more than one source.

So I was responding to a reporter's question, but at the end of the day, that's, to me, common sense.

I mean, it's gone viral.

I looked last night and it was 2.5 million views.

But think about this, Glenn.

All we said was what every citizen in the United States has a right to do.

You're home in your house and looters take to the neighborhoods and they're going to break into your home to rob, to steal, to set your house on fire, why wouldn't you blow them out of your house with your firearm?

You've got the right to protect yourself, your family, and your home.

So to me, it was just common sense.

I find it interesting, Grady, that there has been such a movement to get guns out of the hands of average citizens.

And the same people who have been trying to do that are now in the streets causing all of this ruckus and saying we're coming to your house.

You think it's a coincidence, or are these things coordinated, do you think?

I think it's absolutely coordinated.

You know, it's pretty basic, but you know, the old saying, when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

The reality is, I've been in law enforcement my entire adult life.

Outlaws, criminals, thugs, they don't pay any attention to rules.

If they did, we wouldn't have criminal conduct.

And the criminals always have guns.

So that's what shocks me about this.

The criminals always have guns.

So if the criminals have guns, why in God's green earth wouldn't we want law-abiding citizens to at least be able to arm themselves to protect themselves and their families?

And there are areas in this country, if people didn't have guns in their homes, they wouldn't be safe.

So what we're saying is, look,

when the criminals start obeying the law, when the criminals start doing what's right, then come back to us and talk about gun control.

I don't think we'll ever have that conversation.

I don't think so either.

I still wouldn't give up my gun.

I mean, I have a right to protect myself, and I think we're seeing now why there needs to be magazines that hold hold more than seven bullets.

I mean look at some of these beatdowns that are happening in the cities.

There are you know 10, 12, 15, 20 people that are after one person and just beating them.

I mean

you know I have a right to live and I have a right to my own opinion and I have a right to say it.

You have a right to protest, but not to beat me to death.

At least give me a shot of saving my own life.

And that's absolutely correct.

But I can assure you of one thing, that

that second, third, fourth, fifth person, when you modify that first person's behavior with a gun, the others decide to go the other way.

And when you can't be safe in your home, you can't be safe anyplace at all.

But you have the right, especially in the state of Florida, we have beautiful laws, not only castle doctrine laws, but we all also have a stand-your-ground law.

And it's really been taken out of context.

Our stand your ground law doesn't mean that you can enter into a conflict and stand your ground.

The intent and the pure purpose of that law is you're a law-abiding citizen behaving, walking down the street, minding your own business, and someone comes up to attack you, to beat you down with

a stick, a baseball bat, they have a knife, they have a gun, certainly you have the right to protect yourself.

You don't have to run from somebody that may be faster and certainly wants to assault you.

And to me, it's common sense.

And when you look where the problems are occurring, traditionally it's in the communities that have stopped the good people from doing what's right, possessing their firearms, having easy-to-access concealed weapons permits,

and obviously then the criminals take over.

So

where do we go from here, Sheriff?

What should the sheriffs and the police forces around the country be doing right now to make sure they stay on the right side and

their cities and their counties are protected?

Glenn, I'm glad you...

you asked the the police are nothing but a microcosm or a reflection of the community.

When you saw these police agencies around the country that weren't appropriately responding to protect lives and to protect property, that is a reflection of the government.

That's a reflection of the decision makers.

The police officers are the enforcers.

They don't create the laws.

They just obey the laws and enforce the rules.

So when police officers are told to stand down, let them burn the building.

Police officers stand down and let them burn the building.

When police officers in other communities are told, you're not going to let them burn out our stores, then that's exactly what the police can do.

We have the resources to protect people's property and to protect their lives.

But if the leadership of a community, the mayors, the city commissioners, the governors, the state legislators, if they capitulate, if they back up

because of a use of

force or threat against them or a threat of force against them, if they tell the police to stand down, then you get what you get.

There's a horrible video back in the Baltimore riots where the police were told, do not engage these people that are tearing up and burning this store.

And there was certainly enough police officers there to do it.

So you have to not look at the police.

You have to look at the leadership and the management of the city or the community.

And how do you think the police and sheriffs are handling it so far?

I mean, between COVID, there were some really dicey things that were happening around the country with COVID.

And some sheriffs, mainly sheriffs, but some police officers, stood up against some of the draconian things that were happening in the state.

How do you think

the police are handling it?

Well, we've got a lot of challenges on our plate right now.

COVID is certainly a problem.

We've got high unemployment.

We've got folks who have an environment where they can legally wear masks all the time

and be in positions to, one, protect themselves with a mask or two, hide themselves with a mask while they rob.

So when you add to that this environment that we have here now, that is absolutely, totally shocking.

First and foremost, no

rational, reasonable police agency, police officer could ever defend the conduct of that police officer in Minneapolis.

That was totally horrific.

There's not enough words to talk about that.

I mean, there just is not adequate words.

Never has a police officer been trained in a police academy to put their knee on someone's throat.

Regardless of whether they're resisting or not, you don't kneel down on someone's throat.

So let's set that aside

for a second, because we all agree that that was horrific and wrong.

And in this community, had that police officer done that, I would have had him in jail before sundown.

But that doesn't give people a right to riot, to loot, to steal.

Yes, you want to protest.

What's the difference between a protest and a riot?

A protest

is when, and we had one Sunday where we had four or five hundred people show up to protest against the death of George Floyd.

It was healthy.

It was good.

There was old folks there.

There was young folks there.

There were children there.

And they protested that horrific event.

It was a wonderful event.

They exercised their First Amendment rights.

It was so passive, the local police department didn't even visually have law enforcement officers in the crowd.

But

let me tell you what happened.

The protesters then went home.

But from there, the anarchist, the rioters,

they marched down toward the police department with some protesters.

And after they protested at the police department, then those protesters went home and that left the anarchist.

and it left the rioters.

And that's the people that we had problems with in this community.

Well, the police department called the sheriff's office and we all mustered together and we pushed them out of the intersection after they had torn up one building and damaged one car and injured one set of people,

which, by the way, was one of the protesters that they got mad at.

But that's the difference.

Protesters are exercising First Amendment rights.

Rioters are taking advantage of the situation in order to loot, steal, hurt people, or create absolute chaos.

And

that's why it's important for police agencies to be allowed to go in and pick the dissidents out, the troublemakers out that's inciting the riot.

When you get them out, then you are left with the protesters.

Sheriff, it has been great to talk to you.

Thank you for your insight.

Thanks for the courage for standing up.

And my best to

all of your fellow officers.

And I wish you nothing but safety and health.

Thank you so much, Sheriff.

By the way,

you bet.

We should keep our policemen, first responders in our prayers.

I can't imagine what it's like to go to work, especially in a city that is hostile to cops, and you're one of the good guys.

We have two cops in Vegas in the hospital, one of them seriously injured.

We have four in St.

Louis in the hospital.

And

two cops last night were run over in Buffalo, Ohio.

How many is it going to take before America says enough is enough?

Because I can't believe any honest, decent America,

American, is with the looters at this point.