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Today, we talk today about the increasing amount of craziness on racial lines where we see a new celebrity with a blackface tape.

We have a confrontation in a park between a black man and a white woman that gets ugly.

And we have the horrible situation in Minnesota with an officer and someone who, or several officers and someone who is killed.

Really a lot of ugliness there, but we try to go through it and wade through what is true and what is not.

Also talk about the media.

They're a disaster as usual.

They are

getting frequently caught wearing masks on television and then immediately taking them off as soon as the camera shot is over.

There's a great piece from MSNBC where they just get called out by a passerby who just nails them.

We not only have their footage from MSNBC, but also the guy with his cell phone recording it, and it's really amazing.

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And for for Glenn, who's on vacation this week, a fascinating graphic released by Pew Research, Pat, looking at the COVID deaths in red and blue districts.

So for some reason, this is a thing we're doing now where we're just breaking this along political lines to try to prove points, I guess, on politics.

I don't even understand what the point of something like this would be.

But I guess the idea from their perspective is,

look, let's illustrate the fact that there's been a big decrease in Democratic districts and there hasn't been a big decrease in Republican districts.

That's the attempt here.

It says, since mid-April, COVID-19 deaths have declined in Democratic districts, but have been relatively stable in Republican districts.

And they have a helpful graph to illustrate

what has happened.

Now, anyone who would think about this for a moment would say, well, the worst stuff happened in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.

And yes, they've had a big decrease, but from a terrible peak, right?

So you would say, okay, a lot of Democratic districts there, it would make sense.

They were decreasing.

Where in a state like Texas that never had a huge flare-up,

it wouldn't make sense for them to decrease, decrease from what, right?

Like they have...

It was already low.

It was already low.

That would be you're just right off the top of your head impression of someone who said that, right?

Yes.

Well, shockingly enough, that is exactly what the graph shows.

And the graph actually illustrates that the Republican peak in deaths was two

per,

I believe it's, let's see, yeah, average.

Two per 100,000?

Yeah, I was trying to think if it's, I think it's, is it two per million or two per hundred thousand?

Two per hundred thousand?

I don't know.

The graph is not labeled exactly correctly.

But point being,

whatever ratio they're using here, two for the Republicans was the peak.

And it has decreased slightly to 1.7.

Okay.

On the Democratic side, it peaked at 7.4.

So that is almost four times as many as it ever was in a Republican district.

And it has decreased, largely because of that northeast area, down to 4.1,

but still

as the peak, more than twice as high as the peak.

Which situation would you rather have?

Would you rather have the Republican situation where you peak at 2 and fall to 1.7?

Or would you rather have the Democratic situation where you peak at 7.4 and decrease to 4.1?

Now, that is obviously, it's obvious when you look at the graph.

You'd much rather have the Republican situation and the deaths have been much, much lower.

How do you title that graph?

The summary being that there's been a decrease in Democratic districts, but stable in Republican?

Because the impression you're trying to send.

This is amazing.

What are you trying to send there?

What's the impression?

Republican governors have opened up the states and they're paying the price.

Right.

Which is obviously not the story of that graph.

The story of that graph is Democrats handled this poorly at the beginning, waited too long.

We had people like Andrew Cuomo, who, I mean, who I hate to criticize Andrew Cuomo by saying Bill de Blasio was right on something, but Cuomo was out there lighting Bill de Blasio up, saying we are never going to close New York, and then four days later closes New York.

Right?

Right.

They blew this from the beginning in the worst possible way.

We talked about the nursing home policy.

We talked about, it wasn't until mid-May where they were saying, you know what?

Big new policy announcement.

We're going to clean the subway cars.

Wow.

What a brilliant idea there, Andy.

That's a, wow.

That's a, you're, you're right on the cutting edge of fighting this virus.

After you hire to have tens of thousands dead, you think you might clean a subway car.

What a good idea.

That's a good idea, Andrew.

Oh, he is the worst.

I'm doing more on the Andrew Cuomo timeline on Stu Does America tonight because last time I did it, I think we talked about this on Friday.

I started in March, and I was going to do the entire timeline of all of his mistakes, and I could only get through the first two weeks of March.

So now I need to do the second two weeks of March, and we'll go from there.

This series could end

after the election, I think.

This could take 18 months.

It could.

This is what it could.

It could.

Listen to this, though.

Very rarely do we hear a

news network come out and make one of these accusations like they made against Georgia and Texas and Florida.

And when it doesn't go their way, and their way is a bunch of people dying.

So, think about what their way is for a second.

But when it doesn't go their way, they never revisit it, right?

They just move on.

Like, they hit Georgia, they said there's gonna be a huge outbreak, didn't happen.

Then they said, Okay, well, what about Texas?

That didn't happen.

What about Florida?

That hasn't happened.

All these things have gone on over and over again because they find the red state governors.

Now, Colorado has a Democratic governor who opened the state right around the times of these other states and has had no criticism whatsoever.

Minnesota is having a much worse time right now with COVID-19 than any of these southern states, and they don't get any criticism either because that's just the way this works.

I will give a little bit of credit to NBC News who actually revisited their Georgia predictions the other night.

Did they?

Yeah, and their tone was they actually said there was no major spike in cases, which is good.

And the fact that they did that is

something.

We have very low expectations of the media at this point.

And the fact that they would would even acknowledge that they said these things in retrospect is impressive.

However, one of the things, if you remember,

when Georgia started opening up salons and such, they said a lot of people were critical.

If you remember, famously, the Atlantic ran a headline that said, Georgia's experiment in human sacrifice.

That was their headline.

And that was the tone of the coverage all over the left, including on MSNBC, part of NBC News, who spent day after day after day after day lighting this up.

Really heavy criticism.

And they do acknowledge the criticism.

Listen to the end to hear which criticism they highlight.

Last month, Georgia was one of the first states to reopen and with the most aggressive approach, allowing barbershops, restaurants, tattoo parlors, and more to welcome customers.

The criticism came in droves.

I told the governor very simply that I disagree with his decision, but he has to do what he thinks is right.

oh,

the one piece of criticism they could find of Georgia was President Trump, yeah, right?

Because he's been this guy who's been all over

anti-opening the economy up.

They couldn't find anything from Rachel Maddow on their own network, they couldn't find anything from Chris Hayes on their own network, they couldn't find anything from NBC News, they couldn't find anything, they couldn't find that Atlantic headline, they couldn't find the dozens and dozens of headlines saying everyone was going to die in Georgia.

The only thing they could they could muster up for criticism was the one time President Trump said, I think you're opening up tattoo parlors and massage parlors a little early.

That's the only thing that when it came to, that was

the thrust of all the criticism, if you remember, Pat.

And I'm glad they brought that back up.

Unbelievable.

It really is pathetic.

Just admit it.

Like, you should, shouldn't we all be thrilled you were wrong on that?

You know, and it's not to say that they will not have a flare-up at some point.

They may.

But clearly, your impression of what reality was was incorrect here.

If you had looked at the mobility data, you would realize that almost every state in the union is coming out of lockdown at the same pace, whether the governor says so or not.

And that has to do with people realizing, you know what, we can't sit in here forever.

We need to go do these things.

Let's just be careful.

And that's happening all over the country.

And so it wouldn't be surprising to you if you understood the data that

it's not one of these things where the governor says, okay, the state's open and everyone rushes to the doors.

That's not what happens.

People aren't doing that.

The same thing was true when we went into lockdown.

People went into lockdown before the governors said they had to go into lockdown because they were trying to be careful with their own lives.

Same thing here.

They're trying to be careful with their own economy.

They're trying to get out there and be careful and go back to work.

And

none of this should be surprising to you if you followed this story at any level of depth.

You know, if you're just sitting here in this normal back and forth cable news box thing where two boxes are on one side, I think we should open it up.

I think we should close it down.

If that's your life, well, then you're not going to understand the story at all.

When you look at the data, there's no difference between, you know, a state like Georgia, as far as coming out and being more mobile and visiting retail stores and all these other things, and tons of other states.

There's not really a difference.

There are certain areas they've opened up that are different than other states.

But generally speaking, there'd be no reason to believe Georgia would have a big outbreak anyway, as opposed to another state.

But they don't care about that.

That's not their goal.

Their goal is to try to trash the president, trash Republicans, teams, teams, teams, teams, teams.

It's just unending.

Yeah.

And usually they don't even,

once they've made their prediction that all hell's going to break loose in Georgia because they're opening up way too soon.

And then when that doesn't happen, when all hell doesn't break loose, they usually don't even go back and report on that.

So they don't say anything about it.

It's kind of amazing that anything was said by the media, even though, you know, they use Trump as their proof.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People attacking them.

I'm beating that report up or that part of it, but I do actually legitimately appreciate when they do that.

And it does add to their credibility.

Yes.

You know, it really does.

You at least will listen to them.

If more of these news networks said, you know what, gosh, we really thought this was going to happen and we were totally wrong on it.

I'm not sure why.

We're going to try to figure it out and get it right next time.

That goes a long way with people.

I think people are fine with that approach.

I think so.

You know, I mean, that's what we try to do.

There's been plenty of times that we've blown stuff and you just go on and you say, look, look, this is why I thought it.

You heard my rationale.

Right.

And, you know, this is what I'll try to do next time to get better.

That's all you can do.

Yeah.

Because when it doesn't fit the agenda,

they are so good at

just not reporting it, pretending it didn't happen.

For instance, what YouTube is doing with hydroxychloroquine,

where they just censored the video where medical doctors, these are doctors,

saying hydroxychloroquine might help treat COVID-19.

So they removed that part of the video from the YouTube videos.

I mean,

wait.

Well, it definitely might.

We're in the middle of

scientists that are in the middle of dozens of studies on hydroxychloroquine right now, including a statewide study in South Dakota.

But I mean, it's not just a statewide study here.

I mean, it's all over the world.

They've been studying this.

So this was a Cheryl Atkisson at Full Measure News report.

And she was examining the possible benefits of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment and the possible financial interest some parties have in downplaying the drug and promoting a separate treatment, the remdesivir.

You notice they're not bashing that.

Yeah, that's a weird one, too, because that was remdesivir was mentioned by Trump in the same press conference as hydroxychloroquine.

Right.

I mean, you you know, this idea that Trump is out there promoting hydroxychloroquine because he's trying to be right and show that he, you know, he also called the Remdesivir thing.

And Remdesivir has shown a clinical study that has improved outcomes.

Now, there's been some studies of hydroxychloroquine that have showed mixed results, some really good, some not so great.

Right.

But, like, I,

like, Trump.

Trump's quote-unquote false hope from that press conference was not false.

I mean, Fauci came out and said the exact same thing.

It had helped some people.

It had helped some people.

We know there was an ABC News executive

who claims it cured him.

You know, there's a study in France of a very well-respected doctor who's a little bit of a renegade.

So there's questions about whether he's right or wrong on this, but he had a study that showed incredible improvement by hydroxychloroquine.

And remdesivir.

But like,

like they were trying to say this thing where Trump gets blamed for hydroxychloroquine if it doesn't work out, but gets no credit for Remdesivir, which he also mentioned in the same press conference.

If it does work out, which both Fauci and Burks have talked about the benefits of remdesivir already.

And by the way, there are some drawbacks to remdesivir as well, and they're not talking about those, but anything about hydroxychloroquine that they can say, like, people die from it.

Well, yeah, if you don't know how to administer it or you administer it wrong and not in conjunction with the right combination of drugs, then yeah, th bad things can happen.

It's certainly generally safe to take.

Yes.

You know, I mean, it's been taking People have been taking it for 70 years.

People with lupus take it every day.

People with certain types of all sorts of ailments, you know, take it.

You know, malaria is obviously the one it was initially designed for, but it's not just used for that.

Look, why wouldn't we try these things?

You go back to what Trump has said many, many times, which is,

let's look into this stuff.

I don't know.

Doctors don't know.

Let's test it.

And so they are testing it.

And we may find out that it doesn't help anybody, or maybe it only helps a very small subset of people.

Whatever it does, let's find out.

We're in the middle of a crisis here.

Let's find out.

Why would we dismiss it?

It's another one of these dumb things

that they've just made, like the Democrat team doesn't like hydroxychloroquine for some reason.

Why?

Who cares?

Because Trump mentioned it.

Because Trump mentioned it.

That's it.

Bizarre.

That's it.

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A video that's not new, but it's about 20 years old from Saturday Night Live where Jimmy Fallon dresses up in blackface for a bit has resurfaced for some reason.

It's kind of interesting that it would come up right now.

But

here's an instant where NBC apparently didn't feel the same way in 2000 as they felt in 2018

about blackface

because

Jimmy Fallon still has a job,

whereas you look at somebody like Megan Kelly, whose crime was so egregious, she actually talked about blackface.

She asked a question about being in blackface.

And the question was, if someone were to dress up

kid, I think they were talking about kids, weren't they, at the time?

It was Halloween.

And they were saying if someone were to dress up to essentially honor someone who they appreciated from Diana Ross, Diana Ross.

If you were to dress up as Diana Ross and you used blackface, would that be the same?

That was basically her question, right?

Yes.

And that question

was so horrible.

It was akin to murder.

Right.

They had to go after it.

It really was.

And get rid of her, which is amazing.

Now, we, of course, have covered how many other times this has popped up, where whether you are head of the state of Georgia or Virginia or the country of Canada

or whether you are Jimmy Kimmel with Carl Malone.

Oh, yeah.

That's totally fine.

Oh man.

Totally fine.

And again, there was no, there wasn't even, it had nothing to do with Megan Kelly's question.

Megan Kelly's question was about something much less

controversial.

Right?

Like let's say a kid who's dressing up and maybe he doesn't even understand the

lines there and dresses up as someone they appreciate or even an adult doing that, but in a complimentary way.

These were always critical or mocking the person who they were impersonating.

Carl Malone was just being shown basically as dumb.

The whole joke was like he can't talk.

Right.

Right.

That was the whole joke about Carl Malone.

Jimmy Kimmel in Blackface is saying Carl Malone can't talk.

That was

there was nothing more to it.

It wasn't, there was no larger point.

There was no, I mean, like Sarah Silverman, who is a comedian as well and super left as well, apparently lost a job because she dressed up in blackface as well.

I don't know if you're recognizing a pattern here on the people who are using the blackface situation.

But I mean, you know, Silverman, I think, has a real argument to say it's ridiculous.

She was doing a bit, essentially mocking racists.

Right?

Like, you are, yes, she's utilizing blackface.

She's using it in a way to mock people who

are racist.

That is a, should be a, if you're going to use blackface, that would be the one time you'd think you'd be able to do it now.

I don't know why you'd want to do it not something that I that I've ever entertained, but apparently everybody in Hollywood's like I can't wait.

We're not gonna find a reason to use this.

It's gonna be wonderful.

But Sarah Silverman is making a point against racism, and she's still losing jobs because of it.

Jimmy Fallon is now

his tape has come out.

He has famously done a Chris Rock impression before on Saturday Night Live.

This time he did it in a very interesting way visually.

Here it is.

Not a lot of black folks on the show.

Know why?

Because black folks don't like to answer questions.

Or they want to be millionaires, but you gotta ask that kind of question.

Like, in 1981, how many grands of crack did Rick James smoke when he recorded Super Freak?

I mean, that's a good idea.

You think the only way to get a brother on the show is to name it Pooh Wants $50 Cash and a Pair of Pumpers.

I mean, that's just, those are just jokes.

Again, that's.

Just racially oriented, stereotypical jokes.

Like, black people know a lot about crack is the joke.

Yeah.

That's, that's what the joke is there.

The black people know a lot about crack, and black people

like sneakers.

Again, like, do I think that Jimmy Fallon is a racist?

No.

Would Chris Rock actually make some of those jokes?

Maybe.

I mean, Chris Rock does a lot of that type of humor.

He's doing an impression of Chris Rock.

But the double standard is impossible to ignore here.

Impossible.

Yeah.

You know, Jimmy Fallon, there's no reason to believe he's some big racist that's doing these sorts of things.

But it is a situation where

Megan Kelly for asking a question on the same network gets fired.

And

this is is something they're actually airing not that long ago.

This is not 1975 we're going back to.

It's in the century.

Yeah.

You know, 20 years ago.

It's an amazing development, yet again.

It is.

And he's apologized for it.

He has.

Yeah.

But so did Megan Kelly and that didn't do her any good.

No.

But I'm sure all is forgiven already with Jimmy Fallon.

It's perfectly fine.

Don't worry about it.

You know, if you play by their standards, he should be fired, right?

If you're going to apply the same standard to everybody else as you applied to Megan Kelly,

then he has to go too.

And look, their standards suck, and I don't want to embrace them.

Right.

I don't either suck.

I don't either.

And I think, you know, with Megan Kelly, they utilized that moment because they didn't like her reporting that was critical of NBC for sexual harassment and other things.

I think they utilize that as a way to

target her.

So there are other things at play here.

But you're right, Pat.

I mean,

the hypocrisy is immeasurable.

And they have no, they don't care about it.

They don't care that they're being hypocritical.

Right.

Well, they don't, because nobody's going to hold them accountable.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

And we've been talking a little bit about some of the

racial issues, I would say, that are going on.

Everything from Jimmy Fallon to

an interaction in Central Park

to now

Minneapolis, which was so disturbing and horrific.

A man, police were responding to a man who was sitting on top of somebody's car, I guess.

And I think he was inside the car by the time the cops got there.

And

now, the police say that he resisted arrest.

I've heard that when they pulled him out of the car, he was resisting somewhat.

But later on, after they got him in the cuffs, he's walking with the cop down the sidewalk, not resisting at all.

Then he sort of leans back and sits down against a wall on the sidewalk.

The cop tells him to get up and he gets up, complies.

They walk back around the police vehicle, still not Still not resisting.

He's not doing anything.

Then he's down on the ground and the cop puts his knee in his neck and throat area.

He's face down on the ground with his hands behind his back, handcuffed.

And the cop has his knee on his neck for a full seven minutes.

And the guy pleads with him multiple times.

Please, I can't breathe.

Please, I can't breathe.

I hurt.

My stomach hurts.

I hurt everywhere, and I can't breathe.

And he tells him this over and over.

And so do the people surrounding.

Yeah, and the bystanders who are recording it on their phones are telling him, look, you're killing this guy.

Get off of him.

And he doesn't.

And he doesn't listen to anybody.

In fact, it looks like he kind of drives his knee deeper into the back of his neck.

And then puts his hand in his pocket.

Yeah.

As he's sitting there doing it.

None of the police officers that are with him, the other three, they've all been fired by now,

which is not sufficient.

They need to be charged with a crime here, murder or negligent homicide.

I don't know what the exact charge is, but they killed the guy.

The officer killed the man.

It was really a horrific scene.

It's incomprehensible to watch

how just, look, I am

big supporters of the police.

Big supporter.

And, you know, I, you know, when in these borderline situations, a lot of times I side with the police, honestly, because,

you know, they are in a situation where they should rationally fear for their their lives in these moments.

Often, they have families to get home to, too.

It's just not the situation, seemingly.

There's no reason for what this guy did.

I can't.

No reason.

I can't comprehend of one.

Honestly,

you try to figure out what's their argument here.

Their argument seems to be, well, they had the power.

They could do whatever they wanted.

That seems to be

the defense here, which is not a good defense.

Look, there's no reason.

There's not a moment, and the video is when he's on the ground, you get all of it, I think.

There's not a moment where they just say to the guy, look, I understand you're uncomfortable.

I am going to let some of this pressure off.

If you move a muscle, I'm doing it again.

Never an opportunity for him to just lay there and play dead, right?

They never gave him an opportunity to lay there completely and say, look, here is a, if you itch yourself, I'm going to do something.

I'm going to put my knee back here.

They never gave him even that chance.

No, there's not one moment where they have any empathy or sympathy or a moment of humanity for this man.

When he's begging and pleading that I can't breathe, you would think,

even if it's just because they're being recorded by other people, self-preservation.

Yeah, just get off him so it doesn't look like you're killing the guy.

Like, there is not a moment where the I can't breathe thing reminds you of Eric Garner, which was a big story.

Come on.

You have to be reminded of that.

And just say, like, look, you're not one of these other officers that goes up to him and says, dude, like, I don't want to be in this next freaking Aaron Gardner story.

Let's just.

Get off his neck.

Just get off his neck.

He's not doing anything.

If he moves, then do it again.

And you'd have an argument there, right?

Like, there would be a lot of people.

But let's get him off and put him in the back of the cruiser.

Exactly.

Get up, get in there.

If you do anything else, you're in major trouble.

Put the freaking stun, you know, the

taser on him.

And, you know, without pressing the electrification button, for lack of a better word,

as you know, not an officer.

But, you know, you put him and say, if you do anything, we're going to,

I'm going to jam this button down and it's going to suck for you.

So don't do it.

At least give him a chance to comply.

Nothing like that.

Nothing like that.

And that is really disturbing.

You know, sometimes there may be part of this that we haven't seen that would explain

why they were so why they handled it in a much more aggressive way than you would expect.

Right.

Like sometimes there is an interaction where where they have done something.

Maybe they, maybe he did fight back in a way that we didn't see, but none of that would, like, we have soldiers who go to war and capture al-Qaeda members and ISIS members and treat them better.

And they're going to do things like this to them.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, it doesn't matter what they've done.

Once they get to a place where they are not fighting back and they are, uh, they are, they have no ability to do anything.

You know, we celebrate here in this country the fact that we send our fighters to foreign wars where they have killed thousands of our own people and we still don't do this to them.

We have massive debates of whether we're allowed to pour water on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or not.

We don't, you can't do this.

And the fact that you would do it in a situation where you know you're on camera and you know the history, you know the context of the situation, you know how this is going to be viewed, you know people are going to see it happen, and you know the risks.

And you disregard all of it because why?

Right, why?

Again, we'll have a trial.

We don't just, we don't, you know, we're not going to assassinate this guy in the street because he did something.

He should go.

There should be due process.

He should be due process.

But he should definitely be charged, I think, with something.

With something.

And I don't know exactly what it would be.

I think

negligent homicide or some sort of high-level manslaughter sounds right to me.

It may be fall into the category where it's possible to charge them for murder.

And that might be appropriate here.

I mean, it looks that bad, certainly.

It does.

You always hold back to try to understand whatever context you're missing.

But in reality,

unless there's something...

I can't even think of what the thing would be that would justify this behavior.

On the ground, face down.

with his hands handcuffed behind his back.

What's he going to do?

There's nothing he could do.

And it's so disturbing because of how many fantastic officers that we have and how great they usually are.

Yes.

You can't.

And this plays right into the whole hysteria about the cops are just killing black people left and right.

Yeah.

Which is not the case.

Yep.

And, you know, we always say this about other groups, right?

We say this about, we were talking about ISIS moments ago.

You know, when there's a terrorist attack, it is, it's, yes, of course, we can all say how bad it is.

The most important people to say how bad this is are other Muslims if there's a Muslim terrorist attack, if ISIS is responsible.

This is why people like Zudi Jasser are so important to come out and say, yes, that behavior is completely wrong.

Those people are doing the wrong things.

But there's also a good section of our community as well, and they're great people.

Police officers need to have credibility to do that.

Now, look.

We have to also take a step back when you're talking about what's going on and what seems to be coming as far as protests and all all of this,

we have a decent amount of murders in this country more than any of us would like.

They go on often.

When they happen,

when a black person kills a white person, it is not appropriate to say all black people are responsible for that.

The person, the individual who commits the crime is the one responsible for it.

The same way, and everybody needs to remember this today, the same way that when one police officer, let's say he's guilty completely of murder, which again, it looks like it to me.

You know, I'm no legal expert.

But if he is,

we should not hold other cops responsible for that behavior, number one.

And number two, we have to recognize that these things are terrible and they happen, and we have a system to deal with them the best way that we can.

If that system reacts the way it's supposed to,

we can all be really pissed off, but that does not mean that we should, you know,

be, you know, burning down cities, right?

It's not the way that that should work.

They got fired immediately.

My guess is they get charged within a few days as they're gathering evidence.

There has to be some time for this system to play out.

But I don't think it's going to take long.

And there's plenty of evidence.

We've been informed by the police department that they all had their body cameras on.

So there's that evidence.

And the people who were filming it that were bystanders begging the police to get off of him.

and to listen to him and to ease up a little bit.

And in fact, several of them said, you're killing the guy.

And then he was motionless after a while.

And they still kept his

knee there.

Still kept his knee in his neck and throat.

At the very least, the guy had passed out at that point.

At the very least, he might have been already dead by that.

He might have been dead.

But you think of like, if you're in a situation where you're being restrained or you something like that, someone's choking you, right?

Like your body is going to do everything it can to protect against that, right?

You're going to, your chin's going to be pushed down.

You're going to tighten your neck.

It's going to give you some level of protection.

When you pass out, you stop doing that, right?

So now everything's just collapsing on top of each other.

The windpipe is closing.

Yeah.

And the fact that you're suffocated.

It's inexplicable.

Terrific.

You know, there's one thing where mistakes do happen in police work.

If you, there can be a bad incident.

It could be something where you're trying, you don't realize something innocent is happening and you react, you think it's threatening.

And, you know, people have been shot in that way, all terrible, but not this.

It develops over a long period of time.

There's nothing happening there.

It's inexplicable.

It doesn't necessarily mean, and this is, I guess, worth pointing out, it doesn't necessarily mean they were doing it because they wanted to kill a black guy.

It could just be terrible police work.

Yes.

Right?

I think it's impossible to avoid the racial parts of this clearly going to be part of the conversation on it.

It doesn't necessarily mean they left the house that day and they were like, you know what I'd like to do today is find a black person to put my knee on their throat.

But it doesn't, like, that part is separate.

It can be a part of the conversation, but separate of who the person is, it just seems to be absolutely horrific police work at the very least.

And, you know, maybe if the guy resisted at the very beginning, which I didn't see because it wasn't on this particular video,

but maybe that pissed him off to the point where, yeah, I'm just going to be on this guy's neck.

It might not have been racial.

He just might have.

Anger may have taken hold.

It doesn't excuse it at all.

No, not in the least.

But it is, it is, a lot of times that is the factor.

Like, you see this is happening where a good example of this was in the NFL, was it last year, where the guy in Pittsburgh

hit the quarterback in his head.

Oh, yeah.

I can't remember the exact two players it was.

It was the guy who hit the quarterback in the head with his helmet at the end of that game.

And

a lot of criticism for the, obviously, he's going to get suspended and all this thing.

His comeback to that was he called me the N-word.

Now, there's no evidence of that.

The NFL went through all the tapes, did not find any evidence of it.

There's no reason to believe it actually occurred.

And nobody else apparently heard it.

Right.

And nobody else heard it either, including other African-Americans who were there, did not hear it.

But the bigger part of that is, it still would not justify what he did.

Exactly.

You'd be understanding why he'd be pissed off about it.

You'd understand, yeah, he's pissed off.

He got called a racial slur,

but that does not mean you hit an unprotected head with a helmet at at full speed.

That's not okay.

Even if he did call him that.

And I think a lot of times we get locked up in a, well, well, how, why did he, what was his motivation?

Why did this guy do something wrong?

Did he commit a crime?

All of those things are immaterial

to what the action was at the end there.

When the guy is, even if you want to take the parts where he's awake and dismiss them, the guy clearly, at some point, passes out and he still keeps

his knee on his neck.

I'm sorry.

You just, I can't find any justification.

I can't find anything other than this seems to be a case where whatever the legal maximum is, is where it should land.

Yeah.

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