The COVID-19 Playbook | Guests: Gov. Greg Abbott & Matt Ridley | 4/22/20 | The Glenn Beck Program

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I want to play

something that should tell you everything

that you need to know.

And I want you to listen to this

with this framing in mind.

Omar Khayyam, he was a poet, a mathematician, astronomer, philosopher.

He was a great thinker in Persia.

And he's the guy who said, let us remold the world closer to our heart's desire.

Now, if you've ever heard that before, most likely you heard it or read it on the famous Fabian Socialist stained glass window.

Most people don't even know anything about it.

I think this audience does.

That is the phrase

that the Fabian Socialists used

to get us into World War I.

World War I

was...

planned.

They knew how many people it would kill.

They knew what would happen.

But the

European continent, they felt, needed to change.

They needed to get rid of all of the old systems because they were all broken down.

And great debates in the Fabian society about is it worth the life?

Of course it is.

The ends always justify the means.

Well, that brought us into World War I and World War I brought us World War II.

And now the same people,

I believe, are taking advantage of this global pandemic.

But I want you to decide that.

Who drafted the response for what is going on in today's world?

Remember, this has never been done before.

Nobody's ever tried to shut the entire world down.

And we have people that are saying we can't go back to work.

The WHO now is saying that we shouldn't go back to work for the next 18 months.

Are you kidding me?

There won't be anything left.

But is that

comforting to some people?

Because this crisis is a way to remold the world.

This crisis, we keep saying we would just want to go back to normal.

We're never going to go back to normal.

The world as we knew it before this

is over.

People are redesigning everything.

For instance, right now we're bailing out all of the universities.

Why?

Why aren't we taking advantage of this?

The university system is broken.

We've all known it.

They were living on the edge in the first place.

They were charging too much and they're indoctrination camps.

Why are we saving the universities?

They've got billions of dollars, most of them, in their trust funds.

Let them figure it out.

Or is that remolding the world closer to our heart's desire?

A lot of people in this audience would say, good, yeah, that's a good idea.

Well, you don't think the socialists are doing the same thing?

Who drafted this agenda and what do they believe?

I'm going to show you on tape how a group of global elites prepared for a future coronavirus pandemic.

And they did it in November of last year.

These people have been meeting for years.

Bill Gates, George Soros have been funding this meeting for years.

And they have been doing global

wargaming on global warming.

But this year, they decided to add pandemic to it.

If there was a pandemic

and global warming,

What should we do?

And how can we remold the world?

Now this happened months before China reported its first case.

And I want to make it really clear, they didn't start it.

The pandemic is real.

They didn't predict it.

All they did was prepare for what we all knew was coming.

George W.

Bush prepared our country.

He believed the pandemic was coming.

Barack Obama didn't.

And all of the preparations that George W.

Bush put into place for a global pandemic stopped and went away.

Did George W.

Bush plan this?

No.

We were due for a global pandemic.

And so what they did is they got around and they planned for when it eventually and inevitably hit, someone would have a plan.

Now, when you look at the plan, it's eerie how similar their plans are to the ones our our central planners are using.

I think there's a

reason for that.

Head of our CDC was there.

The head of all the banks were there.

These were the big

global

personalities.

So who was at the table?

Tonight I'm going to show you the actual video of a three-day war game.

Who is at the table?

What were the plans?

Why did they choose those plans?

What are their goals?

Are they your goals?

Is this really about safety?

Or is it about

big government, high-tech banking control?

What is it?

You're going to have to decide tonight.

I'm going to ask the questions the media and big tech and big business just don't want anyone to ask, but I'll ask them.

But I want you to know.

If you are not, this is why I've been saying for the last few days or last few weeks, we have got to have a lifeline to one another.

We cannot have anybody standing in between us.

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Let me play from the actual event 201.

This is the audio and video of the event where they are talking about

Who do we say is the ultimate authority in this situation?

Now remember, this is before the pandemic.

Who do we say is the ultimate authority?

And they talk about how there's going to be all kinds of conspiracies, so we've got to all stick together.

Who is the ultimate authority?

Listen.

But also, I agree on the point on having a centralized source of information and a world body that could have garnered the respect of everyone.

And I think the WHO in this instance might be that.

So there they are deciding that it's going to be the WHO.

Now,

we have already had Facebook demonetize us and throttle our relationship with you.

You probably, if you get your information from Facebook on me, what I'm saying, the shows, you're probably getting very little of what I do because they are throttling us back, severely stepping on our throat.

The same with Google and YouTube.

Here's YouTube, the head of YouTube, yesterday

verifying basically what they decided at event 201.

Listen.

Talk about that as raising authoritative information.

But then we also talk about removing information that is problematic.

Of course, anything that is medically unsubstantiated, so people saying, like, take vitamin C,

you know,

take turmeric, like those all will cure you.

Those are the examples of things that would be a violation of our palsy.

Anything that would go against World Health Organization recommendations would be a violation of our policy.

And so, remove is another really important part of our policy.

So, they're removing anything that goes against the WHO.

We've already seen this happen.

In about an hour and 10 minutes, I'm going to give you some information that no one else has given you on the WHO and why they are so incredibly dangerous.

But these are the ones that are accepted now.

So if the WHO says it, it must be so.

Well, the WHO, the head of the WHO, is saying that we really should be in for the next 18 months, that we're not going to go back to normal for a very long time.

Meanwhile,

We passed another stimulus package last night, and Chuck Schumer said, don't worry, that's not the last one.

There's a lot more coming from where that came from.

Why?

We're printing money.

Money has no meaning.

The problem is not a shortage of money alone.

Yes, we're having a hard time paying the rent or getting food.

But you know what solves that?

Commerce.

Commerce solves that.

There's no place to stimulate the economy because we can't go anywhere.

But the economy and everything else is being redesigned right now.

Tonight at 9 o'clock, you need to think for yourself.

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When you have disinformation, It's Satan's greatest trick.

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Okay, the operative word that we're going to have to use

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You know, I'm just looking behind me.

I did a poster of Winston Churchill.

I painted a poster of Winston Churchill in a mask and it says keep calm and carry on behind him.

And that is so right.

It is so right.

Keep calm and carry on.

But

he represents the courage to do the tough things.

And you're going to have to have the courage to say the tough things and to think

not like sheep.

You have to think for yourself.

Three out of four people know now that their personal liberties are being lost.

Three Three out of four Americans believe that they are losing personal liberties and they fear that they're not coming back.

Well, you're right to fear that.

Now what are we going to do about it?

Well, the first thing we have to do is stop listening to people.

80% of Americans think that what Donald Trump did before he did it is right.

80% of Americans say, we've got to stop immigration.

We've got to secure our borders right now.

Now, Now, I don't know if that's just because of jobs or because people see the absolute nightmare situation that is coming on our southern border.

When people start to really get sick and Mexico goes through the roof, they're all going to run here.

We've got to be prepared on our border.

But what are the Democrats saying?

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Why?

Why are they doing that?

Why do people call other people racist?

Well, they do it for a couple of reasons.

One, because actually they may be racist.

But in today's world, no, that's usually not why somebody is called a racist.

It's a label to

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It's all Sololinsky stuff.

So when they call him the xenophobe in chief, they're just reinforcing this for their rubes.

What What he did in China

by restricting air travel was xenophobic.

Well, I guess it was xenophobic when he did it to Europe too.

But it was right.

It wasn't xenophobic.

It was right.

People are name-calling and two British men have been arrested in Great Britain for posting signs that say, pubs closed, borders open.

They were arrested.

Thank God for our freedom of speech that we have currently.

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It looks like sales on houses are going to be severely restricted.

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There is a couple of really, I think, good news, but I want to talk to Stu about it.

Also, our guest, Matt Ridley, coming up in about a half an hour.

He is, he's made his money on being a skeptic.

In fact, he's one of Stu's favorite people because he questions absolutely everything.

And I remember the morning when Stu came in and said, I think this is real, this, we should be concerned about this.

And I said, why?

And he said, because Matt Ridley just said,

I question everything.

I don't think any of this stuff is real.

Coronavirus is real.

But there's some good news.

We're going to talk to him about the 55,

55, is it million?

Stu?

55 million people what was it out of California or 55 times bigger

more people yeah 55 times more people were infected in LA County than previously thought that's really really good news and we'll tell you why coming up in in just a second right now I want to talk to Todd Staples Todd Staples is the president of the Texas oil and gas association he has also been appointed by our governor on the strike force to open Texas up.

And so we wanted to talk to him a little bit about oil, what that means for everybody around the country, what it means to America strategically, and what we should do, and

what should states be doing, and what are the metrics they're using so we know when we're going to open up a little bit more.

Welcome to the program, Todd.

How are you?

I'm great, Glenn.

Glad to be back on your show, and thanks for what you do for our country.

Yeah, thank you very much.

All right, so let's start with oil and gas.

For the first time, America is energy independent.

We are exporting more than we import, which is fantastic news.

However, with that being said, now our oil industry is on the verge of collapse, we're told.

What do we do?

What should we be doing?

Well, producers are doing exactly what they need to be doing.

The market is

reacting appropriately to these catastrophic circumstances.

Producers are limiting production.

They are looking at the markets and making certain that they are the ones that are making the decisions for their operations.

And quite frankly, we don't need government to step in and develop a North American OPEC.

That's not the answer because producers can respond appropriately.

Okay, so you don't think Texas should tell the Texas oil producers, throttle back?

That's right.

I'm saying they're already doing it.

They are.

Our companies have already announced over $50 billion

in capital expenditure reductions that were planned for 2020, that because of the dynamic shock that we've had to demand, because of stopping global commerce.

And look, we know in Texas that if it costs you $8 a pound to make barbecue and you sell it for $4 a pound, you don't need government to tell you to stop making barbecue.

You can kind of figure that out yourself.

And that's what our producers are doing.

And we believe, Glenn, that is the most and best way to restore our economy, to get oil and gas back moving again and employing thousands and thousands of Texans is to allow operators to look at their assets, look at their contractual obligations, and to make those decisions.

Now, it's not to say that

these are horrific circumstances.

When you have all that trades for negative values, like we saw a couple of days ago, that's scary stuff, right?

But you don't need to react.

You need to respond appropriately.

And that's what our producers are doing to get through this extremely difficult time.

Okay.

Is it true that Russia was targeting our oil and gas industry

and trying to collapse us?

Well, so let's talk about the global picture for a minute.

That's a great question.

A lot of people believe that Russia and

the foreign powers overproduction was an attempt to gain back market share that U.S.

energy producers have captured.

I mean, look, because of innovation and technology, the U.S.

has been the powerhouse.

As you mentioned, we are at a new level of national security because of energy security.

And it is contemplated that foreign global producers wanted to regain some of that market share.

And so they planned to,

because the Saudis and Russians gotten a TIFF, they were fighting amongst one another.

And it would certainly, their actions would negatively impact U.S.

producers.

They didn't plan on COVID-19.

It is

accurate, however, to say that the last time we had trouble in America, we

retooled, we reinvented,

we reinvented the way we drill and the way we pull oil from the ground.

So the last time

we had trouble, we reinvented while they just bailed themselves out because they're government-owned.

And is that what you're trying to avoid here, Todd?

Lynn, that's exactly right.

In the 1980s, those of us that lived through that, we remember the job losses, the drastic loss of value.

We didn't go to the government and say bail us out.

We hunkered down.

We reinvented.

And then 2008 that occurred again in 2014, 2015 time period, 70% drop in prices.

And because of innovation, hydraulic fracturing,

Texas and America is the incubator for ideas because of our free enterprise system.

And our philosophy is don't abandon that now in a time of crisis.

Let's go stronger through this, as difficult as it's going to be.

So the federal government has been saying now they've got another stimulus package, and the Democrats said last night, this is just the beginning.

There's a lot more where that came from.

I don't know where they're getting it.

The covered seems to be a little bare, but

there is a problem with people paying their rent and getting food, et cetera, et cetera, and businesses staying afloat.

But the real problem is not a shortage of money.

It's a shortage of commerce.

So you're on the task force to open the country back up or to open Texas back up.

What are the metrics that you're looking at that will keep us safe, but also get us back to work?

Well, we appreciate Governor Abbott's leadership and focus on getting this economy moving again.

You're exactly right.

When you normally use 100 million barrels a day in the world and that drops to 80 million barrels a day,

there's nothing that can fix that except getting the economy going back again.

And so what the oil and and natural gas industry is doing is looking at operational procedures that we need flexibility on in order to manage through the crisis and to restart our sector of the economy.

Things like permits, getting extensions from the regulatory agency.

We want to be very careful that we do not compromise safety.

We don't want to compromise environmental standards.

Our industry spends more than any other industry or the government combined on innovative procedures.

And so we're looking at things that can be done to help managers manage their assets the way they know to by looking at flexibility in government

permits and regulatory programs so that we can get through this this system and get back to going as quickly as we can.

We also know that critical infrastructure, many of our field operations have been exempted, but the back office efforts, the planning and the strategy and the promotion, they have been curtailed.

We need to get them back to work, maintain social distancing, use good

protocols in terms of

making certain masks and gloves and all these kinds of things.

But those are the types of things that we'll be recommending to the governor.

And I think he's got another press conference for Monday, and we're hopeful that we'll have some more leniency pretty soon.

Yeah, he's going to be on with us in about an hour and 15 minutes.

So we'll talk to him a little bit more about that.

The one thing that I'm concerned with the oil industry is

these are the kinds of times that

nations go to war in.

I'm not predicting one.

I don't want one.

I think it could be the worst thing that could ever happen to us if we go to a global war.

However,

when people are backed into a corner, this is what happens.

And

I am very concerned that our oil industry

is not damaged long term, that we would be able to be energy independent.

Is there any concern?

I mean, one of the oil CEOs just said we're going to disappear like the coal industry.

I think that concern is valid.

I think ensuring that we have a domestic energy supply so that we can have energy independence is vital.

But let's look at the facts here.

The infrastructure that we have in the state of Texas alone, our pipelines, our ports, our refiners, our LNG export facility that's moving clean natural gas all around the world to improve air quality

is right here in Texas.

We know that our refining capacity, the ability to move product through our pipelines, the ability to access markets around the globe, our ports, our infrastructure is here.

Now,

is it a very valid concern about the future of this industry?

You bet it is.

And we know that uncertainty is

the enemy of recovery.

And so we need stable policies.

We need tax policy that is not punitive.

We need science-based regulatory approaches.

And we need to not react in a way to get government to put its tentacles further into this industry by mandating the level of production because the market can react much quicker.

than a government body can.

And let's think about it, Glenn.

How likely is it that Texas can coordinate with North Dakota and Oklahoma?

And can we get all producing states?

No.

And so will all producing states have the same regulatory schemes that Texas would have?

That would be very difficult, and it would be more difficult to enforce and ensure compliance.

And so we think making certain the fundamentals are there where we can grow and to make sure, look, we know that monetary policy is important, right?

We know access to capital.

We need to make certain our federal government is focused on those things.

And look, they need to be very cautious in dealing with their trading partners to make certain they're not flooding the markets.

And those are things that will all make a difference, we think.

Okay, I'm up against the network break, so I just need a quick answer on this one.

But Tuesday

they are going to ⁇ the Texas Railway Commission is going to delay their decision on what's called pro-ration, which is what you're talking about.

Do you think we're past that, government stepping in and saying we need everybody to work together

and start to fall in line with the government?

I'm afraid there is incredible pressure from some on the commission for the commission to take action.

We firmly believe proration would make matters worse, not better.

And our message is we need to focus on recovery, not on creating a cartel.

So the pressure is not over and the decisions haven't been made yet.

There's three commissioners and

we appreciate the fact that they have not unnecessarily intervened and we just need to get them focused on recovery.

So we're not out of the woods even in the Lone Star State here on the day after we celebrated the Battle of San Jacinto where we won our independence.

We're thinking about becoming dependent again and that's the wrong move in our opinion.

Todd, thank you very much.

I really appreciate your free market attitude and your aversion to government, state, local, federal, or whatever, getting involved in making free market decisions.

Keep it up.

If there's anything we could do to help you, you just let us know.

Glenn, you're the best.

Thanks a bunch for letting me be on.

You bet.

You bet.

Todd Staples, we're going to talk to the governor of Texas here in a little while.

We also have a really, really great guest, one of Stu's, I think, kind of heroes,

if I'm not overstating here, Stu, Matt Ridley, a really deep thinker from Great Britain, who is somebody who

is a question.

He questions authority all the time.

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But who drafted the agenda for our response?

Glenn reveals how a group of global elites prepared for a future coronavirus pandemic just months before China reported its first case.

Glenn asked the questions the media and big tech don't want you to hear.

Event 201.

The coronavirus war game.

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we have Matt Ridley.

He's from England.

He is a guy who is debunked so much.

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any private industry to make tests.

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CDC wanted it all.

Well, we finally opened it up for everybody else and now it looks like we've got enough tests.

Great Britain won't do it.

We want to talk a little bit about the things that are true and not true, the things about the socialized medicines and also the free market, which we don't really have here, but we're closer to a free market.

With a guy who is known to question everything,

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Stu raves about this guy all the time.

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When Stu came in and said, Matt Ridley, he just said we should be concerned about coronavirus

because he never is concerned about these things.

His job is to debunk them.

We talk to him in one minute.

This is the Glenbeck program.

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His latest is How Innovation Works.

It comes out on May 19th.

We hope to have him back on to talk about that book a little later on.

He can be found at rationaloptimist.com.

Matt, welcome to the program.

Glit, great to have you.

Glenn, great to be on your show.

Yeah, thank you very much.

All right, can we just start with, first of all, how are you feeling about the coronavirus now?

I mean, you came out in, I think in March and said, I think this could be real.

How are you feeling about the predictions of it and where we're headed?

Well,

I still think it's pretty scary.

I still think we've got a long way to go.

It's going to kill a lot of people.

But I think we are likely to crack this problem, to solve it, to find a way out of it, whether it's a vaccine or a cure.

At the moment, I think the therapies, the cures are looking more promising than the vaccines in short order.

And even if it's just an app that tells you on your phone when you've come close to somebody you had it, plus a lot of testing so that we can really do the contact tracing, then I think we can gradually solve the problem.

We may have to live slightly differently for a few months.

But I'm optimistic that we will get through this without a huge death toll.

But it's already quite a big death toll, and it is a terrible blow the world economy.

So how do you feel we have balanced the death toll and the world economy?

I mean,

there is a tipping point that

you start to do damage that just is going to cause even more death in the long run if you don't have some commerce going on.

Where do you think that

what's the line that you would be looking for, the tripwire, to be able to open things back up?

Well, I

you know, if you

strangle somebody and then you take your hands off their throat,

they're fine as long as it's only been 30 seconds.

If it's been three minutes, then they're not fine.

And

somewhere in the region of three weeks of lockdown is okay, but six weeks may not be, or

12 weeks may not be.

I worry that we're getting close to the point where we've got to find a way out of this lockdown.

Otherwise a lot of businesses are going to go bust, a lot of people will have lost their jobs, a lot of the economy will never come back unless we do that in the next few weeks.

So in this country we're locked down for another three weeks from a few days ago, so two and a half weeks from now.

But we haven't got a plan for how to ease the lockdown.

It can't be all at once.

We realize that.

We can't have football games and boxing matches with 10,000 people watching, you know, and all that.

But if you get schools back, you get some small businesses back, you get shops working again, you have people doing sensible things,

you've got the summer sunshine, which is going to help a little bit coming along, etc.,

then I'm pretty sure that we can rescue a good chunk of the economy and see us bounce back.

But we've got to do it pretty soon.

I think we've passed the point where we're doing more harm with the lockdown than the virus is doing.

And that's partly, of course, because we've got on top of the virus.

We have slowed rate of surface.

So

what looks like

disaster is in a way success, if you see what I mean.

Yes, I do.

So are you concerned about a rebound?

Here in America,

everybody's talking about,

there really seems to be only two camps, the way the media is portraying it, but it's not true.

But it's the, I don't care if anyone dies, I want money.

or I want to keep the economy closed for 18 months for everybody's safety.

But that's not realistic.

Either of those are realistic.

But we're being told by those who want to keep us in lockdown that

there could be a real bad rebound if we open up too fast.

And I think that's reasonable.

But how do we know what too fast is?

And are you concerned about a rebound?

Yeah, I think that...

What we, yeah, no, I mean, I think you're right.

A rebound is possible if we open up too fast.

On the other hand, we can't keep the lockdown going so long that we don't risk a rebound at all because during the lockdown, we're not creating herd immunity.

You know, we're not getting enough people exposed to the virus for it to be able to slow down the spread.

So

the end of the lockdown has to come with the help of technology, particularly diagnostic testing and tracing, but also better treatment.

And I think, you know, if we can just get it so that people are not going to die when they go to hospital because we worked out how to cure them, then I think we can, as it were, take the pain of people catching it, not at a high rate, but with a moderate rate allowed by contact tracing and social distancing and all those sort of things.

So I think that's the way to think about it:

a slow easing of the lockdown so that the rebound is copable with, so that the health services can cope with the rebound when it comes.

We're talking to Matt Ridley, author of How Innovation Works.

He's from London, thus the the

delay in our conversation.

I do, let me change the subject just for one quick question here.

Why is it that

in the UK,

you would put the word the

before car,

like, hey, get into the car, but you don't use the word the before the word hospital.

I don't get it.

I want to know.

I just noticed that.

Yeah, you always say, let's go to the hospital, and we always say, say, let's go to hospital.

Yeah.

Don't we?

Right.

It's weird.

I don't know why.

It's weird.

Let's go to the restaurant.

If we're going to start to accuse each other of mishandling the English language, I'm sure.

Okay, well,

yeah, all right, all right.

We'll move on.

All right.

Let me take you to something that I find also perplexing.

Let me take you to something I also find more perplexing than the absence of the word the before hospital.

And that is,

I've been watching the BBC and I've been seeing the private industry screaming, please let us help with testing.

And you, for some reason, will not allow

the private sector to help.

This is what

Germany did it the right way.

We didn't even do it the right way.

We got bogged down in our governmental CDC as well.

And that's why we screwed up the testing.

Germany immediately went to the private sector because they learned lessons from the past.

Why is it that England just will not allow the public sector to get involved in this?

Well, this is a really interesting point.

And you're absolutely right.

The Germans have a decentralized health system with twenty-eight different health authorities, each of which is going out there and finding whoever can provide it with testing.

They don't have their own labs.

They don't try and do it in-house.

And as a result, they got off to a flying start by getting the private sector involved.

The US was slow to do that, and the CDC tried to hold on to a monopoly on the testing.

And it quickly did a U-turn and realized that wasn't going to work.

The UK was even slower.

It is now changing.

We are now getting the private sector involved, it, but it's been a shockingly slow process.

And the excuse given by the authorities is that they wanted quality control.

They didn't want tests that didn't work being used by people, so they didn't want to order them from people who they couldn't trust.

But the real reason is

dislike of the private sector.

And I wrote about this two years ago.

I wrote about the hostility of the national health system to ordering private sector diagnostic diagnostic tests in a different context.

But

it's basically saying we don't trust you because you're a for-profit institution and we're not.

And that's a shocking way of going on because they buy food and

they don't expect that to be grown on a state farm.

So

there's no reason not to go out to the private sector.

And as a result, the UK, in the middle of March, abandoned testing people with symptoms.

Even people who were getting sick were told, don't go and get tested, stay at home.

We were only able to test the people who were so sick they got into hospitals.

And we promised again and again that we would be doing 100,000 tests a day and 100,000 tests a week or whatever it was.

And we kept missing these targets.

And it's still happening.

And I've been talking to some of the testing companies, and they have horror stories about the procurement process, about the bureaucratic nature of it.

So I feel very concerned about this.

I think we've mishandled it, that aspect of it.

And we're about to do it again

because with respect to personal protective equipment, PPE,

we are being told that no, the public should not use face masks.

And that is now in defiance of the World Health Organization advice, as well as most other countries.

And the cat was let out of the bag yesterday when it emerged that the reason for this advice was because they were worried that if the public bought face masks, there wouldn't be enough face masks for the doctors and nurses.

They did this to us here in America.

They did this to us in America, and

it was astonishing.

And as soon as we had enough face masks for the hospitals, that for the hospitals,

we immediately turned around and all the press said, oh, you know what?

They do work for the general public.

We knew it in the beginning that they were lying to us.

It's astounding that you're going through this now.

I agree.

And, And

this is one of the things that we have to revisit at the end of this because, I mean, of course, it's not perfect to put something over your face, but it's bound to be better than

coughing out droplets of virus.

So,

the last thing I want to talk to you about, Matt, and we really appreciate having you on.

We're big fans.

You have to say hello to Stu because he just reads everything that you write.

So, say hi, Stu.

Hello, Matt.

Hi, Matt.

Great to talk to you.

And I will say, I'm very excited for the new book.

And The Rational Optimist, I consider it a foundational book in the way I think about the world.

It's an incredible book, and it's something that if you haven't read, you should go out and get right away.

Thank you.

Go ahead.

I was just going to say, right at the end of that book, I say, look, it's going to be a great century.

Everything's going to go fine.

But of course, I could be wrong.

There could be global flu pandemics, I said.

Yep.

I would love to talk to you further, if you have time,

you know, on another day about

what the world is going to look like and how we're, I mean,

I know that, you know, the famous Fabian socialist window,

mold the world closer to your heart's desire.

This is the kind of thing where people are molding the world

and we don't seem to be thinking that way.

We just all want to go back to normal.

No, wait, there's some things that maybe this provides opportunity on.

For instance, getting rid of a lot of regulation to get us back up on our feet faster.

But I'd like to talk to you about that later.

I want to ask you this, one last question.

We could not get how Boris Johnson was treated no matter how many people we called, no matter what we did, no one in the press in the UK, nobody in the press here was allowed to see.

And my theory is because private doctors were probably called and involved.

Do you find that to be reasonable or

not?

I don't think so.

I think

it's just

perhaps surprising cultural difference that he's not our head of state, he's just head of government.

Um and uh

in in that sense, he's not so quite so much public property for the media when it comes to personal life.

We have, I think, in the media in the UK just held the line on medical issues.

So, I mean, I remember I was a reporter in Washington in the 1980s, and um I remember, you know, these press conferences about the insides of Ronald Reagan's intestines,

which was quite surprising to me at the time.

So I think

it's, as it were,

by the media rather than some sinister reason why they don't want to tell us because it's a story that would embarrass the National Health Service.

But I might be wrong about that.

I personally don't know anything.

I mean, I know Boris.

He's an old friend, but I've not, of course, spoken to him during this.

And

he was extremely ill.

We know that.

And it was a very, very worrying time for those of us who greatly admire him and

for everybody else, too, because he is the leader of our government and our country.

And we are a bit leaderless at the moment.

We are waiting for him to get better enough to be able to particularly lead us into the exit from lockdown.

So we need him better quickly.

We were told that he was not put on a ventilator, that he didn't get that bad.

But we now know from other reports that ventilators seem to be not helping.

Indeed, they might even be making things worse for some patients.

So perhaps he was not put on a ventilator because they realized that it might make it worse.

Matt, thank you so much.

The author of How Innovation Works, you can find him at mattridley.com or therationaloptimist.com.

Look for his blog and his latest book coming out next month.

Thank you so much, Matt Ridley.

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Welcome to the program.

What I'm about to tell you is going to be banned most likely on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube and every place else because it goes against the WHO.

But three weeks ago, I called for a full audit of the WHO.

At this point, you know about their assisted cover-up with the overlords of the Chinese Communist Party to try to hide the fact that China is directly responsible for the coronavirus pandemic.

President Trump has rightly halted all U.S.

funding to the WHO until we can find out what the heck is going on over there, who's involved, how deep is this.

I don't see the media asking any questions of any kind of substance.

After Trump cut funding, the head of the WHO accused the president of politicizing the coronavirus.

But the media, as usual, refuses to look into the political relationship between the head director, Tedros, of the WHO, and the Chinese Communist Party.

Now, let me give you a quick recap of what we were able to find just a few weeks ago.

All of it I revealed on Blaze TV.

If you're a subscriber, it can still be found on demand.

It's really important.

Tedros is the first WHO director to not have a medical degree.

He's actually an Ethiopian politician.

Now, I could be nice and start with he was the Ethiopian Minister of Health, but that's not not where he was lately.

And I'm going to get back to his posting as the minister of health here in a second.

But his last job was with the Ethiopian government.

He was their Minister of Foreign Affairs.

He was basically their Mike Pompeo.

He was also the chairperson of the Executive Council of the African Union.

It is widely reported now that China has an intense connection with the past couple of decades with Africa, very specifically in Ethiopia, which has been dubbed China's dream in Africa.

So, exactly one month, one year ago this month, Ethiopia hosted its second Belt and Road Summit.

Now, Belt and Road is China's strategy to dominate all international trade.

Apple and Samsung used to be the most popular phone companies in Ethiopia until China moved in.

Now, it's the Chinese phone maker, Techno.

The Chinese presence in Ethiopia is staggering, and we went through it on Blaze TV.

The Chinese construction companies are building structures all over the country.

They fully funded a $47 million rail system and over 30,000 miles of roads.

They proved 70% of the funds for another railroad that links Ethiopia to neighboring countries

at a cost of $3.4 billion.

The Chinese investment in Ethiopia is growing at a rate of 52% a year, still growing.

That's a high price tag.

How is Ethiopia ever going to pay that back?

Well, the answer is they can't in cash.

Since the year 2000, Ethiopia owes China over $12 billion.

That's half of their entire external debt owed to the Chinese Communist Party.

They have no way of ever repaying it, at least not with cash.

No one in the media will ask these questions.

And making even more ridiculous this whole situation is the fact that China has a track record for buying influence in international organizations within the UN.

An official within the White House recently told Radio Free Asia that China's foreign investment in places like Ethiopia and Africa is part of a plan to, quote, reshape the international system to accommodate its political and economic interests.

They go on, quote, in service of this strategy, China has consistently sought to trade financial incentives for votes, offering bribes and canceling debt for countries that support them.

Now, the Washington Post recently reported that China forgave Cameroon's debt just one month before they withdrew their country's candidate to head the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization.

China also threatened to cut off exports from multiple countries in South America if they didn't back their candidate to head the FAO.

Guess who now sits at the head of that UN organization?

Yes, the distinguished gentleman from China.

So why is it suddenly out of bounds to notice the same mafia-style tactics from China directed at the WHO?

In 2017, the WHO director shocked the world when he announced that he was naming President Mugabe of Zimbabwe a WHO Goodwill Ambassador.

Mugabe,

you know, as in the ruthless human rights-abusing, land-grabbing, hyper-inflation-inducing dictator.

Oh, and you can also tact Marxist, Leninist, and Maoist to that impressive resume.

So why the heck did the WHO, more importantly, their director, think this was even a remotely good idea?

Well, it all makes sense.

If you see that China loved themselves some Mugabe, he was helping China move into Africa.

They had strong ideological ties, Marx, Mao, Lenin.

the current president, Xi Jinping, and Mugabe.

All of them together.

That's one heck of a party.

The Washington Post reported that the WHO director's decision to honor Mugabe

was speculated as, quote, a payoff to China, which worked tirelessly behind the scenes to help Tedros defeat the United Kingdom's candidate for the WHO job, David Nabarro.

Tedros' victory was also a victory for Beijing, whose leader, Xi Jinping, has made public his goal of flexing China's muscle around the world.

Really?

This is the guy that everyone in the world, including our media, is claiming is acting in good faith when he covers up for China over the coronavirus.

Not only did China have a deep ideological link with Mugabe in Zimbabwe, they also have a deep ideological link to the WHO director himself.

Again, you won't get this information anywhere.

What do I mean by that?

Well, the government that he used to serve in Ethiopia are Marxist-Leninists.

In fact, he wasn't just part of it.

He's a member of and served both as health minister and foreign minister in the Ethiopian Tigray People's Liberation Front.

Oh, I love them.

Liberation Fronts.

It's a radical socialist movement that was so violent that they were officially designated a terror group.

Some of their highlights include forced

displacements and land seizures, torture, which include, and I'd like to quote here, prisoners were raped, tied to trees, held with animals, had water bottles hung from their genitals and their fingernails pulled out, and a slew of other human rights abuses.

But that's what you get from Marxist revolutionaries.

I know what you shouldn't expect.

You shouldn't expect one of their members to become the director of the WHO.

But what do you know?

China saw a friend in both Tedros and his Marxist government buddies.

They probably saw talent they could use when Tedros was allegedly caught covering up epidemics when he was the Minister of Health.

I told you I would get back to that.

Outbreaks of cholera were instead classified under him as, quote, acute watery diarrhea.

Despite the fact that outside outside experts tested stool samples and lo and behold, it was cholera, he said it wasn't.

The Washington Post reported back in 2016 that certain European officials were lobbying hard to keep the words cholera and Ethiopia out of any conversation.

Ah, sure.

Well, this kind of talent could be used by China.

He appeared to have experience covering up epidemics.

And he's not only a member of

Cover-Up, he also is a Marxist who is tied into a Marxist, Leninist, terrorist political party.

Wow.

He was actually one of the nine executive members of the Politburo, so he knows how China works.

As Ethiopia's foreign minister, he helped China move into his country.

In fact, let me quote a Facebook post from him.

This is something that he posted in 2015.

Under the Go Global Program of JANA, we expect increased Chinese investment flow to Ethiopia.

The eight industrial parks identified throughout Ethiopia, some already under construction, will facilitate the migration of Chinese companies to Ethiopia.

He even wrote an op-ed with his Chinese counterpart, one from 2014, entitled A Role Model for Bilateral Ties.

This particular article was published in the Chinese Daily, a publication that is owned in its entirety by the Chinese Communist Party.

More specifically, the Publicity Department, otherwise known as the propaganda arm of the Communist Party.

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The head of the WHO, who comes from a radical Marxist political party that was dubbed a terrorist organization, who covered up

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Now he's been caught repeating doing exactly the same thing with coronavirus.

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The facts are clear.

The WHO director is in with Communist China.

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Tonight,

we are going to tell you about where a lot of these plans that are happening right now all around the world, where they came from.

And it's something called Event 201.

That monologue, that information that I just gave you was actually on the edit room floor.

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all of this was planned, I think it was back November or October, I think it might be October.

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It just happens to coincide with this pandemic.

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It's none of that.

Unfortunately, that's what it will turn into by some people, but that's not what it is.

These are people who just saw a problem and decided that they would get their people together and say, okay, what can we do?

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Well, that's what's happening right now.

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We have Governor Greg Abbott from the great state of Texas on with us.

He is the 48th governor of Texas and my favorite governor that I have ever, I've lived all over the country.

I think this is this guy is the best I've ever seen, a native Texan and the first guy to try to open up a state.

Governor Abbott, how are you, sir?

Doing terrific.

We are excited about getting Texas open back up, but open in a safe way so that we will continue to protect the safety of everybody and reduce the spread of COVID-19.

But we know that we can open up so many businesses in the state of Texas and get people back to working.

We can protect both lives and livelihoods at the very same time.

So, Governor, I know you have to say those things, but not to this audience, because

I hate this argument that's going on right now that if you want to open things up, you just want everybody to die because you love money.

No, there is a balance.

There is a balance.

We can't kill the, you know, it's like chemotherapy.

Us staying at home is chemotherapy.

We want it to kill the cancer, but we can't give too much of it or kill the whole body.

So what are the tripwires that you are looking at that will allow us to open up more and more?

One of the tripwires is making sure that we continue to have a downward trend in the number of people who test positive for COVID-19.

We hit our high water mark about 13 days ago on April the 9th.

I haven't done the math, but that's about 12, 13 days ago.

And that was the only day in the state of Texas where we had more than 1,000 people test positive.

But I will tell you more important than that are the numbers about the number of people who are in hospitals.

And that number, even though we've had more people test positive for COVID-19, the number of people in hospitals has remained pretty much flat.

And Texas,

even though we've had too many people pass away, Texas pretty much has the lowest rate of fatalities related to COVID-19 in the country.

And so we're the most important.

You know,

it's a great question because

the disparity is so wide.

We're second best in the nation for the number of returns.

Let me give these numbers because they are amazing.

New York, 989 deaths per million.

Over the entire U.S., 131 deaths per million.

Texas, 17 deaths per

Right.

And so

in one day in New York, there were far more people who lost their lives than we've had during this entire pandemic in the state of Texas.

And our goal is to make sure we keep it that way.

And here's something important for you and your audience to know.

And that is Texans have done a good job in slowing the spread.

But it doesn't mean that the coronavirus has departed the state of Texas.

As we begin the process of opening up, we must maintain these distancing practices that have led to great success in the state of Texas.

Here's the deal.

If you've gone grocery shopping or whatever the case may be, you know that you've gone to the store and you've been able to do that without spreading the coronavirus.

We want people as they begin to go

to the hair salon or as they begin to go to restaurants or as they begin to go to a movie theater, whatever they may be doing, as we begin to open up businesses, maintain those safe, healthy businessing practices so that we can ensure that we can open up without spreading the coronavirus.

So if you see the numbers start to go up again, are we going backwards?

Are we going to close things again?

Here's what doctors and infectious disease experts have said, and that is when you open back up, you do need to expect some level of increase in the infection rate.

What matters is not so much what the infection rate is.

Again, what matters the most is the number of people who are hospitalized and the number of people who are losing their lives.

Understand this very important fact, and that is of the people who have lost their lives, most

are over 50 percent are over the age of 75.

And what we need to do is we need to protect our most vulnerable population, many of whom are in nursing homes.

And so we have stricter standards for nursing homes to make sure that COVID-19 is not being imported into nursing homes.

And if we can safeguard our seniors in Texas, we can do a terrific job at minimizing the loss of life.

So I am really concerned, Governor, about our southern border

because Mexico and many Latin American countries are, they have not hit a peak yet.

And it is,

I think it's Ecuador.

The numbers are off the charts.

And there will be a movement, I would think, to come to America, especially Texas, where it's good.

I know I would do that if nobody was watching the border and I needed to get my family to someplace safe or get some medical care.

What are we planning on doing on the border?

Already they're calling everybody a xenophobe if you do this.

But if there is a crisis on our border, the left is going to pound

us

on how we're not letting these people in for health care.

What are we thinking?

No one has let up on watching the border.

I stay in contact with the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety that has a high level of involvement of watching the border.

We have assigned in the Texas budget 500 Texas Department of Public Safety officers to be involved in border security related missions.

And then on top of that, I have been in conversations with federal leaders about what's going on on the border.

And what's happening is cross-border traffic has dwindled to just a trickle right now.

It's been a long, long time since we've had as few people coming across the border as there is right now.

That said, we will always remain vigilant, making sure that for one, the laws are applied, but second, we want to make sure that there is not going to be any cross-border importation of COVID-19 into our border counties.

So far, it remained good, but as usual, we're going to stay on top of it.

Do you see the schools opening up this fall?

Are you concerned about a rebound in a new flu season?

Again, all the talk is from all the doctors that there could very well be a rebound until there is a vaccine for this.

And what's going to happen,

however, between now and the school year is there will be a medication that will come out that people can take that will treat COVID-19.

So right now if you have COVID-19 there's no FDA approved drug that will help you be able to take a medication that will help you overcome COVID-19.

However, before the school year begins, that should be available in mass scale.

And we need to see how well that works, how well it diminishes it.

And again,

the population that typically goes to school is at lower risk.

Our goal is to be able to open schools in the fall, but we simply will not be able to make that call until we get closer to that time period.

How are the government's finances here in Texas?

I know these states that had these unbelievable retirement programs, they've all been crashing for a long time.

And I think they're using this to grab as much federal cash as they can for these collapsing states.

How are we financially?

Well, listen, our revenues are down.

For the state, our revenues,

our number one revenue is sales tax revenue, which of course is down.

And we also have revenue coming in from oil and gas severance tax, which of course is down.

And so our revenues are

our pensions are not as challenged as what you see in some other states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, et cetera, California.

And so we will not be as challenged in that regard.

And so we're going to be okay with regard to our pensions.

We need just to weather this immediate storm and then we can figure out where we are on our finances.

As you know, as you were kind of talking about in your lead-up to it, and that is there's been a tidal wave of financial support coming in from the federal government, some of which is going to the states, some of which is going to local governments,

in part to fill holes because of lack of revenue.

And we need to see what that will total.

As you know, we have a multi-billion dollar rainy day fund in the state of Texas that we will be able to tap into to help address any type of budgetary shortfall.

And right now, we simply are not able to figure out the math of what our shortfall may be as we continue to figure out what the cost and the extent to which these costs will be reimbursed by the money coming in from Washington, D.C.

I have so many questions.

I know you have to run.

Let me ask one more question.

Sure.

And that is,

Texas is, I mean, I moved to Texas because it's the freest state.

And I hope we're doing things that we're going to

ease some of the restrictions on businesses so they have an easier time opening back up.

But one of the things that has really disturbed me is, for instance, I live in Dallas.

Police officers now have the authority to stop people to check if they are essential workers

or they're just people driving around.

What is that?

Why can't we drive around?

Don't you think some of these restrictions are ridiculous?

Well, by law,

when we are in a time of disaster,

it's the governor's disaster declaration that has the supremacy power over local disaster regulations.

And as a result, for one, under my disaster declaration, you are free to drive around wherever you want to.

For another, I'm going to be announcing another declaration that opens up so many businesses across the state of Texas.

And that will be the law in the state of Texas.

And every county will be required to follow that law.

And so we will be injecting a whole lot of freedom.

But I will tell you this along the lines of what you're talking about, and that is another thing that happens in disaster declarations is we waive this regulation or that regulation, injecting a whole lot more freedom and ease of doing business.

And a lot of people are saying, you know what, this has worked so well.

We just need to continue on even after this disaster to do away with those regulations and make sure we have even more freedom in the great state of Texas.

Right.

I would love to see those and discuss those with the audience, not necessarily with you, but I'd love to see them because that's the direction that

we should be going.

Governor, thank you very much.

Appreciate your time.

Appreciate all your hard work.

I know this has been a stressful time for you and everybody on the staff, but thank you for the job that you are doing.

Governor Gray Gabbitt.

We'll get it again.

Thank you, Glenn.

You bet.

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Thank you for being here today.

The special tonight that we're doing at 9 o'clock is really

a must-see.

I don't think this is going to last on Facebook or anyplace else if anyone decides to cover it.

I'd be interested to see if they cover it.

If they

cover it, it's going to be labeled conspiracy theory and everything else.

And I want you to know right up front, we are not saying that this virus was engineered or

this is what we're going to show you tonight is just people

who were concerned about a pandemic, just like George W.

Bush was, and prepared.

And when the pandemic happened, they were ready with an answer.

And unfortunately, I don't agree with their answers.

I don't agree with their motives.

I don't agree with it's all based on Agenda 2030, which is the

next goal, Agenda 21, we exposed.

And everybody said, oh, that's crazy.

And so they dropped it and they went to Agenda 2030.

Well, this is Agenda 2030.

And it was done with Bill Gates money.

And

we have it all on videotape.

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If you want to know where these policies came from and why these policies were put in, maybe not by even people in the White House.

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We also got something through a Freedom of Information Act that we're going to be sharing with you in the next few weeks

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the tech side

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And this is a redesigning of our entire society globally.

And you must be aware of it.

And we're going to take you through it.

We'll give you all of the sources.

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Please be careful on who you listen to on this stuff because it can easily be tipped.

It can be.

For instance, Stu, did you see that video yesterday

of the president, or I'm sorry, of

John Roberts in the White House pressroom?

Yes, I did see some of that.

Yeah.

Okay, so this was going around as blockbuster.

Look, the whole coronavirus thing is a hoax,

and everybody in the press room has already been vaccinated.

Well, no, that is, those words were said on tape, but those words also struck me as gallows humor.

Yeah.

And

that's not what was really going on.

But people took those words and twisted them them to try to convince some people that, see, everybody in the press room knows this, this whole thing is a hoax.

Yeah, I mean, it seems already been tested.

Two things have been vaccinated.

Right, right.

It seems like two things are going on there.

One is there, one person is seriously discussing the study from LA and Santa Clara where it looks like maybe more people were

infected than previously thought, which

is counterintuitive is a good thing in this particular context because it gives you a better idea that maybe it's less lethal.

On the other side, there's somebody there who's just joking.

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We've already been vaccinated.

I mean, it's certainly the way it comes off to me.

And clearly.

That's the exact kind of humor we would use.

Totally.

I could see that.

Well, it doesn't matter.

I mean, let them all die.

We've all got the vaccine.

I mean, that's the kind of stuff we would say.

Yeah, it's not maybe, you know, it's, you know, Ronald Reagan got in trouble for this when he was by an open microphone and started talking about bombing Russia or the Soviet Union at the time.

It doesn't always, it's not always a good idea to joke by an open microphone, but it does seem like

there is an element of truth, though, in the conversation in which

there are these studies that at least show some promise.

I mean, I don't know.

There's also a real issue with false negatives and false positives in the study.

Yeah, but it's, you know,

even say...

You could even say that he wasn't joking when he said, so it was all a fraud or it was all

the flu, I think he said.

So it's basically the flu.

Yeah, so this is this is this is all made up.

No, no, no, no.

This wasn't a fraud.

This wasn't perpetrated.

You know, maybe the numbers were wrong, but no,

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One of the things that I think Donald Trump really needs to get a handle on and

make sure that he is

out front on this is the PPP.

The mom and pop shops,

the small businesses of America are the ones that provide 48% of the jobs in America.

And

when you have

When you have these

huge companies,

which I would deem as huge.

I mean, you know, if you're a if you're a half a billion dollar company, I think you're big.

You know, you're not the pizza place.

And the pizza place

should have equal footing with everybody else when it's coming in line.

In fact, I think some of these mom and pops,

if we're not helping the entrepreneur, you will lose the next line of entrepreneurs.

And that is what makes us different.

You know, you have Fiesta Restaurant Group.

They employ 10,000 people.

Okay, so they got a loan of $10 million.

Now, Fiesta Restaurant Group,

let me see if I can jump on here and see what that is.

The Fiesta Group, no,

it just sends me to their stock.

Their stock is crashing.

It's like a pollo tropicas, taco cabana,

several of in that realm.

Okay, so at least 75 companies that have received the aid were publicly traded and received a combined $300 million in low-interest taxpayer-based loans.

Okay,

I think these are big businesses, but

what are we doing for the little guys?

So there's this whole...

Did you see the list of the public companies, the big publicly traded companies that were helped out?

I've seen bits and pieces some of the companies.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, I know

Shake Shack was one we talked about earlier this week, and they actually were returning their loans.

They gave the money back.

Yeah.

And it's not.

Look, I understand that there's differences.

If you're a franchise owner and you own one of these places, you are running a small business.

And the concept is, you know, look, I've got a location.

I've only employed, you know, 30 or 40 people in this location.

Well, I am a small business, just like another small business with that same size.

But under that big umbrella, it's definitely not what the average person pictured when they talked about small business loans.

And you wonder if there's a better way to go through to the larger corporation for some of that stuff.

Right.

So if McDonald's is getting a small business loan, I have a problem with it.

But if my local guy filed with a local bank and he owns a McDonald's, that's totally different.

But McDonald's as a corporation should not be standing in line with everybody else because McDonald's is always going to get to the front of the line.

You know, so they have an advantage when they go to the front, when they are employing so many people.

That's not a small business.

The local McDonald's is a small business.

And if it's locally owned, I understand that.

Starbucks, if Starbucks goes and files for, you know, a loan as a small business, excuse me, no.

But my local Starbucks is a franchise.

That guy only makes money two days out of 30.

So he's not going to be able to keep that open.

So, yeah, I want to help him keep his doors open, but I don't necessarily want to help Starbucks.

Does that make sense?

Of course.

And that's not what anyone thought of when they talked about this thing, you know, when it was approved.

I think everyone recognizes, people think of, like, okay, I've got a guy, you know, there was a story I heard yesterday of a guy who dumped his life savings into opening a restaurant in January.

That sucks

in a major way.

And it's like, well, that person,

it's totally not their fault.

They didn't do anything wrong.

They were asked by the government to go out of business, basically.

So, of course, those are the types of people that if we're going to comply with these policies in a short-term basis until we can get things restarted and understand this thing and build up our PPE and all those other things, then it makes sense to offer them some sort of compensation to get them through this time so they can hopefully keep their employees employed and everything else.

But I will bet you that that guy gets nothing.

I'll bet you that guy goes in for a loan and he doesn't have 12 months of records.

Yeah.

So he doesn't have any business record to show that he would have succeeded.

So

I can guarantee you that guy's just out.

And that's just

one part of it.

We know a lot of small business owners across the country that we've dealt with over the years, and so many of them I've heard from that say basically a version of the same story, which is if you went to the bank all the time and had a relationship with a specific banker and you did business there all the time, you got in front of the line.

If you were a business that was running on cash flow and didn't need loans from the bank all the time, well, then you didn't have a relationship like that and you were not able to get in line.

And a lot of those people got

tossed out of the program.

Now, they did approve all this new money.

Maybe we'll see that get solved here with a second batch.

I'm never optimistic with a government program, though.

Never, never optimistic on that.

By the way, who thinks Harvard should get $9 million of federal aid?

Oh, come on.

Harvard?

Harvard?

They've got a multi-Harvard.

They have a $30 billion endowment, right?

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

It's $41 billion.

Sorry.

$41

billion in their endowment, and they came and had their handout for $9 million, and they say they can't make it without it.

Oh, come on.

Excuse me.

That's like Bill Gates coming and saying, I need a bailout.

I'm sorry, I need a bailout.

You know, Richard Branson is looking for a bailout right now, but at least Richard Branson is putting his island and all of his assets up as collateral.

I don't mind if

you need to go get a loan and you're willing to put your assets up for a collateral and you're a billionaire.

Okay.

Well, at least you got skin in the game.

Harvard needs $10 million from us when they have $41 billion in their trust fund?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

They should be able to run that place just on the interest being generated

from, or the investment income being generated from that.

I mean, there's no reason for us to be ever giving them another dime in any circumstance when you have a $43 billion endowment.

So the Ivy League is comprised of eight elite private colleges that control endowments with a combined value of over $140 billion.

$140 billion as of last year.

Five of the schools reported operational surpluses of over $200 million

in their last financial statement.

And eight of these schools are now set to receive $61 million

from you.

From you.

Your kids are never going to go to Harvard.

Your kids are most likely never going to go to Princeton.

They're never going to go to these Ivy League schools.

They have $140 billion

in cash reserves right now.

And they came and they made $200 million

in profit that they could just put off to the side just last year, and they're crying poor mouth today.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

I mean, is there no shame?

No, there's not.

There's no shame.

There's absolutely no shame.

Should point out that my kids are smarter than everyone else's kids, so they may very well go to Harvard or Princeton.

Just wanted to make sure America knows that.

I just want you to know, even if my kids were smart enough,

I'm not sending them.

I'm not kidding.

I'm not

sending them.

Especially with this stuff going on.

I mean, you know, you see

how it turds kids',

you know, I don't know, foundations inside out.

Almost all colleges seem to do that these days.

But there's no need for this, right?

And I think you look at the people who are legitimately struggling.

I talked to a small business owner who said, I am looking at this program.

This program will give me about two and a half months or two months of

money to pay my employees.

However,

it is not a grant unless I keep them employed for four months.

Well, what's the difference here?

How do I make up that difference?

I can't pay them for four months because you've told me I'm not allowed to make any money.

So, what am I supposed to do here?

I'm already behind.

All my reserves are out the window.

I've got a couple weeks left of cash.

What am I supposed to do?

And that is where, like, you're seeing this thing, I think, start to creep up now, Glenn, in the media where they're doing the same thing they did with the Tea Party, which is talk about these

protesters in this, they're all AstroTurf.

Here's the rich millionaire who also supports them.

He's probably behind them too.

And all of this stuff as if there's nobody in America who is feeling the pinch of an entire economy being shut down and now can't run their business, can't pay their bills, can't put food on the table.

These people are begging to get back out there.

And look, we may need to keep this closed down for a longer period of time, particularly in certain areas where it's really bad, still to this day.

The tri-state area is probably the top of that list

in New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey.

But the bottom line is, these people are real people who have real jobs and real families, and you're not letting them go to work to earn money to support their actual kids and spouses.

That's a massive problem.

I'm not surprised they're out there protesting.

Would anyone, would anyone

have

compassion for Google or Apple coming with their handout at this point?

No.

They've got cash.

They're making money hand over fist.

Listen to this.

Brown University has $4,200,000,000 in endowment.

They just got almost $5 million from the United States government.

Columbia has $10,950,000,000,000.

They just got $12 million from the federal government.

Cornell has an endowment of $7 billion.

They just got $12 million.

Dartmouth, $5.7 billion in their endowment.

They just got $3.5 million.

Harvard, $40 billion in their endowment.

They just got $8.5 million.

University of Pennsylvania, $14 billion in endowment.

They just got almost $10 million.

Princeton has $26 billion.

They're getting $2.5 million from the United States.

Yale University, $30 billion.

billion dollars.

They just got seven million dollars from you, the taxpayer.

For what?

None of these people ever pay taxes.

They don't pay taxes.

They don't play by the same rules.

This is despicable what is happening.

Donald Trump needs to hold these corporations and these kinds of institutions accountable.

They should not get a single dime, period.

Wow.

All right, let me tell you about gold line.

There was another story out today about gold that I wanted to share with you.

And it is the headline is, The Fed can't print gold.

Now, this is from the Bank of America.

They've just called gold the ultimate store of value and they raise the target price of gold in the next 12 months to $3,000.

They said because the Fed can't print gold unlike every other asset that they're doing it to.

Central banks and governments double their balance sheets and fiscal deficits.

We up our $8 million gold target or $8 million gold target from $2,000 to $3,000 an ounce.

And while that's not all smooth sailing, with a bank warning that a strong U.S.

dollar backdrop, falling equity, volatility, blah, blah, blah, China will remain in headwinds as now.

It looks like

the central bank lunacy will be the barbaric relic.

According to the most clueless people of the 21st century, it only had value in the dollar because it was tradition.

The U.S.

bank just said that gold is the ultimate store of value.

Okay, so who do you believe?

Who do you believe?

This is the banks now.

These are the people.

They're advising the banks.

They're saying, hey, we should have more gold because that's real value because...

Our own other arm in the Federal Reserve is just devaluing money.

There was another story that came out this week that said money is worthless.

That That story was in the New York Times.

Money,

sorry, not worthless, meaningless.

It's meaningless.

When money is meaningless, it's a very short ride to worthless.

You're going to see a strong dollar for a while, and then it's going to crater.

Please.

Do your own homework and figure out if gold is right for you and your family.

You should have about 10% of whatever you have, I believe, in gold.

Don't go crazy, but 10% is usually what's recommended.

I think you need to diversify as much as you possibly can.

Gold is, let me just quote this again,

the ultimate store of value.

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So, Chris Cuomo, you know, with his fake coming out party, still has not been addressed by CNN.

I don't know how they are handling that internally,

but

God bless CNN, huh?

How are they still in business?

I loved Elon Musk saying, I can't believe they're still in business.

It really is incredible.

I mean, like, look, I understand that they're a left-wing media organization, and we don't expect them to address all of our political concerns.

But this is one of your journalists who was violating a quarantine,

whose brother is the governor of the state, and you keep letting him interview him on a show as if he's going to be held accountable in any way.

And then you have him fake his coming out of the basement as if it's the first time he's been out when it's on record that he was.

And he even, by the way, he even disclosed this.

Chris Cuomo said that that he got in an altercation with someone on a bicycle about this.

This is not okay, and the fact that they have addressed it and just pointed to the video as if nothing was, you know, awry with it is really amazing.

I mean, the standards are lower than we even expected.

That's pretty darn low.

That's pretty low.

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