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Today we go into, well, it's still COVID mania, I suppose, but we have some different things that you might not have heard yet, including talking to a guy who owns a gun store in Massachusetts.

It is not an essential business.

Your Second Amendment rights are not so essential in Massachusetts.

He's decided to keep his place open.

He doesn't care.

He's going forward anyway.

We talked to him.

We talked to Thomas Massey about what's going on in Washington and how they're going to try to pass more money to be doled out without a vote.

It's a very disturbing development that is going on right now.

We also have a story completely unrelated to what's going on in the news of a guy who stops, his car breaks down, and somebody very interesting stops at the side of the road to fix the car.

Would be a very strange moment.

We'll let him tell his story as well.

And all the updates that you need from what's going on all around the world with coronavirus.

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For the first time in the history of Chicago animal shelters, they have run out of adoptable pets.

People apparently have been running out to get a pet.

And if they're out,

if you would like to adopt a teenager or two,

my doors are wide open.

Wide open.

You can come in here with wet lung and I'm fine.

Adopt away.

Holy cow.

Wow.

Things are going well, huh?

Man.

Wow.

Okay.

So, you know, I feel so bad for anybody who lives in a very small house or an apartment in New York.

I'm surprised they're just not all killing each other at this point.

Yeah.

It is, it is, I have a, you know, I have a nice house with the backyard backyard and everything else, but it is so confining.

It is just three weeks is enough.

It's like,

I got to get out of here.

It is crazy.

Here's the good news, though.

The good news is you only have another 18 months to go, according to Ezekiel Manual.

Just another 18 months, and then we're done with this.

So don't worry about it.

America would never.

America, America will

be dead.

We'll all be dead in 18 months.

Yeah, we would.

We would.

We would.

And there's no way something.

There's no way that we go back.

They're talking now that, you know, probably in November, we're all going to have to go back in for the winter.

No way.

No.

No way.

People are just not going to do it.

They're going to be like, I don't care.

I'll die.

I am not going to do it.

Three months.

My kids are.

I mean, it's enough.

My kids are out of their mind right now.

I have a teenage son, teenage son, and he is, he was homeschooled.

He does not like homeschooling.

He needs the social stuff.

He needs to be very active, needs to be in school or a prison work chain gang or something, but he just he hates it.

And he is, he is up until like three o'clock in the morning.

Yesterday, two days ago, Tanya got up at five and he was up at five just watching TV.

You know, the time before he was on the computer.

I mean, we just cannot stop it.

And I, I mean, we have all the computer keyboards and everything locked up in the safe at night.

And he'll find, he's like MacGyver.

He'll find something to do all night.

And it's just, it's, it's impossible.

And then when you try to do something as a family, oh my gosh, I cannot take, I cannot,

I have nightmares of the Netflix or the Amazon page with, you know, all of the options.

It's a never-ending nightmare because you'll sit down and you'll say, okay, you want to watch this?

And one of them will say, oh, if you're going to watch this, I'm going to go do this.

Yep.

No, no, no, no.

Okay.

All right.

Well, then let's watch this.

Oh, well, if you're the other one, if you're going to watch it, I'm just going to listen to my music and they put their earpods in.

It's like, oh, good God.

And

they're not even close.

It's like,

you know, one is Doctor Who and the other one is high school musical.

And there's nothing,

nothing that is a bridge between those two.

It's horrible.

Do you just horrible?

Must you watch TV together?

I mean, like, can you just.

Well, I'd like to.

I mean, right now, right now, in the last two days, and Tanya said to me last night, I said, honey, I'm sorry I can't help.

It was the book thing, and I'm working all the time from home.

And it makes it worse because I'm home and I don't have any time to do anything.

And she's like, honey, we got to do something.

And she said, I, you know what?

I think just, I'm just going to just give up.

And I'm like, okay, that's not an option.

But right now, I think maybe we have to just relax some of the stuff.

I don't know because they're, I don't see my kids.

They're in other rooms with ear pods.

They're, you know, whatever.

And it,

oh my gosh.

Okay, take away, take away their music.

Take away YouTube.

Take away, you know, whatever that is that they're doing.

Take it away.

Are you kidding me?

They're almost insane as it is.

Am I the only one dealing with this?

No.

I just think that this is the time for those sorts of pieces.

That leniency is valuable here, right?

I think so too, but I could be very wrong.

I feel like this, like, look, there are reasons to help with long-term

habits, right?

To get them off of all the devices and all of that.

In this situation, you know, you just have to like, all right, well, today they're just on the iPad.

But 30 days and it's a habit.

30 days and it's a habit.

Yeah, I don't think it's on the pool.

We're looking at a lot more than 30 days.

Took them out to the pool.

She got a pool.

Have them go swimming.

Yeah.

Go out and go swimming.

Little brats.

Well, I turned on, I told Tanya, I said, let's heat the pool because it's 60 today.

I said, let's heat the pool.

And she said, heat the pool.

Do you know that?

Because I was like, we're not spending money anyplace else.

We're not going anywhere.

We're not going anywhere.

You know, but you could lose your job.

Yes.

But the kids will be out of the house.

And there's definitely this thing going on, I think, too, with

just like understanding.

Like, obviously, like, you know, we're in, you know, outside in the suburbs in Texas.

It's a totally different situation, as you point out, to the city.

And people in New York City, even it's a totally different situation than people in, like, imagine being in a developing country where you have like 15 people in your house anyway, and you have you either go out and work or die.

There's no social distancing going on.

15 people in your house, and it's 250 square feet.

Right.

Try that out.

Yeah.

And here we are, bitching in the cloud first world problem.

Yeah, but I can't get my kids in the pool or up to the movie room.

I go.

I have to tell you, I have not,

maybe because I lived in New York, I can relate to

the

they must be losing their minds.

Imagine being in one of those skyscrapers or just in one of those just ratty, rat-infested, cockroach-infested apartment buildings in New York where you've got 500 square feet and just two children, one child.

I mean, it's got to be crazy, crazy bad.

Yeah.

Where you can't go out into the park?

Or did you hear about, well, who was the, what was it in Denver?

Where a father and daughter went out and they were just throwing a softball back and forth to each other.

The social distancing, they weren't around everybody.

They weren't in a team or anything.

It was just a father and daughter.

They arrested the father.

Yeah, dragged him out in handcuffs

in front of his six-year-old daughter.

That is insane.

That's crazy.

That's insane.

I don't know what's Colorado.

What the hell is happening to you?

That's got to stop.

I guess

they're trying to apologize.

I would not take that apology.

I would take that to court.

I would take that to court.

I'm getting a little surly.

I got nothing.

Yeah, I got nothing but time on my head.

I don't accept your apology, you bastards.

No.

Some of these restrictions, though, they're just anti-American.

They're just unconstitutional.

They are.

And, you know, finally, some people are starting to push back a little bit.

In Idaho, we've got a group of people led, of course, by a Bundy.

Am and Bundy is getting

people together in Sandpoint, Idaho, and saying, no, we're not going to do this.

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All right, so we have another stimulus bill that is coming up.

And God only knows what they're putting in these things.

And there's nobody doing their job in Congress or in the Senate.

We have Representative Thomas Massey, who got massacred, what was it, just last week, for standing up and saying, no, you have to have these people come in and actually debate the bill.

Right now, Nancy Pelosi is passing all of these things.

This is just the leadership in Congress and the leadership in Senate just doing business and railroading all of this stuff through, and it's absolutely unconstitutional.

Thomas Massey, who is being a watchdog of our money and our Constitution, welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

Yeah, the swamp nearly crushed me 10 days ago for insisting that Congress show up for work.

And they're going to try and do it again.

They're trying to pass bills with nobody there.

It's not constitutional.

And tell me why truck drivers and nurses and grocery store workers have to go to work, but Congress doesn't.

It is, it's obscene, Thomas.

It really is obscene.

I mean, I understand if they don't, you know, most of them are old and, you know, are prime candidates for getting this.

So I understand that they don't want to go in, but then fine.

Do it on the phone.

Do it on the internet.

That's what we're all having to do.

Do it on Zoom.

You can do it, Congress.

They're not even looking for ways to do it.

In fact, Nancy Pelosi has said she won't call everybody back because it's just too dangerous.

Glenn, we're telling millions of school children to go to school online, and Congress can't even hold a hearing online.

It's ridiculous.

You know, this is what I've said this time.

So they're going to try and do something by UC.

I don't want to get crushed again.

I know I'm going to get crushed again.

But what I've said is vote remotely.

Enable voting remotely for Congress.

If you don't want to show up for work, at least work from home.

But this is about not having any accountability.

And by the way, this loan program, is it appropriate to call it a loan program if you expect 100% of the loans to default?

These are not, the banks are not loan originators.

They're grant administrators.

And it's free money.

When When you put up a sign and say free money, is it any surprise that you run out of $300 billion the first day?

No, we'll run out of $250 billion.

You know, the White House told me when they were trying to get me to vote for this bill 10 days ago, it's so big, we're making it so big so we won't have to revisit this issue until like July or August.

That's what they told me.

Oh, don't worry, we've got plenty of money there.

The Fed can leverage it.

You won't have to vote on anything like this again.

And here we are, not even two weeks later, and they're telling us they need, well, the Senate Republicans are saying a quarter of a trillion.

And then Pelosi is saying, no, we need another quarter of a trillion.

So this will be half a trillion dollars, not even two weeks after the first bill.

And they don't want anybody to go on record.

So what's in this bill, Thomas?

Do you have any idea?

I know that they're now saying, the Democrats are saying they won't vote unless, and this kills me, unless we change our voting system in November and we allow

some sort of remote voting for every American.

Yet they won't remote vote for the bill.

Yeah, they can't enable remote voting for 535 members of Congress.

I don't think it's going to go well with the general public.

By the way, that's a state issue.

There are states that have mail-in ballots and there are states that don't.

There's no reason to nationalize this.

This is something that the states handle.

People need to get out their constitutions and look at them.

And I will tell you something, Glenn.

I see a very grim future here in a few weeks if the governors don't reverse course.

The assembly lines are shutting down.

People, when you see these jobless numbers, those are people who aren't going to the factories and aren't working.

By the way,

you know, we all like to think that the farmers are still working, and they are for the most part, but most of that food goes through a factory that has to be approved by the USDA, et cetera, before it gets to your table.

No factories are shutting down, Glenn.

There were six slaughterhouses, like giant meat packers, that have shut down.

We're going to have to go to the bottom of the camera.

I know that the farmers are now buying up.

I mean, I have cattle on my ranch.

We're stocking up on food, making sure that you have enough so you're not selling your cattle because there's no one to take the cattle and process the meat.

I I think we'll have meat shortages.

I think because of lack of workers on the ground, there's lots of farmers.

I talked to a farmer yesterday in North Carolina, said he's ready to pull a crop up.

He doesn't have anybody to do it.

And he can't afford to pay anybody to do it because he's not sure he qualifies for the loan because he only hires people two months at a time, three times a year.

Right.

And what are they going to do?

The loan still isn't going to make people come to work.

You know, you've seen pictures of dairies pouring out milk.

You're going to see pictures of cattlemen shooting their cattle and burying them because they can't afford, there's no feed to be had, and there's nobody that will process them.

And meanwhile, you're going to have shortages in the supermarket.

By the way, I've got a bill I introduced like five years ago to fix this called the Prime Act that would let local processors process meat, and you could sell it with inside the state, and

it would allow local processors to fulfill this need so that you don't have farmers killing animals instead of putting them into food.

Thomas,

that is the kind of thinking that we need to get on.

You know, Donald Trump was made fun of because America first.

But

all that is, is think globally, act locally.

Every hippie understands that.

And all you're saying is give the local people a chance to do things without having to go through the federal government.

Let the states do it, the way our Constitution was built.

So

what's the holdup on this one?

Well, you know, ironically, I have the hippies in Congress, have co-sponsored my bill.

It's a collection of conservatives and hippies.

And

the red tape is going to cause people to starve here in a few weeks.

I'm telling you, if something doesn't change, it's going to get ugly.

And the people who are still going to work, the productive members of society, they're going to, when neighbors start taking stuff from other neighbors, and they're going to be able to justify it in their mind, right?

They're going to look at a neighbor who's got all this food and say, you know, my kid needs to eat.

That guy hoarded food.

That's not fair.

I'm going to take his stuff.

When people start taking other people's stuff,

then the productive members of society are going to stay home to guard their stuff.

And it's going to just grind to a halt so quickly.

And

we are weeks away.

This is quite a charge.

I've been talking about food shortages now for a while, but I don't predict them coming this quickly.

But this is quite a charge because nobody is talking about this.

Where are you getting this feeling, Thomas, that

we are that close to food shortages, significant food shortages?

Talking to Congressman Thomas Massey.

There's an article out yesterday that talks about six of the big giant meat processing plants.

I mean, one of these handles like 1,900 cattle a day shutting down

because the workers have the virus and they don't have the tasks to know which workers don't have it, et cetera, et cetera.

There are articles out there

and just myself being a farmer.

I've got 65 cattle.

And I can tell you the price of cattle is going down.

Meanwhile, the price of meat is going up in the supermarket.

And it's

caused because the supply chains are brittle.

And

we need to change course because

by the middle of this summer, if something hasn't changed, it's going to be ugly.

So, Thomas,

what should people be doing right now?

They should be telling their governors to turn the economy back on.

They should put a mask on.

They should quit listening to the people who say that masks don't work.

They should put a mask on.

The employers should provide masks.

When you get to work, we need the cheap test quickly.

We need to know who's got some immunity conferred to them.

Because they've had it and recovered.

We need to know who's got the virus and needs to stay home.

Instead of walking down all of the United States,

we just need to ask the ones who are sick to stay home.

or carrying the virus.

So

there were some things.

Yesterday, I was talking because, you know, I own a couple of companies and I was like, you know, I don't know why we can't open partially, yada, yada.

And the response immediately was, lawsuits, Glenn.

Lawsuits.

If something happens, someone gets sick, even if they're not getting sick from here, but you've partially reopened things, they can sue you.

And that's true.

I mean, we have to have protection as businesses that we're not going to get sued, you know, when we go go back to work.

Maybe that's a place where we could step in with legislation to say as long as your employer is testing every employee and as long as they're giving you a mask, a brand new mask when you come to work, that they can't be held liable or something like that.

There could be a place for legislation to get us out of this rut that's getting deeper.

All right, Thomas Massey, hang on the phone for just a second.

I want to take a one-minute break, then I want to come back and I want to ask you about this voting nonsense from the Democrats.

What else do you know, if anything, is in this bill?

And

again,

what should we be doing on the national level?

I think you're right.

The state level is where we need to start because it's where it's really out of control.

But what we need to do on the national level as well.

Back in just one minute.

Stand by.

So we are looking at another 6.5 million Americans who have lost their jobs or are applying for unemployment this week.

We are probably right now, Thomas, at another,

probably

between 12 and 15 percent unemployment when we see the numbers in the 1st of May.

And it doesn't seem like it's going to get any better.

And they're still talking about four to eight weeks, you know, under lock and key.

The Congress says they want to give more.

I've been talking to people that are losing their restaurants, are losing everything, have not been able to get in line for a loan because the money is all gone.

Should the government be making these loans?

We shouldn't be doing it because we are encouraging the governors to keep doing what they're doing, which is to shut down the economy.

They're going to end up starving people.

The governors are.

You're already seeing people committing suicides because they can't get medical help or they're locked down.

The bill that Pelosi wants, she wants a 15% increase increase in SNAP, $100 billion to local governments, and $150 billion to hospitals, I think.

So she wants to add another quarter of a trillion to this.

But the problem, you know, it sounds like it's humane and

the right thing to do is to give all this money away, but

it doesn't make the food grow.

It doesn't get the factories running.

We're going to run out of things that support life on this planet.

So

how do you balance this because if i you know i understand that kind that that to me is critical infrastructure farm farming you know slaughterhouses food processing all of that that's critical infrastructure um but i i wasn't the one who shut my business down the government told me to shut it down doesn't the government have a responsibility to reimburse me for all that i lost three weeks ago i was having the best year of my life now i don't know if I can even open my business again.

Do I get anything back from the government?

Don't they have a responsibility constitutionally even?

That's a great point.

But here's the problem.

It's the governors who have shut things down, and it's the federal government who's trying to make you whole.

There's no feedback loop.

The governors are not suffering the maleffects of their policy.

And so

we are sustaining their male effects, and so we've put them in this moral hazard.

So governors like Ron DeSantis had to fall in line like the day after this stimulus thing passed.

He had no other option.

And so, that's the problem.

And we're just pushing these governors to keep doing it.

If the governors had to make people whole for what they are doing,

they would

start coming up with sensible policy instead of staying stuck on stupid.

So, aren't there places like New York that should be shut down?

And that is up to the governor of New York.

And

whatever happens there, they have to sustain that in New York.

Every state, every governor has got different policies.

Christine Ohm has got it as a policy that's suitable for her state.

The problem is the feds are proposing one policy.

If there's a role for government, Glenn, I think it's in getting these masks out there.

It's in getting the tests out there.

It's in publishing the data.

It's in tracking this disease.

And I'm sorry about my line.

Yeah, I don't know if you're at Chernobyl or where you are, but

let me ask you one question.

Talking to Congressman Thomas Massey, I cannot get an answer on the way down, and I can't get an answer now on the way out.

What are the tripwires?

What has to happen?

for these states and the government to start recommending that we all go back to work.

You know, the numbers are all trending in the right place.

Okay, great.

We don't want to come back too soon.

I get it.

But can you please find out what the tripwires are, Thomas?

Because no one will give it,

it's all arbitrary.

I asked Dr.

Fauci that question a few days ago.

He said it was hospital admissions when they start to flatten out.

But the problem is, as soon as they start to flatten out and they ease off of this mitigation phase, and if something flares up, they're going to shut it all back down again.

All right, Thomas Massey, congressman from the great state of Kentucky and one of the congressmen that actually has some balls.

Thomas Massey, thanks for being on.

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All right, so let's look at our coronavirus update.

First, the numbers, total confirmed cases, we're now at 1.5 million, up from 1.4, almost 100,000 added to it.

Total confirmed deaths worldwide, almost at 90,000, up 7,000 yesterday.

The U.S.

now has almost half a million that are confirmed cases, 435,160.

I can guarantee you there are a lot more than that.

14,797 deaths.

That is up almost 2,000 from yesterday.

Nearly 2,000 deaths in the U.S.

makes this the highest death rate day so far for the pandemic in any country on earth.

U.S.

is now officially tested, 2 million people, just over 2 million people, 2.2, making the U.S.

44th in the rate of testing per 1 million in population.

Less than 1% of the population has been tested for COVID-19.

What we have found out now is that the virus spreads nearly two times faster than previously estimated.

This is coming from Los Alamos, the National Laboratory.

They published a study estimating the total number of other people infected by each SARS-CoV-2 carrier.

The research found people infected during the initial outbreak in Wuhan probably passed the virus to an average of 5.7 others.

That's significant.

That is more than double the 2 to 2.5 other people estimated by the World Health Organization, but we can't take them at their word on anything anymore.

Patients sick with the seasonal flu by comparison will infect about 1.3 people.

If the numbers are accurate, The coronavirus pandemic could only be stopped by a widespread vaccination or or built immunity for at least 82% of the population.

That's according to researchers who reviewed the Chinese data from the CDC,

including the mobile phone data that tracked the movement of patients leaving Wuhan.

The WHO is facing significant criticism for downplaying the contagious nature of COVID-19 and China's role in

the cover-up

that could have stopped the spread of this virus, but of course,

didn't.

More Western governments now agree the virus likely came from a Chinese laboratory, not from exotic food markets.

I don't know if this is good news or bad news.

I mean, it's good news that people aren't eating bat soup.

But it's bad news that it came from a laboratory.

We can add now Great Britain to the growing list of governments who are confirming that SARS-CoV-2 virus likely came from the Chinese Communist Party-backed viral research lab.

The U.S., U.K., Israel, Canada, Australia, Taiwan, Germany have all reached similar conclusions.

The virus behind COVID-19 was most likely laboratory grown.

That's farther than we went last night on our special.

Last night we did a great special on the Chinese Communist Party and how it's just killing the world.

I want to play a little piece from that special where we went over the evidence that it was actually and confirmed by the Chinese Communist Party before the outbreak.

that they were doing experiments with these particular bats very close to where they said the bat soup was.

Watch.

In February, two researchers from the South China University of Technology published a paper that was immediately taken down.

Gee, I wonder why.

Let's take a look at their credentials.

Their resume looks pretty darn impressive.

Joint International

Research Laboratory, South China University of Technology, Hazong University of Science and Technology, Wuhan University of Science and Technology.

I mean, they're not slouches.

They're not exactly a couple of internet bloggers in their mommy's basement.

Well maybe they didn't have a big-name supporter.

Maybe they just went rogue.

But it says here they actually had the support of the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

Okay so why did this get pulled?

Well it's easy.

Their scientific data went to counter the propaganda.

It was a question the Communist Party didn't want to be asked.

Their report detailed that not one single horseshoe bat was sold at the Wuhan animal market.

Let me quote, according to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market.

In fact, the bats responsible for carrying the coronavirus come from an area over 550 miles away from the animal market.

So if the bats aren't from that area and there weren't any of them being sold in the market, where did the outbreak come from?

Because the data, which now comes from multiple sources, isn't supporting the Wuhan animal market.

The two researchers screened the area and they found two locations near the market where both were known to be studying coronavirus.

One of them is only 300 yards away from the market.

That's the length of three football fields.

So that sounds like a good possibility.

What's the location?

The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

The same exact place the researcher was gathering up horseshoe bats in the video.

That's where they worked.

Now at this point, it seems pretty obvious.

But the researchers sum up their conclusions here.

Quote,

In summary, someone was entangled with the evolution of the 2019 COVID coronavirus.

And in addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer corona probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan.

End quote.

What's amazing about this is we showed you the video last night from the Chinese Communist Party where they have the researchers going out and collecting these bats and saying, hey, we got to be really careful.

Don't get it on your skin or anything because

this is highly contagious.

It's very, very dangerous.

They were saying that, and it was broadcast on

Chinese television by the official state television

in, I think it was in November or early December.

And those are the people that were in those caves taking those bats, saying how dangerous it was.

They work and brought all of that stuff back to Wuhan.

Then there's the breakout.

Fascinating.

It

seems pretty hard to refute, but right now the Chinese are saying that it was an American military that brought it over to Wuhan, and they have proof because the so-called Wuhan virus was over in South Carolina last summer, and the United States government brought it over to China.

Doesn't sound like we're headed for any place nice, but we could have seen this coming.

Back years ago on this program, we talked about epidemics.

What year was this from, Stu?

It's 2018, May 2018.

2018.

Okay.

And it's Rand Wilson.

His book was Epidemic.

We talked to him just nothing, it wasn't like a big thing breaking out at the moment.

There was a little little talk about

we were right just after the Ebola thing.

There wind up being Ebola patients that came in the United States, even here in Dallas where we're broadcasting.

And we brought him on to kind of talk about

what the next threats could be.

Listen to this clip with

today's context.

So

Ebola, you know, I think we're sitting here and

there's really kind of two schools or two camps.

One that roll their eyes and like, okay, well, everybody always panics and it's always fine.

And the other side that is like, we're ripe for a pandemic.

We're all going to die.

Where are we?

Which side is more accurate?

Well, I think the we're ripe for a pandemic is probably correct, although

I don't think we're all going to die.

But there are definitely reasons to be concerned about the state of the global public health system.

It is not adequately prepared to deal with a pandemic, whether it's something that comes out of the Congo River basin like Ebola, or whether it comes out of a bird market in China, like a new flu or something like that.

Or have like a bird market in China.

Yeah, well, it could be anything, a new flu, something like that.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's

really bizarre to listen back to that.

He also went went on to talk about

one of the things that worked really well during the Ebola situation was it, you know, as the well as an Ebola situation can break out, or can work out,

is that it

expanded in areas where we were well received.

Americans could go in and help, right, and try to fight it.

Listen to this clip about that situation.

The United States effectively created Liberia back in the 1800s as a refuge for slaves, former slaves who were returned back to Africa.

And

the big moment when 3,000 American troops arrived, the U.S.

favorability rating in Liberia is like 99%.

It was seen as this blessed moment when the great savior had come and really was going to help turn the tide on this virus.

Imagine what happens if this virus pops up in Pakistan or Indonesia or China even,

a place where the 101st airborne would have to fight its way in before it got to fight the virus.

I mean, in the context of you talking about this, the lab and how they hid all these results, this is exactly what he was talking about, right?

There was no way for anyone else to penetrate that society to find out what the hell was actually going on.

So the rest of the world

became completely unprepared and did not deal with it.

And honestly, like this, you notice the countries that did deal with it well, like a South Korea, for example, Taiwan, are the countries that trust China the least, right?

They doubted them so strongly so early that they knew this was going to be bad, and they prepared and went crazy at the very, very beginning.

And they shut everything down, and they were testing.

They didn't shut everything down.

And some of these, they caught it early enough to be able to do the whole test and track thing.

Not all that could be done here, of course, but it's interesting to see that because it's exactly what he was talking about.

When the United States couldn't,

you know, be involved like we were in a place like Liberia,

This thing blew out of control really fast.

We thought we were involved because we had the WHO.

Yep.

And we pay the WHO far more than any other country for

its salary.

And so we thought that we would be able to trust them.

A lot of them are Americans, et cetera.

Etc.

We couldn't trust them.

They were deeply embedded with the Chinese government, and they were lying to us and lying to the rest of the world.

That's the real problem here.

Was we had really dishonest brokers.

I don't know if you saw our Secretary of State speak yesterday, but he was questioned about how is our relationship with China?

And,

you know, are we getting good information?

And, you know, how are we dealing with the fact that they appear to not have been telling us the truth?

His answer was fascinating.

He said, this isn't the time.

Look, look, this is not the time to be talking about retribution.

This is the time just to get past this and just to get accurate information.

And I thought to myself, boy, he didn't ask about retribution.

Now, did you mean recriminations?

Or was this a Freudian slip?

What?

What?

Where did you come up with the word retribution?

Because I think there is going to be some retribution here.

I think China is not going to be allowed to

use this

for positioning,

use this to become even more powerful.

I mean, what they're doing to France right now by saying, yeah, sure, we'll help you, but you have to take our 5G network.

I think that's going to backfire on China, seeing that this came from China itself.