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Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, No, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Yeah, aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.

Welcome to the podcast.

We are going to talk a little bit today about

the World Health Organization, which is basically an arm of the Chinese government at this point.

Real problems going on there, and when you don't have an authority when it comes to health that you can trust, we get into that.

We get into a little bit about the pathetic handling of

media matters and the media in general as they try to take conservatives out of context and bash them as they try to cover the the coronavirus situation.

Bill O'Reilly joins us.

He has

a lot about not only coronavirus, but what to do with yourself in the middle of this quarantine, which is pretty interesting.

Charlie Kirk also joins us.

He's got a piece on the stimulus package and kind of the wrong road we're going down.

And we have the the former sheriff that is in the show, Tiger King.

He's a listener to the program and happened to call in and wanted to give us a little update on how crazy it was being the sheriff during that whole situation.

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All right, let's get through these as quickly as we can.

Total confirmed cases now worldwide.

We are now over a million cases, up from 950,000 yesterday.

Total confirmed deaths worldwide, 54,000.

That's up from 48,000 yesterday.

12% of U.S.

confirmed cases now require hospitalization.

That is roughly on par with Italy at 12% requiring hospitalization, and lower than Spain, where it is 18% of the patients require hospitalization.

We now have 245,380 confirmed cases and 6,095 people have died.

That is up.

About 40,000 from yesterday and up 1,000 deaths from yesterday.

The White House now is going to recommend all Americans wear face masks in public.

President Trump said yesterday that they are considering a recommendation.

He says a recommendation is coming out.

I don't think it's going to be mandatory.

If people want to wear the masks, they can.

However, we shouldn't be using masks that our surgeons and our nurses and everybody else need at the hospital.

Later, somebody from the White House said that they're going to narrowly target areas with highly

community transmission.

And that's the matter that remains under discussion, whether they're going to do this for the whole country or not.

New memo from the CDC says, in light of new data, CDC recommends the community use cloth masks as additional public health measure that you can use to prevent the spread of the virus to those around.

This news comes as Laredo, Texas joins more than a dozen American cities or counties that have mandated the use of face masks for all people in public spaces such as grocery stores or shopping centers.

Violators without a face mask, at least in Laredo, face up to a thousand dollar fine.

Similar provisions are now being considered in the entire state of California, according to Gavin Newsom's

office.

Antibody tests are getting accelerated availability, unlike vaccine testing and production, which could take months, if not years.

SARS-CoV-19 antibody tests could be available in the U.S.

in just a few weeks.

Now, this could be the key to opening America back up and getting us out of our shelter in place.

If you already have an immunity to this virus, you could go back to work.

Most known coronavirus immunities, however, in humans are not permanent.

Researchers say that, you know, the flu, for example, it grants only a seasonal immunity and can be caught just a few months later.

So we have to watch this carefully.

The hospital ships.

are sitting empty.

The much-touted Navy hospital ships in New York and Los Angeles sit 95% empty as of last night.

In New York, the Comfort, a thousand beds largely unused, its 1,200-member crew almost idle.

We're waiting for the patients, one of the nurses said.

Only 20 patients have been transferred to the ship.

New York hospitals

struggling to find space for thousands of infected with the coronavirus, but they're not sending any patients over to the USS Comfort.

The Navy hospital ship, the Mercy, in Los Angeles, docked, only has 15 patients there.

Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York's largest hospital system, said, if I'm being blunt about it, this is a joke.

Everyone can say, thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening these cavernous halls, but we're in a crisis here.

We're in a battlefield.

The issue is red tape.

On top of the strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the NAFI is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions.

Guidelines disseminated to hospitals include a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship, and ambulances cannot take people directly to the comfort.

They first have to deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation, including a test for the virus, and then pick them up again for transport to the ship.

911 call centers are already massively swamped in New York.

Ambulances are not available to take non-infected persons to each ship.

Meanwhile, across New York, hospitals are overrun.

Patients have died in hallways before they can even be hooked up to one of the available ventilators in New York.

Doctors and nurses who have had to use the same protective gear again and again and again are now getting sick themselves.

So many people are dying.

The city is running low on body bags, said the head of the hospital.

The coroner's office told our administrator to start double wrapping bodies in sheets for the time being.

Let me give you a hopeful sign.

University of Pittsburgh researchers have found COVID-19 a vaccine, they say.

Scientists at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine believe they found a potential vaccine for the coronavirus.

Researchers announced their findings yesterday, believe the vaccine could be rolled out quickly enough to significantly impact the spread of disease.

The vaccine would be delivered on a small fingertip-size patch.

When tested on mice, the vaccine produced enough antibodies believed to successfully counteract the virus.

Scientists say they were available, they are able to act fast because they had already done research on similar coronavirus SARS and MERS.

Trump administration ordered the FBI to fast-track the next phase of animal trials for the experimental vaccine.

Officials warned that even if it success,

human trials and ultimate production could still be as far away as 12 to 18 months.

It's early, but it's a very positive result.

There's something going around the internet now that I want to dispel quickly, and that is up in Vermont and Maryland, people are saying now that they are making seeds to grow food illegal in stores.

Governor Phil Scott issued an executive order mandating that retailers including Walmart, Target, Costco, Ace Hardware, Home Depot cease in-person sales of non-essential items.

This makes Vermont the second state in the U.S.

to make gardening supplies non-essential.

Well, that's the problem.

The list of items deemed as non-essential includes electronics.

What?

Books?

Are you kidding me?

Furniture, sporting equipment, toys, and gardening supplies, or lawn care.

Such items could still be ordered by way of various company websites, according to the signs posted inside.

Walmart stores posted to Twitter by Walmart shoppers, and it shows that there's a ban that you can't buy seeds.

Our studios and our staff just reached out to the governor's office.

We have not heard anything officially, but we have gotten a couple of responses where they have just opened this back up.

Walmart,

as we called them, and we said, hey, what's going on?

They said it was a misinterpretation of the law, and they are now calling those Walmarts to say, remove the signs from the seeds.

You're able to buy those seeds.

Again, it is really important, really, really important that you you don't panic when you see things.

Many times it'll be a misunderstanding like this was.

Don't panic and don't feed into any of those problems.

That's your COVID-19 update.

We're going to take a quick break, stations, and then we're going to come back.

And we have the sheriff on with us

from Oklahoma City, who was the sheriff that you saw, Larry Rhodes, in Joe the Tiger King, that docuseries.

We do that in one minute.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

So, Larry Rhodes is the former Garvin County, Oklahoma Sheriff.

He was the sheriff for over eight years, and many of those years, he dealt with the now famous Joe Exotic,

who we all now know from the Tiger King.

He wrote into the show just, what, yesterday or the day before to set the record straight.

He said, Hello, Glenn Beck.

I listen regularly on KTOK AM in Oklahoma City, and I have to reach out to you about Tuesday morning's comment that the tigers were the only ones that made any sense on Netflix Tiger King.

Give me some credit.

I did my best to tell producers of the show what a constant problem the animal park was to our rural sheriff's office.

I'm the county sheriff shown in Joe Exotic DocuSeries.

Not much made sense with any part of that zoo.

I'm now retired.

Keep up the good work.

Stay safe.

I wanted to get him on

and personally tell you, Larry, I did not mean that you didn't make sense.

I felt like you were the one that was sitting there.

You were saying all the things that I was saying the whole time.

Like, this is nuts.

This is nuts.

It was nuts, Glenn.

That was eight years of my career that I won't get back.

No, I bet not.

So what point did you come into

this saga?

Where in the show's life?

Were you there when

Joe seemed to be kind of sane?

I mean, not really sane, but kind of sane at the beginning?

Or was he always there?

Actually, I was, Glenn.

I took office in late 2010, and that's where I first met,

you know, met Joe.

We would have to annually execute a contract

to deal with a protocol if some of these large cats got out.

So Joe and I early on

communicated regularly and things were pretty good at that point.

But as the zoo grew and as Joe got more exotic, so to say,

it really got out of hand.

And, you you know i might add you know toward the end of my career there as as garland county sheriff you know he was accounting for uh

most

all of our uh calls for service uh in that immediate area of the county shut up really

yeah oh yeah it's uh it was uh it was a week i had deputies uh at that park almost on a weekly basis uh

If it wasn't an external call for service away from the park causing us to respond and to investigate at the park, it was something internally.

And, you know, we had some pretty major cases as well at the park.

Like, what do we not know?

What did they not show us?

Well, the producers didn't show you quite a bit.

You know, if you can imagine, those producers worked on that documentary, I think, four to five years.

There are so many stories and backstories that,

you know, those watching the Netflix series, they didn't see.

I mean, just,

and I'm not talking routine stuff.

You know, for instance,

you saw on one episode where

that EF4 tornado, it showed Joe talking about that tornado, and it was heading directly toward the park.

And I can remember I was responding to the area that was hardest hit by that tornado, And I was on the radio telling deputies, get to the park.

It is on a straight path toward the animal park.

And I was given directions, you know, don't let any one of those big cats out.

You know, we'll have a larger problem than

what we were dealing with.

And but, you know, at the last minute, that tornado, you know, took a turn to the

more to the east, due east.

And

but just little stories like that.

But

we had

people,

there were people on each extreme of the animal rights and

the exotic cat ownership

debate.

And

my office was, go ahead.

I'm just wondering if there was anyone sane.

I mean, it seems like every single person, there's that one guy who's from Oklahoma that kind of looks like an orangutan.

A guy runs an exotic.

He ran the exotic bird thing or whatever.

He was the guy who was the

tried to

he did the entrapment, or not the entrapment, but he did the spying there for the FBI at the end.

My point of my email to you was at least show somebody sane.

And even the producers said, you know, we've got to have some sanity in this docuseries.

So, Sheriff, can we talk to you?

I said, well, absolutely.

Right, but I mean, outside, I mean, in the big cat world, they all seem nuts.

They all seem nuts.

And I never knew that until I became sheriff.

And some of it was that Joe would, you know, he would hire and pay just you know, just pennies for people to work there.

And many people volunteered because that was their passion.

So, as you can imagine, the people that were attracted to work or hang around a zoo,

you know,

they were people that,

you know, thought, had extreme thoughts

and maybe didn't have much else going for them,

and therefore they were at the zoo working or,

you know, feeling like that was their place in the big cat world.

You know, I can see that.

They're seeing them.

Go

what also led to this, Glenn, was I can remember times Joe would come to my jail and try to bond people out because he needed workers at the zoo.

You know,

he'd be back there looking at the jail list and, hey, I could use this person

or this, you know,

transitory person, and he'd bring them out to the zoo and put them to work.

So that's what you got, you know.

So it seemed like there was a plethora of drugs there.

Were you having to fight

a drug ring there?

Did you guys know that that was as prevalent

or was it?

It was prevalent.

We knew it's prevalent

on the park and

with some of the

workers that were around the park,

just as portrayed

in that docuseries, tiger king there were drugs around that park again it uh just what i spoke to uh some of the people that uh were attracted to that park um you know that was the lifestyle they led uh that was the environment they lived in and uh i wouldn't characterize it as a drug reen i mean it wasn't uh glenn it wasn't any

it wasn't any bigger of a problem.

The drugs weren't in any other part in rural America right now with Matthews and addiction problems

we're having.

Do you think that Joe,

in his own way, was a cult leader?

I wouldn't characterize him as a cult leader.

He certainly had a lot of influence over people,

workers, people who came to the park and would want to

donate and maybe sponsor the animals that he kept at at the zoo.

You know, he had a lot of influence over people in that sense.

But as far as the cult,

you know,

most everyone at that park didn't stay there very long.

There were a few exceptions, and those are the ones that were shown on the show that stayed there year after year.

But, you know,

we would get a call for service, Glenn.

I'm just telling stories here.

We'd go out there and we'd conduct an investigation.

We would try to go back and conduct a follow-up investigation.

That person would be gone.

They would be off to another state, never to be seen in Garvin County again.

It was

so, you know, court-like, I didn't see that closed

community.

It was a public park.

Okay.

Yeah.

Larry, thank you so much for calling in.

And I'm glad I didn't have to live your life.

But

what an amazing story it is.

Thank you very much.

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How you doing, Bill?

Good.

How you guys feeling?

Are you feeling strong?

Yeah, I'm feeling strong.

Feeling good.

Yeah.

Feeling good.

After that good night's sleep with the

dopey pillow, you got your RA?

Yeah, yeah, with the dopey pillow.

You know, I don't know why.

I don't know why some of my favorite people, and I know you hated him, but

are like Don Imus and Bill O'Reilly, both just cantankerous, just,

just

everybody else.

They don't get you.

I'm in Imus' category.

I'm so much better looking than he is.

I mean, come on, it's not even.

Well, especially now.

I don't know if you've seen him.

He's gone downhill.

But anyway, Bill, tell me what your thoughts are on, first of all, how New York is handling this.

What's it like to be in New York?

What's really going on there?

Well, on Long Island, a suburb east of New York, there really isn't anything to report.

People are behaving.

They're staying inside.

Not a lot of traffic.

The food places are open.

The service is good.

There's plenty of food.

Actually, more food than there would ordinarily be because people aren't staying in and they're barbecuing and making tuna sandwiches or whatever they they do.

As far as the city is concerned, I haven't been in there in about a month.

I do talk to friends in there every day.

There is a little menace on the street as the crazy people who you can't control, they go out

and there's not a lot of supervision of them.

I think that's a story the local media is not reporting because the local media is not out on the street.

The local media has kind of disappeared.

So you've got to be careful in New York.

There are people wandering around who are not good.

They will hurt you.

And you're not saying that this is necessarily just criminals, but there are also

mentally imbalanced people.

Right.

So the NYPD is,

as in my lifetime, always been,

heroic.

They have a lot of cases in there, but they still go to the precinct houses and they're in the cars they're supervising what happens as best they can.

The EMS people, that is the untold story.

They're working round the clock,

taking people to the hospitals and without a break, double shifts.

Yeah, they're all geared up, but still, you know, this is one of the most contagious diseases the planet has ever seen.

And that's the real crux of this matter, how contagious it is, not how lethal.

3% are going to die

of people who acquire it, but it's so contagious and so undefined.

Is the mask going to help us?

My son was telling me, well, you can't touch cardboard.

I said, well, if that's true, I would have been dead five weeks ago.

So there's a lot of mythology around, a lot of misinformation, a lot of cowardly reporting, misreporting, political reporting.

It's a mess, whether you're in Long Island, New York City, or down in Texas Texas where you guys are.

All right.

So, Bill, there is

a real debate going on right now.

I don't think we can argue that this is dangerous.

The numbers, if they just continue at the pace that they're at today, it will become the most deadly

virus of the last hundred years.

I mean, it is really,

it looks like it's going to be bad.

If they just stay on pace and don't exponentially grow, by the end of next month, it will be bad.

And I think we've done a lot to contain it.

But the real debate here is, is the cure worse than the virus?

You know, Dama, I've heard this on television mostly.

And I'm sitting here and I'm going, look, if you're in a zone where there are a lot of people ill,

you're not going to be able to cherry-pick

what you do.

You're not.

Now, if you live in the Dakotas or Wyoming or Nebraska or places that have not been impacted, you should go about your daily life.

And that's the local authorities.

You should follow their lead.

It's not a one-size-fits-all.

But these commentators who are saying, well, you know, let the old people stay inside.

The rest of us will go out.

You're insane.

I mean, it's way too contagious.

So we're going to have to all sit down for two months.

That's what it did in China.

Now I don't believe China at all, but there is independent reporting that the virus is on the decline in China where it originated.

So I think we're going to have to do the same thing here.

And by May, you'll see the stats down, and then the local people will decide who can do what.

But to say, well, it's not worth it.

We're losing too many jobs, I think that's fallacious.

I really think that's dangerous reporting, and you're hearing it.

So, Bill,

I think that we need to keep the country closed, but there is a point to where you don't just fire these engines back up.

I don't know where that is.

I don't know if you know Stephen Moore, the economist, but he is a good,

yeah, he's a good friend.

He's always very optimistic.

He got off the phone.

He was supposed to be on with me at this time a couple of days ago, and he got called into a meeting at the White House and said, I'll call you right back.

I'll call you next hour if I can get out of the meeting.

And so he had no time to process, and he was right on the air.

And I've never heard him like this.

He's like, this is just catastrophic, what is coming.

How do we balance that?

Well, first of all, speculation doesn't help anybody.

And I was critical of Fauci,

the doctor, because he's going, well, I might come back in the fall.

Hey, that doesn't do us any good, Doc, okay?

No.

You know, it doesn't.

All right, so you don't need to say that.

And number two,

hang on, hang on, hang on.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speculation,

speculation isn't good, but being able to get people prepared for

possibilities for it, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid people are going to think.

Right, but I think people on when it's coming back, I think people saying, oh, well, okay, we're past it.

If they're not aware that it might come come back in fall,

it will be it, you know, people have to understand that that the second wave of Spanish flu, it did come back and it was worse than the first.

It doesn't mean it's going to happen this time, but you do have to be aware of it it could come back.

I I I disagree vehemently unless you have data to back it up.

I'm sure you're aware at the University of Pittsburgh, they're now going into human trials on a medicine that will abruptly stop the pandemic.

So we're going to live in a totally different country in September than we're living in in April.

The whole country is going to be different in September.

And none of us know how that's going to shake.

So I don't need Fauci

telling me this might happen, it could have, it would have.

You just put out there, this is what we're doing, this is what the data says, and then in July or August, if you see a trend up, then you say, yeah, okay, everybody.

But to scare people, and people are absolutely frightened.

I mean, they are crazed, some of them.

Not me, because if I die, we're probably all better off.

But most people.

Most people are frightened.

I mean, it's debatable.

I mean, you make a good point.

You do make a good point with a lot of facts and data points to back that up.

But I don't want to speculate.

I don't want to speculate.

Look, there are two prongs to this reportage.

And I can't tell you how the U.S.

press, the journalism industry in America, is letting down every single American.

You would think they would rise to the occasion and put aside all the hatred, bias, and lies and just report the truth or try to get the truth.

You would think think that that might happen.

And I will give you, I know we are up against a break, but I'll give you a really vivid example of a mass lie being reported by the American press.

A mass lie.

And there's no one to rebut it, Beck.

There's no one to combat it.

And this is so dangerous.

So that's one prong of the disease reportage.

The other is

people don't know what's true.

They don't know whether to wear a mask.

They don't know whether to dress up.

I got my daughter.

They don't know whether to.

Bill, they don't know whether or not to wear a mask.

Yes, they should wear a mask.

They don't know.

Some people say,

you know why they don't know?

Some people say, no, you don't have to.

It's all.

Do you know why they don't know?

They don't know because the combination of those in the government and mainly in the media that just don't trust the American people with information said, we're going to have a shortage of masks.

Tell people that they don't need those masks.

They need them at the hospital.

They won't work for them.

Of course, they'll work for them if they're working for the doctors.

Trust the American people and give them the information.

They'll do the right thing.

They'll do the right thing.

If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask if you can get one, okay?

But there isn't any definitive, if you wear the mask, you're not going to get it.

All right?

So, don't think if you're wearing a mask, you're not going to get it because you.

Correct, yes.

All right?

The mask is basically for people who think they're sick.

So, it's harder to spread if you cough because you've got a barrier in front of your mouth.

But this is ill-defined, Bec.

The press does not define any of this.

They use it to try to hurt people they want destroyed.

They use it

in all of the pandemic to try to destroy people.

and it's so bad.

Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other.

When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a four-litre jug.

When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.

Oh, come on.

They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia Trip Planner to collaborate on all the details of their trip.

Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool.

Whatever.

You were made to outdo your holidays.

We were made to help organize the competition.

Expedia, made to travel.