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Today on the program we talk about the profiles and courage Elizabeth Warren.

Just an incredible, incredibly brave moment as she tries to figure out what she should do now that she's no longer running for president, dealing with the Chinese virus controversy.

We get into that as well.

Pat Gray joins us.

We have Bill O'Reilly.

Who is on for the hour to tell us the best things and the worst things about the media coverage going on and how is this going to affect the re-election of Donald Trump.

And we talked to a Reverend who was told he was not allowed to hold church because of coronavirus.

He's going to wind up doing it anyway.

We'll talk to him about his reasoning there as well.

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It's Friday, so I asked Pat to join us a little early because I've just got a few things that

Pat, I can't take it anymore.

I just, I can't take it anymore.

i can't take

i can't i can't i just can't i watch the news and it's like not do these people have lives at all do they i mean i don't get it what's happening i mean that you could be talking about so many different things

what specifically are you referring to

is it the is it the china virus thing

well i think they have a point on the china virus thing oh you do

i do i do i think that's really i mean well i didn't when he was just calling it the China virus because he hadn't been calling it the China virus.

He's only calling it the China virus because he knows it pisses them off.

That's why, right?

And I think because China's trying to blame us for it, and he resents that a lot.

Correct.

And so do I.

Correct.

So do I.

Yes, so do I.

This is China propaganda.

However, I mean, I thought yesterday, did you see the press conference yesterday when he walked out?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, usually the president will have bum bum ba bum bum ba when he walks out and i did think it was a little over the top when he walked out to uh he walked out to this uh music do we have that from the press conference

i thought

gaina

i thought

this was

you know to have the marine band play this as he walks out i thought

he's just trolling the media at this point you know that's all he's

All right, stop.

That's so offensive.

That was way over the top.

It's way over the top for him to do.

And

then when he went out,

it is Chinese, if you please.

I thought that's beneath the president.

It's just beneath the president to do.

Well, he's a businessman.

So

I think that that makes it okay.

He's a businessman.

Well, no, the Asian lobby is pretty powerful.

I mean, they'll go after his businesses.

Yeah.

You know?

And I thought, boy,

he doesn't care.

He just doesn't care to have that played behind him when he walked out.

So I was for him, you know, because I thought he was making a point.

And then when he did that, I was like, that's just racist.

You know what I mean?

It does seem a little over the top.

Yeah.

I mean, I get the point that he's making because he really, for weeks, was calling it like the coronavirus.

And then

until they started complaining about it, then he's now crossing it off on his speeches and writing in the word Chinese.

Seriously, I have no problem calling it the COVID virus, COVID-19, blah, blah, blah.

But this is crazy.

This is Chinese propaganda.

This is what they're this is what they're trying to do.

And our press is picking right up on it.

So it's not anti-China.

I don't have a problem with Chinese people,

with people who are Asian.

I have no problem with that.

No problem.

What's really, really disturbing is how we are being forced to change this when MERS is Middle Eastern

respiratory.

Okay, that's what MERS is.

The swine flu, how do you think pigs feel about that?

The Spanish flu.

We've always done this.

Always done this.

West Nile virus.

That's how you identify these things.

This is Chinese propaganda.

And our president is just standing up against the press because the press is doing the job of the Chinese Communist Party.

It's craziness.

It's craziness.

So I, for one, I mean, I really kind of want, I want to go overboard

and make a real, I mean,

did you hear what he walked out on yesterday it was it was real i thought this was just

giant uh

i thought especially they didn't even have the right instruments they were playing it on kettles and the back of white house pots and i thought this is too far

but stop uh but i i

i mean part of me just wants to just rub it in their face.

Because I'm so sick of it, man.

I am so sick of it.

It has nothing to do with race, has nothing to do with China, has everything to do with communist disinformation.

Yeah, and it would be one thing, too, if the media was approaching it like this.

Hey, when this all started, we were all calling it Wuhan flu or Wuhan virus.

That was the name we all had.

But now, you know, look, they've given it an official name, and we think it's the appropriate thing to call it.

Like, I would still say we need to make sure we point out what the Chinese government has done because it's a really crucial part of the story.

However, like, it would at least be an understandable line of thinking.

Instead, what they're saying is completely denying that they ever said it and not even acknowledging it, right?

And then just coming out and saying it's automatically and obviously racist for anyone to use it at any time.

And denying all the reality of naming every other bad disease we've had from German measles on.

I have to tell you, this is not about racism at all.

This is about reality.

This is all about reality.

First of all, what kind of sweet ass world do you live in where this is your biggest problem?

I mean, the media think of their life.

This is what they're talking about.

There's a report out today.

Let me look it up.

There's a report out today that says some incredible,

incredible number here.

Let me look.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Okay, Bank of America says recession is already here.

There's a story, I don't know where it is right now,

that a large percentage of our small businesses will be out of business in 45 days.

And we're arguing about that?

Seriously?

This is your biggest problem?

It just shows the media is so far out of touch.

I'm telling you,

this is the beginning of the end for them.

They've already discredited themselves so much, but all of these politicians did.

Well, except for Elizabeth Warren,

she did something very brave.

I don't know if you guys know this, but she was very, very brave.

In fact, do we have the profiles of Courage Music?

Could we please...

Because this was.

You know, sometimes I think of Elizabeth Warren and I think to myself, it is, it is,

it's about damn time that we have a Native American who steps to the plate and leads the way.

I mean, this was her people's home long before we came.

Yesterday,

Elizabeth Warren...

She did something that not a lot of people are willing to do.

She did something that, oh yeah, you can mock it, you can make fun of it all you want.

You could stand around and not say anything about it.

But this proud Native American that sometimes is caught off the side of the highway with just a tear rolling down her cheek, looking at the litter, what has happened?

What has happened to my country?

And dare I say it, not only what, but

how?

Yes, this proud Native American who's never used

another race to further herself or her career.

No, no,

no.

Yesterday she said enough!

Enough!

So she took to Twitter after Trump was on that Twitter machine explaining why he signed the Defense Protection Act, which should increase the production of medical equipment needed to combat the outbreak.

But, oh no, she didn't concentrate on that.

No!

no,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ventilators, breathing machines, whatever.

Can we talk about the real problem?

Because when he took to Twitter, he said, I only signed the Defense Protection Act to combat the Chinese virus.

And we should invoke it in the worst-case scenario in the future.

Hopefully, there will be no need.

But we're all in this together.

No, that's when this proud Native American, first American, if I may, stood up or sat down, whatever, she got on Twitter.

She said, President Trump, are your eyes stitched shut?

Hospitals need test kits, ventilators, and other medical supplies.

That's why the DPA exists.

Stop dragging your feet and burying your head and start helping hospitals that are about to be slammed by this pandemic.

But

she blurred out the word Chinese.

Yes, that's what she did.

She blurred the word Chinese out of her, quote, quote, tweet of Trump.

When someone like Elizabeth Warren stands against all odds in the face of the crashing waters,

she stands there, there on the point, there at the peak, looking down at all of us.

Says, I'm not afraid.

I'm going to blur the word Chinese.

And she puts it all into perspective.

It's not about some virus.

It's not about some ventilators.

It's really about

racism.

And

I think it's high time, America, that we all look deep inside of ourselves.

Yeah, that white part of you.

And say,

what can we learn from this proud Native American, Elizabeth Warren?

I think we can learn an awful lot.

What can we do?

What can we not do because of Elizabeth Warren?

I, for one,

I'm gonna blur.

I'm gonna blur every every time I see the word Chinese, I'm gonna blur it.

Blur it in my mind, spray paint it out.

I'm not having Chinese food.

I'm not going to a Chinese restaurant.

I'm just going to a plain old restaurant when they reopen.

I'm just going to eat plain old food.

Yeah,

Chinese food?

No, I'm having American food.

That's what I'm having.

Yeah, sure.

It might have a side of bat soup,

but that's a good old American recipe.

Unless it becomes offensive to say that, then, of course, it's back to Chinese food.

Not sure how we're going to play this game all the way out, but that's who she is.

Elizabeth Warren.

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Mr.

Bill O'Reilly.

You're quarantined.

You quarantine.

And will people actually deliver things to to your house because they must know

they must be like why would they change now?

Right, okay.

I was gonna say, you're like the guy, you were the guy in the in the get off my lawn, you kids, and they're 45-year-old men.

That's you.

You're the guy who, even when you were 20, was the old guy in the neighborhood shouting at kids, weren't you?

Thank you, Beck.

You're so kind.

This is like the

Adams family house here.

Okay, so nobody ever comes, and I wouldn't know if I was quarantined or not.

This is

the okay.

Nobody comes to visit you.

But I have a giant bazooka in case Bette Middler shows up.

So what I'd like to.

What?

Go ahead.

The dumbest statement.

No, no, go.

The dumbest statement.

I'm keeping lists now of all the pandemic occurrences.

I have lists, about 50 of them.

And I've got the dumbest statement list.

All right.

Bett Midler.

Bette Midler tweeted

that

she believes President Trump is lying about not having the coronavirus because he's lied 16,500 times before.

Bet

Midler.

Now,

stop that?

Can anyone stop that?

That's dumbest.

Well, all of the people who are saying that Donald Trump is a racist by calling this the China virus, he doesn't have a problem calling it COVID.

He's trolling them.

He's trolling them, and they don't get it.

That's not bet

she wins.

So I got all the lists, and just tell me, Beck, what you are interested in in this pandemic.

And I will tell you

what really is happening.

and this is what we do on billorilly.com which is far and away the blaze is good I understand but this is if you're interested in protecting you and your family you got to go to my website go ahead all right so so Bill here's what I would like to know and this is and I know you don't like to make personal comments or you know anything like that but I'd like I'd like to know where are you on the scale of

Please, this is nothing we're overreacting to, my gosh, we're all going to die.

Where are you on that scale?

I

understand

the danger to the public.

All right?

So, when you have a virus that's invisible and spreads quickly through airborne, which means droplets in the air, you have to take extraordinary measures.

You have to.

All right, that's where you start.

You start there.

Now, what are the extraordinary measures?

So, just this morning, I got up, I went went out, I filled my car up with gasoline, okay, so I have a full tank.

I went to the dog food place

because I don't want the dog to starve.

And the dog, Beck, you're not going to believe this, but the dog does not know how to open cans on her own.

She can't.

My dog does.

My dog does.

My dog looks at the can, can't figure out how to open it.

So I get the dog food for the next three weeks, so I don't have to worry about the dog.

Then I go to Walgreens,

all right, to get a birthday card because birthdays don't stop in the middle of the pandemic.

I get the card.

You know you can do all this online.

Go ahead.

Yeah, you see the guys.

That's ridiculous.

I see my guy from Walgreen.

I wave to him.

I go, got any toilet paper?

No, we won't have any until the year 2030.

I said, okay, good.

Got it.

And goodbye.

Then I go to the bagel place.

All right.

And I get a couple of bagels.

And then I come home to talk to you.

So that's exactly what I did.

And then when I came home, I washed up.

I did wash up because I had the gas nozzle.

I had the Walgreens door.

So I washed up.

I washed up nice.

And now I'm clean talking to you.

Right, okay.

So

you're just saying

I'm not really changing anything in my life.

You know, are you still going out to eat and things like that?

Or can you even in Long Island?

You can't do that in New York.

You can't go to the restaurant.

You can do takeout.

And since I don't know how to cook,

I got to do takeout or I die.

Got it.

So takeout is all right.

I talked to my doctor.

I said, is there any danger of

the takeout?

And, you know,

look, it's so remote that you know if you want to starve yourself go ahead but I would eat the takeout which is what I'm doing

so look otherwise you have to eat you might have to eat the dark large question though is an important question for all Americans listening today

so you you're in the middle of this thing it's it's there there is fault here and we'll get to that I hope a little bit later on whose fault this is because there is fault.

But no one can do anything about it.

So de Blasio, the mayor of New York City, comes out and says, oh, I want the military in the city.

This is what he says today.

And I support that as long as they arrest de Blasio.

If the military is going to arrest them,

I support that.

I think they'd like to.

I think they'd like to.

Now, there are 4,000 cases in a city of 8.5 million.

All right?

4,000 cases.

There will be more.

All right.

And then you've got a packed city.

I don't live in the city.

I live 20 miles outside the city.

You've got to pack.

That's far enough.

People live on one another.

So that's a dangerous situation.

It is.

You've got to be careful.

But California.

That city will...

People don't have any idea how dangerous that city is.

You have 8 million people living in a very small area.

Yeah.

And nobody has food.

You don't store food there.

You just go get it.

If everything's closed, that city is a ticking time bomb.

The National Guard should be closed.

It isn't closed.

Look, closed is California.

And this gets me.

Oh, we want you to shelter in place.

You know, that is the most annoying phrase.

It's worse than at the end of the day.

Shelter in place.

It's just annoying.

It's San Francisco annoying.

All right?

All right, all right.

Stay in the house.

Stay in the house.

I don't want to say shelter in place.

Right, okay.

All right.

Okay.

So, what are your thoughts on the government coming out?

Not the government, the state governments coming out and saying you must close your business in Oklahoma, of all places.

They're telling people to call the state government and report if anyone is still doing business.

You don't have a right to do that.

What are your thoughts on that?

Additionally,

and I looked this up because billorilly.com does this,

all the precedents of the legal rulings always put public safety ahead of constitutional rights.

Thereby,

politicians have the right to declare martial law.

They have a right to quarantine.

They have a right to stop people coming and going.

Do you realize there's a county, a beautiful county, in Colorado, San Miguel County, that's Telluride, 8,000 people.

You can't go there.

They will stop you.

They don't want anyone coming into the county at all.

No human beings can come in.

Now, that's clearly unconstitutional.

But if you challenge it, number one, the judges wouldn't show up to hear it because they're all in the basement hiding.

And number two, you would lose on public safety.

So that's what's happening.

So are you concerned at all about any of the constitutional rights?

Like, for instance, there's only one guy in Washington, D.C.

that is an FFL dealer, a guy who can sell guns.

Only one.

Because apparently years ago,

the city screwed him, and so they made him some stupid promise that you're going to be the only one that could sell guns.

Well, he won't sell guns now.

I mean, how do you feel about things like that?

Long run.

And I'm always a long run guy.

I think this is over by June.

All right.

I could be wrong on that, and maybe I'm irresponsible putting forth that opinion.

But if I'm looking at what happened to China, and China is totalitarian, so they just shut Wuhan province down.

Talk about nobody in, nobody out.

I mean, the Army just shut it down.

Well, they don't have many new cases over there in the whole country.

So it looks to me like this is a two-month ordeal

if we

are prudent.

And we are.

Americans are prudent.

I mean, you don't have a lot of people outside of the spring break, idiots

doing irresponsible stuff.

So I see it abating or dissipating around Memorial Day.

But the Second Amendment is stronger, will emerge stronger, way much, much, much stronger than it was before the pandemic.

And there are a lot of things like that.

All right?

The financial community is going to be in a little trouble.

People are going to reevaluate whether they buy stocks.

So you buy stocks, you hold on, they go up for three, four years, you're happy, and in one day it's gone.

You got to think about that.

So I want to, you know, I want to start that.

We're going to take a quick break, and then I want to come back to that because there's some real problems, Bill, that I don't know how you combat.

And how do you, I mean, what's the world look like?

We're doing this for three months from now.

Most small businesses have about 45 days of survival.

How do you help them?

What is the world going to look like

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do these state governments have the right

to tell you what to do and not to do and they can make real strong recommendations but especially when it comes to your first amendment don't you have a right to congregate?

Don't you have a right to come together?

Now,

when you look at this uh the state always seems to win in the courts uh to be able to say no it's for public health but where does that right begin and end

well there is one pastor he is the pastor of life tabernacle church uh he's in baton rouge and he is defying the uh governor uh his name is reverend tony spell and he is on the phone with us now

Reverend, how are you, sir?

Better than I deserve.

How are you, Glenn?

I'm good.

So now tell me what exactly is is happening there with your church.

What is happening is

we have continued to assemble since the governor's orders last week.

Sunday morning, I had 1,170 people in attendance.

We ran 27 Sunday school buses that reach

the

impoverished areas of our city.

We bring those children to our churches.

We picked up 643 children last week.

We feed everyone a breakfast.

We teach them the Word of God.

Then we have recreation and pray over everybody.

And we do that on a weekly basis.

This is important, I would imagine, Tony, because it's an impoverished area.

And there's a lot of children now.

If you're not going to school, you're not getting breakfast.

You may not get lunch.

And so you're providing food.

But the governor doesn't like that.

And there's a controversy, I guess, in the press on whether they sent the National Guard to shut you down or not.

National Guard said, no, we have nothing to do with that.

Can you tell me what happened?

What happened was Sunday morning, of course, we had a parking lot full of people.

So a reporter came by and then Tuesday asked if we were having service again.

So she came.

U.S.

Representative Woody Jenkins live streams my service with over 100,000 viewers.

At that point,

Central Police

Department showed up on my front porch.

I want to clarify what happened with that later if I could.

And a statement was made that the National Guard would be deployed to disband groups of 50 or more.

I prayed over that individual.

I gave him an anointed cloth,

and I respected what he was doing.

And I said,

you're doing your job.

We're doing our job as a church.

Within 12 hours, I had the governor's office meet with me in my office here at my church.

Also,

members of Washington that are connected with the White House have also reached out to me.

And the whole tenure has changed somewhat as far as the

you know the being persecuted for the faith.

However,

I guess some of our greatest persecution right now is coming from

other people that are asking us to stop having our services, which we hold as a conviction and we will not stop having our services.

So

what happened at the

what happened with the phone calls and the visit from the governor?

What were they saying?

What did the White House say to you?

They said, Reverend, we're not asking you to close your doors.

What can we do?

to accommodate you.

I said, there are no guidelines.

If I go across the border three hours, there's thousands of people gathering on beaches.

If I go five miles up the road,

Walmart, Target are still assembling because they're quote-unquote essential parts of our community, which is what's not being said is speaking volumes.

That's saying the church is a non-essential part of our community.

And I believe that we are more essential to our community.

I've had

two teenage girls attempt suicide this week because their parents have lost their jobs.

They're not in school.

It's a time of peril and distress.

So basically, they said, Reverend, we know you're going to keep your doors open.

We just ask that you comply with it, with whatever restrictions are set in place.

And

the scripture that's really being posed to me from the brethren is Romans 13, which

the governing body and my governing body is the word of God, which says, Do not forsake the assembling of yourself together.

Matthew 18, 20, gather together.

And I don't have the ability to live stream.

The majority of my people that I minister to do not have internet.

They count on me on a weekly basis for spiritual guidance, prayer,

healing, and

preaching and prophecy.

So

where we stand now is we are going to have service Sunday morning.

I have people as far as Washington State, Alabama, California who are coming to my service to stand in solidarity with us.

During the President's address yesterday when the Surgeon General spoke,

The Lord quickened me when he spoke of the blood bank shortage.

We're also having a blood drive drive on my premises because our blood banks are desperately empty right now.

I'm feeding my restaurant owners and my church have closed their doors under the government mandate.

They're losing their food right now.

They're losing their business.

I told them that

I would financially support them to feed everybody that comes to my service.

And this is what our ministry is in our city.

So, Reverend, I think, I mean, you are in a really tough situation.

And this is not like one of those,

you know, this is not one of those rich churches,

et cetera, et cetera.

You are, you sound, I don't know anything about your church or anything, but what you've just told me, you sound like you're really trying to help the community.

And you do have a right to do that, and you have a responsibility to do that.

When it comes to the services,

go ahead.

No, I have a God-given obligation to

regardless of the laws that are mandated to me by my governor.

Now,

are you going to take measures to keep people, because there are people that just don't think that this is deadly at all.

And

are you one of those people?

No, sir.

I've assured our state officials and national officials, I'll take whatever measures are necessary.

Which measures are those?

I was informed by

medical staff yesterday, stop using hand sanitizer.

That makes you more susceptible to this virus.

And

we've got a nation that's on a hand sanitizer craze right now, and that's not helping.

It's hurting.

So what do I do?

There's diverse weights, and there are false balances in our society right now.

There's one against the church, and there's one for commerce, and that's what our argument is.

So,

precautionary measures, yes.

Last Sunday, your sermon was a sermon about not giving into fear.

What is your sermon about this Sunday?

This Sunday,

I'm

taking two texts, Luke 21,

when men's hearts are failing them for fear, don't look down, don't look around, look up.

Let's look to God in these times of peril.

Daniel, the third chapter, I'm going to talk about three stiff-legged boys

among a generation of weak-kneed people who bowed and who bent under the tyrannical rule of King Nebuchadnezzar, who said, do not worship any other God but me.

And those three boys stood.

I feel that this is

Christianity's finest hour to stand.

And let's do not lose our freedoms for gathering together.

So that's my sermon is to keep standing.

And let's do not live in fear.

God has not given us a spirit of fear, Glenn, but a power of rather sound mind.

And in an hour where children are home from school, parents have no daycare, their daycares are closed, parents have lost their jobs, dental workers in my church are forbidden to go to work, they have no money.

The last stable

institution in their life is the church.

And

how long can we keep our doors closed?

We refuse to close our doors.

Reverend, I have to tell you,

I don't know how this is all going to play out,

you know, but I applaud you for

your conviction.

I'm not sure what I would do if I were in your situation, but I, you know, I'm not the one getting the guidance.

That's your calling and your keys.

And I appreciate the fact that you're standing up for your community and your right.

I just,

I pray and I wish you great luck, success, and safety for all people that would be coming your way.

I don't know what I would do in your situation.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

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