A Glimmer of Hope | Guests: Matt Walsh & Gregory Rigano | 3/19/20
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Yes.
Thrilled.
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All right, so I got some good news.
I got some really good news.
According to scientists now out of London, some really good.
How are things going in your house right now?
Because we haven't had a meltdown.
Uh-uh.
No.
The kids haven't said, I can't do this.
Oh, yeah, really.
It's been four days.
Wait to see what you can actually do.
Anyway,
we're trying to flatten the curve.
That's what everybody's trying to do.
We're imposing social distancing to slow the spread of the virus so the number of people sick doesn't cause the health care system to collapse as it's threatening to do in Italy and elsewhere right now.
That means the pandemic needs to last at a low level until either enough people have had COVID-19 to leave most immune, assuming that our immune system actually will leave a marker in us to say, oh, I recognize that.
I can fight that.
Last night I had an expert on said that she's 99% sure that this is going to happen, that we are going to have those markers in us.
But
we don't know yet.
We don't know.
This is going to last until we either get those markers in us or until there's a vaccine.
So how long
will that take?
How draconian are things going to have to get?
All right.
We've been told that it'll be just a couple of weeks.
We're just going to do this for a couple of weeks.
And I've been telling you,
nope, that's not it.
We're not going to be doing this for a couple of weeks.
We're going to be doing this for a long time.
Plan on eight weeks is what I said.
Well, scientists in London have just come out with some new numbers.
According to a report yesterday, as long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can keep reoccurring without stringent controls to contain them.
In the report yesterday, researchers at the Imperial College of London proposed a way of doing this.
Impose more extreme social distancing measures every time the admissions to intensive health care units start to spike.
Then relax them when they start to fall.
Every time they rise above a threshold, let's just say, for example, 100 per week the country would have to close all schools and most universities and adopt social distancing when they drop below 50 those measures can be lifted but people with symptoms or whose family members have symptoms would still be confined at home now
social distancing something that we had never heard but we're used to now all of these new words and phrases just being thrown at us what is social distancing researchers define it as all households reduce contact outside of the household, school, or workplace by at least 75%.
Now, that doesn't mean that you don't go out with your friends once a week instead of four times.
Really?
Is that what you got, Stu?
Are you getting that from social distancing that, ah, you know, but Fridays are different?
No, apparently not.
That's not allowed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
It means everyone does everything they can to minimize social contact, and overall, the number of contacts fall by 75%.
Under this model, the researchers conclude social distancing and school closures would need to be in force
some two-thirds
of the time,
roughly two months on, one month off, until a vaccine is available.
They say that will take at least 18 months.
Now,
I don't know about you,
but my kids are already starting to social distance themselves from me.
And
I can't imagine being locked in the house for 18 months.
I don't think that's something that we will accept, frankly.
I mean, that is the type of thing that we will just
say no.
We will just.
I may read the rest of this?
Yes, I know.
I know.
I know.
May I read the rest of this crappy missive?
Yeah.
So surely there has to be some other options.
Why not just build a whole buttload of ICUs?
Well, it doesn't work.
The researchers model, that didn't solve the problem.
Without social distancing of the whole population, they found even the best mitigation strategy, which means isolation or quarantine of the sick, the old, and those who have been exposed, plus school closures, would still lead to a surge of critically ill people eight times bigger than the U.S.
or U.K.
system can cope with.
So
even if you set factories out to just churn out ventilators and beds and ICU farms, you still need more nurses and doctors to take care of everybody, and we just don't have that.
In all scenarios, without widespread social distancing, the number of COVID cases overwhelms the healthcare system.
Okay,
all right.
How about just restrictions for one batch of five months?
Nope, not good.
Once measures are lifted, the pandemic breaks out all over again.
This time it's in winter, the worst time for the healthcare system.
Now,
I'm
as I'm looking at this, isn't this, Stu, exactly what
China is doing right now?
Isn't China in the midst of releasing the herds back out into the wilderness.
Yeah, so we're going to see whether this works or not because China's basically experimenting with it right now as we speak.
And the big news yesterday was supposedly, again, if you believe China's numbers and what they're telling us, supposedly China.
China even used the word.
You racists don't even use the word China on this program.
But the numbers are coming from China.
China.
Oh, my gosh.
They're coming from China.
All right, anyway, what did they find?
What they found was zero cases for the first time since this this started of community spread.
So that means they did have 34 new cases, but all 34 were people traveling into China from other areas, which might be another thing they may want to consider stopping.
And also, why would you go to China at this point?
This is not a good.
I know.
It's like...
Oh, man, the savings, the savings of seeing the Great Wall of China, and maybe me and the family could be buried inside the wall.
It'd be great.
Okay, so this,
what I don't understand is why we're being told, and I, you know, and I
asked the doctor on our special last night, and I don't feel like I got a great answer.
Why is it that China is releasing people and they're not experiencing this?
Why is it that China
stopped this dead in its tracks with a lot more people that already had it.
Ours are all just projections.
You know what, Stu, look into this.
I'll bet you the people who are doing the modeling on this thing are the same people who are telling us about global warming.
But
yeah,
why is it when we have an actual country where we had thousands and thousands and thousands of people infected, why didn't we have 100,000 deaths in China?
But we're supposed to have them here.
It doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, especially when you think of the Chinese lifestyle, right, is giant, massive cities
where people are packed into very tight areas, working very closely.
And nobody blinks when you say, I don't know,
yeah, throw that bat in that soup.
Nobody blinks.
Yeah.
It's not, it's, it's not, it's not a healthy lifestyle in many ways.
Yeah, especially for this type of thing.
For this type of thing, I mean, it's a, you know, there's a reason why we've had, you you know, I was saying yesterday, like, we can't, I really do think it's inappropriate to call it the Chinese virus because they're going to release another virus in like a year, and we're going to have, we're going to have to come up with a whole new name for it.
So, like, it's just
inefficient.
Do you know what MERS is?
Yeah, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.
I'm sorry, it's what?
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.
Yes.
Middle East Respiratory System.
Wow.
Do you know what the West Nile virus is?
Yes, I do.
They can come.
Yeah.
Spanish flu.
It's a virus.
Yeah.
Spanish flu.
I mean,
this is what we call things.
I used to live two towns away from old Lyme, Connecticut.
Lyme disease.
Lyme, Connecticut.
That's where it's from.
I mean, this is so unbelievably rich.
I'll get into this in a minute.
Let me just finish this stupid thing.
All right.
So.
This is going to have a huge impact on people coming together.
Restaurants, cafes, bars, nightclubs, gyms, hotels, favors, theaters, movie cinemas, art galleries, shopping malls, craft fairs, museums, musicians, other performers, sporting venues, sports teams,
conference venues,
cruise lines, airlines, public transportation, private schools, public schools, daycare centers.
I mean, are you kidding me?
This is the entire thing.
Now, they say there will be some adaption, of course.
Gyms could start selling home equipment.
Oh, and online training sessions.
Oh, okay.
All right.
It's now being called the shut-in economy.
Shut-in economy.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It sounds sustainable to me.
Now they're saying we're going to have a better health care system at the other end of this.
Oh, are we?
Or are we going to have a nationalized health care system?
They say maybe movie theaters will take out half of their seats.
Meetings will be held in larger rooms with spaced-out chairs.
Gyms will require you to book workouts ahead of time so they don't get too crowded.
But here's the good news: governments all around the world, including Israel, have decided to use cell phone location data.
See if this matches what you've been saying is coming, Stu.
It'll match location data with its intelligence services that they use to track terrorists to trace people who've been in touch with known carriers of the virus.
Singapore does exhaustive contact tracing and publishes detailed data on each known case, all but identifying people by name.
To get on a flight, perhaps we're going to have to be signed up to a service that tracks your movement via your phone.
The airline wouldn't be able to see where you've gone, but it would be able to get alert if you have been close to someone that has been infected or in a disease hotspot.
There'd be similar requirements for the entrance of large venues, government buildings, public transportation hubs.
There'd be temperature scanners everywhere, and your workplace might demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs.
Where nightclubs ask for proof of age, in the future, they may ask for proof of immunity, an identity card, or some kind of digital verification via your phone, showing you've already recovered from or been vaccinated.
The intrusive surveillance will be considered a small price to pay for the basic freedom to be with other people.
Gig workers, again, this is this, this is a report from London.
Gig workers from drivers to plumbers to freelance yoga instructors will see their jobs becoming more precarious.
Immigrants, refugees, the undocumented, and ex-convicts will face yet another basic obstacle to gaining a foothold in society.
Bull crap.
Bull crap.
That won't happen.
Can somebody, this is another thing I'm going to take on today.
Can somebody please tell me why we're releasing prisoners?
Why are we releasing prisoners?
Isn't that the ultimate in isolation?
Isn't that, aren't we just quarantining them?
Why are we releasing people onto the streets?
Who came up with that idea?
I know.
It's rhetorical.
I know who came up with that.
Moreover, unless there are strict rules on how someone's risk for disease is assessed, governments or companies could choose any criteria.
You're high risk if you earn less than $50,000 a year, if you're in a family of more than six people, or you live in certain parts of the country, for example.
Oh,
another way to separate us, divide us, and keep us in our own little corrals.
This is great.
That creates scope for algorithmic bias and hidden discrimination.
as what happened last year with a
U.S.
health insurer that used an algorithm that turned out to inadvertently favor white people.
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You'll have all of the bone pieces, everything you need to assemble it right there on the inside of that duct tape.
Might take you a while, but I suggest you wrap your head because it's going to be a bumpy ride today.
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Hey,
welcome to it.
We got a lot of things to do today.
I don't know where to start with Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.
I thought we'd have a rolling conversation.
And Pat, you can spin the wheel here wherever you want it to stop.
We can talk about whose idea was it to just release people from prison.
Isn't that kind of quarantine?
Isn't that social distancing?
Everybody stay in your cell.
Since when?
Who came up with this?
Why are we doing this?
Okay, we have that as topic number one.
Topic number two is China.
How dare you call this a Chinese virus?
How dare you call this the Wuhan virus?
Really?
The Spanish flu?
You know, it didn't even come from Spain.
Oh,
gosh.
That's just where it was.
Yeah, or we could just talk about, come on, come on.
We could
talk about
the GOP
that is with, they're willing to spend anything.
And
where are we getting these ideas?
Can you tell me what the metrics are here?
If you really want to help people, you're just going to send everyone a check for $1,000?
What are you talking about?
First of all, it's not everybody.
It's only people who have an income of, I think it's $100,000 or $150,000 as a couple and $75,000
and below as an individual.
Okay, well, that covers a lot of people.
But what are they supposed to do with that?
Where are they going with that?
And really, we're just.
How about just no taxes for anyone?
Right.
That's the
less government thing to do.
We're doing the bigger government thing, and that's what we keep doing over and over and over.
How about this one, Pat?
How about this one?
How about
you can't foreclose on anybody's home?
Can't do it.
Can't do it for the next six months or until this end.
I mean, that's not good.
No.
But ideally, it's not just printing money.
I do believe that is part of this.
I think they're going to do that for two months, right?
Isn't it a two-month process?
A start, yeah.
Yeah.
But you've got McConnell, Mitch McConnell, who's a supposed Republican.
And this is why we didn't like the guy so much in the first place.
We're going to go on and vote as soon as the Senate can get permission to vote on the bill.
Came over from the House, sent it down to the president, reassure the people.
He added: A number of my members think there are considerable shortcomings in the bill.
My counsel to them is to gag and vote for it anyway.
Oh, that's
very conservative view.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mitch.
And then it's the,
I'm beginning to hate this phrase more than
poison.
Let's not let perfection be the enemy of good.
Shut up.
Shut up.
I can't take that.
I can't take it.
Do you know the CDC guidance of how far I have to be away from Pat when he's yelling like that?
It's definitely going to be one of my feet, right?
A mile and a half.
No, that's, yeah,
that's why I'm in another studio.
There is no distance from Pat.
Try Cleveland.
We have eight conservatives left in the Senate.
Eight.
Marsha Blackburn voted against it.
James Inhoff.
Ron Johnson.
James Lankford.
Mike Lee, of course.
Thank you, Mike.
Rand Paul, Ben Sass, and Tim Scott.
Those are the only conservatives, I guess, left in office.
Well, because they were hammering Rand Paul yesterday because he decided to propose an amendment.
And the amendment would say, hey, if we're going to give a trillion dollars away, let's come up with a way to pay for that.
And maybe we, for example, his idea was let's get rid of the war in Afghanistan.
And he suggested a couple of other things.
That wouldn't pay for it.
And they're like, how dare you?
Chuck Schumer's like, this is a crisis and we're, this is wasting time.
Really?
Is the four hours you had to wait to go through the voting process really going to be the difference here?
You know, it's not like you're going to guys are going to send out these checks today.
Like, we all understand this is going to be a little bit of time, but they can't even have a conversation about paying for it.
And I understand this is a tough one.
Like, you know, to your point about the taxes, like, I love that.
And I think that's a great way.
And I love the I would suspend all federal taxes.
Yeah.
And it's great.
Glenn's made a great point on this.
Like, it's
almost an automatic sunset.
They can't keep all this power because they're going to want to reverse the tax thing so badly that when it's time to reverse it, maybe they will.
Right.
But the issue there is, and I think
they absolutely will.
In fact,
they will end it.
They will end the, if you tie it to no taxes until this national emergency is over.
I can guarantee you at the very first opportunity that they have to declare this national emergency over, they'll declare it.
It's like next Tuesday.
They will do it.
Really?
Yeah, it'll be like
a national emergency.
You know, I think we might have been overreacting a little bit.
It's a giant pile of bodies outside the hospital.
You think it's over now?
It's over.
No, no, no.
We have less bodies today than we did yesterday.
It's over.
It's over.
The only time your convictions and principles are tested are when there's a crisis, right?
There's no, you don't have to, i mean you your principles don't have any sort of a trial it's easy if there's nothing going on of course they're going to be tested in a crisis and that's when it's important to stick to them yeah it's they won't they won't it strikes me too like with the taxes thing the one argument i think that has some value against just doing taxes is there are a bunch of people who are going to lose their job and then not have taxes to pay.
So they're already paying zero and it's not necessarily going to help those people.
But we do have things like unemployment that maybe they're, maybe
it's a little bit easier to get.
Maybe it's a little bit more generous than it was in the past.
But there are things like that that are able to be done where
you can bridge that gap for people who really need it.
Just throwing $1,000 at everybody in America, I mean,
I understand Andrew Yang made that sound so appealing, but
it's a very questionable thing.
It's the type of thing that may not go away.
And obviously, as Mitch McConnell points out, nobody's putting thought into this.
They won't even take time to vote on an amendment.
They think that's the worst thing in the world.
And by the way, Mike Lee was, I think, one of three, along with Rand Paul, that actually voted for the Rand Paul amendment.
And, you know,
they don't want to even take time to figure out how to pay for it.
They don't want you, even if you have a problem with the bill.
They just want you to vote for it anyway.
Like, that's how we always get next time.
We're going to vote.
Right.
Always get an extra time.
So I have some additional happy news.
Okay.
Okay.
Do we have any happy music or anything, Sarah?
Do we have anything that's like, oh, that'll make me feel better when I say this?
You have anything?
Oh, you know what?
Let's get that really moody.
Yeah.
Okay.
I like this.
Ladies, I am not a meat puppet.
Okay.
No.
All right.
So as we're sitting around here with our cocktails in our hand and just talking about the little people,
let me tell you about...
Do you remember, hey, Pat, Pat, come here for a second.
Come on over here for a second.
Do you remember when the people were talking in 2008 about this thing called derivatives?
Right, derivatives.
And the little people thought, oh, this is a bad thing, these derivatives.
And the banks were,
of course, they were too big to fail because they had some money in derivatives and that caused the whole breakdown.
Do you remember those times?
Yes, yes.
Right, right, right, right.
The banks are now, guess, guess
how much the banks are sitting on in derivatives now.
Guess.
I want you to guess.
Oh, don't get rid of the music.
Please, I need that cocktail music.
I'm guessing more than back in 2008.
Guess a number.
Okay.
Guess a number.
Guess a number.
I know it's huge.
Do you want me to play my old game?
No, I don't.
No.
Well, yeah, go ahead.
Play your old game.
$50 trillion.
$50 trillion.
$50 trillion.
$50 trillion.
$50 trillion.
Now, for anybody who doesn't know Pat's old game, Pat's old game is he guesses some crazy number, and then he's like, and I'm disappointed
to spoil the surprise.
Right.
Yes.
Correct.
Correct.
Okay.
Okay.
Well,
you, if we were playing the game
closest without going over,
you would lose.
Wow.
Unless we were playing it for individual banks.
For instance, JP Morgan Chase, they now have derivatives sitting on $48 trillion.
One bank.
Citigroup has $47 trillion.
And Goldman Sachs, $42 trillion.
Would you like another drink and try to play again?
Oh, my God.
Guess the number of derivatives.
Guess it.
Guess.
Go ahead.
So the total number?
Total number.
48 quadrillion.
And I'll be disappointed if it's a dollar.
There you go.
Nice work.
I think it is.
48 quadrillion.
I think you got over it that time.
Yep, you did.
It's only $1.5 quadrillion dollars.
That
is.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
What?
That's the first time I've ever heard it five in a real story.
The quadrillion.
I said to my kids last week, this is going to be an amazing week.
By Saturday, you will see and hear things that you've never seen before.
That is the same thing I said last night when I found that number, Pat.
I've never
heard
the word quadrillion used in a real sentence.
Wow.
$1.5 quadrillion dollars of derivatives.
Remember, derivatives, the bad thing.
Yeah.
The thing that the banks were too big to fail.
Wow.
1.4 quadrillion?
No, 1.5 quadrillion.
That's, I mean, that's unthinkable.
You can't even, I mean, the only time I've actually ever heard it, and I've never seen it in a story, you know where I saw the, I think it was in the movie
Passenger, the Passenger.
Did you see Passenger?
With
Jennifer Lawrence and Chris, what's his face?
Oh, mayhave, yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, Chris Pratt.
Okay, so they're traveling, and this is a future movie, obviously, and they're traveling to some other distant place because the Earth is dying or whatever.
And she's talking about how much money the company is making on
relocating humans to this other planet.
And it was, I think it was something like four quadrillion dollars.
And that was the only time I'd ever, and it was like a number, okay, well, we're not going to get to that probably even in that year.
Here we are in 2020, and we've gotten to that number in bad debt.
Yeah.
That's not good.
That's not good.
Yeah.
That's not good.
As Stuarts say, that's suboptimal.
By about $1.5 quadrillion dollars.
I'll give you the rest of this.
The reason why I came across these numbers, I'll give you the rest of it next hour.
You don't want to miss it.
You might want to prepare because $1.5 quadrillion dollars in derivatives.
I'll explain why that's a bad thing coming up.
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podcast host of the Matt Walsh show.
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the Glenn Beck podcast.
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We work on the content.
He's also the author of a brand new book called The Church of Cowards.
Hello, Matt.
How are you?
Hey, Glenn, doing well.
How about you?
I'm fantastic.
I'm fantastic.
Anything on your mind you want to hit first before we get into the church of cowards on the coronavirus?
Like, you want to make sure that we're not calling it the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus or anything else?
I mean, because
I'm sure you agree with that.
Yeah, that's, of course, the most important issue.
I mean, when you're in the media and you're at a press conference with the president of the United States during a pandemic and we're looking at a possibility of a global depression, you know, and you have a chance to ask him a question, obviously you should ask him about why he's doing a big knee head to China.
I mean, that's obviously the most
discussing right now.
Right.
I mean, we haven't had a depression in, I don't know, at least a couple of years.
Well, I think it's been since the 1930s that we've been in a depression.
And that, I mean, how posh is your life if that's the thing that you're worried about?
How out of touch are you?
And meanwhile, I mean, in all seriousness, there are people, many people in this country who are worried now about how they're going to feed their families next week because they're not making any money.
So
I don't think that those people really care what we call this damn thing.
I think they're more worried about, you know, what's the end game?
Where is this?
Okay, we all have to stay in our homes.
Is this going to be over next week?
Is it going to be over in two months?
It kind of makes a big difference.
I think most people want to know
what's out here.
What does it look like?
What's the point?
What is this supposed to, how are we going to know that it's okay to go outside again?
I don't think that's been articulated or explained.
And I think that just keeps people more anxious.
People keep saying in Washington, well, we're going to do this until this emergency emergency is over.
Can you tell me what the metric is that we're going to use to decide when this emergency is over?
Can you give me any...
I've been asking for weeks
for my own company.
I've been asking, I need to see what the tripwires are.
How is the government measuring things so when they know you're going to go from phase one to phase two?
No one has tripwires.
Now, somebody's making the decision, but based on what?
we are printing trillions of dollars and just giving them away
does anybody have anything that they're basing this on is it anything other than no well he wants to give less so i want to give more
what is all of this based on there's no reality there's no fact there's nothing
yeah it's it makes it i mean the hard thing is that Even the scientists and the doctors
don't know everything about this virus because obviously it's new And the rest of us, I know for me, I don't know a damn thing about viruses or pandemics.
It's not something I've really thought about up until now.
I'm not an expert.
So, you know, we're looking for, we need to know who we can trust on this and who we can listen to.
And of course, we know we can't live, we can't listen to the media in the disinformation age that we live in.
So,
where do you go?
Who's the next person?
So, who has their
Matt?
Who has their credibility?
Because you've written a book, The Church of Cowards, and in the very first first chapter, Christians not worth killing.
I mean, that is quite a statement, and I think it's right.
I think it's true that they don't have any credibility either, many of them.
Yeah,
that's the thing you hear.
I hear this from Christians all the time, how they're worried about
the possibility of some real violent persecution happening in this country the way that it's happened, as we know, and it is happening now in so many other parts of the world.
But the point is that
there's no reason for it to happen here.
Anybody who wants to persecute the church here, there's no reason to go to that level because Christians are just abandoning their faith on their own.
They are very happy to do it without much encouragement.
And so
that's why I say not worth killing.
We're not worth,
in this country, anyway, we're not worth persecuting.
I don't think we've earned that in a sense.
Well, I think we're kind of like where Germany was.
Germany, you know, the church was strong in Germany, but they sold out to the Nazis and replaced the pictures of Christ on the mantels.
Within, I think it was a year of
his becoming chancellor.
Most of them had already just said, oh, I give.
Okay, you're right.
And they were holding meetings as a greater German church.
to get to talk about and seriously discuss the getting rid of the Old Testament in the Bible because of all of the Jewishness of it.
I mean,
well, there wasn't a great
persecution of the German churches in World War II.
There was
a persecution of some Christians, but the churches, by and large, kind of went right along with it.
Yeah, I think that's a good analogy because that's what you see in our culture as well
with so many churches that are, you know, it's not about going along with with a with a you know a dictator figure like Hitler but it's more about going along with the culture and the culture of death and not wanting to resist or fight back because number one I think we've lost our we've lost that sort of warrior spirit that used to be has always been historically a part of Christianity from the very beginning and also we've been told that things like tolerance are these great virtues and so we can go with the flow and be apathetic and then dress and be cowardly and dress that up as tolerance.
But of course, we know that tolerance is not a virtue at all.
Tolerance can be fine depending on what you're, but it all depends on what you're tolerating.
And even if you're tolerating something good,
it doesn't take a lot of thing about tolerance is that you can do it from your couch with Cheeto dust all over your chest or you're sitting there watching TV.
It's really easy to tolerate things.
It just requires you to literally to nothing and allow whatever it is that's happening to continue happening.
So it's not virtuous.
And we know that
as Christians, there are so many things that we should not be tolerating to the best of our ability.
We should be resisting and fighting back against them.
That's what, if you look, pick up the gospel sometimes and read them.
I think people need to actually do that, especially if you're a Christian.
And you're going to find that Jesus Christ,
when he was walking around on earth, was confrontational.
He was not a hippie piecemeck figure going along to get along.
He was confronting constantly and aggressively.
Well, I have to interrupt.
May I interrupt you, Mr.
Matt Walsh?
It's a Joe P.
Reporter from MSNBC.
And
in your book, you describe the hangout Jesus, the idea that Jesus hung out with sinners and prostitutes.
And that's exactly what he did.
You're saying he was not a tolerant man, but he was hanging out with them all the time.
He was having dinner with them, probably partying with them,
just hanging with the common folk.
And
this Jesus you're describing,
I don't recognize, sir.
Yeah, I will say, I mean, it's easy not to recognize Jesus if
you haven't read the accounts of him in the Bible.
That's the thing.
He was not hanging out.
I mean, he hung on the cross for sinners, and
that's very true.
But that's the point.
It was the exact opposite of hanging out the way that we think,
he wasn't just hanging around
and paling around.
This was about leadership and
ministering to sinners.
And I think those are the words we should be using.
So are you seeing a Christian response right now to COVID-19?
Are you seeing the churches doing what they're supposed to?
Well, I don't know because, you know,
the churches, of course, across America, I know my church is shut down as so many churches have.
I guess most of them have.
And
I'm not going to call that
a manifestation of a church of cowards and say they're being cowards for doing it because,
you know, I'm not in a position of having to make those choices, thankfully.
And I know that so many churches, you know, they have a lot of older people, and so you have a responsibility to them, and you don't want to put them in a position where they're going to be harmed.
So I understand.
But
church is not really
four walls.
Church, what happens inside of those
four walls is the least important thing
when it comes to being a Christian.
It's what you do outside of those four walls.
So the building may be closed, but the church isn't closed.
Right, that's exactly right.
And I think that one of the really important things that the church needs to do now and Christians need to do now is respond.
I think people are having, we already know there's a crisis of faith in this culture as it is, and then you throw something like this into it and people are asking, I get questions like this, and I'm not, you know, I'm nobody, but questions like, well, how could God allow this to happen?
Why would God allow something like this?
Where is God in all of this?
You know, the classic questions that humans have been asking through the ages.
And
it's a question that Christians need to start taking seriously and trying really hard to answer.
Because that's another thing that I think there are people in our culture who are losing their faith.
And it's not always because they want to go run off and sin and because they're weak.
It's really because
they haven't been raised in the faith, maybe.
They have legitimate questions.
They're scared or confused.
They need someone to come and take their questions seriously and address them.
And oftentimes I think we're afraid to do that.
You say,
you know,
when are American Christians willing to lay down their smartphones, let alone their lives, for the faith?
How do you...
I think that the churches are not providing, as you just said, any real answers and really any real direction.
It seems like they're telling a bunch of old stories that we've heard a million times, even though we haven't.
We've heard a million times.
I know the Jesus story.
And they're not relating it at all to real life at all.
And so people,
they get more out of their smartphone, and they think that church and the Bible and everything else has nothing to do with them and their life because the church has failed on that front.
Absolutely.
And I think, I mean, you want to know the thing that's responsible, I think, for leading millions, especially of young people away from the faith.
It's YouTube.
And
what I mean by that is
there are young people, especially they go to college, they find that their faith is attacked.
They're being told all these things, presented all these arguments, presented a lot of information, much of it false about the Bible and the history of Christianity.
And so now they have questions, and
they need to turn somewhere
and ask someone.
And they try to turn to their pastor, and all they get is just silliness and platitude.
So they go to YouTube and they just start perusing and trying to find an answer somewhere in there.
And
then they get the wrong answers.
And they stumble on all these other videos, and that's how they end up losing their faith.
Because, again, it's just there's not any real moral and also intellectual leadership happening in the church in so many cases.
And I think you're right that so many people go to church and they find that what it seems like to them, they're getting old stories and they're getting a little pep talk that has no connection to their actual everyday life and the moral struggles that they face.
And if that's the case, then we're just going to continue to lose Christians in this culture.
So
what's your prognosis?
Well, I think
first of all, what we need, as we've been talking about from the church and church leaders, is a willingness to lead on a, you know, to show moral leadership and to engage with the culture and to speak to people on the level where they are and about the things that they're actually struggling with.
But then also, I think we as Christians need to do,
need to analyze ourselves and we need to think, you know,
There's a lot of extraordinary claims that we make, a lot of things that we claim to believe that are quite startling, honestly.
And we have have to think, do I actually believe those things?
And if I do, well, that reality,
that belief should infiltrate every aspect of my life.
I mean, there should be no part of my life that is immune from this belief.
And so then it's just
a difficult thing to do.
I've tried to do it, and I've realized that I'm failing in so many ways, but there are so many parts of my life that I've tried to kind of put in the box and say, well, faith has nothing to do with that.
That's separate.
And it's just,
that's not the case.
So I think that's a test we have to run for ourselves.
The subtitle of the book is A Wake Up Call to Complacent Christians.
I think that's what coronavirus is as well.
I think we can use this opportunity to get closer to our family.
And I joke a lot about, you know, my family and,
you know, being trapped.
Help me, Matt.
Please, dear God, help me.
I'm trapped in this house with my children and their teenagers.
I joke a lot about it, but I will tell you that if we can use this time to
explore our faith and expand our family relationship,
it will be a time well spent.
A great place to start just examining is Matt Walsh's new book, Church of Cowards: A Wake-Up Call to Complacent Christians, a church of cowards.
Matt, thank you.
As always, good talking to you.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.
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You know,
can I ask you something, Stu?
Have you noticed how the free market is changing things?
Did you see that they have now a test kit for your home that is coming out?
Yeah, end of this month, right?
Yeah, March 23rd, I think it is.
They're saying it's going to be available.
That's actually something
a year and a half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's crazy what the free market is doing,
which is why arguing with socialists is so critical right now.
I think this is the best time to make the case for the free market that I've seen in a long, long time.
Yeah, and it's been interesting to see the brainiacs in Washington attempt to make this issue fit their worldview, probably most prominently Alexandria Ecasio-Cortez, who said this was a great example.
South Korea was a great example as to why you need single-payer health care.
I mean, it's hard to express how much that is wrong in every single way.
I mean, yes,
they have a single-payer healthcare system, but what they did with that single-payer healthcare system is decide to engage their free markets and have private businesses produce tests.
What we did with our system was the exact opposite.
We acted like a single-payer system.
We ran everything through a centralized planner, the CDC in this particular case, did not allow private businesses to create tests, which is what made the delay occur.
We had this long delay where we had people who had tests and wanted to create them, would submit them and be rejected by the CDC
because they didn't go through, they didn't wait, they didn't have the long enough time, there's certain documents and things that you need to do.
Some of those things might make some sense in a normal situation.
In the middle of a pandemic, you need the tests.
And we could have had them a lot faster if we would have done the same thing South Korea did, which was embrace the free market.
You want a whole bunch of people working on
a whole different avenue.
And you get that when everyone is a laboratory.
Everyone can solve something.
You'll notice that when things started turning around, when they said, the government's not doing enough, how did he turn it around?
He started making partnerships with
the free market and said, look, I'm going to take some of these restrictions off you.
Go do what you need to do.
Let me give you this.
There's a taco spot right now that is having a problem.
They had to shut down everything.
So I had all of this food.
And what are they gonna do with it?
The owner of the store calls his mom and says, How you doing, mom?
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He's like, you're not going outside.
Here, I'll give him
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Why don't we deliver the eggs and the toilet paper and everything else?
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We're awaiting a task force update from the COVID-19 task force.
That's going to be coming up here in a little bit.
We may be talking to someone who has,
yeah, who actually has.
Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Yeah, we.
Wait a minute.
I'm not interrupting.
You're interrupting?
Who gave you the.
Anyway,
we have a guy.
His name is Hunter Howard, 50 years old.
Came back from a ski trip in early March.
Within a week, he realized, oh, crap, I think I have the coronavirus.
He was the first guy in Dallas to have it.
He's recovered now.
He's going to be on with us in just a few minutes, telling us what it was like.
But there's some new stats out that show
all of this about it's not affecting young people
seems to be kind of not true.
Yeah, they're saying now
40%
of those hospitalized in the United States
have been between 20 and 54 years old.
So not
elderly, not anywhere near that in many cases.
And this also repeats what we saw in France where they had, I think it was 300 people who were in intensive care and about half of them were under the age of 60.
So
this has been one of those situations where you realize as it goes on, we don't have all of the information and we're trying to make snap judgments without it.
It's tough, though.
I mean, what do you do?
Like, there's a great article that's been making the rounds that basically outlines this fact.
And we don't know how fast it spreads.
We don't know what it's going to do.
We see the worst case scenarios.
We can imagine the best case scenarios, but we're making decisions based on a lack of information.
And that's absolutely true.
However, when the worst case scenarios look like they do and they're this close, you know, day to day, it's not like global warming where the worst case scenario is really bad, but it's, you know, decades into the future.
And, you know, that's a totally different situation.
This is a situation where like if you wait three more days, you may have tens of thousands of more people
that have this virus.
And you can't do that.
You can't afford it.
Right.
And, you know, here's the thing.
We're going to make mistakes.
Mistakes are going, we're going to look back and go, well, that one was stupid.
We're going to make those mistakes, but we should correct them as soon as we figure out that that was a mistake.
And I'm not sure.
We are running now like chickens with our heads cut off to where we,
what is the,
why are we making some of these decisions and I think that there is a case
to be made that the
you know what I'm gonna next hour I'm gonna give you a I'm gonna give you a list of things that I know things that I know and then things that my gut tells me because there are different there's difference there and I know this is a an actual real pandemic I know this is not a bioweapon or anything else.
But I think there are those who are using this to really hurt us
and hurt the entire capitalist system to reset the system.
There's something else, too, that we have to be really careful of.
Trump just
said that he was closing the guest worker visa thing
down at the border.
That seems right off the top of your head a good thing.
Except I grew up in the Pacific Northwest.
I grew up on the West Coast.
Migrant farmers and migrant workers are critical to our food.
So
we can't say no to migrant workers.
It's not like it used to be where, well, we'll just get our boys and girls out there and
they'll just
pick the berries and
till the soil and make sure that we have.
They're not going to do it.
They're not going to do it
we do need these migrant workers and i hope somebody in the white house is thinking again about the farmers because the farmers are starting to scramble this is the kind of decision that if you don't if you don't go back and say okay wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute yeah but there there is a visa program there is a migrant worker thing that we may have to make an allowance for otherwise we have no food
and to be clear you're talking about legal immigrants here not illegal immigrants yeah yeah yeah No, visas.
You know, you're a migrant worker, and he's going to stop all of that.
We can't stop all of that.
We have to have the H-2A agricultural visas.
We have to have them.
All right.
Our guest is not joining us.
Is this right?
Do we have...
We had
no guests.
Okay, so schedule him for another time
other than know, now.
Let me give you an update on guns.
Yesterday I went to my doctor.
I got an injection in my back.
And,
you know, they put you under for that.
And they give you basically truth serum.
And so
it's funny because my wife is usually at my bedside and she was, you know, she's usually there when I wake up.
And
she
generally makes notes of all the funny things that I had said that I don't recall.
Well, this time
you couldn't,
nobody was allowed in except for the nurses and for me.
And so I'm fine and I come to.
I have no idea what I've talked to these guys about as I'm in recovery.
And
then
afterwards, they all kind of came by my bedside and they're like, okay, can you tell us what do you think is happening?
What do you think is coming?
What should we do?
And my first memories are me saying, Yeah, you got to go out and buy guns.
You got to, I mean, it's time now.
You got to go buy guns.
What are you doing?
Where's your bank account?
You've got your money where?
I have no idea.
I have to call them all and say, whatever I said to you, I don't know if that was accurate.
I don't remember the advice I was giving to you yesterday.
Take it with a grain of salt.
But
one of them was telling me that he went in and tried to buy some ammunition here in Texas.
And he said it was crazy.
Just got a call from a friend of mine before we started the show, and they said, hey, just want you to know, I tried to get a gun
at Cabela's or wherever here in Texas.
And they said, it's a 30-day wait.
The government is so backed up with background checks.
It's a 30-day wait to be able to get a gun.
Now, I don't know how much of that I believe.
I mean, it is the Trump administration, so I tend to believe they're not doing this.
But this is the kind of thing that the government does all the time, at least in other administrations like Obama and before that, Clinton, where it's like, oh, you know, our
computer thingy majig, it's down, and we don't have the McJigger guy to come over and fix it yet.
So it's going to be a while before we can get that through.
And as soon as
George Bush is elected,
the computer said, Thingament Jig's working again.
So I'm not sure what that is, but there may be a huge run on guns right now.
Well, especially, I mean, if they tell you you can't leave your house, right?
You're going to be in your house.
We're looking at a potential economic catastrophe at some level, right?
We're looking at potentially at least a recession.
We might want to have guns at your house to protect your home.
Yeah.
We are now talking about a depression.
You know, I thought I was way off
the rails, and I was nervous to say it just about two weeks ago.
I said, I think we could be in a depression by this time next year.
I think we could be in a deep depression.
And I remember hesitating.
Last night I read we might be in a depression by the third quarter of this year.
Really?
Summertime.
We could be in a depression.
And when you see the stats, I'll share them with you next hour.
When you see the stats of
what the Fed is doing,
and
it just doesn't add up to all coronavirus.
It just doesn't.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
You know, the other thing, too, Glenn, is you always have to do a cost-benefit analysis when you look at something like this, right?
What's the cost-benefit analysis of us being at home for a week or two?
There's economic consequences to that.
Could be bad.
We're going to spend a bunch of money.
The government's going to obviously throw money at this problem and try to solve it.
So far, they've been completely unsuccessful with those efforts.
They've done absolutely nothing to calm the markets.
But at some point, we have to look at and remember that the economy is not
the way it gets summarized, which is, do we get to go out and buy new cars?
Do we have nice homes?
Do we have nice things?
Do we have a savings that's growing and a 401k that's growing and a retirement and vacations and all of these sort of frivolous parts of the economy?
One of the reasons why civilization exists is because of this economy.
Lives, if this economy and capitalism gets destroyed because we stay home for several months and it can't recover and we lose all of the rights and freedoms that we've had, this also costs lives, lots of them.
And so while
many, many more.
Obviously, long term, it's much worse than the virus if we were to, let's say, lose capitalism, lose our economy.
It's not just about selfish things like, I want to go buy things for me.
It's about a system that has ripped billions of people out of poverty.
And if we lose that system, or at least lose giant chunks of it, it's going to cost a massive amount of life.
And so you have to look at those things at the same time.
You know, a pause in the way that we normally live with the effort to be able to prepare and guard as many lives as possible because of this virus is something that's really reasonable.
And I think America so far is doing a great job accepting it in really difficult circumstances.
But on the other side of that,
it can't be an eternal thing.
We have to figure out a way to be able to go back and live our lives because we lose this economy.
We have to lose a lot more than just money.
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A fully peer-reviewed study has just been released.
After six days,
100% of patients treated with this
new
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of the virus.
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We have the guy who is the
guy who made that announcement yesterday.
He's the head of this company.
We have him on in about 15 minutes.
You'll want to hear this this interview.
We just booked him.
He'll be on with us in just a few minutes.
That's pretty amazing.
And thanks to the free market, there's also another story out, thanks again to the free market, that we're going to be able to have home testing.
You'll be able to have a home test for COVID-19 within the next two weeks.
So we have that going for us.
On the other hand, I need to give you a significant warning about cash that I just received, what the banks are saying, and what is happening around the world.
We're still behind the rest of the world, and that's good news for you if you are informed.
That information comes up next in our COVID-19 report.
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Hello, America, and welcome to the program, our coronavirus update.
Some very, very,
very important information coming your way all this hour.
We're going to start with just the stats.
Then I'm going to take you to the banks.
Then we have the guy who announced yesterday, he says, my company has just come up with a cure it's been in trials for six days 100 cure rate on coronavirus we go to that coming up in just a second not a second to miss on today's program this is the glembeck program
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All right, let me run down some of the stats.
Total confirmed cases worldwide: 225,000 up from 2020 just yesterday.
Total confirmed deaths worldwide:
9,276, up almost 1,000 deaths yesterday.
Total confirmed worldwide record that are recovered are 85,000 now.
That's up about 3,000 people.
176 countries now have confirmed cases, up from 176 yesterday or 167 yesterday.
Seven more have suspected cases.
5% of active cases are now considered serious requiring hospitalization.
That's down from 6% yesterday and 19% just three weeks ago.
This is incredibly good news.
All right, so
I'm going to give you some more stuff, but we want to get to the guy who's going to announce today or just announced yesterday
that there does look like there is a cure for this, and his company says it has it.
But I also want to talk to you about something that I find incredibly important.
We touched on this yesterday.
Two Two leading European banks now,
1,400 banks between these two European banks, or 1,400 outlets, have closed more than a third of their branches in Germany.
And they are publicly proposing that digital banking can limit the disruption of these closures.
Banks in Britain, Spain, France, likewise asking customers to go online.
In Italy, 900 branches of the country's biggest retail bank now open in the morning only.
Some of its smaller branches are down to operating three days a week.
They have outright closed 122 branches.
Yesterday, that bank began testing the system that requires customers to book an appointment in order to be able to enter the bank.
Unicredit, which has 4,000 branches, is now closing all but a limited number of branches in each region.
Other Italian banks are following suit.
I think we are headed towards a banking holiday for different reasons, but this stuff is coming.
As we look towards the future and we wonder the effects of things, how's the availability of cash?
How are you able to get cash?
You're not getting cash.
They're going to try to move us into credit cards and electronic payments,
and we're going to do it far faster, I think, than Europe.
As of today, the ready availability of cash in the U.S.
is already somewhat reduced.
Banks are enacting new restrictions and limitations on withdrawal.
Many bank branches are already limiting their operational hours.
There is a possibility, I want to stress this, there is a possibility of cash shortages
because of what's happening with the banks and what is happening with the Fed.
I will tell you that I wanted to withdraw some of my money because I believe that you should have at least a month's worth of cash to be able to cover all of your bills.
You know, if all of a sudden the banks took a holiday, do you have enough to make it through a month?
It probably wouldn't be a month of bank holiday.
But if they're closing all of the branches, we don't know how long it'll be before you can get any kind of cash of any kind of size.
So, do you have a week's worth of cash?
Do you have a month's worth of cash if you can?
I called my bank on Monday or Tuesday, I think it was, and I told them that I wanted to come down and just take out a month's worth of cash just out of my checking account.
And
they said, ooh, wow,
I don't even know how you do that.
I do.
I walk in and I give you a little slip and then you give me a whole bunch of pieces of paper.
That's how that works.
Kind of the opposite of when I gave that money to you.
Do you remember that part?
They said,
this is Tuesday.
They said, okay, okay, can you come in on Tuesday?
And I'm like, well, it's today.
No, next Tuesday.
It took a week.
A week.
They're not wanting to give out cash.
May I suggest you obtain and maintain
some sort of cash supply just for food and other necessities, but it also might help you gain assistance in the future if things get really, really bad.
Do not hoard cash.
Do not take everything out of the bank.
Just have enough cash for a week, or if you could afford it, a month's worth.
And don't get it in $100 bills.
Because anybody who is, if there's a shortage of cash,
you don't want to have hundreds.
You want to have 20s.
You want to have 50s because people aren't going to be able to make change.
And
I urge you not to panic and not to go in and pull all of your money.
If you pull all of your money out of the bank, it's going to make things much worse.
So don't do that, but do go and get some money and have cash on hand.
All right.
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So we have Gregory Ragino.
He is a Stanford advisor, SPARC.
He is the project lead of the clinical trials for COVID-19 prevention.
Last night, he made a pretty remarkable announcement, and we are keeping our fingers crossed that it is true.
Greg, welcome to the program.
Thank you for having me on, Glenn.
Sure.
So tell me what you've discovered, what you have, what it means, and how fast can it get out?
So really this is the key item here is that we don't have time.
This disease is growing at an exponential rate of 10x.
So we need to proceed immediately.
We do not have time and we need to shut this disease down right now.
It's It's a matter of national security.
So specifically, I just want to lead with this, that the President of the United States of America, our Commander in Chief, has the authority to authorize the use of hydroxychloroquine against coronavirus immediately.
He's cut more red tape at the FDA than any other president in history.
And for example, in twenty seventeen, the FDA approved a muscular dystrophy drug based on an uncontrolled trial of less than 15 patients.
That's one five.
And the drug was approved by the FDA.
So what I'm here to report
is based on a well-controlled, peer-reviewed clinical study out of the south of France by the most eminent infectious disease specialist in the world, Didier Raoult, MDPHD.
He enrolled 40 patients, which showed a 100% cure rate after taking two generic drugs, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, 100% cure rate against coronavirus within six days.
The study was released yesterday morning on my Twitter account, ReganoESQ, and also on COVIDTrial.io and was recently accepted into the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents by Elsevier.
We are in contact with hospitals across the country and around the world, and they're implementing this protocol immediately.
So, what is it that
you have?
I mean,
do we have to have more trials?
You say the president needs to open this up.
What is the next step?
Do you have the finished product, and can it be mass-produced?
The finished product
are generic drugs that have been around for over 50 years.
So, hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug that was developed in response to American soldiers coming back from World War II in the Far East that had contracted malaria.
It has a high-quality safety profile and has never come off the market since
about 1955.
It is used on a regular basis
to treat autoimmune diseases
as well as rheumatoid arthritis.
So this is in literally every pharmacy in America, and this can be implemented today.
It's very inexpensive.
It's a generic drug.
The data is unrefutable and the president can proceed immediately.
Again, the FDA has approved drugs based on clinical trials with less patients.
And in only one clinical trial, this can happen right now.
Well, this doesn't seem like it's a hard thing.
I mean, you know, you're not making, these are both generic drugs, aren't they?
I mean, zithromycin has been around forever.
Correct.
I mean, who has not heard of a ZPAC?
Right.
So it's not like you're standing or this doctor is standing to make a lot of money on this, correct?
It has nothing to do with that.
It really has to do with we're in a global crisis right now.
The world is shutting down.
The airline industry is having significant difficulties.
People are getting fired from their jobs.
There's massive layoffs.
The infection rate is growing at an exponential rate.
ICU rooms
are getting overfilled.
And most importantly, the doctors and nurses on the front lines,
that's who is at the biggest risk.
And we need to take care of them right now.
And this can happen immediately.
This protocol needs to be disseminated through the scientific community.
Any human being that is listening right now, please disseminate this protocol, which can be found at covidtrial.io or my Twitter account, Regano ESQ.
Disseminate it to any scientist, medical doctor or nurse that you know.
Have you talked to the White House?
We have a direct line to them, and we're waiting for them to reach out
it's remarkable that you haven't heard from them because I think this is kind of the shot that was heard around the world last night it's it's nothing new these drugs have been tried separately there's no indication that these drugs used together have any kind of ill effect
so the the trial
showed that there was a 100% cure rate in six days.
Both of these drugs have a very high quality safety profile.
Again,
please submit this protocol to all scientists, medical doctors and nurses throughout the world and let them make the peer-reviewed decision.
And with respect to the White House reaching out, so we know that President Trump received our white paper within 24 hours after it being published.
Dr.
Fauci is doing an excellent job, and we know that they're going to make the right decision.
This is a matter of national security.
And again, this can be implemented right now.
And the scientific evidence here is really unrefutable.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
I just have one last point.
Do you have 30 seconds?
Yeah, sure do.
So in addition to this, what's most important is that we stop the transmission of the virus.
So it's great that we found a cure that works, but we must stop transmission.
So there's strong scientific evidence that hydroxychloroquine will function as a preventative to stop the transmission.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it, Greg.
You know, Stu, I was reading about this last night, and one of the things that caught my eye was that Elon Musk is all over this.
Yeah, and I think it's going to, it's going to be guys like that that really
that really changed things.
This, I didn't realize that this these were two drugs that are already out in the market.
I can't imagine why we're not
taking that seriously.
Well, two things.
Yeah, because it was relatively effective apparently with SARS, which is a very close sort of cousin of what we're dealing with now with COVID-19.
The other part about this is the president is about to have a press conference of the task force for coronavirus, and they are expected to be announcing
that there will be a lot of restrictions taken off for new drugs and attempts,
you know, unapproved drugs,
as well as anything that can help the situation.
They're going to try to take the reins off here of the system and let people try to solve this thing.
And of course, there's going to be controversy over that because you have all these layers of bureaucracy that normally would manage this process.
But obviously, in this situation,
you just got to move forward as fast as you can.
And this has, at least by reports, has shown promise
when it comes to the drugs that he was just talking about.
Not only did it show some success with SARS, but it's believed that this can do some damage in this situation, which would be really, really positive.
Again, we don't need the vaccine, it is something that we always talk about.
And that's great.
We'll get a vaccine eventually.
but the issue is
coming up with a treatment is a really big deal.
Just having something that can take the person who's on a 10 down to a 7 on a 1 to 10 scale is a massive difference between life and death.
And if we can just get there, this totally changes the situation.
This is a dream come true.
If this is true, if this actually works, the markets should shoot right straight back up.
Yeah, we got to stop the, you know, we got to stop spreading it.
Yeah, well, but if I have two drugs that are widely available everywhere,
it's like a ZPAC.
It becomes like the flu.
Maybe older people should stay, although there's some new numbers on that as well.
But it's not this, you know, two years from now, we're allowed to leave our house kind of situation.
I think this changes everything is if it's true.
Why isn't this the biggest story everywhere?
Well, it is a big story.
I mean,
I covered it last night on Stu Does America.
I know ABC News has done some stuff on it.
I mean,
I like the fact that he's incredibly optimistic on these reports and he really thinks that this is going to be the solution.
I don't know that that's
the overwhelming consensus yet.
But there's some real hope from doctors that this could happen.
So, you know, look, there's a reason why they're looking for trials.
He's saying it's going to take a couple months to get full results.
And, but that, that, if that was it, right, like, if, if this is the solution, or at least can just take off the edge off the top of it, it's a huge development.
Human, human trials, both of, both of these drugs have been okayed before.
Why doctors couldn't prescribe both of these drugs?
They should be allowed to try them on patients who are really sick.
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We're going to be monitoring this press conference.
President Trump said this is going to be a very important press conference.
Stu, do you want to monitor and keep it on in the background while we have some other information we have to give that I think is really important as well?
Sure, yeah.
Well, we'll keep an eye on it.
And we'll keep an eye on it.
I want to talk to you a little bit about a word that we haven't
heard about since 2008, derivatives.
Derivatives were what everybody said
was the real problem
with 2008.
And it's a bet made on an outcome of a future event.
This is the banks going to Vegas.
And let me give you an example.
Let's say six months ago in October,
Stu put money down on the table and he said, you know what?
I'm going to buy oil in six months for $50 a barrel.
And Stu was purchasing the right to sell a barrel of oil to another buyer at a given price.
In October, oil was trading at $62 a barrel.
And so I believe that it would be worth more than $62 a barrel.
So I agreed to buy it from Stu at the price of $50
a barrel.
Well, Stu was short oil, believing the price would go down.
I was long on oil, believing the price would go up.
So the futures contract between us is the derivative.
The value of the contract in the future is derived from the actual price of oil down the road versus the time the contract is generated.
On the contract expiration date yesterday, the price of oil was trading at $24 a barrel.
So now I would have to honor my contract to buy the oil from Stu at $50 a barrel.
So Stu is making a huge profit because I'm paying double what oil is actually worth.
If the price of oil had gone up to
$100 a barrel, I would have been buying it at a huge discount and I would have been the one making huge profits.
Okay, so the trading of this, the risk is
because
this isn't being done generally by private citizens.
This is, if all derivatives were between, you know, me and Stu Stu or you and me, we wouldn't have a problem like this.
It would be the investors who lost or made the money when the contracts were closed.
But what makes derivatives so dangerous is that most derivatives, they're between investors and banks.
So when analysts are talking about the derivatives exposure, they're talking about the position that banks have taken in derivatives contracts and the possible payouts that a given bank
may have to pay pay out when a price rises or falls dramatically.
So it's our banks and our investment houses that are making these private casino trips, and it's very, very dangerous.
Let me go back to our example.
If Stu is short of the oil market, and it was the same right to, you know, he had
the right to sell a given amount of oil to a buyer for $50 a barrel.
But instead of a single barrel, we were talking about $4 trillion worth of barrels.
Instead of me being obligated to buy oil at $50, let's say I'm Chase Bank.
When that contract is due, Chase has to come up with $4 trillion to buy oil from Stew at $50 a barrel.
But the oil is only worth $24 a barrel.
So what happens?
If it were you, if it's the bank, they're forced to sell other assets.
to honor the contract or they have to borrow money from another bank like the Fed.
So when prices are making big moves in underlying assets like natural gas and oil, copper, silver, steel, banks have this huge, huge exposure.
And since investment banks can also be savings banks, listen to me carefully, this is why this is so important.
Since investment banks are also savings banks where regular people have their money deposited for things like, I don't know, your retirement or whatever, that's where Main street is exposed to all of the risk because the deposits can be used to cover the investment losses of the bank in fact last monday they said these banks don't have to have the money on hand for to cover the deposits they usually they have to have 10 of that cash on hand don't worry about it you can use all that cash for whatever it is you want we'll cover the short for you that's the fed talking
this is one of the reasons why i am very very concerned about a run
because with our market going down as much as it has,
people are having to make up for those losses.
And I don't mean like you and me, I mean these giant banks are having to make up with these losses.
And already we have pumped trillions, trillions of dollars into the system through the Fed.
The Fed's cumulative loans, by the way, of these overnight loans paid back supposedly within 24 hours, since September 2019,
they have given $9 trillion
of loans to the banks.
$9 trillion.
Now note that from 2007 to 2010, the Fed was also doing these operations, and it was a total of $16 trillion.
But that's 2007 to 2010.
Wait a minute.
This is since September of 2019.
This is just a few months ago, and we are already halfway there.
Now,
remember, these are loans that are supposedly paid back.
That's not the same as the Fed dumping new cash into the system that stays there.
It covers the short-term fluctuations.
Here's why this is
so concerning.
Remember that CDOs were the things that caused all of the problems, they say, of 2008.
That's our derivatives market.
Our banks now
are in way past their neck.
I've never used this number,
except as a joke.
I've never used this number before.
I've never seen this number in any news report until yesterday.
The total size of the banking derivatives market is over
a quarter quadrillion dollars.
That's $250 trillion.
If we take every bit of money that is out in the system, and I mean even from some distant land where they are just trading in clamshells, whatever is counted as money, we take all of it in one heap.
That's about $50 trillion.
If we take all of every dollar that is earned all around the world for a whole year, that's about another $50 trillion.
We're not even halfway to the derivatives market.
That's $250 trillion or one quarter of a quadrillion dollars that they have on the table.
And the exposure on those three banks, Chase, Citibank, and Goldman, the exposure is over $40 trillion
each.
They know
we're headed for a depression.
They know we're headed for a depression because they've got all this money that's being called and they don't know what to do.
I, um,
you know, there are things that,
there are things that I believe and I will say out loud and there are things that
things that I don't, at least I don't say to the family.
You know, I'm not getting my kids together and I'm not telling them, hey, the real number of the infected is far more than we know.
But I believe that.
But I don't say it to my family.
There are going to be shortages that none of us have ever experienced before.
We already are.
Hospitals are going to be overwhelmed.
First with a lack of supplies, then possibly with an overrun of patients, and then finally with a lack of staff.
I believe that.
I'm not saying it out loud to my family.
Just because of proximity, healthcare workers are going to suffer far more losses than anybody else.
And that's going to exacerbate the problem of treating other people.
Healthcare system, gonna be overwhelmed.
May actually collapse in some parts of the world, may collapse here.
I don't know.
There will be haves and have-nots.
I know this to be true, but I don't say it to my kids.
Scare them.
There's other things that my gut tells me that I don't say out loud.
I'll get to those in a second.
We got to go into the press conference.
Something important is happening in the press conference.
When you go with a brand new drug, you don't know that that's going to happen.
You have to see and you have to go long tests.
But this has been used in different forms very powerful drug in different forms and it's shown very encouraging
very very encouraging early results
and
we're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately and that's where the FDA has been so great they're going to be talking through the approval process it's been approved he's talked about several years
kind of crossing over many many months the beginning of this but he's he's
the whole press conference has been a lot of people.
He's going to be able to make that drug available.
This type of thing, making these drugs available that are already on the market and also new ones, brushing them through trials.
And
he wants to be first online.
And
so I think that's a tremendous, there's tremendous promise
based on the results.
and other tests.
There's tremendous promise.
And normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like that.
And
it was approved very, very quickly and it's now approved.
By prescription,
individual states will handle it.
They can handle it.
Doctors will handle it.
And
I think it's going to be great.
Then we're quickly studying this drug and while we're continuing to study it, but the studying is going to be also done in as it's given out to large groups of people, perhaps in New York and other places.
We'll study it there.
There are promising therapies produced by Gilead
and that's uh
remdesivoir
remdesivar
and that's a drug used for other purposes that's been out
and said very good results for other purposes.
Just to update here, Glenn, he did specifically call out the drug we were just talking about by name and is going to make it available almost immediately, he said.
So, you know,
I mean, this show obviously moves important things, and we just had the guest on, and now it's approved by the president.
Surely they're tied together.
I was just saying, is the president aware of this?
He's like, I think so.
We sent it to him.
He is.
So that's good news.
And, Stu, what is the stock market doing right now?
Reacting well to the news, up 340 points currently, which is always nice to see.
We've had so many downturns the last couple of weeks.
It's nice to see some positive reaction.
Yeah.
So that is really, really good news.
I was just going over a list of things that I think are true that I don't sit my family down.
I want to go over the things that my gut tells me
are possibilities that we're going to have to look at.
And one of those is
a complete change in the way we
relate to each other and the way we live our lives.
Things are changing rapidly.
Now, if these drugs change, if they come out and they're effective,
that's going to put a pin in all of this quickly.
But that remains to be seen.
I'm going to pick it up there tomorrow because I'm out of time before the break.
And I want to pick it up and tell you what my gut tells me that I'm certainly not saying to my children, but I think you should hear coming up on tomorrow's broadcast.
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and some scary parts as well.
But also, Bill O'Reilly joins us tomorrow, and we've got to get back to talking some politics.
Joe Biden is just, I mean, he's worth his weight in gold for comedy.
Here he is giving a speech where
it's a video conference speech, and he just stops twice in the middle of it.
Finally, his wife, his beautiful wife, Jill, has to come out and just grab him.
Listen to this.
Here's the end of his speech.
Thank you all for listening.
Right.
Then he just stands there and just stares at the camera.
And now Jill comes in and he's like, oh, I hate a kiss.
And she whispers in her ears, it's done.
We're done.
We can go now.
Okay, thanks.
Okay.
I mean, he has no idea where he is.
No idea.
It's so weird.
I can't wait.
You ever type on an old computer and you're like on a word processor and you're typing the words and the letters aren't showing up, and then all of a sudden at the same time, like 50 letters in a row kind of spit out?
Yes.
That's how his brain works.
Like, he gets in these like.
Except they don't think they all spit out in the right order.
That's what I mean.
You don't know.
You can't see.
So you have all sorts of mistypes and everything in there.
Okay, yeah.
You go back and correct them all.
Yeah, I agree with that.
It's not like they're spitting out correctly.
No.
It's all of a sudden it's a different set.
I don't think I wrote that.
I don't think I wrote that.
All right.
we'll see you.
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