Ep 69 | Leftists Need Black America, but Candace Owens Doesn’t Need the Left | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Today I want you to meet the vociferous, charming, and unbelievable 30-year-old woman at the helm of a strange new countercultural movement that is absolutely reshaping America.

A movement so influential that it probably will shape the 2020 election, especially if she's right.

She says that Donald Trump will get 30% of the black vote.

Donald Trump only got 8% of the black vote in 2016.

15% would be a landslide.

She believes between 20 and 30.

Well, 8%

was before she started speaking out and Kanye West started wearing a Make America Great Again hat and hugging Trump in the Oval Office.

Candace Owens is the one that played an enormous role in making that moment happen.

She created Blexit, as in Black Exit, the idea that black people shouldn't have to vote against their own well-being just to appease someone else, especially not under the guise that it's progressive.

And she has taken her movement into the White House and into Congress.

She has really pissed off a lot of people, but she has invigorated many people who felt lost and alone in the world.

Today, I am positive you already know who she is, but I invite you to hear her in this setting.

Recorded in our Mercury studios, it all comes together.

This is one of the episodes after you finish, you're probably going to walk away with the conversation in your mind.

An enrichment, an argument, a rich dialogue, and maybe even a reason to believe today candace owen

i am so excited to talk to you i think you are one of the bravest uh

and most

eager learners uh I have seen in a long time and you're super, super smart and gifted at communication.

But before I get into all of the

things that you have done recently and the transformation in you, I want to know who you

were.

You grew up, your dad was an alcoholic.

You said your life wasn't easy.

Right.

But was it hard?

You know, that's been one of the things that's been the craziest, the craziest element of my political journey is watching the left and the media try to almost whitewash me.

Like, if when you read about Candace Owens, it sounds like I was an overprivileged, rich girl that grew up in Connecticut.

For some reason, just saying you grew up in Connecticut makes people think that you're wealthy.

There's lots of bad places in Connecticut.

Right, really bad and getting worse, actually, right now.

It's sitting on an economic bubble thanks to Democrat policies.

But my life has been tremendously hard.

It's been

a very complicated life.

I grew up with my mother psychologically and physically abusive to me and my siblings.

My dad was an alcoholic.

He wasn't abusive, but he

was financially impotent, couldn't provide for the family, and just tremendously selfish.

That's kind of what comes with the disease of alcoholism, where him drinking came first.

So

I've never been able to relax, meaning that I always had to have a job.

I always had to take care of myself.

From what age?

From forever.

I mean, the first time I had a job, I believe I was 14 years old.

I worked at a video store.

And I've just never not worked.

And I always say that my.

Is that a bad thing?

No, it's not a bad thing at all.

But the anxiety of knowing that you don't have parents that can take care of you,

that's a little different, right?

So everything that I had, it was make or break, right?

There was no fallback plan.

There's a, I guess, a confidence people have when you know that if you really mess up, your parents can help you for a period or can help you pay rent for a bit.

I never had that.

And so I was in and out of my house.

Me and my mom fought a lot.

I was a you know girl that I lived with my boyfriend when I was 15 years old for months because my mom would kick me out for months at a time.

Wow.

When I was yeah, when I was a teenager growing up.

So I had a really, just a really rough upbringing, uncles in prison.

Just what I always say, I guess, is, I guess can be true of a lot of black Americans, what you see growing up because our culture is so broken.

I don't know many black Americans who don't know relatives that were in prison, relatives that have been, you know, arrested, in trouble, and just sort of had this a lot of dysfunction in my household.

I mean, one of my earliest memories, just to give you an idea of the sort of household I grew up in, was my uncle, his girlfriend set him on fire.

Jeez.

Literally, and then this is a sort of dysfunction, and he had to come live with us.

A very tiny apartment, a roach-infested apartment on Tresser Boulevard.

Me and my three sisters share, my two sisters shared a room, so there's three of us in there.

And he had to come live with us for for a bit because he had nowhere else to go and he couldn't, you know, really walk.

He couldn't really do much for a while until he got better.

But this was sort of like my upbringing.

I was saved because my grandparents, when I was nine years old, came to our apartment.

And my granddad

basically said to my parents he didn't want his grandbabies growing up in this climate.

And they moved us into their more middle-class home.

So all nine of us were living in this house.

I was living in the attic.

My parents were living in the basement.

I mean, we were really

trying to make it work.

And

my grandfather just had a different way of life that I would return to after living a very liberal life.

There was a difference in our grandparents.

There was.

You know, especially, I don't know how old your grandparents were, but mine did not.

They were

They were not raised in the 60s.

And

there was just a different work ethic, a different understanding, a much more of a

be your own person.

You are responsible for you, nobody else.

No complaining.

My grandfather never complained.

He just worked every single day of his life.

And it's interesting that you said that

they didn't grow up in the 60s because I had a recent conversation with my granddad, just a heart-to-heart around time when I was getting married.

And I asked him kind of quite seriously, like, why is this, like, why is this your son talking about my father?

I have a good relationship with my father, so I don't want it to paint like I don't.

But just in, you know, the constant irresponsibility, never able to do anything, takes from his children, doesn't give back.

And my granddad said something, he said to me, it was the hippies.

You know, it was the hippie generation that did this.

And I just thought, wow, you know, this idea of liberalism, you know, more freedom, more freedom.

You don't have to have rules or responsibilities.

He was like, they brought in the smoking and the drinking and to live and let live mentality.

So it's interesting that you call that out because that's.

It was the generation

that had done the world,

had gone to World War II.

They came home after a depression, a war.

They had seen horrible things.

They had gone without for so long.

They have children.

All of a sudden, we become relatively wealthy.

Things are going well in America.

And who doesn't want to give their child everything?

And so they had nothing that was bad.

Nothing.

Hard.

And of course, that's the generation you're going to pump out.

And I talk about that.

I mean, I really believe in

my book, I actually wrote a chapter called Over Civilization: What happens when you achieve peace?

That's the period to watch out for.

That's where things can go really bad.

Because when you're not actually striving to correct things that are actually bad, you'll start creating badness around you.

I think that there's something about the human spirit that we want to triumph.

We want to end a war.

We want to say we did something.

And like you said, they didn't have anything because things were good.

And that's also for my generation, millennials, things have been great.

Great.

So we're creating suffering around us, pretending to see it everywhere.

So you said that

you returned to the way of your grandfather.

Yeah.

It took a while.

It took a while.

It did.

Tell me about that period in your life.

Yeah, so I always say to people, like, I took the most liberal route to conservatism.

I took a very liberal route to conservatism.

And I just, you know, I was constantly in trouble.

I was always a very smart person.

You know, I did well in school.

But

there was an upset.

I felt like the world owed me something because so much of my life seemed unfair.

Like the parents that I had, it was unfair.

The money that I didn't have, that was unfair.

I had an education system that was telling me it was because the world is fundamentally unfair.

And the system of capitalism in America and white Republicans is making it unfair.

And I just had a chip on my shoulder through much of my life.

And I found liberalism to be a home for that because liberalism, a liberal perspective sort of welcomes the idea that we shouldn't have to be responsible because the world is just corrupt and backward.

So why should we have to be decent people?

It sort of allows you to absolve all responsibility, all self-responsibility.

And I wasn't like, you know, I was partying, but not more than anybody else was.

I just,

I just,

I was, I was just a bad person.

I don't know how to say it.

I just was a really bad person, a person that I'm not proud of.

And I didn't treat people well.

I wasn't true to my word.

And I was mean.

And that meanness came from an anger, a deep-seated anger.

And then what happened that sort of changed that around was, first off, I got smacked with reality when I left college without a degree and because my student loans got declined going into my senior year, but I had over $100,000 in student loan debt.

Oh my.

And we didn't have Bernie saying he was going to wave a magic wand and get rid of me.

So I hit hit the ground running, and my instinct to work was always there.

My grandfather just raised us to, we just always worked.

It's an Owens quality, as my granddad says.

And I hit the ground running in New York City.

And in New York City, 100 grand, brutal.

Brutal, sleeping on friends' couches.

I mean, I was, you know, not doing well,

babysitting here.

And then I had sort of a big break in that I just started interviewing for jobs as an assistant at private equity firms because I heard that you could make, you know, start out making 50K if you just were an assistant.

And I was like, I can do this.

I know I don't have a degree.

And I got hired on the spot at this firm.

And it really changed things for me because I just saw how much my employers had.

And there was just an interest for me always in terms of wanting to make money, wanting to have and not, you know, just wanting to figure out how I could be wealthy, how I could pay off my student loans, how I could have something.

And I just worked my butt off.

And then the big thing that happened was my grandmother died.

And it completely changed me because she was really the only maternal figure that I had.

My grandmother and my grandmother deeply, deeply faithful.

And the last thing she said to me, we were not expecting her to die.

She was hospitalized for what was supposed to be 48 hours.

She just said, you know, I worry about you.

I worry about you in New York City.

And, you know, I worry about the person that you're becoming.

And I said to her, you know, because I was being flashy, I have this expensive bag, and I thought she would think that it was all cool, and she just thought none of it was cool.

Um, and I think

our grandparents were not that

into it, she wasn't into my Stella McCartney bag, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, and it was her last word she ever spoke to me, and then she died.

Uh, and it took a lot out of me.

I, I, I mean, I still mourn my grandmother's death, uh, it was just it rocked my family because she was, she was the rock, yeah.

Um, and then I just, I wanted to make her proud, you know,

um,

yeah so I uh I just still yeah emotionally I do yeah I really do my grandparents have been just incredible people

so I just sort of dedicated myself to just being a better person whatever I thought that was what what would make my grandparents proud what makes my granddad proud

and I just I just I changed and I started really getting serious about

you know not going out as much

not partying really dedicating myself to getting myself out of out of debt, and understanding the people that they were in context of politics was they were deeply conservative.

And they wouldn't say that.

My grandmother didn't care about politics, but they were deeply conservative.

So were they Republicans or conservative?

Apolitical, but they were conservative.

Yeah, apolitical.

They were not Democrats or Republicans.

Aren't most blacks

conservative?

Right.

Right.

They just don't vote for them.

We just don't know it.

No one turns the lights on and says everything

about the way you were raised is actually conservative.

How do you miss that, though?

I mean, it's

so clear.

Right.

Yeah.

You know, it's funny that you asked that because I've thought deeply about this, obviously, and it's so, what the left has done, you have to give them credit for just how brilliant they have been.

They've

executed a perfect, a royal flush on black America.

And what they did was, it started in the 60s, obviously, with Lyndon Baines-Johnson, the Great Society Act, the breakdown of the family, marrying black America to the government.

Don't marry your baby daddy, marry the government.

We're going to give you more money.

Don't, you know, if there's no man in the household.

Everything starts there.

When you remove the bedrock of the family,

there's still an instinct to pursue paternity and maternity elsewhere.

So where did the kids get that maternity and paternity?

The streets.

The kids race to the streets.

Culture.

Why do you think the left has invested so much time in having a stranglehold on culture?

And this is why culture was so important.

And this is what conservatives, Republicans missed, right?

How important culture is.

Andrew Breitbart knew, right?

He said politics famously, politics is downstream from culture.

And he

was so accurate in saying that.

And so black America invested heavily in culture because they were no longer sitting around the dinner table and learning from mom and dad.

They were being raised by Jay-Z, by Beyoncé, by whatever rapper they idolized, whatever

hip-hop artist they idolized, was now raising them.

And the left and the Democrats put all of their eggs in that basket.

And this is why Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Jay-Z

dancing with her a few nights before election night, even though I'm sure she cannot name even one Jay-Z song or even one Beyonce album.

One might even be called Beyonce.

She wouldn't be able to do it, right?

She wouldn't be able to do it.

But they understood that.

And then the second element is to make sure who else raises the kids.

If it's not the hip-hop artist, you're being raised in school.

The left has a stranglehold on the education system.

Jesse Jackson showing up at Stanford: hey, ho, hey, ho, Western Civ has got to go.

Now Western civilization isn't taught, right?

So it was perfect.

They were able to brainwash

an entire generation, generations of black children by

those two pathways, education and culture.

I knew you hated LBJ,

and I do too.

There are a few presidents that stick out: Jackson,

the second Johnson, the first Johnson is pretty bad too,

and Woodrow Wilson.

But LBJ,

I have a theory on, and I want to pass it by you and see what you think.

How did the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Act in 1958 or 59, he stopped it?

He was the one who blocked it in the Senate.

He was so unbelievably racist.

He hated black people.

How did that guy

bring all of this to the table and say, we're going to heal, we're going to free people, we're going to heal people?

I think that he and those who wrote that knew exactly what they were doing.

Glenn, of course.

And like I say.

there's no history of that.

But there is history.

There's rewritten history.

And if you ask the average black person, when I got out of high school, if you had asked me, Candace, who is the greatest president of all time, I would have said Lyndon Baines Johnson.

It is taught.

If you are a black American, that Lyndon Baines Johnson saved you.

But I'm telling you, there is no record.

I've never seen records.

The record is what you learn in school.

That is the, of course, there's a record, Glenn.

I learned the record.

What are you talking about?

Right.

You mean your research you do outside of the education system?

That's right.

You think that matters right they have 18 years uh well i got you know not if your children go to preschool they have 15 years to pollute your children's minds you know uh with whatever they want 15 years imagine sending your kids to indoctrination camps for 15 years

That's the challenge.

We have to be able to reverse 15 years of indoctrination, right?

This is the left is brilliant.

Lyndon Bayne Johnson was brilliant, right?

You cannot discount the fact that they have been absolutely brilliant.

When I study LBJ and I just go, how is it possible, Candice, that you would have answered the question that he was the greatest president ever for black America?

He's one of the worst.

He was an avowed racist.

Oh, he was openly racist.

I mean, and I talk about, I really talk about this in my book, the things that he would say.

He had a black person he wouldn't even call by their first name because it didn't matter, right?

I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years, right?

There is a clear record that the man was an avowed record, but wasn't avowed racist.

But here's the thing, Glenn.

He was right, right?

He did it.

He did it.

He married Black America to the Democrat Party, right?

So for that, it's evil, but it's brilliant, right?

And for that,

you have to almost respect the devious nature of a Democrat Party.

Yeah,

I'm like that with Woodrow Wilson, who is also, he's one of the worst.

He's the guy who really kind of set this train on the track

and horrible racist and everything else.

And you do have to look at it and say,

you know, that's brilliant.

It's absolutely evil, but it is brilliant.

And they've done it.

I mean, there's some people like that throughout human history, where the most evil people in the entire world, the most evil dictators,

when you study them, you also have to understand they were brilliant, right?

They were horrible.

They were horrible, but they were brilliant that they were able to execute

so much evil on so many people before people caught on.

And that's how it always works.

So much evil is being executed right now by the Democrat Party

upon black America.

And so much evil has been executed since the 1960s and before that too.

You know, really, when we're talking about welfareism, it really starts with the New Deal and FDR.

That was sort of the first time you started seeing Black America go, oh, oh, maybe the Democrats have our best interests at heart.

And LVJ just took it to a whole different level.

But there, I almost appreciate how cunning and devious he was, and he got me too.

I mean, I believed it.

I was celebrating him just a few years ago.

So just tell me what that day was like when you, because I know there were things that I read, things that I discovered that I went,

oh my gosh, and opened a door that I knew when I'd walk across that threshold.

If I accept this change on LBJ,

I'm going to walk through a door and there's no going back.

Tell me about that day when you found that out about him.

Was that a big day for you?

Oh, it's all been a big day.

So here's what I say, because I do want to point to what you just said, because it's so important.

My job with black America isn't to wake them up to every little fact.

My job is to just hit the first domino chip because that's all that had to happen with me.

Just takes one domino chip and then the whole board comes down, right?

It all lays flat and you go, well then, could that have been wrong?

Could that have been?

That's literally what happened to me.

It was just one thing that didn't add up.

And that first thing was the Trump thing, being Being a racist didn't add up, right?

And then so I watched him do the what do you have the lose thing?

And then I watched what the media did.

And I said, has the media, if the media could do this to Trump, who else has the media done this to?

Is it possible?

And then I suddenly started looking at conservative articles, looking at conservative speakers, people that I had dismissed, right, in the same way that so many people were dismissing Trump that I had dismissed as racist.

And I went back and I found all of those Uncle Toms and coons that I knew that I needed to stay away from.

And I listened to them in their entirety.

And I didn't just listen to the media's interpretations of them.

And I was floored, right?

And then it brought me to my real history, to real black history.

And

reading about someone like Lyndon Baines Johnson and really sort of that being the starting point for where we are today,

it's overwhelming.

It's overwhelming.

You feel a lot.

You feel angry for sure.

But I think the biggest thing that I walked away with was a sense of passion.

It wasn't wasn't enough to just know it, right?

I needed to spread it.

And it was like, this is the gospel.

So I've got to let every single black American know that

your whole life can change if you just wake up to the truth.

And there have been people the whole time that have been trying to tell us and we have just routinely dismissed them.

Tell me about

as this changed, well, first, give me your darkest day.

Do you have a dark, darkest day where you were like, was it your grandmother's death?

Or what was the day that

you were

the quintessential

person you don't like?

You know, I've never done anything that like, I was never like a.

Good.

So, yeah, there's no evil, like, oh my God, I was trapped or I was just doing evil to people or anything like that.

I just, when I say I didn't like who I was, I was just, I was pretending.

Right.

Okay.

And I think that that kind of goes hand in hand with being a leftist.

Like, you're pretending that you feel woke and feminists and because you don't have a man, you're doing everything you know, but you're not actually happy, sort of.

That was sort of what I was doing.

Yeah, living a lie.

Living a lie.

So tell me the day, the first day,

where

you saw it in your grandfather's eyes that he was not just proud of you because you've always been great, but he's proud of you because

you've turned a corner and you're turning into an amazing woman.

So I will say this, the thing that, you know, why I get so emotional about my grandparents is because they have been, I mean, unconditional love and they're deeply, deeply religious.

And I mean, every phase of my life, they just, they're just nothing but love.

There's never a time where you can't come and they just don't love you.

But when did I make my grandparents proud?

It's unfortunate that, you know, my grandmother's not alive for this.

But,

you know, my grandfather, it's something that just deeply, you know, used to always really upset my grandfather.

He just has this thing about women drinking.

He's never drank his entire life.

My grandmother never drank.

They never, you know, did any of that.

But he just, it's just something that just really bothered him.

And, you know, I don't drink alcohol.

I did for the six months leading up to my wedding, but I

jumping into it because you just can't say no.

Everyone just constantly giving you bottles of champagne.

I didn't drink on my wedding day, though.

But I just sort of decided when I was jumping into this political thing that I just didn't want to drink alcohol.

I really wanted to be present, like always present.

And I remember sort of talking to my grandfather, and I'd get on the phone with him and ask him more questions about his childhood, his upbringing, what he lived through, what he saw.

And

you could just sense that

just based on the questions I was asking, that he knew that I was there, right?

That I was like, there it is, there, finally, I have

a true legacy.

And

it's been...

Just a beautiful thing to really be able to appreciate everything that my grandfather knows, his wisdom, everything he lived through.

I mean, even his wisdom on when I talk about how the left attacks me and I say, oh, and then you have black people that say, I mean, Uncle Tommy McCoon, he says, you know, baby, there's, there's always been those kind of black people that would say, oh, we shouldn't be working with the white people.

He was like, I never, you know, I never listened to them.

I just got on about my business.

You know, that wisdom of like, that's always going to be there, Kennis.

Accept that.

Accept that there's always going to be people that reject greatness because they don't have it in them.

So it's been, it's been

just every moment of this has been beautiful.

You know, he came to my last political event, my last Blexit,

one of my speeches, and and then one of my Blexit rallies.

And it was just so special to have him there.

So let's go now into that time period of your life.

And

we've talked about

you're listening to the media and they're throwing Donald Trump

in as a racist every step of the way.

He's wildly popular with the black community.

He was a TV

star and

you know, part of pop culture and especially in the black community, right?

That's right.

And you're not buying into any of that, any of the he's a racist.

Right.

I just, it just didn't sound right.

I was just saying, you know, if he was really this horrible person, why are we just finding out now?

I mean, it was almost, it was, it was patronizing.

It was just,

it felt to me what the media was trying to do is like

what adults do to their children.

If you don't clean your room, Santa's not going to come.

You know, it's just, if you vote for Trump, all these horrible things are going to happen.

But we were totally fine celebrating him for decades when he wasn't running for president.

It was so clear that that was about power.

So, did this happen after you had discovered the LBJ fallacy?

No.

Is this the first of the?

Yeah, Trump was first.

You know, it started with questioning my relationship with the media.

That was the first domino chip on the board for me.

I think that's the biggest thing that Donald Trump has done.

Expose the media.

By just saying,

look at over there, they're frauds.

And then they do it.

They do it.

Then they, you know, look at there.

They're lying.

And then they lie.

And you're like, okay, guys, if you want to help yourself, you should just stop what you're doing.

Right.

And they can't help themselves.

They can't help themselves.

I mean,

it's a chronic obsession.

They can't.

And I always say this, what's so crazy.

I genuinely think Trump would have lost if they just left him alone.

I think so too.

I think so, too.

There was enough conservatives that were on the in, enough Democrats that were like, no way, that if they had just chilled a little bit, not tried to paint him as this horrible monster and calling him a Nazi and all of these things, he would have lost.

You might have even gotten him on impeachment,

even though I don't, you know, I think they were wrong about it, but you might have gotten him on impeachment if you hadn't have every 10 minutes said, here's something that's going to be the last straw.

I said that, again, overplaying their hand.

Every time.

It was like if they hadn't done everything prior to that, if they hadn't accused him of, I'm calling her not Christine Blasey for who's the Stormy Daniels, right?

They had the Stormy Daniels thing, the Russian collusion.

It was just too much.

All of it.

All of it.

Actually, I wasn't even interested by that.

I mean, people, like I said, are getting fatigued.

It's just like it's the boy who cried wolves.

Yeah, no, no.

I was interested in the picture hearings.

I was like, obviously, nothing's going to happen.

Yeah, a couple weeks ago, Chuck Schumer came out and said, we have to have an investigation with what's going on between him and William Barr.

And you're like, and you're like, really?

Right.

You really think that's wise?

And it's actually funny because I had lunch with the president about four weeks ago now.

I think it was about four weeks ago at the White House.

And we were just saying, it was me, him, my husband.

And he's got Fox News on.

And he says he is literally the day they announced that they did the vote and he was impeached.

They were sending it to the articles to Senate.

And he's like, can you believe this?

Can you believe this?

You know, they're impeaching me for a perfect phone call.

And he starts asking, he said it exactly what he said, for a perfect phone call.

He said, What do you think about this?

And I said, To be honest, I was like, I find it to be incredibly boring.

I was like, It's just like, I was like, nobody cares.

He's like, You don't think nobody cares.

I'm like, This is obviously not going to go anywhere.

It's going to work in your favor, you know, because people are just fatigued.

If it was the first thing they did, it would have been big.

Big.

But I mean, we're like post-Michael, what's his name?

Michael Wolfe, Michael Wolfe book.

It's just too much.

Everything.

Yeah, I want to turn the TV off now, you know?

If everything, you know, I've said for a long time,

you know, if you tell me that McDonald's food is bad,

okay,

except their french fries are the best french fries out there.

Delicious.

And if they say, and if the person says, no, even their french fries, you have no credibility.

You know, if you can't find the McDonald's french fries in the Trump administration, you have no credibility.

This analogy, if you cannot find the McDonald's french fries, that's so true.

Yeah, I'm like, can say one thing nice about them.

And you remember Hillary couldn't do it.

Right.

And one of their things, he actually paid her a good compliment.

I forgot what he said about her.

And that was a great moment in the debates where he said, okay, why don't you both say something nice about each other?

And I think Trump said something about...

Maybe it wasn't about her children, but he said something nice about her.

And it was a great compliment.

And she couldn't do it

because the left can't do it.

They're incapable of acknowledging if this man has done anything right in his entire life.

He's done stuff that I disagree with that they should love.

He's done stuff for unions that they would never have ever gotten past.

But

no,

no, he's evil.

He's no good.

Orange man bad.

Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense for the average person.

It's so true.

Okay, so

I have to ask you this question because you just talked about having lunch with Donald Trump.

You were admittedly just a nobody.

A nobody.

Now you're sitting having lunch.

Oh, yeah, about four weeks ago, I think it was about four weeks ago, I was having lunch with the president.

Do you have at any point like, what the hell happened?

Yeah, I really do.

I mean, I give it all to God.

It's the only way,

and

you understand this.

First off, being in politics, you're one scandal away from your whole career being over.

And they want me dead.

I mean, there is no person that they hate more than me because I represent an existential threat to them.

And so, you know, for for me,

everything to me is just God, thank God, and thanking the people, the patriots around America who believed in me from the beginning.

I was just a girl who a few years ago uploaded a video on YouTube, you know, and just said, I'm going to try to give black America a different perspective and didn't know where it was going to go.

By my third video, 26 million views worldwide, I'm getting the call from Fox News.

It has been a rocket ship.

And there was nothing behind me.

There was no, you know, business behind me.

There was nothing.

It was just me swimming, treading water, rather, not swimming, treading water, and trying to figure out what it all means, but also taking the time to know

that

it could all be over tomorrow.

And so the one thing that I promised myself was, first off, to always remain humble.

I've seen there's a lot of ego in politics.

There are a lot of people that are in this to be a celebrity.

I've seen a lot of nastiness.

But to also, the one thing that I can control is to do the work.

And that's what you and I were talking about.

It's one thing to have the feeling, which is how I started.

I had a feeling something was wrong.

And I was making videos just kind of being like, all right, guys, everyone can't be racist.

But I wanted to then convert that feeling into a fact.

I wanted to be taken seriously.

I wanted to go back and do the work and

read what's out there from the great black conservatives that have done so much work and have been largely disregarded and dismissed by our community.

I wanted to make my grandparents proud.

And that's an everyday task, right?

There is never going to be a day where I feel like I know enough because it's impossible.

You just told me something that I never knew before we started this podcast.

And now I'm like, oh, I really didn't know that.

I want to go.

I've really got to get to the bottom of that now.

I love that feeling, though.

I always want to be the dumbest person in the room.

Yes.

Everyone, you know, you're smarter than me because you've been around longer than me.

You've been researching this.

You've been on the side of truth longer than me.

But

you know stuff that I don't know.

I know know stuff you don't know.

That's the problem, I think, with progressivism is

when you are told not to talk to somebody

or you take this attitude that I'm just smart and they're stupid,

there's no reason to listen to them.

But if you actually listen, you may still disagree.

But you're going to learn a lot because you're going to see a perspective, if they're honest, you'll see a perspective that is actually well thought out,

at least through their life experiences.

And you'll be like, oh my gosh.

But narcissists can't do that.

And the left consists of a ton of narcissists.

And I've done that time and time again.

There is no leftist program or leftist person that I wouldn't speak to because I feel that I'm on the side of truth, right?

And if I'm not, I want to know

because I'm humble enough to say I'm wrong and I want to pivot that and get smarter at that.

They stay in their bubbles because they're arrogant and they're narcissists.

And this is why Hollywood is a perfect breeding ground for leftism because a lot of them are narcissists as it is.

It's a culture of narcissism.

And so it becomes very easy for them to preach and to say we're all right and to stay in their comfortable spaces.

But they never come over to the other side.

If you were so certain, right, so certain that what you knew was gospel and it was right,

why wouldn't you?

want to go into every single room to say it.

Why doesn't Al Sharpton want to get into a room with Larry Elder?

He's been been trying to debate Larry.

Larry Elder has been trying to debate Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for decades.

They won't do it because they know they're lying, right?

They know that Larry Elder's telling the truth.

And the mask slides off when they get into the room with people that are willing to call them out and know the truth.

Let me take you to another day that had to be really surreal.

Where were you when

JFK got shot?

When Kanye

tweeted your name.

So that story is way crazier than people even realize.

So I had signed to work with Turning Point USA.

And when Charlie Kirk and I got together, Charlie was just the most...

He didn't know anything about culture.

And Charlie wouldn't have known culture if it walked up and punched him in the face and said, hey, I'm culture.

I mean, it was bad.

He didn't know the difference between Jay-Z and Kanye.

And we're sitting in a car ride, you know, because we were traveling together five days a week.

And he was really drilling me on debating, you know, what to expect, you know, making sure that my debate skills were strong and training me a lot in many ways.

And I said to him, Charlie, like, you know, you got to know this stuff.

Culture is important.

And I said to him, you need to know who Kanye West is.

Before Kanye ever tweeted me, it was in December.

And Charlie will tell you the story the exact same way.

And I started making him listen to Kanye's music.

And I said, he's going to be, if there's any person in Hollywood, that will come out and who I believe is conservative, it's Kanye because I followed his career my entire life.

He was the only person that I ever considered myself to be a fan of

because of his general perspective.

He got me through tough times as a kid, his music, because Kanye was a lot, he talked a lot about in his music having the courage

to not be liked, right?

Kanye is a public enemy number one.

I mean, they've tried to kill him.

You can't cancel Kanye because Kanye has been canceled 82,000 times and he's still here, right?

And that's been his career arc.

And so I was listening to a lot of Kanye West music to get myself into politics.

And I was running, and Charlie started running to him every single day.

Three months later, we're both listening to all Kanye music and I was telling this to Nigel Farage's assistant of all people that I loved Kanye West.

Two days later, Nigel Farage's assistant sends me a screenshot of Kanye West

tweet.

I love the way Kennis Owens thinks.

And I thought it was a joke.

Because I was like, okay, I don't, maybe this is like British humor.

Like, I don't, literally, I was like, this is weird.

Like, I was like, I don't really understand why he white.

Like, I don't understand why he photoshopped.

Okay, I get it.

Like, I like Kanye.

And then I went, is there any chance this is real?

And I went to Kanye's Twitter feed and I scrolled down and I saw it.

And I can't even describe to you the feeling that I felt there.

That had to be amazing.

It was just like, you know, when you feel like the universe is conspiring to assist you, one of those moments, because I just knew, I knew he was conservative.

I knew it.

And

I was just, I think I cried.

I was just so like shocked.

And I tweeted back at him, like, you know, please can we meet?

And we did.

You know, I flew out to Los angeles met with him met with his wife we went to uganda together um and it it was he was exactly what i was expecting in the same way that trump is exactly who you think he is kanye west is exactly who you think he is he's not there's not a behind closed door trump and there's not a behind closed door kanye west

and i you know why i cried i know why i cried because

That door that people weren't understanding, Charlie not understanding why he needed to understand culture, Colch not understanding why we need to understand politics, Kanye punched a hole in that culture and politics.

It was able to flow freely, the energy.

And it needed to flow freely if there was going to be change.

And suddenly, people that had never looked up Candace Owens were looking up Candace Owens, right?

And

people who had never really listened to Kanye.

We're listening to Kanye.

The contribution that Kanye West made to politics cannot be understated.

And it got me so angry, the arrogance of some conservatives who went out and said, ignore him.

He's crazy.

Don't listen to him.

And I said, this man just delivered you

a gift.

Here's the thing with, I mean,

I never said anything about you

for

probably a year, even during the Kanye stuff at the beginning of it.

Never said anything about you because

I don't.

I didn't know you and you were young into it.

And you can dip your feet into it and then you can go off a path where all of a sudden you're like, oh, well, you're a fascist.

You know what I mean?

And so you just never know when somebody is really young where they're going to grow, who their influences are.

And the same thing with Kanye.

I talked about,

I think this is great,

but he might be crazy.

He might be doing this for a publicity stunt, but he also might be real.

And it turns out it was real.

And that impact is fantastic.

But we shouldn't put our

nobody should become a conservative because Kanye is a conservative.

Of course not.

You know what I mean?

Of course not.

But the door that he opened, that he said, and it was amazing because you watched him and it

really even wasn't about

any kind of principle other than who the hell are you to tell me what I

can be.

That was it.

And this is what Republicans got so wrong, the ones that criticized him.

They were trying to pretend like Kanye came in and said, I'm a Republican.

People need to listen to me.

He didn't.

No.

He just said, I can love whoever I want to love.

I can be who I want to be.

You can't tell me how I have a thing because of the color of my skin.

What are you disagreeing with?

Is Kanye crazy?

Absolutely.

I can confirm Kanye West is crazy.

There is.

You have to be crazy to put your entire career and your entire family on the line to be who you are.

Sure.

Right.

You have to be crazy to to be where he was and where he is in life in front of MAGA hat.

You have to be out of your freaking mind.

Kanye's crazy is his genius, right?

His unwillingness throughout his entire career for people that didn't follow him to never buckle to the mob.

It didn't start with politics, right?

It started way before that.

Kanye West, when he fell in love with someone, was a stripper, a stripper named Amber Rose, right?

Everyone told him he was not allowed to date Amber Rose.

It was inappropriate.

He loved her.

That was it.

And then he turned her into a fashion icon, and now she's, you know,

she's got a career herself, right?

Kanye West was told he wasn't allowed to be a rapper.

First, he was a producer.

He used to produce for a Jay-Z, right?

And he said, I'm not only just going to be a rapper, I'm going to win a Grammy.

And then when he won the Grammy,

he wore a sign that said, told you so, right?

Kanye West was told he wasn't allowed to like Kim Kardashian, right?

Because she had a porn tape, all of this stuff, and he needed to marry a black woman.

Kanye married her, right?

Kanye's story, his entire story.

story is one of saying, this is how I feel.

And because you tell me I can't feel this, doesn't mean that I'm not going to feel it or do it.

Which is exactly why someone like Kanye West would relate to someone like Donald Trump.

Right.

That's what he loved about him.

Right.

I've always thought if the Democrats were smart,

they would say,

you know, it would make us really angry?

If you start pushing all kinds of welfare onto, we are walking.

Right.

You know what I mean?

You could tell him not to do something.

Right.

And it makes him want to do it.

Right.

More.

And it's not necessarily also because that spirit,

that is one thing that I think when he talked about, Kanye called it dragon energy, but this is a similarity between Trump and Kanye and me, because we're very different people, all three of us.

Our style, our approach, we're very different.

But that energy, right, and it's not contrarian.

It's not contrarian.

I don't just do because someone tells me not to.

If I decide I want to do it, and then someone, a million people tell me not to, or that I can't do it, that's not going to suddenly make me buckle, right?

It almost makes me want to do it more to prove the point that my instincts were correct and to study more and to learn more.

Um, and Kanye has that, right?

He didn't, you know, marry Kim to piss everybody off, he married him because he loved her, right?

And he and because everyone in the hip-hop community didn't want her, wanted to reject her, didn't mean anything to him.

You're so kind of he couldn't get into fashion, he just made it, he's now a billionaire because of his sneaker.

I mean, his story is one that is just absolutely incredible because he's always been successful because he's had the nerve to stand up to the mob.

That used to be called the American spirit.

You know,

you would be over in Europe and you couldn't do it because you didn't have the right position, the right name, the right connections, and you couldn't do it.

Here in America, you could say, you know what, I want to do whatever it is I want to do, and you could do it.

That was an American trait.

Now,

you know,

what kills me is he was, everybody said he was a genius.

And then he became crazy.

And there is very little difference between

the two.

There's very little difference.

His genius is

crazy.

His crazy is his genius.

And I can tell you that, that Kanye is

one of the most fascinating people to be around.

And

it's sad that people's legacies tend to settle after they die.

Do you know what I mean?

And then they're, oh my God, you realize.

But I have realized Kanye's greatness since listening to his album, following his story,

just his lyrics.

It really is about just having the nerve, having the American spirit.

That's what all of it was.

Imagine, hey,

let's get on a boat and cross the ocean.

It's going to take us months.

Half of us will die.

When we get there, probably going to be met by Native Americans who, at least in Jamestown,

were not

good.

You know, they'll probably kill the rest of us.

Let's go do that.

Crazy.

Crazy.

And absolutely genius.

Let's go to the moon in 10 years.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Crazy people move the world forward.

You know what I mean?

And

it's, it's, and why that also was important for me was because it also showed to me, and I say this all the time, but I was better able to assess why the Republican Party was losing for so long with

black America, right?

There was this, this,

the reaction to me, you know, when I arrived arrived on the scene, it wasn't pretty, like, wasn't like I decided to be conservative and suddenly Republicans are like, yay, come, you know, join us.

There were the purity tests, but there was also what people never understood about me was that I am cultural.

I am.

I love culture and I love politics.

And

people kind of, there was this pressure that you got to be just one, right?

You got to just either be a person that wants to be taken very seriously and all about politics, or you're the girl that can hang out with Kanye West.

And this is who I am.

I'm a girl that's super intellectual, but I love culture.

I pay attention to culture, and I communicate culturally to people.

And I think that that's what people gravitate towards.

And it's what the Republicans have always missed since Ronald Reagan.

Absolutely.

And Trump, by the way.

Yeah.

Cultural.

Yeah.

Let me talk about one other name, what the day was like

when you

realized that your name was in the manifesto of the guy from New Zealand that killed 50 people.

Yeah.

What was that day like?

So I never actually talked about this.

So I had just gotten engaged

and I was in London at the time and I was really meeting my husband's parents and family for the first time.

So it was already a very stressful trip for me.

And my fiancé and I were sleeping in bed and at about 3.30, 4 a.m., my phone starts zinging like crazy.

And like, you know, the nick sort of jars you out of, you know, when you go, something's going on.

I look at my phone.

And uh charlie's publicist uh had messaged me and said you got to issue a statement asap and i said uh groggy i'm like issue a statement for what and he's like the mosque shooting in new zealand i think he's like being funny i'm like what the hell would i candace owens in america have to issue a statement about the mosque shooting in new zealand for so i go on to twitter and i my it's just explosive it always explosive but this was like all the journalists like and candace inspired uh a mass shooting and i the first thing i wrote was like lol

are you crazy?

Like, this is just, this is so crazy.

You can't even think.

This is like, it was...

It was too crazy to even try to understand the crazy, you know?

And then it was real suddenly.

My name was being spoken about internationally.

I had requests from the

everywhere in America, MSNBC, CNN, everywhere from France

to Asia.

I mean, it was just completely crazy asking me to issue a statement.

And I eventually did.

And of course said, while I'm very sorry for this horrible tragedy to have happened, it is pointedly ridiculous to pretend that black conservatism in America is somehow influencing, you know,

mosques.

I mean, like, you know, Islam.

And it's not, I don't even speak about Islam.

It's just, it was so crazy and ludicrous.

But it was the first time that, you know, the next day I woke up and I had these spots all over my body.

I didn't know what the heck was going on.

So I went to the dermatologist and he says to me, you know, have you been under any stress lately?

Quite hilariously.

I love that.

You know, just a little bit, you know, being accused for killing people.

So it was the first time I actually had a stress-induced physical reaction to something that had happened.

And it really showed to me how serious Aleph was about taking me out.

You know,

because they were willing to assign

to assign credence to the words of a psychopathic maniac in New Zealand in an effort to take me out, you know, in an effort to cancel Candace.

So, you know, in situations like that, you either you get stronger or you die, and I got, you know, I got stronger.

Let's talk a little bit about the media because I have

had my share of media trying to destroy you, and they can do a really good job of it.

How have you dealt with it?

How much of it is how much of it

hits you?

It doesn't really anymore.

It's really weird.

And I think what happened, what I have gone through, is the same thing that Trump has gone through and the same thing that Kanye went through, where the media can only try to kill you so many times, right, before they're just, they're done.

I mean, what else could you throw at me?

You've accused me of killing people I had nothing to do with.

You accused me of being a self-hating black.

You've accused me of being a Nazi.

There's just not much left to throw at Candace Candace Owens.

And I think they know that, and that almost makes them hate me more

because nothing can land anymore.

And I am saved, by the way, I am fortunate because the things that I went through with the media had another person gone through.

Like, for example, when they tried to pretend that I supported Hitler, right?

Charlie Kirk would not have survived that.

Just because Charlie Kirk is white and he's male.

I survived it only

because it just doesn't stick the same when you start calling black people Nazis, right?

As hard as they tried and they tried really hard with that, it just didn't land the same.

So, in a weird way,

I'm still here because I have a little bit of black privilege in that regard, right?

But yeah, now I just don't pay attention to them.

It just doesn't, it's just not the same anymore because I just figured them out.

And every time they write about me, the media created me.

So, there was a study out

on New York Times readers that when the New York Times came out and endorsed,

who was it?

Buddha Judge, maybe, and Klobuchar?

It was Elizabeth Warren.

It was Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar.

That the people who read the New York Times and read their opinion piece,

there was a 5% change, but it was toward Biden.

Oh, that's interesting.

Those people made their recommendations, and those who read it actually changed their vote 5% away from what they did.

And I wondered,

is that just an odd ball sitting out there?

Or is that a sign that

even the New York Times readers are so sick and tired of being told what to do from these people in their ivory towers that if you recommend something, yeah,

I probably don't, I'm probably going my own way.

Yeah, I wonder about that.

I wonder about,

at the end of the day, did the media help or hurt me?

They helped you.

They helped me.

They helped you.

At the end of the day, did the media help or hurt Trump?

Helped him.

They helped him.

They created him.

They created it.

And in many ways, they created me because they just couldn't deal with the fact that there was a black conservative that was gaining a little bit of popularity.

But when they started doing attacks on me, I mean, I had like 40,000 followers on Twitter.

They created, they just, you know, because they hated me so much.

So, in many ways, they can sometimes

throw gasoline on embers in that way.

And so,

I owe part of why I'm here to the mainstream, the leftist mainstream media hating me.

But do you think that they have so overplayed their hand that, I mean, I think they really think they can affect an election still.

And I don't think they can.

And it goes back to what I was saying to you about narcissism, right?

So you would think after the humiliating blow of what Trump did to them in 2016, right?

Humbled them.

A little bit.

A little bit.

At least, if you can't humble yourself, hire the marketing firm to come in and tell you how you should.

They didn't pivot one damn strategy.

no they they it's the exact same they quadrupled down they didn't even double down they quadrupled down we said half of America was racist what if we call them all racist like I mean like literally like it's the exact same strategy 2016 on steroids yeah right we're gonna call them more names we didn't call them racist enough right we didn't tell them they hate America I mean it's I'm like how can you be this arrogant?

It's incredible.

I mean, after a loss like that, you would just think, just someone on the campaign, someone at the DNC, right, would say, Hey, guys, maybe let's uh let's not call every single person half of America or all these Trump supporters names.

You can you can run a campaign.

Um, and I think that I mean, I lived in that world for a while, and if you there's comes a point to where

you want it, and it's early on,

and you'll get a bite of fame, acceptance, cool kid, just on the edge of it for us, just on the edge of it.

Access, money, they'll give you anything because you're performing at the top of the game.

Right.

And the minute you go,

this is kind of cool, you're dead if you don't get out.

Right.

Because it doesn't stay.

Okay.

You always have to top.

And so you will do any, after a while, you'll make one little compromise, one little compromise, and before you know it, you're not that person anymore.

Right.

You know what?

That's actually the story of Beto O'Rourke.

Yes.

Yes.

You just nailed that story.

Because, I mean, that is that, his arc, I mean, he just went from like, he just was chasing that feeling of almost beating Ted Cruz and the crowds.

And then by the end of it, he was like this weird, rambling leftist.

I take the guns.

I'm like, what do you, do you even believe that?

You're from Texas.

What are you?

Come on, man.

Like, what are you saying?

And he just, he died by it.

He died by it very quickly.

He wanted it.

He wanted it so bad.

So bad.

Just that little feeling of people cheering his name, and he wanted it so bad.

And I think that is why the press is so miserable.

They want it.

This is Hollywood, too.

They want it.

They got it.

And it's empty.

Right.

And now someone is challenging that worldview and none of them, they all look at each other.

They're in it together.

And no.

You know, it's one thing to say, maybe I'm wrong, but when you're surrounded by a shipload of people who are all saying we're not wrong

they might question themselves but when in a group no one's going to say that because the ship is going down you know what i mean yeah and and i was really the the hollywood ship is one to watch because it's sinking It's sinking very slowly.

We're at such an interesting time in this country.

Really, there's just so much I want to say.

Everything's changing.

The idolatry, the sin of idolatry, really, which is so funny because you just go back to the Bible and you're like, yep, that was right too.

My grandparents had a thing about idolizing people, and they used to say that I idolized Christian Aguilera, which I kind of did.

So you saw them for TRL and B-Geni in a bottle, whatever.

And like,

what was wrong with idolatry, though?

And this is, you know, literally, we're learning this lesson so much.

What's wrong with idolatry?

And false gods.

Hollywood are the demigods.

They've been the false gods.

And now government and politician, for some of them,

has become their Right.

That's exactly right.

So what's going to happen with Hollywood, I mean, even these things, these traces of like, you know, Taylor Swift, you know, trying to send everybody against

Martha in Tennessee.

Do you remember the the the Tennessee Senate race where Taylor Swift wrote a whole diatribe saying that this

woman

Marsha Blackburn this woman is a sexist, massager did her Taylor Swift thing, and she still won.

Marsha still won, right?

Which which says something.

Because I'm telling you, even

five years ago, anything Taylor Swift said was just, you know, it's what you do.

And it ended up, they could have said anything in the old days and wouldn't tarnish them.

That's right.

Now,

you look at Taylor Swift entirely differently.

Totally differently.

And well, you know what's funny?

Talk about somebody who's genius and always forward who took the trophy from her.

Kanye West, all those years ago.

I go back on that moment.

In America, we booed the wrong people who booed the wrong goals.

He was yay new.

Take it from her.

Just interrupt her, right?

Oh my gosh.

There's just so much happening here.

And I look at that moment.

I'm like, man, hey, man, Kanye really is a forward thinker there.

And she was a sad puppy victim.

But, you know, and what was funny about that moment, by the way,

to go back to that moment of him taking the trophy from her, he told the truth.

For those of us that follow culture,

it was crazy that Taylor Swift won that award.

It was so clear that, you know, the Grammy gods, whatever, that just gave it to her to please a certain audience.

He was right.

Beyonce came out with a music video that was like, it was unbelievable.

And they gave it to Taylor Swift, who was dressed as a princess because she had all of these eight-year-old fans and she literally played like Cinderella in a really cheesy, horrible music video.

And he got killed because he told the truth.

To me, when I think about that now in the retrospect,

just so much could be said about this fight for us to tell the truth, right?

And these people like Taylor Swift playing dress up and you think they're the victim.

You think they're the victim, but they're not, you know?

So it's just, it's an interesting moment to look back on.

And there could be a whole book written about that.

They're really good.

Three books.

Three books that you read that changed your life.

Oh, gosh.

Okay, so for Black America, you have to, any time is soul.

But Race and Intellectuals is a one that just completely, he just, it destroys it.

You can never, ever, ever say it's because I'm black after you read that.

How the West Was Won by Rodney Stark.

That one, just if you don't know why you should love America or why the West is the best, I would say that changed.

And then

I kind of want to pick one that has nothing to do with politics that I just,

that totally shaped me.

I don't know.

Who would be the third book?

I would want to pick something apolitical.

I'll have to think about it.

Like something that just was so random that like totally, you know, like I was just like, because I do do read a lot of fiction, too.

I love fiction books, too.

Yeah, I can't think of one at the moment that that's coming up.

What's your favorite fiction, kind of fiction or fiction?

I hate to say this, like, you know, because it's so brilliant, but I hate her so much.

But you have to give credit to Harry Potter.

It was just, they're so well written.

I didn't know the movies, they are just so well written.

And if you're like me and you're just like, you're just wildly imaginative, it's just that series was so one of my one of my favorite writers, and it kills me because he calls me Satan's younger brother,

Stephen King.

Right.

Oh, yeah.

I read tons.

Yeah, my mother was obsessed with Stephen King, and I will say that about my mother.

She was, that was the gift that she gave me was love for books.

Yeah.

And he's just, he's great.

He's great.

He's a nightmare.

But, you know, there was a time when we wouldn't,

we didn't care.

We didn't care.

You know, I still don't care.

I still, I mean, unless you're,

you know, just despicable and, you know, aiding the Communist Party in China, rounding people up.

Right.

You know,

I still don't care what your political view is.

Right.

You used to be able to be friends.

You used to be able to.

Now you can't.

Yeah.

And that's, it's sad.

So

what's on your radar

now?

Like,

what's a five-year goal for you?

Everyone asks me this, and the reason why I can't have an answer to that is because if you had told me five years ago, I'd be sitting across from Glenn Beck.

Both of us conservative, Republicans, I would have been like, you are smoking crack cocaine.

So

I can't say because I almost feel like I am on some crazy magic carpet ride, and I don't know where

it's being led by somebody else.

I don't know where it's going to end.

But I can tell you where my focus is

for first is just to wake up Black America.

I think Black America is a linchpin for everything that we are trying to fight in America.

Everything the left does, it all ends when Black America wakes up.

And we can talk about radical feminism, which I am, as soon as I'm done with Black America, I might do at the same time.

I kind of try to kill them both, but I'm going after this radical feminist movement.

And the reason why I say Black America is a linchpin is because everything starts and ends when black people say no more.

So think about any movement right now.

That's crazy.

Like I'm so outwardly spoken against the trans movement.

Don't even get me me started.

They call me like the transphobic.

Give it to me.

I know where this is going to end.

That is one of the most dangerous things that's happening right now.

Weakening men, turning men into women.

It is an evil thing that's happening right now with the trans movement.

You know, I happen to be a very religious person.

And

if I were the Prince of Darkness and I was thinking, how do I destroy people?

I would destroy their sexuality.

I would destroy their gender.

I would destroy their families.

I would destroy absolutely everything that is the fundamental building block of who we are.

And that's what's happening.

Just the trans movement does that, like right by itself, teaching people to mutilate themselves.

Oh, yeah.

Can't give birth going down the line.

Your family's hard to store.

I mean,

there is no, you know,

I remember 20 years ago saying, It won't be long before we buy into this, this, and this.

And people said, you're out of your mind and we've long passed those things and we're now at a place to where

they destroy you if you will not accept and preach

that men

can have periods and babies.

They're starting to put tampons in men's restrooms.

The ACLU just fought for that.

So you what's happening to us is if I can get you to fall in line on something you know is absolutely untrue, everything else is easy.

Right.

Right.

And here's the thing about that and what the left is doing and why I never, I will never play the game.

There are even some concerns like, oh, you know, if the person wants to be called this, I'll do that.

I'll never do it.

And here's why.

If you met a person that was schizophrenic, right?

And there are people that suffer from schizophrenia, and they believed in a certain reality.

I actually have a stalker and I had to get a restraining order of a person who suffers from schizophrenia.

And he believes that we're in a relationship.

If he believes every tweet that I have, he will interpret this conversation of me and you subliminally talking about him.

And then he just sends me tons of emails about what happened, right?

Imagine a world where we would condone his reality.

Why would we pretend to him that he actually is in a relationship with me?

No, we tell him he needs to get help, right?

The left is now demanding that we all pretend, right, that we're crazy, that that's the right way.

Like if some, if other people see themselves as this, right?

If I see myself as Glenn Beck, then everyone in here needs to start pretending that I'm Glenn Beck, right?

You are wearing his jacket.

I am wearing his jacket, right?

And that's it, and that's all it takes.

And then if you say, no, you're not Glenn Beck, you're the person that should be chastised.

You're the person that should be run out of here.

There's something wrong with you because you're a bigot because you don't accept that I think that I'm Glenn Beck.

That's called playing the crazy game.

And you cannot give up even a little bit of reality.

You cannot play a little bit of the crazy game before it's all gone.

The slope is too slippery.

The stakes are too high.

So when I see a man, I don't care what he thinks he is.

I acknowledge him to be a man.

You know, when I see a woman and I don't care what she thinks she is, I acknowledge her to be a woman, right?

Get well soon.

I want you to get help.

I don't think people should be harmed because they're suffering from various disorders and diseases.

But the left, what they're doing right now and trying to make things that are false, right?

Patently false,

to force us to accept it as reality.

It is so dangerous.

It is so dangerous.

I don't know why people don't understand

political

correctness.

Just those two words are terrifying.

You have to be correct with the political class.

So who has power?

What do they say is correct?

And that's all right for you to say.

That's...

what had Galileo locked into a tower.

He would not say what the political people say is true is true.

They are politically and factually

incorrect.

You know, you can be politically correct all you want, but that leads to a flat earth.

And how people don't see that,

he's not politically correct.

Good.

So the definition or a synonym for political correctness is lie.

That's what it means.

Political correctness means lie, right?

Be politically correct, lie.

Don't tell the truth.

You need to be politically correct.

Political correctness is a word for a lie, right?

And I won't lie, right?

So there's a difference between polite

and political correctness.

And we associate, too many, especially early on,

associated being polite.

We are polite people.

We don't want to hurt people's feelings.

We don't, I want to get along with everybody.

And, you know, so if that word makes you, okay,

but then it gets to

be crazy.

Wait, what?

You're now a big, beautiful butterfly, and I have to call you a butterfly?

You're no.

You know, it's funny because there's a story that my parents tell me when we lived in the, in the,

when we, when we were super poor, and we were in this elevator going up to the 14th floor, which is where we lived.

And I was, I, I think I was five years old or I was four.

And they stepped in the elevator.

My mom and dad got the mail.

And last second, a hand went in, you know, the elevator is about to close and it was a guy and he was really, really, really, really fat, like beyond, like clinically obese.

I don't remember the story at all.

My parents just tell me it.

And instantly, my parents tightened up because, like, you know, kids forget it, you know, forget it.

So they knew, and they, and I was hitting my, my, my, my dad's leg and saying, you know, guys, guys, guys, pay attention.

They were ignoring me.

And I just said, look, he's so fat.

Like, he's so, so fat, right?

So

why I'm telling that story is because children naturally have no political correctness.

They are, they are the most honest people in the entire world.

And parents teach them to be polite.

It is impolite, right, for me to be in an elevator and tell a man that he's fat, right?

But it is political correctness, which means a lie for me to look up at that man and say, you're skinny, right?

That's the difference.

That's dangerous.

That's dangerous, right?

That's a totally different thing to be telling people that they need to now start, you know, playing the crazy game.

So a lot of where my career is going is

really focusing on a lot of what the left is doing and correlating it to Black America because I think everything starts and ends with Black America.

If you tell a black mother that you've been calling her son Michael

Susan all day at school,

the whole calling kids lightly picked up at school ends when black moms sit up and say enough is enough, right?

Any of the radical feminists up, as soon as black America says no to it, because what the left has done is they've used black America to be able to do everything.

That's why

they position it to black America first and foremost, right?

Get on our side about this.

This is for you, right?

We're trying to, Me Too movement, they said originally it was supposed to be about, you know, helping, helping, helping black people.

Everything they do is about helping black people.

Well, what happens when the victims say no, thank you, right?

Then you're looking at what it is: a bunch of rich, liberal, elitist, you know, white Democrats that are trying to control the entire world.

So remove the victim class.

I have

a good friend who used to be

an intern of mine, ended up being my assistant for a while.

He went to Columbia University.

He was interning for me when he was in Columbia.

He's a black guy,

smart, smart, smart, smart, smart.

And

I told him when he started interning, I said, do not tell them you interned for me.

Don't, don't.

And he's like, oh, I'm not a stupid man.

I know that.

And

so he didn't say anything

his whole time, two years, never said anything to them.

It was the last semester before he graduated.

And

he came in one day and he was just shaking mad.

He was so mad.

And that the professor had decided to use the class time to

ask the students to compare me to which dictator?

Would it be Pol Pot?

Would it be Hitler?

Would it be Mao?

I mean, literally for an hour, and they discussed it.

And he couldn't take it anymore.

And he raised his hand and he said, I said, oh, John, you didn't, you didn't.

And he said oh no I I knew exactly what to say that shut that conversation down and I said what and he said I raised my hand and he said

I think he's more like Martin Luther King

and the professor who was white didn't know what to do was like

okay

and they moved on that's it

I mean he just

took it away yeah

it's the power that black America has because we have been used as the victims.

As soon as the victims say no more,

what are you doing?

Then you just look like, you look crazy.

You just look crazy.

So that's really my focus.

I think really, and I say you can save America if you save black America first.

That's why I believe that, because the left has given so much power to black America, all of its power.

They're completely dependent on black America.

I'm going to end with this.

I saw you speak.

I've seen you speak on video before.

From the beginning, I've watched you from afar.

The difference a year has made with you is remarkable.

And I saw you speak, I think, in December of last year.

And I sat out in the audience and I just watched you.

And

I think you are one of the most powerful speakers I've seen.

And

I honestly believe, and I'm not going to ask you anything about this, but I honestly believe

if I were the left,

you're Michelle Obama

in

spades.

I mean, you're just

every hand, you're Michelle Obama.

You have that kind of power.

You know culture.

You're well spoken.

You're smart.

You're likable.

I can't wait to see what you do with the opportunities you've been dealt and the work that I know you're putting in.

You have a very, very long and bright future.

I'm excited to see it.

That's a really huge compliment coming from you.

And, you know, just really, for me, it's just about, I don't want to let people down.

I don't want to let myself down.

I don't want to let my grandparents down.

And every single day, I just put in the work.

And I know I'm just at the beginning.

I mean, you've been doing this for a long time, and you still have to learn.

Oh, my gosh, read all the time.

That's the pressure.

We have to be smarter.

We have to be truer, and we have to work harder.

Pleasure.

Thank you so much.

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