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Speaker 7 We're going to give you the recap of the debate.

Speaker 8 Lots of fun.

Speaker 5 Lots of fun.

Speaker 9 And it couldn't be at the expense of a better group of people.

Speaker 5 So we'll tell you what happened in the Democratic debate. Also, Bloomberg was accused of calling somebody a horse-faced lesbian

Speaker 6 and a fat...

Speaker 8 What was it?

Speaker 7 A fat wench or something like that.

Speaker 5 Well, I looked up where that came from.

Speaker 6 Oh, she should have quoted the whole whole thing.

Speaker 12 Wait until you hear the actual quote and where it came from.

Speaker 6 Also, we try to look at what good has ever come out of a communist country.

Speaker 6 And the 1776 project, which is the answer to the 1619 project from the New York Times, why this is so critical that people understand.

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Speaker 18 So, Bloomberg makes his first appearance, and everybody is so desperate, they all have to take Bloomberg out.

Speaker 27 So, the guns, even from sweet little grandma Elizabeth Warren, who just doesn't like to say a bad word word about anybody.

Speaker 28 She had some words saved up for him last night.

Speaker 31 Here's Bloomberg as he tries to make his case.

Speaker 33 Bloomberg makes his case.

Speaker 34 I'm a New Yorker.

Speaker 35 I know how to take on an arrogant con man like Donald Trump that comes from New York. I'm a mayor.
I was a mayor. I know how to run a complicated city, the biggest, most diverse city in this country.

Speaker 35 I'm a manager. I knew what to do after 9-11 and brought the city back stronger than ever.
And I'm a philanthropist who didn't inherit his money, but made his money.

Speaker 35 And I'm spending that money to get rid of Donald Trump, the worst president we have ever had. And if I can get that done, it will be a great contribution to America and to my kids.

Speaker 3 Wow, compelling, isn't it?

Speaker 13 You know, it's funny because he doesn't strike me as America's neighbor.

Speaker 36 I thought that was a mayor.

Speaker 38 I thought that was Rudy Giuliani that really brought the city together. He's the one that everybody looks at, not Michael Bloomberg.

Speaker 41 It was Bloomberg's night last night to be taken apart, and Elizabeth Warren had a lot to do with it.

Speaker 8 Listen to Warren, one billionaire for another.

Speaker 7 Do we have that?

Speaker 44 Can we, Sarah?

Speaker 45 I'd like to talk about who we're running against. A billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced horse-faced lesbians.
And no, I'm not talking about Donald Trump.

Speaker 45 I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg.

Speaker 45 Democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns, of harassing women, and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and frisk.

Speaker 45 Look, I'll support whoever the Democratic nominee is, but understand this. Democrats take a huge risk if we just substitute one arrogant billionaire for another.

Speaker 33 You know, this kills me.

Speaker 11 First of all, she's right.

Speaker 8 One arrogant billionaire for another.

Speaker 5 One is actually kind of charming, and the other one is just an ass.

Speaker 39 But

Speaker 13 it kills me that they keep saying, I'll support whoever the nominee is.

Speaker 15 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 48 Do you see who's up on the stage with you?

Speaker 18 I mean, it's one thing if you're like, look, you you know it's Mitt Romney it's George Bush it's John McCain they're all kind of the same

Speaker 41 the you know I don't know if it's Ronald Reagan Mussolini I'll vote for whoever the people want uh no I don't think that's a good idea isn't the lesson here though that the Democrats I mean they're all pretty much the same Yes, yes, they just

Speaker 8 claim not to be.

Speaker 19 Varying levels of transparency on that, but they're all pretty much the same.

Speaker 49 So here's, this is, let me give you just the

Speaker 23 feeling of what really, if you didn't watch it, here's what you missed.

Speaker 20 Cut one audio, please.

Speaker 22 The Affordable Care Act, not blow it out. Let me just say, I will tell you.

Speaker 22 Let me get Senator Sanders back to you. You are.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Senator Sanders.

Speaker 22 We'll get you in, Miss. All right.
We've got a lot of people in here.

Speaker 22 We got hits of push. Some.

Speaker 34 I mean,

Speaker 16 that is the chaos of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 40 Meanwhile, you had Donald Trump at a rally out in, I think it was California, wasn't it?

Speaker 36 And

Speaker 8 the people carried a World War II veteran on their shoulders into the arena.

Speaker 56 One makes you feel good about America.

Speaker 51 The other one just tears it apart.

Speaker 40 Which do you think Americans are going to vote for?

Speaker 12 I mean, Ronald, he has become Donald Trump because the Democrats are so nasty and angry and

Speaker 26 fighting and the

Speaker 29 what is it?

Speaker 60 The Bernie Boys, which I think is

Speaker 46 just really a bad name for these guys.

Speaker 8 The Bernie Boys.

Speaker 7 The Bernie Bros or Bernie bros.

Speaker 5 It makes it sound like they're just, you know, oh, they're crazy boys.

Speaker 51 You know, boys will be boys. No.

Speaker 18 No, the Bernie Bros are dangerous people.

Speaker 33 You've got, with what's happening on the the left and with the Democrats,

Speaker 15 it makes Donald Trump look more optimistic, more like Ronald Reagan, more of the happy warrior than he ever has.

Speaker 58 They are just a group of nasty, angry, unhappy people.

Speaker 2 And I don't know why Buddha Judge is not doing better than

Speaker 42 he is, other than he's clearly not qualified um

Speaker 6 and the and the voting base you know you want to talk about homophobes

Speaker 8 did you hear anybody did you hear anybody on the right have a problem with Donald Trump when he had

Speaker 19 what's his name Peter Thiel speak at the Republican convention or the fact I've heard a lot of problems with Donald Trump naming the first gay cabinet level position member in American history which is happening right now with Grinnell

Speaker 19 and they say who pissed off about that.

Speaker 29 Yeah. Who even knows?

Speaker 55 Who even really knows that?

Speaker 26 Nobody's paying attention.

Speaker 49 Nobody's up in arms about that except the left.

Speaker 65 Left.

Speaker 8 Nobody is up in arms about that.

Speaker 37 But wait a minute.

Speaker 36 You've got a gay presidential candidate in Buddha Judge?

Speaker 25 Oh, dear God, no.

Speaker 66 Their own people are turning away from it.

Speaker 49 I mean, it is astounding.

Speaker 18 Now, here's Pete Buddhajudge last night.

Speaker 6 Listen to what he had to say.

Speaker 68 Most Americans don't see see where they fit if they've got to choose between a socialist who thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil and a billionaire who thinks that money ought to be the root of all power.

Speaker 68 Let's put forward somebody who actually lives and works in a middle-class neighborhood in an industrial Midwestern city.

Speaker 69 Let's put forward somebody who's actually a Democrat. Look.

Speaker 12 That's the line of the night.

Speaker 71 That's a good point.

Speaker 37 To me, that's the line of the night.

Speaker 61 Let's put forth an actual Democrat. It's the Democratic Convention.

Speaker 26 It's the Democratic primary.

Speaker 18 You're running Bloomberg, who's whatever it is on a windy day.

Speaker 33 If the wind's blowing this direction, he's that. If he's on that way,

Speaker 18 he was a Republican just a few years ago.

Speaker 19 Basically, Charlie Christ.

Speaker 16 Yeah, he's just whatever he needs to be.

Speaker 47 And Bernie Sanders, and I got to stop calling him a socialist.

Speaker 8 He's not.

Speaker 63 He's a communist.

Speaker 33 He has never met a communist regime that he didn't like.

Speaker 8 Not one.

Speaker 4 Not one.

Speaker 19 Communism, it was a low blow

Speaker 19 because Bloomberg said that last night. He went on about whether, you know, we've tried this before, right? Like, we're not going to get rid of capitalism.

Speaker 29 We've tried the alternate.

Speaker 19 It's called communism.

Speaker 40 And everyone's like, oh.

Speaker 19 And then Bernie came out the next question. He goes, by the way, you said he's called me a communist.

Speaker 29 And that was a low blow.

Speaker 3 Why is it a low blow?

Speaker 25 I mean, like, I love this idea.

Speaker 19 You're a socialist and you think communism is a low blow. Let's put them all in a larger category called Marxism.

Speaker 54 Right. You're a Marxist.
How about that?

Speaker 16 And you know what?

Speaker 48 You know what's crazy?

Speaker 16 Is it shows that they are just playing on people's naivety.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 26 They don't, people don't understand that communism has actually never been done. The Soviet Union and China, they claim to be communists, but that's not it.

Speaker 26 If you understand Marx, Marx says socialism is the road to communism. You don't get to communism until everybody's like, oh, you know what?

Speaker 55 I'm so happy.

Speaker 18 We don't need a stupid gulag anymore.

Speaker 15 We're all here and we're all just going to share the wealth.

Speaker 72 Well, that's never happened.

Speaker 51 Nor will it ever happen until Jesus comes and everybody says, you know what?

Speaker 33 I just love him so much.

Speaker 48 Here, take what you want of my stuff.

Speaker 72 That will never happen.

Speaker 12 Never.

Speaker 5 But that's what communism is.

Speaker 36 Communism gets this name of

Speaker 41 this bad name because you got to take it by force.

Speaker 26 You have gulags, you have indoctrination camps, all of that stuff.

Speaker 18 That, my friend, is socialism.

Speaker 56 That is what brings you to communism because the only way to do it is to kill all the people that like, no, you're not taking my stuff.

Speaker 15 No, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 62 Those people have to be re-educated or killed.

Speaker 5 Once you get rid of them, well, then you're fine.

Speaker 74 By the way,

Speaker 3 I'm a little more

Speaker 24 outspoken on Bernie today

Speaker 37 because we have a meeting after we finish our Wednesday night special.

Speaker 36 And we are already now a week into what's coming next Wednesday.

Speaker 38 And last night I had a meeting, and again this morning, and I went over all of the audio and all of the video that we have for next week's Wednesday night special, which is on Bernie Sanders

Speaker 72 and his communist radical ties and the people in his campaign.

Speaker 40 This man is a danger.

Speaker 73 And I am so sick and tired of having people tell me when

Speaker 51 Jeremiah Wright's

Speaker 16 pupil was sitting in the in the White House and I said, the guy's a Marxist, the guy's a socialist.

Speaker 18 Oh, how dare you, you racist.

Speaker 61 In 2004, when I warned the Democrats, don't put Michael Moore in the presidential box because he is a socialist Marxist.

Speaker 56 And you think you're using him.

Speaker 26 But I'm telling you right now, they're going to come back.

Speaker 18 You are going to be so surprised.

Speaker 15 You're using them them right they're using you buddy and they're going to eat you

Speaker 26 I'm so sick and tired of being told oh that's just nonsense it's not it's very apparent now isn't it listen because this may be the last warning you get

Speaker 10 Bernie Sanders has surrounded himself with very dangerous people

Speaker 51 and you're going to meet all of them next Wednesday

Speaker 40 there is a chance that Bernie Sanders actually gets the nomination.

Speaker 14 Now,

Speaker 52 I don't see that happening, and it will be a colossal disaster if he does for the Democrats.

Speaker 78 But it couldn't happen to a better group of people.

Speaker 26 However, if Bernie Sanders, if they try to engineer this, or even if somebody like Bloomberg gets that nomination,

Speaker 8 legitimately, Bernie Sanders and his Bernie bros will burn Milwaukee to the ground.

Speaker 72 These people are serious, Marxist, communist, radical anarchists.

Speaker 8 Last warning, America.

Speaker 5 You're about to put one of these guys in office.

Speaker 42 Last warning.

Speaker 80 You know, here's the

Speaker 8 here's the problem with Buddha Judge. I mean, Buddha Judge, can I go to audio cut number 22, please?

Speaker 20 Buddha Judge has been lecturing people on Christianity for a while, and this one, I don't know how people in South Carolina took this.

Speaker 8 Cut 22, please.

Speaker 21 Then I just can't imagine that that requires of you

Speaker 82 But I will say I cannot find any compatibility between the way this president conducts himself and anything that I find in scripture.

Speaker 82 Now, I guess that's my interpretation, but I think that's a lot of people's interpretation, and that interpretation deserves a voice.

Speaker 44 Okay, okay, very good.

Speaker 18 Except the fact that a lot of people would find your lifestyle antithetical to what it's found in the Bible.

Speaker 61 I mean, you just peek.

Speaker 70 You can't make this claim.

Speaker 8 You know, I just don't know how you would vote for him because the way he lives his life, I mean,

Speaker 4 you can't find that in the Bible.

Speaker 5 Well, you also can't find anything but stoning of homosexuality and stoning of homosexuals in the Bible, too.

Speaker 55 Old-timey, sure.

Speaker 23 Bad, yes.

Speaker 40 But it's not an endorsement.

Speaker 15 Nowhere in the Bible is there an endorsement of that.

Speaker 5 I mean, at best, you can say, well, Jesus never talked about it.

Speaker 47 Well, Jesus never talked about tweeting either.

Speaker 43 I mean,

Speaker 8 I just, it's a weird pitch from him.

Speaker 64 Why?

Speaker 19 I think he thinks that he's showing a friendliness to faith, his version of it. And because so many on stage show a seeming almost aggression against faith,

Speaker 19 this will make him appeal to people in the middle. who are like maybe conservative Democrats or maybe even liberal Republicans who might be faith-based and see, well,

Speaker 19 everyone else seems to almost like despise faith. At least he's mentioning it.
But I think it's almost the opposite because he seems like he's preaching to everybody else.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 15 Exactly right.

Speaker 41 You can't pick and choose if you're going to use the Bible.

Speaker 29 You're going to say, well, I'm a Bible-believing person.

Speaker 63 It's like Donald Trump. It drove me nuts when he was like, yeah, you know, I love the two Corinthians.

Speaker 83 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

Speaker 58 Stop talking about it.

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 37 But if you just want to say, look, I mean, you know, I try to live my life based on, you know, basic principles.

Speaker 8 Many of them were found in the Bible.

Speaker 36 And

Speaker 61 I don't know how to square his behavior.

Speaker 44 That's totally fine.

Speaker 16 But he gets into, we're in Bible country now.

Speaker 84 We're in Bible territory.

Speaker 75 You shouldn't go there.

Speaker 71 You shouldn't go there.

Speaker 54 Yeah. And it just, and look, talk about principles of being a good person.

Speaker 10 Good.

Speaker 23 You're good. It's just hard to take preaching

Speaker 19 about faith and religion from a person who's also also talking about nine-month abortions. Yes.
Like, this is a difficult cell.

Speaker 15 I'm going to kill a baby after they're born.

Speaker 49 No, no, I don't think you find that in the Bible.

Speaker 15 You know, very little material on that.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 40 You just, and see, it's not even the whites that are at issue here on this.

Speaker 41 It would be the Bible-believing blacks in the black churches of South Carolina.

Speaker 57 They don't, one of the big things there is anti-homosexual.

Speaker 42 I mean, I know they're different

Speaker 19 polls that show, was it 41% of African-American voters would not be comfortable with a gay president?

Speaker 71 Exactly right.

Speaker 36 I mean, and those are Democratic voters.

Speaker 5 You've got to

Speaker 2 tone down the

Speaker 6 radical anti-homosexual attitude there in some of your voters.

Speaker 6 They're clearly bigoted against homosexuals.

Speaker 37 Nobody will say that.

Speaker 28 But that's what that group tends to believe.

Speaker 24 You're not going to win, Pete, by preaching Bible to them.

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Speaker 28 Pat, I don't know. It's like

Speaker 62 there's a spirit in your walk.

Speaker 63 You're just, you seem to

Speaker 15 sprint in here today.

Speaker 85 I just watched the greatest debate in human history.

Speaker 79 Really? Yeah. Really?

Speaker 27 I love it. I love that last night.

Speaker 85 I mean, it's so painful to watch these debates, but when they went after each other. With a lot of the things that we'd say about them,

Speaker 44 isn't that amazing?

Speaker 60 You can't beat that.

Speaker 39 Do you remember the t-shirt we made at Fox that said, what if Glenn Beck is right?

Speaker 32 I think

Speaker 62 we need a new t-shirt that just says, Glenn Beck was right.

Speaker 14 Yes.

Speaker 41 Because they're now finally saying that.

Speaker 85 The mask has come off.

Speaker 29 Oh, completely.

Speaker 18 They're now, I mean, you had a Democrat, if you can call him that, call the, quote, socialist what he really is, a communist on stage from the Democratic Party.

Speaker 85 And how much did he hate being called out for his three homes?

Speaker 86 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 86 So good.

Speaker 70 The wonderful Marxist in the room has a summer home.

Speaker 65 Pardon me for having a summer home.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 we can't.

Speaker 58 Not with your rhetoric.

Speaker 79 We can't.

Speaker 79 A lot of people.

Speaker 62 A lot of people, a lot of people in

Speaker 24 Maine or New Hampshire, wherever Vermont.

Speaker 25 Like a lot of people.

Speaker 8 Thousands have like a lot of people. Listen to it.

Speaker 84 Here's the actual quote.

Speaker 87 What a wonderful country we have.

Speaker 88 The best-known socialist in the country happens to be a millionaire with three houses.

Speaker 81 What I miss here.

Speaker 87 Well, you'll miss that I work in Washington, house watch. That's the first problem.

Speaker 81 Live in Burlington, house to. That's good.

Speaker 87 And like thousands of other Vermonters, I do have a summer camp.

Speaker 81 Forgive me for that.

Speaker 88 Where is your home?

Speaker 87 Which tax haven? New York?

Speaker 87 New York City, thank you very much.

Speaker 81 And I pay all my taxes.

Speaker 29 Wait, he has a summer camp?

Speaker 34 Yeah,

Speaker 27 this is a summer home.

Speaker 79 It's a summer camp.

Speaker 34 Is that where he sends capitalists to be re-educated?

Speaker 50 Well, a summer camp sounds more gritty.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it sounds like it's a little cabin, a little tiny cabin.

Speaker 85 It sounds like it's a KOA campground.

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 14 I didn't pull my RV out.

Speaker 86 Of course, we've seen the home, and it's a nice home.

Speaker 86 It's not a camp at all.

Speaker 3 It's a home.

Speaker 30 It's a new Kent part of that house.

Speaker 19 I mean, because people, I think rightly so, said Bloomberg did pretty poor in this debate, but I mean, he had some good moments.

Speaker 27 That's a good moment.

Speaker 79 He did great.

Speaker 44 He did great

Speaker 60 if it was a presidential

Speaker 15 general election.

Speaker 49 He's going after

Speaker 51 all the socialist Marxists in the Democratic Party.

Speaker 33 They're the only ones going out for these things.

Speaker 19 He seems to be the only one not embarrassed by capitalism.

Speaker 86 And look, there are a lot of Democratic voters who are not Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 19 You know, those people are going to, I think, look at some, the voters, not the candidates, the voters are going to look at that and say, well, at least somebody's saying, you know, like maybe we should be able to keep our own health care.

Speaker 29 Do you remember when they asked, anybody here, you know,

Speaker 23 like socialism or, you know, want to want to stick up for capitalism?

Speaker 86 Nobody. It was only Klobuchar, right?

Speaker 14 Klobuchar was one.

Speaker 30 A raiser hand for capitalism.

Speaker 12 One.

Speaker 6 Boy, there seemed to be a lot of, a lot of

Speaker 52 talk about socialism and capitalism.

Speaker 50 The audience last night,

Speaker 14 they weren't capitalists.

Speaker 71 No, do they stack stack that?

Speaker 31 No, these are just the.

Speaker 85 That's just amazing.

Speaker 71 Isn't it? It's amazing that so many.

Speaker 44 I mean, this is just the audience.

Speaker 85 So you would think rank and file Democrats, right, piling in to see this.

Speaker 58 And none of them applaud capitalism.

Speaker 70 None of them like capitalism. So

Speaker 39 let's play those.

Speaker 32 Could we play the

Speaker 80 cut 10, the weak applause for capitalism?

Speaker 89 I believe in capitalism, but but I think the goal of someone in government,

Speaker 10 president of the United States, should be a check.

Speaker 52 One of them was Bloomberg, I think.

Speaker 79 I think so.

Speaker 14 Who is like,

Speaker 51 I believe in capitalism.

Speaker 51 Wow.

Speaker 17 Amy, it is a good thing you brought your husband and Bloomberg was there.

Speaker 5 Now, listen to this.

Speaker 62 Bloomberg says throwing out capitalism would get Trump re-elected because communism doesn't work.

Speaker 14 Listen to this.

Speaker 20 Booze for capitalism.

Speaker 35 I can't think of ways that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get it re-elected than listening to this conversation.

Speaker 35 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 89 We're not going to throw out capitalism.

Speaker 35 We tried that. Other countries tried that.
It was called communism, and it just didn't work.

Speaker 27 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 14 You're stepping on my toes now.

Speaker 51 It worked great. You should have seen the chandeliers and the subways there in Russia.

Speaker 3 Beautiful.

Speaker 27 Beautiful.

Speaker 19 Again, I thought that was another pretty good moment for me.

Speaker 3 I thought so, too, right?

Speaker 15 Not in the primary.

Speaker 19 I don't know. I think, I mean, again, he's not trying to get Bernie voters, right? He's trying to get Biden voters.

Speaker 19 He's trying to get people who are like Klobuchar or Booge Edge, whatever this moderate lane supposedly is.

Speaker 19 And I think there's a good chunk of Democratic voters who want the big programs, who want gay marriage and all those sorts of things, but don't want capitalism destroyed.

Speaker 19 There is a contingency of Democratic voters who do that.

Speaker 85 None of them were there last night, but there is no pay.

Speaker 79 They were not there.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 19 They did not show up for the next day.

Speaker 85 I mean, you still hope that people in Middle America, right, Democrats in Nebraska, still believe in the capitalist system.

Speaker 29 You would hope.

Speaker 3 Yeah, remember, I'm not sure it's true, though. I'm not.

Speaker 8 I don't see a lot of evidence of it.

Speaker 19 They did that whole test of what would you feel comfortable voting for. And, you know, there was gay president, Muslim president.
The least popular one on the entire thing was socialist.

Speaker 64 Socialist.

Speaker 19 I mean, again, I think it's still a very negative

Speaker 12 Democrats.

Speaker 64 No, no, no.

Speaker 65 74% were okay with it.

Speaker 71 Right? Is that not...

Speaker 41 No, not this poll Luis.

Speaker 85 It was 47% overall, but I believe 74% of Democrats would vote for a socialist.

Speaker 19 Let's just take that on its face, right? So 26% are not comfortable voting for them at all.

Speaker 86 That's enough to lead the pack. In the field right now, if you get those people.

Speaker 19 Now, look, you still have to get some of the other people, too, to win the nomination at the end of the day. But with a divided field like that, he's the only one who seems brave enough to step out.

Speaker 19 And Klobuchart to some degree did this, but brave enough to stand up and just say, look, yeah, capitalism.

Speaker 65 It's hard to hide when he gets $64 billion.

Speaker 19 He has to.

Speaker 80 It's difficult to hide, yeah.

Speaker 85 But even he has to apologize for his wealth by saying he's giving it all away.

Speaker 37 You're not giving it all away. What are you talking about?

Speaker 19 He signed the giving pledge, didn't he?

Speaker 20 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 Which is, you know, Steve Gates did this. And I mean, he's giving it.
One thing he's bad at is giving it away, apparently.

Speaker 19 And by the way, he's.

Speaker 17 He gives it away every time he buys a new house.

Speaker 25 No, he is.

Speaker 19 I mean, look, he's given a fortune to largely hardcore left-wing causes, including anti-gun causes

Speaker 19 that are far to the left of even where Bernie Sanders is. So this guy's no conservative.
He's no moderate.

Speaker 19 He just has the ability to actually say, hey, the entire economic system of this country shouldn't be torn down tomorrow.

Speaker 48 This is what's crazy. This is what's crazy.

Speaker 77 He,

Speaker 66 the Overton window, is in the Soviet Union

Speaker 76 to where Bloomberg looks like he's a moderate.

Speaker 58 Crazy.

Speaker 18 The guy is a totalitarian autocrat.

Speaker 75 That's what he is.

Speaker 85 He's an absolute extremist on the Second Amendment.

Speaker 85 And on climate change.

Speaker 42 Climate change.

Speaker 26 And have you noticed, has anybody noticed how everyone is now starting to talk about everything in the Constitution?

Speaker 23 Like, you know, we should re-examine that.

Speaker 73 I mean, you know, maybe we should have term limits on

Speaker 32 the Supreme Court, you know, and we should get rid of the Electoral College.

Speaker 33 And the Second Amendment doesn't work.

Speaker 44 And maybe we should look at the First Amendment.

Speaker 49 This is the longest-running Constitution in the history of all mankind.

Speaker 72 And it is producing

Speaker 61 the greatest period of freedom and wealth and health the world has ever seen.

Speaker 49 And suddenly, everybody's talking about, man, maybe we should crack that thing open.

Speaker 34 No!

Speaker 56 No! What do you say?

Speaker 73 We return to the Constitution.

Speaker 26 What do you say? We start using it from time to time.

Speaker 42 You know,

Speaker 28 we used to make fun of, and I apologize, we used to make fun of those people that carried the Pocket Constitution around with them.

Speaker 14 We're like, oh, he's got the pocket constitution.

Speaker 15 Why don't I read the Constitution?

Speaker 8 Yeah, okay, buddy.

Speaker 58 Thank you for carrying the Pocket Constitution around. Thank you.

Speaker 71 Thank you.

Speaker 62 They were right.

Speaker 32 They were right.

Speaker 65 We got so lost, and now we're to the point.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 20 Sorry, I've just got so much processing in my head right now, and I'm so

Speaker 15 on the edge.

Speaker 38 Today is the day. Do I look bloated?

Speaker 20 Do I look bloated? I don't know.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but that's been every day.

Speaker 20 I just thought that was

Speaker 20 normal.

Speaker 29 It's been typical of the normal days.

Speaker 3 No, no, I think I'm cycling.

Speaker 14 I think I'm cycling.

Speaker 14 Here's the thing.

Speaker 58 Here's the

Speaker 62 How do you get people to buy into

Speaker 63 Nazism,

Speaker 42 communism?

Speaker 75 How do you do it?

Speaker 28 Hitler said you got to create the biggest lies.

Speaker 71 The bigger the lie, the more easy it is.

Speaker 43 And it's the small ones that are hard.

Speaker 58 That never made sense to me.

Speaker 27 Well, let's see.

Speaker 40 How many Americans right now,

Speaker 61 especially the youth, where it always comes from, especially the youth, will say, yes, a man can have a baby.

Speaker 33 Yes, a man can have his period.

Speaker 56 No, he can't.

Speaker 72 If you're bleeding downstairs, go see a doctor.

Speaker 70 Okay?

Speaker 53 If you're a dude and every month you got blood shooting out of you, see a freaking doctor.

Speaker 49 Something's wrong.

Speaker 61 But how many people are willing to say that?

Speaker 55 If they can get you to say something that you know absolutely, positively cannot ever happen,

Speaker 51 that a man cannot have a baby.

Speaker 16 You could put a baby in a man, but he ain't pushing it through his pee-pee.

Speaker 53 I don't know how you keep it alive.

Speaker 27 Thank you for using the technical term. Thank you.

Speaker 79 Thank you.

Speaker 28 I appreciate that.

Speaker 54 No man is menstruating today.

Speaker 74 And if you think so, you need to see a doctor as well.

Speaker 31 But how many of us have already accepted that lie?

Speaker 44 If they can get you to say that

Speaker 13 or to be afraid to say,

Speaker 55 excuse me, dummy, no,

Speaker 61 if you are afraid to say that,

Speaker 53 They just got you to deny something you know absolutely positively, scientifically, no questions asked. You are now either staying silent or you are agreeing with it.

Speaker 28 And that's without putting the rat cage on your head.

Speaker 43 Exactly right.

Speaker 83 Like in 1984.

Speaker 65 What do you think they can do?

Speaker 70 So easy.

Speaker 8 What lies will you tell in your life if you're willing to go there first?

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Speaker 28 Let me go right to Dr.

Speaker 8 Wilford Riley, professor at Kentucky State University, author of the book Taboo, and a guy who started the 1776 project that he's going to talk to us about today.

Speaker 25 Doctor,

Speaker 27 welcome to the program.

Speaker 78 Thanks for having me on. Sure.

Speaker 37 Now, normally, you would give me the professional courtesy of calling me doctor as well, seeing that I worked hard, just as hard as you, for my doctorate.

Speaker 79 But I.

Speaker 78 Are you also a doctor?

Speaker 15 I am a doctor.

Speaker 20 I'm a doctor of humanities, which means I can operate on people's feet, I think.

Speaker 75 Minds. Oral surgery.

Speaker 34 Pardon me?

Speaker 78 I said on their minds, maybe.

Speaker 39 Well, I mean, I don't think we have to have this professional squabble about it now.

Speaker 8 Doctor,

Speaker 67 I want to thank you for coming on the show.

Speaker 28 Thank you for what you're doing.

Speaker 42 And

Speaker 9 tell me why you got involved in trying to set the record straight from the 1619 project.

Speaker 22 Sure.

Speaker 78 I will say I'm one of the founders of the 1776 project, but there are a large number of pretty elite people involved.

Speaker 78 Bob Woodson, really at the Woodson Center, is the guy that brought our group together.

Speaker 78 I mean, you've got Glenn Lowry, legendary economist, Talib Starks, the organizer, Carol Swain, John Sibley Butler, pretty impressive lineup up. Coleman Hughes, the editor at Quillette.

Speaker 78 But the idea of the 1776 project, I mean, it is a nonpartisan, I'd say for most of us, center-right at least.

Speaker 78 black-led response to the New York Times 1619 project. And the 1619 project,

Speaker 78 your intro on this was pretty much did on point. This is an idea.

Speaker 78 This is a series of editorials that became a business initiative that the USA began in slavery and that really the thing that defines the country the most or the thing that makes the country unique is the fact that we had historical slavery here.

Speaker 78 And 1776 is a response to that. I mean, we point out, and an initiative on its own.
So we point out a number of things. First of all, almost all societies had slavery until the 18th century.

Speaker 78 If everyone was guilty of evil and the USA today is unique, it was not the evil that made us unique.

Speaker 78 So we point out some of the flaws in the 1619 narrative, and there are many, like the claim that the Revolutionary War was fought so that America could keep slaves. That's absolute nonsense.

Speaker 18 That's crazy.

Speaker 78 Yeah, that's one of the Gordon Wood, who's the country's probably leading Revolutionary War historian, has really taken that apart, where he points out that that ignores everything that actually led to the war.

Speaker 78 Taxation without representation, French and Indian war debt, I mean, armed battles in the streets, the Boston Massacre, that's all pushed aside.

Speaker 84 Right.

Speaker 43 And it also dismisses the first original draft of the Declaration of Independence in Jefferson's own handwriting, where one of the last usurpation is a paragraph that is passionate against slavery.

Speaker 83 Where's that?

Speaker 78 Yeah, I mean, I think so a one-sided narrative is a bad narrative.

Speaker 78 I mean, an obvious point is that for literally as long as we had slavery in the USA, there was a powerful anti-slavery movement led by white and black people of goodwill, from Frederick Douglass to John Brown, that won.

Speaker 78 We don't have slaves in the USA. We haven't had slaves since 1865.
I've never had a slave or been one, and neither has anyone else who's currently alive who was born in this country.

Speaker 78 So these are the sort of things that we point out.

Speaker 78 And in contrast to the narrative of 1619, which is that racism still defines, the racism of 300 years ago still defines exactly what America is today.

Speaker 78 We have a pretty simple thesis, which is that the United States of America is a flawed but very good society.

Speaker 78 It's simply not that difficult to make it here, and almost anyone can given hard work and personal responsibility.

Speaker 78 People regularly come to the USA from countries where cars are a bit of a luxury item like Ethiopia and Vietnam and go on to outperform both black and white native-born Americans.

Speaker 78 So there's absolutely no reason we should expect less of middle-class black people or Appalachian white ones for that matter than we do of recent immigrants from Botswana or the Philippines.

Speaker 78 That's crazy and that is a form of racism.

Speaker 75 So this

Speaker 77 is go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 78 No, no, we're responding. 1619, although it presents as purely academic, is to some extent a business initiative.
I mean, they have a curriculum designed with the Pulitzer Center and so on.

Speaker 78 So many of us, including me, have fairly elite business backgrounds. We're responding across a range of avenues.
I mean, curricula, media like this, so on down the line.

Speaker 78 I mean, the narrative can't go unchallenged that the USA is not the world's best country, but rather its most evil. That just doesn't make any sense at Perique.

Speaker 15 Well, they are already, it's already creeping into our schools,

Speaker 40 and they're taking this at face value.

Speaker 46 I heard an ad for the podcast from the New York Times, and they said, you know, and there are some disagreements, but that's what we do best,

Speaker 30 is try to get people to talk and find the truth.

Speaker 49 No, you have taken a theory that is flawed from the beginning and you've merchandised it, marketed it, and now it's being taught in some schools around the country.

Speaker 51 It is, it is, it's really dangerous to teach this kind of nonsense.

Speaker 67 And I can't thank you enough for

Speaker 8 actually following through and not just talking about it, but getting the curricula changed in schools to make sure we're teaching the truth.

Speaker 78 Yeah, and in the book you mentioned, A Taboo, the 10 Facts You Can't Talk About, recently came out with Regnery.

Speaker 78 This is something that I talk about, and it's kind of the invasion at a level below what most people recognize of certain ideas into the American mainstream.

Speaker 78 So I frankly don't think most people know what their kids are learning in school.

Speaker 43 They don't.

Speaker 78 Yeah, this is very important. I would actually, a statement for the parents out there, look at it.

Speaker 78 There are specific things like what sex education is being taught, what American history is being taught, that any thinking father or mother should ask their child's school district about.

Speaker 78 I'm in, yeah, I recently observed this with some of my own younger relatives, and it's pretty striking. At any rate, so the response to 1619, I mean, thank you for the compliment.

Speaker 78 One thing I would emphasize is that nobody, obviously not you, obviously not me, is arguing that slavery was good.

Speaker 78 What we're saying, yeah, it's not, it's ridiculous that even need to be said, but what we're saying is a series of empirical points. One, American slavery was not historically unique.

Speaker 78 Every other country, including the many civilized black nations of Africa, had a form of slavery that was as bad or worse until quite recently.

Speaker 78 Two, we don't think that slavery was the defining feature of the USA. We don't think it's what made America unique.

Speaker 78 With no disrespect for that southern culture, the South was a bit of a backwater before the Civil War, and that's why they lost.

Speaker 78 And a big reason for that was the reliance on this sort of feudal surf agriculture.

Speaker 78 And third, finally, we do not believe, we do not believe that after 155 years of abolition, and by the way, 53 years of affirmative action, Asians or middle-class blacks or Jewish Americans, Cubans, members of any other minority are still oppressed.

Speaker 78 That's a meaningless term.

Speaker 78 So it's important that this be responded to with a real curriculum that says, yes, the USA is not perfect because only God is perfect, but these are the advantages that we have over other societies.

Speaker 78 And to some extent, these are the advantages where they exist that they have over us. And this is why we exist as the country we are today.

Speaker 78 And that doesn't trace back to racial quarrels 300 years ago most of the time.

Speaker 13 Do you address the

Speaker 31 fact that

Speaker 8 more slaves went to Brazil

Speaker 20 or that

Speaker 13 Mexico is given the status of beating the United States to abolishing slavery, but they said we'll stop it in a hundred years?

Speaker 40 I mean, that's not the abolishment of slavery.

Speaker 17 You know, we had to do it through civil war, but, you know, they could declare anything they want, but that wasn't the abolishment of slavery.

Speaker 78 Yeah, we discuss all this. I mean, one point I want to make, and I don't mean to be glib here, but history sucked for almost everyone.

Speaker 78 If you're talking about Irishmen, Japanese, Americans, women couldn't vote until 1920. So, yes, absolutely, slavery existed in almost all societies.

Speaker 78 I'm not attempting to apologize for the white slave trade of blacks, but no, no, no. But it's worth noting that there was also a black slave trade of whites, or at least a Moorish one.

Speaker 78 I mean, the Barbary slave trade and inspired the verse, Shores of Triple E in the Marine Corps hymn.

Speaker 78 This went on from 1600 to 1800.

Speaker 78 The powerful Muslim nations of North Africa, when they fought the white states of southern Europe, would take everyone they captured, quote-unquote, surgically modify them and make them into slaves and serfs.

Speaker 78 Serfdom itself, that idea that you're a peasant just pushing a sulky plow for most of your life, that existed in Russia and most of Europe, southern France, until 1866.

Speaker 78 So if you're going to say that people were unfree in America, you have to say also in context that people were unfree almost everywhere in the world.

Speaker 78 The West did not begin the institution of slavery, but I will say that though it took too long and it took hard fights, it is modern Western culture that eliminated slavery globally.

Speaker 78 No other culture, including the proud black and Moorish states many of my ancestors came from, even thought about doing this until the modern abolitionist movement began in England and the USA.

Speaker 78 So we have our sins, but we also have our virtues. And it's silly to focus only on our sins, especially given that we live here.
We're insulting our own society when we do so.

Speaker 84 So

Speaker 67 here's the thing that I think most Americans just want.

Speaker 38 I don't care if we hear about the bad things.

Speaker 46 I think we need to know about all of the bad things that America did, or we won't learn and change.

Speaker 40 So we have to learn about those things.

Speaker 26 But perspective, man, perspective.

Speaker 59 And look at it in the context of the day.

Speaker 50 Look at what everyone else was doing, and understand that, you know, it's an ebb and flow.

Speaker 33 Sometimes we're better, sometimes we're worse.

Speaker 44 I mean, at the time that we're fighting against communism and Nazism in the 1940s, we're also throwing Japanese Americans into concentration camps.

Speaker 65 I mean,

Speaker 44 it's both.

Speaker 28 It's both.

Speaker 52 Just like humans, we're both good and bad as individuals.

Speaker 63 And it's that constant battle between those two forces inside of us that shows in the end who you are.

Speaker 5 Were you generally moving forward or were you somebody that was fighting for evil the whole time?

Speaker 78 Yeah, I think that's well put. My old martial arts sensei phrases it is every human being has a back and a front.
And I think that's roughly accurate.

Speaker 78 When you're looking at the presentation of a man or of a human being, of course, you want a warts and all portrayal, which is a very famous description of an actual picture.

Speaker 78 But what I think you very often get from the activist left in the USA is an almost all-warts view of the country and a warts-free view of other rival societies.

Speaker 78 It's simply idiotic to spend hours and hours fulminating about the fact that the USA at one point had slavery and then go on to praise, say, China or the civilized nations of Africa or the Arab world.

Speaker 78 Much of the Arab world has slavery today. I know.

Speaker 46 There's more slaves today than there was during the entire Western slave trade combined, all of those years.

Speaker 30 So,

Speaker 43 Doctor, tell me how the average person can access this information or can, you know, play a role at all in helping you with this battle.

Speaker 78 Sure, yeah, and thanks for asking. I mean, we're all fairly easy to find.
I'm Will Fred Riley, W-I-L-F-R-E-D-R-E-I-L-L-Y online, Facebook, Twitter.

Speaker 78 You've mentioned hate crime, hoax, and taboo, the books I've written. I'm one of many people.
Bob Woodson is the original initiator of the project.

Speaker 78 If you Google Woodson Center, they'll be more than glad to accept donations to 1776 or to their overall work.

Speaker 78 And of course, we have a professional website that just went live, although we're still uploading headshots and so on. It's 1776Unites.

Speaker 78 I believe that would be.com because we are equipped to receive donations. But if you Google 1776 Unites, it'll be the first hit.

Speaker 9 Unites with an S, with an S?

Speaker 40 Unites?

Speaker 78 Yes, 1776 Unites. U-N-I-T-E-S.

Speaker 78 That is correct. And yeah, we're more than glad to accept outreach again.
Wilfred Riley, we've got Glenn Lowry on the project, John Sibley Butler, Carol Swain.

Speaker 78 I mean, many of these are names you will have heard. Yeah, yeah.
Coleman Hughes over at Quillette is handling a lot of media and social media.

Speaker 78 So we thought this is a fairly impressive group of people. Some of us had met for lunches before, just as black people in the business community.

Speaker 78 And the idea was, well, we really need to respond to this because this is nonsense and it's going to increase racial tensions in a way that's not good for black people or just as importantly for our white countrymen.

Speaker 78 And I think we responded effectively.

Speaker 9 Thank you so so much, Doctor.

Speaker 14 I appreciate it.

Speaker 13 The 1776 project is 1776unites.com.

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