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Hey, welcome to the program.

Got a great show for you today.

Steve Dace is talking about the Iowa caucus.

Pat Gray joins me.

Tulsi Gabbard.

We have a great interview with Tulsi Gabbard from New Hampshire on what's happening in her party, what's happening with her,

why CNN and the Democrats are blocking her, and yet they're putting in candidates that have much less support.

She has 8% in New Hampshire.

They just put Duval Patrick in, who has 2%

support.

She's asked the DNC and CNN, and no one has an answer for her.

Also, Selena Zito, she is, she's a woman who has the finger on the pulse.

What's going to happen tonight in Iowa?

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Iowa, Iowa, Iowa.

This is Iowa, the true America.

Well, I mean, if there is such a thing, but there isn't.

Or maybe there is.

I mean, there has to be.

There can't be.

There absolutely is.

Friendly people in general in Iowa.

Patient, courteous.

One of our reporters, Kevin Ryan, was out, and at one point he said, he was at one of the train track intersections in the state.

The crossing gate lowered, the bell rung, and the train chugged by.

Several cars waited at the designated line, and a few minutes later, the train just stopped.

But people kept pulling into the line of cars.

Nobody sped off.

Nobody honked their horns.

In Chicago or New York, you'd hear screeching and honking and curse words, peel-outs, maybe even gunshots.

But this is a different state, a charming place.

The way the land breathes under you, spread out like a blanket, and the corn stalks lean with each breeze and the marigold softness on the horizon without the skyscrapers imposing their faces.

Everywhere you look, all you see is America.

The honey scent of fertilizer and livestock.

At night, the whole world gets dark and quiet.

So quiet you can almost, you feel like Adam and Eve, just looking up.

alone in the garden contemplating the electric sky full of planets and stars and other lives they couldn't understand.

Iowa is

187 times bigger than New York City.

Yet there are only 3 million people in Iowa compared to the 9 million people in New York City.

There are actually more feral hogs than humans in Iowa.

That's an actual fact.

Yet,

People stay in Iowa for generations and you can kind of see why.

You have to admire its stable geography.

It's the only state with parallel rivers as borders.

On the easternmost side, along the Mississippi River, there's the world's steepest and shortest railway.

On the other, along the Missouri River, a monument stands.

It's the Sergeant Floyd.

It's the only man to die during the Lewis and Clark Great Expedition.

And every July, for a whole week, cyclists traverse the divide, bumping along those uneven roadways.

By the way, I want to go back.

You did understand there are 21 million feral hogs in Iowa.

I just want to go back to that for a second.

That's roughly the population of Mexico City or San Francisco, Oakland, and Phoenix and Seattle and Detroit combined.

They have more hogs than Mubai has people.

And if the Iowa hogs divided in two factions and occupied different sides of the states, Iowa would have two megacities, classification earned only in America by Los Angeles and New York.

21 million hogs.

They arrived in the 1500s thanks to the ham-obsessed Spaniards led by DeSoto.

And for centuries, Native American tribes alone occupied the land.

The Sac and the Fox, the Iowa, Dakota Sioux, the Oto,

and before that woolly mammoths roamed the plains.

In the 1700s the French showed up with their fur trade and their treaties.

The area belonged to France until 1763 following a defeat by Spain in the French and Indian War.

The region flopped from one nation's hand to the next until the Louisiana Purchase happened

when Thomas Jefferson was, they talked about impeaching him because he had the Louisiana purchase.

He bought the land from Louisiana to Montana, and that would become the Midwestern and southern states, including Iowa.

We paid $18

a square mile.

Shortly after the purchase, the territory's new residents got a little possessive, and soon enough sellers were shoving the Indians off the land that they'd occupied since the Ice Age.

Some next level gentrification, I guess.

But we've always had a bloody streak.

Man always does, not just America.

Especially back then, it was violent and cruel.

There was mayhem.

It was just out in the middle of nowhere on the wobbly plains, gunfights, stabbings, honest to God, cowboy stuff with gunslingers.

Who knows what else happened there?

And then came the Civil War in the 1860s, the worst kind of war, the kind that guts a nation.

Iowa had only been a state for 15 years with a population of about half a million people.

Yet with only 500,000 people, 75,000 Iowan men fought for the Union.

Now that's the highest percentage of soldiers from any other state on both sides.

And they died like hell.

Drowned in the mud, ransacked by cannonballs, bayonet to the gut or the neck or anywhere.

It was the cruel early stage of modern warfare.

But America's always been a rugged and unceasing territory.

We're roughnecks.

We're a chancer.

And most of the times it pays off.

We fought the Civil War and we stayed together.

But then came the railroads sprouting up all across the country.

It was the late 1800s.

Trains could haul produce from any part of the country to another part of the country, so the farming jobs flourished in Iowa and the population grew.

In 1901, Quaker Oats was founded in Cedar Rapids.

Then in 1937, Iowa State University professor John Vincent Aniscoff and graduate student Clifford Berry created the first automatic electronic digital computer.

Wait a minute, in Iowa?

The same state that gave us oatmeal also shoved us towards the creation indirectly to Grand Theft Auto 5 and iPhones and all of the luxuries that are now our reality.

Iowa had a thriving agriculture until World War I, then the Great Depression, then World War II,

and everywhere, all around the world, people wanted to live in the larger cities.

That's where things were getting done, and Iowa had very few.

But they coped how they could, replacing the agricultural with the industrial.

And during the war, Iowa built tanks, rifles, airplanes, armies, armor.

You should know, by the way, 8,389 Iowans died by the end of the war on September 2nd, 1945.

Imagine surviving the war and returning to the endless fields and

the oceans of sky.

As the haze of wartime and the economy cleared,

Iowans enjoyed, like the rest of America, a sense of renewal.

They had benefited from the change of industry.

Agriculture had always been the money maker, but now Iowa was building refrigerators, farming equipment, stationery.

To this day, Iowa still is the largest producer of eggs, pork, and corn.

In 1958, Winnebago, the RV manufacturer, was founded in Winnebago County, Iowa.

And since that day, your home can be wherever it is that you want it to be on this continent.

A year after Winnebago was founded, a plane crash outside of Clear Lake, Iowa

killed the music.

The day the music died.

It was in Des Moines on January 20th, 1982 when a 17-year-old boy grabbed a dead bat, fangs, snout, and all, and threw it at Black Sabbath.

Even the performer Ozzy Osborne,

he grabbed the tiny little bat corpse and shoved it in his mouth and started gnashing.

He thought it was a rubber bat until that bat kind of exploded in his mouth and he found out that it was really a rat.

But he had started and he couldn't break the persona, so he just went on right after the show.

He was rushed to Broadlawn's Medical Center for rabies.

Ozzy Osborne's bat decaptation stands as one of the most notorious moments in rock and roll history and it was in Des Moines, Iowa.

Then there's Brid, Iowa, home to the National Hobo Convention, as well as the Hobo Museum.

Call the town quirky or gross for hosting such a thing,

or you can see the humanity in it.

You can see the neighbors,

the neighborliness.

My grandparents were from Iowa.

They say the name Iowa is a reference to when Indians discovered the land.

It was the first words they uttered.

When they looked at the beautiful sprawling land in the hills, they simply said, Iowa, Iowa, Iowa.

It translates to beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

Maybe not so much today as we go now to the polls.

Iowa is a place that is sharply divided just within the Democratic Party, and it is besieged with reporters and politicians and a circus every four years.

We get to that here in just a second.

Wow, I am still reeling, Pat.

I don't know about you, but I'm still reeling from that Bill Crystal announcement that he's a Democrat now.

Wow.

I mean, that's been coming on for how long?

When was he born?

Yeah, 60 years.

I mean, that is the least surprising story I have ever seen.

Yeah.

Anyway, Iowa today.

Any thoughts on Iowa?

We have Steve Dace coming up in just a little while.

We also have Tulsi Gabbard joining us today in hour number two.

I'm anxious to talk to Tulsi

and

hear her thoughts of what's happening in the Democratic Party.

They seem to be control freaks.

No.

They seem not to want Bernie again.

They didn't want him last time, and they don't want him this time.

So

have you heard about the

poll,

the Des Moines Register poll that comes out?

With Buddha Judge?

No, no, no.

Yeah.

The one that comes out every year,

day before, the Sunday before,

and

has the final poll.

And

it was pulled back

because they say there are errors, but there's all kinds of conspiracies floating.

Yeah,

there was a conversation with one of the people that they polled, and I think they got his name wrong.

They said his name wrong,

or the person being polled said the name wrong.

But he voted for Buddha Judge anyway.

But there were questions about that, and so they just threw out the the poll.

Even though the guy voted for Buddha Judge in the fight

in the poll.

Right.

So

here's what it was.

Somebody who was just answering the phone raised the issue with the way the survey was being administered, which could have compromised the results of the poll.

It appears a candidate's name, Buddha Judge, was admitted in at least one interview in which the respondent was asked to name their preferred candidate.

And he said, what about Buddha Judge?

And the guy was like, oh, sorry, Buddha Judge.

And so because of that, because of that, they're throwing the poll away.

Now,

is that what happened?

Is that what happened?

Because I suppose if you saw the poll, you could see that Buddha Judge was either way, way underperforming.

from all other polls.

And then you could say, okay, well, there's a problem.

But they didn't say there was a problem.

What they said was this one incident, and they made sure that they didn't publish the poll.

Now, there are some that are saying that this poll wasn't published because it was bad for Biden.

Others are saying it's really good for Sanders,

and that's why they didn't publish it.

Because the Democrats don't want Sanders, and if it's bad for Biden, they don't want to lead into that

this is and for the des Moines register to play along with them like that it's the first time unbelievable this is the first time in the history of the Des Moines register they have not published this poll that's really bad that is really bad you don't throw the poll out just because of one response unless one response unless you come out and say we found out that this person did not ask

Buddha Judge in in others or he was not confident.

Then you come out and you say that.

What they're coming out and saying is, well, because of this one guy, we're not sure, and yada, yada.

Well, how confident are you?

Did you ask the guy?

I mean,

it's remarkable to me because you're playing with fire when it comes to Bernie Sanders.

Oh,

they've made that clear.

Oh, have they not?

Right.

I mean, when you threaten to burn Milwaukee to the ground,

yeah, that's he's got a volatile base.

Can we play the Bill Maher audio from the Bill Maher show this weekend?

Listen to this.

But I tell you why Bernie Sanders is attractive to me now because he's the only Democrat who, like Trump, has an army.

Who, when it gets to this other level, he's got a bunch of badass motherfuckers who will get in the streets.

Okay, so Trump doesn't have that.

Okay, Trump doesn't have that.

We've not gotten into the streets.

We have have nobody's claimed they're gonna burn anything to the ground nope nope there's been no violent rhetoric from trump supporters no in fact the violent rhetoric is all from the other side against trump i mean look at what the state of virginia did just to people who liked the second amendment yeah okay they immediately called all of those people names and and bad names they were white supremacists they were nazis you know they mobilized against them.

So, I mean, you're dealing with fire.

I have more on this with Bernie Sanders coming up, but this is something that we talked about literally 20 years ago, 20,

no, it was about 15 years ago, 14 years ago, we talked about it.

And I spelled it out.

Democrats, here's what you're doing.

Here's what's going to happen.

Here's how it's going to end.

And we're now there.

And the Democrats are freaking out.

Freaking out.

They should be.

Yeah, they should be.

Because today in Iowa, I think everybody's been trying to calculate who could beat Trump, who could beat Trump.

They don't see anybody.

So there's either going to be a low turnout or I think people are going to go in and go, you know what?

It doesn't matter.

I'm just going to vote for who I want.

I'm going to vote for the person because I can't do the calculus.

I don't know who could beat Donald Trump.

And

that could change things dramatically tonight.

Remember, this is not a poll like you normally do.

This is a caucus, very different.

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Okay, last night was the Super Bowl.

I'm not a Super Bowl fan.

Usually they're boring as snot because it's usually a runaway.

This was thrilling to the end.

Stu said it right last week when he said,

you know, this is going to be a good Super Bowl because they're evenly matched.

Big time.

Yeah.

And

it was just...

Thrilling the whole time.

It was really good.

Yeah.

Going into the fourth quarter when it's 20 to 10 and then Kansas City rattles off 21 straight points to win it like that.

It was crazy.

And they did that the whole postseason.

It was just amazing.

Yeah, it was really, it was really, really great.

And

there's no team that I would rather see lose than those people who are stationed in San Francisco.

And I want you to, stationed is the right word.

And I want you to know I was very proud of the San Francisco players.

None of them took a crap on the field.

No, that was good.

That went against their nature.

We know that.

It did.

Yeah, it did.

It did.

But somebody did take a big crap on the field, and it was the halftime show sponsored by Pepsi.

Now, I think just by reading the reviews, and if I may quote Jeb Bush,

the 2020 Super Bowl halftime show is the best Super Bowl halftime show ever.

Oh, please.

Come on.

Excuse me?

Come on.

Really?

If Mount Everest was made entirely of jello and it collapsed in some gigantic avalanche,

a jello avalanche?

Yes, a big jello avalanche.

Yes.

Mount Everest size.

Right.

There'd be less jiggling parts than were contained in that Super Bowl halftime.

And there is less jello in that mountain than in Jeb Bush's spine.

That is true.

Yeah.

He is.

I mean,

come on, man.

That was just

pandering.

He's pandering because of the Puerto Rican thing.

I think that's all he's doing is pandering.

Yeah.

That was something you couldn't let your kids watch if you had small kids.

Gosh, well, no, no.

Come on.

Come on.

The crotch cam.

And the pole dancing?

I mean, those are very appropriate.

I like to.

I mean, you can't watch it with your kids.

J-Lo brought

12-year-old daughter out to watch her pole dance.

That's

what's better than seeing mommy pole dance.

And some of the crotch shots, like you said, and the hand placement during those shots.

Yeah, well, where's Michael Jackson?

But now the hand placement.

But the crotch camera, I've never seen a crotch camera before.

No, I have.

Never.

No.

No.

I know.

It was so

uncomfortable.

Inappropriate?

Inappropriate.

That

my son had four friends over.

Now, these are teenage boys.

So I'm sure the teenage boys would have loved that if it wasn't also a room full of parents.

And the teenage boys were so uncomfortable.

My bad.

They were like, Dad, can we change this?

And I'm like, yes, I'm trying to find the remote.

Dad, can we please change this?

Mr.

Beck, can we change this, please?

Yes, I'm trying.

I had 15-year-old boys.

That's how inappropriate it was.

The 15-year-old 15-year-old boys watching it on their own.

They would have loved it.

Watching it with me in the room and my wife and other parents, they

not so much.

They were like, oh, good heavens.

And mainly because all of the adults were like, what the?

I asked.

Tanya halfway through if I could get a lap dance from her.

I said,

I've got a dollar bill.

Well, you've got to pull room, don't you?

Oh, of course we do.

Of course, she dances from from time to time.

And I said, Look, you don't have to.

I mean, J-Lo's there.

I feel like I'm in a strip club.

How about a lap dance?

I'll give you a buck.

And she said,

How dare you offer me a dollar for that?

Yeah.

If you hand me a bill, it better have a one on it and zeros after it.

So she was really offended because I offered her a dollar, not really for the lap dance con.

No, I'm kidding.

It was

really uncomfortable.

Anyway, it just shows how much we've changed.

Yeah.

I mean, remember the wardrobe malfunction?

Tame in comparison to what we saw last year.

Absolutely tame.

Yeah.

Absolutely tame.

And that was what, 2005, 2006?

Yeah.

And it was a big deal, and the NFL had to apologize.

There's not going to be an apology.

Oh, not at all.

They're proud of it.

Oh, yeah.

They love it.

They love it.

And you know what this is?

I think this is the internet.

I think this is the influence of the internet.

We are all watching stuff now

online, or our kids are exposed to things online.

And, you know, it's just everywhere.

And it's just lowered the standards.

It's just all been normalized, and it doesn't shock us anymore.

No.

You know, I was thinking about this last night.

We've gone from a place where when Elvis first came on TV, you couldn't show him from the waist down.

It would only show his upper torso.

Right.

That's how

prudish we were.

Honestly.

And look at what happens now.

I really thought the next step, and I'm not joking.

The next step is let's just give them a gynecological exam.

Okay?

That's just, hey, we've got, you know, we've got J-Lo out, and she's going to sing a song while we perform a gynecological exam.

Because, I mean, it was, there's nothing else left.

There's nothing else left.

And it's just...

And did you notice this?

The women are all wearing nothing.

And then every time the guys were out, they looked like dump.

They looked like, hey, I just put my sweatpants on.

I got my hat on.

And I'm sorry.

I just rolled out of bed.

What's going on?

I mean, the guys all looked like absolute dump.

Yeah.

Women were gypped.

Women were gypped.

In addition, I don't know who any of the guys were.

Are they famous people?

I don't know.

They were who go with the song?

Okay, so as a rule, So my son invited two friends that had just moved to Texas from California.

And yes, I let them in the house, but they're from San Diego, which I count as only partly Californian.

Okay.

So they're in, and, you know, they're like, yeah, we grew up in San Diego, man.

So, like, we're Californians.

So I'm asking them all the way through the Super Bowl.

Did you guys understand that ad?

They're like, no, I don't even know what that ad was about.

What was that?

And did you notice, like, some of the, I think,

I think they were not hip enough to even understand some of the ads.

I don't even know what some of these ads, I knew what they were advertising, but I had no idea following them.

And everybody at the end of the ad was like, what the hell was that?

Am I the only one that?

No, there were some

excuse me, weird ads.

Like weird ads.

That made no sense.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The tide ad I loved.

The one that kept going through.

Yeah,

there were a few.

Like, I thought the Reese's ad was kind of funny, the Take Five thing, where they had all the cliches of were you raised by a wolf?

The guy walks up at the end with his head up his butt.

Hang on, hang on just a sec.

Play this video.

We have it.

What's that?

Reese's take-five bar.

Chocolate, peanuts, caramel, peanut butter, pretzels.

Never heard of it.

Where have you been?

Under a rock?

Do it to me.

What were you born yesterday?

Really, Trish?

Me neither.

Were you raised by wolves?

Really insensitive, Trish.

Are you clueless?

Head in the sand?

That's offensive, Trish.

Yeah, Trish.

You're from another planet?

I never heard of Take Five neither.

Again!

Oh, Trish.

None of us have heard of Take Five.

I look stupid now.

Reese's Take Five.

The best bar you've never heard of.

All right, so

there's a few of them, but I just don't think the Super Bowl ad thing is a thing anymore.

It's really not.

It used to be, but it's all too politically correct.

Everybody's afraid to offend anyone.

Right.

You know, which is why I loved the Donald Trump ad.

Do we have the Donald Trump ad?

Listen to the Donald Trump ad and tell me they didn't intentionally just go for it.

I'll play it here in a second.

Did you see it?

I saw a couple ads.

Oh, my gosh.

The Trump ad, the first one that played, and I think it's the only one.

He wanted to run two.

Only one ran.

And

the Democrats went crazy.

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Thanks.

We have Tulsi Gabbard, who is joining us now.

Hello, Tulsi.

How are you?

Hi, good morning, Glenn.

Good.

How are you?

Very good.

Thanks for coming on.

I'm sure there's a little trepidation in this, a little, perhaps, concern, and you shouldn't.

I respect you.

Everybody on the show here respects you.

We disagree with you, but we really feel you love your country.

You have served the nation,

and

you're a solid citizen.

So

thanks for coming on.

Thank you.

Okay.

I want to ask you, first of all, about the debate

that is happening this Friday.

You are polling at 8%,

and yet you haven't been invited to be on this debate stage, and Duval Patrick is polling at 2% and he was invited.

What's happening?

You know, we've put in calls and sent messages to CNN to ask them exactly that question and have not gotten any kind of response.

And to me, the biggest problem with all of this is CNN is making a choice to dishonor voters, both here in New New Hampshire, who will be voting here in eight days, as well as voters across the country by barring them from being able to be informed about the different leading candidates who are running for president, hearing the voice and the message and the issues that I'm raising in this presidential campaign.

So

their decision to exclude me from this is a disservice to New Hampshire voters, and it's something they're not very happy about.

So

I want to kind of get your opinion on where this is coming from.

Bernie Sanders on Saturday said the target is not just the Republican establishment, but it is the Democratic establishment.

He said that's a real enemy they need to bump off because the party is trying to kill this revolution of his.

Would you agree with that as well with you?

Well, I'll tell you what I'm experiencing here.

You know, I'm in New Hampshire.

We are campaigning hard as we're heading towards Election Day here.

And voters recognize that the political establishment in Washington is not serving the people of this country.

We have a Washington that is of, by, and for the powerful elite rather than of, by and for the people.

So, in the town halls that we're holding every day across New Hampshire and some of the bigger towns and the very small towns, districts that may be red or blue or a mix or whatever it is, what we're seeing is we have Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians all coming together, having a respectful conversation, because

as you opened our conversation today, we respect each other.

We recognize that we are fellow Americans and we care very much for our country's future.

And we see how the powerful elite in Washington are not working for the best interests of the people, and that the only way to change that is when we, the people, stand up, work side by side, and actually focus on putting country first, putting the people of this country first, and actually get real solutions to the problems that we are facing.

And that's exactly what we're doing.

So, Tulsi, there is, I mean, listening to you speak, it sounds to me very familiar.

It sounds like what Pete Tea Party members were saying

back under Obama.

The establishment isn't listening.

They're not responding to what the voters are asking for.

because I wanted hope and change too.

I wanted transparency.

I wanted a change to what was happening.

And nobody was listening at all on either side, and those people were belittled, which made them more angry.

Isn't this the same kind of feeling, just with different

end goals?

One was a return to the Constitution, and in many cases, with Sanders, it's an end to the Constitution or capitalism.

Isn't it the same feeling, though?

The sense of dissatisfaction, disenfranchisement, of being left behind, that our voices are not being heard, I think is something that has continuously been growing over quite some time, which points to the reality that the problems in Washington are not being correctly identified.

We go through these elections and it's like, you know, Democrats good, Republicans bad, Republicans good, Democrats bad.

And it's this hyper-partisanship about one party versus the other and each trying to either maintain or regain their power that leaves the American people and our voices behind.

And this is why I think something that you're identifying maybe happened a while back.

It's only continued to have grown and it is coming from across party lines.

In our town halls, as we're talking about these issues every day, you know, everyone's nodding their heads and recognizing, yes, we need to fix this.

We need to change this.

We've got to stop seeing everything through a partisan lens and actually just focus on the reality that so many American families are struggling and hurting and are

angry.

that their government is not working for them.

So how would you identify yourself as, I mean, you endorsed Bernie Sanders, which made Hillary Clinton love you forever.

Would you consider I have not gotten the love letter yet?

Really?

Oh, I thought, no, I thought she loved you for that.

I move around a lot, so I don't know.

Maybe I got love for you.

Well, she might, when she accepts the lawsuit and signs for the lawsuit you filed against her, maybe she'll give you the love letter in exchange for that.

But are you, would you, how would you classify yourself?

And as Democratic socialist,

is that a danger?

Do you think?

Or is that a good thing?

Is that where the Democratic Party should go?

First and foremost, as an American.

Right, I know.

I love our country, and

I approach issues as I have throughout my time in Congress, as I do now, seeking to serve our country as President Commander-in-Chief, really just focused on the substance of these issues, not

blindly placing myself or my thought process into one box because I'm a Democrat, but actually actively seeking ideas, perspectives, and solutions coming from across party lines because

this is reality.

I'm a very practical and pragmatic person.

I'm an independent-minded person, and I call things like I see it.

I am just as willing and able to call out my own party when they're wrong, as well as when they're right, as I am the Republican Party when they're wrong or when they're right.

And it's this kind of clarity

and putting country first that I think voters across this country are demanding as we're seeing some of these changes continuing to occur in this election.

Let me just touch on the Hillary lawsuit.

What are you hoping to achieve with that?

I've had several people say you will have to prove damages.

It's going to be almost impossible to prove the damages.

So,

what are you hoping to gain?

I will leave the legal machinery to the attorneys, but I'll tell you for myself.

Some in the media are portraying this as, well, this is just another news story or this is just a media stunt, but they don't understand that this is about my life.

You know, I've dedicated my entire adult life to serving our country.

After the attacks on 9-11, like so many Americans, I made that decision to

serve and to protect the safety, security, and freedom of the American people and being being willing to put my life on the line to do so.

I'm still serving in the Army National Guard now.

I've deployed twice to the Middle East and of course I'm still serving in Congress now, seven going on eight years.

And so for Hillary Clinton and her powerful allies in Washington

to essentially try to

portray me as a traitor to the country that I love, it takes away the very essence of who I am.

The oath of loyalty that I have taken to the country that I love.

I mean somebody like somebody so this is a serious thing.

Yeah, somebody like Hillary Clinton saying that you're a Russian asset

has got to make an impact on you, your career, but also personally

just very much so.

Very much so.

And personally for myself, but I'm actually thinking of the amazing patriots who I've served with, people who have also dedicated their lives, literally their lives, willing to sacrifice everything in service to our country.

This is what defines us.

And so for her and her powerful allies to so completely devalue that honor, that loyalty, that sacrifice in service to our country, it cannot go unchecked.

And this is why I'm filing this lawsuit.

Is this just an old beef because of the Bernie Sanders endorsement, or is there something deeper there, do you think?

This is something that only she can answer.

I think from my perspective, I see two things that seem to be very clear.

Number one is that she hasn't let go of the fact that I resigned as vice chair of the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders very specifically for one reason,

the vast difference in Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and worldview.

What kind of commander-in-chief they would be.

Bernie, largely non-interventionist.

Hillary Clinton, extremely interventionist, and a neolib war hawk.

And consistently, the second thing is that throughout my time in Congress, I have been speaking out strongly against the very foreign policy legacy that she represents of being the world's police, waging regime change wars in other countries that have not made us any safer and that have cost us tremendously the lives of my brothers and sisters in uniform, as well as every American in taxpayer dollars, dollars that are coming out of our schools, our classrooms, coming out of our infrastructure needs in our communities, going as they are now in Afghanistan, $4 billion every month.

$4 billion every month.

That's $5.5 million per hour.

And I hear from people every day who question, my gosh, those resources could be going towards opioid recovery and helping those who are struggling with substance abuse and addiction here in New Hampshire and across the country.

130 Americans dying every day from this opioid epidemic.

So this cost is very real and

I see how Hillary Clinton and her powerful allies are sending a message through what they are doing to me to say if you dare cross us, we will come after you.

I will tell you that I think your foreign policy actually has more in common now with this new Republican, I shouldn't say Republican, new

conservative viewpoint on let's bring people home.

This is enough

is enough.

And we keep making the same mistake over and over.

Let me break for 10 seconds station ID and back with Tulsi Gabbard.

With Tulsi Gabbard, who is up in New Hampshire, she's running for president of the United States in the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with her.

She's running at 8%

in New Hampshire.

She qualifies for the CNN debate.

She can't get an answer on why she wasn't asked to attend, but instead Deval Patrick was, and he's running at 2%.

Tulsi,

we're up against impeachment now.

We haven't heard from witnesses.

I think legally it was the right call.

If I'm the president's attorney, You won the case, end it.

Politically, I think we should have heard from witnesses, and I would have liked to.

Let's say they vote on Wednesday to acquit, which I think they will.

Should there be, should the House go in to John Bolton?

Should we hear from the Biden?

Should we investigate any of this stuff?

Or is it time just to walk away from this?

I've spoken a lot about this and just pointed out from

shortly, how shortly after Donald Trump was elected, there were immediately members of my party who were pushing for impeachment, largely because of political differences, not willing to accept the outcome of the election, policy differences,

and their criticisms of Donald Trump.

And I've spoken about how dangerous it is to have this process be driven in a very hyper-partisan way, frankly, on both sides, and how not doing so in an objective way really only further divides an already divided country.

It's why I made a very conscious decision to vote present when

those votes came before the House of Representatives to take a stand for the center against this hyper-partisanship in Washington while also introducing a censure resolution that actually included many more of the

unconstitutional actions that President Trump has taken and frankly something that I think would have been more likely to gain bipartisan support.

What I'm hearing from people

I'm sorry, we're up against the network break.

Unless you care to stay longer, we'd love to have you longer.

How can people get involved with your campaign?

Thank you.

Tulsi2020.com.

I look forward.

I'm the best Democrat, best candidate to be able to defeat Trump in November of 2020.

Appreciate you all, people from all party lines, coming and joining us in our People-Powered Movement.

Thank you so much, Tulsi Geward.

Hello, America.

It's Monday, day of the Iowa caucus.

Tomorrow is the State of the Union.

I will be in Washington, D.C., in

the Senate chamber for

that speech?

Or is it the House chamber?

You're going to miss it then because it's in the House chamber.

I'm going to be in the House chamber

watching that.

You see so much that television just doesn't show you.

I don't watch the president.

I'm watching all the people and the floor show.

It's pretty amazing.

It's going to be a historic speech because the next day he goes in for the vote to either acquit or to convict for his impeachment.

So it's kind of a busy week, politically speaking.

Then on Thursday night at 8 p.m.

Eastern, a free special, we're making it available for everyone.

Look for the Blaze YouTube channel and make sure you're watching the live special 8 p.m.

on Thursday.

It's the final piece, the Ukraine, the final piece, the billion-dollar question.

And we have the answer for you.

And it has nothing to do with really the impeachment of Trump, although it makes sense fully now.

The impeachment of Trump has very little to do with the Bidens

or any of the stuff that we have talked about.

The final piece is much bigger than that.

And quite honestly, I think it's going to shock Democrats.

It will make...

total sense, no denying it.

And I think anybody who voted for Barack Obama is going to be disgusted by what this story is really all about.

That is Thursday, Ukraine, the final piece, 8 p.m.

Eastern.

All right, let me go back now to Iowa, which happens today.

One of the people that really had their finger on the pulse during the 2016 election was Selena Zito, because she is a reporter that doesn't listen necessarily to all the other reporters.

She's listening to the people, and she travels by car, and she stops in diners, and she's actually listening.

I wanted to get her view on what's happening in Iowa today.

Selena, welcome to the program.

Thank you so much for having me.

And I have to tell you, you're absolutely right.

When you watch the State of the Union address, no matter whose president is, watching it

in the House chamber, and if you're watching it from the gallery, it's just a fascinating moment of human behavior.

It really is.

You see what that president is dealing with, and you see the little clicks, and it's amazing.

People should you should have another camera just on the House and the Senate

because you learn an awful lot.

Anyway, absolutely,

absolutely correct.

Okay, so Selena, tell me what you think is going on

today

in

Iowa.

What are you sensing is

we're going to be talking about tomorrow at this point?

I think tomorrow at this point, we're going to be talking about Bernie Sanders.

And I think he has a high probability of winning this

caucus.

And here's why.

You know, in 2004, when we were heading into the caucus, everyone was like, Howard Dean, Howard Dean, Howard Dean.

But what they missed, and I remember writing this, or saying this, I can't remember, it feels like 5,000 years ago, right?

But I remember noticing that they didn't have the ground support that is necessary to get the voters out to caucus.

Because if anybody knows anything about how you caucus, it's an investment of your personal time.

And I don't mean like 15 minutes, you know, waiting in line and going to the ballot box.

I'm talking about three to four hours at night.

It's usually cold.

It's almost always snowing.

And you have to really put it out there in terms of who you are supporting.

Everyone in your precinct knows who you supported, and if that person does not miss

hit that threshold, then there's some bartering that goes on.

And it's really sort of fascinating.

But Bernie has done, and I think this has been underreported,

his campaign team has done an incredible job of getting really

good people, people trusted in their community, to get voters out.

And that's how you win a caucus.

Right.

And

when you're searching for a candidate, which it seems many of the Iowans are, they're not satisfied with any of them.

They've been looking for somebody that they think could win.

They don't have a consensus on this.

They keep going back and forth.

It's like going to buy a pair of shoes with a woman in a store.

They're trying on every single pair and they're going to to walk away with none of them in the end.

That's the way this kind of feels.

And the only one that has true, true, deep support, I think, are Yang and Sanders.

Yes, you are absolutely right.

Yang is this really sort of once-in-a-lifetime interesting candidate for the Democratic Party.

He's young, he's

funny, he's brilliant.

His politics

are a real mixed bag.

Yeah, as I say, stuff.

Yeah, very left and right.

Yes.

Yeah, he's like a buffet of choices, all in one candidate.

Well, the thing that he has that none of the other ones have is he's very aspirational.

That is that thing

that Barack Obama had in 2008 that made things click.

Pete Buttigieg has tried to project that, but he doesn't, has not done that effectively because I think in the way that he has handled religion has been negative because he pits different denominations against each other.

Christians don't like that at all.

So

what is your thought on we have Steve Dace coming up, who is really good on the

Iowa caucus.

And

he's a political player that's been on

looking at this and on the inside for 20 years.

And he said he thinks there's a chance we go to a brokered convention because the Bernie people, he thinks, will win in Iowa, then in New Hampshire, and in Arizona.

Maybe Biden wins in South Carolina, but then Bernie is really kind of on this roll.

Right.

But whether he can get

enough delegates to win, we may be entering a brokered convention.

How likely do you think that is?

So he's not wrong.

You know, every four years,

the reporters love to throw that out and say, oh, this could happen.

Actually, this is the year that it could happen.

This is actually the year that it could happen.

And I see a similar scenario.

I see the possibility of

Bernie winning Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

You know, people always talk about Nevada as being about Hispanic voters.

It's not about Hispanic voters.

It's about union voters.

Yes.

People always miss that.

And these are the to the left unions.

These aren't the sort of energy unions that you find out here in Western Pennsylvania or Ohio or Colorado or Texas.

And so I think there's, you know, I could see a scenario where Biden, or where Bernie wins Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and

the race goes to South Carolina, Biden will still win South Carolina, but not at all as strong as people anticipated.

And I can see Bloomberg saying, you know what, it's time for me to step in.

I can do this.

And that's when everything just sort of blows up.

The Democratic establishment and the media do not want Bernie Sanders to be the nominee.

They just don't.

He's not been part of their team.

He doesn't listen in the way that other candidates, they would anticipate other candidates or nominees to listen.

And he's not part of the club.

And

isn't that a reason for those on the left to vote for him even more?

Doesn't that make their case stronger?

Exactly.

Right.

I mean, they learned nothing from 2016.

Nothing.

No, they learned absolutely nothing.

You know, it's the establishment class, the chattering class, the Democrats and the media sort of conglomerate that

sort of

have been the ones that have not understood 2016, not just because of Trump, but also because of Bernie.

And I always think it's sort of fascinating, even among establishment Republicans, that none of these political parties have said, oh, dear God,

they picked him.

Maybe we must have been really bad.

Let's be reflective about that.

No, we don't do that.

Let's just make fun of those people.

They're dumb.

Yeah.

So

if Bernie does take off, doesn't that, I mean, because Bernie is the closest thing to Donald Trump that that side has.

I mean, I just saw him on TV just a few minutes ago on one of the news channels, and I'm like, look at him.

There's no way this guy could win.

Just look at him.

He's 78 years old.

He looks angry.

He's kind of mean.

He's just not a politician

in the traditional sense.

And then I thought that's exactly what people said and I said about Donald Trump.

And look where he is now.

Yeah, I think that what people, what people within the establishment

and or not part of the movement, don't understand about populism is that populism today is the more

skepticism about all things big.

That includes government, that includes politics, that includes media, that includes entertainment.

They haven't sort of have grasped or understood

what they have done, how they have failed over these past 30 years, and they have created what has happened within both parties.

Also, technology really, really

has added to that because in our daily lives, think about this.

We have removed the curators from our lives.

What do I mean by that?

Think about Sears.

When we used to shop, Sears picked everything.

If you wanted to buy an appliance, it was Kenmore.

If you wanted to buy tolls, it was Craftsman.

We let some dude in Sears Tower decide what to do.

Well, why didn't anybody think that politics wasn't going to fall in the same way?

Now the biggest department store in this country is Amazon.

We have blown up, technology has essentially blown up these large political parties.

They're still going to exist, but they don't have the power that they used to have.

Selena, let me switch topics and sides quickly because I've only got about a minute and a half.

The ramifications of impeachment, how's this going to play out?

It's not going to impact.

anything at all.

If anything,

this story just now out of Wisconsin, if anything, it has made people more, less likely to vote Democrat because they see this as a political maneuver and more likely to at least consider Trump or not show up to vote at all.

And that is a problem

for the Democratic Party.

And they don't understand it and they don't realize it.

And every time I write a story like this and do this reporting, they make fun of it.

But they're missing it again as they missed it in 2016.

Do you believe that the Sanders people, the real radicals that are in his followers, that there could be trouble in Wisconsin this summer if they don't give it to him?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I think there's going to be some sort of

problems.

How extreme those problems get just depends on who gets attracted to them.

Right.

But, you know, there is certainly a lot of potent potential for that that to become a problem.

All right.

Selena, thank you so much.

We'll talk to you again if you're available.

Maybe we'll get some analysis from you again tomorrow.

Thank you so much, Selena Zito.

That's awesome.

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