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Big day for the impeachment.

Witness, no witness.

We actually have Joe Lieberman on.

He says for the first time how he would vote.

We talked about the difference between this impeachment and the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

Also, we addressed Trump's peace talk plan.

He was fascinating.

We have Bill O'Reilly on.

We talk a little bit about the

coronavirus, which you don't get from beer, believe it or not, but I think it might be a cure.

You should try it this weekend.

And also, Daniel Hannon from London, just a few hours away from

the official Brexit as they leave the European Union.

His thoughts on that, on freedom, and

what America is doing right now and the choices in front of us.

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How are you doing, Pat?

Good.

Good.

Thanks for filling in.

Stu as always is on his Super Bowl trip.

He goes to the Super Bowl, and

it's nothing but snorting Coke off the belly of hookers for him for two days.

He gets it out of his system, and then he comes back, and he's a completely moral guy.

Mostly.

Well,

I think he breaks down again around Memorial Day.

Around Memorial Day.

Well, because he doesn't.

Right.

You know what I mean?

You know,

which non-service member of us doesn't just break down around Memorial Day?

And there's no way to do that.

There aren't going to be people like that.

No, no.

Have to do blow or something, you know, off the belly of hookers because that's the way.

I think, as Stu says, that's the way Jesus would want it.

Now, I disagree with that, but

it's Stu.

So anyway, Pat, one word in context of today,

Romney.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Meaning he may vote for witnesses.

May?

Well, I want him to, honestly.

I just want to get this out.

And as you've said several times, Lance that boil.

They're just going to be relentless if they don't have some sort of witness event happening.

I think there are two ways to look at this.

And

quite honestly, the way we look at it is the right way.

Obviously.

All those dummies that disagree with us, well, you're just plain wrong.

There's two ways to look at it.

And I think the one way which everybody, including me, is looking at this, you just want it over.

You know what I mean?

You know, there is nothing to this.

And this is

John Bolton is another,

oh, the steel dossier proves it.

Oh,

Mueller proves it.

Oh, my gosh.

Vince, I mean, not Vince Flynn, but what's his name?

General Flynn, it proves it.

Oh, this phone call, it proves it.

None of these things, every time they make them into a big deal, and not one of them have made, have moved the needle at all.

None of them are what they say it is.

Okay?

So

when you're looking at John Bolton, I think conservatives generally have supported John Bolton his whole career.

We like him.

We trust him.

And I don't want to throw him under the bus.

I think he's wrong here on the way he's approached this with the book.

Yes, and the way that Democrats have treated him is so hypocritical.

I mean,

they talked about his lack of credibility

before when he was nominated for the UN position and all along the line.

They've hated this guy.

And now all of a sudden, they've got to hear the truth from John Bolton.

John Bolton's the only one that can tell us the truth.

And I don't want to play the opposite.

He's lying.

I don't think John Bolton is lying.

I don't think John Bolton has anything real to say.

Because I know John Bolton, and I think he is a man of credibility.

I think his credibility has been destroyed by him taking a big payday from Simon ⁇ Schuster to write a book.

Now, does he have anything in the book?

Here's why it should happen, in my opinion.

There's two ways to look at this.

There's nothing there.

I'm tired of this.

Let's move on.

Okay?

That's all understandable, and I feel that way.

However,

and wait, there's three ways.

Also, the legal way.

The president has won his case.

No attorney, you know, let's say your job is at stake.

Your life is at stake.

Your name is at stake.

Everything's at stake.

And the prosecution comes in with this guy who's like, no, I got Pat Gray.

He's going to testify against Glenn.

He's got a big book deal coming out in a little while.

Oh, they don't want to hear from Pat.

It's been his best friend.

He's been there for 30 years.

What does he have to say?

Okay.

And I'm like, well, geez, Pat has turned on me.

Don't worry about it.

Pat has nothing.

We can take him apart because I know Pat and I know what Pat has seen and I can tell you everything about it.

No attorney would say,

okay, let's do that.

You'd say, no, but if it's Pat, my best friend, and he goes off and he's going to release this book, let's at least get him on the stand so I can cross-examine him because the media will run all of the book release stuff from him they will do they will do fawning interviews because they want to destroy me no one will ask tough questions well you can do that under the auspices of the trial correct so the way to do it is to have him testify so you can hold his feet to the fire when everyone is watching and you have all that information out of the way right taking care of it now it's all right now pats now's pat's book is worthless because we've already heard it in the trial.

It didn't hurt me.

It didn't do anything.

So Pat can do whatever he wants, but what are you going to read in his book?

We've already heard it all.

So it destroys the book.

It destroys the book tour

because there's nothing new to go over.

But if you don't do it,

when that book is released, it's a huge event and you have a fawning media that wants John Bolton to be saying bad things about the president.

so the Democrats can then say, you know what?

Let me tell you this right now, John Bolton, did you see that interview?

I hope you didn't watch it too long because there's really nothing there, but I know you didn't watch it, so we can spin it this way.

And that's the information we had.

And this president of the Republican Party, they're now stealing this election.

That's what will happen.

But no attorney, if I were Trump's attorney, I would say, end it.

End it.

You won.

Okay?

End it right now.

Push for acquittal.

Do not put another witness on.

And if you believe you've won,

what are you going to super win by keeping it going even further?

Right.

No, you're not.

Right.

But as Nancy Pelosi said, if they don't do the trial, and this is what they're going to hammer the whole year, the whole campaign year.

There was no acquittal because they didn't do a trial.

They didn't actually do a trial.

They didn't actually care about the truth.

So they just shut it all down and didn't get to the truth.

That's what we're going to hear the whole time, right up to the election.

And I just don't want, I don't want them to have that talking point.

Well, there is a way to get rid of that talking point.

And I think beside the trial, you could end the trial today.

We have something, and I wish I could come out with it today.

I mean, I can't tell you how hard I have fought internally.

Can we just do this special now?

Because I want it out before the trial, but we can't do it.

We have certain things that have to fall into place for us to be able to release this.

But I am telling you, I read the script last night, and it still has chunks in it that are not buttoned up, but we think we're getting the paperwork to prove it because we've seen it.

We just don't have it in hand.

And as I'm looking at it and reading this, I looked at my staff last night.

I mean, I read it last night with the staff around me.

And as I'm reading, it's like 40 pages.

And I said, this is the most powerful special we've ever done.

This may be the biggest story we have ever broken.

Wow.

It is.

Wow.

It's

shocking.

And it's much more.

The corruption, everything we said that was going on, it all's gone on.

But there is a deeper story to it that

is,

how can I put this without?

It is.

It is a story that has driven the news on

a couple of presidents and

I just can't say.

It is a huge, huge story, and it is not about this president.

It's about Barack Obama.

We found something that the Obama administration

was doing

that

will destroy,

destroy the Obama administration and its legacy

to the left.

You're talking about the scandal-free Barack Obama administration?

Scandal-free.

No,

this will piss the left off

so much.

The left will be like, excuse me,

and

we're going to expose that.

So if they don't do this trial, believe me, what we are going to expose next Thursday.

And by the way, we're opening it up.

It'll be free.

We want everybody to see it.

It's not going to be behind the paywall.

You'll be able to see it on YouTube and Facebook and all of our platforms platforms for free.

But watch it

because

it is,

you can end this trial

and begin a new trial that must be done.

And you're not talking about trying Obama.

You're talking about exposing Obama and then exposing all of the people that were involved in it.

And it's beyond corruption.

And I can't, you'll understand what I mean by that.

but it is, it is corrupt, illegal, unconstitutional, but beyond corruption.

I thought this was about corruption and power.

It is about that with some.

Hunter Biden is

involved

to his neck up,

but it is

the worst that we have seen in the past from presidents,

two of which I know

went through massive trials in history for this.

And it is an affront to Congress, the Constitution, all of it.

So you want to close this down?

Great, close it down.

But they must now go back and say, how did this happen?

We spent $34 million

on

a Mueller report.

The Mueller report did nothing.

Mueller report did nothing, had nothing.

This started from before he was even in office, and now this one, how many millions of dollars in time was wasted on this one?

What was that really about?

And it is not about

just protecting Joe Biden.

It's really not.

And I can lay out the case that

that is not what Donald Trump was doing.

He knows.

He knows what was going on.

I can take you to all the things in the phone call, in the July 25th phone call, that didn't make sense.

And things that we were like, why would he say that?

Now

we know.

We found one piece and we're like, follow that.

And it connects all of it.

And the timing is

beyond,

dare I use the word perfect

it's beyond perfect

so what do you think happens today Stu or even Pat

I I think they probably

I think they probably block the witnesses

I mean it looked like earlier in the week they couldn't stop it now looks like they're almost certainly going to.

I think because what, I mean, Lamar Alexander came out yesterday and he he said seen enough.

I've seen enough.

There's even what no matter what John Bolton says, it's not impeachable.

Right.

So it doesn't matter.

And I like that

look at it.

I do too.

You know, but if it doesn't matter, then why not do it anyway?

Other than this just dragging it on.

But I like that approach.

It doesn't matter.

Now, Romney, I don't think is doing it for the reason we think he should do it.

I think he just really thinks, well, no, wait a minute, there might be something there that we should look into.

I don't think he's doing it politically.

I think Romney is so,

he has so self-aggrandized himself that he's forgotten that he represents

the people of the state of Utah.

He's representing Mitt Romney because I don't believe the people in Utah want him to

do this.

Yeah, I don't think so either.

I mean, he won.

What did Trump win by 18 points in Utah?

Yeah.

And Utah was not a state that was raw, raw Donald Trump.

They kind of held their nose because of his personal life.

They held their nose and voted for him.

But things change.

They still, I don't think, like him the way he behaves personally in the tweets and everything else.

But they have seen, like I have seen, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There are some some amazing things that he is doing.

Romney still doesn't like him.

And Romney, I think, still thinks he's better than

Donald Trump and everyone else in the Senate.

I mean, I think he really truly believes, and I, quite honestly, I think he's part of a problem of trying to tell everybody that he's the reasonable one and Mike Lee is this crazy extremist.

And I don't think that's going to fly.

I hope not.

They've done that to Mike Lee, though, for a while.

Yeah, they have.

Yeah.

I don't know how people...

Powers to be in Utah paint him as an extremist.

And it's awful.

It's wrong.

And it's not true.

It's not.

Mike Lee is the most reasonable

senator

among the thoughtful.

He's worked with Bernie Sanders on things.

When he can make a connection on the Constitution, he'll do it.

Mike Lee is, I mean, if Mike Lee was the one saying, no, we should hear witnesses, I would go with Mike Lee

because there's not really political bones in his body.

He hates that.

Cares about the Constitution.

Only cares about the Constitution.

And Mitt Romney, I think, is,

I don't,

I just,

there's not been a bigger disappointment.

No, Roger Ailes.

Not been a bigger disappointment than Mitt Romney.

He is just,

he's politically smarmy,

I think.

He is.

So good luck with that.

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Something isn't right on this.

It's just something's not right.

And here's why I say this.

I want to believe that the Chinese have learned their lessons from the past.

And the avian flu and

all the flus past the, what was the other one?

SARS.

Yeah, SARS that the world chastised them.

And those communists went, you know what?

We should be more open with information.

Okay, now that's possible.

Yeah, maybe, but

never happens.

It's never happened.

Even during the period called Glasnos, which meant openness, didn't it?

Isn't that what it meant?

Openness.

In the period of glassnos in the former Soviet Union, this is at the end when, you know, hey, you know what?

We want to be less communist and more like you guys.

We're going to be open.

Chernobyl goes off.

We can see the cloud.

We can measure the radiation.

And they're like, what?

No, that's probably coming from your microwave oven.

I mean, it was insane.

All right.

So maybe they've changed,

but probably not.

Now, the reason why we're not so freaked out right now, and I think that's a good thing, is that we are believing the numbers given to us by the Chinese to the WHO.

We don't really know what's happening.

We don't have any idea.

But, Pat, what are the latest totals?

I know it's what, just over 200 worldwide that have died?

Yeah.

And some of the infection.

Something like 8,500 infected.

Okay.

That was the last number I heard, but it goes up quickly and exponentially.

Yes.

Okay.

So 8,500 are infected.

200 are dead.

Now, some of those numbers are coming from the West, but most of those numbers are in

China.

Now, everyone's saying,

and I've looked I've done my research on the flu and the pandemic for years, for two decades, for 20 years I've been studying this stuff because scientists have said another one is coming.

Okay, it's only a matter of time.

So I've gone back through my notes and I've looked at the stuff that we have done before.

We've looked at the science.

We've done all of our work.

And what bothers me is this one seems to have all of the earmarks of the one that everyone's been saying in the scientific world.

It's going to look like this.

It's going to jump from an animal and an animal that we haven't really had a problem with before.

And it's going to be highly infectious.

It's going to mutate quickly.

It'll It'll probably start someplace in China.

And it will start, and we won't even know that you're infected

and you're still spreading this disease, which is not done in flus.

But that's what the really bad one will look like.

Okay, that looks like this one.

It has every one of those earmarks.

Right.

Every one of them.

It's going to be more contagious than SARS.

It is.

And you're just going to have to quarantine everybody.

You're just going to have to stop everything.

Okay, now let's just.

Nobody in the world is freaking out.

Okay.

And you shouldn't freak out.

We don't know.

But can we just tie some things together?

First of all,

and I'm not sure of the actual carriers, but I know it was like KLM.

I know British Airways, Lufthansa.

Big airlines all across Europe have stopped all transportation in and out of China.

They're not flying from Europe or to Europe anymore.

We are.

Russia shut its border, the entire Chinese border.

You ain't coming into Russia.

Hong Kong,

they built this brand new, beautiful condominium complex in Hong Kong.

And it wasn't open yet for sale.

The Chinese government came in and said, we're going to put infected people in that building in isolation

uh and the hong kong people thought no you're not and so the hong kong people got went in the streets and they burned the entire complex to the ground okay

so wait a minute

yeah china doesn't have any space for the 8,500 people.

They got to ship them to a brand new condominium complex in Hong Kong.

And the people are like, no, you're not.

And they burn it to the the ground.

All schools, all schools have been shut indefinitely, and over 70 million people, 70 million people are now quarantined in China.

For something that has caused 200 deaths and has 8,500 people sick?

I mean, there are other diseases that are going on right now that have 200 dead and 10,000 people infected with it.

Imagine our government saying, there's something going on right now, and we just want to get a handle on it.

So we're closing Los Angeles, Chicago, no one in or out.

Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, Miami.

Hell, let's just close the entire eastern seaboard.

All right?

Anything near I-95, shut down.

I-95, no buses, no trains, no planes, nothing.

Would we be saying,

what are you not telling us?

How bad is this?

Yeah.

Is what you'd be saying.

You'd be saying that.

Because you'd cripple the economy.

Right.

Apple, Intel, all of these companies, major companies are thinking of suspending operations in China.

We're now talking about the ports.

The ports are now closing around the world from China.

Jeez.

Really?

For something that's killed 200 people?

Something just doesn't seem right.

Unless China is just like, we are going to show everybody you get a sniffle and you will never spread it to another person.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Or maybe they're trying out, can we keep people in cities?

And they're trying out all their new technology.

Possibly.

They're either being super medical and to hell with the economy,

which no way, no way.

We could have a plague here, and there would be reasonable conversations to have.

If you shut this down, you will destroy the economy of America, and it will take us five years, and we may never recapture our position.

You must do everything you can to keep things open.

Yeah.

What's happening?

It does sound like they're lying, doesn't it?

It does.

It does.

And they've got a nice history of lying.

So.

The Chinese?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shut up.

I know it's hard to believe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Usually communist governments are so open and honest.

Well, North Korea.

Oh, forthright.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anything goes wrong, they tell everybody about it.

Hey, look out, we might have a problem problem here.

We just wanted you to know.

So does this bother you at all?

Have you thought of, I mean, I had a conversation with my family last night.

I said, look, this is not going to happen.

It's not going to happen.

But let's just all mentally prepare.

This is what our line is going to be.

If it looks like they're starting to cordon off areas,

this is what our family is going to do.

I want you to call the schools and find out because

our kids go to an international school.

So, has any of the parents, anybody been in China in the last couple of months?

If so, we want to know about it.

I don't need to know the names, but I want to know about it.

You know, taking these precautions.

Is anybody doing that?

I don't think America is really paying attention to this.

And that's really prudent because we only have what?

We had the first person-to-person

infection in, was it Chicago?

I think where

the wife came home from Wuhan and her husband got infected.

That's the first time that's happened here.

So I think that's why, you know, there's only a few people infected that we are absolutely sure about.

But if there were a thousand people infected in the U.S., I think people would really start to worry about it.

A thousand people.

The problem happened overnight.

The problem with this is the average flu, and think how common the flu is.

The average flu has a,

it's called an R0 rating, which means how

easy it is to pass.

For instance, smallpox has an R0 rating of 16 to 18.

20 is the top, and it means that one person affected will infect 16 to 18 other people.

Oh.

Okay.

The flu, the regular flu, is 1.1.

So you have the flu, you're going to give it to just over one other person.

All right.

The Spanish flu, the one that was the pandemic of 1918,

was not infectious until you started to show symptoms.

That's a big one.

And it only had an R-naught rating of 2.4.

This one, they believe, has an R0 rating of 3.8.

Okay, so it's almost double that of the Spanish flu.

And here's the bigger problem.

You are infectious the minute you meet someone that has it, even if they show no symptoms, it can jump to you and the incubation period is anywhere between five and 14 days.

And in those five and 14 days, you can be spreading it, but you have no symptoms.

And the way it spreads,

handshakes, right?

And then, like, if I shake your hand and you have it, and then I touch my eyes, it it goes through the eyes, the nose, the mouth.

Correct.

So it's not even airborne.

It's not airborne.

So anybody you shake hands with.

Or if you get sneezed on, there's another problem.

Yeah, but that's, but that's nor, that's the normal way flu.

People are like, don't, don't, stay away from me.

I got the flu.

You're not contagious before you show symptoms.

This one is.

Yeah.

So everyone you meet,

everyone you're around,

okay, if they have it, they they don't even know they have it.

And so, this one, remember, the Spanish flu killed 50 million people worldwide.

675,000 here in America.

Can you imagine something killing 675,000 Americans?

I mean, to put it to put it into context, the Spanish flu,

which only infected a third of the world

and only killed 10%

of that third,

killed more people than World War I

and World War II combined.

A flu.

And it did it in 18 months.

That's what we're concerned about.

And quite honestly,

you know, here's one time I'm saying maybe we should pay attention to Europe.

If Europe is grounding their planes, why isn't the United States of America?

We should be grounding our planes when it comes to China.

Sorry, until we know what we're dealing with, no planes in, no planes out.

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Bill, before we go to Iowa, there's a new report that shows the evening news spin.

on the impeachment hearings.

They looked at all of the evening news programs.

They found their news 100% negative on Donald Trump's defense, 95% positive for Democrats.

Absolutely humanly impossible.

Impossible if you're trying to be at all fair.

But they're not.

Yes, right.

Everybody knows that.

Right.

I did the story last night on the No Spin News on billorilly.com.

And I basically looked at the audience, I said, I'm sorry to bore you.

because I know you know this already, that if you watch an American television news network for news, you're not going to get the news anymore.

That's not what they're in business to do.

They're in business to promote an ideology, number one, and number two, to elect candidates that back up what ideology they want.

That's what the industry is now.

So now,

but with that being said, there was another poll taken by people who read, or of people who read the New York Times.

People who read the New New York Times, when they heard the New York Times endorse Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar, the people who read the paper,

5% of those people moved to Joe Biden.

Okay?

So even their own readership is like, okay, I don't trust these people.

Is that accurate to say?

What would you take from that?

I think so.

Listen, I think that Americans, no matter how nutty they may be politically on both the right and the left, all right, essentially want an honest presentation.

Correct.

I mean, I think 90% of them want honesty, even if they don't like to hear it, right?

Even if they that's why I have been so successful, and all the research on me shows that.

So you may not like me, all right, and I understand that,

but you'll get a fair play when you listen to me, analyze the news like you just said if Trump says I'm dopey I'm gonna tell you but

what what has happened now in America is a lot of people don't seek the truth anymore they don't care about it they want an outcome all right so the me too people want males to be crushed that's the outcome they want they don't want fairness they're not looking for facts and that's what you're getting in politics so the outcome that the left wants is Trump out of office.

How you get him out of office doesn't really matter to them.

But the declining audiences at network news have to be.

I mean, look at CBS evening news.

My God, it's a collapse.

And CNN, collapse.

So, you know, that's the reality in the country we live in right now.

All right.

You're still standing that Joe Biden is going to take the caucus?

Now you're distorting me.

Well, that's what I do.

I'm part of the mainstream media now.

You know, you're a guy by the pool.

I'm, you know,

I'm here to distort.

Yeah, if you do it again, I'm taking your cowboy boots away.

All right.

Now, I said Biden's going to win the nomination, but I have been steadfast in saying

Iowa is so crazy that nobody can predict it.

Yeah.

And here's why it's so crazy.

150,000 people vote out of a state of about 3.5 million.

The 150,000 who vote, they don't go to the polls back.

They go to a little schoolhouse or a little VFW hall or whatever it may be, and they stand around.

And they go, I like Biden.

No, I like Bernie.

No, I like Blue and Judge.

And then at the end of an hour,

they say, okay, let's write this down who you want.

Very informal, very undisciplined, and only the real true believers participate, not the folks.

This is on the right, too.

Remember, Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucus last time around.

Right.

What's really interesting is it's not all like that.

I went to a couple of high schools for the caucus, and they would have the, you know, for instance, next Monday, they'll have the Bernie people here.

They'll have the Elizabeth Warren people in this room.

And you can go listen to them.

And

they're bargaining for your vote.

And they'll say, look, Warren doesn't have a chance.

I know you really like Warren, but she doesn't have a chance.

Throw in with Bernie because he could take this, and then you'll get your socialist utopia.

And so it's not going in and making a personal decision.

It is the party

very, very active,

going in, and the ones who make the most compelling strategic argument, I think, are the ones that usually come out.

Yeah, but there's a lot of ideology involved in it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, look, if I had to put Bunny down now

on the Iowa caucus,

I would say Sanders wins.

And Biden does pretty well.

Biden's running around a little bus.

Am I in Iowa or

is this Nebraska?

Joe's in the bus.

He's yelling at people out the window.

And Booty Judge is running around too.

Remember that

Bernie and Warren and Klobuchar, they've been holed up in the Senate.

They couldn't get to Iowa.

And meantime, Lil Pete is knocking on your door.

He's sliding down your chimney.

And he's a charming guy.

So he'll do okay.

So I would say it's Sanders, Biden, Booty Judge, one, two, three.

Which makes the State of the Union address even easier when he because Trump could make this about capitalism versus socialism.

I think Trump will go light on the individuals and heavy on the ideology.

Yeah, like I just said, you may not like me, but do you want these people taking the station wagon out of your garage?

Because that's what they're going to do.

They're going to take all your stuff.

They want to run your life in every way, shape, and form.

And he'll hit the guns.

He'll hit a whole bunch of stuff in the State of the Union.

All right.

I'm pro-life.

I'm pro-Second Amendment.

I'm this.

I'm that.

And look at these other people.

They're going to take everything you have.

All right.

Everything you have.

And

you'd be foolish, Trump, not use the State of the Union to draw that contract.

Meantime, Bernie gets Iowa, and then he zips into New Hampshire the next week, where where he's a favorite son.

Yeah.

All right, so Warren's campaign has collapsed.

A lot of her people come over to Bernie, and then it'll look bad for Biden.

And believe me, all the cable, TV, left-wing journalists will scream Bernie, Bernie, Bernie.

Okay, because they don't want Biden.

They think Biden is going to not make it to the finish line.

Where

they

Podesta and the wise guys in the Democratic Party don't want Bernie Sanders at all.

But the media favors Sanders over Biden.

And if Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire, which he almost certainly is going to,

and then he wins in Nevada where he's performing pretty well, he's got pretty serious momentum by the time you get to South Carolina.

Can anybody stop him if he wins those first three?

Oh, yeah.

You think so?

Number one,

I don't think he's going to win Nevada.

I think the Biden people are going to really throw a lot of stuff into Nevada.

And the unions are very strong.

Unions are very strong.

Yeah.

Right.

They're going to go with Biden.

But so is Pot.

And then

Biden will wipe out Bernie in South Carolina because African Americans are a big part of that electorate on the Democratic side.

Correct.

And they don't like Bernie.

See, Bernie doesn't compute with the minority communities, Hispanics or African Americans.

Fascinating because they don't like him.

And I did a big thing on Bernie, and I don't know whether you guys know it or not, but he has made millions of dollars, he and his wife, right?

Off the public goal.

He's Hunter Biden.

He's Jane Sanders is Hunter Biden.

Yeah.

Although they didn't use overseas, it was here.

I'll give you one example.

Jane Biden was appointed president of Burlington College.

200 students, 200 students ran the college into bankruptcy.

And part of the reason was she awarded her daughter a $500,000 woodworking contract from the college.

It's got 200 students.

So when you get to the ridiculous part.

The ridiculous part.

The press has ignored it.

They know it because Peter Schweitzer's book outlines it.

The press has not even mentioned it.

Even the conservative press, the Fox News people,

haven't even mentioned it.

When I did this this week on the Nospin News, all right, I got calls, what?

What?

How did you get that?

I go, it's public record.

Yeah.

The guy has made $5 million.

He's got three homes and he's never had a private job.

He's never in the private sector, not even Wendy's.

They don't.

I don't think the left cares as long as you're making money.

They don't.

As long as you're making money and you're towing the line and telling everybody that, you know, there has to be somebody to oversee against all the corruption of all the other people, you're fine.

That's true, but there's not enough far-left nuts to put Bernie Sanders

into the nomination.

I've got to get some moderate Democrats.

Are you concerned at all about Wisconsin and Bernie Sanders, his people?

I mean, we've had two people exposed by Project Veritas

that are saying they're going to burn things down.

They're going to be training.

They're waiting for a revolution.

They want one.

The Democrats aren't going to do this to them again.

Wait until we get Milwaukee.

They were not fired by the Sanders campaign, and they occupy the same position that the guy who went to Virginia to shoot all of the Republicans on the baseball diamond held.

These people are serious.

Nobody's paying attention to it.

How do you feel Wisconsin's going to go if

the Democrats are seen by those guys as maneuvering to hurt Bernie Sanders?

I think Trump has a very good chance to take Wisconsin.

I do, too.

I think he's got, it's more problematic for him in Pennsylvania.

All right.

But Wisconsin and Michigan, the working people, have benefited greatly from the Trump economy in both states.

So I think that he's got a good shot to take those again.

He's got a good shot.

Why is Pennsylvania a problem for him?

Because if it's Biden, as I think it will be, the African-American vote that stayed home last time around, they didn't like Hillary, will come out for Biden

because Barack Obama will campaign for Biden.

It's a little off-talk.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Finish.

That's the difference.

So Philadelphia, if African-American vote vote comes out big for Biden,

that could put him over the top there.

This is a little off-topic, but before you go, I got to find out

how you feel about big gay ice cream.

Do you love it?

Big gay ice cream.

Oh,

you haven't seen the Michael Bloomberg ad?

No.

Yeah, it's his favorite.

So I guess you've never tried it.

You've got to try it.

He says it's the best.

Wait a minute.

So Bloomberg is telling people in an ad that he likes ice cream.

He He likes big gay ice cream.

Ice cream.

And it's very, very authentic.

He takes a spoon.

He's like, hey, where's my ice cream?

Somebody hands him this container of big gay ice cream, and he takes one bite of it and he's like,

big gay, it's the best ice cream ever.

So I didn't know if you had had it.

You've never tried it.

I've never tried it.

All right.

Okay.

Why is that?

Because you hate?

But remember, this is a man who doesn't know how to pet a dog.

He missed the dog's head.

I was petting him with my tire.

What?

Right.

All right.

I don't know how you missed the dog's head, but he did.

But anyway, he got joint arms, I guess.

And when Bloomberg was mayor of New York, I want everybody to remember you couldn't drink Dr.

Pepper.

No, I know.

A federal rate could come to your house and confiscate you, Dr.

Pepper.

He was counting your salaries.

You couldn't have the salt shaker.

I mean, the guy was following you around.

Get out of here.

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I have to tell you, I looked down and

I knew that we had scheduled Joe Lieberman, but I'm looking down and I'm thinking, okay, I'm writing down the things I have to say to Joe Lieberman and get his opinion on.

And then I realized, wow,

Joe and I have been friends for a very long time, and I treated him,

and I've never said this before, because this is pretty new.

Is Joe on the phone?

Joe?

Yes.

Hi.

Good morning, Glenn.

It's great to hear your voice.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Let me start here.

I was very, very hard on you during the impeachment of Clinton, and you know that.

I was really very hard on you.

And I have to apologize to you because

I think you were right in watching Dershowitz, and I don't buy all of his stuff, but in watching Dershowitz, if it's not a political crime, if it's a crime, especially the one he committed, which was perjury about his marriage, I was so dead set on, you can't can't have somebody committing perjury who's the president.

But if we cross these lines, as I understand now from Dershowitz, we become a parliamentary system where it can really easily become a vote of no confidence, and then the president doesn't mean anything.

Was that the way you looked at it at all?

Yeah, first off, you don't have to apologize.

Maybe you would say that.

So back decades, and we had a disagreement, but

you're a big man in many ways.

And one is

I grant you total forgiveness.

Thank you.

Really?

Not at all.

But

you're making a good point.

I tell you, I spent a lot of time during the Clinton impeachment trial going back and looking at what the intention of the was of the great men who wrote our Constitution about impeachment.

And it seemed to me that they were setting a very high bar for taking the president out of office.

And the reason is what has been discussed by Dershwitz and others, which is the centerpiece of the system, the new country they were creating, was elections.

You have to have consent of the governed for those who govern.

And you would only let Congress intervene in that when it was an extreme situation, really that the country I ended up feeling that the country would be in danger if a particular president was kept in office and of course this was before the 25th amendment which came along a lot later that that set up a procedure for removing a president from office for physical or mental incapability so that's why they required two-thirds vote in the Senate and you know I felt and I said it then that that President Clinton's behavior was morally reprehensible

and it wasn't just morally reprehensible but it had an effect on the country because

a leader, I learned growing up, and I learned it a lot from the Bible, that

a leader is actually held to a higher standard than average people because the impact of immorality or wrongdoing is greater.

So long story short, I felt he had done something terribly wrong,

but it hadn't reached the threshold for impeachment.

And I find this running, this is a very different fact situation, the whole business about Ukraine as opposed to Clinton Lewinsky.

But in the end, it's the same test.

And I think it's probably going to come now to

what I would call a reasonable and just conclusion, or let's put it this way, a conclusion that if Madison and Hamilton were here alive today, they would say this is what we intended.

How would you vote today if you were sitting there?

I probably vote for witnesses just because and of course I'm being a little naive in about what I'm about to say.

I know there was some fear that if you had witnesses it would be 15, 17 witnesses.

The impeachment trial would go on for weeks and months.

But in the good old days we wouldn't have negotiated a compromise across party lines.

As we did incidentally on the rules for the Clinton impeachment trial where they were adopted 100 to nothing.

Here it was a straight party line vote.

And then

I've hesitated to say this because I'm not on the field anymore, so I haven't said how I would vote, but

let me we're getting because I wanted to hear all the evidence, but let me just say that I thought Lamar Alexander's statement last night, although he disagreed with what I just said about hearing witnesses, was was right, which is what the call, from all that I know now, the call that President Trump made with President Zelensky of Ukraine was inappropriate, was wrong, it shouldn't have been done.

But did it reach the point where we can say nine months before an election, I want to come back to that point, that he represents, if he keeps him in office, he represents a danger to the country?

I don't think so.

I think it's up to, leave it to the people in November.

In other words, the impeachment

as our framers intended, I believe, was not meant to be punitive, to punish you either criminally or by taking you out of office.

It was meant to protect the country until the next election.

And the closer it is to an election, the higher the threshold for

convicting somebody, president, and removing him from office.

So I think it's coming to a fair conclusion.

Hopefully we can get back to governing.

If not, we can go on to the election and the people will decide.

Right.

Let me switch subjects.

Benjamin Netanyahu was in the Oval Office this week.

They had a big announcement.

I mean, I'm not a dummy.

This, you know, helped Benjamin Netanyahu, I'm sure, in his fight back home.

He's in some trouble.

So I know that this is, you know,

a lot of this is political.

However,

the

peace plan that was given, and honestly, the words of President Trump to the Palestinians at that press conference was, I thought, astounding.

And everything a reasonable group of people should at least sit down and consider.

But it was rejected right out of hand and no one in the press is they're barely even reporting this.

What are your thoughts on this?

No, I totally agree with you in your introductory statement and what you said just now, Glenn.

I mean, I think there was politics, but I would put it this way.

The politics may have been more in the timing of the announcement.

The politics wasn't in the substance.

I thought this was the result of real

effort and persistence

directed by President Trump, but really carried out by Jared Kushner and the others who worked in the administration for it.

Kushner is being mocked by the press.

I saw an interview with him.

I said, well, what makes you an expert?

And he said, well, I mean, you know, I've been working on this a long time.

Just in the last year, I've read probably 25 different books on the different, you know, peace process.

And the headline was, oh, he thinks he can read 25 books and be an expert.

I mean, it's just.

Well, that's that's nasty.

I give him a lot of credit for what he did.

Talked to a lot of people in the Middle East, including

some of the Palestinians.

And this this is a total new beginning.

And I think it's hopeful.

And really, this peace plan offers, in other words,

what everybody was trying for the last, well, since the Oslo Agreement in 19, I think it was 93,

everybody was trying to fit within that format totally, and nothing was happening.

And here again, all the efforts that President Trump, Kushner were making with the Palestinians were going nowhere.

So they simply decided, we're going to begin a new conversation.

And they did.

It gives

Israel security and a lot of what it wanted.

But it honestly, as you've said, think about it, it gives the Palestinians a state that's about twice as large as the territory they now govern, and a capital in East Jerusalem, which they've wanted, and a promise of $50 billion.

It's unbelievable.

It's going to prove the life of their people.

Yeah,

it's

no, no, no.

I'm sorry to interrupt you.

It's staggering, I think, how good this is at the first initial offer.

And there's no interest.

No interest by the current Palestinian leadership,

which has proven I um I went during my time in the Senate over and over again, just about every time I visited Israel, I went to Ramallah to see President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority.

Nice man, pleasant to be with, good to talk to, but but he has proven himself incapable of being a leader who will take the risks for peace and prosperity for his own people.

But Glenn, you pointed a few moments ago to the really significant difference in response to the really significant differences in this Trump Middle East peace plan, which is the response of the Arab world.

Oh, my gosh.

These are the people that lined up against Israel.

They lined up against them.

They are, and correct me if I'm wrong, Joe, they are more pro-Israel, at least sounding, today,

than the Democratic candidates that are running for president?

Well, I can't say every candidate, but some candidates, Democratic candidates, you're absolutely right.

And, you know, there you had in that room, I was there in the East Room at the White House on Tuesday, you had the ambassadors from the United Arab Emirates, big, important country, ally of ours, from Oman and Bahrain, and then the two giants really in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia, host of the two holy mosques of Islam, and Egypt, which has been the historic center of the Arab world and the largest population in the Arab world, both saying,

not endorsing every element of the plan, but supporting it and directly calling on the Palestinians to come to the table and begin to negotiate it.

Right now, based on what's preceded in recent years,

don't expect it from this Palestinian leadership, but maybe we'll be surprised.

Anyway, I think, you know, President Trump is, to put it mildly, unconventional, I believe.

And sometimes this upsets me, but other times, because he is willing to be unconventional and what the folks in the high-tech world call a disruptor,

disruptor, he does things

that enables things to happen that you look at and you say, you know what?

This is something we ought to try.

And believe me, this is a step toward peace in the Middle East if the Pal there come when and if there's a Palestinian leadership and when there will be when, if now, a Palestinian leadership that is willing to get engaged with Israel.

And you're right,

this is a first offer, if you will.

It can be changed.

There's some things that Israel won't allow to be changed, but some things can be negotiated and the Palestinians ought to the people of Palestine, the Palestinian people ought to rise up and push their leaders to go to the table with Israel

in a process, as the Saudis and Egyptians said, under the auspices of the United States.

We can mediate and they can get something done.

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