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And we'll talk about it coming up in just a little while.

Also, Joe Lieberman's going to be with us

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Here's what you have to do.

That's outrageous.

You're expecting us us to walk away from terrorism.

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I know.

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Bill O'Reilly is also on with us.

I think I might rather talk about how we could all die.

We're also going to talk to Joe Lieberman later on in the program just about, you know, the Palestinians.

And I think they're right on this.

How dare you offer a two-state solution and then expect us to walk away from terrorism?

Who are you to judge?

Well, I just thought you wanted a two-state solution.

It might be good.

Carter Page, and an interview I did with him,

and it is out right now.

It's an amazing thing.

Sat down with him for 90 minutes and talked to him just about.

What's it like to be spied on by the government?

What's it like to have them go to the FISA court and tap your phones, tap your internet, spy on you, put microphones and cameras on you all the time without your knowledge when you didn't do anything?

It's a fascinating interview.

We'll get into that.

And today,

to call more witnesses

or not to call more witnesses.

Let me just summarize.

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It is so good to see you.

Oh, thank you for freeing me from that stew monster.

He is just Oh, he's relentless.

Relentless.

Relentless.

How you doing, Pat?

Good.

Good.

Thanks for filling in.

Stew, as always, is on his Super Bowl trip.

He goes to the Super Bowl, and

it's nothing but snorting Coke off the belly of hookers for him for two days.

He gets it out of his system, and then he comes back, and he's a completely moral guy.

Mostly.

Well,

I think he breaks down again around Memorial Day.

Around Memorial Day.

Well,

I mean, he doesn't.

Right.

You know what I mean?

You know, which

non-service member of us doesn't just break down around Memorial Day?

And there's nothing.

There are going to be people like

to do blow or something, you know, off the belly of hookers.

Because that's the way.

I think, as Stu says, that's the way Jesus would want it.

Now, I disagree with that, but

it's Stu.

So anyway, Pat,

one word in context of today,

Romney.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Meaning he may vote for witnesses.

May?

Well, I want him to, honestly.

I just want to get this out.

And as you've said several times, Lance that boil.

They're just going to be relentless if they don't have some sort of witness event happening.

I think there are two ways to look at this.

And,

you know, quite honestly, the way we look at it is the right way.

Obviously, all those dummies that disagree with us, well, you're just plain wrong.

There's two ways to look at it.

And I think the one way which everybody, including me, is looking at this, you just want it over.

You know what I mean?

You know, there is nothing to this.

And this is

John Bolton is another

steel dossier.

Proves it.

Oh,

Mueller proves it.

Oh, my gosh.

Vince, I mean, not Vince Flynn, but what's his name?

General Flynn.

It proves it.

Oh, this phone call, it proves it.

None of these things, every time they make them into a big deal, and not one of them

have moved the needle at all.

None of them are what they say it is.

Okay?

So when you...

When you're looking at John Bolton, I think conservatives generally have supported John Bolton his whole career.

We like him.

We trust him.

And I don't want to throw him under the bus.

I think he's wrong here on the way he's approached this with the book.

Yes, and the way that Democrats have treated him is so hypocritical.

I mean,

they talked about his lack of credibility

before when he was nominated for the UN position and all along the line, they've hated this guy.

And now all of a sudden, they've got to hear the truth from John Bolton.

And John Bolton's the only one that can tell us the truth.

Right.

And I don't want to play the opposite.

He's lying.

I don't think John Bolton is lying.

I don't think John Bolton has anything real to say.

Okay.

Because I know John Bolton, and I think he is a man of credibility.

I think his credibility has been destroyed by him taking a big payday from Simon Schuster to write a book.

Now, does he have anything in the book?

Here's why it should happen, in my opinion.

There's two ways to look at this.

There's nothing there.

I'm tired of this.

Let's move on.

Okay.

That's all understandable, and I feel that way.

However, and wait, there's three ways.

Also, the legal way.

The president has won his case.

No attorney.

You know, let's say your job is at stake.

Your life is at stake.

Your name is at stake.

Everything's at stake.

And the prosecution comes in with this guy who's like, no, I got Pat Gray.

He's going to testify against Glenn.

He's got a big book deal coming out in a little while.

Oh, they don't want to hear from Pat.

It's been his best friend.

He's been there for 30 years.

What does he have to say?

Okay.

And I'm like, well, geez, Pat has turned on me.

Don't worry about it.

Pat has nothing.

We can take him apart because I know Pat and I know what Pat has seen and I can tell you everything about it.

No attorney would say,

Okay, let's do that.

You'd say, No, but if it's Pat, my best friend, and he goes off and he's going to release this book, let's at least get him on the stand so I can cross-examine him because the media will run all of the book release stuff from him.

They will do fawning interviews because they want to destroy me.

No one will ask tough questions.

Well, you can do that under the auspices of the trial.

Correct.

So the way to do it is to have him testify so you can hold his feet to the fire when everyone is watching.

And you have all that information out of the way.

Right.

You're taking care of it now.

Now Pat's book is worthless because we've already heard it in the trial.

It didn't hurt me.

It didn't do anything.

So Pat can do whatever he wants, but what are you going to read in his book?

We've already heard it all.

So it destroys the book.

It destroys the book tour because there's nothing new to go over.

But if you don't do it,

when that book is released, it's a huge event and you have a fawning media that wants John Bolton to be saying bad things about the president.

So the Democrats can then say, you know what?

Let me tell you this right now.

John Bolton, did you see that interview?

I hope you didn't watch it too long because there's really nothing there.

But I know you didn't watch it, so we can spin it this way.

And that's the information we had.

And this president of the Republican Party, they're now stealing this election.

That's what will happen.

Yeah.

But no attorney, if I were Trump's attorney, I would say, end it.

End it.

You won.

Okay?

End it right now.

Push for acquittal.

Do not put another witness on.

And if you believe you've won,

what are you going to super win by keeping it going even further?

Right.

No, you're not.

Right.

But as Nancy Pelosi said, if they don't do the trial, and this is what they're going to hammer the whole year, the whole campaign year.

There was no acquittal because they didn't do a trial.

They didn't actually do a trial.

They didn't actually care about the truth.

So they just shut it all down and didn't get to the truth.

That's what we're going to hear the whole time, right up to the election.

And I just don't want

them to have that talking point.

Well, there is a way to get rid of that talking point.

And I think beside the trial, you could end the trial today.

We have something, and I wish I could come out with it today.

I mean, I can't tell you how hard I have fought internally.

Can we just do this special now?

Because I want it out before the trial, but we can't do it.

We have certain things that have to fall into place for us to be able to release this.

But I am telling you, I read the script last night, and it still has chunks in it that are not buttoned up, but we think we're getting the paperwork to prove it

because we've seen it.

We just don't have it in hand.

And as I'm looking at it and reading this, I looked at my staff last night.

I mean, I read it last night with the staff around me, and as I'm reading, it's like 40 pages.

And I said, This is the most powerful special we've ever done.

This may be the biggest story we have ever broken.

Wow.

It is, wow, it's

shocking, and it's much more.

The corruption, everything we said that was going on, it all's gone on.

But there is a deeper story to it that

is,

how can I put this without,

it is,

it is a

story that has driven the news on

a couple of presidents and

I just can't say.

It is a huge, huge story.

And it is not about this president.

It's about Barack Obama.

We found something that the Obama administration was doing

that

will destroy,

destroy the Obama administration and its legacy

to the left.

You're talking about the scandal-free Barack Obama administration?

Scandal-free.

No,

this will piss the left off

so much.

The left will be like, Excuse me,

and

we're going to expose that.

So, if they don't do this trial, believe me, what we are going to expose

next Thursday, and by the way, we're opening it up, it'll be free.

We want everybody to see it.

It's not going to be behind the paywall.

You'll be able to see it on YouTube, Facebook, and all of our platforms for free.

But watch it

because it is

you can end this trial

and begin a new trial that must be done.

And you're not talking about trying Obama.

You're talking about exposing Obama and then exposing all of the people that were involved in it.

And it's beyond corruption.

And I can't, you'll understand what I mean by that, but it is, it is corrupt, illegal, unconstitutional, but beyond corruption.

I thought this was about corruption and power.

It is about that with some.

Hunter Biden is

involved

to his neck up,

but

it is the worst that we have seen in the past from presidents,

two of which I know

went through massive trials in history for this.

And it is an affront to Congress, the Constitution, all of it.

So you want to close this down?

Great, close it down.

But they must now go back and say, how did this happen?

We spent $34 million on

a Mueller report.

The Mueller report did nothing.

Mueller report did nothing, had nothing.

This started from before he was even in office.

And now this one, how many millions of dollars in time was wasted on this one?

What was that really about?

And it is not about

just protecting Joe Biden.

It's really not.

And I can lay out the case that that is not what

That is not what Donald Trump was doing.

He knows.

He knows what was going on.

I can take you to all the things in the phone call, in the July 25th phone call, that didn't make sense.

And things that we were like, why would he say that?

Now

we know.

We found one piece and we're like, follow that.

And it connects all of it.

And the timing is

beyond, dare I use the word, perfect.

It's beyond perfect.

That's next Thursday.

Check for, you know, put it on your calendar.

Check the website.

We'll tell you exactly when.

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You do not want to miss it.

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So what do you think happens today, Stu?

Or even Pat?

I think they probably

I think they probably block the witnesses.

I mean, it looked like earlier in the week they couldn't stop it.

Now it looks like they're almost certainly going to.

I think because what, I mean, Lamar Alexander came out yesterday and he said.

I've seen enough.

I've seen enough.

There's even, no matter what John Bolton says, it's not impeachable.

Right.

So it doesn't matter.

And I like that

look at it.

I do too.

You know, but if it doesn't matter, then why not do it anyway, other than this just is dragging it on.

But I like that approach.

It doesn't matter.

Now, Romney, I don't think is doing it for the reason we think he should do it.

I think he just really thinks, well, no, wait a minute.

There might be something there that we should look into.

I don't think he's doing it politically.

I think Romney is so,

he has so self-aggrandized himself.

that he's forgotten that he represents

the people of the state of Utah.

He's representing Mitt Romney because I don't believe the people in Utah want him to

do this.

Yeah, I don't think so either.

I mean, he won.

What did Trump win by 18 points in Utah?

Yeah.

And Utah was not a state that was raw-raw Donald Trump.

They kind of held their nose because of his personal life.

They held their nose and voted for him.

But things change.

They still, I don't think, like him the way he behaves personally in the tweets and everything else.

But they have seen, like I have seen, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There are some amazing things that he is doing.

Romney still doesn't like him.

And Romney, I think, still thinks he's better than

Donald Trump and everyone else in the Senate.

I mean, I think he really truly believes, and I quite honestly, I think he's part of a problem of

trying to tell everybody that he's the the reasonable one and Mike Lee is this crazy extremist.

And I don't think that's going to fly.

I hope not.

They've done that to Mike Lee, though, for a while.

Yeah, they have.

Yeah.

I don't know how powers that be in Utah paint him as an extremist.

And it's awful.

It's wrong.

And it's not true.

It's not.

Mike Lee is the most reasonable

senator

among the thoughtful.

He's worked with Bernie Sanders on things.

When he can make a connection on the Constitution, he'll do it.

Mike Lee is, I mean, if Mike Lee was the one saying, no, we should hear witnesses, I would go with Mike Lee

because there's not really political bones in his body.

He hates that.

Cares about the Constitution.

Only cares about the Constitution.

And Mitt Romney, I think, is, I don't, I just,

there's not been a bigger disappointment.

No, Roger Ailes.

Not been a bigger disappointment than Mitt Romney.

He is just,

he's politically smarmy, I think.

He is.

So good luck with that.

Here's Mitt Romney in Utah underwater in the polls.

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Hello and welcome to the program.

I want to talk to you a little bit about the coronavirus.

Something isn't right on this.

It's just something's not right.

And here's why I say this.

I want to believe that the Chinese have learned their lessons from the past.

And the avian flu and

all the flus past, what was the other one?

SARS.

Yeah, SARS that the world chastised them.

And those communists went, you know what?

We should be more open with information.

Okay.

Now that's possible.

Yeah, maybe, but

never happens.

Never happens.

It's never happened.

Even during the period called Glasnos, which meant openness, didn't it?

Isn't that what it meant?

Openness.

In the period of Glasnos in the former Soviet Union, this is at the end when, you know, hey, you know what?

We want to be less communist and more like you guys.

We're going to be open.

Chernobyl goes off.

We can see the cloud.

We can measure the radiation.

And they're like, what?

No, that's probably coming from your microwave oven.

I mean, it was insane.

All right.

So maybe they've changed,

but probably not.

Now, the reason why we're not so freaked out right now, and I think that's a good thing, is that we are believing the numbers given to us by the Chinese to the WHO.

We don't really know what's happening.

We don't have any idea.

But, Pat, what are the latest totals?

I know it's what, just over 200 worldwide that have died?

Yeah.

And some

infection.

It's something like 8,500 infected.

Okay.

That was the last number I heard, but it goes up quickly

and exponentially.

Yes.

Okay, so 8,500 are infected.

200 are dead.

Now, some of those numbers are coming from the West, but most of those numbers are in

China.

Now, everyone's saying,

and look, I've done my research on the flu and the pandemic for years, for two decades, for 20 years I've been studying this stuff because scientists have said another one is coming.

Okay.

It's only a matter of time.

So I've gone back through my notes and I've looked at the stuff that we have done before.

We've looked at the science.

We've done all of our work.

And what bothers me is this one seems to have all of the earmarks of the one that everyone's been saying in the scientific world.

It's going to look like this.

It's going to jump from an animal and an animal that we haven't really had a problem with before.

And it's going to be highly infectious.

It's going to mutate quickly.

It'll probably start someplace in China,

and it will start, and we won't even know that you're infected,

and you're still spreading this disease, which is not done in flus.

But that's what the really bad one will look like.

Okay, that looks like this one.

It has every one of those earmarks.

Right.

Every one of them.

It's going to be more contagious than SARS.

It is.

And you're just going to have to quarantine everybody.

You're just going to have to stop everything.

Okay, now let's just.

Nobody in the world is freaking out.

Okay.

And you shouldn't freak out.

We don't know.

But can we just tie some things together?

First of all,

and I'm not sure of the actual carriers, but I know it was like KLM.

I know British Airways, Lufthansa, big airlines all across Europe have stopped all transportation in and out of China.

They're not flying from Europe or to Europe anymore.

We are.

Russia shut its border, the entire Chinese border.

You ain't coming into Russia.

Hong Kong.

They built this brand new, beautiful condominium complex in Hong Kong, and it wasn't open yet for sale.

The Chinese government came in and said, we're going to put infected people in that building in isolation.

And the Hong Kong people thought, no, you're not.

And so the Hong Kong people got, went in the streets and they burned the entire complex to the ground.

Okay.

So, wait a minute.

No, I had no shit.

Yeah, China doesn't have any space for the 8,500 people.

They got to ship them to a brand new condominium complex in Hong Kong.

And the people are like, no, you're not, and they burn it to the ground.

All schools, all schools have been shut indefinitely, and over 70 million people, 70 million people

are now quarantined in China.

For something that has caused 200 deaths and has 8,500 people sick?

I mean, there are other diseases that are going on right now that have 200 dead and 10,000 people infected with it.

Imagine our government saying, there's something going on right now, and we just want to get a handle on it.

So we're closing Los Angeles, Chicago, no one in or out.

Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, Miami.

Hell, let's just close the entire eastern seaboard.

All right?

Anything near I-95, shut down.

I-95, no buses, no trains, no planes, nothing.

Would we be saying,

what are you not telling us?

How bad is this?

Yeah.

Is what you'd be saying.

You'd be saying that.

Because you'd cripple the economy.

Right.

Apple, Intel, all of these companies, major companies, are thinking of suspending operations in China.

We're now talking about the ports.

The ports are now closing around the world from China.

Jesus.

Really?

For something that's killed 200 people?

Something just doesn't seem right.

Unless China is just like, we are going to show everybody you get a sniffle and you will never spread it to another person.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Or maybe they're trying out, can we keep people in cities?

And they're trying out all their new technology.

Possibly.

They're either being super medical and to hell with the economy,

which no way, no way.

We could have a plague here, and there would be reasonable conversations to have.

If you shut this down, you will destroy the economy of America, and it will take us five years, and we may never recapture our position.

You must do everything you can to keep things open.

Yeah.

What's happening?

It does sound like they're lying, doesn't it?

It does.

And they've got a nice history of lying.

So

the Chinese?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shut up.

I know it's hard to believe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Usually communist governments are so open.

And honest.

Well, North Korea.

Oh, forthright.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anything goes wrong, they tell everybody about it.

Hey, look out, we might have a problem here.

We just wanted you to know.

So, does this bother you at all?

Have you thought of, I mean, I had a conversation with my family last night.

I said, look, this is not going to happen.

It's not going to happen.

But let's just all mentally prepare.

This is what our line is going to be.

If it looks like they're starting to cordon off areas,

this is what our family is going to do.

I want you to call the schools and find out.

Our kids go to an international school.

So has any of the parents, anybody been in China in the last couple of months?

If so, we want to know about it.

I don't need to know the names, but I want to know about it.

You know, taking these precautions.

Is anybody doing that?

I don't think America is really paying attention to this.

And that's really prudent because we only have what?

We had the first person-to-person

infection in, was it Chicago?

I think where

the wife came home from Wuhan and her husband got infected.

That's the first time that's happened here.

So I think that's why, you know, there's only a few people infected that we are absolutely sure about.

But if there were 1,000 people infected in the U.S., I think people would really start to worry about it.

A thousand people.

The problem.

It happened overnight.

The problem with this is the average flu, and think how common the flu is.

The average flu has a,

it's called an R-naught rating, which means how

easy it is to pass.

For instance, smallpox has an R-naught rating of 16 to 18.

20 is the top, and it means that one person affected will infect 16 to 18 other people.

Okay.

The flu, the regular flu, is 1.1.

So you have the flu, you're going to give it to just over one other person.

All right.

The Spanish flu, the one that was the pandemic of 1918,

was not infectious until you started to show symptoms.

That's a big one.

And it only had an R-naught rating of 2.4.

This one, they believe, has an R0 rating of 3.8.

Okay, so it's almost double that of the Spanish flu.

And here's the bigger problem.

You are infectious the minute you meet someone that has it, even if they show no symptoms, it can jump to you.

And the incubation period is anywhere between five and 14 days.

And in those five and 14 days, you can be spreading it, but you have no symptoms.

And the way it spreads,

handshakes, right?

And then, like, if I shake shake your hand and you have it, and then I touch my eyes, it goes through the eyes, the nose, the mouth.

Correct.

So it's not even airborne.

It's not airborne.

So anybody you shake hands with.

Or if you get sneezed on, there's another problem.

Yeah, but that's, but that's normal.

That's the normal way flu.

People are like, don't, don't, stay away from me.

I got the flu.

You're not contagious before you show symptoms.

This one is.

Yeah.

So everyone you meet,

everyone you're around,

okay, if they have it, they don't even know they have it.

And so this one, remember, the Spanish flu killed 50 million people worldwide.

675,000 here in America.

Can you imagine something killing 675,000 Americans?

I mean,

to put it into context, the Spanish flu,

which only infected a third of the world

and only killed 10%

of that third.

That killed more people than World War I

and World War II combined.

A flu.

And it did it in 18 months.

That's what we're concerned about.

And quite honestly,

you know, here's one time I'm saying maybe we should pay attention to Europe.

If Europe is grounding their planes, why isn't the United States of America?

We should be grounding our planes when it comes to China?

Sorry, until we know what we're dealing with, no planes in, no planes out.

So this is a great note.

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It comes out of Milwaukee.

Listen to this.

Dr.

John Cox knew as soon as he heard the baby's cry that he had hurt his one-month-old adopted daughter.

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So, Lamar Alexander, GOP senator, has come out and said he is not for hearing any more witnesses.

He's ready to move on.

That's a critical vote.

You know, we have Romney and the others.

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Bill O'Reilly, today is the day that we're going to either see this thing pretty much wrap up

or

drag on for another couple of weeks.

What is your take on what the Senate is going to do today when they vote on witnesses?

Well, first of all, I'm sitting here by the pool in South Florida.

Shut up.

Yeah.

Shut up.

Some of us work for that.

I know that.

But

some of us are so intelligent that we can't

figure out ways

of getting it to pool.

Anyway, I think it's a fait accompli, to use use a Latin phrase,

that the Republicans will say, no, no, mas.

You know, a Roberto Durand verdict is on the horizon, no mas.

And McConnell, a pretty shrewd dude, I love that dude thing.

And he and Alexander are very close friends.

And he basically leaned on old Lamar and said, look, you all know this is how it's going to turn out.

Why put the party and the the country through this for another week or two?

And Lamar said, all right.

And that leaves Romney and Collins and Murkowski.

I think the deal has been struck with Murkowski that she is going to vote against witnesses.

McConnell had a 20-minute private meeting with her.

That's unheard of for him.

He never does that.

And I'm sure she acceded to his wishes because she wants to keep her seat.

in Alaska.

Collins, they don't have any control over her.

It means an interesting place.

But now the question is: do you two Republicans want to go against all the others and be pariahs in the party?

And I'm probably going to predict no.

It'll be a sweep again.

Romney.

I don't think Romney, you know, Romney's a shrewd guy.

Is he?

Is that why he's upside down

in his polls in Utah?

Yeah, I did that on billorilly.com this week.

But

Romney hates Trump so much that that's why he's doing it.

But now I think you can back off.

Well, I would be

that would I would find that interesting.

So you think that it could just go down the party lines.

Is there anyone on the Democrat side that is going to say, no, let's just move on?

You know, Manchin would if it were close.

But if all the Dems know it's,

you know, going to go the Republicans' way, does Manchin want to buck Schumer?

So, you know, these are all personal relationships, lots of implied threats.

Pelosi does it all the time, and Schumer does it.

So I don't know what kind of heat they're putting on, but Manchin doesn't want this.

So he's one.

I don't think,

what's her name out in California?

Feinstein.

She doesn't want this.

Although, you know, it's hard for her to stay awake during the proceedings.

She's 88 years old.

So, you know, I'm not worried in the sense that I think it's going to end and then it'll be.

The real story now is: what is President Trump going to do with it?

Okay, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Before we get to that, I want to ask you a couple of other questions.

Sure.

I think legally and for

the president's

case, the best thing to do is when you've won the case, move on, shut it down.

Now, Now, let me talk to you about politically.

Politically, you are leaving.

It's like when you don't finish your antibiotics.

You know, they say, make sure you take the whole 12 days, even though in a few days you're going to feel better.

Don't save the rest because that bug is going to come back because the bugs, you feel better.

But the bugs that resisted a little bit of this, that you could kill just by finishing the whole flight, are going to come back and bite you in the butt.

And that's why they say, finish your antibiotics.

And I feel like this is finish the antibiotics.

John Bolton doesn't have anything that is impeachable.

John Bolton is not going to come in and say, yeah, the whole thing, you know, Democrats were right.

He just is not going to say that because he doesn't have that.

He's got a book that's coming out.

The Democrats are going to immediately say, this whole thing was a sham.

They wouldn't even listen to it.

And John Bolton had all the secrets.

So when his book comes out, he will be able to go from media place to media place, media place, and they're not going to push back because they want his story to be worse than it actually is.

If you see the transcripts of his book,

there's nothing there.

But they will make it into something and they will use this against Trump and against the GOP saying, see, look how unfair they were.

They just swept this whole thing under the rug.

Politically speaking, isn't it better to say, bring John Bolton on, bring him on, and you know what?

Do the whistleblower two and spend another week just on that?

That's the longest question in the history of Western civilization.

I'll go back on the antibiotics.

Can I take all my shows?

Okay.

All right.

No,

it isn't worth dragging it out.

Why?

Because it's harmful to the country, debilitating to we the people,

and the Republicans believe they're way ahead now in the court of public opinion.

So they don't need to be more ahead.

They're way ahead.

So they want to get rid of it, and they will.

Now, as for Bolton, Trump

is pretty predictable.

I mean, I always go back to the United States of Trump, the best book ever written about the president, but very predictable guy.

Next to the bottom of the book.

While some people would say, yeah, I'm going to leave it alone and I'm not going to, you know, I won and I'm going to declare victory and walk away.

I don't think he's going to do that.

I think he's going to run around

the country at rallies and throw this right back in the Democrats' face.

Now, John Bolton

is going to have problems going forward.

Number one, they're going to hold his book up.

And they're going to hold it up as long as they can possibly hold it up because there's national security stuff, top secret stuff in the book, according to the National Security Council.

So you're going to hold Simon Schuster, thought it was being cute by linking all this to the New York Times.

Now Simon Schuster's, yeah, everybody knows about the book, but it might not come out for a few months.

And they don't want that.

The second thing is that Bolton, it's going to be harder for him to go on The The View and to go on Morning Joe and all of these real far-left programs because they despise him.

Yes.

But not as much,

not as enemy of my enemy as my friend.

Still, without the book in print, he doesn't do them a lot of good because it's a one-trick pony.

Yeah, he wanted to hold up aid, so to get dirt on Trump.

What else is there?

There's nothing else.

That's the accusation.

So I don't see this really

going on much longer in the impeachment realm.

I don't see Ukraine going on much longer.

Although it'll be fascinating to see how Trump weaves it in to, I'm the greatest guy, the Democrats are going to hurt you, which is going to be his campaign theme.

All right.

So let's go into

what is happening next.

Today, they're going to vote on it.

Then, if they say no to witnesses, then they will move to acquit,

I would imagine.

And then we have Iowa on Monday.

Then we have the State of the Union on Tuesday, which is this man standing in that chamber talking to those people.

It

should be wildly entertaining, to say the least.

We'll come back with Bill O'Reilly in one minute.

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So, Bill,

break down what happens from here.

Assuming Assuming that they vote to

have no more witnesses, then what happens from there?

I would assume that vote will be on Monday.

The witness vote?

Yeah, no.

No.

The witness vote will be today.

Today, right.

And then acquittal.

And then they'll vote to acquit on Monday.

That's what I think will happen.

Because they're tired and cranky, and they want to watch the Super Bowl stuff and all of that.

But I could be wrong on the timeline.

But the conclusion is no witnesses, not guilty.

Let's go into the campaign.

And it's also because everybody's tired and cranky after the Super Bowl.

It is also

the day of the Iowa election.

It has less.

Republicans want to obscure that.

So that's why I think McConnell will call the vote to acquit on Monday to obscure the Iowa vote.

You know,

that's what they do.

Both parties do it.

So, you know,

how do you see the vote coming down

in Iowa?

No, no, no.

The vote to acquit.

Oh,

you know, I don't think any Republicans will vote to convict him.

Right.

So that's 53.

Maybe Manchin and maybe one or two others that come over, maybe.

So let's say 54 to 46.

You are a historian.

So put yourself out 50 years from now.

How is this going to be remembered?

It won't be.

It'll be like Andrew Johnson.

Nobody remembers what happened there or why it happened.

It's not going to be remembered because

the definition of Donald Trump, the president, will come in his second term.

And

if he wins a second term, everything changes as far as Trump and history.

If he gets beaten,

then Trump will be a very,

it'll be a failed presidency.

The historians go, oh, well,

he didn't, you know, he might have done good for the economy, but he wasn't, you know,

astute enough to win re-election.

And he had all this on his sheet, so he's really not a good president.

That's what's going to happen.

But if he wins again,

then Trump's got, and he can take back the house.

That's the big thing.

Then Trump's got a clear playing field for four years.

And there's going to be a lot of payback, believe me.

Trump doesn't forget.

And that's why it's going to be interesting to see in the state of the union.

Is he going to go into full campaign mode in the state of the union?

I think he will.

I do too.

I think he's going to use that in full campaign mode.

I think he wants this to be.

He wants to be acquitted by Monday.

So Tuesday, every eye is on him addressing those people.

And I think

he will use it to his advantage.

McConnell's going to tell him, look,

I'm going to do what you want because McConnell has done exactly what Donald Trump has wanted.

All right.

I'm going to do what you want.

I'm going to fast track this.

We're going to get this done.

And then

you got the floor on Tuesday night, and the whole world is going to be watching you.

Be a little presidential, please.

You know,

Nancy Pelosi is going to be sitting behind you.

Don't hit her with a pie.

All right.

Don't go na-na-na-na-na.

Don't do that.

McConnell will tell him that.

You are the guy who can tell the truth about the president,

and the only one that I know that still can be a friend of his.

I mean, you say things that are far more critical of the president that, I mean, I get in trouble anytime I say anything.

You can say, yeah, you know, and you don't seem to get in trouble for it.

So tell me the odds, Bill O'Reilly, of Donald Trump understanding,

please be at least a little presidential in the way that the rest of the world would understand that and the odds of him doing it.

All right.

To answer that question, you have to understand

who is going to write the speech.

And that is going to be a man named Stephen Miller.

Miller is trusted by Trump, one of the few people on the face of the earth.

Trump trusts Miller.

Miller is very smart.

Miller will side with McConnell

and say to him, Mr.

President, President, sir,

you can use this as a campaign thing.

We know that that is going to be something that you will do no matter what, because you're not going to be able to stop that.

But let's keep the gloating word of the day, G-L-O-A-T-I-N-G, to a minimum.

I don't know if he can do it.

I don't know if he's capable.

He can do it.

Okay.

He can do it.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

Because remember, remember, Miller is going to write the words on the page.

Now, Trump, he's not

Warren Harding.

I mean, he's not going to read what's written for him.

Trump goes in and Trump changes

what he wants to change.

He's like Reagan.

That's what Reagan did.

But

he also doesn't even change it.

There are times when he's reading his script and he's like...

Me a lad live.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But not at the State of the Union.

Okay.

He doesn't do that at the State of the Union.

He's already given, all right, three addresses.

This will be the fourth.

And he hasn't done that in the State of the Union.

He stayed on script because he understands the formality of it.

There's a formality where there isn't in his rally.

So his rallies, that's entertainment.

People are going there to be entertained.

They want him to throw a pie at Nancy Pelosi if she would ever be at the rally, which he wouldn't.

But in the State of the Union, even his most ardent supporters are hoping that he brings some decorum to his remarks.

Now, that doesn't mean he can't slam the opposition.

I would.

I'd get up there and say, hey, this election is the most important in our lifetimes.

You may not like me.

I'd use those words, but do you want them?

And then he'll get booed.

So the Democrats and the State of the Union will boo that.

And then I would look because you got to anticipate that'll happen.

And I'd say, you can boo all you want, but your socialistic policies would wreck this economy.

And especially, especially if.

And then the Republicans, wait, you say that, and then the Republicans go,

yay!

Okay?

So Miller knows all this.

Miller, you know, he's so smart, and nobody knows who he is.

Nobody knows who he is.

But he knows all this, and he'll explain it to Trump.

And I think Trump will go by the McConnell-Miller nexus, the guidance that they provide.

Of course, I could be wrong, but I can't remember the last time I was.

Please remind me if you guys do.

We have our research team working on it now, Bill.

Okay.

Yeah, so there's 10 people working around the clock.

So far, we haven't overturned.

We haven't found a single thing under a rock.

And

we appreciate that.

I will tell you that

just speaking as a human, I think it would be really hard not to gloat.

And he's a good gloater as it is, but it'd be really hard not to gloat.

He's gone through this now for four years.

They have thrown

everything at him.

Yeah.

He has plenty of other ways to do it.

Yep.

All right.

And this comes, of course, right the day after.

Monday is the Iowa primaries.

So the caucus happens on Monday.

We'll go there next.

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It's the Glenbeck program.

Bill, before we go to Iowa, there's a new report that shows the evening news spin on the impeachment hearings.

They looked at all of the evening news programs.

They found their news 100% negative on Donald Trump's defense, 95% positive for Democrats,

absolutely humanly impossible, impossible if you're trying to be at all fair.

But they're not.

Yes, right.

Everybody knows that.

Right.

I did the story last night on the No Spin News on billorilly.com.

And I basically looked at the audience and I said, I'm sorry to bore you because I know you know this already, that if you watch an American television news network for news, you're not going to get the news anymore.

That's not what they're in business to do.

They're in business to promote an ideology, number one,

and number two, to elect candidates that back up what ideology they want.

That's what the industry is now.

So now,

but with that being said, there was another poll taken by people who read, or of people who read the New York Times.

People who read the New York Times, when they heard the New York Times endorse Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar, the people who read the paper,

5% of those people moved to Joe Biden.

Okay?

So even their own readership is like, okay, I don't trust these people.

Is that accurate to say?

What would you take from that?

I think so.

Listen, I think that Americans, no matter how nutty they may be politically on both the right and the left, all right, essentially want an honest presentation.

Correct.

I mean, I think 90% of them want honesty, even if they don't like to hear it.

All right.

Even if they, that's why I have been so successful.

and all the research on me shows that.

So, you may not like me, all right, and I understand that,

but you'll get a fair play when you listen to me, analyze the news.

You just said, if Trump, Trump does something dopey, I'm going to tell you.

But

what has happened now in America is a lot of people don't seek the truth anymore, they don't care about it,

they want an outcome,

all right.

So, the Me Too people want males to be crushed.

That's the outcome they want.

They don't want fairness.

They're not looking for facts.

And that's what you're getting in politics.

So the outcome that the left wants is Trump out of office.

How you get him out of office doesn't really matter to them.

But the declining audiences at network news have to be.

I mean, look at CBS evening news.

My God, it's a collapse.

And CNN, collapse.

So, you know, that's the reality in the country we live in right now.

All right.

You're still standing that Joe Biden is going to take the caucus?

Now you're distorting me.

Well, that's what I do.

I'm part of the mainstream media now.

Yeah.

You know, you're a guy by the pool.

I'm, you know,

I'm here to distort.

Yeah, if you do it again, I'm taking your cowboy boots away.

All right.

Now, I said Biden's going to win the nomination, but I have been steadfast in saying

Iowa is so crazy that nobody can predict it.

And here's why it's so crazy.

150,000 people vote out of a state of about three and a half million.

Okay.

The 150,000 who vote, they don't go to the polls back.

They go to a little schoolhouse or a little VFW hall or whatever it may be and they stand around.

And they're like, oh, I like Biden.

No, I like Bernie.

No, I like Buddha, Judge.

And then at the end of an hour,

they say, okay, let's write this down who you want.

Very informal, very undisciplined.

And only the real true believers participate, not the folks.

And it was.

This is on the right, too.

Remember, Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucus last time around.

Right.

What's really interesting is it's not all like that.

I went to a couple of high schools for the caucus, and they would have the, you know, for instance, next Monday, they'll have the Bernie people here.

They'll have the Elizabeth Warren people in this room, and you can go listen to them, and they're

bargaining for your vote, and they'll say, Look, Warren doesn't have a chance.

I know you really like Warren, but she doesn't have a chance.

Throw in with Bernie because he could take this, and then you'll get your socialist utopia.

And so it's not going in and making a personal decision.

It is the party

very, very active

going in, and the ones who make the most compelling strategic argument, I think, are the ones that usually come out.

Yeah, but there's a lot of ideology involved in it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, look, if I had to put Bunny down now,

on the Iowa caucus,

I would say Sanders wins.

And Biden does pretty well.

Biden's running around a little bus.

Am I in Iowa or I am in

Nebraska?

He goes in the bus.

He's yelling at people out the window.

And Buddha judges running around too.

Remember that

Bernie and Warren and Klobuchar, they've been holed up in the Senate.

They couldn't get to Iowa.

And meantime, little Pete is knocking on your door.

He's sliding down your chimney.

And he's a charming guy.

So he'll do okay.

So I would say it's Sanders, Biden, Booty Judge, one, two, three.

Which makes the State of the Union address even easier when he, because Trump could make this about capitalism versus socialism.

I think Trump will go light on the individuals and heavy on the ideology.

Yeah, like I just said, you may not like me, but do you want these people taking the station wagon out of your garage?

Because that's what they're going to do.

They're going to take all your stuff.

They want to run your life in every way, shape, and form.

And he'll hit the guns.

He'll hit a whole bunch of stuff in the State of the Union.

All right.

I'm pro-life.

I'm pro-Second Amendment.

I'm this.

I'm that.

And look at these other people.

They're going to take everything you have.

All right.

Everything you have.

And

you'd be foolish, Trump, not use the state of the union to draw that contract.

Meantime, Bernie gets Iowa, and then he zips into New Hampshire the next week, where he's a favorite son.

Yeah.

All right, so Warren's campaign has collapsed.

A lot of her people come over to Bernie, and then it'll look bad for Biden.

And believe me, all the cable, TV, left-wing journalists will scream Bernie, Bernie, Bernie.

Okay, because they don't want Biden.

They think Biden is going to not make it to the finish line.

Where they, Podesta and the wise guys in the Democratic Party, they don't want Bernie Sanders at all.

But the media favors Sanders over Biden.

And if Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire, which he almost certainly is going to, and then he wins in Nevada, where he's performing pretty well, he's got pretty serious momentum by the time you get to South Carolina.

Can anybody stop him if he wins those first three?

Oh, yeah.

You think so?

Number one, I don't think he's going to win Nevada.

I think the Biden people are going to really throw a lot of stuff into Nevada.

And the unions...

Unions are very strong.

Yeah.

Right.

They're going to go with Biden.

But so is Pot.

And then

Biden will wipe out Bernie in South Carolina because African Americans are a big part of that electorate on the Democratic side.

Correct.

And they don't like Bernie.

See, Bernie doesn't compute with the minority communities hispanics or african-americans fascinating because they don't like him um

and i did a big thing on bernie and i don't know whether you guys know it or not but he has made millions of dollars he and his wife right

off the public doll yeah hunter biden

he's jane sanders is hunter biden yeah

although they didn't use overseas it was here i'll give you one example Jane Biden was appointed president of Burlington College.

200 students, 200 students ran the college into bankruptcy.

And part of the reason was she awarded her daughter a $500,000 woodworking contract from the college.

It's got 200 students.

So when do you get to the ridiculous part?

Here's the ridiculous part.

The press has ignored it.

They know it because Peter Schweitzer's book outlines it.

The press has not even mentioned it.

Even the conservative press, the Fox News people,

haven't even mentioned it.

When I did this this week on the No Spin News, all right, I got calls, what?

What?

How did you get that?

I go, it's public record.

Yeah.

The guy has made $5 million.

He's got three homes and he's never had a private job.

He's never in a private sector, not even Wendy's.

They don't.

I don't think the left cares.

As long as you're making money, they don't.

As long as you're making money and you're towing the line and telling everybody that, you know, there has to be somebody to oversee against all the corruption of all the other people, you're fine.

That's true, but there's not enough far-left nuts to put Bernie Sanders

into the nomination.

Are you concerned at all about Wisconsin and Bernie Sanders, his people?

I mean, we've had two people exposed by Project Veritas

that are saying they're going to burn things down.

They're going to be training.

They're waiting for a revolution.

They want one.

The Democrats aren't going to do this to them again.

Wait until we get Milwaukee.

They were not fired.

by the Sanders campaign, and they occupy the same position that the guy who went to Virginia to shoot all of the Republicans on the the baseball diamond held.

These people are serious.

Nobody's paying attention to it.

How do you feel Wisconsin's going to go if

the Democrats are seen by those guys as maneuvering to hurt Bernie Sanders?

I think Trump has a very good chance to take Wisconsin.

I do too.

I think he's got...

It's more problematic for him in Pennsylvania.

All right.

But Wisconsin and Michigan, the working people have benefited greatly from the Trump economy in both states.

So I think that he's got a good shot to take those again.

He's got a good shot.

Why is Pennsylvania a problem for him?

Because if it's Biden, as I think it will be, the African-American vote that stayed home last time around, they didn't like Hillary, will come out for Biden

because Barack Obama will campaign for Biden.

It's a little off topic.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Finish.

And

that's the difference.

Okay.

So, if Philadelphia, if African-American vote comes out big for Biden,

that is going to, that could put him over the top there.

This is a little off-topic, but before you go, I got to find out

how you feel about big gay ice cream.

Do you love it?

Big gay ice cream.

Oh,

you haven't seen the Michael Bloomberg ad?

No.

Yeah, it's his favorite.

So I guess you've never tried it.

You've got to try it.

He says it's the best.

Wait a minute.

So Bloomberg is telling people in an ad that he likes ice cream.

No, he likes big gay ice cream.

Ice cream.

And it's very, very authentic.

He takes a spoon.

He's like, hey, where's my ice cream?

Somebody hands him this container of big gay ice cream, and he takes one bite of it, and he's like,

big gay, it's the best ice cream ever.

So I didn't know if you had had it.

You've never tried it.

I've never tried it.

All right.

Okay.

Well, man.

Why is that?

Because you hate?

But remember, this is a man who doesn't know how to pet a dog.

He missed the dog's head.

I was petting him with my tire.

What?

Right.

All right.

I don't know how you missed the dog's head, but he did.

But anyway, you got short arms, I guess.

When Bloomberg was mayor of New York, I want everybody to remember you couldn't drink Dr.

Pepper.

No, I know.

A federal agent come to your house and compensate you, Dr.

Pepper.

He was counting your salaries.

You couldn't have the ball taker.

I mean, the guy was following you around.

Get out of here.

Bill O'Reilly, get out of here.

I'm going to tell you that.

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Hey, the Palestinians just don't seem to think it's reasonable to give up,

you know, terrorism for their own state.

Joe Lieberman is going to be joining us on that.

Carter Page, I did an interview with him a few days ago, I think about a week ago.

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Yeah.

And he's been a friend of mine for a very long time.

And I was really, really harsh

on him when the last impeachment happened with Clinton.

And I think I actually have to apologize to him today

on that because I see things in a different light now.

And

it's going to be an interesting conversation.

But I don't have him on for that.

I have him on because I want to talk to him about the

peace plan.

Nobody's talking about this.

And maybe it's because,

you know, the Palestinians are not going to do it.

But they've been offered a two-state solution.

They've been offered everything they want, plus all kinds of money and aid and everything else.

The world stands ready to do it.

Double the amount of territory they have in the West Bank, yeah.

And like the prince of Saudi Arabia is more pro-Israel than the Democratic candidates.

It's crazy.

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It's Friday.

Today, they're going to vote on: are there going to be any witnesses?

What does this mean?

What senators are going to do what?

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the big news that is not really reported anywhere, and I think is so important,

is the Middle East peace plan that was proposed this week.

The Palestinians were given almost everything, almost everything they've ever asked for, and then some.

And they're not interested.

They don't even want to come to the table.

Beyond that, if you listen to the press and you listen to the Democrats that are on stage now, and you compare what they're saying now compared to what the prince of Saudi Arabia, who took a guy and put him into a blender,

he's for this peace plan.

He's he's and the and the president of Egypt as well.

They are both more pro-Israeli peace plan than the Democrats are.

We talked to Joe Lieberman to get his point of view in one minute.

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And then I realized, wow,

Joe and I have been friends for a very long time, and I treated him,

and I've never said this before, because this is pretty new.

Is Joe on the phone?

Joe?

Yes.

Hi.

Good morning, Glenn.

It's great to hear your voice.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Let Let me start here.

I was very, very hard on you during the impeachment of Clinton, and you know that.

I was really very hard on you.

And I have to apologize to you because

I think you were right in watching Dershowitz, and I don't buy all of his stuff, but in watching Dershowitz, if it's not a political crime, if it's a crime, especially the one he committed, which was perjury about his marriage, I was so dead set on, you can't have somebody committing perjury who's the president.

But if we cross these lines, as I understand now from Dershowitz, we become a parliamentary system where it can really easily become a vote of no confidence, and then the president doesn't mean anything.

Was that the way you looked at it at all?

Yeah,

first off, you don't have to apologize.

I knew you would say that.

Go back decades, decades, and we had a disagreement, but

you're a big man in many ways.

And one is that

we do look back.

I grant you total forgiveness.

Thank you.

Really?

Not at all.

You're making a good point.

I tell you, I spent a lot of time during the Clinton impeachment trial

going back and looking at what the intention

was of the great men who wrote our Constitution about impeachment.

And it seemed to me that they were setting a very high bar for taking the president out of office.

And the reason is what has been discussed by Derschwitz and others, which is the centerpiece of the system,

the new country they were creating, was elections.

You have to have consent of the governed.

for those who govern.

And you would only let Congress intervene in that when it was an extreme situation, really that the country, I ended up feeling that the country would be in danger if a particular president was kept in office.

And of course this was before the 25th Amendment, which came along a lot later, that set up a procedure for removing a president from office for physical or mental incapability.

So that's why they required two-thirds vote in the Senate.

And, you know, I felt, and I said it then, that President Clinton's behavior was morally reprehensible.

And it wasn't just morally reprehensible, but it had an effect on the country because

a leader, I learned growing up, and I learned it a lot from, you know, from the Bible, that

a leader is actually held to a higher standard than average people because the impact of immorality or wrongdoing is greater.

So long story short, I felt he had done something terribly wrong,

but it hadn't reached the threshold for impeachment.

And I find this running ⁇ this is a very different fact situation, the whole business about Ukraine as opposed to Clinton-Lewinsky.

But in the end, it's the same test.

And I think it's probably going to come now to

what I would call a reasonable and just conclusion, or let's put it this way, a conclusion that if Madison and Hamilton were here alive today, they would say this is what we intended.

How would you vote today if you were sitting there?

I probably vote

for witnesses just because,

and of course, I'm being a little naive in about what I'm about to say.

I know there was some fear that if you had witnesses, it would be 15, 17 witnesses.

The impeachment trial would go on for weeks and months.

But in the good old days, we wouldn't have negotiated a compromise across party lines.

As we did, incidentally, on the rules for the Clinton impeachment trial where they were adopted 100 to nothing here, it was a straight party line vote.

And then, you know, I've hesitated to say this because I'm not on the field anymore, so I haven't said how I would vote.

But

let me, we're getting because I wanted to hear all the evidence, but let me just say that I thought Lamar Alexander's statement last night, although he disagreed with what I just said about hearing witnesses,

was right, which is what the call, from all that I know now, the call that President Trump made with President Zelensky of Ukraine was inappropriate, was wrong, it shouldn't have been done.

But did it reach the point where we can say nine months before an election, I want to come back to that point, that he represents, if he keeps him in office, he represents a danger to the country?

I don't think so.

I think it's up to, leave it to the people in November.

In other words, the impeachment

as our framers intended, I believe, was not meant to be punitive, to punish you either criminally or by taking you out of office.

It was meant to protect the country until the next election.

And the closer it is to an election, the higher the threshold for

convicting somebody, president, and removing him from office.

So I think it's coming to a fair conclusion.

Hopefully we can get back to governing.

If not, we can go on to the election, and the people will decide.

Right.

Let me switch subjects.

Benjamin Etan Yahoo was in the Oval Office this week.

They had a big announcement.

I mean, I'm not a dummy.

This helped Benjamin Netanyahu, I'm sure, in his fight back home.

He's in some trouble.

So I know that this is, you know,

a lot of this is political.

However, the

peace plan that was given, and honestly, the words of President Trump to the Palestinians at that press conference was, I thought, astounding.

And

everything a reasonable group of people should at least sit down and consider.

But it was rejected right out of hand.

And no one in the press is...

They're barely even reporting this.

What are your thoughts on this?

No, I totally agree with you in your introductory statement and what you said just now, Glenn.

I mean, I think there was politics, but I would put it this way.

The politics may have been more in the timing of the announcement.

The politics wasn't in the substance.

I thought this was the result of real

effort and persistence

directed by President Trump, but really carried out by Jared Kushner and the others who worked in the administration for it.

Kushner is being mocked by the press.

I saw an interview with him and I said, well, what makes you an expert?

And he said, well, I mean, you know, I've been working on this a long time.

Just in the last year, I've read probably 25 different books on the different, you know, peace process.

And the headline was, oh, he thinks he can read 25 books and be an expert.

I mean, it's just.

Well, that's nasty.

I give him a lot of credit for what he did.

Talked to a lot of people in the Middle East, including

some of the Palestinians.

And this is a total new beginning.

And I think it's hopeful.

And really, this peace plan offers, in other words,

everybody was trying for the last well, since the Oslo Agreement in 19 I think it was 93,

everybody was trying to fit within that format totally, and nothing was happening.

And here again, all the efforts that President Trump, Kushner were making with the Palestinians were going nowhere.

So they simply decided we're going to begin a new conversation.

And they did.

It gives

Israel security and a lot of what it wanted.

But it honestly, as you've said, think about it, it gives the Palestinians a state that's about twice as large as the territory they now govern and a capital in East Jerusalem, which they've wanted, and a promise of $50 billion.

It's unbelievable.

It's going to improve the life of their people.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry.

No, no, no.

I'm sorry to interrupt you.

It's staggering, I think, how good this is at the first initial offer.

And there's no interest.

No interest by the current Palestinian leadership,

which has proven.

I went during my time in the Senate over and over again, just about every time I visited Israel, I went to Ramallah to see President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority.

Nice man, pleasant to be with, good to talk to, but he has proven himself incapable of being a leader who will take the risks for peace and prosperity for his own people.

But Glenn, you pointed a few moments ago to the really significant difference in response to the really significant differences in this Trump Middle East peace plan, which is the response of the Arab world.

Oh, my gosh.

These are the people that lined up against Israel.

They lined up against them.

They're all, they are, and correct me if I'm wrong, Joe, they are more pro-Israel, at least sounding, today,

than the Democratic candidates that are running for president.

Well, I can't say every candidate, but some candidates, Democratic candidates, you're absolutely right.

And, you know, there you had in that room, I was there in the East Room at the White House on Tuesday, you had the ambassadors from the United Arab Emirates.

big important country ally of ours from Oman and Bahrain and then the two giants really in the Arab world Saudi Arabia, host of the two holy mosques of Islam, and Egypt, which has been the historic center of the Arab world and the largest population in the Arab world, both saying,

not endorsing every element of the plan, but supporting it and directly calling on the Palestinians to come to the table and begin to negotiate.

Right now, based on what's preceded in recent years,

don't expect it from this Palestinian leadership, but maybe we'll be surprised.

Anyway, I think, you know, President Trump is, to put it mildly, unconventional.

And sometimes this upsets me.

But other times, because he is willing to be unconventional and what the folks in the high-tech world call a disruptor.

disruptor he he does things or uh that enables things to happen that you look at and you say you know what, this is something we ought to try.

And believe me, this is a step toward peace in the Middle East

when and if there's a Palestinian leadership, and when there will be when, if now, a Palestinian leadership that is willing to get engaged with Israel.

And you're right.

This is a first offer, if you will.

It can be changed.

There's some things that Israel won't allow to be changed, but some things can be negotiated and the Palestinians ought to, the of Palestine, the Palestinian people, ought to rise up and push their leaders to go to the table with Israel

in a process, as the Saudis and Egyptians said, under the auspices of the United States.

We can mediate and they can get something done.

Joe, if you will hold on one minute, I want to continue our conversation.

Let me take one minute and write back with Joe Lieberman.

I mean, it's nice to be able to have a conversation with a Democrat Democrat

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So, one last question with Joe Lieberman on the Israel peace plan.

Joe, do you think that because Saudi Arabia and Egypt and UAE they're all part of this, and it seems sincere that there has been enough ground change in the Middle East that the tide may turn

if the Palestinian Authority just is,

you know,

stiff-arming any kind of peace talk.

Do you think that this tide turns at all?

I do.

I think the tide is turning.

The reality is that

there always have been covert

set of relations

where it was in the mutual interest between Israel and some of the Arab countries.

And of course, there's a piece of different effectiveness between Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan.

But it's changing now.

Part of it is that

the Arabs and the Israelis have a shared fear of Iran.

But the other is that the changes are occurring of modernization throughout the Arab world.

It's not coming as fast as we would have liked, but they're beginning to see Israel as an ally, including economically.

So

I'm hopeful if the Pel look, the most serious

people don't talk too much in the Middle East when I visit, and I've continued to go since I left the Senate, and I particularly visit Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt.

And what they really want to talk about is

reforms within the system, economic growth, and what are we, the U.S., going to do with them about Iran?

There's very little discussion about the Palestinians.

I don't know if the Palestinians appreciate that.

Look, the next step, and I know the Trump administration is working on it, is to have some of the Arab countries enter into what would be called a non-aggression pact with Israel.

Not full diplomatic relations, but the beginning of an easing.

And I think that can happen before long.

So thank God for that.

It's progress.

I've only got about a minute, minute, minute and a half here.

Iowa is Monday, and the Democratic Party is really at war with itself.

You have socialists beyond just I want a bigger Medicare system.

We're talking actual socialism that will dramatically change us.

They're talking about an end of capitalism, some of them.

And it looks like Bernie Sanders might win the Iowa caucus.

He'll probably win win New Hampshire, maybe win Nevada.

What do you see

happening in the Democratic Party?

Where are they headed?

Well, you're not going to be surprised to hear that this troubles me greatly because over time the party, certainly in foreign policy, has changed from where it was when I joined, when John F.

Kennedy was president.

But now the position, you know, we've developed a kind of regulated capitalism in America, and overall it's worked pretty well.

You could say it's too much, too little.

But

the philosophy that Bernie Sanders represents really is state control of increasing parts of our economy.

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And really, it's up to the voters in the primaries and who comes out.

If the center left and the center and the Democratic Party come out, Biden or Bloomberg or Klobuchar will do better.

But right now, I would say the dynamism is with Sanders.

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Daniel Hannon is a friend of freedom.

He is a guy that I met probably 15 years ago.

I don't actually know if we've ever actually met, but we've talked to each other via satellite so many times over the years.

He has worked 17 years to get out of the European Parliament.

He was a member of the European Parliament.

He led the campaign to get his job cancelled.

Brexit Day is finally here.

It's happening at 11 p.m.

European time.

That'll happen this afternoon here in America.

And we wanted to check in on a day I wasn't sure was ever going to come with Daniel Hannon.

Welcome, Daniel.

Thank you, Glenn.

It's a real pleasure, as always, to be with you.

And I'm delighted to say it's actually happening at 11 p.m.

UK time.

European time is something different.

Just to make clear to to your listeners, I'm not a European, I'm a Brit.

So

you're here, and the markets haven't collapsed, and the seas aren't on fire, and

there's going to be food in people's mouths, and grocery stores will be open tomorrow.

I'm looking out of my window.

I don't see any dinosaurs or any asteroid strikes.

There isn't World War III.

In fact, not only that, Glenn, but the UK economy has outperformed the Eurozone for the last couple of years.

We have more people in work than ever before in our history.

The stock exchange has surged.

Our exports are up.

Our manufacturing is up.

We've attracted more inward investment than any country in the world except China.

So I think we can reasonably look forward with some optimism and confidence to what the future holds.

So, Daniel, what does this mean?

First of all, let me just say this: A, congratulations.

B.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

You guys are, you did what we did in 1776, except we had to have a war over it because you guys were so stupid and stubborn.

But

when I watched Nigel Farage's speech, A,

I mean, I couldn't believe what they did to him in the end.

They made his point.

But I thought this is a shot heard around the world, just like our Declaration of Independence was.

You did a very American thing, and you did it right.

You did it without arms and riots.

I mean, that's a remarkable thing you guys have just pulled off.

Well, I could turn that around and channel Edmund Burke, who was, of course, an MP at the time of the Revolution, and say that you guys did a very British thing in 1776, which was to take to its logical conclusion the arguments in favor of personal freedom and democracy.

But I tell you this, no country that I can think of ever got poorer as a result of becoming more self-governing.

And I do think we are feeling something of the mood of optimism that swept over

the then colonies in 1776.

I was looking at

John Adams' letters, and he was probably the gloomiest of the founders.

You know, he seemed pessimistic about the fallen nature of man.

But on the day of the Declaration of Independence, even he got caught up with the mood, and he wrote to his wife Abigail, through all the gloom I can see the rays of ravishing light and glory.

I can see that the end is worth more than all the means and that prosperity will triumph.

And, you know, Brits are a fairly reserved people.

We wouldn't put it in such florid terms, but that is the mood here.

There are parties going on all around.

There are, you know, just I'm speaking for you to you from London.

There's a crowd a little bit down the road outside Parliament,

just happy, good-natured people waving the flag.

And as I walked past a moment ago, they were singing Sweet Caroline.

So good, so good.

Of course, it's a great thing to feel that you're back in charge of your own affairs.

So what do you think is going to happen with the European Union?

Because as I watched that and I connected to what he was saying about an out-of-control government that that's not what we signed up for,

it's corrupt.

You're ignoring us.

You go your own way.

You belittle us and you belittle the people.

And I thought, if I can relate to it, surely the people in France or Germany or

Norway or Sweden, they're looking at that going, yeah, you know what?

What are we doing?

Yeah, and that's the thing that they're really scared of.

How does the EU respond to Brexit?

Britain's going to be fine, but what's going to happen in the Eurozone?

And actually, again,

I don't want to kill this metaphor or this parallel by overdoing it, but since you started it, again, there's a fairly

Brits that started it just by.

the Brits immediately after Yorktown were in the same kind of mood that Brussels is in now.

They were hurt and angry, but it didn't take long for the British government to realize that its own interests depended on having a good cordial relationship with the new country.

And so the new administration under Shelburne in 1782 said, we're going to open all of our ports in Britain and the Caribbean to all American vessels.

We're going to renounce all our claims on all the trans-Appalachian territories.

You know, Adams and Jay and Franklin couldn't believe the generosity.

But from a British point of view, it was the correct thing to do because we understood that free trade is good for everybody.

That we wanted to have rich neighbors because rich neighbors make good customers.

And that's how it worked out.

Now, please remember that you did a similar realization.

You did come back in 1812 to

start a war and burn our white shots.

It was probably the most ridiculous war ever, right?

The reason that the war began was over before the first shots were fired.

And the only significant engagement took place after the peace terms had been signed, but before news had reached any audience.

But I mean,

the interesting thing is,

the EU could respond to the Brexit vote by saying, okay, I wonder why we got that wrong.

Maybe we've become a bit too remote.

Won't happen.

Maybe we need to reconnect.

Maybe the Italians or the Dutch or the Poles or the Danes will feel similarly.

Let's try and anticipate.

Let's try and devolve a little bit of power.

But you know, so far, they've done exactly the opposite.

They've said, oh, great.

Now that the Brits are out of the way, we can have a European army and we can have a European tax system and we can have more and more power for the centre.

And I think if they insist on taking that line, then the EU will fall apart sooner rather than later.

So, Daniel, I've never understood the parliamentary system.

Never understood it.

I mean, you guys seem to be going through prime ministers like water.

We have a different system with our impeachment, but that's really what we're talking about now: is whether you can impeach someone

that didn't do anything illegal, may do stuff that you didn't like, but really, if impeachment is more of a vote of no confidence, which our founders never intended,

what do we look like

to you, A, as a historian?

Can you give us some perspective where you're not connected to it?

And

be just as a Brit?

Well, I mean, I'm now going to say something that is probably guaranteed to offend every single person listening to you, whether they're a Democrat or a Republican, whether they support or oppose the impeachment, which is that I don't think that Donald Trump colluded with Russia, and I don't think that he

behaved in an impeachable way over the Ukraine business.

But I think that what we know of his behavior is so unprecedented and so indicative of bad character and bad judgment that that should count against him politically.

And I reckon that statement has offended absolutely everybody, because one of the things that is very striking about the US discourse at the moment is that everyone has to be 100% one way or the other.

Yes.

Everyone has to be, you know, and to say anything in between.

to say, for example, it's great that Donald Trump is cutting taxes, although it's a pity he lied about releasing his own tax return.

Or to say, it's fantastic that he's deregulating, really overdue.

But, you know, what a pity that he thinks it's okay to mock the family of a deceased American serviceman.

You never hear anybody saying those things because it's become so tribal and so polarized.

And I've got to say, that does worry me.

You know,

the extent to which people in the U.S.

now see the other side as enemies rather than as fellow citizens with a different opinion.

And

a great democracy can only only take so much of that.

So as a historian, you've watched us for a long, long time.

You know our history.

I think it was Churchill said one of the greatest things about

Americans is after they've tried everything else, they finally do it right.

Do we...

How do we get out of this one, Daniel?

Yeah, I mean, look, America is still the greatest republic on earth.

It is a fantastic, fantastic country.

And

now, you're only saying that because it's true.

But uh, yeah, but it is true.

It is true.

I mean you liberated millions of people from tyranny, you put the flag of your country on the moon, you you created uh the most open and free system of government on earth, and those things have deep roots.

But I would say, you know, they they depend on people valuing the rule of law and the process and and the rules.

And the the the thing that I find alarming about the US now is how indifferent people people are to due process when they happen to favor a particular outcome.

So, I mean, you know, it's a trivial example, but

I I would say that both Barack Obama and Donald Trump exceeded their powers and sidelined Congress in order to tamper with the rules on immigration.

Obama did it to liberalize immigration, Trump did it to tighten immigration.

But the number of people who who condemned them both, you could count pretty much on your fingers.

You know, and th the thing is, either either that's right or it's wrong.

It's it's not right when it it happens to be your guy, but wrong when it's the other guy.

And

as soon as you lose sight of that and you get into this kind of anything goes,

that's when you risk becoming like

Guatemala or Peru or somewhere else that has had a much weaker history of the rule of law and of peaceful democratic politics.

Daniel Hannon, it is always great to talk to you, and your insight is great.

And And I'm so happy, and there are millions of Americans that are cheering for your freedom today to chart your own course and to be your own country and to fly your flag with pride.

Well, we appreciate that, cousins.

Right back at you.

God bless you.

Thank you.

Daniel Hannon from London.

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I have a podcast that usually comes out on Saturday.

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But I want you to hear this podcast.

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This is the guy that the FISA courts, FBI, everybody lied about

to get the Donald Trump campaign spied on for Russian collusion.

So this is the beginning of it.

Well, he has been exonerated and they found out that they were doing all this stuff illegally with FISA.

I talked to him about,

you know, are you going to sue?

Well, yesterday he filed his first of many lawsuits.

Here he is talking about having to find a cure for the nation.

No, we're still all getting blocked.

So, yes, you know, there was some hard evidence that we're getting.

We got a 480-page Inspector General report, which came out in December of 2019.

But, you know, it's the tip of the iceberg.

There's so much more.

I guess I'm asking, is it kind of like

I have a friend who

thought this weekend that he had cancer.

I spent a lot of time with him this last weekend.

I'm sorry.

Talking through that.

And he would go through periods of real despair and then real hope.

And

because I've been through this before,

I wondered how he was going to react once he got the news one way or another.

Because there's something about not knowing for sure that gives you a little bit of hope.

You know what I mean?

So is it kind of like that moment when you find out that the government has

been reading everything, been watching everything, that

you had a little bit of hope that maybe that's not really going on?

Glenn, look, what I know for sure and what I've known for sure for over three years already is using your analogy, there is a serious cancer that our country is suffering from, based, you know, which started with this metastasizing of the Russia collusion hoax.

To me,

in answer to your question, that is the biggest problem and

thing at the forefront of my mind.

There's a lot of things that I'm starting to do to

help find a cure, if you will,

for both myself and for our entire country.

Litigation is one of those things.

Absolutely.

Your confidence level?

I'm very confident that my case is incredibly strong.

The thing which sometimes gives me a little bit of caution is I know what's been done in federal courts by false filings by U.S.

Department of Justice and private institutions, the DNC.

and media organizations in terms of some of my initial battles.

So,

and look, I mean, that's kind of

that caution is, you know, reason for that caution is a key storyline

in the Inspector General report, right?

Those 17 errors and omissions.

So what, you know, the caution, you know, I know my case if we're kind of basing things exactly upon the facts and whatever.

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