Best of the Program | Guests: Bill O'Reilly & Phillip Van Cleave | 12/6/19

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Bill O'Reilly is here.

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you know, when it comes to overseas.

Iran, we're talking about the

incredible things that are happening in Iran.

Pat stops by to make fun of me, and Stu's here the whole time.

We talk about the sanctuary counties and what's this big movement that's happening in Virginia.

And of course, Bill O'Reilly

goes off.

On Nancy Pelosi, he tells some interesting things never told before.

He just had dinner with Donald Trump last week.

And wait until you hear what he has to say about how Donald Trump is seeing the world right now and what is coming.

All that more on today's podcast.

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Welcome to the program.

It is Friday.

We're so glad that you're here.

Some were glad more than others.

Stu is here, and then there's, of course, Pat.

Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm good.

Yeah, are you?

I'm good.

Yeah, good, good.

Really good.

So,

you know, I know you like to mock people.

No, I do not.

Really?

No, I do not.

Okay, all right.

Because I

don't enjoy mocking.

That would be wrong of me.

Right, but you seem like you're in a good mood.

I am.

And I know you're going to mock

Joe Biden.

No, I just.

Well, I'm going to point out some things about Joe.

Okay.

All right.

Made he seemed.

I don't know if I can even do it.

All right, go ahead.

Now, Joe had a little incident yesterday, as you know, with a voter in Iowa.

And

if you're watching, can we explain this?

If you're watching the Blaze, no,

no, if you're watching the Blaze,

you might understand.

But anyway,

so,

Pat, Joe Biden yesterday did one of the most incredible things

I've ever seen.

I've never seen this before, quite honestly.

And this was

not to a conservative.

This is to somebody who's considering,

I think he said later, I will vote for Joe Biden if he's the guy, because I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump, so I'll vote for for Joe Biden, but I'm really considering Elizabeth Warren.

Yeah, he sounds like a pretty hardcore liberal.

Yeah, right.

But here's the exchange between him, because how dare you ask Joe a tough question?

Look at this.

Question how much you'll answer.

We all know Trump

has been messing around in Ukraine over there, holding their

for an A for

them to come up and saying we're an investigation.

We don't know about that.

And he's

a noback, but we know that for that.

But you, on the other hand,

sent your son over there to get a job and work for a gas company, but

he had no experience in gas and nothing.

Wow.

In order to get access to the public, to the president.

So

you're selling access to the president just like you are.

Holy

damn liar, man.

That's not true.

No one has ever said that.

No one has ever said that.

Everybody says that.

The State Department even said that.

And by the way, that's why I'm not sedentary.

I get up and

let them go.

Let them go.

Look, the reason I'm running is because I've been around a long time and I've known more than most people know.

And I can get things done.

That's why I'm running.

And you want to check my shape on, let's do push-ups together here, man.

Let's run.

Let's do whatever you want to do.

Let's take the 19 minutes.

Push-ups!

Good, yay!

No one has said my son has done anything wrong, and I did not on any occasion.

And no one has ever said it.

Not one.

You said, I set up my son to work in an oil company.

Isn't that what you said?

Get your word straight, Jack.

Wow.

You're on the MSNBC.

You don't hear that in MSNBC.

You did not hear that at all.

What you heard.

Look, okay, I'm not going to get in an argument with you, man.

Well, I don't love it.

Well, yeah, you do, but

look, Fat, look, here's the deal.

Look, Fat, look.

Here's the deal.

You don't have you on the backbone.

That's unbelievable.

This is...

Stop for a second.

This is really, truly unbelievable.

It is.

He obviously is judging the man on his fatness from the get-go.

Because why would you challenge him to go, let's go run, let's go do push-ups?

First of all, he says, I'm not sedentary, with the implication, like you obviously are, because you're a big fat pig.

Because there's nothing that set him up to say this.

Nothing.

No, nothing.

There's nothing in the setup to say anything about sedentary.

Obviously, you watch a lot of television because you're sedentary.

I'm not sedentary like you are.

Then he says, I know more than most people.

Then he tells him he's more intelligent than he is.

Then he says,

and he challenges him to the push-ups,

which is out of the blue.

Out of the blue, he's not challenging him and saying, you know, if you would have said, you know, and look, you've had strokes.

I'm not sure.

You're an older gentleman.

Then he could have done like Jack Palance.

And, you know, remember when Jack Palance came out and he did the push-ups on the stage.

Right, because it was a sign that he's still virile and young.

And even though he's 80,

that you could understand him saying, hey, well, let's do push-ups.

Let's go for a run.

Okay, that's totally cool.

He didn't challenge that.

Not at all.

His first response is, hey, fatty,

how about we do push-ups?

And at the end, he says, look, fat.

Look.

Yeah, if he's going for fatty or fat, so or

fatty, fat, fat.

Fatty, fat, fat, fatty, fat, fat, fat.

So you're fat.

Yeah, something like that.

Fat head.

Fat man.

I don't

know what's going on.

Hey, fat man.

If that was Donald Trump, and I don't think Donald Trump's ever been that rude to Boyle.

Okay, well, yes, he has.

Yes, he has.

We have to pull you back into reality.

You were drifting outside of the Oza, and then you were starting to get out into outer space.

It's very cold and dark.

Now I'm flying back like

What's Her Face did in Star Wars?

Remember that

Princess Leia?

Yeah, Princess Leia did.

Oh, that was so good.

Just let her die, man.

I know.

She did die.

That's the worst part.

She's actually in her life.

I know.

Just stop it.

She had a perfect ending.

Anyway, go ahead.

Anyway,

because

if it were Trump, it would lead every newscast.

He would be the worst person ever born today.

And he was

when he imitated the handicapped person.

Remember how that went for him?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I thought it was horrible.

I did too.

New York Times has a whole list of the 598 people Trump has insulted and what they've insulted.

Am I on that?

Yeah, you are.

You want to hear them?

No.

So, Glenn Beck, his endorsement means nothing.

He's crying.

He's dumb as a rock.

He's failing.

He's lost all credibility.

He's irrelevant.

He's a wacko.

He's sad.

I don't.

He's failing, crying, lost soul.

I don't need him.

He's very dumb and failing.

Has zero credibility.

I don't need it.

Irrelevant.

Mental basket case.

Viewers and ratings are way down.

The answer is irrelevant.

Wacky.

A real nutjob, and always seems to be crying.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You know what?

We bashed the New York Times.

Look at the journalism there at the New York Times.

Thank you for that.

So is that an excuse for this?

Or

this has been a long time ago.

This is one of my favorite pages I've ever bookmarked.

But is this something you've been trying to squeeze in, is what you're saying?

Just every day.

Right.

And is that a fat joke?

I mean, this is a weird moment, though, from a politician.

This is not Donald Trump, who made his career out of insulting people and telling them they're fired, right?

This is a guy who is supposed to be a politician.

And Glenn, over and over and over again, you see this, that whenever his son is brought up, almost in any context,

he is immediately defensive.

Yeah, incensed.

Okay, okay.

All right.

May I play devil's advocate here?

Okay.

Yeah.

And I am not excusing what he did.

I think he's corrupt.

I think the whole family is corrupt on this.

And it goes way beyond Ukraine.

And

we have the cable transfer verification of $160 million

going to Hunter Biden on something domestic.

So I'm not excusing him.

Here's what I said to the audience last night when we were talking about the impeachment.

What I'm afraid is Joe Biden's son, and I say this with respect

and empathy because I've been in, I'm in a family that has depression and has

suicide

as a given in my family.

I've had two suicides in my immediate family, so I get it.

Hunter Biden is a very unstable individual.

Like, terribly.

Very unstable.

Like, one of the most unstable people,

I think makes Charlie Sheen

look like he could say, dude, get your act together.

Okay, it's bad.

And so as a dad, I would be defensive as well.

You know, leave my son alone because I think Joe Biden is probably

in his own head.

has probably helped his son do these deals because,

dude, get your life together.

I'll help you.

Look, you're gonna, you know, he's trying to do the right thing, I think,

for his son by doing all the wrong things for his son.

Yeah,

I have some sympathy with that position because I was thinking about this.

We've done a lot on Hunter Biden's private life, just talking about it and going through it.

It's an incredible, crazy journey.

Think for a second if one of your kids was going through that.

Yeah, right?

Like, and you've already just lost a, you just lost a son or

a wife, you've lost You just lost a son.

I mean, it's a crazy.

This is a guy who found out, apparently, from media reports that Hunter was dating his other son's widow.

That's how he found out about it, not from Hunter.

So this is like, this has been a total disaster.

It's probably consumed his whole life.

Surely in his mind, if he ran in 2016, he'd currently be president.

All of this is revolving around these situations.

And every time someone brings it up, he has the anger of a

devastated devastated father.

I really think that's part of this.

I do too.

Or a very defensive politician.

Or a very defensive politician.

I think he could be both.

Yeah, and he doesn't react that way about other attack lines.

It just seems to be Hunter.

And I would say, too, like, he's because he, you pointed this out, Glenn, he's in his own mind, he's being a good dad.

Like, I think, in the same way, Lori Laughlin, in her own mind, is being a good mom.

Yes.

She's saying, like, I'm doing whatever I can to get my little girl into college.

Correct.

You know what I mean?

And so this is the same thing, I think.

And it's worse because you know the trouble your son has had.

Yeah.

And you're trying to save your son.

Right.

And so he, that does not excuse 1% of his behavior, but I think it does explain some of it.

He really does seem like

his family life has been such a disaster for so long that this stuff really gets to him.

They say this about Trump all the time, like, oh, mention he doesn't make, he doesn't really have $10 billion.

He really get under his skin.

And they think you can kind of climb under his skin.

Every piece of this Hunter thing gets under his skin.

Every piece of this gets under Biden's skin, too.

I mean, it goes to the core.

You can see what a debate is going to be like between these two guys.

Oh, my God.

I mean, it is going to be.

Trump might say Hunter 65 times in the first 10 minutes.

It's going to be a Muhammad Ali Fraser fight.

I mean,

this is going to be a blood sport between those two.

And more and more, it looks like it's going to be the two of them.

After a moment like that, I mean, that's like a campaign sinker in previous elections.

For a Republican, it would be.

Because the media would be all over him.

But the media is not even fat-shaming.

Who's the fat-shaming?

Right.

Nobody cares about that.

I will tell you that Joe Biden.

I am very, you know, let me take a quick break and then I'll come back because there's one concern about this impeachment that I have that I think is real.

And I've never heard anybody talk about it.

We'll do that in one minute.

We could do that, but I mean, why would we care from a mental basket case like you?

I mean, you're dumb as a rock.

I keep you employed.

You're remembering to be crying always.

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Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, that sick freak.

Welcome to the program, Bill.

First of all, are you guys intoxicated or what?

We're working on it.

We are working on it.

Yeah, we are working on it.

Yeah, it's 9 o'clock.

What at 10 after 9 central time?

What's the matter with you people?

I know.

We drink before 9.

Yeah, yeah.

Only alcoholics drink before 9, Bill.

I mean, unless they're just going still from the night before.

Yeah, then it's okay.

Which we were usually doing.

But anyway, so, Bill.

Yo.

Did you see the video of Joe Biden just eviscerating this guy

in one of his

nomo large stops?

Did you see it?

What are your thoughts?

You know, you know,

I don't see it the same way that everybody else sees it because I know that Biden

loves his son, and I know that he lost the other son, Bo.

Yep.

and his emotions are overriding everything now.

Yes.

All right.

So

that's exactly what I said last hour, Bill.

Thank you for listening.

No, I didn't steal it from you.

No, you did.

You did.

No, I didn't.

I didn't hear you.

Steal from me.

You've stolen twice.

But

here's the thing on that.

I 100% agree with you

that

Hunter is a child that has been a troubled child for a very, very long time.

And as a dad, you know, I think Joe Biden is,

in his own mind, thinks he's doing what's right for Hunter

in helping him and getting him all of these gigs and everything else.

I think he thinks he's helping him when,

in my opinion, only, I think he's helping destroy him.

But if you, as a dad, have had this troubled kid and you've already lost your wife, then you lost your son, and then you have this son who is always on the edge, I would be extraordinarily protective as well.

I don't think it's so much that he's thinking at all.

I think he's just reacting.

So,

you know, he's running for president.

Does he really have his heart in it?

No, no, no.

I'm not a mind reader, but he's certainly not campaigning effectively.

He's not.

And nobody can argue with that.

So that's number one.

And number two, he's got this kid who every time he turns around is embarrassing him and his family.

And he doesn't know what to do with the kid.

So

it's raw.

It's like a raw emotion.

But what is he thinking?

This is the thing.

Look, if you're going to put yourself on a bus and zoop around a state

and say no malarkey and then take Q ⁇ A.

What do you think is going to happen?

So he should have been prepared for this kind of question and he was well at least at least from people who are over 90 that understand the term malarkey right i know that's i mean that is i mean that's a brilliant marketing team oh my gosh um yeah we're gonna be drinking sarsaparello with joe and talking no malarkey i tell you that let's get a little sarsaparilla over here for joe and his uh crazy okay so we but the point is that he's running for president that's holly the terror dog by the way um He's running for president, and he's not prepared for this.

See, that's the story.

It's not the lashing out at the chubby guy.

All right?

The chubby guy was doing this on purpose.

Chubby guy wanted to embarrass him.

Chubby guy could say, oh, I'm a Democrat.

I'm going to vote for him anyway.

Bull.

This is set up.

Chubby guy saw his opportunity, went in.

I'm going to do this.

I'm going to get attention for myself.

But what does it say about Joe Biden and

understanding of just even just the power of being a man when the first thing out of his mouth was,

well, you're sedentary and you want to challenge the push-ups?

I mean, that's like...

But that's what I'm talking about.

The guy doesn't have control over the process.

He's not rational on a campaign trail.

And that's the story.

So what's going to happen?

What's going to happen?

Because you know the one way to get under Donald Trump's skin.

And I think Bloomberg is probably in the only position to really, really do this.

Of standing on stage with Donald Trump and going, you know, Donald, I mean, you say you're a billionaire, but please.

That's never going to happen.

So you're basically

weaving a fantasy.

Okay, but you know that.

Right, but you know that's what would get under his skin.

No, but Biden would.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Okay.

No, because I know Trump better than anybody.

All right.

Trump.

Maybe his children.

But I'm telling you,

I know the guy

really well.

And he doesn't care what you say about him.

He doesn't care what you say about his kids, about his father, about his mother.

He doesn't care.

All right?

So he's not going to be like Biden.

He's not going to do that.

What he'll do is he'll attack you.

And yes, if the chubby guy did that to Trump, which would never happen, because Trump's people would never put him on a bus, never,

and he would never go to a diner and take Q ⁇ A.

Ever!

Never!

Okay?

So, but if you got Trump on a stage, a debate stage, and you said to him, hey, you're a corrupt guy who's incompetent and blah, blah, blah.

Trump doesn't care really what you're saying.

He would just go in and eviscerate you personally.

All right, and then

it would be a mudfight.

Okay, so how does Trump do that?

Let's say that Joe Biden is the candidate.

How does Joe Biden,

knowing how he reacts and knowing that knowing that Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have sympathy, not for the dirtiness or anything else, but have sympathy as dads for Joe Biden.

And you can say, look,

I give him some room on this one.

I think that's really out of line, but I give him some room.

How does Donald Trump even talk about what happened with Hunter Biden and corruption?

Trump couldn't care less about Biden and Biden's tragedies.

No, I know that, but the American people will.

No,

but Trump's not going to calibrate it that way, ever.

He doesn't calibrate, gee, if I say this, what are the American people going to think about me?

No, I know.

Ever.

He never does that.

No, I know.

He's going to go with the business.

There are times that people around him should be thinking those things and probably are thinking those things.

I know.

But I'm asking you, what is the end result with the American people if he just.

Oh, I see.

You want me to speculate about how they would.

You are the worst.

You are the worst.

How they would react to broadsides against.

Well, it's not a hard speculation.

Trump's base would enjoy it.

All right?

So there would be a sitcom for them.

They don't care what you say about Hunter Biden

or Biden's family or anything like that.

And I'm not saying this in a cruel way.

It's just that their rationalization is Donald Trump's been attacked so badly

so often that whatever Donald Trump does is justified.

Yeah.

Okay, so that's number one.

The independents and those people, the women,

horrified.

Horrified.

The men,

you know,

you know, the men are voting for, hey, am I going to keep my job?

Am I going to be able to add more to my 401k?

That's what the men are voting for.

They're not looking for sensitivity.

They're not looking for perspective.

They're looking for performance.

But women would be, you know, unaligned women, unaligned women, appalled

if he goes in and he rips up

Joe Biden and Saudi.

Okay.

Mr.

Bell O'Reilly.

Yes, I'm here.

I'm attentive.

So

let's get your take on first what happened in the impeachment hearings this week

with the very non-biased, open thinkers.

Number one, I was watching reruns of Mayberry RFD on the Me channel.

Right.

So I missed a lot of the live stuff.

Right.

Because Goober is really, he's more in tune to my way of thinking.

Yeah, I like just plain old Mayberry, the RFD days, you know.

It's kind of when they were stretching, but I get it.

I get it.

You're right.

So I would why would anybody, any human being in this country, pay attention to this this week?

Why?

So

you parade in three people

that hate Trump.

Oh, they loathe him.

And they sit there and they just dish bad stuff on him.

And then they have one guy kind of doesn't like him, but is actually a thinker and says, you know, you really don't have enough to impeach him or anyone else.

So why are we here?

And why do I want to watch this?

For what?

I don't know.

I don't learn anything.

Do I want to watch corruption in the government on display?

I'm pretty much convinced that happens every day now.

Don't really need to see it again.

So, you know, the cable TV ratings have been pretty good this week.

There are people who are interested in this.

I don't know why.

Maybe you can tell me.

I don't know why.

No, I have no idea why.

I have no idea why.

Yeah, because

it's not going to lead anywhere.

I mean, he's going to get acquitted in the Senate.

And by February, this is just a bad memory.

So what does this do to our republic?

Well, it's bad for the country in a variety of ways because it just polarizes people even more.

It was interesting because in the interview I did with President Trump on a radio, did you hear that, Beck?

No, I didn't.

No, I but you heard about it on the radio.

Are you kidding me?

That's all we could talk about.

So, in the interview I did with him,

it was quite clear that

he,

as president, believes he's doing a good job, and he believes that this whole impeachment is going to help him get reelected.

That's the Trump view that I'm going to get reelected, and this impeachment thing's helping me

because people see it as crazy land.

However, the other side hates him so much.

that they don't even consider there might be a backlash.

Because they live in a bubble.

The Trump haters pretty much associate with the Trump haters.

They did, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, they don't go out of that.

And then if you don't hate Trump, they don't want to have anything to do with you.

They don't want to talk to you.

They don't want to give you a ride to the bus station.

They don't want any part of you.

So it's an isolated, what we're becoming is an isolated tribal country, which we have never really been before except for the Civil War.

So we're becoming tribes of of people who have special interests, political interests, fanaticism here and there.

And the media drives that.

So the tribe watches MSNBC.

The tribe watches Fox News channel, right?

And there's no other there's no non-tribe people watching.

They're they're all of the same mindset.

So in instead of E pluribus unum, okay, Stu, tell me what that means.

Um from many

That's right.

It's now,

I can't, I don't know the Latin word for tribe, but I'll just say tribum.

That's what we are.

Tribalellis.

Tribalis.

And interestingly enough, I'm sure you heard that my new killing book is Killing Crazy Horse, the Merciless Single.

Is it really?

Yeah.

Oh, Crazy Horse is one of my.

You got to send this to me.

Crazy Horse is one of my favorite characters in American history.

Well, you're going to love this book.

But anyway, I don't want to plug the book now.

There'll be plenty of time for plugging the book.

But the tribes.

Maybe not.

Not on this show.

Maybe not.

Maybe I don't like it.

Then you're not getting a free book.

Then,

in the Native American culture, it was all tribes.

All right, so we're going back

to the Native American culture.

And the tribes didn't have anything in common with the other.

So the Apaches in Arizona didn't have anything in common with the Sioux

up in North Dakota and Montana.

Okay, so this is what we're becoming.

And people don't understand it because they don't get any intellectual analysis in the media at all.

All they get is rooting, I'm rooting for Trump to be destroyed, or I'm rooting for Trump to be president forever.

Okay, they don't get.

This is what is happening in America.

We're dividing ourselves into tribes that hate each other.

And that's like what happens in the Balkans.

That's like Kosovo and Montenegro.

Yeah,

except there's no borders here on this one.

We're all mixed in with each other.

Yes, but we're becoming isolated from each other.

Yeah, even though we live next door to each other or we work in the next cubicle for one another.

That's right.

So we don't talk to Emily because Emily likes Trump.

Correct.

And so this is the destructive nature of what is happening politically in America.

And nobody, now they know on the Glenn Beck program what it is.

But I'll tell you, I'll submit to you that what I just told you, very few people are aware of.

Bill,

what is

how does the d what tell me the mindset, if you can, of Nancy Pelosi and those in the Democratic Party.

How do they think this going to end, and

how do you think it's going to end?

Okay.

Nancy Pelosi, if you watch her, if you watch her body language, which is really fascinating, and the way she conducts herself when James Rosen asked a very legitimate question yesterday.

Oh my gosh, she's incredible.

Do you hate Donald Trump?

And she went off the wall.

Now,

that's a legitimate question, and nobody should have gone off the wall if you ask it.

You say, no, I don't.

i just believe that he has abused his power and shouldn't be there that's all right you don't go oh no

yeah don't he really i mean she when she said don't you ever use that kind of language with me i mean that was shocking right now there are two things nancy pelosi is not used to be being asked anything that goes against her prevailing wisdom because the press is in a tank.

So she was caught by surprise by that question.

And the second thing is that Nancy Pelosi is a fanatic.

Okay, hang on.

Let that sit and simmer for a while, and then we'll come back with more of Mr.

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Phil Van Cleave is the president of Virginia Citizens Defense League.

And he is joining us now.

He believes in the right to keep and bear arms.

And Virginia

has really turned quite radical,

Phil.

Has it not?

I mean, towards the left.

Yeah, Glenn,

the last election gave power for the first time in 26 years in all branches, basically, to the Democrats, the House, the Senate, and Virginia, and governor, and Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General.

So,

yeah,

it has.

And that's largely because a lot of people slept through the election, only 40% turnout.

And what does this mean for gun owners in Virginia?

Used to be a very solid state, and now it's going hardcore left.

Well, for one thing, our governor had some problems with a photo coming up of him being in blackface or being in the Ku Klux Klan outfit.

We're not sure which it was.

It could have been, you know,

either one.

And to divert attention from that and the fact that he was willing to calmly talk about how you could go about killing babies that had managed to get born, or maybe an abortion didn't work and they actually got born and they deciding what to do and killing this baby laying on it.

Trying to get away from that stuff, he decided to focus on guns.

Plus, tons of money came in from Bloomberg.

Tons, millions, and millions and millions came in the state because Bloomberg wants to get gun control going in Virginia big time.

He doesn't like Virginia because years ago we passed a law when he tried to trick gun dealers into into doing straw sales or illegal sales.

Our state put together a new law that said, You come in here and do that again, and we're going to charge you with a felony.

He's never forgiven us for that.

So

he's really out to get guns in Virginia.

It's like a

fetish with him.

Okay, so

does it look like the Democrats will actually

go the way of Bloomberg and

start taking away guns, or is it it just

a preparation step to

start really looking into

sanctuary cities?

It's really, yeah, they decided to come on board full blast with all kinds of gun control.

We would end up being worse than New York or New Jersey or California.

Just all kinds.

Oh, yes.

They put that all in.

But what happened was...

Then he woke a sleeping giant.

All the gun owners that have been sleeping for years all of a sudden woke up.

And, oh, my, you should see the rallies we're having.

Boards of supervisors, all of them cities, they're all saying, we've never seen ever this many people here for any other thing.

You know,

so, so, Philip, explain to the people because there's,

you know, sanctuary cities usually are, we're not going to enforce this law.

Well, what you're saying is you're going to enforce the Constitution.

No matter what you pass, the Constitution says this.

So it's really not radical.

I mean, in today's world, it is, but it's not a radical idea.

No, we are simply protecting a constitutional, constitutionally protected right.

We're simply saying, yeah, this right is protected, period.

And you can pass what you want.

But if it violates the Constitution, then too bad.

And we have sheriffs saying, yeah, they're not going to enforce this stuff.

Because these laws that they're putting in don't affect people like me and you, people that aren't criminals that have you know

perfect records and all these are going after uh it's going after it's going after you and me not people that are criminals and so we're having you and i are having the ones to in virginia that would have to do stuff sell guns or turn them in or not be able to have this or that or go here or there

it would never be criminals we wouldn't care so we had a question yesterday come on the show and it's my understanding and and this I would love your help on this it's my understanding that

the sheriffs are the only law enforcement that answer directly to the people they don't answer to the governor they don't answer to the mayor or anybody else they are county sheriffs that are elected by the people and so they are a

a force

that is on their own.

They're kind of the last line of defense for the Constitution.

Is that true?

Yes, that is true.

Texas, I think, also has elected sheriffs when I was a deputy of Berkeley County.

Yeah.

But

also, our prosecutor, our Commonwealth attorney,

the state prosecutor is in elected position, so they too answer to the people.

So

we also have prosecutors saying, Yeah, I'm not going to prosecute this stuff.

What does that do?

I mean, what what what does the left do?

Because I can't imagine in America coming for guns.

It just won't.

They're already trying to backpedal on this stuff.

They've watched, they're actually, they're very concerned.

They're watching this whole, they're seeing an uprise is what they're seeing of people going to all these meetings.

We have 43 counties now that are saying we're not, we're sanctuary.

Out of how many counties?

Out of how many counties?

95.

So we're

approaching the halfway mark.

And

that's, we've only been doing this since a little after the election in November.

So this is and there's going to be a vast number of them coming up to consider this on Monday and Tuesday.

We're also planning to have

our Lobby Day rally on january twentieth at 8 a.m.

at the Capitol.

The rally actually starts at 11, but Lobby Day starts at 8.

We expect we don't know how many people we're going to have, but I we can usually turn out 1,000, 800 to 1,000.

I think this is going to be an absolutely eye-popping thing.

My wife is kind of pointing out she thinks that what's actually going on in Virginia will end up being historical.

And I think it will.

I don't think I will see anything like this.

Well, I think that the people rising up against things that are unconstitutional is what our founders told us to do.

It's why we have the First and Second Amendment.

And when the people rise up locally, I think it will have an impact.

I mean, but how many of you, you know, you're really kind of run by Fairfax County, are you not now?

Well, it it's a few areas.

Yeah, that's the problem.

We don't have an electoral college in Virginia, so the the vast majority of the state's red, but it's being dragged around by a few blue areas.

And those and so if people don't know the region, Fairfax County is basically the suburb of Washington, D.C.

Yeah, it's it is, and it's it's uh very blue, and a the rest of the state is is pretty much red with a little splotch of blue here and there, not much.

And they're just dragging us around, and the rest of the state is basically standing up saying, enough of this.

You know, you're not coming after our rights.

The very guns that they want to ban are exactly what our founding fathers would expect us to have.

By the way, one sheriff here in Virginia said if they were to pass a gun ban, he will deputize every gun owner in the county to make them law enforcement so they can keep their guns.

How's that for some guns?

Wow.

Wow.

And he can do that too, can't he?

Yes, he can.

That's amazing.

Yeah, our attorney general, oh, it's wonderful.

They asked one of the one of the Democrat delegates asked our attorney general, hey, what about these sanctuary cities?

These have no meaning, right?

And I was just dying to see his response because he supported sanctuaries for

illegal aliens.

So how is he going to answer this?

They either are or they

are not something, you know.

So

it's kind of put him between a rock and a hard place.

So, Philip, are you hearing from other states in the Union and

parts of the country that are looking at you as a test model?

Oh, yes, absolutely.

Because they know if Virginia falls, then they're next.

I mean, there's nowhere to run.

We're pointing out

to members, there's nowhere to run.

You can go to Kentucky, you can go to North Carolina, you can go to Texas.

It's all coming.

You have to stand up and fight where you are.

This country, you cannot run.

We're here to fight.

People died in ditches to be where you and I are.

We can certainly stand and fight these stupid politicians.

Yeah.

Philip, thank you so much, and I

wish you the best and

my

sincere hope that everything remains sane and

nobody stupid gets involved and

does things on either side because I think people have had enough of being pushed around and the Constitution being just

shoved into a corner or

outright ignored.

And peaceful movements like this, where you stand your ground, are going to be the things that change the course of the country.

Thank you so much, Philip.

It is.

Thank you very much.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

If you want to find out more, you can go to VCDL, VCDL dot org.

That's Virginia Citizens Defense League, VCDL, D L, and find out more on this.

I've said this many, many times for many years.

Know who your sheriff is.

Get to know your sheriff.

Your sheriff is the last line of defense when it comes to guns.

They report directly to you.

There's no governor or mayor or anybody else in line.

When you have your police department, they are doing the bidding of the commissioner and the mayor and everyone else.

This is a standalone organization, and it was for a reason.

And so, know who your county sheriff is and make sure that they are for the First and Second Amendments.

What the hell?

They're for all of the amendments to the Constitution.

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