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just two days before Thanksgiving now.

So, short week should bring you some, I don't know, excitement, happiness, joy into your life.

Well, unless you're going to meet with relatives that you can't stand.

Well, yes.

Yes.

We had a story that I shared on Pat Gray Unleashed earlier today, a poll

that said only 3%

of families actually get into arguments at Thanksgiving at the table.

Really?

They're likely to get into an argument.

About 8% are somewhat likely.

So it's up to 11% of families that might have a big knockdown drag out over politics.

Over politics.

Over politics.

Yeah.

Because I don't think it's always about politics.

No, that's probably true.

I don't remember many arguments going back to when I was a kid with parents going at each other by any means.

No, we never had that.

No, I mean, it was always a great time.

I loved our holidays.

But you can see if you have one of those fights, it's really memorable, right?

Like you're blowing up your family for a period of time.

Yes.

So it kind of does maybe have an outsized place in your memory.

But I don't think it's, is it real that people are fighting all the time?

I don't know.

It might be more real right now because tensions are so high and because we are at each other's throats all the time.

I don't know.

It feels like, you know, tension and bloodshed could break out at any moment.

But maybe that's just perception because we see this stuff every single day.

And, you know, we get to see all the

buffoons in the news who are interrupting events, not letting events occur, yelling and screaming their hatred for Trump.

I mean, you know, maybe it's overblown because we just see it every day.

That is part of it, clearly, right?

Yeah.

You know, people who complain about how awful Twitter is

and how, you know, just terrible it is for everybody who's on it.

And then they're on it complaining about those things.

They're actually on Twitter doing it.

And

you get yourself into that mode.

It can get really ugly.

But when you look at the, I mean, even the stats show,

what is it, like 8% of people are responsible for like 75% of the tweets?

It's something ridiculous like that.

Because most people in America are not on Twitter.

They're certainly not on Twitter in the way that reporters are on Twitter.

And that's a big part of this.

I think

you see maybe the mainstream media if you're the average person.

And you see...

a bunch of people telling you what's going on in the news who are sitting on Twitter all day reading tweets from other liberal journalists telling them how terrible Donald Trump is every day.

So of course it flavors their reporting.

I mean I think it's different than the old days where you had people who were generally liberal,

however,

would convince themselves they were trying to be fair.

They were trying to tell the truth.

And their truth, of course, always wound up being liberal, but it was, there was at least a

tip of the hat to the conservative argument somewhere in the story a lot of times.

They've abandoned all of that

circa 2016.

They've just been like, okay, that happened.

Now we can no longer hide it.

We can no longer take the risk.

This is too important.

We have to come out and just scream at everybody every day.

And it's a terrible approach.

It never works.

Right.

You know, if you have, and if you're watching a horror movie and you have that big jump scare where something jumps out in front of you

and

you're like, like legitimately jump in the theater because it is, it's that big moment.

And it happens once or twice in in a great horror movie the bad horror movies they do it like 25 times you know like every single time like the person turns around there's a person standing there and a big loud noise and you're like all right you just did that

why is this person so scared they're walking around their kitchen and nothing is happening like this is not a scary moment and i think that's where the american people are now on this with trump it's like if If the media had come out and said, look, he's the president.

We're going to judge what he does.

We're going to watch every day.

And then, you know, when he passes tax cuts, we're going to say, you know what?

That's going to help a lot of people.

We're not going to lie about it and say it's all rich people getting tax cuts.

And when he has a judge that comes in, we're not going to just accuse him of rape.

You know, we're not going to just go.

Hey, some random person walked into our lobby today and said the Supreme Court nominee raped somebody.

40 years ago.

40 years ago.

Let's just believe them.

Like you can't do those things because when you have something that you think is legitimate, and I don't think it's Ukraine, but let's just say at some point Trump does something that is impeachable.

It's possible.

It's rare, but it's possible.

If he were to do something that was on that level, would anyone be won over by the argument from these people who've been telling us that

every single thing the guy has done since he walked into office was impeachable?

Yeah.

You can't.

It's like Chicken Little.

You're screaming that the sky is falling all the time when it's not falling.

That's what the Democrats have done.

And

hopefully people are seeing that because, and I think they are.

The impeachment polls lately have been

going toward Trump now.

They're starting to think that this is, you know, the Democrats don't have any evidence and they don't.

And so the polls are really tightening up for the president right now on this impeachment situation anyway.

Yeah, and I think

they've kind of shot their best bullets already on this one, right?

I mean, they came out with their best witnesses.

This was the best version of their case.

They didn't have to allow any pushback from Republican witnesses.

They just decided to go for it.

And, you know, look, they're going to probably impeach him because they have control and they can do whatever they want.

I'd be very surprised if they went through this whole charade without actually getting an impeachment out of it.

So they can at least tell their AOC fans, you know, look, we did something.

Yeah, we tried.

Outside of that, I don't know.

I mean, there's certainly at this point nothing that's going to even come close to removal.

So no get out of this.

I mean,

I think they're starting to sense it might actually hurt them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there was this story earlier this week, too.

Well, like yesterday, that

they're getting cold feet.

Some of them seem to be getting cold feet on the whole impeachment process.

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You got an Epstein update here?

Yeah, because look, there is a lot of divisiveness in this country today, and a lot of people are going to come around the Thanksgiving table and maybe get into some arguments.

But there's one thing that we can all come together on, which is that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

Exactly.

I think we all could recognize that one central truth.

And I mean, I joke a little, but I mean, it is now,

it's coming, it's showing up in polls now.

I bet.

This is going to be a thing.

Like, this is going to be a thing that we all believe soon, right?

And we went back and forth a little bit about this earlier.

And I don't.

There's not really like evidence per se that he's a lot of circumstantial.

people.

It's just so suspicious.

It is.

Yeah.

So suspicious.

You can't deny it's suspicious.

You have to, right?

Like, listen to the way this is written.

I think, I don't remember who I don't have the source here in front of me.

But 45% of Americans baselessly believe that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered according to a.

Baselessly?

Wait a minute.

Baselessly.

I mean, look, I don't like conspiracy theories at all.

I like seeing the evidence.

And even with this one, like,

there are a lot of people that are acting in ways that don't make sense if

you're trying to cover up a murder.

There's a lot of people who are totally unrelated to this saying things that are not consistent

or don't make a lot of sense.

Why would they be involved in a cover-up?

Like, it doesn't, it's a very far-ranging thing.

And I keep coming back to the idea that if you wanted to kill Jeffrey Epstein, you had 10 years of this guy just walking around Miami, right?

Like, you know, he was very available to kill, and he had a private island.

You could have just showed up when he was there, right?

Like, there's a lot of ways to kill Jeffrey Epstein that are much easier than waiting until he is in a cell.

Well, Bill was on the plane with him 26 times.

He could have killed him right there.

But this is a SurveyMonkey

poll.

And

I think the idea of...

baselessly here is just you're pushing it with that, right?

Like the cameras are out.

Two guards fall asleep.

The guy was on a

suicide watch and then pulled off of it so he could commit suicide.

His cellmate was taken out of the cell just hours before this happened.

The guards never check him, despite the fact that they were supposed to do that every 15 minutes.

I mean, there's so many things.

They didn't have the paper sheets they're supposed to have that tear away instead of, you know, strangle somebody.

So, I mean, how many things came together to allow him to commit suicide?

It is suspicious.

It is suspicious.

I can't deny it's at least suspicious.

Right.

I mean, there's not a lot of conspiracy theories that I buy into, but we all have our like little pet theory, right?

Like, I feel like there's some, and this is one, I think, is going to be a big one for a lot of people.

I mean, we're up to half of America already that believe it, which is fast.

They need to do a really thorough report and convince the American people if this was not something more than suicide.

You really need to walk people through it, I think, because it just

doesn't seem possible.

34%

believe this in August.

So it's gone from 34 to 45

in only a couple of months.

Only 16% believe he died by suicide.

That's down

from 33%.

So it's been cut in half.

Wow.

And

it really.

And the remainder is they're not sure.

So 45,

16

39% unsure.

According to the poll.

Dang,

that's a high percentage of unsure, too.

Yeah.

Well, look, none of us were there.

Yeah.

None of us have read the report beginning to end.

I mean, obviously some media people have done it, but generally speaking, no one.

It's just, it's one of those things that just doesn't make sense.

I don't, like, my chosen conspiracy theory.

My little pet one, which I turned out to be seemingly true, at least in a book that came out last year, was the whole John Roberts Obama care.

He He changed his mind at the last second and rewrote it.

And

he was supposed to be on the side of the conservative argument and last minute switched.

It does seem like that one was actually true.

Now, there's, you know, the extension of that theory is that he did it for some illicit reason, like he was hiding some secret.

I tend to think it was more of a situation.

Where there was something about his daughter, right?

I don't remember if that was it.

Yeah, it was something where they're basically saying like, you know, he got blackmailed into changing changing it.

I don't know if I believe that part of it, but I did believe that he changed it at the last second for some reason.

And the reporting now is that he changed it kind of to like

maintain the

legacy.

His legacy.

I mean, it was.

Right.

It's lame.

And something that a Supreme Court justice should never do.

I mean, exactly.

Talk about impeachment.

There's a much better case for Roberts than there is for Trump, in my mind, because that's the type of stuff you shouldn't be doing.

I mean, he basically voted against what he believed was constitutional to trade out a

favor later on.

Like, he tried to convince liberals to vote with him, so he changed his opinion.

So, they'd come along and it didn't look too partisan.

Ooh,

no, they never care about that.

When's the last time a leftist cared about

what looked partisan?

They never do.

They never do.

So,

you know, that one, I don't know, you know, if that's even a conspiracy theory anymore, but this one is

it's just one of those things

that I think almost everybody believes is way too suspicious.

Even if you are completely fine, okay, yeah, he killed himself.

Because look, there's a lot of reasons for the guy to kill himself.

Here's a guy who lived his entire life, you know,

following, you know, receiving every little pleasure he wanted from every little illegal person or illegal act that he could have maintained it from.

And now he's in a jail cell.

He can't do anything.

His life is obviously over.

He's not getting out of that cell.

It's over.

He's disgraced.

He's disgraced completely, which is bizarre because really he did the things that he was caught for, you know, he's being disgraced for long ago.

And he went through the whole

situation then, came through on the other side of prison, which wasn't really prison.

He was in his own private wing of

jail by himself.

And then he was able to leave for 12 hours a day, six days a week, to go to work.

So that's not really prison.

That's not.

That's really not.

That's not prison.

No, it's not.

But he was able to continue this lifestyle.

And we don't know how many women

he was with.

But we do know that when he had, this is after,

and women is not the right word.

I should note, women not the right word in this particular context.

But he was, you know, he was sleeping with all these girls.

He got caught, went to jail, then got out, finally cleared himself of all these huge punishments.

Because, I mean, you know, when you wind up luring 30, 40, 50 high school girls

for sex to your home, I mean, you figure private wing leaving all the time, you know, in

a year or so is about right for a punishment.

Unbelievable, right?

But he continues to, like, for example, he continues, has his reporters over for interviews to his house in New York.

And who answers the door?

Like a teenage girl.

19-year-old girls from like the Eastern Block.

Yeah.

This is not a good.

Amazing story.

It's amazing.

I mean, he was a bad dude.

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Another thing about Jeffrey Epstein is,

at least according to a journalist who I was reading a couple of weeks ago, I think this journalist was from New York Magazine.

Yeah, this is one of the stories that I read as well.

Yeah, he went over to his house, his mansion in New York.

And I think that's the one where the 19-year-old opened the door, right?

And showed him in.

This was in 2008 or 2009.

It was after his initial problems.

Yeah, it was later than that, I think.

Maybe even later than that.

Yeah.

And so he went in and interviewed Epstein for hours.

I mean, the guy gave him access to the house.

He looked all around.

He wanted him to write his autobiography.

Right.

He wanted to ghost write his autobiography.

Which I don't think.

No, he said no.

But Epstein, he said Epstein was completely open about it and completely unrepentant about it.

And he just acknowledged, yeah, I like young girls.

And he just didn't think it was wrong.

He said, well, they used to do this all the time.

Well, they used to do a lot of things all the time.

They used to burn people at the stake, too.

I don't do that much anymore.

So

it's not exactly a great argument.

I mean, it's not.

World history is completely.

But he didn't hide it.

No.

From the journalist, at least.

He tried to make a point of like, look, you know, this is normal in a lot of cultures, and it's not a big deal.

And I never did anything that they didn't consent to.

Well, we have age of consent.

I don't know if you've ever heard of this,

where you have to be, you cannot consent when you're 12.

That's not a thing you can do.

Not possible.

Not legally possible.

Right.

You know, it's like, let's say you just want to one day say you're black when you're white.

That's not possible.

Let's say you want to say you're a boy when you're a girl.

Not possible.

It's becoming increasingly possible somehow.

But you know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't just make these things come true.

There are laws.

There's no way to consent when you're 12 years old to a 40-year-old.

That's not a thing.

So I'm glad it's not a thing.

It's

one of those situations we should keep intact, I feel like.

Because of the denial of some of the other things you just mentioned, maybe one day it will be a thing.

I mean,

they're going to try to knock down that taboo as well.

Yeah, I mean, we've seen it happen in a bunch of, if you look at the far-left publications.

You will see wasn't it Salon that was written

and how, you know, they're misunderstood or whatever.

Yeah, misunderstood.

And as long as they don't act on it.

But it'll go further and further to the point where eventually it'll be

certainly attempting to normalize it.

And it feels weird because

it's like if you're looking at someone you live with every day and they're losing or gaining weight, and you might not notice it every day.

But after someone who hasn't seen them in a year, they come by and they're like, oh my gosh, look at this fat cell.

I know that because people say it to me a lot.

But

it's what happened.

I mean, if we go back just to like the, let's say the Romney election year and you be, and you would be told that basically every mainstream media source will tell you that it is completely real, that you can just identify as the other gender, there's no way anyone would have believed us in this audience.

No.

There's no way.

No way.

And we wouldn't have believed it either.

It's not like we predict.

I mean, like, you know, you could see this stuff coming, but

that was 2012.

It happens so fast.

Wow.

I mean, the things that they prepare you for, they just culturally move them.

And all of a sudden, all the standards, all the things that you used to believe are gone.

Everything that was solid is liquid one day.

And you're like, wow, how the hell did that happen?

And then you're getting booted off social media just for saying the thing that was everyone knew was true just a couple years ago.

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Apparently, Bernie's released some details about his tax proposal.

Yeah.

We talked about Elizabeth Warren yesterday at her 500.

No, 158% was all it was.

It's not 500%.

Just 158% of everything you make.

And to be clear, 500% is a little too high.

That's excessive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's more than your fair share.

158%, though.

That's reasonable.

I think it's too low, personally, because these bastard billionaires shouldn't even exist.

Right.

How about the time that they were like, they had Tom Steyer on the stage

and they tried to goad an argument out of the candidates.

They're like, you know, Elizabeth Warren says that billionaires should not even exist.

And Bernie Sanders says billionaires should not even exist.

Tom Steyer, how do you feel about that?

I too believe that billionaires shouldn't exist.

It's like, oh, shut up, you wuss.

I mean, that's just like, that's just pathetic.

But Bernie is a guy who's going to fund these plans, and he's honest about it.

But we know that Bernie is going to make sure that the rich are paying for this because how much money do you need?

You know what I mean?

And, you know, we say the rich, and sometimes that's a little difficult to define because there's not a number you put on that.

But Bernie was willing to actually put a number on it yesterday.

And he told you about the tax that's going to hit

you

if you happen to be rich.

Probably not you, because

the number is so high that how many Americans are going to be included in this tax?

Oh, I mean, it's top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1%.

Yeah.

It's just, I mean, when you hear the figure, you're going to laugh because you're going to realize

I could work my whole life and never earn that much money.

Yeah.

Right?

Well, here's Bernie explaining his plan.

Okay.

What we will do, what we will do is have a 4% tax on income, excepting the first $29,000.

All right, good people.

Wait, what?

You're better at arithmetic than I am.

Because what that means is if you are that average family in the middle

who makes $60,000 a year, that means we're going to tax you on $31,000 at 4%.

There you go.

So don't worry about it because

it's only the wealthiest.

93% of Americans.

Right.

Exactly.

And you're probably, if you're listening to the show right now, what are the odds that you happen to be in the wealthiest?

93%.

I mean, it's.

I mean, if you make $29,000,

you could afford to shave a little money off.

You're not even going to miss that 4%.

You won't miss it.

And you probably, like, if you're sitting in your car right now and you're like, I don't even know what it would be like to earn $29,000 a year.

It's too much money.

I mean, you've got a Bugatti.

You've got a Porsche.

Probably a Lamborghini.

A Lamborghini, a couple yachts.

You live in a 50,000 square foot home.

Yeah, probably.

On a hill somewhere.

40,000.

It depends what area.

If you're in Southern California, you could probably only afford 40,000 square feet.

But if you maybe are in the middle of the country, you get 50,000.

I mean, think about that.

That's $29,000.

Yeah, think about that.

If you could go to the bank, you could pull all that $29,000 out, you could lay it all out with individual ones, it would stack super high.

Maybe to the whole side.

I'll bet it'd be over an inch.

I'll bet it'd be over an inch high.

Maybe.

Not stack of bills.

And, I mean, now when you're raking all this cash in, I wasn't.

If you are the type of person out there and you live this lifestyle, if you make over $29,000 a year, I would love to hear your story.

Because I used to love Robin Leach doing lifestyle.

Lifestyles of the rich and famous.

Yeah, you remember?

Yeah.

And they would just go in and they'd just be like, look at this whole house is marble.

And then they have a slide to get down to their car.

These people make a whopping $29,000 a year.

I remember he said that how many times?

Oh, and you're like, oh, imagine if I could grow up and get to that level, you know, you would just be like, I'm so rich.

I actually want more taxes because I am having an issue counting my money.

It just piles up so fast.

And the guilt factor that you've taken so much from society.

Well, at some point,

you've made enough money.

It's true, and we've heard that many times.

Yes.

So if you happen to be one of these spectacular people among us that earn over, over $29,000 a year, we'd love to hear your story of wealth.

But beyond that, I think the truth here is that Bernie is at least being honest.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Can you imagine the balls?

$29,000.

You're adopted.

You're like $29,000.

$29,000?

That's the cutoff point?

And that means that this tax will hit literally everyone who is not in poverty.

That is like legitimately what happens here.

It's the poverty.

Probably $29,000 is probably the poverty.

May very well be.

It's close to it in some,

like in California, in New York.

It's probably more than that.

Yeah, it varies because, you know, it also varies on how many kids you have and whether you're married and all these different things.

But it's right around, it's right around here.

And then, like, that.

I will say, I do give him credit for actually blurting that out.

Yeah.

$29,000 a year, this tax will hit you, and you'll be paying more and more and more and more and more and more to the federal government until basically they just have the whole thing.

And that's just his wealth tax, right?

That's just a matter of time.

I think that was for the healthcare stuff.

So he's going to take, he's going to give you

four percent.

There's a 4%

tax.

It's actually four

for health care, right?

So they just take that out of your check and it goes into the health care

coffers.

And then what that does for you is, of course, you get to wait in line a really long time for your surgeries.

Yes.

Which is nice.

You get a place in line, though.

You're guaranteed a place in line.

Now, you might not ever get to the surgery.

You may die before the surgery.

Well, you might.

But you're in line.

Yeah.

And what else are they supposed to do?

Sometimes it only takes nine, ten months to get the surgery, though, that you need.

That's it.

Yeah.

That's it.

You can't wait nine or ten months.

This is what's happening in this country.

People are making $29,000 a year.

They're all spoiled.

And there are some services.

I was told

by my surgeon who did my neck surgery.

I don't think he makes $29,000 with that job, but he probably makes a good $15,000.

I think $15,000 to $16,000-ish.

But he said, he was saying,

because I started with

the injections,

to kind of calm it down and stuff.

It works for a few minutes, but then after a while, it goes away.

But anyway, he was saying, now, if you lived in Canada,

you couldn't even get it.

They don't even offer it.

They don't offer the injections?

You can't do it.

Yeah.

So got to, you've got to go directly to surgery immediately, even though the injection would be a heck of a lot cheaper and easier to do.

And

but they don't they don't do it.

Wow.

So you just suffer until you can get surgery and that's scheduled off, you know, six months in advance.

Yeah.

Look, I mean, that's nuts.

It's, it's ridiculous.

And, you know, the $29,000 thing is an incredible line.

I mean, look, you work your ass off for, I've worked many years for less than $29,000.

You know,

doing good, solid work is a great thing, and there's nothing to be ashamed of for making $29,000 a year.

You certainly shouldn't be attacked for it, though.

No.

You know, you shouldn't be attacked for having,

for being so wealthy that you're making $29,000 a year.

That's ridiculous.

And the idea that this is the solution to our healthcare problems is a real issue.

There's a place in Oklahoma.

that does

they decided to just kind of just change the way medicine is done.

And we talk about this free market healthcare thing all the time, but it never comes to fruition.

Well, they decided to just do it.

So it was a couple of doctors.

The main guy is an anesthesiologist, and they started this surgery center.

And they

now post all of the prices for their surgery online.

You go to their website.

All right, this one's $3,000.

That's how much it costs.

They don't take any insurance.

They don't deal with it at all.

You have to go in and you have to pay for it.

However, you know exactly what it costs, right?

right?

You know, and it's much cheaper than the other places around are

charging.

They don't jack up prices to try to get insurance money.

They don't do any of that.

They just, and they have highly qualified people who come in and do these things and they do them well.

Are they doing well?

And they're doing really well with it.

They're doing really well with it.

In fact,

I think it's been open for

15 or 18 years now.

Wow.

And they have not raised their prices since they opened.

Their prices are the same.

That's pretty amazing.

Opened.

Wow.

Think about that.

And here's something that it's in the real world.

It's actually happening.

It's working.

Is it dominating the conversation, even for conservatives?

No.

Why?

Instead, we're talking about, well, look, of course we have to keep all of these big programs that already exist, but let's not slightly expand them or really, really expand them.

That's the debate.

Oh, we're going to keep like Obamacare.

Like, remember there was a time, do you guys remember this?

When Republicans said getting rid of Obamacare was a priority?

When's the last time you heard anybody say that?

2016.

Now it's all, oh, well, of course we have to keep that.

But what we'd like to do is do this slight improvement here and there and try to change this or that.

You know, what happened?

Instead, now these things, it's everything we said about Obamacare is coming true.

It, first of all, hasn't worked.

Second of all, all, and we know, by the way, it was more expensive.

It's more expensive.

And we know it doesn't work because every single Democrat who is running for president against it.

They're all saying how bad it is that we have to improve it.

Now, they don't say it in those words, but they all have plans to double and triple the size of it or change it completely.

So we know they don't think it's worth it.

We also told you that was coming.

Yep.

That was the next step, in fact, is that.

It's a Trojan horse.

It's a Trojan horse.

Well, it's not really a Trojan horse, is it?

We're just saying it's right there.

It's right there.

We're telling you.

That's what the architect of the plan said.

Yes.

And nobody believed it.

And again.

Conspiracy theory.

Yeah.

And now we're to a point where

it has

changed from an issue that was very unpopular for Democrats to one that is now part of what we have.

We can't take it away from the people who need it.

It's no longer a thing where Republicans are even saying it needs to go away.

What they're saying is, well, look, it's there and we can't get rid of it, but we can improve, you know, this 1% of it.

That's what happens with these entitlements.

It becomes, as soon as people start getting it, then it becomes part of society, part of our social contract, which I don't remember signing.

Right.

And it is something that dominates.

Just like Medicare and Social Security.

Yeah.

Same thing.

I mean, there were at the time lots of conservatives who pointed out, hey, Social Security, that just sounds like a giant redistribution of wealth program yeah it's socialism and at the at its very best it sounds like the government forcing you to save and I love the fact that Democrats now say well Republicans were saying back back then that it was socialism yeah yeah and they were because it was and it is and people might have gotten used to it now and so even some Republicans love it now because it's very popular these programs yeah well of course they are you made it part of their life the average person gets more than two times the amount that they put in out of Social Security, and Medicare is even worse.

I mean, Medicare is absolutely the main thing bankrupting this country right now.

And, you know, the fact that they don't even means test it, that Bill Gates can get Medicare if he wants, is completely ridiculous.

We all understand that there's a good motivation behind that program, but maybe if you didn't take our money, our entire lives, and spent it on crap, we'd be able to pay for our own retirement.

We'd be able to pay for our own insurance after we retire.

You know, instead, we have these programs, and I think a completely underrated worst president of all time nominee is Lyndon Johnson.

Never gets, never gets the attention he deserves when you talk about the worst presidents in U.S.

history, but he deserves that title.

He's definitely down there.

Yeah, he's definitely down there.

Yeah, he is.

And he created all these programs that are creating all this debt.

And now we have Democrats creating even more programs that will double and triple down on these ideas that didn't work.

And Republicans barely bring it up anymore.

I mean,

you do not hear Republicans make arguments about debt and deficit anymore.

No, you don't.

It's just not a thing right now.

And it's embarrassing.

It's embarrassing.

Because if these things actually mattered to us, and I know we've made these arguments, I know people in the audience are making these arguments all the time.

But,

you know, if you didn't believe it then and you were making the arguments, then you're just playing the same crappy brand of politics that every politician plays.

If you care about the debt and the deficit, people in Washington right now deserve heat for it because they're not addressing it at all.

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Well, that super ultra right-wing conservative Supreme Court again struck again

and allowed a prominent climate scientist to pursue a defamation lawsuit against a conservative magazine and a think tank that compared him to a convicted child molester.

So

here goes.

They're just so conservative.

So conservative.

These justices.

Actually, they didn't really rule on it.

They just said they're not going to hear it.

They're not going to hear the case.

I mean, like, there's no way you can win this lawsuit, can you?

I mean, it's

so ridiculous.

But I mean, it shouldn't even be able to.

I guess you could sue for whatever you want, and maybe that's kind of the standard.

Maybe.

But comparing someone to something,

that's not a lawsuit.

That's not a lawsuit.

It's not.

No.

It's not.

But they're doing it.

Is it Michael Mann?

it's yeah of course it is michael man michael mann uh well known for his litigious nature uh reportedly he's the one that came up with the hockey stick theory yeah right yeah and what are they is it um is this the national review they're going after national review and what's the competitive enterprise institute

yeah yeah i mean look this is you know in my opinion

thank you there you go in my opinion is just a way to intimidate people to get in line right if you if you if you can figure out a a way to sue people into silence,

that's what they desperately want to do because

they can't afford to have any pushback on their nonsense because it is just that.

A lot of it is just nonsense.

I mean, you can't get them to tell you, where's the catastrophe here?

Where is that occurring?

I see weather events that have always happened.

I don't see the catastrophic weather necessarily.

I mean, we do have floods.

We do have tornadoes.

We have hurricanes.

But we have

charts that show that they're not increasing.

Right.

I mean,

there's a lot of scary stuff out there, but it's amazing how the media maintains this idea that it's the right wing that's fear-mongered.

Like, it's us, right?

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You know, Glenn was talking about the George Soros initiative, where they're doing the civil society in places all over the world, kind of sponsored by our State Department.

and

bringing revolution to countries all over.

Well,

coincidentally, there are a lot of revolutions kind of taking place right now.

A lot of discontent and upheaval all over the planet all of a sudden.

From Chile to Sudan, Lebanon to Colombia, mounting anger and frustration, and

people are sick of what's going on.

But, for instance,

in Chile,

they were upset that the subway prices went up.

Four cents.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

Four cents.

Yeah, you can't.

I mean, come on.

Well, I mean.

Four cents?

That's ridiculous.

Remember,

this is not a society filled with people making $29

a year.

That is true.

But you would think, would a four-cent price increase trigger

a revolution?

Not normally.

Yeah.

We've come a long way from like

Archduke Ferdinand being killed.

Now it's like, yeah, four cents?

Four cents.

No, get your gun.

Get the pitchforks.

I mean, this stuff builds on

itself, though, right?

Like, there's a million problems they have with their government, and then there's that one little thing that lights the fire.

And as Glenn would point out, a lot of times when that fire is lit, the structure's there to make it into a revolution.

Right.

And that's where the civil society thing comes in.

In Colombia, tens of thousands of Colombians upset with their president, economic inequality took to the streets

amid growing unrest in all of South America.

In Iraq, more than 300 people, including at least 13 just Sunday, have died during demonstrations that have gripped Baghdad and Shiite Muslim-dominated provinces since October 1st.

300 people dead in that unrest.

They're upset with the hike in oil prices and gas in their country.

In Lebanon, what started as a protest against

a tax on WhatsApp.

So this is about an app?

They're taxing your app?

Basically

taxing texts.

Yeah.

WhatsApp is just a communication app, if you don't happen to use it.

Well, that morphed into 4 million people taking to the streets last month.

Four

million people took to the streets because of the tax on the app.

And this is an undersold part of big government and socialism in particular because the same types of things have happened in Venezuela.

And it's like, well, Venezuela would say, okay, well, we're taking over the oil industry because we're a socialist.

So they take over the oil industry.

It starts to kind of fall apart.

And what's their answer to that?

Well, they say, well, what we're going to do is lower prices on oil, gas, so that people can afford it.

And they continue to do it, which leads to the infrastructure breaking down because they don't have enough money to actually run the thing.

And it gets down to the point where, like, I know relatively recently, gas in Venezuela was like 12 cents a gallon.

Right.

It was like legitimately 12 cents a gallon.

So it was like water.

Like, no, I mean, unfortunately, they didn't have water to drink, but it was almost like water.

And it's been like that for a long time.

And it's been like that for a long time.

And here's the thing: once you get to down that low, just like we were talking about last hour with entitlements and Obamacare, you can't raise it.

So when it comes to the point where now it is a, you know, it's so low that you can't afford it because the economy is shaken apart in other ways or whatever it is, you can't bring that money up or you get this.

Your four cent rise in the subway causes a revolution.

So

it becomes a situation where all they can do is target business owners and target the wealthy and target anybody who will keep them in power for another day.

And that's why you wind up a lot of times with a bunch of people dying because

you either have to suppress this type of revolution or you lose your country.

And people like socialists who are all about government power don't want to risk these things.

They want to stay in power at all costs.

So why not take out a few couple, a few million people to make sure that that happens?

It becomes a rational decision in their minds.

And it's scary because it is happening all over the world.

And you have outsiders stoking the flame.

And so it's going on in the Sudan as well.

In Iran, I mean, all over the all over the planet, this is starting.

Things are breaking down.

And,

you know, you've got opportunists taking advantage of all of that.

And it's becoming kind of a dangerous situation.

Well, it's a tough thing to manage, right?

Yeah.

If you can't manage the Obamacare website, I'm not sure you're going to be able to manage multiple revolutions around the world.

Really?

Right?

Like, it just doesn't seem,

I mean, you've had a long time to figure the post office thing out and the DMV and all the standard complaints with government that people have.

The fact that you think you can monitor and micromanage other revolutions in different cultures all around the world.

It's nuts.

Yeah, it's nuts.

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Maxine Waters is an interesting character.

We love her because she gives us incredible amounts of material.

I mean, she's basically a fountain of youth for talk radio material.

No matter what you have, you can always say, what did Maxine say yesterday?

It's always going to be something dumb.

You always have that there.

You can always find whatever it is, and you can do an entire show about it.

So here is Maxine.

This is the most recent example.

She's talking about Ben Carson, and I believe it was MSNBC.

Listen.

Well, you know, I sent him a letter, and he sent me a letter, you know, claiming that I had no manners, et cetera.

I basically said to my staff, I really don't have time to be bothered with somebody who doesn't know the difference between REO REO and OEO.

I mean, you know, this guy just doesn't have the background, the capability, the intelligence to do the job.

He doesn't know what he's doing.

He doesn't care about this issue.

He rises to the occasion to basically support this president any opportunity that he gets.

And so I'm going to be so happy when they're all out of here.

They're hurting our country.

They're undermining our democracy.

And they're being very discouraged.

We don't have a democracy.

And I hope the American people can see that if we allow this president and his cabinet to get away with what they're doing, they will be destroying the presidency and that office forever.

Oh, my gosh.

I'm sorry.

Is she calling a black man stupid?

She does.

She is.

A black neurosurgeon.

Wow.

She's calling a neurosurgeon

stupid.

Huh.

That's a fascinating, fascinating claim.

Now, Ben Carson, you can say you don't like his policies.

You can say you don't like it.

You don't like his demeanor.

Maybe he's a little too sleepy for you.

Yeah, I can see that.

But not intelligent.

But not intelligent.

That does not compute, especially from someone like Maxine Waters.

How many dumb neurosurgeons do you know?

Oh, tons.

Tell you, man.

If I've seen one,

one of the fastest-growing segments of our population are dumb neurosurgeons.

People don't know that.

They're all over the place.

Just doing their neurosurgery in a dumb way.

That's what they do.

Every day they wake up and just go in there and they just do complicated neurosurgery.

Just messing around in your brain, and they're too stupid to know which parts of the brain to connect or remove.

Yeah.

I mean, base, if you've ever, you know, if you ever watch The Simpsons, Ben Carson's basically Dr.

Nick.

He's the guy who comes out and

he just kind of fumbles his way through all the surgeries, and it's just, it's just loving and hilarious.

Oh, you've paralyzed me.

Ah,

that's Ben Carson.

Now, it's weird because I've seen he's won all these awards and all these incredible things that no one had ever done before in the field.

But he's basically just a moron.

And I guess he just lucked his way into fixing all those people.

What a great story.

And separating Siamese twins at the brain.

How hard is that, though?

You need scissors.

What's the big deal?

I mean, you put scissors in between them and you come.

I don't know.

I mean, how hard could it be?

Just as a moron.

Any moron could do that.

You go to Home Depot, you get some hedge clippers.

Right.

And you just

snip, snip, snip.

Done.

And then they're separated.

And you say, nurse, sew them back up.

Yeah.

Because I bet he's not even doing the sewing.

I bet he's not.

I bet he's not.

You got a little sewing machine.

You put their heads under there.

You press the pedal.

I don't know how it works exactly with something like that.

It's just like any moron could do it.

It's not that big of a deal.

Right.

So she makes a really good point there, obviously.

She's made a lot of really good points over the years though.

As far as I'm concerned, the Tea Party can go straight to hell.

They say to me all the time, you appear to be angry.

If you black and American, you're not a little bit mad, you crazy.

Stop sending those dog whistles to white supremacists.

Today we declare we're not taking it anymore.

This liberal will be all about socializing.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Will be about

something else.

Something else.

Something else.

What is the word?

What's the word?

What's the word?

Basically.

Basically.

Taking over.

Taking over.

And the government running all of your companies.

Keep your nasty comments away from us.

We are rallying and we are protesting.

You don't intimidate us.

You don't scare us.

We're going to fight against you and your policies.

We're going to struggle.

We're going to do everything necessary to show you you cannot take this country down the path that you think you're gonna take it down.

Don't ever let me see

again in life

those Republicans in our hall

on our screens talking about anything.

That's a restriction.

These are demons.

They're demons.

Demons.

Okay.

Literally demonizing.

These are legislators who are destroying this country.

Man.

So she's...

she knows.

Are they demons or are they legislators trying to destroy the country?

I feel like those are two moderately different things.

She is one of these people that just

opens the mouth and about

two minutes after she's done speaking, tries to figure out what she's saying.

There's no plan going in.

You know, it's like it's like, you know, it's like Ben Carson with his neurosurgery.

He doesn't know what he's doing when he goes in there.

He just starts cutting, as we mentioned.

Start cutting things and connecting tubes and see what happens.

You know, does the person walk afterwards?

I don't know.

Maybe, maybe not.

We'll see.

That's Ben Carson.

The guy just, you know, he just is just a haphazard guy when it comes to his neurosurgery.

I mean, it's unbelievable.

It is.

And

one really interesting clip that you played there was Maxine Waters, and she does this all the time, saying essentially,

well, they always call black people angry.

And that's, of course, we we should be angry.

But there's that sort of undercurrent there of if you call, if you criticize a black person,

then you don't like black people.

You see, oh, they're all angry.

Only black people are angry.

And this is very standard left-wing procedure.

It's the same thing they do with Soros, right?

It's like, well, George Soros, you're only criticizing him because he's Jewish.

The fact that he, and by the way, he is an atheist, but the, you know, I mean, like,

no one has, there's no criticism of him because he's Jewish.

Like, that's nothing to do with it.

There's no part of that that connects.

That's you.

That is you coming up with that conclusion.

Not me.

It's you.

It's your saying, oh, well, it must be because he's Jewish.

Well, why are you saying that?

Right.

That's not what we're saying.

Why are you saying it?

And with Waters, it's the same thing here where she absolutely will criticize any Republican who criticizes an African-American, and she'll say it's because of race.

But here she is criticizing an African-American, calling him stupid.

It's perfectly fine.

Yeah.

You know, I kind of tend to think that the color of your skin should not dictate whether that's okay.

Right?

You should be able to criticize anyone you want, no matter what the color of their skin is, as long as you're not criticizing them for the color of their skin.

Now you're making crazy talk.

Back in the 60s with MLK.

That guy said kind of the same thing you just did.

It's insane.

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We have a major problem in our country, Pat, which is we have, I believe, 607 billionaires in this nation, and only three are running for president right now.

We need to get that number up.

I want to get it to at least half.

I mean, are they, they just don't care about their country?

The other 604

just don't care.

They don't care.

Wow.

You know, they're just fumbling their way through neurosurgery, probably, with bed cars.

That's what they're doing.

Mark Cuban is making some noise.

Now, I don't think he's jumping in

to run for president.

I mean, can we possibly have any more people who are running for president?

Well, we could.

I guess we could.

I keep saying we can't.

And then Duval Patrick jumps in.

Yes.

And then Michael Bloomberg jumps in.

Who else has jumped in recently?

Steyer jumped in late.

Yeah.

There has been, it just keeps, they keep coming.

The rumors

persist that maybe Hillary gets in.

I don't know.

I don't believe that.

Yeah.

I believed it for a while.

I'm not sure now.

We're past the filing deadlines in New Hampshire.

But not Iowa.

That's not until the end of the, I think the end of the year, like December 30th or something.

Is it really that late?

I think it is.

So you'd have to skip New Hampshire if you wanted, which is what Bloomberg is doing.

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know if Duval Patrick qualified, but I mean,

I guess he probably must have because that's his only chance of competing.

I mean, this is the next-door state, even though he still has no chance.

Mark Cuban was asked because people noticed at Yahoo Finance that he had registered democracy.com.

Now, he's not doing anything with it,

but it's democracy.com.

And the question was: well, what are you planning to do with democracy.com?

He says, Cuban says that he registered it because he didn't want it to be used by someone with a political agenda.

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What?

What?

That's what he said.

Okay.

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you should see all the domains I own.

I rarely sell any.

And when he was pressed about it, he said, and you can do this, you can play along right now.

If you're in front of your computer, if you're on your phone right now, play along here, Pat.

Okay, I'm going to play along.

Go to thepresident.com.

Thepresident.com.

Just having a tough time.

Thepresident.com.

All right.

Oh, it's Access TV.

It's his website.

Magnolia Pictures.

It's Cuban Companies.

All the Cuban companies.

Yeah.

So he acts.

Can you imagine this guy runs for president and his website is thepresident.com?

That's a solid marketing tactic.

Very weird.

I don't know.

I mean, I feel like Trump has opened this door up and all these guys think they can be president now.

Do you think

he's considering?

I do think, I mean, he's talked about

enough.

And he's talked about the fact that he can beat Trump.

He thinks.

He thinks so.

He thinks he can.

There's no way he could, but he thinks he could.

I don't know where he fits exactly because he, you know, they talked for a while.

They're like, oh, he's a libertarian.

He's not a libertarian.

He's not a libertarian.

But he's also, and he's not really a Republican.

And he's certainly with this field, definitely not a Democrat.

I mean, he doesn't, he's, he'd be way into the right of a Michael Bloomberg.

Yeah.

You know, I think so.

He is a legitimately pro-business guy, but has a lot of policies that, you know, we wouldn't like as conservatives, you know, big health care initiatives and all the other, all the rest.

But, I mean, at least he's, he, he has the same,

the things that you like about Trump where he's a guy who is a business person and understands those things.

He has those attributes, but we already have that guy in office, right?

Yeah.

So I don't know what the thirst would be for a Mark Cuban candidacy at this point.

And again, if you're a billionaire, why do you want that job?

Oh, gosh.

I haven't even talked about

it.

A mega patriot, and you believe you're the only one who can fix it.

I can understand you taking the shot then, but why would you want this hassle?

Why would you open up yourself to all of this madness?

I wouldn't want anything to do with it.

If I was a billionaire, I'm just enjoying my life.

I'm not running for president.

I mean, you know, and you know, I mean, you don't have to be a billionaire.

You just have to be massively wealthy to understand that, like, earning over $29,000 a year.

If you are.

I can only dream.

I can only dream about that.

Yeah, no, that's never going to happen.

No.

But Bernie Sanders thinks you're rich at $29K a year.

I mean, I think Mark might earn more than that.

It's possible.

But when you're a billionaire, think of your life, right?

Every decision you've made works out.

Everything that you think is smart is smart, and everyone tells you is smart.

Like, it's understandable why you'd think you'd be the only guy who could fix whatever problem you're addressing.

Yeah.

And I'm sure that's why Bloomberg's in there.

Trump himself said that's why he was in there.

Steyer, I'm sure, is the same way.

And Cuban's probably the same way.

I mean, you could find, we could get to a point where everybody running for president is a billionaire.

We're not that far away, kids.

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It is Pat and Stu.

And for Glenn, this week, are you familiar with this cameo app?

I'm not.

No.

So it's very, it's an interesting app.

Basically,

it's an app you can go on there and search for your favorite celebrity.

And when I say celebrity, many times I would use air quotes when I was saying celebrity.

So it's like, you know, that, you know, the third third person Jason killed in Friday the 13th, part four?

Yeah.

That guy is almost definitely on there.

Was it the teenager in the forest who got the harpoon through his skull?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I love him.

And the good thing was that wasn't real.

It was a movie.

So he's still alive.

Hasn't done a movie since.

Okay.

And is available on Cameo.

So he hasn't learned his lesson about making out in the woods.

Oh, okay.

Sadly.

Sadly, the guy just makes out in the woods all the time.

But he can get whoever he wants.

He makes over $29,000 a year.

So this guy can get any lady he wants.

And I kind of be honest about it.

He can't be that rich, can he?

No, I don't think so.

So he may not be

when you talk about what cameo is.

So cameo is this idea that you go on, you search for your favorite celebrity, and they will make a video for you.

A greeting.

You can send whoever we want.

And this happens to us sometimes because we are actually below the cameo level of celebrity.

But like people who are fans of the show will say, Hey, will you send a message to my sister?

It's her birthday and she loves the show and she loves you guys.

Will you send him a message?

I'd love to for a price, yes.

Well, yeah, and that's what we do.

We should give us some cash, and of course, the answer is yes.

No, I mean, we do that for people here and there, and it's uh, it's one of those things that's kind of cool.

Like, I, you know, I shows that I like, I would love to get one of those things, it would be kind of cool.

So, that's basically what Cameo does.

It

sets up a market, it uses this thing called capitalism, and it sets up a market for celebrities basically post

their availability and what price they will make a video for you.

So if you, you know, example, if you like the office, there's a few people from the office who are on cameo and you can pay them, you know, like a hundred bucks or something like that.

I think it's like a couple hundred bucks maybe for people on the office.

And they'll cut a video for your friend who really likes the office.

Right.

It's kind of a cool idea.

It's an easy way for celebrities to throw a couple bucks in their pocket.

And it's kind of a nice way to connect with their fans.

That's the concept.

So they have everybody from

people you'd never know all the way up to some big sports celebrities are on there, like

big actors, actresses, musicians, all sorts of things.

One of the people on there is Mark McGrath.

He is the lead singer of Sugar Ray.

Sugar Ray.

Are they still around?

I mean, I think they're around in that they probably do.

you know, retro tours and stuff.

Carnivals.

He does

state fairs.

He's done a decent amount, though.

He's done like countdown shows, and I want to say he hosted

Access Hollywood or one of those types of shows for a while.

He's done a decent amount with his career after Sugar Ray, and I think it's still pretty active.

But he is on Cameo and recently got a request to cut a video.

And I think it's the first one of these I've ever seen before.

Here's Mark McGrath.

on cameo from a specific request from a woman who is dating a guy long distance.

Listen.

What's up, Brayden?

It is Mark McGrath from the band Sugaray off the charts, but always in your hearts.

And this cameo was booked by Cheyenne, and she wants you to know a few things.

And this is a little difficult for me to say because it's the first one of these I've done, but she wants you to know that you mean a lot to her.

You mean the world to her, but she's having difficulty staying in this distance relationship you know it's tough i've been on the road for years and i've been with my wife a long time and the biggest arguments the biggest you know obstacles in our relationships is the distance between us it makes it very difficult when we're on the road um and it's hard so cheyanne is trying to let you know brayden that it's very very tough for her to stay in this relationship she still cares about you a lot you never know what the future may hold and she still wants to be friends with you because obviously she cares about you very, very much.

Well, obviously.

Good luck on your thesis coming up.

Good luck on your thesis.

Probably not the best timing, Cheyenne, when he's doing his thesis.

But I understand.

You know, you got to work on your thesis and life goes on.

And

I'm sure there's big things ahead of you in the future, Brayden.

But Cheyenne cares about you enough to let you know that she's thinking about you.

But the long distance thing is just a little difficult for her.

Okay.

And she wants you to stay positive.

She wants you to be friends.

And she knows that

you're a fan of the band Sugar A, which I'm honored.

I wish I was delivering you good news.

Yeah, but you're going to see you backstage, give you a high five someday, dude.

And we can maybe laugh about this sometimes.

Hopefully, we all can.

Cheyenne, Brayden, all of us.

We all can hang out.

But she wants me friends right now, bro.

The long-distance thing is a little difficult.

Yeah, you know what?

But she wishes you nothing but the best.

All the love in the world.

And

do, do, do, do, do your best on that thesis, man.

I know it's that it's tough in the holiday season, and um,

just weird stuff, man.

But you've got big things ahead of you, bro.

Yeah, but she wants to be famous.

Friends, right?

Yeah, you've got a good life in front of you.

All right, on behalf of Mark McGrath and Cheyenne, we love you, Brayden.

Apparently, she does not love him,

but she cares about him enough to have somebody else break up with him for her.

And I guess this cost about $150

to get Mark McGrath to break up with your boyfriend for you.

Wow.

That is where we are in this society.

I love his analysis is interesting.

I mean, the poor guy, he's just trying to get his $150 and get through this thing, right?

I mean, you can't blame the guy, I guess.

That's his first one.

What a tough one to do for your first.

And I love he said, what does he say at the end?

Look, if you're doing a thesis, that means you've got good things ahead of you.

That's not true at all.

Not necessarily.

That's not as necessary.

It might be true.

But it might not.

What if your thesis is on how great it is to be a white supremacist?

You don't have great things ahead of you at all.

And

that is like awesome.

Think of how many steps removed that is from the way things are supposed to be done.

Like, there is a world in which, you know, you're supposed to, if you're breaking up with someone, you're supposed to do it in person, right?

Yes.

If you're not going to do it in person, you've got to do it over the phone.

You're not going to do it over a phone.

You got to do it.

You go to email.

You're not going to do it over email.

You go to text.

You're going to do it over text.

I don't know.

You're on like Snapchat.

If you get through all of those things and you still can't do it, then you pay $150 to the guy for Sugar Ray to break up for you.

The guy who had, what, two hits in 1998?

That's

I gotta say, I think Sugar Ray did better than that.

I think they had more hits than that.

Did they?

Yeah, I think so.

They had a little run there.

I'm gonna look up Sugar Ray.

I'm looking them up right now.

Because I'm telling you.

So, Sugar Ray Discography.

All right.

This is what people want.

Every morning.

Okay, Every Morning went to number three.

When it's over.

Someday went to number seven.

Someday was great.

That's a great song.

Falls apart.

I don't really remember.

It was

29.

When it's over,

29 is not a hit.

That's not a hit.

So we got three and seven, right?

That's two hits.

When it's over was kind of a hit.

Where'd that?

13.

13.

Nominal.

Yeah.

Nominal.

15.

We'll give him that.

I'll say it wasn't as good as I would have imagined.

Three, yeah.

So they had three?

Again, if they had five, it would be 200 bucks to break up with a boyfriend.

But since they only had two and a half, it's only $150.

$150.

I mean, that is a weird thing to do.

For a guy like Mark McGrath, who's pretty well known.

I mean, say what you will about Sugar Ray.

You're right.

He's been on game shows or talk shows or something.

I mean, he's had a career.

of some note, right?

Yeah.

I mean, you know who he is, certainly.

They sold

several million records, and he's doing breakups with your boyfriend from afar for $150 a piece.

There's two ways to look at this, right?

Wow.

That way.

Which is a legitimate way to look at this.

Yes.

The other thing is it took him two minutes and he made $150.

Now, I don't know.

There's a lot of things that I, I mean, $150 for two minutes.

That's not, I mean, that's okay.

It's a pretty good rate.

It is.

If you're doing them all day long.

Right, he's not.

I doubt you are.

People are thinking, you know who I want to break up for me is Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray.

A lot of people aren't thinking that.

He was the co-host of Extra.

That's the show I was thinking of.

Which is a pretty

pretty big gig, right?

Does it say

Extra?

Let's see.

Yeah, that is a good gig.

He was probably making decent money for that.

And he did a lot of these, like, you know, Rock and Roll Jeopardy and all these other Celebrity Apprentice Season 4.

Oh.

So he's on with Trump then.

That's kind of cool.

At one point, yeah.

He was from 2004 to 2008.

Oh, man.

He left Extra to focus on his music career.

Oh.

Oh, boy.

Oh, wow.

God darn it.

Probably not the best.

It didn't really go anywhere.

Yeah, and he was guest judge on American Idol.

But these are all like 2005 things that he was doing.

That's a problem.

When people still remembered Sugar Ray.

I think we should start recording.

We should just get cameos and start playing them on the show.

And we can expense them to Glenn.

We should try to get liberals on cameo to say nice things about Glenn.

I like that idea.

This is a way for Glenn to kind of cross over.

Yeah.

We'll just keep...

Can we put things in there?

Like, can we get a known liberal to endorse Donald Trump on video?

Yes.

There's got to be somebody who, some Hollywood celebrity who will do it for like $18.

What's interesting is when you Google Mark McGrath on the first page of the Google search results, three of the eight results are Sugar Ray's Mark McGrath calls Cameo Breakup Video.

He calls somebody paid Sugar Ray's Mark McGrath to dump someone's boyfriend.

Yeah, well, it's a big, it's a news story that happened, I think, this week, right?

So it's going to be up near the top.

But I mean, that's what he's mostly known for right now.

Now you could get these things all the time.

What's the most awkward thing you could request?

I think that's a...

That was pretty awkward.

What we just saw there was pretty awkward.

I wouldn't want to do anything more awkward than that.

Not for $150.

No.

Now, look, as a person who one day wants to earn up to $29,000 a year, it's easy to toss away $150.

I mean, $150 is nice.

But if you're a big celebrity, you'd think you wouldn't want to necessarily do that.

Right.

Yes.

Because that doesn't ⁇ you know, it looks,

I don't know, small time.

Yeah.

Right.

It doesn't look like you're a major star for sure.

No.

And think about the other side of this.

Like you,

you are, you open up your email or whatever, and you get a link in there to a video from a guy who's the lead singer of the band that you like.

And he starts off, he's all excited.

And then about 30 seconds in, you realize you're getting dumped.

That sucks, man.

Especially if you're a sugary fan, like apparently he was.

And that's why she hired him.

That was a nice way to let him down.

Hey, here's one of your heroes breaking up with you.

Weird, weird situation.

What a world we live in.

It's a really strange reality right now.

But this is going to work out well, I think.

Yeah, I think it is.

All these changes, we're going to totally be able to handle them.

I think so.

I think so.

Everything's fine.

Don't worry about it.

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Some millennials want to bring an end to the secret Santa office holiday tradition because

it gives them anxiety.

And you don't want to give anybody anxiety.

A British job hunting website reported that millennials find the Secret Santa gift exchange to be anxiety-inducing.

And Dr.

Ashley Weinberg, a psychology lecturer, believes it's the fear of appearing stingy that makes the holiday tradition stressful for them.

And you don't want anything to be stressful for these millennials.

You don't want them to have anxiety.

You don't want them to have stress because,

well, they fall apart and they got to go into a cry room or a safe space when that happens.

And you don't want that.

I mean, getting presence isn't a safe enough space?

This is so ridiculous.

I will say, like, it doesn't cause me anxiety, but it isn't my favorite thing.

No, mine either.

It's just mine either.

I'm fine with them banning that.

The study found 78%

of millennials felt they contributed more than they should to an office party gift compared to 58% of the rest of the workforce.

Probably anything for some of them is more than they should.

I hate it.

I hate it so much, said Jillian Melly in a recent episode of her show on Fox, after the show show on Fox Nation.

People spend too much money

as it is around the holidays, so why are we adding to it?

Maybe you should have the conversation with your coworkers.

Let's just not do it.

Just too much anxiety.

These things start off, you know, and we like traditions, right?

We're conservatives.

that's something that we like.

But a lot of these things turn into traditions and just become hassles, right?

Like, that's true.

No one cares.

Like, look, there's no reason for you to be exchanging presents with your coworkers.

If you like them, you like them, you get them something, but you don't, the secret stand of thing is ridiculous.

I know, we've all got enough family members to worry about, right?

Right.

And really close friends.

You don't need to do that.

You're right.

With your coworkers.

This is the problem, though.

Like, because you do exchange presents maybe with your close friends, if you don't get presents for people at work then you're like saying they're not your close friends

which is again it's silly right you should not it's not the type of thing that makes any sense you know you you but it's already enough again it only a millennial would would describe it as anxiety but it's it's just irritating you know i mean like there's enough to do

you know during the holidays if you show up at a party i feel like it's almost like a charitable donation to go to a Christmas party.

Like, I just want to stay home in my bed.

Me too.

You know?

Me too.

At 7 p.m.

bedtime, wake up around 11 a.m.

Have breakfast, lunch, and quick order.

Is that so wrong?

Is that so wrong?

Is that so wrong?

So I don't want to get up at any point during the day.

So what?

There's nothing wrong with me.

It's you as the problem.

I think I'm going to be calling in sick to the Christmas party this year.

Oh, no, really?

Yeah, I'm feeling something coming on.

Wow, but it's it's weeks away.

I know, but this usually lasts

two, three weeks.

Now I'm in the same room with you.

I probably haven't.

But you probably haven't.

Oh, God.

Now I can feel it.

Oh, no.

Oh, dang it.

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One more hour left.

Chad Prayther is going to be joining us, of course,

from the Blaze TV.

He's got an Epstein special going on tonight.

In fact, this whole week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

And

he's really going deep into the weird crap Epstein was into.

That's kind of his angle on it.

It's interesting, for whatever reason, the Blaze has just turned Thanksgiving into Epstein Week.

Yeah.

And I don't think it was intentional.

I think it's just a bunch of people just interested in the story kind of doing something on it at the same time.

It's just a little bit of an odd way to celebrate the holiday, but

you know,

interesting.

Interesting.

Because you're going to find out some fascinating things about Epstein and the kind of cult he was sort of doing.

Some weird, weird stuff.

Yeah.

That didn't get a lot of press,

but kind of deserves it, I guess.

But didn't you have a new stat on

Bill Clinton's involvement with him?

Yeah, so he, yeah, they they said he had a lot of people are saying 26 27 times he was on the plane.

It's actually only six times he was on the plane and he never went to the island.

There's no evidence he went to the island.

Now again, it's a private island.

Who knows if he actually went there, but there's no evidence he actually went to the island.

And he was only on the plane with him six times.

Six times.

But still, it's more than me.

Yeah.

I'll tell you that.

Me too.

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Patton Stu for Glenn on the Glenbeck program, triple eight seven two seven B E C K.

Hey,

some good news because

CBS

is going to produce a drama based on Stacey Abrams' romance novels.

Wait, now Stacey Abrams, the true

true governor of Georgia.

Georgia.

Georgia.

Yes.

The election was stolen from her.

And even though she lost by 50,000 votes, it was stolen from her.

I will say this, too.

You bastards out there who think if Trump loses, it could be fixed.

And you're going to complain about this afterwards.

You bastards.

By the way, Stacey Abrams is the rightful governor of Georgia.

The fact that the left continually, Elizabeth Warren Warren just says it.

She said the other day, it was like, oh, well, it's actually Stacey Abrams' seat and it was taken from her.

Like, no, that is not what happened.

That is not what happened.

She

lost.

She lost the election.

It's over.

Get over it.

They can't.

They can't.

They won't.

So.

In 2004, she published a book, and she's done several since, but this one was under the name Selena Montgomery, one of eight novels she's written under that name.

The book was entitled Never Tell, and it follows the tale of a criminal psychologist with a dark past who works with an investigative journalist who is searching for a serial killer in New Orleans.

So CBS is doing a full series on this.

Pretty amazing.

We were able to get a few excerpts from a few of her books, not just Never Tell, but we do have that as well.

I'm interested in this because this is something the left gets to do that the right would never be able to do.

Right.

Like,

no one cares

about

Stacey Abrams and her romance novels.

Nobody cares about them.

No one.

There's no reason for this series to exist.

Right?

There's absolutely no chance of it being good.

Nobody's ever heard of Stacey Abrams' romance novels.

How much money did Netflix give Barack Obama to produce television shows?

Well, some rumors have it at $100 million, others at $50 million, but whatever it was, it was

tens of millions of dollars.

For what?

What have they proved?

Well, they did that Chinese thing, you know, the Chinese companies in America, or Chinese workers in America.

What was it called?

I don't know.

I did not watch it, so I don't remember the title.

But yeah, they got a lot of money for that.

A lot of money for that.

Now we'll see.

You're going to really be excited about the series when you hear

her incredible writing skill.

These are a few sentences I can read out of paragraphs.

This one from Sebastian Kane and Dr.

Caitlin Leida in Secrets and Lies.

Her book, Secrets and Lies.

Sounds saucy.

And this is a paragraph.

I can read part of one sentence.

Wow.

Yeah.

Not the full sentence.

No, I can't.

No.

But

with urgency, she accepted him, fascinated by the power.

And for a moment, she wavered, wondering if she was prepared.

In the next second, she knew she never could be.

Tell me that's not powerful.

Tell me.

Really bad versions of

the trash at like airports.

Yes.

That you get it at a.

Yes.

With Fabio on the cover?

The $5 rack

at an airport.

And I guess this has been 50 Shades of Gray has made this into a somewhat of an industry.

Is that what she's going for here?

I think so, yeah.

Now, from her book, Hidden Sins,

there are two sentences I can read from a paragraph.

Oh.

Yeah, so this is exciting.

These are full sentences.

Watch me love you.

He commanded silently.

Wait, how did he

come?

Wait, he commanded silently?

Wait, hold on.

Wait, watch me love you.

Watch me love you.

He commanded silently.

That's a good point.

I guess with his look.

Yeah, but you could do a steely gaze.

You could say, hey, come over here silently.

Because you could wave your arm.

How would you say, what is it again?

Watch me love you.

Watch me love you.

No, you're supposed to just get that from the look he's giving you.

What is that look?

I don't know what that expression is.

It's a lot of expressions.

I'm not a human face.

I'm not going to attempt it here on radio channels.

Please don't.

I don't want you to watch it.

It would be obscene.

It'd be obscene.

Okay.

And I'm not going to do it.

But.

Watch me love you.

He commanded silently.

Like, she just came up with, she had a random collection of words that she just thought silently went there.

Like, he has to do that audibly.

He can only command that audibly.

Yeah, but you let me get to the next sentence.

I can't get past the silently thing.

It's driving me crazy.

Know that I will always be a part of you.

Now, I don't know if he actually spoke that out loud.

He doesn't say, or if that was silently as well.

You know, all good writers explain that completely.

Yes.

They do.

They do.

They always say exactly how they commanded a thing, if it's audibly or silently.

And she didn't do that here.

It's a big mistake.

Right.

First thing you learn in writing class: make sure you say how people are commanded.

Are they commanded audibly or are they commanded silently?

Who knows?

This is on the level of,

are you familiar with the podcast,

My Dad Wrote a Porno?

No.

No.

It is amazing.

The story is

this guy finds out that his dad has been writing these types of books.

He just decided because of 50 Shades of Gray to start writing

an X-rated novel.

This guy's dad.

So what they decided to do for a podcast is for all of them, and I think it's an HBO show now, too.

It's a really big podcast, but they decided to do is it's like three people, and they just sit around, and they he reads the entire book.

Think of your dad, and it's really filthy.

I mean, it is filthy, but horribly written.

Like Stacey Abrams-level writing.

So it's really funny.

So he's making fun of his dad.

He's making fun of his dad.

And it's just so awkward because you're reading like the sex fantasies of

dad.

And then at the same time,

he doesn't seem to really understand the female anatomy anatomy all that well, so

he writes things.

You're like, Does he think that's how this works?

It's it's utterly unbelievable, but it's about the level of writing from Stacey Abrams here.

There's one more sentence.

Oh, sorry, okay.

Before we get to take a break, if you're not.

Are you commanding me audibly right now to stop this?

I'm commanding you audibly, yes, because I got to get to this line because it's powerful:

sighs, and pleas and moans mingled in enthralled chorus.

Right?

Is that beautiful or what?

Sighs.

Sighs and pleas.

And please.

And moans.

And moans.

Mingled.

They mingled.

In an enthralled chorus.

So apparently there was a choir in there in the bedroom with them.

Right.

That they were singing while the act was happening.

And what she doesn't include there, it was all silent.

All the sighs and moans and pleas were sent to the church.

They were silently commanding the chorus to sing.

She should have included that.

Because I don't know if I heard it.

When I'm picturing this, I can't think of, am I hearing things or is it quiet?

It's hard to figure out.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Because she doesn't specifically mention whether this is allowed or silent in this particular passage.

Wait, hold on.

I just commanded you silently to go to a commercial break.

And I picked it up.

See, it can happen.

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You know what?

There should be a podcast for Stacey Abrams' romance novels.

That would be a massive hit.

I would totally buy the rights just to do that.

That would be fun.

That would be fun.

Now, does the guy's dad on the podcast you were talking about,

does he know he's being made fun of by his son?

He does now.

I think he, he, I don't know if he did at the very beginning.

Is he upset about it?

You'd think he, because they really wreck the writing, because the writing is really what's funny about it.

Because he's just a guy who's like seemingly just throwing in a bunch of sexual things he's heard of in random order.

And it's not like a, it's not well written at all.

So the book is really,

really funny just to hear.

And that's what they're making fun of most of the time.

But the guy, I think the dad, it started off as like a self-published book that he wrote under a pen name.

God, the pen name is really funny, too.

I can't think of the name.

It's like, it's like, I want to say it's like Rocky Flintstone or something like that.

It's his pen name.

You're writing a sex book under the name Rocky Flintstone.

It's something like that.

Anyway, so he, I think he released it and it was going to sell like zero copies.

He like released, self-published it on Amazon or something.

And because of this podcast, now it's sold a ton.

And it's turned into an HBO show and they made a ton of money off of it.

Really?

Yeah.

And I don't know.

The name of the.

God.

I mean, I just, it's, if you don't mind super graphic talk in this manner, it is an incredible listen.

But they have the name of the

reminding all these details.

The name of the book, I think, is called Belinda Blinked.

Belinda is the sex object.

Belinda is the name of the sex object in this movie.

And she's a salesperson who works in the pots and pans industry.

And it's not, like, it was not written to be intentionally intentionally funny, which is why it's really funny.

It is an amazing adventure.

Pots and pans.

Pots and pans industry.

So she's like, every single scene is like this, you know, sultry

salesperson who's selling pots and pans meets with someone and then does things to get the sale to go through, is the basic concept of the book.

Like, she seems to do a lot of sexual favors to sell more pans.

Is it based on a true story?

Yes, it is, of course.

Yeah, it is.

It's a documentary.

Yeah.

Now, that doesn't seem to compare to this, though.

I mean, this guy's got nothing on Stacey Abrams.

Does he?

She's written eight romance novels.

Eight?

Eight.

How many has this guy written?

I think maybe now by now, probably eight.

They're making a lot of money off of it.

Okay.

This is from the CBS movie that's coming up.

It's actually not a movie.

It's a series.

CBS is doing a full series on the book Never Tell by Stacey Abrams, although that's not the name she goes by.

She has a pen name.

Rocky Flintstone.

Something like that.

Yeah.

Here's another passage that I actually can read some of.

There are four sentences out of this.

This isn't right.

You don't know what you want.

What you need.

I can't take advantage of that.

I won't.

She cut off his denial.

No.

I've never been with anyone before because I've never wanted anyone before.

Which is why this is a mistake.

You need time, more time.

His appeal was desperate.

Stay, and I may never let you go.

I'm yours.

The words were erotic threat, voluptuous promise.

Erotic threat.

Erotic threat.

Voluptuous promise.

What a wonderful voice for the Me Too movement.

Isn't that great?

Someone writing a book about an erotic threat.

Unbelievable.

Now, did they say you had to read it that fast, or was it just awkward to read?

It was just awkward to read.

Yes.

You read that like it was a disclaimer at the end of a commercial.

Yeah, I always have a hard time getting through it.

No,

maybe Al Gord have a better time getting this.

Isn't right.

You don't know what you want, what you need.

I can't take advantage of that.

I won't.

She cut off his denial.

No, I've never been with anyone before because I've never wanted anyone before.

Is it any sexier with Al?

Tad sexier

with Al.

And what did she cut off his denial?

His denial.

Okay.

Yeah.

Make sure that was not some weird word for something else.

I got nervous for me.

No, okay.

Denial.

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You mentioned, well, you read as Al Gore moments ago.

Right.

You know, he was on with Seth Meyers the other day?

Recently?

Yeah.

I haven't seen Al in a long time.

He's been doing a lot.

No.

Remember in 2016, we were mildly convinced that Hillary Clinton was going to drop out of the race and Al Gore was going to step in at the last minute.

Because he felt like a rock star then.

It's kind of faded since then.

Yeah.

I don't know that if you jumped into this race, anybody would care, but I think in 2016, 2017

or 2012, they would have.

Yeah.

He was still sort of a big celebrity guy, even up to probably 2008, 2012.

2016, it had faded.

Maybe, yeah.

And now I think it's really faded.

The theory, this is when a lot of the Hillary Health stuff was going on, and people were talking about if she drops out, what do they do?

Right.

And we were saying, they got to go, they're going to go White Knight, right?

They're going to find some guy.

It's the same thing I think happens here.

Like, let's say Joe Biden wins the nomination, goes through the process, and then some big scandal breaks, he has to drop out, or he doesn't feel like he can physically do the,

you know, the campaign anymore or be president, whatever happens, God forbid, a health problem, whatever it is, and he decides to drop out of the race.

You can't just pick the person who finished second.

You can't just pick Bernie or you can't pick, you know.

No.

It's a weird thing.

Usually what they'll do is go outside of the entire system.

I think at that point, you've got to go Richard Gephardt.

I think Dick Gephardt is the best.

I think Dick Gephardt is your man.

I feel like Dick Gephardt should always be the nomination for the Democrats.

I don't know why.

I think so, too.

I would say, like, the person who now fits that role probably better than anyone else is Michelle Obama.

Definitely.

Right?

Like,

a person who would be stepping, they would unite the Democrats.

They'd all be excited about it.

That'd be horrific.

She could raise money like nobody else.

And the thing with Michelle Obama is the longer the microscope is on her, the more likely she is to make a mistake.

Yeah.

But if she steps in in September

and has a month to go through this, she might be able to.

And that's a scary possibility for a lot of people.

I mean, Bill O'Reilly's been on the show and said if she ran, she would definitely beat Trump.

I kind of feel that way, too.

She's got 73% approval ratings.

73%?

Nobody has that.

No, that would change as soon as she became a candidate.

I hope so.

But I do think that she's not tested at the level of a presidential candidate.

It's no impossible.

She could be terrible.

She actually really didn't do well for Barack in 2008.

They had to take her off the campaign trail.

But eight years as first lady and

profile stuff, she probably can handle it better than she did then.

She was pretty bad on the campaign trail initially.

Yeah.

They pretty much pulled her off and said, yeah, you know what you should do is stop talking, please.

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, we've got John McCain to beat here.

I think we can handle it if you just don't say things.

So, and which they did.

He was on,

Gore, though, was on with

Seth Myers, and they were talking Green New Deal.

Listen.

The Green New Deal lays out a lot of the things you've been talking about for a very long time.

Are you impressed by it?

And are you also a little jealous you didn't come up with a name?

Because the Green New Deal is a real brand new thing.

I think it's a great brand and a great name.

And you know, my friend Tom Friedman actually used that phrase.

But

I think it's genius because it does a couple of things.

It manages to communicate the reality that

the solutions to the climate crisis are going to have to be big on the scale of the New Deal.

It also conveys that there are lots of jobs involved.

We can get our country being more prosperous on a sustainable basis while we solve the climate crisis.

What you notice about Al Gore there is he turns one-syllable words into three.

It's got to be bug.

What did you just say?

It's got to be bug.

You know what's weird is his voice is getting closer to your impression.

I noticed that too.

Yeah, that's really interesting because

the Thomas Friedman thing he does there.

Friedman?

Friedman.

It's like...

There's an effort going on to get that name out.

Definitely.

Can we hear this one more time?

Listen to the Thomas Friedman.

He really, it takes a while.

Listen.

the Green New Deal lays out a lot of the things you've been talking about for a very long time.

Are you impressed by it?

And are you also a little jealous you didn't come up with a name?

Because the Green New Deal is a real name.

I think it's a

great brand and a great name.

And you know, my friend Tom Friedman actually is.

But

I think it's genius because she just published it.

All right, stop.

It's R Foys.

It's that thing.

Yeah.

You know, where he draws things out.

Friedman.

F.U.

Wave.

It's very weird.

It's a weird thing.

It's a weird thing.

The other thing I noticed there is he kind of takes a shot at AOC there.

Yeah, he calls the plan genius, which I don't know if you know this, it's not.

But he does not let her have credit for the name.

Actually, my friend Tom Freideman said it first.

Tom Freydeman said it several years ago.

And look, it's not, don't, let's not act like this amazing genius thing.

Number one, it wasn't good enough branding to get past.

I mean,

none of it's real.

In fact, it's largely a joke among many, many people.

That's partially because of the way they rolled it out, but it's also a disaster financially.

Well, it's only $93 trillion, according to many estimates, which is almost.

It's only about

double almost all the money in the world.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Well, about one and a half times.

That's all the money in the world.

More than average.

Yeah.

More than $29,000 a year.

which is a lot of money yeah i mean it is but

93 trillion is just a tad more just a tad

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Our very own Chad Brother,

doing a really cool special all this week.

Did it last night, has it tonight, and then tomorrow night.

Three-parter.

Three-part series on the weirdness of Jeffrey Epstein.

Now, that's not the name of it,

but Chad joins us now.

Hey, Chad.

Hey, good morning, man.

Yeah, there's a lot of weirdness there.

Yeah.

In fact, he kind of had a cult or something to himself.

Didn't he want to impregnate a bunch of women and send them all over the world with his seed?

Something to that effect.

Well, what, you know, people hear this stuff and they think that it's pure fiction because it reads like something out of a Crichton novel.

And we were, we were, you know, as Candace Ortiz, you know, our editorial producer was doing research.

We were looking into these things and we discovered that one of the things that Epstein found was that they were collecting the sperm of Nobel Prize recipients and they were putting it together in a lab because they felt that the world was getting...

dumber and that is their word quote dumber and i i have to agree with them in that regard but what they were doing is they were wanting to start this whole new uh this whole generation of smart people.

And so Epstein heard this.

Now, first of all, what you have to understand for a guy who accomplished so much, based on his history, Epstein was not a smart people.

He was not a smart guy.

He was a college dropout that was a horrible math and science teacher at the high school level.

And so when you learn more of these things about it, that's exactly what he wanted to do.

He wanted to generate a whole world of Epsteins out there.

And that's what he was going to do.

He was going to bring, we're going to talk about that tonight on the special.

Tonight's episode is called The Devil Has Blue Eyes.

And that was their whole thing, is they were going to bring in 20 girls at a time, impregnate them.

They had to sign away all rights to the child.

And it was going to be raised by, of course, Epstein and his

Jelaine Maxwell, who was sort of the queen to his whole chess set there that made all the connections for him and kind of ran the ring.

He wanted to raise 20 children by himself with Giselle?

Really?

You know, one would think he would have some help out there, but I mean, that when you start seeing how big it is, it really is cult-like.

And that's one of the things that people don't realize.

And that's the dangerous place that we kind of stepped into

because we start talking about the King Ranch in New Mexico.

A lot of people think of the King Ranch in Texas.

two totally different things.

Of course, Bruce King was at one time the governor of New Mexico, and they passed down political positions like family heirlooms in New Mexico.

They owned most of not only New Mexico ranch lands but they also are the major producer of corn in the U.S.

So they're a big, big family.

And in most interviews when they talk about the King Ranch and I'll tell you why that's significant in a second, they actually bleep out that name.

They bleep out the King name.

But Epstein's New Mexico compound, of course we know about the Virgin Islands, the Little James Island that he flew, you know, the Lolita Express to.

What they don't know is that he had a 10,000 acre compound with a 27,000 square foot home right in the middle of the King Ranch.

You could not get to it unless you went over it or through the King Ranch.

So he, in essence, isolated himself with one of the most political families, most powerful families in New Mexico.

It was like building a moat around your ranch.

You were completely inaccessible.

And now we're starting to see these pictures that are emerging from, you know, the King, or I should say, what he called the Zorro ranch there in the middle of New Mexico.

So that's where he was going to do that.

It's a pretty creepy place.

When you think about it, just down the road,

there is

a therapy place for Catholic priests that were caught in pedophilia.

There is a home for orphans that was co-founded by Prince Charles.

There's a number of different things.

It's, of course, where they, not far from, where they tested the atomic bombs and, again, set up a lot of the Nazi war criminals that they brought in to do genetic testing and create these things.

So New Mexico is a place for cryogenics, eugenics, and transhumanism, which is exactly what he's trying to accomplish in bringing these kids in.

So there's so many things that people don't know about the life of Jeffrey Epstein that are weird.

They think, well, here's a guy.

He's dead.

We're glad he's dead.

But his legacy lives on in a big way because he was not doing these things by himself.

And the people he was doing it with are still very much alive.

And so that's kind of the angle we tell the story from.

And honestly, Pat and Stu, whenever we tell this story, the average American, they look at the memes or they say Epstein didn't kill himself and that's all.

We have a good chuckle at that.

But most people can't even tell you where Epstein got his money from to begin with.

So there's a big story that's under the surface that a lot of people don't know.

We know about the guy who was convicted as a

as a child predator, as a sex offender in the late 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008.

We know about that guy who really never served any time, never even reported to a parole officer.

But it's how he reinvented himself after that by associating with the Elon Musks, the Bill Gates, the Stephen Hawkings of the world.

These are the people that, and I'm not accusing them of any form of pedophilia, of course, but it was how he tried to rebuild his influence.

And ultimately, the goal for him was immortality.

It's really

a weird story.

First of all, I don't even know how one would go about obtaining the seed from Nobel Prize winners.

I don't know.

Is there a website that you go to for that, Chad?

I don't even know how that occurs.

My first thought is I wanted to question Barack Obama.

Maybe he's got a...

It's funny.

Because he really...

tried to rebuild his credibility after the arrest by these sort of like association.

He would try to find the, he donated tons of money to

universities and centers that were on the cutting edge of science and tried to kind of play himself off as the scientist when he, I mean, he wasn't.

And he tried to do this thing where he just basically tried to associate himself back into the good graces of up you know fine upstanding society.

It sort of worked for a long time.

It worked well, and that's interesting.

We go back to where we started from.

Here's a college dropout who's now associating himself, and they're actually identifying almost as a colleague in Harvard science schools.

You know, he donates 40 million

to what he was kind of into.

And not only that, they've never given a dime back.

MIT actually received a large donation.

They started giving some money back to disassociate themselves.

But you're talking about a guy who's who's basically his madam, if you will,

his child procurer, his female procurer,

Jelaine Maxwell, who is still at large.

We don't really know where she is.

You know, she was at Hillary Clinton's, I'm sorry, not Hillary, she was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

She's been on three or four vacations with Chelsea Clinton.

This is a person who was highly associating.

And it wasn't just about wealth.

It was about being able to have secrets.

His wealth was really not in money as much as it was in being able to buy people's secrets.

And those are the secrets we still don't know.

We're starting to see things get uncovered with Prince Andrew.

I find it somewhat humorous that now the queen is stepping in and won't let him have his 60th birthday party because of this.

And this is a guy who just last week on the BBC was talking about how much he doesn't like a...

pate.

And so now, guess what?

Good thing you don't like the party because you're not getting one.

And so

there's some, where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's things that are there.

And that's what we've tried to do in these three episodes to say, look,

yeah, he may be dead.

He may be on an island with a facelift.

We don't know.

But the legacy of it and the danger of it still lives on.

So how did he make most of his money?

Where did that billion come from?

Well, you know, so first of all, what he did was he got into Bear Stearns.

He was a high school tutor.

He was having inappropriate relationships at the high school.

He was at the Danbury School, which is a very elite school in New York.

He was having inappropriate relationships with the students.

He was a terrible teacher.

He tried to make extra money on the side.

He gained the attention of someone named Lynn Keppel.

Her father was actually the CEO at the time of Bear Stearns.

He liked his moxie, so to speak.

He liked his hustle.

And so he was doing really, really well at Bear Stearns.

The first year and only year he was there, and then he decided to resign, even though he was just killing it financially for them.

He resigned saying he was going on to bigger and better opportunities.

And that's the first sign you see of his M.O.

And that is he was taking Bear Stern's money and using it to buy influence.

So he was giving people loans,

in essence, embezzling, but he wasn't keeping the money for himself.

He was buying influence with powerful people.

And he started the J.

Epstein company.

He associated himself with numerous people like

Les Wexner, I'm sorry, who owns, of course, things like The Limited and Bath ⁇ Body Works and Victoria's Secret.

And Wexner would even, and this is just one example.

Wexner would turn all of his assets over to Epstein as a financial counselor.

And Epstein would even replace people on their advisory board that were family members.

And he would say, no, you don't need that person.

And then these multi-millionaires would come to Epstein and he would say, you have too much money.

It's too dangerous.

People People are going to steal it from you.

So let me manage it for you.

So, in essence, he was stealing their money.

So,

this is the thing that, you know, he winds up with like $460 million

after being involved with the Hoffenberg Ponzi scheme, which is the world's biggest Ponzi scheme that we've ever known.

Hoffenberg, of course, goes to jail for 18 years.

Epstein doesn't see a day in jail.

And, of course, it was the New York City municipal court who's there.

Guess who appointed

that court?

Of course, it was Bill Clinton, who was president at the time.

It's so weird.

You make such a great point on how he used it.

It wasn't about his money.

It was about the way that he sort of like was willing to cross lines like crazy in every part of his life, but do it with a respectable face.

So people could associate with this really rich guy who seemed really accomplished and smart.

And no one would suspect that behind the scenes

he was willing to cross all these lines.

I mean, you look at the stuff he did in Miami with the girls, it's not just like he was hooking up with young girls.

The guy built a gigantic system to allow himself with recruitment, with

how to import them, how to hide it, what to ask for.

They had a whole system.

I mean, you even go to when he's in prison and he's supposed to be

in a cell and doesn't want to be in a cell.

So he pays his way to have lawyers be there basically every minute he's awake.

So he's in meetings with lawyers and he doesn't actually have to stay in the cell.

This is before his death.

I mean, he was a way, he was able to bend and break rules to create systems to allow otherwise respectable people to do

things that are not respected.

Yeah, and you take someone like Bill Gates, who is on record of saying, you know, hey, he's a very interesting guy with very interesting ideas.

You know, when Stephen Hawking is hanging around, these guys, they weren't interested in his brain.

They were interested in his influence and his money in that regard, of the things that he could get done with his charm.

And even when he was in prison before he died, there would be people who, other prisoners, who would have $100 here and there that would just show up in their commissary account.

And it was coming from Epstein.

So even when he was in jail, he was buying influence and buying these favors.

The special is three nights, and you can watch all of it on demand.

The last one airs tomorrow.

The second part is tonight.

If you go to Blazetv.com, use the promo code CPS, Chad Praythrow Show, CPS, and you'll get a discount there.

And you've got to check this out because this is going really deep into this.

You're going to know way more than everybody else on this story if you watch these three parts.

Chad Praythrow, thanks for joining us.

Thanks, guys.

Thanks.

Appreciate it.

Talk tonight at six, I think, Central?

Is it six, right?

Yeah, I believe so.

Yeah, definitely check that out.

That's going to be fascinating.

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It's Epstein Week on the Blaze.

Yay!

Really interested to see that Chad Prayer special.

Sounds really good.

Really good.

And that's that guy who was a freak.

Yeah.

Not Chad, but Jeffrey Epstein.

He's right.

Yes.

In so many ways, he was a freak.

He was.

Again, not Chad.

No, not Chad.

Jeffrey Epstein.

I mean, Chad may be too.

I wouldn't put it past him.

Just not in the same way that Jeffrey Epstein is.

Hopefully, not.

I would say definitely not on that one.

So, by the way, you can go to Blazetv.com.

Use the code CPS for Chad's special.

They have now 45%

in polls now believe Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and did not kill himself.

And that's pretty common.

I know Steven Crowder did a special last night as well on Epstein, and he tried to simulate the...

They built a replica of the cell, and actually he tried to hang himself.

He talked about it on the air yesterday.

Do not try this at home.

And

you have to watch the special because it's very funny.

And also, you do actually learn a little bit about how difficult this would be.

I mean, he had to do all sorts of crazy things to even come close to the amount of pressure you would need for the bones breaking.

It was very suspicious.

And I still don't understand how it's true.

Though, I mean, you look at like the AP is reporting.

You know, this conspiracy theory is blowing up.

45% of people now believe it.

And

it just seems like so many weird things happening that it's not even a conspiracy theory.

Yeah.

But they say that not only is there

a...

He was by himself in the cell.

He had no roommate.

That's because they moved his roommate, right?

His cellmate.

Right.

So there's no one in the cell, though, that could have done.

That's two hours before he killed himself.

And they talk a lot about the cameras being out to see the cell, which I think is true.

However,

there were cameras in the hallway where his cell was.

And they say video surveillance confirms that nobody entered the area where Epstein was when he was locked in his cell.

And the cell would have had to been opened by a remote location by a guard and another door by a guard.

Both of those had cameras on it, and that didn't seem to happen.

What if the killer came in through the ceiling, like Tom Cruise on Mission Impossible?

God, they don't even address him.

He lowered himself, strangled the guy, broke his neck, and went sucked right back up into the ceiling.

They don't even mention Tom Cruise in this article.

They don't even mention it.

I think it probably was Tom Cruise himself.

So convenient.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.