Best of the Program | Guest: Salena Zito | 11/19/19

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Today we spent a lot of time on gay chicken money,

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Selena Zito was here for a dignified moment about what the next election is probably shaping up.

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Santa phoned in

also.

He was very upset today with Chick-fil-A.

Lot going on on today's podcast.

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Well, I don't know.

I mean, we're just debating.

We have so many things to go on that we have to cover today.

We have Adam Schiff.

He's about to start asking questions.

We also have Fartgate

that is happening.

We need a fart investigation on this because I don't know if I buy the media spit on it.

You know, there's too much conflicting information on it.

Can we please play Eric Swalwell

being interviewed by Chris Matthews yesterday?

yesterday.

This audio is real.

Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election.

And the complaint that I've heard from Republican.

All right, let's hear one more time.

One more time.

Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election.

And the complaint that I've heard.

I mean, his shoulders go up.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a physical reaction visually that you can.

And he pauses.

Now, Chris Matthews says that's just a coffee cup coming across the table.

Let's listen to it with thinking about a coffee cup.

Could it be a coffee cup?

Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat an election.

And the complaint that I've heard from a public.

Could be, maybe?

I don't know.

It could be.

We should try to recreate.

Well, you got to take the

pens out of it.

You might need some liquid.

Do you have any liquid you can put in that thing?

Well, I gotta get all the

this table's too smooth, I think.

Yeah, it is.

Well, what kind of

I mean, they're getting no, you're getting no friction at all on this table.

What kind of play that again?

What kind of table does that have?

Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat an election.

And the complaint that I've heard.

Chris Matthews is the one who said it.

I don't think that there would be a problem believing that Chris Matthews has bad gas problems.

Well, and there's an indication, I mean, this goes back historically to whoever smelt it dealt it.

Correct.

Correct.

Now, is that hearsay?

Do you have first-hand knowledge of he who smelt it dealt it?

Or is this...

I mean, I...

I mean, hearsay, don't get me wrong.

Hearsay is as good as gold.

As good as gold.

As good as gold.

As any first-hand I was there, eyewitness kind of stuff.

Here's the thing.

To me,

while it does sort of look like Swalwell farts there, I don't know if the audio fits it.

He's in an echoey room.

He's supposedly wearing a lapel mic, which would not indicate, like, it's too far away from his butt for the air to be that clear.

Play it one more time.

Taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election.

And the complexity of the market is

it seems to me more like Chris Matthews ripped one in the studio and he's trying to hide it.

I don't know, but our investigation will go into tens of millions of dollars and we'll spend about three years on Fartgate as we look into what's in Swalwell's pants and what did Chris Matthews know and when did he know it?

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We have Selena Zito on the phone with us.

She is a reporter and one of the best listeners, I think, in the country.

She actually is the one who called the last election really spot on, spot on, and I think she's doing it again.

Selena, welcome to the program.

Hey, thanks so much for having me on.

Nice to talk to you, Glenn.

Good to talk to you.

I know your book is, is it out in paperback yet?

Yeah, it just came out in paperback this week with

an update, an afterword that explains what happened in 2018, why that matters, what it tells us, and what we should continue to look for for 2020.

Give you an understanding.

So

I'm reading some of the stuff that you have written recently, and yesterday

you have the new phase of the Great Revolt.

And

as I'm reading it last night, I'm gathering that

What people did in the

congressional and state elections here recently, we should not necessarily take that to mean anything for the presidential election.

And that's absolutely right.

Let's take the Kentucky governor's race for a moment.

If anybody understood Kentucky or ever went there in the national press, they wouldn't be writing, oh, it's all over because the Republican Kentucky governor lost.

I spent a lot of time in Kentucky.

Matt Bevan was not very popular.

The point of view of him by the people who live there is that he was a carpetbagger.

You know, he didn't understand Kentucky culture.

And he made a lot of series of

successive out-of-touch decisions

about his state.

And governor's races are about being connected to the people.

And he did not demonstrate that he was.

And if you look down ballot, Republicans not only won hugely like in the Secretary of State race or the Attorney General race, but also they gained seats

in the Senate and in the House.

So I think that saying, oh, this means Republicans don't want Trump.

No, it meant that Kentucky voters were unsatisfied with Matt Bevin.

All right, so

we're watching the impeachment today,

and I think it's just hardening people's positions.

There's nothing new here as we're watching.

There's no smoking gun.

People who are against Donald Trump are so against him they'll do anything to get him out.

For those who are really even fence sitters on Donald Trump, I think they look at this and say, this is not,

this doesn't even make sense to me.

And I think it hardens people on which way they were leaning.

It's absolutely correct.

And I'll tell you what it reminds me of.

Do you remember when Scott Walker won the governor's race in 2010, and then there was a recall election?

Because, you know, the people who lost were unhappy.

Essentially, that's what it was.

And he came back and won that with higher percentage because people who didn't even vote for him thought, you know what, this is bogus.

This is sore loserism.

And I'm going to vote for him

because I think the behavior of the Democrats is wrong.

And I'm finding a lot of that sentiment

among Trump skeptics who don't particularly care for his comportment, which, by the way, is probably 70% of Trump voters.

They don't care for his comportment.

They like the results.

They also understand that you need to be a mean SOB to

sort of break up the swamp's behavior and the establishment behavior on both sides to make effective change.

I will tell you, Selena, I said this.

I mean, we talked right after.

I said this right at the beginning.

If you want to be effective and actually go against Donald Trump, you can't.

just throw everything at him.

They started from the beginning and

it drove people.

I mean,

when I put the MAGA hat on, I don't know, about a year or two ago, mine was not a full-throated endorsement of Donald Trump because I like many of his policies.

For instance, side note, Your Honor, just what he did with Israel just yesterday.

I like many of his policies, but he is so hard to defend because

of the way he just is.

But you know what?

The way they're taking him on in Congress, through the State Department, and in the media, God bless him.

Just keep going, Donald.

Just keep going.

It's a sentiment shared by

people.

And here's what really always gets under my skin.

Go ahead: is that the people in my profession don't understand that sentiment.

And you know why?

Because they live in the super zip codes of this country

and they don't know anyone who thinks or looks or acts the way that people do outside of those super zip codes.

They control the media, they control entertainment, they control sports, they control corporations.

And this populist coalition has been building for over 12 years.

Donald Trump didn't cause it.

He is the result of it.

And the important thing about the Great Revolt is this continues long after 2020.

This coalition is not going away for at least a generation.

What I would tell people to do is everyone in my profession says, oh, it's all up to the suburbs.

That's right.

But not all suburbs are created equal.

Suburban voter in Erie County, Pennsylvania, or Kenosha, Wisconsin, or Baldwin, Michigan, or McCone County, Michigan,

does not

look.

act or behave the same way a suburban voter in Philadelphia or Northern Virginia behaves and votes.

Those are the voters who are going to make a difference.

They have the exact same education that their cousins have in Northern Virginia and Philadelphia, but they live among a variety of different

viewpoints.

And they are connected and rooted to community where voters in

like Northern Virginia are very transient.

They aren't rooted to their community.

Community doesn't mean the same thing.

And voting for Donald Trump is about community and localism.

And I have to tell you,

and I would love to hear you respond to this, Selena.

As I travel around,

I just have this sense that there's a lot of people that would have voted for another candidate that wasn't corrupt.

and wasn't a hardcore socialist and or even hanging around all the socialists.

I think there's a lot of people who are Democrats, who are blue-collar, et cetera, et cetera, who may not like Donald Trump, but will vote for him because they feel like the Democratic Party has left the building and they have left the insane socialists in charge.

Yes, that's absolutely true.

All you have to do is keep your eye on Western Pennsylvania throughout this whole process.

Most of the candidates on the Democratic side that are running said they believe in a ban on fracking on day one.

Well, let me tell you, Western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, also Texas, Colorado, Kansas, North Dakota, these are areas that are thriving

because of

the shale industry.

Lives and communities are being changed because they are now prosperous again.

And so to ban it is to take, how are you going to sort of, it's a binary choice, right?

I've got Trump, who I like his policies, don't like his personality.

I got the Democrats, oh, they want to take my job away on the day they're sworn in.

I can go go with the guy with the weird Twitter account because at least he has my back.

And a Democrat cannot win the White House without winning Pennsylvania.

A Republican can.

And a Democrat cannot win Pennsylvania without winning Western Pennsylvania.

So

that's why you have to keep an eye on those areas because that's where those sentiments will be reflected anytime someone visits there and they will understand

why Trump, if it was held tomorrow, he would win the election.

And that's hard for people who live out, you live in either the East Coast or the West Coast

to understand because they don't know anybody else in the middle.

Remember this, this is in the Great Revolt.

34% of Trump voters in 2016, which right now seems like the Ozzy and Harriet Hour era because it seems nicer than it was today.

34% of Trump voters did not tell family member or friend that they were voting for him.

34%.

That was in 2016.

I mean, I can't even, my mind just can't even wrap around how people would,

how they're going to approach it now, given the intensity of the cancel culture.

You know, I mean,

you say you're going to vote for Trump, you have to worry about losing your job or affecting the people that work for you or affecting your family or affecting your social status.

How is the impeachment affecting all of this?

You had it absolutely right.

If you love Trump and on Election Day 2016, you're still optimistic about the future.

But

what about those swing people,

the people that are,

you know,

they don't necessarily like that they are voting for a Republican, let alone Donald Trump.

What about those people who voted for him last time?

Has this made any impact on them?

None, zero.

I have a story coming out about that in the New York Post on Sunday.

I went back to the people in the book, people that were skeptical, people that had a hard time,

you know, and people who supported him outright, but had reservations, that it's Groundhog Day.

Nothing has changed.

Their support for him has only gotten stronger.

Because they look at this and say, you know, they've been trying to impeach him since day one.

They just finally found something they think can make stick, but but it they they and they're watching this intensely.

Like, there's no they're there.

I mean,

in their minds, they think

th this is not an impeachable offense.

This is something that someone does who's not part of the Washington system, and this is how they behave.

This is how Trump always behaves.

What about those Democrats who vote for Democrats, but they are afraid of the socialist movement of the Democrat.

Will they just sit it out?

Or will they vote for the socialist Democrat or a Democrat?

No, they won't vote for the socialist Democrat.

They'll either sit it out or they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump.

That's why I keep my eye on Minnesota as well.

That's a state he only lost by 45,000 votes, and I just spent some time there.

And you see the swing towards him in that state, and that broadens his coalition.

That doesn't add to shrinking his coalition.

So

I've heard talk from some people that they believe that this could be a Reagan-Mondale election.

I don't think it'd be that strong, but do you think there is a chance that

it's not anything like we're expecting?

If the Democrats go too crazy on this impeachment, which have already shown that they

have no problem doing, and they pick someone very far left, such as Elizabeth Warren or Pete Gutic,

then yeah, you would see a landslide.

Absolutely.

All right.

With no doubt in my mind.

Selena, thank you so much.

The name of the book is The Great Revolt.

I'm anxious to see your next article and get the update to your book.

Selena is the one who really listened to people

and was the one who finally really, just listening to her, explained it to me.

And I was like, Oh my gosh, I get it.

It's called The Great Revolt

by her and Brad Todd, who also was instrumental in putting this together.

It's out in paperback now.

Selena, thank you so much.

Thanks so much for having me.

You bet.

God bless.

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We're talking about the impeachment.

There's a lot of things going on today.

I want to talk to you a little bit about what happened yesterday with Israel and also Chick-fil-A,

which they came out and they said they were giving up their charity.

A contract ran out with the charity known as the Salvation Army.

And

the press is spinning this as,

you know, they're just going after the gay chicken money.

But we, is this right?

We have Santa on the phone.

Hello, Santa.

A Merry Christmas, Glenn.

Yeah, Merry, Merry Christmas.

Have you been a good boy or girl?

I've been

boy my whole life there, Santa.

Well, that's how I have to ask it now.

Have you been a good boy or girl?

Right, okay.

I mean, come on, Chick-fil-A.

I mean,

I've been you're taking money from the salvation freaking army.

Well, it's

not.

Here I am sitting at like 1,200 Walmarts at the same time raising money, and I got to deal with this crap.

Right, right.

I mean, I'm Santa.

I love the gays.

Look at my suit.

Super frilly.

So, So, Santa loves the gays.

I put bells on everything.

Hello.

I mean, I gotta say, a lot of the streets around here

were not for the tinsel.

It was over the top.

I pushed for it.

Right, okay.

Okay.

All right.

When I got a request from some kid named Stan that wants a Barbie, I don't bring a do-it-yourself gay conversion therapy instead.

That's not what I'm doing here.

Right, right.

So maybe

the Salvation Army is

something that

I'm trying trying to feed people here, homeless people, not butch up your toddler.

Might I remind you,

I'm a guy who is inside your home

while you're asleep.

Right.

Okay?

I have access to your fireplace.

Right.

I know when you are sleeping.

Stop screwing with me.

All right.

Thank you very much.

That's an

official response from Santa about Chick-fil-A distancing themselves from the Salvation Army, which I am not sure that's anything other than spin on what actually happened from Chick-fil-A.

We're waiting for a comment from Chick-fil-A.

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We have some breaking news.

Can we...

Are we going to stop for the breaking news?

We do.

Okay.

We have an update on Fart Vestigation 2019.

Oh, Fart?

Fart.

Fart Vestigation.

Fart Vestigation.

Yes, Fartgate being investigated.

Fartgate, which is Eric Swalwell farting on national television.

Or did he?

Right.

Well, this is the big controversy.

I will tell you, it took a lot to restrain myself, but I did restrain myself on Twitter yesterday because I thought there's no way that fart is...

Somebody just added that fart onto that, and I wasn't going to be a part of that.

But now I find out, and this is real, I come in the morning, and yes.

That sound was not added later.

This is the original clip with Eric Swalwell and Chris Matthews.

You'll hear Eric talking, and then somebody just rips one in the middle of the statement, and you see a physical reaction by Swalwell.

But is that misleading people from the real facts behind the story?

Here's...

The evidence is uncontradicted that the president used taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election.

It looks like he pushes it out with the E.

Like it's cheat.

Yeah.

I mean, he just threw the election, and that was what pushes it out.

It does look like it.

It does look like it.

It does look like it.

But looks can be deceiving.

Yes.

Now, Chris Matthews,

I was going to present this the way that the alternate theory is developing.

Chris Matthews, he's back in studio.

He knows it's not Eric Swalwell.

Eric Swalwell is taking all the heat for it.

So what does he do?

Swalwell is going to call him out and said, you're the guy that farted Matthews.

You're the guy who farted on television.

And Matthews has to come out and release a statement saying, no, it wasn't Swalwell.

Or Swalwell will come out with the truth.

So, what he does is he said, oh, it was a mug.

We've already tried to simulate the mug.

Do you want to give us another quick mug simulation?

I'll give you the simulation.

Here's a mug on my desk.

Here it is.

Does not sound like a fart.

Does not sound like a fart, what does it?

Does it not sound like a fart?

We know that.

Okay.

Well, investigations are going on and information is coming out.

And there have maybe been some other situations where Chris Matthews has farted on the air during interviews.

Don't believe it.

That would be the normal stance, and it would be one I would understand, Glenn.

Right, okay.

Okay.

All right.

But let me just present the evidence.

All right, go ahead.

Here is clip number one.

Court and said that when he pleaded guilty to these charges in the Southern District of New York, but what's different is today is

that sounded very similar to the cup across the desk.

It did sound a lot like the cup across the desk.

What is this desk made out of?

I don't understand.

Smart sounding material of some sort.

Not a thing.

Right, okay.

Okay.

All right.

Next clip, another clip of Chris Matthews doing an interview.

Listen.

He's the executive director of the Florida Democratic Party.

And Bob Strung is a Democratic strategist who's been through a lot of these races.

Scott, just give me the skinny here.

Can we get a clean, fair, honest

now?

Have these been added?

Because it sounds like they've been added.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

This is a real investigation.

I don't know your source

of who is collecting fart sounds from Chris Matthews.

Many sources around the internet, actually.

Okay, so there's another one.

Here's another one.

If you're taking the president of the United States down into a...

So that really depends on how it's ultimately structured.

If they were able to make some sort of a

I mean, I'm hearing them.

I'm hearing them too.

And I will tell you, he is at that point to where he's an old man.

He's very old, Glenn.

Yeah.

And sometimes when you hit that age that starts with a one and then has a two after it, and then there's like a three or a four after that things are hard to control right I mean like that's not Chris's fault personally I mean

if when I get into that situation I'm gonna be saying to you know Doris Kearns Goodwin pull my finger right I mean you just go for it I'll just go for it I'll just go for it but uh but Chris is I think so what you're saying here in this fart investigation is that don't be so hasty uh it's probably not Swalwell.

Yeah, and so people are blaming Swalwell.

And look, he's had a rough year.

You know, there's an argument to be made that the fart in question lasted longer than his campaign.

Right.

And that's not true.

He smelled about the same.

Maybe, maybe better.

However, as much as I think Swalwell's a funny target of this,

number one, I want the truth.

Okay.

I want the truth here.

That's what we're about.

Right.

Okay.

That's number one.

Number two, I feel like Chris Matthews might be a better target.

No one knows who Eric Swalwell is.

No one cares.

Eric Swalwell kind of came and went, and no one's going to ever hear from the guy again.

Chris Matthews

is a guy I kind of want to believe farts on the air.

I want it to be true.

And therefore, it should tell you this.

I mean, is this a

I had to work in an atmosphere with an old man that was farting all the time?

Because I think there's a lesser me to movement that could be had.

Me number two movement?

Yeah.

I mean, no, he didn't touch me or grope me or anything like that.

Right.

But he farted around me all the time.

Especially during interviews.

This is why you notice none of these interviews are guests in studio.

They've all booked it to be outside.

You know, tomorrow

we might do an expose on this, and we ask you tomorrow to just wear a green, brownish-greenish ribbon

on your lapel tomorrow.

Some sort of a cheat.

In support of the ship.

Did you hear that?

Yeah, no, I play it one more time.

I

some sort of a cheat.

This is not a borderline issue.

That's a montage of all three clips.

Okay, I

am actually paying people to make fart montages.

I am re-evaluating a fartage?

A fartage.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

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