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So, Mr.

Stew last night

he says he doesn't like superhero movies.

He doesn't like any of those comic book movies.

I convinced him yesterday to go see Joker.

I'll be expensing the ticket.

Was it?

Wait.

You convinced me?

You just said it on the air.

It's on record.

The IRS, you heard it.

So which

way did this roll?

Because every time he goes to see a movie that I like that's a superhero movie, he hates it.

So which way did it go?

We'll talk about that.

And

some really interesting updates on Elon Omar and impeachment all coming up.

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Today, we're going to begin to take a further look on how unusual this entire impeachment process is.

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All right.

I'm excited about, you mentioned my Joker viewing yesterday.

I'm kind of more interested in another viewing party that happened in the United States of America last night.

Don't know what you're talking about.

I think you do know what I'm talking about because you mentioned it to me off the air, and now I'm making you mention it honestly.

That were things off the air now, wasn't it?

It was off the air initially, but do you not, Does your audience not deserve the information that's important to have information to say about that last night?

Let's just say

you certainly, yes, you have the ability to speak in general terms.

Well, why don't you do it?

Well, I don't have whatever restrictions you have.

Let's just say that I

got an email

last night from

some

people on capitol hill

and they were burning the midnight oil and uh they were uh

they were all sitting together and um

and they were watching the special last night together

because uh people on capitol hill uh-huh so just like maybe some blaze subscribers came up to capitol hill and had their phones out could be watching it could be could be people that uh can do something about it as well.

But I can't say.

I don't know.

Well, you do know.

You can't say it's true, but you don't know.

How was

Joker last night?

I was Joker last night.

Well, hold on.

I want to make sure we get a little bit further into this.

I have nothing to say here.

I have nothing to say here.

Do you think that there potentially is some, there might be some movement

on what you talked about in the special.

Is that fair to say?

I wouldn't know, Stu, but I would imagine that there are people that are, you know, possibly,

you know, thinking about,

you know, their own investigations.

I don't know.

I wish I did, and I wish I could tell you, but

how was Joker last night?

This is all you're going to give us.

That's all I'm going to give you.

That's more than I'm going to give you.

That's it.

I'd be surprised to hear you already gave it, so you can't take it back.

Hey, I would would like to now hear about Joker.

All right.

I'll let you off the hook for the moment.

Okay, thank you.

Joker last night went to go see it on your request.

Work time.

No, it wasn't.

Yes, no, it was.

It was.

And I will say, I went to Nalamo Draft House, which is a dine-in theater.

So the food also included in that work trip.

Right.

So, just so you know, when the expense report comes out.

All right, all right, all right.

Get to Joker.

Joker, I really, really liked it.

It was really good.

I got to say,

all of your,

I will say, very rarely does Glenn Beck provide an accurate movie review.

It is not something he does well.

He doesn't understand movies, doesn't understand films, doesn't understand art.

I mean, frankly,

even as the 100th most important person in the world of art, as you were named by some art magazine

several years ago,

you know, I don't always agree with your movie choices.

But really, I think you actually outlined it really well.

And again, no spoilers here.

I will not give you any spoilers on this movie.

It is very dark.

Everything that I've heard about it, and it's funny because there's been a lot of fighting on both sides about, like, well, actually, this is true and this is true.

Kind of everything I thought of, everything I've heard about it,

it was all wrong and right.

Because

you know,

like, first of all, people presented it as this right-wing thing.

And this is something that is, this is not a spoiler, it's been out there, and that it's absolutely a left-wing movie.

No, no, no.

CNN said this is this is a white man.

This is the, what would they call it, white man guilt or white man

syndrome where the white man is just tired of everything being taken away from him and given to other people?

That's that's that has nothing to do with it.

No,

it's Occupy Wall Street.

I mean, if you will go back to the Occupy Wall Street era, you will see so many themes and Antifa as well.

It's very much a movie.

The themes are almost identical to that.

And does not glorify it.

Yeah, I,

you know, I can also understand

the

initial think piece, you know,

I can too.

Burst we got where they talked about how this will be seen for these types of people on the left, by the way, largely.

Yeah.

But it will be seen

by these types of people who are on the edge anyway as

like a best case scenario for me doing something terrible.

Yeah, I think if you're mentally ill or in antifa, which I think are interchangeable,

I think you could see this as a trigger.

Yeah, and like that is not the responsibility of a filmmaker.

A filmmaker has a responsibility to make a good movie, makes a good film.

Doesn't matter.

Like none of that matters to me.

You have zero responsibility as to whether you're starting a revolution or not.

Like that's how I am an extremist on this one.

A person who's an artist, a person who's a commentator, a person who is a journalist, your job is not to micromanage what you think the reaction to your story will be.

Your job is to write the right stories.

Your job is to write the right movie.

Your job is to write the right song, whatever it is.

And you can't sit here and think, well, I shouldn't put this part in because it might make some crazy person do something crazy.

But you can totally see, and this is, I thought this is a fascinating part of it.

You totally see how you would get that out of the movie if you wanted to.

But I thought it was fascinating in that, like, how many times have conservatives complained about themes in movies?

We've complained about, you know, you're pushing this agenda.

You're saying X, Y, and Z is going to happen coming out of a movie, whether it's, you know, pushing a, you know, whether it's gay rights agenda or some crazy feminist agenda or some crazy liberal agenda.

We complain about this often, and we're always laughed at.

Look at how Brokeback Mountain turned all the cowboys gay.

They're all gay now.

They're all gay now.

Yeah.

I mean I live in Dallas.

I know.

And

it's one of those things where they constantly laugh us out of the room whenever we say, hey, there's a theme in this movie and it might be influencing the way people think, the way people, you know, that's crazy.

That's crazy.

Only inhumanity to animals.

Yeah.

And smoking.

Right.

And here's an example where they are on the exact opposite side, where they're saying, well, you know, this is, of course, going to influence people because they see it, they are able to paint this thing as, well, it's right-wing violence somehow.

Again, there's nothing in the movie that would indicate right-wing violence at all.

He's just, I mean, the only thing is the left, and this is so revealing about how generalist they are in their thinking, is they just see, well, there's been people, a couple, who have been loners and dangerous people who have done terrible things that have associated themselves with the right.

I mean, I would argue more with the left, but whatever, they only see the right-wing ones.

And so they're able to say, well, this guy's a loner and therefore he's right-wing when there's no, I mean, he's no wing.

I mean, it's not a political movie, we should point out.

But it is a fascinating thing that when the media wants to see something that can hurt the right, movies are influential.

They're moving opinion.

They're making people do things.

When it's something where

the right is concerned that the opinion might be moved by the left, then it's like, what are you talking about, you weird prude?

How can you think that a movie would affect people the way they think?

You guys are just paranoid.

We're not doing that until they admit it five years later, right?

But it was

separating the two out.

Number one, it was a really good movie, really well done.

Great film.

Joaquin Phoenix is as good as everybody says he is.

I mean, it really is how it's been kind of covered.

And secondarily, you can see the themes kind of everyone's talked about.

Where everyone from the initial think piece wave of like it does

if you if you're already psychotic and you're sitting in a room considering uh shooting up a movie theater you can see how

it would feel like wow like this could happen to me this wonderful glorious thing where it's being glorified on the other side if you're a sane person you're going to see this as well this is a very dark awful person doing very dark awful things um who was you know certainly pushed in an ugly direction and that sometimes you do feel bad for him.

The best movies are ones where they can do that, right?

Where they can paint the full sort of breadth of a character where it's not just this easy thing where I hate X.

Yeah, it's not

fall into a vat of acid.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

That's what I like about this is

he is

he's real.

You know there are people like this out there, and he's real.

And you could see this actually happening in real life, all the way to the green hair and the outfit, right?

It makes sense in real life.

And he plays a very sympathetic character

for

three quarters of the movie.

And you hear him.

And what the media should be talking about is how people don't feel as though they're heard.

They can't talk about that because they're on their own agenda and they're not listening.

They're not listening to half of the country, Brexit.

They're not listening to the voters in England.

And so that's the real problem because he wouldn't have been that way if he, if people would have listened to him and treated him with some

basic dignity and respect.

And we've seen that before.

It doesn't always work.

I mean, a lot of some people, there are mental issues.

Oh, and he's deeply mentally disturbed.

Yeah, you know, it's an interesting interesting thing that when you talk about mass shooters, one of the things they talk about specifically, and it's one of the reasons why I don't ever say their names, you know, is because these guys go through their whole lives

with the main complaint of their life being nobody listens to me.

And then they see that when they commit a mass shooting, it's the one time everybody's interested in what they think.

No spoiler, but what he writes in his diary.

Yeah, right.

I mean, that's...

Sure.

And they go back to that over and over again.

And that's one of the reasons why I don't want to ever give anyone that satisfaction.

I don't want anyone to know.

And I think it's what the media should do, I believe, because it's not relevant information either.

It's not important what their motivation is.

It's important to investigators.

It's not important to you and I.

All right, can we just talk about the storyline here in a sec?

Well, yeah, you've already, you're all, I don't want to give any spoilers, though.

I don't want to give any spoilers out either, but I just want to.

You don't want to give any spoilers out, and yet yet you came after me with

what was happening in Washington last night.

Well, that's not a spoiler.

That's an important development of the country.

That's a movie spoiler.

That's a spoiler.

But I want to know the end of that one.

I'm not giving the end of either of them.

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while many reviewers have focused on Arthur Fleck, otherwise known as the Joker, as an incel hero, his status as a sexless loner who turns to violence, the true nature of the movie's appeal is actually broader.

It's an insidious validation of the white male resentment that helped bring Donald Trump to power.

You've got to be kidding me.

This is CNN.

That is a review written by someone who did not see the movie.

Like, that's how that reads.

I don't know how you can watch that movie and think that after watching it.

Well, it goes on.

Joker at its core is the story of the forgotten man.

And yes, that is true.

I don't think it is.

That's the conversation I had right after.

I thought it was absolutely about the forgotten man.

The forgotten man, I mean, as Amity Schlase wrote in her book and

is sort of

the concept that Trump took advantage of during the election is not about an incel.

No, it's about a hardworking American with a family that gets overlooked by elites, essentially.

Okay, so

here is, may I make the case on The Forgotten Man.

Sure.

The Forgotten Man is something that came really from the depression when politicians promise you that they are going to fix something by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.

Where that money usually comes from is the middle.

And so you're transferring the wealth of the middle to the government and then to the poor.

The uber rich get away with it.

I mean, the uber rich are not paying for, I mean, I'm talking about people like Kennedys, that they're not paying

income tax.

And so the income tax is only hit on the either very new entrepreneurial rich, and I'm not talking about Silicon Valley rich, I mean people who are making $500,000 a year or a million dollars a year and they just because they just their business just took off.

They are paying and so are the people all the way down to 65,000.

They pay that rich, that transfer of wealth.

And nobody's talking about them.

They talk about the poor, they talk about the rich, but nobody's talking about the people in the middle.

That's what this underlying theme is in this movie: the rich, the rich, they're screwing you, they're screwing all of us.

You know, even all the people that are working, you know, for the government are talking about, they just don't care about us.

They don't care about us.

And so it is this

forgotten man that does play in to

what's happening in today's world.

In many ways, though, I mean, Gotham is how Elizabeth Warren sees America.

Yes.

This is the left-wing Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren vision of what America is really like.

This terrible place where evil rich people are constantly abusing

the poor people and the middle class because they don't care about them and they are completely selfish in their wonderful dinner parties while everyone else is outside suffering.

That's what Elizabeth Warren thinks of us.

That's what Elizabeth Warren thinks of this country, which is why she thinks it has to be changed into some socialists.

You take the Elizabeth Warren view of

stately Wayne Manor and Thomas Wayne.

Was that in his first name?

The dad, Thomas?

Thomas Wayne.

That is the view for at least half of the movie.

It changes, but at least half of the movie kind of paints Thomas Wayne as this evil rich guy.

Yeah,

that whole circle of people, though, is who she targets with every single policy.

Correct.

And of course, as we all know, you can't get enough money from those people to pay for the policy she's talking about.

She has to take it from everybody.

She has to take it from the middle class.

She has to take it from the working people, but that's not how she talks about it.

Correct.

But that's how eventually you feel.

Because there's this middle that is like, wait a minute,

how come I'm not getting anything here?

Who's looking out for me?

That's not the Joker, but that is the feel of the presentation, I think.

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Pat Gray,

the host of Pat Gray Unleashed.

I don't know how that happened.

We had a show named Pat Gray Unleashed, and then Pat Gray showed up.

So we thought...

That's when people get Lou Gehrig's disease.

Right.

That's weird.

Right.

I mean, how odd Lou Gehrig himself gets the disease.

You'd think you'd avoid that.

Yeah.

You know, shaking hands with people with that disease, you'd be like, hey, I'm not Lou Gehrig's, but I have a Lou Gehrig disease.

And you're like, I can't meet you.

Right.

Right.

May I congratulate you on your bold fashion statement, by the way, today?

That is the finest ascot you've worn all week.

It's not an ascot.

Finest ascot I've seen this week.

It's not an ascot.

It's great.

You're already going to say number one on Tuesday?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, so far this week.

It's his best ascot.

It's not an ascot.

What is it?

It's not an ascot.

Exactly.

What would you call that?

It's a

scarfette?

It's a cowboy scarf.

A handkerchief.

It's a handkerchief.

Yeah, it's a cowboy scarf.

See, it goes with the

cowboy.

There's just not enough handkerchiefs worn around people's necks anymore.

Thank you for bringing that back.

You're welcome.

When you have a neck as fat as mine, you do anything to cover it.

That's what I do.

That's true.

I do have a neck as fat as yours, and I don't do anything to cover it.

Well,

maybe you should think about that.

Don't look into handkerchiefs.

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That's a little local flavor there.

Good job.

That's what they used to say in the Civil War.

I don't understand the reference.

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Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Good.

All right.

So, Pat.

Yes.

Welcome to the program.

Thank you.

Have you heard that Elon Omar has gotten a divorce?

Yes, and it's all the fault of the media.

Right.

I mean,

she was sleeping with some other man's husband while she was married to another man.

I just, I, that had nothing to do with it, I think.

Thank you very much.

It was her political foes.

Yeah, right.

She has been the object of speculation and innuendo from political opponents in the media.

And

so she is,

it took a toll on

Ahmad and their three children and Ilan.

Persecution.

It really was.

It really was.

Pointing out that,

hey, you

seem to be sleeping with another guy.

Apparently, that was hard on the marriage.

Huh.

Yeah.

When have spouses gotten so picky about this?

I don't know.

That's just

as soon as the press started pointing things out like that, you know.

Pathetic.

You know, they didn't do that to John F.

Kennedy.

No, they didn't.

And his marriage lasted.

They had a happy marriage.

Oh, blissful, I'm sure.

All right.

So what else is on your docket here?

I'm kind of thinking about a few things.

One is the Kurd pullout, the pullout in northern

Syria, leaving the Kurds exposed.

In fact, it seems that we're pulling out for the specific purpose.

Yeah.

Turks can come in and demolish it.

It's an interesting comment

about us

that every time there is a chance to let the Kurds be slaughtered, we do it.

We do it.

You know, like, does anybody want us to leave this area?

Is there anybody that wants to kill the Kurds?

Killing the Kurds.

Going once.

Going.

Syria, Turkey.

All right.

Anybody else?

Suddenly old to the Turks.

Anybody else?

Right.

And think about this.

You go back to the mid-80s when Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds and killed 8,000 to 15,000 people, and we did nothing.

Well, I'm sorry.

We took part in 17 UN resolutions, and we threatened to write an 18th if they did it again.

I remember it.

I remember it.

Now, Pat, you do know that these are not the same Kurds.

Yeah, well, they're Syrian Kurds.

The Syrian Kurds are

Marxist communists.

Yes.

Yeah.

And now they've been helping us because we buy into this stupid, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And it's not only they've been helping us, they actually fought the war.

Yeah.

You know, Trump says, well, we gave them all kinds of money and equipment.

Yeah, because they fought our war.

Right, so we didn't have to to get our guys killed right right i mean i they look they were pretty damn good allies of this thing they were as far as getting rid of us

big part of it big part of it yeah so now turkey is going to uh come in and kill all the kurds and likely many christians as well there i shouldn't say that what did they say they were going to relocate them Isn't that what it was?

Repopulate.

They're going to repopulate the region.

Yes, they're going to repopulate it.

What does that mean?

So they're going to get rid of the current population.

Rid of

Introduce a new

population.

Look, that is, I mean, it's been done before in history.

Hitler did it.

Stalin did it in Ukraine.

Mao did quite a bit of that.

Right.

You just, you get those people go off to like a summer camp or they go

a camp.

It could go all any season.

You don't want to specify necessarily summer, but it's a camp.

Right.

Those people just go away and nobody asks about what happens to them.

And then new population population comes in and takes their shoes.

Because they don't have to be in the house.

Don't pester in their personal lives.

What their choices are of where they wind up going is none of your business.

Don't ask about them.

It's just a happier place.

It's better.

That's what you need to know.

Maybe it's an eternal place, a place where they can live forever.

You know?

And the end of tears.

The ass.

Yes, the end of tears.

Let me ask you this, Pat, because I'm with you.

I hate this policy.

I hate this policy policy because we always

abandon the Kurds.

We did it three times in Iraq.

Right.

Maybe four.

We're doing it again here to the Syrian Kurds.

What does it take?

I don't know.

More than Kurds.

We know that.

More than Kurds.

If we could just get some whey in there, we would be all right.

Now,

here's the thing.

We know that Turkey likes to murder people.

They don't mind a good genocide from time to time.

Now, why are you saying that?

I mean, that's

a safe statement.

Only because they've done it.

So they're going to go in and they're going to move the Christians and the Kurds.

Translation, genocide.

Unless they're sending in moving vans.

Who knows?

Maybe they show up with Turkish U-Hauls and they move the Turks to a nicer place.

You know what?

That's possible.

You know what?

The Germans did take all of those children in ambulances

to a better place.

To a better place.

To a better place.

Right.

It's right.

To me, it's shameful.

And, you know, President Trump said he spoke to everybody.

Did anybody ever say, yeah, we should withdraw right now?

Well, that's the thing.

I can't imagine it.

I kind of feel like this, a policy like this comes down the same way Donald Trump references putting alligators in moats, which is,

I ran on this.

I've asked for it a million times.

Every time I ask for it, you guys say I can't do it.

Now you've been saying that for so long.

Screw it.

Just do it.

Yeah.

And I think that's how these things come down.

Now, remember.

But that fits into what George Bush told me.

Remember George Bush in the Oval Office?

He said, look, the next guy and the guy after that, they're all going to see that they have no real options because they're going to get the same advice that I'm getting.

Yeah, the same information.

Same information.

So he's one of these guys who says, screw it, let's just do it.

You know, and I think he does that.

Again, you don't issue military orders on Twitter.

That's not how it occurs, which is why last time he tweeted about this, nothing happened, right?

Mattis left, but they didn't do the actual pullout that he said he was going to do.

So

until they actually do this, should we even react to it?

I mean, last time they said this, they said they were going to do this.

They didn't even do it.

You know, I think there's a lot, there's a lot of, there could be a part of this that's Trump saying, look, I'm sick of waiting.

I've been saying I want this done.

I've got a year before I'm up for re-election.

I promise to get this done.

If for some reason he does lose, who knows what the next person does.

I want this over with before I leave,

if I happen to lose.

And here's the situation: get it done, or I'm going to pull them all out.

And this is his way of motivating people to figure out some other way of doing it.

Last time he did this.

This is the way the restoring honor happened.

This is the way restoring courage happened.

And you've got your Trumpian aspect.

Oh, I definitely all notice.

Because what I do is when everybody says no, I just go on the air and say, we're doing this.

And they're like, oh, crap.

Let's work out a way.

Then they have to find a way.

And I do think that is just part of this.

It's just bad timing.

No, it is.

Because I want

to get home as well.

Right.

Can we have another conversation?

Another conversation.

You're the president of the United States, and

you truly believe that, because I think you do, and I do.

I don't know about Stu.

He's still a little bit of a

neocon.

I don't know if you've been accused of that one.

You don't spend enough time on Twitter.

So

here's the thing.

If

I believe, you believe, president believes, we've got to change our policies.

We've got to stop getting entangled in everybody else's war.

And we can't plant democracy in places where they don't understand it, nor do they want it.

And we're not the world's policemen.

Well, we got ourselves roped into this one, so we're there.

Well, yes, we are.

But maybe it's time to come home.

Well, if we pull out, it'll cause a vacuum.

Yes, it will.

It will.

But when can we pull out?

How do you get there from here?

Right.

And so I think that the advice around the president is most likely, you can't, Mr.

President.

You can't because of this and this and this.

Well, okay, I'm just telling you, I'm going to pull out at some point.

Where do, give me away, give me away.

Nobody gives me away.

Well, okay, guys, I asked you six months ago.

I asked for some plans.

It's your job at the Pentagon to come up with some plans to get us out of there.

I'm telling you, get us out of there.

Yes, but Mr.

President, the State Department and the Pentagon, they both think that this is, I don't care.

I'm the president.

Give me a plan.

And when they don't give him a plan, that's when he says, goes on Twitter.

Fine, we're out.

We're out.

I'm going to force the issue.

Yeah, I think that's probably what happened.

And look, he's a good person.

And tell me what we do.

But tell me what we do.

Do we fight their war?

Do we fight another war?

Do we get into a fight with Turkey?

No.

But Turkey doesn't want to fight with us either.

So you just take a stand and you say, no, we're not doing that.

And what you're committing to here, right, is this is happening.

We're young.

If it happens, we're not going back in.

Out of your way and you do what you will to the Kurds.

You know, Trump tweeted about how he would basically seemingly put sanctions on Turkey if they did something bad, right?

Like he would go to that route.

I mean, that's probably our fallback, right?

If they do something that the president doesn't like, he's going to come after their economy.

Really well.

Well,

they've done some damage in Iran.

They're not completely ineffective.

But I mean, I think what you're saying here, it's like you just want to tell the Kurds, look, we're leaving.

If you want to leave too, probably a good time.

But if you want to stay, you're fighting your own battle.

That's essentially what's happening here, right?

It's essentially what happened.

We'll back you up on the financial stuff, but we're done with this.

And it's important to understand that our American troops in Syria are not not on the front lines.

They're not fighting these battles.

You know, the Kurds really are fighting this war for us.

We are helping advise.

We're helping with airstrikes.

We're helping with

tools and resources.

But we're not really, it's not like our troops are under constant fire in Syria.

No, and it's also important for our troops because

not Al-Qaeda, ISIS is not dead and will come back.

And Iran is moving now towards the Mediterranean.

And they've got 15,000 ISIS fighters in prisons right now.

What's going to happen to all of them when we pull out?

Are they going to remain or are they going to be set free again?

Eventually.

Are those the only two options?

Well, you could kill them.

Okay.

So there's two out of the three I like.

I'm just saying.

I'm just saying.

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How are you doing, gentlemen?

Good.

How are you?

Pretty good.

Hey, I was been listening to you talking about Trump and his statement pulling out of Syria this morning.

And

as much as I hate to admit it, and I understand

the pain and suffering that's going to come from it, I've got to agree on

this one with him.

There is no exit strategy out of that area.

There is no winning solution and there never has been and never will be.

We're not the first ones over there that have tried to solve these problems.

The

it's it's an ideal an

ideological problem that's been going on for generations and generations, and they will continue to war, they will continue to fight against each other, and they will continue against

any civilization or ideology that doesn't coincide with theirs.

And

that's just the way of the world.

That is, it's written in history.

Yeah.

And I don't know.

I don't know that we stay there and keep spending our our money and our blood and sending loved ones in there for a conflict that can never be won.

Chris,

I think this is one of the more difficult positions

and decisions that we have had to make if you are a

thoughtful person when it comes to war and what we're doing over there, here are people, the Christians are going to be killed.

I think what we should concentrate on is getting those Christians out of there if we can,

and making sure that they're not, it's just not a mass genocide.

If there is a mass genocide, it will be on

this country's head in a way, because they're telling us they're going to do that.

And people usually follow through on those kinds of promises.

Thank you so much for your phone call.

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Ilan Omar.

Ilan Omar.

Ilan Omar.

Ilan Omar.

U.S.

Representative Ilan Omar suggested yesterday that the press and her political foes are partly to blame for the demise of her marriage.

I I wonder what the other parts are.

Anyway, Ilan and Ahmed have been the object of speculation and innuendo from political opponents and the media.

She doesn't mention her brother here.

How does he feel?

This has taken a significant toll on Elan, Ahmed, and their three children.

As with all marriages, including all three of hers, this is intensely personal and a difficult time for their family.

Just like any family navigating this kind of transition, Elon wishes to have the privacy, their privacy respected for themselves and their children and will not be commenting on anything any future in the future.

So nothing new to be

no, she somehow is the one person on earth who can avoid commenting to media about a pending story.

Everyone else has to give comments.

Everyone else has to, it's a big story when they don't.

But for Elon O'Mar, she gets to just keep rolling through this with no answers to these questions about potential crimes.

You know what?

What broke up the other family?

You know, the one she was having an affair with, the husband that was married?

Was that the press, too?

It was the press as well.

Yeah, press is causing a lot of her actions.

Wow.

Our political foes were responsible for that?

Yeah, political foes.

Were we the ones lighting the candle at the dinner between the two?

Would you consider me a political foe?

Probably.

Yeah, I think that's the first thing.

So I made the reservations for their first.

Did you really?

Why would you?

I just, as a foe,

I had a real incentive to break up their marriage.

Yeah, well, that's interesting.

You were involved in the table in the restaurant.

Really?

I ordered a nice bottle of champagne.

I shouldn't have done it.

I shouldn't have done it.

It's my fault.

Man.

Their marriage breaking up is my fault.

See, and I'm glad to hear you say that because I thought breaking up the future marriage with the boyfriend she's been cheating on, I thought I have to take that one on me.

Oh my gosh, you're kidding me.

No.

We've been, you know, sleeping together.

We haven't been doing anything, but we've been sleeping together.

You and Ilan O'Marr.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you know, guys, I was reading her history here.

You know, she got married to this guy, the one she's breaking up with in 2002, but the union was not recognized legally.

Right.

The couple had two children together and separated in 2008.

She then married someone else in 2009, then it was official.

In 2009.

That was a Christian marriage.

A Christian marriage.

Even though she's not a

Christian.

Then they reportedly split in 2011.

He returned to the UK.

She'd never see him again, except for all the times they interacted on social media.

But then they weren't legally divorced until 2017.

They reconciled with this past husband in 2012 and then stayed together, then got married officially in 2018.

No, sorry, divorced 2017, married 2018.

18, which leads you to the moment.

Was that a Muslim marriage?

That was it.

I don't know.

I think that was.

Okay, I think that was.

She's as nuts a girlfriend as you'd think she'd be, right?

Like, that's what you get from this stream of events.

And the least, well, the least

thing I would come to expect least would be her dating you next.

And now you're saying that's happening.

No, no, look at this is you're a foe of hers.

You're a foe of hers.

So you see it that way.

Yes.

You see a woman who's flighty and is

the bee flying from flower to flower to flower

or the flower flying bee to bee to bee.

And that's not that's that's not the way it is.

She's just super, super religious.

So she had a Muslim marriage.

She's had a Christian marriage.

And we're talking now about a Hindu marriage.

So

not going to be serving steak.

We will not be serving steak.

That's good, because

it would not get a good reception at a Hindu marriage.

You will like this one.

You'll like this one.

There you go.

No steak.

Super vegetarian wedding.

Hindu.

Hindu.

We prefer to call it Hindu.

Right.

Yes.

I didn't mean the name of the religion was vegetarian.

Please lay off her because she's a sweet, sweet lady who just, it

takes her Muslim faith so seriously, you know, that she advocates for Sharia law and has a, you know, a Christian marriage, even though her husband that she's marrying is her brother, but also a Muslim

and

now a Hindu, Hindu marriage.

So the stability is

questionable for someone who's leading us to a multi-trillion dollar spending future.

It doesn't mean anything just because she can't stay loyal.

Well,

that's one way to put it, yeah.

But it doesn't seem like she has this stuff squared away.

She's interesting.

Is she?

She's an interesting person.

I think she's interesting.

I'd like to pronounce it dangerous.

You know?

I like your

Seattle version of interesting.

As we pronounce it dangerous.

Wow.

Yeah.

Really different.

Well, Seattle Hindu, you know.

It's like tissues and Kleenex, kind of.

Exactly.

Exactly right.

One is just a little different than the other.

So it wouldn't be as big an issue if she weren't potentially on the hook for crimes that she's committed and will not answer for.

But also apparently shaping our future as the face of the Democratic Party.

It's like, hey, who can we put up there?

What about that girl from the Maroon 5 video?

She sounds like a good shit.

She's going to lead the the nation.

Right.

She's going there.

Yeah, it's interesting that she doesn't have to answer for any crimes, and neither does the DNC.

You know,

the press is really fascinating.

And I don't know if anybody's picked up on this, but you can have actual documents, you know, like we do have on Ilanamar and let's say the DNC, Joe Biden,

Ms.

Chalupa,

and others in Ukraine.

And yet

the press doesn't seem interested in it.

Have you noticed that?

And so they don't have to answer any questions.

I'm just wondering if there's a higher authority than the press that

might want to take this up themselves.

Do you have some information on that?

I don't.

I don't.

I'm just saying.

You're just asking.

I'm just asking, is there someone maybe in Washington that might want to, I mean, you don't have any power in the House, but in the Senate, you do.

The problem with that, though, is there'd need to be something that they could watch on YouTube that would kind of distill the information for them.

We have that information.

Yeah, we have that video.

It's available now.

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Nothing is as it seems.

Last Thursday, we showed you everything the Democrats had been doing in Ukraine to get a baseline.

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So you're saying that there's a possibility that maybe some of this stuff gets looked into further.

Maybe you should expand on that.

We have a couple minutes here.

Maybe you could talk about the potentially there's a

viewing party in Washington.

I want to talk to you here

about

anything but that.

Communist China.

The latest on communist China.

So the NBA is

kind of interesting how

this is all coming undone.

People are starting to see these corporations for who they are.

Remember, they care about you.

They care about the little people.

They care about

the downtrodden.

They don't care about anybody who's in an internment camp in China.

They don't care about anybody in Hong Kong.

Certainly doesn't seem like it's the way they're acting.

Well, no, they don't.

Adam Silver is their commissioner, and he came in right before.

Remember the Donald Sterling mess with the tapes, the Los Angeles Clippers racist tapes that came out.

So he came in right before that and was pretty decisive with it and won over everybody almost immediately.

So he's had a pretty easy road through his run as NBA commissioner.

This really feels like a massive misstep, though.

They've completely, I think, misjudged what the American people would think about this on the on the right for sure, but on the left too.

I mean, look, there are a lot of people who disagree with us on what the tax rate should be that think the human rights abuses in China are a really freaking big deal.

And they have come out with this vigorous defense of the Chinese government for some reason.

Obviously, it's financial and it's business related.

And then they've come out with these horrible statements.

They've shut down

a big GM over one statement about supporting Hong Kong.

And they brought out a statement yesterday it was a disaster.

It was not received well.

It was not a good job.

They've now had a mulligan on this.

They decided to release another statement.

I mean,

it's incredible.

I recognize our initial statement left people angered, confused, or unclear on who we are or what the NBA stands for.

Let me be more clear.

When you have to release a second statement that begins with that, you're already down.

You can see the trouble.

They feel it there.

They feel it at the end of the day.

Let them feel it because they deserve to feel it on this.

Over the last three decades, the NBA has developed a great affinity for the people of China.

That has nothing to do with the story.

The idea that the Chinese government is cracking down on the citizens of Hong Kong has nothing to do with a regular person living in another part of China.

And the NBA is trying to conflate these two.

So it looks like

Daryl Mori, the GM who initially started this, is being mean to the average citizen of China by saying stand with Hong Kong because that's not what he's doing.

The average citizen of China is

under extreme propaganda.

So the average person in China thinks that the Hong Kong people are actually terrorists.

Right.

They think they're a a separatist movement, which they're, you know, they're not.

By the way, Hong Kong is part of China, so I guess these would be Chinese citizens, at least very soon.

So if you love all Chinese citizens, why are you standing against those citizens who actually are now saying, hey, I'd like to have freedom of speech and freedom to

follow the dictates of my own conscience?

Yeah.

Where's that?

Where's the love for those people?

No, it's just, you know, it comes to business relationship.

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All right, so he says we have no problem with the Chinese people.

Right.

It's a BS argument.

They go on to say this.

They go into a bunch of like, look, we understand they have different systems and we understand the diversity, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Then they go this.

It is inevitable that people around the world, including from America and China, will have different viewpoints over different issues.

You see, there's good people on both sides of this one, Glenn.

Good people on the Chinese government, communist side.

No, no, no, they're not.

What?

No, no, no.

There are those good people on the people that killed 60 million people.

There's some good people on that government.

You know what Jesse Owens?

You know what Jesse Owens said?

Not that.

That's in the documentary.

That's in the documentary.

He didn't say that.

That's a great point.

So we'll have different viewpoints on different issues.

It's not the role of the NBA to adjudicate those differences.

Well, what the hell has been going on the last couple of days?

You've been releasing statements demeaning your own play, your own star general manager's opinions.

You've had multiple teams come out.

You've pushed this side of the argument so far you're now forced to release another statement the NBA will not put itself in a position of regulating what players employees and team owners will or will not say on these issues excuse me we simply could not operate that way

that's what you are operating that way what has the last few days been all it's been is about the NBA pressuring now they maybe

we will not do it overtly we'll do it behind the scenes that's a good statement there Adam

I mean this is blatantly what they're doing.

This is horrible.

They've harassed this guy, Maury, to not only withdraw his support for Hong Kong, but to basically say, yeah, I was wrong.

China's right.

Now, that's a whole nother statement on Maury and his backbone, but come on here.

This is ridiculous.

So let me go to South Park.

Another way to go.

Here's South Park.

They did an episode on China.

Watch.

This is all wrong.

No, it's good, kids.

They're loving it.

Yeah, but I can't sell my soul like this.

I want to get away from that farm more than anything.

But it's not worth living in a world where China controls my country's art.

I don't care how many people you have.

I've got something in me that just won't let me be a part of all this.

Yeah, whatever it is, I've got it too.

Yeah.

I want to be proud of who we are, guys.

And anybody who would betray their ideals just to make money in China isn't worth a lick of spit

i mean hello this is before the controversy by the way this is every movie studio in hollywood this is

the nba the the nfl does this with other countries they're all doing it vans the tennis shoe vans they had a support hong kong protester shoe they're pulling it now

They're pulling it.

Okay, so what it sounds like would be fascinating to see if China came out more overtly for a vaunted liberal cause against a vaunted liberal cause.

Like if they came out overtly against gay marriage or something,

I would love to see that play out.

Because these companies.

I believe they're not.

You should look this up.

I'm sure they're not in signpost.

They're not supportive of gay marriage or gay people or homosexuality.

I'm pretty sure.

But I mean,

when

Charlotte is in a state that passed a law that said transgendered people need to go to the bathroom of their birth gender.

That terribly restrictive law.

In public, they pulled the all-star game out of the city of Charlotte because of this.

And yet, sickening.

In China, we're talking about millions of people who are political prisoners, and you're supporting their government over one of your own employees who barely even did anything.

Let's be clear here.

Not like he's leading an organization who's over in Hong Kong rescuing people.

He put up a tweet and it wasn't, he didn't even write the tweet.

It was a screenshot of somebody else's tweet.

Here's what I like.

Matt Stone and Trey Parker from South Park, they said, like the NBA, we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts.

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Wikipedia.

They are engaging in mass edits.

The investigation found more than 1,600 edits on 22 political-sensitive topics, such as Taiwan and the Hong Kong protests.

Of course, they're doing this.

They have

buildings full of people that all they're doing is trying to influence us.

Do you know that there's one building,

what is it,

150,000 square feet, an office building in Beijing, that the only thing they do there is try to hack our Pentagon servers?

I mean,

who thinks that China is a good friend of ours?

These companies, you've got Google and Facebook helping them, helping them track, helping them edit the news, helping them block people from getting the truth in China.

You have Apple building all their stuff over there.

And by the way, Apple also just banned the little emoji of the Taiwanese flag

because

China didn't like it.

So they banned that little emoji.

If you're in,

where is it, Hong Kong?

Taiwan or Macau, right?

Taiwan or Macau.

So

you can't use that.

Unreal.

You have the NBA absolutely folding.

What are we doing?

We think that these are our friends.

They're not our friends.

In fact,

here's the latest.

Women who have survived China's concentration camps for Muslim ethnic minorities have reported widespread rape, forced abortions, and forced sterilization and other extreme sexual human rights atrocities.

Speaking to the Washington Post, the women echo the experiences of others who have escaped the estimated thousands of concentration camps built in China.

The majority of the 1 to 3 million people trapped in these camps are believed, majority, to be Uyghurs.

Others have survived, have been able to use their marital

status as citizens of Pakistan or other neighboring countries to place pressure on Beijing to release them.

But Pakistan isn't their friend either.

Pakistan, because they have this new trading highway that's coming out of China, Pakistan wants the business.

And so they're looking the other way on all of these Uyghur camps.

They don't care.

These companies, I think, are, I've known this for a long time, they're on the wrong side.

And, oh my gosh, are they going to pay a heavy, heavy, heavy price?

In what way?

I think they're going to be viewed as.

Too much money weighs their yachts down.

Is that what you're worried about?

Yeah.

I think they're going to be viewed in the end as Nazi collaborators.

I think that they are going to be so, I mean,

look what they're doing.

They're shutting people up here in the United States with a different opinion, right?

If you talk to somebody that you disagree with and that the social justice warriors disagree with, you have to be shut down.

These companies are doing that right now.

They're part of the social justice movement.

That shines coming off the social justice movement.

I want to play two examples.

First, here is Ellen from yesterday, Ellen DeGeneres.

She was this weekend.

With George W.

Bush in Jerry Jones' Skybox here in Dallas, Texas, watching the Cowboys.

Well, people went crazy on her.

Crazy.

The social media just tore her apart.

Here's what she said.

Listen.

But during the game, they showed a shot of George and me laughing together.

And

so

people were upset.

They thought, why is a gay Hollywood liberal sitting next to a conservative Republican president?

Didn't even notice I'm holding the brand new iPhone 11.

But a lot of people were mad, and they did what people do when they're mad.

They tweet.

But here's one tweet that I loved.

This person says, Ellen and George Bush together makes me have faith in America again.

Losing the applause.

You're not hearing that on the view, are you?

Exactly.

Here's the thing.

I'm friends with George Bush.

In fact, I'm friends with a lot of people who don't share the same beliefs that I have.

We're all different, and I think that we've forgotten that that's okay, that we're all different.

For instance, I wish people wouldn't wear fur.

I don't like it, but I'm friends with people who wear fur.

fur and I'm friends with people who are furry as a matter of fact.

I have friends who should tweeze more and I have but just because I don't agree with someone on everything doesn't mean that I'm not gonna be friends with them when I say be kind to one another I don't mean only the people that think the same way that you do I mean be kind to everyone doesn't matter

Okay, now let me give you a second example.

Here's Kanye West.

He's done another one of his Sunday services

the crowds are diverse and

massive.

And it's hard to understand, but listen to him here.

That's the Republican Party.

We lost.

Because I chose my right.

In America, we got the right, right?

We got our own rights, our own opinions, right?

But Trump two likes him because of my color, who I'm supposed to pick as the president.

You black, so you can't like Trump.

I ain't never made a decision only based off my color.

That's a form of slavery.

Mental slavery.

That's a form of slavery.

So you have now

two people, pretty popular, that are coming out and they're not sitting down.

They're not sitting down.

This is the new wave that is coming.

This is the beginning of the pendulum swinging the other direction.

People do not like

this

hyper-partisanship where everything is political.

They don't like it.

And there is a freight train coming.

And these companies don't see it.

They don't see it.

Going to the Ellen thing here for a second.

Beyond the fact that it's a nice moment that I like,

I like the fact that this stuff can happen happen and she's so good at it.

But you have to remember that in our society over the past 20 years,

has there been someone who has been more persuasive culturally than Ellen?

No.

Think of when she's, you know, her, she comes into our public eye and she's the, she winds up, you know, she becomes a star on her own show.

She announces that she's gay.

And the initial reaction is like, you know, not necessarily overwhelmingly positive,

but it wasn't bad.

You know, people liked her.

But then she started kind of doing the show, and it was all about that.

You know, it seemed to be that was the focus of every episode, and people kind of got, weren't really into it.

And that's, hang on just a second.

That is where I think America still is.

Look, I don't mind you.

I don't care.

Just don't, can you not make it about everything?

Right, but what did she do?

She could have gone the activist route after that, I think, and made a case and probably been very popular and raised lots of money for liberal causes by coming coming out and saying, they shut my TV show down because blah, blah, blah.

Instead, she's been friendly with everyone.

I mean, she, you know, her show has, we've had charity auctions

here where her show has donated like free passes to go see it.

She's done all sorts of things to make.

Her producers have reached out to

people on this program.

Many.

I mean, it's not a...

They're not the buzzsaw.

And they're trying.

They're presenting themselves as human beings who are likable.

And over time, you've seen, I mean, just look at the numbers on

the issue you'd think she'd care about, gay marriage, has gone from an issue where it was in, you know, in the 90s, it was about 20%, and now it's about 60, over 60% popularity.

Now, I'm not saying Ellen's obviously completely responsible for that, but her approach has been far more effective than these activist groups.

And there's something there for us to learn, too, right?

In that not just is it a nice moment, it also works.

It's persuasive.

When people like you, they tend to agree with you more.

And if we wind up just being a group of people who, you know, who have great arguments, but everybody hates, it's not going to be, it's not effective.

It's tough because I think a lot of times we get into that sort of day-to-day back and forth of whatever issue is out there today, we have to win that and we have to fight.

And we, you know, you've got to stand up for what you believe in.

But how you do it is important too.

And if you look at the long term, if you take a longer term approach, not just winning today's tweet battle, you wind up, I think, doing things differently and over a longer period of time can actually, you know, win these battles and make real change.

And look, do what you can do.

You're not going to win every one of them.

But I think to put the best face possible on the things you believe in, you actually have to put on the best face you have possible.

I think we're at the beginning of something, and I think the left, if they're smart, will hijack it eventually, make it their idea.

But I think they are so far gone, I don't know if that's going to happen.

Can I give you one more example of this real quick?

What is probably the most effective video we've seen in years happen last week was the video of the kid who was on the stand.

His brother was murdered, killed by a cop.

She was convicted of murder, who went into the wrong apartment after going on a long day of duty.

And afterwards, she said, he said, look, I don't even want you to go to prison.

I don't,

I love you.

I want the best for you.

And I hope you look to Christ.

And can I give you a hug?

And then he came down and he gave the person who killed his brother a hug.

And then the judge came down and they all hugged.

And it was like an incredible moment, right?

Was that more effective?

Or was the reaction from activists more effective?

Listen to this.

The moment of compassion where the judge came down off the stage and gave him a hug was fiercely debated in the days after the trial.

Some praised it as a rare and much-needed moment of humanity.

Others criticized it as a potentially unconstitutional act and wondered whether a black defendant would receive similar attention in the criminal justice system.

Now, of course, they, you know, point out that the judge was black, so I don't know exactly.

And then you get this.

It was way out of bounds, said Andrew Seidel, a lawyer with the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which filed a complaint against the judge in Texas with the State State Commission of Judicial Conduct.

The group argued that Judge Kemp's decision to preach the Bible violated the First Amendment because

she gave him a Bible.

Who wins that?

Which side?

Of course, right?

Way more effective than the angry response that is just like, I don't like, this is clearly a good moment.

These are moments that you should celebrate and try to replicate, not come down on the other side.

That's why I think this approach to the impeachment is so important.

Yeah.

The one we have is not defending anybody, not getting into anybody's face.

It's just, hey, here are the facts.

Here are the facts.

This is what Obama did.

This is what Chalupa did, working with

the embassy and the DNC.

This is how the

people that went to jail in the Ukraine were convicted for interfering with our election on behalf of the DNC.

Just Donald Trump doesn't need to be mad.

He really doesn't.

He just needs to explain exactly what happened when it comes to the other side.

And look, I don't, I don't, you know, look, if you were grossed out by what the president said, okay,

I can see that.

I can see that.

If you thought that it was illegal,

Well, let's talk about that.

We should look at that.

I don't see it yet, but I can give you more information.

Yeah, I don't see it, but okay, we'll talk about that.

I want to make sure that we turn over every stone.

But in doing so, you got to kind of turn over every stone.

And look at this.

The ones that we don't have whistleblowers on.

We have the actual facts, and they still, they still

are not all of the facts.

There's still stuff that's happening and have happened in Ukraine that we don't have, but no one will do the investigation on.

You don't have to be angry.

You just have to state the facts.

That's what that guy did.

I don't want any kind of harm to come to you.

I know your life will be changed if you take Jesus in your heart.

And I just,

I love you and I, and I'm sorry that this happened to you, but I want you to know there's a pathway out.

That's all he's saying.

Those are the facts.

We can stick there,

but you got to be solid on the facts.

You can't do what the left is doing.

You can't be boycotting people because of bathrooms and then saying, hey, everybody, shut up.

China is a good place when

they're exterminating people.

It doesn't work.

You'll have no credibility.

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Should you be?

We have somebody who has looked into China deeply and will explain just what China is really up to.

We go there next.

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We have Bill Goertz on.

I don't think we've had Bill Goertz on for a while.

He is a

great author,

and he's written a new book called Deceiving the Sky.

And it is all about China.

And I just don't think there's a better time for this book to be talked about than right now, because people don't understand the threat that China poses.

They have two goals, China 2020 and China 2025.

And neither of those goals are good.

And I think you need to understand that.

And Bill has taken

a deep look into what is happening in China and how we got there.

And President Trump seems to be one of the only people that have been willing to take on China.

We talk to Bill Goertz next.

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These companies and organizations like the NBA and the way the NBA has come out and just kiss the butt of China is not only disgusting, but I think they're going to be remembered as

enablers or,

you know,

allies of war criminals.

You know, these companies like Krupps

and IBM that actually aided the Nazis in what they were doing.

There are a lot of companies that are going to wake up, I think, shortly and find out, uh-oh, we're on the wrong side.

America, do not fall into that trap.

You need to understand understand the enemy that China really is.

There's a new book out called Deceiving the Sky by Bill Goertz.

He has a very clear look at who these people are over in China and what their goals are and how

it might pose a problem for us.

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He has really done his homework on China, and there couldn't be a better time for this book to be coming out.

Welcome to the program, Bill Bill Gertz.

Hi, Glenn.

Great to be on the show.

Yeah, great to have you.

So, Bill, first of all, I have to ask, the title of the book is Deceiving the Sky.

Can you explain what that means?

Yeah,

it comes from ancient Chinese strategy.

The Chinese communists today, despite being communists, are steeped in ancient strategy.

And this dates to, everyone is familiar with Sun Tzu, the guy who said, the acne of skill is defeating your enemy without firing a shot.

Well, there's also a book from the same period called The 36 Strategies.

The first of those is Deceive the Sky to Cross the Ocean.

And it's a story about a Chinese general in this warring states period where he had to convince the emperor to go to war to a neighboring province.

And basically he deceived the emperor into getting onto a boat and going across.

And the emperor had to decide, does he turn back or go to war?

He goes to war.

So the meaning behind this is that to defeat your enemy, you must be willing to deceive the sky.

And in China, the emperor is considered God.

So you have to even deceive God in order to achieve your goals.

And this is exactly what Communist China is doing today.

Boy, between Islam and

China, everybody seems, and Russia, everybody seems cool with lying to get their way.

And unfortunately, I think we're adopting many of those strategies.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Well, I was going to say, deception is the key to understanding the threat from China.

They are steeped in deception.

They've deceived us for the last 40 years into thinking they're not a threat, that they're a benign power, and that if you just be nice to them, that they'll turn into this free, open society.

It was a gamble that totally failed.

Now we've got this

emerging semi-superpower that wants not only to rule the world, but in order to do that, to defeat the United States.

I find what's happening with our corporations today terrifying.

Terrifying.

They know what this country is.

They know what they're doing, especially the tech companies.

They know exactly what China is doing.

And it seems the almighty dollar is greater than anything else to these people.

Well, I think we've seen that in the NBA, the craven NBA appeasement of China, where they basically said that they were going to...

First, one of their executives promoted promoted democracy in Hong Kong, and then the entire NBA kowtowed to Beijing, and it's just horrible.

This is the future if we don't push back against communist China.

All right.

So explain to people who are like, ah, China, it's not so bad.

Explain why we should care about them.

Well, like I said, we've had this 40-year gamble that if we just engage with China and trade with China, that they'll become a benign power.

And that's been an utter failure because the first thing in Deceiving the Sky, I focus a lot on communist ideology.

I even have a chapter that goes into how communists lie.

So lying is a key feature of their system.

And they've lied about what their goals and aspirations are.

And again, they see the United States as their main enemy.

They have this massive conspiracy.

They believe that there's a massive conspiracy by the United States and the West to contain socialist communist China.

And I've tried to highlight in all of these areas, from ideological threats to financial threats to military threats to intelligence threats.

It's across the board.

I've been covering this for over 30 years, and it's just, like I say, it's becoming a greater threat every day.

Like I said, this NBA case is just an egregious example of appeasement of this communist dictatorship.

So how are they specifically a threat to us?

Well, militarily, they said that they are developing weapons and capabilities like cyber attacks and lasers that can do incredible damage to us.

And like I say, I outline a scenario in the book where China could ⁇ this is a fictional scenario - where China could actually launch a global Pearl Harbor missile attack against all the ships in the U.S.

Navy and just totally knock them out.

So they're developing capabilities in preparation for a future conflict with the United States.

Another alarming area is in the area of cyber.

The U.S.

intelligence agencies have detected that China has been engaged in a cyber attacks across the board

inside of our system.

They're looking at basically how to map our electric grids so that if there's a crisis, they get inside of that grid and they shut down the electricity.

You know, we have 16 critical infrastructures, transportation, electric, all that, But when you come down to it, there's really only one critical infrastructure, and that's the electric grid.

And we know they've been inside of it mapping it and preparing for future attacks.

And play devil's advocate, Bill?

Sure.

I hope we're doing the same thing to them.

Well, I hope so, too.

And I have not heard what we're doing, but the problem has been, and again, that would be an intelligence function.

The U.S.

government has been engaged in a massive intelligence failure related to China.

And that failure is that they have under-assessed it.

I can remember back in 1999 going to the DIA and getting a briefing on the Chinese military.

And then afterwards,

this colonel came in the room and said, the general would like to see you.

The general was the director of the DIA.

And we sat down in a windowless conference room, and he said to me, he said, Bill,

China is not a threat.

And I was shocked.

And I said,

why do you say that?

And he said, well, because of their statements.

And, well, it turns out that two years later, there was a Chinese spy working inside the Defense Intelligence Agency.

And the general was reflecting those views.

So this is how China has influenced our views of their system.

Talk to me a little bit about

the

China 2025 and China 2020.

One is internal looking, if I'm not mistaken, and the other is external, correct?

Well,

there's a number of different programs.

The China 2025 was their economic program to basically corner the world market on all of the high technology areas,

most notably 5G.

They have other programs here called the Thousand Talents Program, where they're siphoning off and hiring scientists and others to go back to China and give them that expertise.

And after the White House under the Trump administration revealed this China 2025 program, guess what?

They decided, uh-oh, we better not talk about this anymore.

We tipped our hand.

Now the West knows what we're up to.

So they kind of made a mistake in revealing that.

And China 2020 is the control of their people,

which I don't think people understand their social credit system here.

I don't think you can't say, hey, we love China and we just want to do business with China and expect us to have an open and friendly relationship when they are really tracking and imprisoning their entire population.

It's Hitler's dream system.

It is a total, I call it high-tech totalitarianism.

I was in

in Beijing in June of 2018 with then Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and I felt like it was an information desert.

You couldn't access the Internet freely.

You couldn't get social media.

You couldn't go on Google and do searches

that we do so commonly every day.

They are into total control.

And again, this goes back to the Clinton administration during the 90s where Clinton was a believer in unfettered engagement.

He said, let's give them all this high technology.

He said, trying to

control the Internet would be like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall.

Well, the Chinese are very close to nailing Jell-O to the wall in terms of controlling the Internet.

And if I'm not mistaken, he was the first one to sell them a supercomputer.

Well, it was across the board.

I like to point out to people that under this engagement policy, one of the worst global security failures took place.

And that was under Clinton, they decided we were going to share nuclear cooperation with the Chinese.

So we sent our nuclear weapons laboratory scientists to China.

They sent theirs to the U.S.

And within a few short years, the CIA concluded that China, through espionage, obtained secrets on every deployed warhead in the U.S.

arsenal.

They then spread that technology to Pakistan, and then Pakistan further spread it through the AQCon nuclear supplier network to North Korea, Iran, Syria, and Libya.

And we learned this in 2003 when we took down the Libyan nuclear program.

There were Chinese language documents on how to make a small warhead for a missile.

I can't think of a greater

disaster for U.S.

and global security than trading nuclear cooperation with the Chinese.

So I want to go to kind of what you're talking about, espionage.

But it's espionage on a global scale.

And here in America, I don't think people really understand how much they have stolen from us and what the ramifications are.

We'll go there with Bill Gertz in just a second.

The name of the book is Deceiving the Sky.

If you want to know what China really is, you know, you happen to be playing ball for the NBA, you might want to pick this book up before you make an apology.

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So they have been stealing technology from us

like crazy.

Can you give us a highlight of this?

Sure.

Yeah, first off,

the White House put out a report last year, and the title was China's Economic Aggression Against the United States.

There was a big fight in the White House.

The pro-China traders said, oh, you can't say that.

You can't say economic aggression.

And they said, well, yes, we can.

And one of the reasons was, is they outlined in this report that China is obtaining between $250 billion and $600 billion annually in American intellectual property and high technology.

No nation can survive, especially when our economy is so wedded to the high-tech sector.

So

this gives you a sense

of how serious the problem is.

And it's not that they're stealing

books from us.

They've always just taken, I've got a Chinese copy of Harry Potter that's not Harry Potter, but it is Harry Potter.

They don't care about things like that.

But they are going even to places where you're building turbines and they didn't know how to build a turbine, and they'll say, okay, we'll buy these turbines from you, but one of our people has to be there to witness the whole thing.

When they do, they hack into the site,

they take all of the technology, all the know-how, and then they can't, in this particular case, they canceled the contract on the turbines.

Yeah,

it's unbelievable the scope of the intellectual property theft and acquisition.

I mean, it ranges from government secrets, and I highlight that in the book, about how they stole the C-17

design information worth $3.4 billion from Boeing, and then they went out and built their own Y-20 transport.

The same thing.

They also stole secrets on our fighter jets.

So on the commercial side, again, it's, again, a staggering amount.

Trump has done something very unique.

He has basically said, look, we're not going to allow this kind of theft to take place.

And it was allowed to happen under successive Republican and Democratic administrations.

They looked the other way, they said nothing, and it continued to happen.

So Trump is saying,

just like we did in the latter stages of the Cold War against the Soviet Union when we blocked Western and U.S.

technology, he's saying, okay, let's see what kind of a Chinese economic miracle can exist without stolen U.S.

technology.

And my guess is we're starting to see a kind of decline in the Chinese economy.

So I think it's kind of working.

I will tell you this.

I'm big time against tariffs.

But what he's doing in China, I generally agree with.

5G

and Huawei

is potentially deadly to the West.

Oh, absolutely.

I mean, we are in a real national security race for this new technology.

You know, the thing to understand about 5G, it's not just a jump from 4G to 5G as the next generation.

It's really a quantum leap in the ability to move information and data at ultra-high speeds.

And that has a huge impact both commercially and for national security.

If you think of 4G as being, because it is, it's a pipeline of information.

If you think of that as a garden hose,

5G is a garden hose the size of the channel.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And they're trying to corner the market on that.

And the way they're doing that is, again, it's part of their strategy known as the Belt and Road.

They're working in underdeveloped nations to get those nations to buy into Chinese 5G infrastructure, which is like repeater cells and that kind of thing.

And once they do that, they will have access to that data.

The military is really scrambling to try and figure out a way to prevent China from cornering the market on 5G because it's going to have a significant impact on the ability to do military operations anywhere in the U.S.

or to defend the country against attacks if the Chinese control worldwide the 5G networks.

And they control all of the information.

They'll be able to hack anything if their spine is

where all of the information is traveling on.

Correct?

It's both intelligence as well as the ability to cut off or stop the use of 5G.

If they control the infrastructure, for example, they could cut off 5G,

the military's use of 5G, somewhere in the United States, which would again cripple us, just like they could cripple our satellites by firing missiles at maybe like a dozen or so satellites they could cripple it.

So these are the things they're doing.

It's really a Cold War with China, and yet there's only one side waging it, and that's Beijing.

Are we getting better with Trump?

Oh, absolutely.

It's been a tectonic shift.

I point out in the book that early

President-elect held a meeting at Trump Tower early after he was elected, and he brought together all the top tech executives and he asked them what their concerns were.

And all of them said, you have to do something about China stealing our technology, or we're not going to be able to survive.

All right, more in just a second.

The name of the book is Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy.

The author is Bill Gertz.

More in just a second.

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We're talking to Bill Goertz.

He has a new book all about China inside Communist China's drive for global supremacy.

It's called Deceiving the Sky.

And

I don't think people really understand what China is

and what it is growing into.

Bill, I had a question about intellectual theft,

intellectual property theft.

A big chunk of that is, you know, you guys talked about these real kind of overt actions of theft where they're taking things and stealing things and hacking and doing these actions that are blatantly criminal.

But there's another big chunk of this, which is essentially American companies agreeing to these standards to go over there to access this market.

And

China basically says, hey, if you want to come over here and sell your products, well, you got to give us

that technology.

And a lot of American companies, they complain about it to our government, but they wind up doing it anyway.

I mean, isn't that a huge part of this problem?

Absolutely.

I have a friend who recently retired from a Fortune 500 company in China, American company, and he explained that the Chinese, you know, this is basically a country with no rule of law, but they exploit so-called law for their economic benefit.

And in one case, what they did over there was they

passed a law that said all foreign companies must share their intellectual property and core information.

But the thing is, they never enforced it, but it was always there.

And this guy said if they enforced it, no company could do business.

They could not give up that intellectual property.

But that shows you the kind of coercive measures and quasi-legal efforts that they use to gain power over American companies.

But is it coercive?

Because these companies, for instance, Google is shameful, and so is Facebook.

Google, in particular, they just want access to the mines and the information.

And so they're willing to do business with these guys because they want to mine that information.

They want their algorithms to get better.

And they're just going over voluntarily to do this.

I mean, I think these guys are going to be remembered like Nazi collaborators in the end.

Absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

This is a huge problem.

And again, it's a result of this legacy of unfettered engagement.

The government was telling companies for decades, just don't worry about the threat from China.

There's no threat.

Just go invest over there.

Again, that's changing.

And when the government tells you that something's a threat, we're starting to see some of these companies pull out.

But then again, it may be too late in the sense that they've already pillaged so much.

In the case of Google, I highlight in the book how Google was totally craven in agreeing to develop a censored search engine for China so that China, again, it could contribute to China's high-tech totalitarianism to block sites and things that the Chinese did not want the Chinese people to see.

And

Vice President Pence gave a speech last

October of last year in which he said, Google should get rid of this.

They shouldn't be doing this.

Unfortunately, I think, and then Google was called before Congress and said, Well, no, we're not doing this, but I think the damage has already been done in that they've probably hired many of the Google scientists who were developing this censored search engine known as Dragonfly.

So, where do we stand with

China?

You know, this trade war and this Cold War that we're having.

You know, China buys a lot of our stuff from our farms, et cetera, et cetera.

We're really hurting there.

China,

you never know what the truth is with China, but

they have I saw a trend just yesterday that consumers are starting to use instant noodles instead of actual noodles over in China, which is cheaper.

So it shows that maybe they're starting to hurt down at

the very bottom.

They're building ghost cities.

They printed,

some say up to

$50 trillion in cash and put $25 trillion of that in their own

businesses.

And then the other $25 trillion, apparently, they put in U.S.

stocks and bonds and things in the West.

That can't be a sign of health.

No.

And

there are growing signs of instability.

And part of that is the actions of the current Supreme Leader, Xi Jinping, who again is the President.

He's the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China.

And he's also the head of the Central Military Commission, the barrel of the gun, as Mao said, which controls the whole system.

And he has made a major shift.

Up until 2012, when he took power, the guiding watchphrase for China was outlined by Deng Xiaoping, the post-Mao communist, who said, bide our time, build our capabilities.

Well, under Xi Jinping, they're basically on the march.

They're saying, well, we're still building our capabilities, but we're not biding our time.

He's declared something called the China Dream, which is really the Communist Party of China nightmare, which is, again, to spread this totalitarian system throughout the world and basically become the dominant superpower.

And he's doing that in a number of various ways, the most visible of which is this thing called the Belt and Road Initiative.

And it's a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure project to take over these undeveloped countries.

So where do we stand?

When we are looking to go to economic war, do we have a stronger hand?

Do they have a stronger hand?

Well, the battle is still underway politically within the Trump administration.

You have forces there primarily aligned with the Wall Street people that bailed out the Communist Party of China for many, many years.

And they want to go back to those old appeasement policies,

the false notion that if we just trade with China, everything will be okay.

So there's still a battle going on.

That said, the strongest proponent for protecting the American economy and advancing American interests is the President.

And he's aligned himself with a really good group of people that are taking action.

The trade representative, Lighthizer, Peter Navarro at the White House.

He does industrial policy.

Matt Pottinger, the deputy national security advisor.

And on the pro-China side, you basically have the Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin, who's pushing, again, to go back to the old appeasement-oriented policies.

It remains to be seen.

Trump is the art of the deal.

He could cave in if he thinks he is going to get a deal.

But I can tell you this trade deal that they are working on is not going to go anywhere.

Why do you say that?

Well, according to a senior administration official I talked to, he explained to me they had worked out in great detail a 150-page agreement with the Chinese.

They reached it in May, and they were all set to sign it, and it covered things like cyber attacks, like currency manipulation, even the export of fentanyl into the United States, which China is facilitating to exacerbate the opioid crisis.

I think, could I just say this and then you go back?

I think they are doing what

the British did to the Chinese with the opioid war.

I mean, the opium war.

There's no question.

And I think they're doing it to us.

Revenge.

Yes.

No question.

Well, this was included in this deal.

And the word is that the Chinese took this to the senior Communist Party leaders, and they said, we can't sign this agreement because it will be an admission that we had done all of these things.

And so that's kind of where things are now.

And now both sides are trying to work out a partial deal or some kind of compromises.

And the way it was explained to me is as long as Trump holds out for the real deal,

nothing's going to happen in the near near future.

That's one of the things I think is fascinating about this, the trade war as an entity, because we have something here called elections, right?

And, you know, there, they don't have to worry about that.

So, you know, with the pressure of Trump maybe getting this deal done, it would help the economy probably.

It would, you know, if we have a downturn next year in the middle of an election season, he's going to have a real incentive to get something done.

But there's no incentive for the Chinese to come along at all on these things because they don't have to worry about an upcoming election.

Yeah, you know, this is a really good point because back in October when Pence gave that speech, he talked about Chinese election meddling.

And he basically, and it didn't get a lot of attention.

Obviously, Washington has been in near hysteria for two years or three years on Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

But the real election meddling is by China.

And he said the Chinese want a different president.

In the book, I quote a guy named Kevin Freeman, and I came across Kevin when he was working for the Pentagon, and he did an unconventional warfare scenario.

And he posited that what if a nation were to trigger an economic downturn like we saw in 2008?

And of course, the Pentagon reacted.

They basically tried to

can his report.

I am very, very worried that the Chinese in October or some type in September of 2020 could try to trigger an economic downturn that would have political ramifications for Trump.

Kevin actually works for The Blaze and does a show on The Blaze.

I'm very familiar with him, and I think he's spot on.

I think he's spot on, and I think you're spot on on that.

Just let me ask one last question.

What does the world look like if America continues to bend over and

not draw a line in the sand with China?

What does America and the world look like in 2030?

To me,

it's not an America that I would want to live in.

It would be a totalitarian nightmare.

And I think we're seeing the first blushes of this with this NBA controversy of how

one of their executives supported democracy in China, and the entire NBA just

prostrated itself in front of the Chinese in a bid to try and gain access to that market.

This would be a horrible world if the Chinese take control.

Like I say, it's an existential threat.

It's not climate change, like the Democratic presidential candidates like to say.

It's communist China.

Bill, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

You follow him, GertzFile.com.

His name is Bill Gertz, and the name of the book is Deceiving the Sky.

You want to understand the future?

You want to understand future war?

You want to understand why we must

stop

coddling China.

Read this book, Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy by Bill Gertz.

Thank you, Bill.

Ah, I wanted to ask him if there really was a General Cao.

There was.

Oh, there was?

Okay.

There was.

Okay.

Yes.

I figured he'd have this story in in the book.

I assume

that's no, because

it's not a Chinese thing.

It's an American thing.

There was a general

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I haven't seen anything where people have trouble keeping the same story straight.

It's certainly not coming out of the Elizabeth Warren campaign right now.

No, she is consistent.

Oh, she knows her story.

She's sticking to it.

Well, except for that pregnancy thing.

I mean, she was.

Well, yeah.

Okay, she was a first-year teacher, and she's on record.

In fact, her teaching records say that she didn't have the right qualifications.

And so she had to, after her first year, she had to go back and get some extra qualifications to be able to teach the next year.

So that's what she said.

That's what the records say.

But then in this campaign, she's come out and said she was pregnant.

I don't know, with a squaw.

I'm not really sure.

But she was pregnant and

she was fired because she was visibly pregnant.

It's a huge, huge firing reason around America.

People are like, oh, I see you're visibly pregnant, therefore you're fired.

For a teacher, it's a very pretty freaking freaking figure.

It happens all the time.

All the time.

Isn't it amazing how

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Yeah, it's a central part of their argument, which is the United States sucks, and everything about it sucks, and everything about your life sucks, and you're never going to get a future sucks, and you need me to make it not suck as much.

It's still going to suck because if you elect them and they're there for a long time, they will still need to convince you it continually sucks because of somebody else.

So she is on record saying the other story.

Was she lying then or is she lying now?

Which liar is she?

It does need to be one of the two, doesn't it?

It does.

Yeah, shockingly, I have seen very little pickup from the mainstream media on such an odd claim.

Nothing to do with every single person they interact with being just like Elizabeth Warren, a white liberal that's wealthy from the suburbs.

That's, you know, everybody who is in the media is Elizabeth Warren, which is why she's getting such favorable treatment.

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